E87 - Strike 3 to Jose Altuve Riles Joe Espada, Ejected by Derek Thomas Over Later Ball Call to CWS

[@rj7411]

Great advice CCS. Thanks for letting us eavesdrop on the mic.

[@patientallison]

I want to see a stat on who the opposing team was most often in ejections. I wouldn't be surprised if its CWS since it seems a lot of teams feel embarrassed to be losing to the worst team in the league

[@Cardinals97]

2:07 clearly that announcer has never coached because an umpire telling a manager the shut up will only piss them off more

[@robg915]

That's Geoff Blum former Astro.

[@FightingTexasAggie]

Love the content and the inclusion of specific applicable rules. Subscribed

[@HarrySJohnson]

As I saw it, Altuve ducked under the pitch, making it hard to assess the top of the zone as the umpire.

[@andrewaaberg482]

Altuve? Using unscrupulous methods? Never!

[@McMorgan1312]

In the umpire's defense, Altuve himself often considers those pitches strikes and will even jump to swing at them...

[@marimbaguy715]

Does Altuve commonly get bad calls at the top of the zone the way Judge gets them at the bottom of the zone? I wouldn't be surprised, I just haven't heard it like I hear Yankees fans talking about Judge's zone all the time

[@LasagnaLover23]

Yeah both of them do but its also vice versa, Altuve gets low strikes called balls more often and Judge high strikes called balls more often than average players

[@mutantraze3681]

@@LasagnaLover23 you cant exactly go one to one with the yankees. Their calls are notorious for going their way

[@teebob21]

Lindsay, can you cover the Force Play Slide Rule/Double Play INT from Game 10 of the NCAA World Series? I was at that game but missed what happened on the play.

[@rayray4192]

R- 1 was out on a force out at second base. He performed a pop up slide 10 feet from second base, and when he popped up he was hit in the helmet with the attempted throw to first base. NCAA force play slide rule violation. Kentucky appealed but call was confirmed. No need for replay. Very obvious interference.

[@teebob21]

@@rayray4192 Oh, I don't doubt that it was obvious INT. I just look forward to Lindsay breaking it down..... especially since I was in the popcorn line when it happened and all I got to see was the single replay they put up on the big scoreboard.

[@rayray4192]

@@teebob21 wish I was there. I drove 80 MPH across Nebraska only to arrive at the 7th inning of game 3 of the championship series. We did make Cooperstown and Fenway on that trip.

[@James-py6kf]

He obviously didn’t mean to literally say shut up

[@LordEd21-21]

She is very anti Astros anything.

[@practicalparenting]

What’s the problem, Derek Thomas was a collegiate .400 plus hitter, he knows the strike zone inside and out. Was drafted in the first round but decided he would be more useful striking out all stars on bad calls!

[@SLC-Smudge42]

Ahhh yes. The ol “umpire should just own that they got the call wrong and everything would be fine” nonsense. They wouldn’t have called it if they thought they weren’t right. It’s tough, I know.

[@missamo80]

0:23 "Me too!" 😂

[@MaxwellSchoenstein]

This was not the channel I expected to find such a trans icon on, but these things pop up in strange places!

[@robg915]

Geoff Blum wasn't being literal when he said "shut up".

[@Rowgue51]

Players and managers really need to learn to pick their battles more judiciously. If it's a clearly blown call in a key situation that has the potential to be the turning point for the entire game, it's understandable to get really irate. If it's the late innings and there have been a ton of horrible ball/strike calls the entire game and the latest such call results in a strikeout in a critical situation, it's understandable to lose your cool there as well. When it's an isolated ball/strike call that has no meaningful impact on the game. That isn't the time.

[@rayray4192]

It’s never understandable to become irate. It’s a game.

[@ronpeacock9939]

I am so sick of hearing how umpires have too thin a skin.. back in the Era when I played the game in the 80's and early 90's... NOBODY would said anything about this.. maybe Jose mumbles that he disagrees but that's it... it's really the PLAYERS AND COACHES that are too thin skinned.. they are the IDIOTS who think that they are above Rule 8.02... Maybe if the idiots stop thinking they are better than the umps they might stick around... just let it go already.. when the Challenge system is in place you will have something to argue.. until then.. ARGUING = YOU ARE IN THE WRONG...

[@DJTexan]

You’re wrong. I umpired that era and we were less sensitive. It was taboo to eject someone from dugout.

[@ronpeacock9939]

@@DJTexan Not where I'm from it wasn't... it was taboo to open your mouth very much.... OMG.. opening your mouth in the dugout was a good way to watch the game from your coach.. forget the guys in blue...

[@DJTexan]

@@ronpeacock9939 That’s different. The only complaining in youth is from stands. I was referring to high school level and up in the 90s.

[@bcdm999]

0:20 me three! 💙💗💟💗💙

[@CoachOlsson]

weird but honest request: can you play the whole pitch on meaningful pitches instead of starting the clip when the pitcher is releasing the ball?

[@caras2004]

Another theme this year Don't argue with umpires when playing the Chicago White Sox

[@prsguitars42]

I'm certain altuve and all the many other "short ball players" know how to use their height to their advantage by stooping low and making strikes look like balls.....which looks like what altuve did here. Nice trick, altuve!!!

[@andrewaaberg482]

You should see what he can do with a personal massager.

[@prsguitars42]

@@andrewaaberg482 Hmmm!!!...good point!!!

[@aaronsanchez7884]

@@andrewaaberg482 sounds like you have the experience with personal massagers bud u must be short and know how to pull of tricks with them 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@edibleapeman]

How about instead of "shut up" ups say, "I heard you, I love you, no more!"

[@criticiz3]

As soon as you see it’s Astros you know who CCS is siding with 🤣

[@andrewaaberg482]

CCS tends to side with whoever was correct. MY preferences definitely skew away from cheaters though. For sure. Astros, Red Sox, Astros. I'm not a fan of the Dodgers either but I dunno if they cheated. Oh yea, and the Astros, they're cheaters too.

[@criticiz3]

@@andrewaaberg482 name a team whose never cheated?

[@andrewaaberg482]

@@criticiz3 Name a team who cheated into a World Series win and acted like it didn't matter. Astros. Name the most recent cheaters who got caught in an organization-wide scheme. I'll go again, Astros. I won't pretend no other team has cheated. I will say no other team has been as coordinated in their efforts to steal a championship, and no other team was as successful at cheating. Since they're fresh and accomplished cheaters, Astros get the love. Sorry you chose a shitshow to root for but that's on you buddy, coulda swapped teams when they got caught cheatin but here ya are simpin.

[@criticiz3]

@@andrewaaberg482 trying to speak for everyone with 2 subscribers is pretty sad too

[@andrewaaberg482]

@@criticiz3 lmao almost as sad as looking at someone's profile tryin to get ammo when you have no real argument 🤣

[@roymauler]

Awful balls and strikes calls. Embarrassing.

[@garygemmell3488]

As far as I'm concerned, he deserved it for being a cheater.

[@HipsterDoofus100]

It’s so funny watching a blatant cheater cry and whine.

[@andrewaaberg482]

Altuve tears ain't the cure for cancer, but dammit they're sure sweet.

[@DJTexan]

Umpire cares more about what’s in the unofficial manual to eject someone but not the actual rulebook on the definition of strikes.

[@mbdg6810]

You can’t get every batter’s strike zone right every time. And umps get 95% on their scorecards on average.

[@DJTexan]

@@mbdg6810 True but still shouldn’t have been ejection. All it shows is you know you’re wrong and you can’t handle the bench flack.

[@mptr1783]

@@DJTexan or MLB will give the umpire shit for not ejecting when its their job to do so

[@DJTexan]

⁠​⁠@@mptr1783 MLB never gives umpires flack. If they did then they’d be punished for bad calls like this.

[@andrewreid895]

Please tell us how you propose Umpires should be punished for missing balls & strikes?

[@mptr1783]

Altuves short, and he ducks as well........and he plays for the Astros..........nobody cares

[@mph7282]

You obviously care.

[@chrislanemann9143]

Seems like quality of umpiring is garbage. Even with Angel Hernandez being gone. Sad

[@brianmullaney6237]

"I heard you" (1 sec later) "stop" (1 sec later) tossed. Note the optimism by the announcer, thinking that these guys would actually admit they were wrong.

[@teebob21]

Ignore, Acknowledge, Warn, Eject. "I heard you" is the Acknowledgement. "Stop" is the first warning. "No more" is the second warning. "Get outta here" is the ejection. Textbook, and perfectly managed per the manuals.

[@brianmullaney6237]

@@teebob21 Pity that the ejection was the only "textbook" thing, since the strike zone wasn't.

[@Saltcracker007]

I wouldn’t care if every call went against the Astros😂 they are still cheaters in my eyes

[@andrewaaberg482]

That's because your eyes work, my friend.

[@conrad4667]

Cheatin’ Astros. Who cares?

[@bsdsooner]

These umps are horrible and honestly getting worse. We need to implement automatic zones immediately. Umps are ruining this game.

[@teebob21]

Getting worse???? Umpires are calling balls and strikes more perfectly than ever before. Ten years ago, the league's best umpire called his plate games at a 91% accuracy. In the modern game, that's a full percentage point below the worst umpire in the bigs. Median accuracy is now nearly 95%. They aren't worse than ever; they are better than ever. But.....I suppose you expect umpires to start out perfect and improve from there.

[@mptr1783]

can't wait.........then we'll get to see how many hitters really can't hit

[@DDAUmps]

@@teebob21 They’re statistically better, but they’re more sensitive. The reason why we were more tolerated in past was because we wouldn’t eject as fast. When the umpires started getting more sensitive but still missing calls then people started calling for automatic strikes.

[@teebob21]

@@DDAUmps Ah, the "sensitive" argument. I see. Tell you what: I'll acknowledge being sensitive as soon as you find me a player that can hit 4 out of 10 times without crying that his umpire missed 1 out of 20 pitches. We aren't more sensitive. We're trained to put up with less bullshit from players who expect to be catered to.

[@DDAUmps]

@@teebob21 Many players do. If all the players were sensitive as you say then we would have 500 ejections. It’s the umpires being more sensitive. We didn’t have this many ejections 30 years ago. It was unheard of and unprofessional to eject someone from dugout. Also, we didn’t have the unions and the umpire manuals that are seemingly above what the rulebook says.

[@jasluler]

Who is this lady talking?

[@randolphhudson8645]

Lidsay... shutup

[@andrewaaberg482]

Asstros got somebody up in their feels