EA SPORTS™ WRC | Second impression of a DiRT Rally 2.0 fan (2024 Q3)

[@Nockspielt]

The game is great right now, and costs only 6,99 bucks on the ps 5 store. Ive bough the game earlier on pc also. Really good game in this state.

[@NecroPolo]

After a rough start it got into the shape. It is a decent rally game framework by now. It's a pity for the EA Anticheat that can potentially F up the OS. It hasn't happened so far, for the full picture :)

[@kraakosambition465]

I think the game is great right now, really having fun when playing it.

[@NPlay64]

Yep a lot happened since even this video when things already became improved / fixed a lot. Also there is the WRC24 season expansion with new locations and some new cars. Apart from the way the anti-cheat system became implemented locking out Linux players and the fact that it looks inferior to DR2.0 among others, considering driving experience there is no complaints on my side.

[@rodriguezkev]

When franchises change game engines it usually means a step back in performance and visuals for the first game. Hopefully the next one will be better.

[@NPlay64]

I hope so. I consider EA-WRC a transition game, too. Both EA-Coddies merge and replacing EGO engine. I have much respect for EGO, it worked so well for racing games. Maybe developing it to the newest gen would have been burn more resources than using an updated engine. Unreal 4 has its merits but I think both ACC and EA-WRC feel a step back compared to AC and DiRT Rally 2.0.

[@rodriguezkev]

@@NPlay64 It's good for us PCVR enthusiasts when developers turn to Unreal Engine. If they stop supporting VR the chances are they will work with UEVR Injector lol.

[@NPlay64]

@@rodriguezkev Sure, we on PC have that escape route.

[@jamesleegte]

I enjoy being able to play both Dirt Rally 2.0 and EA WRC! EA WRC has by far the better FFB and steering feel! Dirt Rally 2.0 has by far better visuals and performance! Both games have strengths and weaknesses, both are very enjoyable and both have really annoying quirks like FFB and physics on tarmac. It’s so bad that I just don’t use the tarmac stages in either of the games. I only play racing sims in VR and I have a high end PC and EA WRC doesn’t look good, but the details coming through my DD2 are a lot more satisfying than DR2.0. It’s a shame both games come with compromises, but overall both games are awesome!

[@NPlay64]

It is a pretty objective / positive view I think. I guess it's always pros / cons and making peace with the actual game. I share your view and try to find the positive sides. Considering tarmac these two are nowhere compared to AC for instance. But overall a hell of a rally driving experience, both of them.

[@faqugang4527]

same, i get to enjoy it in 30 fps!! But i still like it

[@NPlay64]

@@faqugang4527 I think consistent 30FPS is still on the enjoyable side and only professional E-sports guys playing competitive shooters need more than 60FPS in the practice. To be honest I'm buffled when an average Joe complains like, "Damn, I can't be competitive in Asetto Corsa Competitione because it runs only @144FPS / 4K with 100FPS LOW in the highest resolution, how unplayable". Wow, I have 3 club championship titles in DR2.0 @60FPS 1080p in mid resolution and got to top200 during the official 2021 DR2.0 season, maybe something is wrong with me...

[@faqugang4527]

@@NPlay64 yes absolutely, ofc I d rather have a hundred (as a 144hz user), but like in a racing game it doesn't matter as much

[@NPlay64]

@@faqugang4527 Yes it is all up to your personal preference, smoother FPS and nicer resolution certainly doesn't hurt but along with actual price of the sim gear, the FPS and resolution doesn't translate into better stage times :) Skill does. During the DR2.0 championships I got in contact with some of my most fav rivals (great guys, knowing them a littlebit made racing more fun) and I had to realise that time after time I got beaten by guys running the game on a potato or using the keyboard, a gamepad or a pre-historic non-FFB wheel :)

[@zzysk2]

I love this game, but I would have liked it to be released this year as EA Sports WRC 25, optimized with the new game engine.

[@NPlay64]

It makes sense and I would not be surprised much if it happened later this year, just like in the case of so many sports games under EA umbrella. I must also add that I tend to imagine that for example an annual FIFA game that is basically asset update with some minor changes is maybe less labour intensive than a proper rally sim. But what do I know, I've never worked on a game title like this or for a massive game dev.

[@simonoregan4744]

Yes lets turn it into another cash cow like the F1 series They didn't even lube that dildo.

[@vidaestoica-esp]

I totally agre but they don't that!!!

[@ajrichar0]

I hadn't played EA WRC since February this year. I just fell out of love with it and became engrossed in Gran Turismo 7 and Assetto Corsa on the PC. I loaded up EA WRC yesterday for the first time, saw there was 9Gb of updates, and then gave it a go. I had so much fun and thoroughly enjoyed it. It feels *improved* in tiny ways everywhere. Still a tiny bit of screen tearing (I'm on PS5) but the feedback felt better, the traction on rear wheel drive cars is slightly improved, and I just felt more comfortable overall. I'm going to get back into the game again. And your video was suggested to me the next day, so my improved experience has aligned with yours. 👍

[@NPlay64]

I'm happy that you experienced the same blast as me. A couple of months ago during my first video it felt like riding a dead horse. Racing on a flat mirror. I just wanted to check the changes and - BANG - it started to give a detailed and fun experience. I did not suspect that, at all. If only the damn anti-cheat system worked on Linux / Steam Deck. But as long as I have my PC / FFB rig, I'm ready to go.

[@Arth16V]

​​@@NPlay64I bought the game yesterday, and i gotta say, i wasnt expecting much, as i already know how EA has been lately. Well, i fcking love the game, as i said to a friend, i dont think im playing RBR in a long time, the physics, the VR, everything feels amazing, i was so surprised. I always enjoyed KT WRC games, but compared to WRCG, this is 1000 times better in almost everything.

[@NPlay64]

@@Arth16V It!s nice to hear that. I think the only objective way to judge games is to have both the positive and negative views of it then the customer can decide if positives are worth it or negatives are dealbreakers. Negativity, drama, nagging, toxic reviews are much more aggressive so they are in the forefront. But honestly, during the decades of me being a gamer, so many "ugly ducklings" with catastrophic negative push proved to be great to me. X-COM Apocalypse for instance. Everyone said how terrible it was. Well, I for me it's one of the best turn-based strategies ever with a super flexible flow, you can destroy the complete scenery if you wish. GT Legends, called unplayable because it was ugly AF. Well, one of the best FFB sims back in the days. Or RBR you mentioned! Back in the days every uppity ass hated it as it was hard. What a sim legend have it become? Dead Space 3, Mass Effect 3 + Andromeda, Fallout 4 and so on so on forth, a long list of games that accumulated so much hate but in the practice were fine to me. There are also negative personal experiences. Everyone was raving about Star Wars Force Unleashed. Well it was one of the most annoying games I've ever played. Still, not a waste of money as at the end of the day, just like EA-WRC, they costed about the price of a single dinner or a movie ticket, bought on a sale.

[@Arth16V]

@@NPlay64 Now that the new Rally Mode has finally come out in Assetto Corsa (CSP latest update) Where we finally have pace notes (generated by AI for any track, which is actually amazing) and new physics for gravel, i wonder if it will actually finally beat RBR.

[@NPlay64]

@@Arth16V It is a potential kingslayer as in my humble opinion, AC has the best car physics ever implemented in a game.

[@Yurgen_S]

Bought it before it launched, didn't get the new cars and stages from the last update - and they promised they wouldn't lock cars and tracks behind paid dlcs. EA at its finest

[@NPlay64]

If no else, at least they are predictable :)

[@matthewratcliffe1953]

It's a decent game now

[@NPlay64]

I agree and as far as news tell they have a long-term plan to make it better. I'm still rather a DiRT Rally 2.0 / RBR / BeamNG sort of guy when it comes to rallying but I completely admit that all the dealbreaker issues gone to me by now and I've had a lot of fun with EA WRC lately. So instead of compaining about stuff that is to be improved or moaning that awwww the old days with DR were better I'm just happy that I can have great time in so many fun sims today.

[@Wajang1]

Its very cheap on ps5 now, it might not be great, but for the price 16 euro, cant complain.

[@NPlay64]

I bought my copy during some massive sale, too. I got additional -20% off as an owner of DR2.0 so yep I totally agree, such a sim that makes sense for such a price is a good value.

[@bearsjunky23hof88]

really happy you can finally play the game

[@NPlay64]

Thanks mate. As a game / rally sim I think I like how it feels now. If only this anti-cheat system worked better and without blocking Linux.

[@GamersGettingPlayed]

This is the fifth video I've seen WRC but there's more than one WRC game I'm confused these videos are all recent what's going on

[@NPlay64]

Folks still play previously WRC released games to date, sometimes comparing them. As time passed, WRC game licences changed owners (reverse time order): EA SPORTS™ WRC = 2023, created by Codemasters under EA flag WRC Generations = 2022, made by Kylotonn under Nacon flag WRC 5-10 = 2015-2021, also by Kylotonn / Nacon WRC 1-3 = 2010-2012 made by Milestone / Big Ben, Nacon, Square Enix All companies are race game specialists. For the moment Codemasters are eligible to make WRC and F1 games but has a fine pedigree as they ran the complete DiRT series. Milestone has motoGP, MXGP, Ride series and Hot Wheels Unleashed. Kylotonn had WRC and Isle of Man TT for a long time that licences changed owners, now they worked on the recent Test Drive Unlimited.

[@sbp6326]

Someone know how it is on xbsx? There are fps drops and tearing? Thank to all that will help me

[@NPlay64]

Unfortunately I have no console. All I know that on PC it runs rather okay now'days.

[@xxkyroxx6664]

i play wrc on xbox series s def get some screen tearing and drops in frames through some stages. but it hasn’t turned me away from the game and that kinda stuff bothers me so it’s not game altering

[@NPlay64]

@@xxkyroxx6664 Thanks for the info! Because of the nature of this video I receive some questions about the console versions here and since I play it on PC, well, aboout console experience I can tell what folks tell about it. I'll refer to your experience when someone asks about it next time.

[@solfir4137]

I saw all the people saying that the game was good now so I bought it a week ago but I ended up really disappointed to be honest. There’s definitely more content than DR2.0 and I can’t deny it but it just feels really low quality - bad graphics, way worse co-driver and I’d say even the stages are pretty boring - just one completely flat and wide road with no real danger like objects on the sides, off-camber corners, ditches etc. I gave it about 5 hours before I got fed up with the co-driver skipping important information and then I went back to DR2.0 which still feels so much better.

[@NPlay64]

Interesting point that I can agree. Now that you're saying, at places I could feel that the EA-WRC co-driver wasn't at the top of the game all the time, too. DR2.0 has many mistakes in the pace notes indeed but overall it is much more consistent so you can blindly dive into sections following the instructions 98% of the time. I think they still try to improve EA-WRC and I have no doubt that in time it will become the most popular rally game by the number of players but it has so many fundamental flaws that it won't be the best one. BeamNG beats all of them considering physics and it will include a rally mode in the future. DR series, well, photo-realistic and is an established system, no need introduction. I haven't played all older Kylotonn WRCs but up to 10 they are pretty good IMO. And don't even let me start on RBR-RSF mod that is a complete, hardcore, deep rally experience.

[@solfir4137]

@@NPlay64 The best they can do to improve the co-driver IMO would be letting us do our own custom pacenotes, seeing as they are 100% spliced together instead of recorded in one shot like DR2.0. The game can no doubt be good if codies stick to it, but damn I miss the immersion and sense of speed/danger.

[@NPlay64]

@@solfir4137 Custom pace notes would be quite a feat for sure. I may be wrong but maybe there is a mod for RBR that does that. Also I may be wrong as I did not work on game audio only game music as a sound guy but I think it's not one-shot as audio clips go, the dynamic way the tech works behind allow that notes are spliced already. I think it is how It can be implemented efficiently. About immersion / speed, let me recommend something that you may enjoy if car sims became a little sleepy for you (as for me, too). I had TT-Isle of Man 1 and 2 for a long time in my library, I just haven't tried it to the depth. Okay, it is crazy, you crash every corner, works weird with a gamepad, whatever. Early last summer, partly because EA-WRC was lacking, I checked other neglected sims in the library like Seb Loev EVO that I enjoyed too. I tried new settings of the bike sim and - blasphemy! - instead of a game pad I could configure it on my sim wheel in TT-IoM2. I just had to set minimal steering angle 140 degrees or so. Well, I slowly started to get on. It has a long learning curve but it gave an incredible sense of speed and immersion at the end of the day. Quite unique experience I think among sims, just out of the sole fact that no other form of racing allows such high speeds around such a raw road track.

[@jasoncarmichael4540]

I had trouble understanding the card system , and which race was next

[@NPlay64]

It's a bit similar to the concept of the first Colin McRae DiRT trianlge system or the class unlock system of Sebastian Loeb Rally but both are better done I think. I must agree with you after all, it is a sort of puzzling at first, you can easily miss out important steps in the calendar.

[@dauntae24]

NO PROPER TRIPLE SCREEN SUPPORT 😂

[@NPlay64]

Now that you're saying, I could not get a dual mon setup work :D

[@marcusn254]

Played the demo a couple of months ago. Saw the game on sale recently, and decided to try the demo again before buying. After installing the update, the game blue screened my computer everytime I tried to start the game. Tried maybe ten times with different changes, but nothing worked. The problem is definitely related to the recent updates. It worked before, and no other game does this.

[@NPlay64]

Sorry to hear that. A lot of crash reports are around like yours. Also Linux users are completely cut off. It's a pity as the game itself got patched up quite well I think.

[@BloomWCLightningMcQueenChevy95]

you do reviews on this game cool

[@NPlay64]

Yep it's a pretty fine rally sim. It had a rough start as a game but I think it is gunning for becoming one of the the prime rally sims just like DR2.0 or RBR and WRC series as honorable mentions.

[@BloomWCLightningMcQueenChevy95]

@@NPlay64 indeed

[@BloomWCLightningMcQueenChevy95]

@@NPlay64 So when is the review on 4x4 Jam uploaded

[@NPlay64]

@@BloomWCLightningMcQueenChevy95 Most likely it will not happen. We supported 3 songs to Project: Torque and we agreed that they can carry them to other games if needed and that was what happened. Personally I've never played / owned 4x4 Jam. I played the original P:T around 2008 and I think have it in my Steam library but as I've said I'm into different games now'days, also what you can see appearing on this channel were made 4-5 months (or sometimes longer) prior to the release as I'm on tour, mixing albums, working on film and so on. Only the responses are real-time. Considering Invictus Games I think I also have a box version of an another Invictus racer called Cross Rally Championship or CRC somewhere. It is about 20 years old perhaps and is more towards simulation, not as arcadey like P:T but I haven't checked it since 2007 or so. I don't even know if it starts on W10 as it was an XP game I guess.

[@BloomWCLightningMcQueenChevy95]

@@NPlay64 But I thought you we're going to do a review on it

[@ianfan1420]

I really wanted to like this game but EA just does their best to prevent that. Optimization is still non-existent and for me to get a consistent 60 FPS, I have to make the game look like something from 2010 and even then, the texture pop-in and stutters are still there. I have a Ryzen 5 2600 CPU + RX 5600 XT GPU, not the newest hardware out there but it has no problems with newer titles on high settings 1080p like Baldur's Gate 3, Metro Exodus etc. But here comes EA SPORTS WRC with graphics from the 2010s and system requirements of the 2030s. The kernel anti-cheat is just the final nail in the coffin of this pile of garbage, not only did it screw over Linux and Steamdeck users, it reportedly made the game less stable even on Windows machines. I may sound really angry, but really I'm just incredibly sad. I'm sad that the sequel to one of my favorite franchises is just a terrible cash grab. I'm sad that I still have to turn to abandonware like the DIRT Rally games and RBR to have a decent rally sim experience. I'm sad I spent money on this.

[@NPlay64]

"It's got EA'd" as my friend Chris would say. Although I'm somewhat less sad than you as it seems to work fine on my machine and the early insane frame drops disappeared (R53600 + RX570) as well as my FFB issues so it's enjoyable - but I'm pretty much aware of what's happening with so many other players and it's sad to see it. I find the no Linux - no Steam Deck issue after working there for almost a year especially way off the chart.

[@ana303_]

EA Anticheat disconnects my internet and ive to reconnect my internet lol.

[@NPlay64]

This anticheat system is definitely a low-point of this game. It can cause a lot of issues and as my data security specialist friends said, don't install the game on a computer with sensitive data. Promising...

[@BloomWCLightningMcQueenChevy95]

Have you heard of Monster Truck Destruction it’s a game on app store

[@steveambrose-y8q]

for me the VR stopped working when the introduced anti cheat , as i only play in VR this now seems a total waste of money and no sign of it being fixed never mind how invasive it is .

[@NPlay64]

I'm sad to hear that. As I've said in the video, it seemed to cause some strange things in my OS too but after a W10 update it seemed to disappear so I guess I'll never know if it was the 3rd party kernel-level cheat mod or not. I must add that since I threw up in BeamNG.drive my Oculus is lent to a friend and he is sort of lost in HL:Alyx so I haven't tested the VR mode. But anyway, the anti-cheat system should not have been introduced to this game this way so many months after the release, potentially crippling or disabling the game. It's a pity as I honestly like the way it feels.

[@yannwymann8796]

Vr still "works" for me but the visual are so bad and performance so bad that I stay with Dirt 2 0 and AMS2 . Have a 3080 and it s enough for the dozens of other VR game I have. Even the flat to VR mods work better than WRC VR implementation...

[@NPlay64]

@@yannwymann8796 Wow. A 3080 should easlily shred a game like EA-WRC through fluent 100FPS at least. To be honest I haven't tried VR since I threw up after a BeamNG.drive run and lent my Oculus to a fellow to play LH Alyx but anyway it's sad to hear that VR in EA-WRC doesn't work like it should.

[@socks2441]

the vr was so bad it wasnt really worth playing anyway. so as a vr only racer i just play dirt rally 2.0 still.

[@NPlay64]

@@socks2441 Again, I haven't tested VR mode but I played DR2.0 that way and I can understand, it's still a blast. I think DR2.0 (actually 1.0, too) will age pretty well as apart from better VR as you guys report, I think considering graphics DR2.0 mops the floor up with EA-WRC. I like the physics in both of them but DR2.0 is still my most fav rally sim.

[@viunetwork5142]

Wow. Looking at the graphics I prefer Richard Burns Rally - I really did not expect such a comic style. It looks like Fortnite.

[@NPlay64]

I agree, it is sort of underwhelming. The other day I dusted off Seb Loeb EVO Rally that was criticised quite harshly for its inferior graphics to Dirt Rally. Well, after EA-WRC it was sort of refreshing. Apart from sound that's not too hot indeed, stage elevation dynamics, road surfaces and a plethora of small things that just make it feel better to drive. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy EA-WRC, it is a decent rally game and I think it is in an okay shape by now. There just have been better examples of a rally sim before.

[@vidaestoica-esp]

All the examples that you exposed are magnific but the really problem here is: EA Never take in consideration the feeeback of the true gamers, same in FIFA series, F1, etc. Im full pesimist with this game also has UE4 is so problematic. The game is ugly for: 1. Rain (looks like milk and not water) 2. Wipers not working in rain, dont clean the rain. 3. Third person camera, cars don't get dirty of mud, snow like dirt rally 2.0, or other games. For example colin mcrae 1 of psx1 has it. 4. Stages has more details and feels more alive in WRCG for me. 5. Games modes are bad, WRCG has better career mode and also a fantastic co-driver mod 6. In general looks like a PS3 GAME graphically, blurry and awful vegetation. 7. Physics for me is too glue in TARMAC and others. 8. Anticheat always in second process, even you don't play the game. I don't like security vulnerability, I don't trust in EA company, also disapppointed with this Anticheat you can't install reshade, use third parties program like sim hub... 🎉❤ I hate/"love"this game because all the predecesors looks and are feels better in all the terms. "Love" cause has the best selection of legendary cars (Less Toyota's cars)😅 For me: DIRT RALLY 2.0 - 9/10 WRCG - 8,5/10 EA WRC 24 - 5,5/10 (In 2025 still in a beta) Excuse my english is regular 😅

[@NPlay64]

I'm not a native English speaker so don't worry about it, we can communicate and that's it :) Many good points here as you say, many I did not consider. I can agree. Great list of fav rally games, BTW. Have you tried BeamNG or RBR? I think you would like them. Well, EA was responsible to create and also kill two games, pretty high on my favourites list: Mass Effect and Dead Space, among others. Okay they live on as remakes but for example there is no hope for Dead Space 4, as for now. I hope ME4 won't be fucked up much. I agree, EA is not an enthusiasts's fav choice but on the other hand it is a hardcore business group. Every single of those regardless of the field of activity keep on making decisions that piss off and suppress users. I could cite dosens of examples from audio/video production world, too. It sucks and it will never change, they are profit oriented and not user oriented. That is a core problem of the mechanics of our world in general. If monopolies have much, they will want more, even if it means a soft-robbing of their buyers. Subscription-based business models and microtransactions are all about that, just two examples out of the thousands. There are so many warnings about that this way has no end, from Aldous Huxley's Brave New World to William Gibson's Neuromancer to (as for gaming) CP 2077 or Horizon: Zero Dawn. Oh, and the lovely EA Anticheat... A digital security specialist friend of mine recommended that I don't install it on a computer that has soft confidental data like pre-released albums (I'm a sound engineer/producer), videos, development plans, company/business/personal details. Not directly because of the kernel-level fuckup, it just leaves a tiny door open. Thanks EA

[@vidaestoica-esp]

@NPlay64 absolutely, EA has good studios like Bioware and others and sometimes they do a good product for the mainstream audency. I hate his politics, last decade they never change it despite the critics fandom. I like football games, I hate microtrasactions and not fair play (hándicap) in FIFA / FC series, also in NFL and others Game. Battlefield also bad to worse... I LOVE rallying games, I my opinion the license would be to Codemasters without EA. Or maybe KT Racing, last WRC Generations in my opinion was great point in comparassion. EA right now is focussing create and destroy games with Bugs idk what is the reason for it. I saw with my eyes let so many games with a poor quality product like FIFAs with bug and never fixed, also F1 games, etc. Anyways, I have the Game in my library, I wish the Game Will be improve despite my pessimist vision that I have with this company after last decade buying their games, maybe this is my last one 😅 And yes I have both games that you said me, really good games, LOVE the simulation right here 😉💯

[@vidaestoica-esp]

@NPlay64 with their Anti-cheat maybe there are mining data of us PC, Who knows? 🤷👽. The vulnerability security is real with that... Is alike to the Valorant anti-cheat also use the kernel from the S.O. Curious data and one point is when you unistall the game fully, the anti-cheat still in your PC and works 24/7...

[@NPlay64]

@@vidaestoica-esp Sure mate, after uninstalling these games, I got no message of the kernel restored to original so I think: one security door is left open and it is very unpleasant, can be dangerous. This system is a very stupid and offensive way of blocking cheaters. Codemasters free of EA again, would be great but it will not happen sadly. They were acquired for more profit and no more quality. Honestly, I was very surprised when the news came that Codies were bought by EA. I believed, Codemasters has been around since the '80s and making great racing games plus they've been having F1 licence for ages, they seemed to be independent and very strong. DiRT Rally 2.0 is the best example of a love letter for rallying (borrowed line) and a solid product with its own engine. Now: EA-WRC, Unreal Engine, under EA that has done an ample of unpleasant things from players point of view... I don't know what should I suspect. I just hope that Codemasters won't end up dissolved like Visceral (Dead Space devs) and will be able to develop quality releases like DR, even under EA's wing. Until that, fortunately as you said, we have great sims to race :)

[@vidaestoica-esp]

@NPlay64 Amen, good points

[@makavelisreturn86]

I have held off buying this game on pc because of all the issues I have seen in reviews, looks like I might give it a go just a bit concerned about graphical issues. Does it still have loads of pop in with textures and objects?

[@NPlay64]

Indeed it has. You can see in the video. In certain spots the scenery is displayed step-by-step like Last Ninja from C64. In the GFX department I guess older WRC titles back to 9 and DiRT Rally 2.0 mops up the floor with EA-WRC. What became fixed (for my wheel at least) is the FFB / communication of physics engine between the controller and the wheel. Honestly, it feels fun to drive by now, cars feel great like they should have been around the start. If you want a somewhat detailed rally driving / physics, it seems to deliver. Considering the game itself, for me at least, it's been patched up enough to be an enjoyable rally title. In my opinion good level design is among the merits. Maybe it's just me but stages are great and plentiful. I'm okay with car selection / feel, too. Career mode is better in later WRC titles but it is still fine here. I also enjoy building / developing my own car quite much.

[@makavelisreturn86]

​@NPlay64 Thanks for your reply Im going to give it a go and hope the pop in and stuttering isn't too much of an issue for me 👍

[@NPlay64]

@@makavelisreturn86 Fingers crossed mate 🤞

[@makavelisreturn86]

@NPlay64 so I got it and Been playing it for the past 2 days and I have minimal issues it's actually running really well on my PC! 4k ultra no upscaling arround 110 FPS (except shadows, reflections and particals on High) I don't get any stuttering think it happened literally 1 time only thing I do get is a bit of texture pop in and objects popping in and out that is a bit annoying but no way as bad as I thought it would be and not sure if there is any solution other than a game update as opposed to any settings. Love the game actually just wish I could fix the text popping and Assets randomly loading in. 👍

[@NPlay64]

@@makavelisreturn86 Great to hear that mate (y) If you are not involved either in kernel-level cheat protection or GFX issues you're supposed to have a lot of fun. As far as comments and feedback showed to me, this sim is a sort of hit-or-miss: works fine for some guys and have dealbreaker issues for others. I have a pretty modest system (R5-3600 + RX570) and by the latest updates all the stuttering and extreme frame drops gone, I could even turn up the quality a little. Around 6 months ago it was pretty frustrating but a game is as functional as it is and not as it was, right? :)

[@bail1s939]

I am really really torn between both games. I've got too many hours in both. when EaWRC performs well and all my hardware registers with the game, the driving feel in WRC mostly the grip as compared to DR2.0, is so so so much more authentic. I felt dirt rally 2 almost forced lateral / drifting almost too often, regardless of surface when you compare it to EaWRC or Real life modern footage. I LOVE Both games, I just wish EAWRC looked and sounded like DR2.0, and the engine was better suited. ( would love hard core damage to be like RBR ) but now I'm renting and dreaming. loved this video mate. you NAILED IT.

[@NPlay64]

It's just a straight opinion of a DR2.0 fan but I'm glad that you like this video :) The sound, how I could forget. I haven't mentioned in none of the reviews, but how true. It is more visceral in DR2.0 and I think it plays a major part why I love it so much. Also, the overemphasized driftiness. Absolutely true. Maybe it's just me but any time I desire for grip, I drive AC and the like. I drive rally games for a sideways dancing car :D EA-WCR is more realistic but for me, for the danciness DR2.0 is just more fun. I can absolutely understand if someone's thing is realism, those sim fans can enjoy WRC titles more or the wonderful ruthlessness of RBR or BeamNG. Anyway it is just great that we have many options. Maybe some likes one sim, someone else the other sim but we have an ample of great sims around. It's a great time to be a sim racing fan I think. Cheers mate!

[@YoeriKurvers]

I played about 40 hours in Dirt 4, Rally and 60+ in DR 2.0. I have about 25 hours in WRC. I still really dislike it, it looks horrible and its performance lacks in many aspects. The driving itself is fine, it's fun to play but the graphical and performance side really kill this game.

[@NPlay64]

I agree. EA-WRC is a decent drive as for now after my FFB issue became solved by the patches but it looks like a movie that was shot with a cheap mobile phone. I can no report significant FPS drops. But before the updates the game was all about significant FPS drops :D

[@darkblader06]

i really other sports games adopt the WRC Seasonal expansion method.

[@NPlay64]

I agree. It is a pretty well-thought system.

[@TheMash84]

Pre order to play on early access, after few months it's taking dust. Graphic engine looks terrible even at max detail (although you can gain some sharpness and detail using Reshade and CAS and Luma sharpen). the tarmac still feels very wrong, with the cars feeling very floaty and not feeling weight transfers. And the cars rotating on a central pivot still in 2024 is a cheap wap to implement cars physics model in a video game. To be honest it was the same model on dirt rally 2, which i loved honesty, but that's a cheap way to recycle old tech and hiding it in a modern graphic engine, which managed to look terrible anyway! Such a disappointment. Force feedback though is good, quite detailed. Preferring AC mods for rally and RBR, those are great.

[@NPlay64]

Initial impression must have been shocking during early access, especially having a completely refined DR2.0 on the library. EA-WRX was in a bad shape even when I joined months after the official release. Some essential things became fixed by Q3 2024 but I agree it doesn't look pretty after all. The central pivot rotation is a very interesting and correct remark. Playing Coddie rallies since the late '90s I guess it was always like that way, since CMR. Okay there are more realistic ways considering physics but it has worked for decades for them so maybe keeping one leg in the arcade world to some degree is a tradition decision, I don't know. Have you played BeamNG.drive? I think it has a bloody amazing physics engine. If only it took itself more seriously as a racing sim. I prefer to drive it to both AC/Rally and RBR with the footnote that they are awesome sims indeed.

[@hypoman1]

Your video looks like your blacks are crushed. Are you using the correct settings? The colours seems off. Even on my PS5 they look way better.

[@NPlay64]

I think it's on default (PC). I changed things only that affect consistent FPS but that's all, no changed color grading whatsoever. Maybe I should have bought a PS5 instead :D

[@bartecki75]

Grafisk DR 2.0 better 💪🏼mud water 💦

[@NPlay64]

Agreed!

[@michaelc3977]

As if anyone with a wheel actually plays Dirt 2 while WRC is available

[@NPlay64]

:D Why would anyone with a wheel play anything else while Richard Burns Rally is available, or BeamNG.drive with a physics engine that beats them all easily? Folks have a diverse taste, gear, goals, style etc. and all of them provide differences. off: I don't think that mixing the subjective with the objective would result in a useful opinion. In the reviews I often say that it's my personal / subjective opinion only, feel free to disagree. Maybe it would be useful to put a short disclaimer about it at the beginning of the videos :D

[@michaelc3977]

@@NPlay64 Because RBR isn't available on console

[@NPlay64]

@@michaelc3977 I see., you're right. That is an unavoidable gatekeeper. I tend to forget that not everyone keeps the option to build / run a gaming PC and many use a console only. Actually a couple of years ago during the GPU price crysis, for gaming a console was the only viable / reasonable price option. If I hadn't just bought my RX570 GPU right before the stunning price jump, I'd have gone that way, too.

[@michaelc3977]

@@NPlay64 Yup, Series X is just hassle free gaming - power on and play. And as I understand it, for the money it's the best gaming experience available. And I've been an xbox user since the days of the OG XBox and Project Gotham Racing 2 where we invented the cat and mouse racing format. And around the ring, no less.

[@NPlay64]

@@michaelc3977 I'm not a console guy, all I know about is from friends who are that it has impressive speed and is very easy to use, go and play as you say, plus gamepass - great options On a side note I think I can still build a gaming PC that makes sense for much less and if someone buys games only during sale I think it can be very cheap to use, too. I'm not saying that X is not a great price-sensitive option, it is. I'm just saying that price/value matter is like a cube with more sides than six :)

[@darkblader06]

Rally Evos performance is horrible. I really wanted to play it but its full of bugs that were never fixed

[@NPlay64]

Sorry my feed did not show your comment, only in YT studio with no relevance. Do you mean Seb Loeb Rally Evo? I've heard that it's a hit-or-miss and indeed became abandoned not long after the release. In my machine (R5-3600 + RX570) it seems to work fine, so far. I sort of like it because of the physics / FFB. I think in a couple of aspects it bests DiRT Rally 1 but DR1 was just a more impressive experience overall. becoming a prime predator of the genre at the time.

[@darkblader06]

@@NPlay64 Yes thats what I meant, i keep getting stutter issues on my rig ( Ryzen 7600x + Rx6750xt )

[@NPlay64]

@@darkblader06 That's odd for sure. On the paper it eats alive my rig, should pump out I don't know 250FPS from a 2010's game. Currently my gaming machine sports W10 but Evo was made back in W7 times. when none of these new hardware / OS existed, maybe it's a hit or miss if they work fine or not. Now that you're saying my DR2.0 experience was hindered a little after switching from FX-6300 to R-3600. On this channel, 95% of my DR2.0 videos were recorded with the old rig in 2021. It wasn't the fastes machine and it produced a couple of hiccups but nothing major. It was my rig during my active sim racing days, playing online ACC, F1, RR, RF2 and DR2.0 where I was the most active. When I started to use my present Ryzen system all the FPS hiccups gone - but loading times in DR2.0 grew to 3x-4x and nothing seems to fix it...

[@Alexneroverona]

Wrc Generations its the real Wrc Game . Much much better.

[@sergeantwombat]

I think they took a step back with tarmac physics in generations imo, still prefer wrc over ea's games

[@NPlay64]

Personally I'd find hard to recommend one vs the other. The pros of WRC-GEN is the career system that is one of the bests of its kind IMO and for sure it is a beast on tarmac. Still it was pretty unstable on my system so I prefer the more fluent and stable WRC10. As for EA-WRC, the game feels nice and runs stable after all the updates but it has the late-attached anti-cheat system that can make weird things. And yes, tarmac. KT WRCs feel better there. Still, if I compare these rally games to the likes of AC or BeamNG.drive, tarmac behavior of one rally sim vs the other starts to lose it in my humble opinion. Okay these totally lack the framework but the physics... Insane :)

[@nodekaspa8376]

WRCG' car is hovering everywhere when I play with controller. It's horrible experience. But EA WRC feels connected with ground

[@NPlay64]

@@nodekaspa8376 Now you're saying, a couple of months ago when my FFB wheel did not work well with EA-WRC I did some test runs with a controller and I was surprised how well it worked. I have a Nacon rumble pad and you could feel bumps, grip and so on. That's why it's a pity that Linux / Steam Deck users got locked out. The Steam Deck has a pretty smooth controller surface. I have a couple of friends who played EA-WRC on a deck. Well, not anymore.

[@Alexneroverona]

@@nodekaspa8376 EA its an arcade rally game thats why

[@jintei8524]

Visuals look inferior to codies' titles from ps3 tbh, unreal will never compare to ego

[@NPlay64]

Perhaps modding EGO (last version 2015-16 I guess) to modern systems would have been much more tedious than using a pre-existing one that is tailored to 2020+. I miss it as it was designed for racing, despite that some other types of games used it as well. I can remember how stunned I was playing GRID the first time. The game was not for me but the way it worked and looked - wow. So it's a pity that it was put on ice.

[@jintei8524]

@@NPlay64 i did also get astonished by how gorgeous grid looked back in the day since it was the first racing game i've ever played on pc. It really has baffled me how good a game could look on that time, along with cmr dirt 2. Booting these two up even nowadays still makes my jaw drop, truly passionate titles

[@NPlay64]

@@jintei8524 I agree. In my humble opinion GFX started to peak around a decade ago. Of course there are packleaders considering GFX now'days too but as for an average shooter running on average machines, let's not even try to compare even the earliest Metro game to something like Suicide Squad Kills Arkham Franchise :) A lot of things became dumbed down in a way. So now that you're saying, for enjoying GFX I'd pick GRID any day against EA-WRC.

[@rodriguezkev]

I prefer the shorter stages of Dirt Rally 2. You have to focus so much as you drive that they're long enough for me lol.

[@NPlay64]

You absolutely have a point and I'm all into shorter stages, still in the reality, especially considering older rallies, this is more realistic. On a footnote: I know it's not a sim at all but I played The Crew games for the very same reason: hillclimb anywhere, also for cannonball runs, coast-to-coast. Endurance time attack challenges on a changing scenery have a very special feel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eniTg3Sop7eprZYsi=QxhC_8CWEks2uWBh

[@rodriguezkev]

@@NPlay64 Have you tried Dirt Rally 2 in VR? looks and performs great.

[@NPlay64]

@@rodriguezkev Yep it is so bloody awesome in VR but I haven't played it that way for long since I threw up in BeamNG.drive and on the same momentum the following day I lent my Oculus to a friend playing HL Alyx last year :)

[@rodriguezkev]

@@NPlay64 lol. I've finally got my VR legs and can play for hours no prob. When I first started couldn't play for more than a couple of minutes before feeling sick.

[@NPlay64]

@@rodriguezkev Yep a gradual adjustment to VR worked nicely to me in the case of DR2.0, too. I believed that I'm all set. Then I tested BeamNG flying all around on a rollercoaster rally stage. Everything was fine then motion sickness hit me like a mule very suddenly. I could not even get out the PlaySeat before I became reintroducet to my dinner. After that lending the Rift to a friend maybe was a rush decision :D He completely stuck in VR. On a footnote he really should buy a VR headset for himself after all this time. But that's just so me. I lent so many things to friends during the years: motorcycle helmets, racing wheels, guitars, computers... never seen again. Fuck that, instead of "lending" let's call it "gifting" :D

[@bartecki75]

Grafik like PS4 not new generation joke 😂

[@NPlay64]

:D DR2 eats it alive in that department. Not to mention GFX-accented titles like Forza and the like. Maybe it's just me but damn I think even some Grid games looked better back in the days. But for mechanincs at least it seems to work for me. Quite a step-up compared to the pre-parches "I'm racing on a sleeping mirror" feel :D

[@mattyb1624]

DR2.0 physics are total rubbish.

[@NPlay64]

Physics sucks. In general. Any cosmologist can tell.