EaganMatrix Eurorack by Haken Audio

[@CinematicLaboratory]

Hi All, I reported an 'issue' with my Linnstrument while driving the EaganMatrix, having unstable jittery pitch response. Roger Linn offered great support and we narrowed down the issue to ungrounded 'dirty' main power. I took an extension cable from the kitchen and it works absolutely fine on grounded mains!

[@mark35mi]

I've a linn200. No eurorack. Might I still be able to use this... and how? Seems frigging amazing.

[@CinematicLaboratory]

@@mark35mi Absolutely. In your case I'd get a Haken ContinuuMini which is around 1000 dollar/euro, hook it up with USB, install MAX, run the EaganMatrix editor and select the Linnstrument as a controller for the MINI. You'd get exactly the same sounds/experience but without the eurorack investment - and an extra performance strip. The MINI is advertised as monophonic but it also goes eight voice polyphonic over MPE.

[@LudwigKuppers]

Eagan Matrix habe ich auch im Eurorack. Mein Lieblings VCO !

[@capriciouswhitenoise5397]

I have had an Expressive E Osmose on order since 2019, and it looks like production is finally imminent. Apparently it will contain the Eaganmatrix engine; I’m pretty stoked. Now all I have to do is resist buying the Eurorack module in the meantime lol. The GAS is real!

[@CinematicLaboratory]

Osmose is absolutely gorgeous. I am trying to get a Slim Continuum. GAS is very real.

[@mark35mi]

Thank you for this. So many possibilities. Just purchased a Behringer System 55. The Eaganmatrix, oxi one, and Behringer brains... good time to be had. 😀

[@bobbfett.musiclab]

Fantastic demo. I always get GAS when visiting your channel:)

[@CinematicLaboratory]

I am so sorry!

[@garaughty]

Pure loveliness !

[@dantarradellas7351]

WOW! Amazing video. Thank you

[@JupiterRexMusic]

Read that supply chain issues are hitting Haken hard esp with getting the chips for this module (been on order for 2 years). Hopefully they can get it sorted as it sounds amazing

[@kenswanson1093]

Cine, Richard .. thanks for the conversation, about this, & all else. Cine, .. I've thought about your comment about Marbles & EaganMatrix combined .. and, yes! .. that probably would be a great 1, 2 punch. & perhaps sometime down the road .. I might have both. It does seem that Marbles is what I should be getting, for now, though. Also, .. my most recent addition of Bitbox Micro, .. can now be put to work, in a greater, more effective way, too? Thanks, guys.

[@kenswanson1093]

An afterthought .. my Marbles/Bitbox theory would be depending that the T1, T2, T3 outputs of Marbles could be fractionally triggered, either by 1/2, or by a 1/3, and so on, from it's clock. And as far as I know, .. Marbles doesn't have that feature. After all, you can't have randomness & pure fractions happen at the same, eh? .. :)

[@kenswanson1093]

Either way, .. I think I've convinced my self in getting this, (Marbles) whether Bitbox is usable with it, or not.

[@CinematicLaboratory]

Indeed, marbles provides structure and randomness, but it would have been super if it could do clock divisions. Teaming it up with a more powerful clock (e.g. Pam's new workout) could provide the best of both worlds.

[@kenswanson1093]

@@CinematicLaboratory ah sir, .. that could be the thing, Pam's & Marbles. No matter what, I do, .. I'm going to have expand my HP space, regardless. So, get a wider rack, .. at least get Marbles, .. & see what's what .. Reading the manual for Marbles, .. the rate at 12 O'clock = 120 BPM .. & that's perfect, I think. And then dividing or multiplying by 4, from 120, full left or full right on the knob twist .. I might generate some kind of a paper protractor, on CAD, and index every 10 BPM along the radius, let's say .. and stick it behind the "rate" knob, eh? I thought I read somewhere, that MI has a lockin/homein, around the 12 O'clock position, of a few degrees .. well, you know .. because, that's what people would prefer. Hopefully, .. that's true. And, .. I'm not sure .. a person does a quick little loop, or routine based off of Marbles, or Pam's for that matter .. how does that work for a sequence, (that's stacked end to end to end) that lasts several minutes, overall? Is the timing still on, then? That might be an unreasonable thing to ask. For myself, only .. dialing down to 89.32 BPM on Marbles, wouldn't matter. But, I do interface with other musicians, who can depending on an exact BPM .. so, a theory I've got is to get as close as I can, BPM-wise, on Marbles, (if I need to use it) .. knowing that there's going to some stretching or shrinking, at the end of my process, right? thanks for taking the time to visit about this, .. it's been pretty valuable, to me.

[@richardkram2457]

Note: Those "notes Jumping" on the display are just pitch tracking. They will jump. For Linnstrument you normally set pitch Bend = 96. Set CC74 and Channel Pressure, then set the number of MPE channels you want to play - normally 2-Max Polyphopny of preset +1.

[@CinematicLaboratory]

I know, that's all been set. And the Seaboard / Sensel Morph work fine, they don't 'oscillate', they move smoothly with the amount of wiggle. I contacted Roger Linn about this, hopefully he can help me out. But thanks a lot for your comment!

[@richardkram2457]

@@CinematicLaboratory Hmm. My Linnstrument works fine with the module.

[@CinematicLaboratory]

@@richardkram2457 I may have a ground loop... More testing tomorrow :)

[@richardkram2457]

@@CinematicLaboratory Good idea. Linnstrument should work fine. In fact it works best of the three if you ask me!

[@CinematicLaboratory]

@@richardkram2457 Problem solved thanks to Mr. Linn's fast reply and amazing support. My powerlines in the home are terrible. I got an extension cable from grounded mains in the kitchen and it works like a charm without any jitter. Thank you for sharing your comments, they've been a great reference.

[@arqner3493]

A editing midi thru module, would be Great!, like a Intellijel midi joystick, there is something like that?

[@anckorage]

Thanks 🙏

[@martintaylor9205]

Don’t know what’s happening Robert, I actually commented on this two days ago when you first released this episode then it disappeared, turned up again yesterday and now again today???? Still an Ace stream, fantastic info on a Dope modules Cheers Robert🇬🇧🆒🎶🎶🕸⚡️🌟🌟🌟

[@CinematicLaboratory]

I had to make changes to the video and you can't replace the existing one. I screwed up two times, this one will hopefully stay. I am only human :)

[@martintaylor9205]

@@CinematicLaboratory well Robert your a superb Human who releases so much relevant content on the Modular Format which I look forward to even if it causes GAS and you don’t have to apologise for anything Many thanks Martin🆒🎶🎶🎶🎶👍🌟🌟🌟

[@Phargoomax]

It s magic!

[@joshk2181]

I just wonder how functional it would actually be, and how tedious to find a suitable patch etc but it's exciting for a few reasons.

[@CinematicLaboratory]

I expect most people to stick to presets and not program their own sounds from scratch. The potential is huge and it's easy to navigate through categories, you can pick favorites, etc, but it's the total opposite of a bare oscillator and I don't see many people unleash its full potential. It really needs an MPE controller to do that. As a single voice with eight CV inputs it can also do a lot of good. I now have it in a separate case and I use it as a hardware synth.

[@richardkram2457]

Nice! Note "Bespoke Controls" is a term no longer used. They are called "Macro Controllers" now.

[@CinematicLaboratory]

Thanks! I was lost a bit, they started off as barrels, then bespoke controls and indeed now macro's. This is because I've been watching the EaganMatrix Programming videos starting from episode 1 :)

[@richardkram2457]

@@CinematicLaboratory I totally understand! It's changed three times.

[@kenswanson1093]

Cine, .. thanks for this. Bearing in mind, me being a Eurorack newbie .. this gadget .. is it sort of a MI Marbles, on steroids? Presets on this, .. are they available to change? Presets can be nice, .. I've a few modules, .. none with presets .. so, I've been using my camera, to "save" patch configurations. :)

[@richardkram2457]

Yes you can chance presets either through the menu system on the module or through the Editor or through Midi Messages.

[@CinematicLaboratory]

It's definitely not a Marbles, it's more like a powerful hardware synth in a eurorack module. You can switch presets on the panel, or with the Editor. The Editor also lets you create your own presets and save altered ones. It may be cool to hook it up with Marbles, though! It can send melodies, do modulation and turn it into a generative ambient machine. Marbles doesn't make sound (usually), but provides gates, melodies and modulation.

[@kenswanson1093]

Apologies .. missed the point, I see .. Eaganmatrix being more sound generator, than a CV (any kind of?) generator.

[@richardkram2457]

@@kenswanson1093 Actually, in addition to being a CV and/or MPE controlled physically modelling synth as wonderfully detailed in the video here, the module can also function as a CV-to-MPE generator as the CV input you give it to play is also converted internally into MPE midi and output the Midi ports (either TRS or USB). You can also get a uCVC Eurorack card from Evaton Technologies (single channel) or CVC from Haken Audio (4 channel but standard 19" rack mount) that will allow you to also turn the module into an MPE-to-CV generator.

[@kenswanson1093]

​@@richardkram2457 mmm, .. then, I'm still mis-speaking aren't I. Yeah, .. I just need to study this whole concept, more. Thanks for commenting. .. :)

[@markhammer643]

I'm trying to get used to one that I'm working with (work project) and the documentation is not the clearest. The 4 dots that make the horizontal "pong paddle": what do they represent? I'm also not getting a pitch change, despite providing legit CVs.

[@joshk2181]

Can it do conventional VA poly sounds

[@CinematicLaboratory]

I have no idea. I assume you mean virtual acoustics and it does not do models of a sax or violin. There are plenty of components that let you do physical modeling in the engine but it's still to deep for me. There are over 500 presets which include great strings, wind and plucks but they all sound a bit exotic. Super convincing and expressive, but like instruments we've never heard before.

[@GizzyDillespee]

Josh means virtual analog. Yes, there are standard analog style oscillators and filters. Check out the latest Osmose demo video... the blade runner patch is featured in that demo. I'll say the virtual analog stuff doesn't have "slop" or "vintage" emulations, but you do have some modulation inputs, and the onboard macros, so you can add your own driftiness.

[@CinematicLaboratory]

@@GizzyDillespee Thanks for sharing. Definitely a lot of 'analog' building blocks on board :)

[@DJ-Lazy-Lodger]

🥕

[@blacksand.]

no knobs/sliders for that price, it needs at leat 4 knobs, with 4 attenuverters for wxyz, too bad, it sounds crazy

[@CinematicLaboratory]

You forgot to mention the panel is cheap plastic and the knob comes off very easily. But I understand what you mean. The attennuverters are on the panel. Just press WXYZ or I,II,III,IV and dial the knob. Works for me!

[@blacksand.]

@@CinematicLaboratory it sounds fantastic,it reactivated my GAS :) it would be one of the best synth voice module out there if they just took a little more time to polish it, they have plenty or space on the front panel and it's thin enough for a second PCB for the knobs