Earl Erskine's Story

[@2HRTS1LOVE]

I heart "Bishop" Earl!!!! LOL, I'm becoming a groupie, I think, this man's story, his complete humbleness, the love he has for the deceived LDS people...Brother Earl, you're a rock star for Jesus, I appreciate all of your work and efforts in the Father's name, to pull the veil from the LDS eyes. I can't wait to have a good chat with you and Karla someday, either here or in heaven. God Bless Earl and Karla! Love y'all!!!!

[@Mcgrandma]

I grew up a Mormon, loved being in the church, and every time I heard bits of history that didn't make sense, I'd sweep it under the rug. It became so bumpy, I had to fling it back to see what I really believed. What toppled the pile, just as Bishop Earl said, was the Book of Abraham that Joseph translated pagan funeral writings into the Pearl of Great Price, originals found in the Metropolitan Museum, not burned up in the Chicago fire. All the other questions under that rug started me on a path to find other church history that was glossed over. I began to realize the true church is Christ not an organization. I'm 68 and have been out of the Church 25 years and am so grateful that I searched facts and wasn't just content to feel the church was true.

[@glennjohn3919]

Amen. Same rings true for me!

[@robertmcnamara5859]

You believe in scientists instead of prophets. That's your testimony of faith for the judgement day.

[@Mcgrandma]

@@robertmcnamara5859 I’m not sure what you mean that I believe in scientist. Are you a member of the church and watching these videos because you have questions Mormonism has so many errors, you are good to ask questions.

[@hlord333]

I saw this presentation live and thoroughly enjoyed it. Praise God for his moving in LDS hearts.

[@valeriegriner5644]

This is such a beautiful and powerful testimony! I love the Erskines!

[@jamesmoss7919]

Thank you for sharing your story. I am an LDS going thru a faith crisis. Going thru a mixture of emotions for a while now.

[@nerotrinity3163]

I went through the same thing, if you're still going through this I can help you! Through Christ's Grace I was saved!

[@kkdoc7864]

James Moss I hope you are doing ok. You are one of the very lucky ones that is having the veil removed from your eyes so you can see clearly.

[@glennjohn3919]

Hi James, I know this is many years later. How are you doing?

[@PascalDupont561]

James please stay close to the prophet. The Book of Mormon is true . My cousin Earl requested a priesthood blessing when he went through a heart problem and he was held but he discounts that. He should have know Jesus if he truly read , prayed and served the Savior. It is replete with Jesus the savior of the world. I know Joseph was the true Prophet of the restoration. Cling tight and hold onto the rod.

[@PascalDupont561]

Was healed not held

[@mckster56]

My favourite part is always the happy ending . I have watched this often, finding Jesus says it all

[@lee-lee2418]

Thank you Mr. Erskine - What a wonderful ministry - my heart has been refreshed and encouraged in our LORD Jesus ✝️ 🙏

[@davemitchell116]

I am so happy to be able to call Earl a friend and brother in Christ. He has been a true inspiration.

[@Shulamitefire]

Beautiful brother in Christ... Thank you so very much, Earl. Jesus is our only glory, and we exult in and rejoice that such is so.

[@marcpollacchi6113]

Bishop Earl, you are great.

[@HerdingDogRescuer]

+GhostriderPossum. This is a good example of the work of the Holy Spirit in this man's life, convicting him of the truth.

[@toniroberts1466]

HerdingDo

[@annechesley8565]

Wow, that was wonderful. Thanks Earl and Carla!

[@padundo]

The TRUTH Shall make ye Free!!! Earl is FREE! John8:32,36 John14:6

[@audreyhepburn2038]

Love this guy! I hope I have the privilege of meeting him some day! X

[@Chinaculiacan]

Thank you.. glory be to God..

[@Nathansmithphotography]

Correct! This verse disturbed me so much on my mission that I told my companion I couldn't go work. I got down on my knees and begged God for understanding. I received a very direct and powerful answer: "Keep reading!" The next 5 verses didn't help, but then I read Jacob 2:30. God increases His church through missionary work, and by "raising up seed" or by having faithful members have more children. The standard law is one wife and one wife only, but He can "command his people" when necessary.

[@Chinaculiacan]

Jesus used the same phrase “I AM” in seven declarations about Himself. In all seven, He combines I AM with tremendous metaphors which express His saving relationship toward the world. All appear in the book of John. They are: I AM the Bread of Life (John 6:35, 1, 48, 51); I AM the Light of the World (John 8:12); I AM the Door of the Sheep (John 10:7,9); I AM the Good Shepherd (John 10:11, 14); I AM the Resurrection and the Life (John 11:25); I AM the Way, the Truth and the Life

[@HelenEk7]

- "May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world." (Gal 6,14) - Christ "canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross." (Colossians 2,14) - Christ "reconciled (us) to God through the cross" (Eph 2,16) - "For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel-not with wisdom and eloquence, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power. For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God." (1 Cor 1,17-18)

[@richardmcginnis5344]

he can't leave it alone because he want's to open the eyes of the people he has loved for years and its pretty sad that you people (mormons)this guy took his life in his hands and made a decision to change now because he found truth in his life is an anti-mormon and is to be ridiculed? what is wrong with you people? this is not the way you are taught

[@richardmcginnis5344]

i would love to be the person who bought an old bible at a rummage sale and found the "missing" 116 pages he wrote first.

[@exmormonfiles]

Stop drinking the kool-aid. Not everyone leaves just because of those two reasons that is always stated but I know that makes it super easy for you dismiss everything valid that Earl has to say. Modern day prophets don't clarify but totally change what God's Word says. Maybe one day your eyes will be opened.

[@brendablue0022]

Hebrews chapter one Jesus in these last days in the Only Living Prophet that’s why He still lives

[@marmaladepie2722]

WONDERFUL! GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER...

[@rickw571]

Excellent!

[@suigeneris2663]

What a lovely speech.

[@rickw571]

If one does study mormonism...they surely will come out of the church. But to study, one needs to be ready to learn and discern truth. LDS people in general, are wonderful people. But, they are deceived. So deceived, they don't even dare to study because they fear (and have been taught) they'll lose their eternal life if they do so. They cannot question. Very sad indeed.

[@Chinaculiacan]

Acts 4:24 When they heard this, they raised their voices together in prayer to God. "Sovereign Lord," they said, "you made the heavens and the earth and the sea, and everything in them...

[@PascalDupont561]

Those that still watch this please know that until the Holy Ghost reveals to me something different I WIll still hold to the rod of the restored gospel of Jesus Christ. It is the rock cut out of the mountain without hands that will fill the whole earth and will stand forever. Where will we stand ? That is the question. And if we go where will we go. Stand faithful and be not moved. The mist of darkness will come but rest assured God will not fail you. Like Jacob be unshaken.

[@rickw571]

No, Earl is much nicer than I am. I am serious though when I say those groups you call apostate (RLDS/ FLDS) are in fact, following Joseph's teachings closer than mainstream LDS. It's true! Check it out!

[@42apostate]

Never once in my active 50+ years as an LDS member did I ever hear a talk or lesson in church that dealt with "false prophets, false Christs or false teachers", and what exactly constitutes a false prophet/christ/teacher as compared to a TRUE Prophet, TRUE Christ and TRUE teacher. I often wondered if it wasn't purposely avoided because LDS leaders didn't want members to apply those comparisons to LDS prophets, christ OR teachers--which it WOULD do--at least for the astute thinkers among them.

[@pleasantoutdoor]

I hope you have success in your business, thanks for make that very clear.

[@rickw571]

"Who are you to tell God that he cannot change things? " I didn't say He couldn't change things. He said He is unchanging (just to be clear). And I believe Him. Nathan, do you believe the Bible has been corrupted (as Joseph Smith said)? Or, do you belive Jesus when He said "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall NEVER pass away".

[@robertallison107]

Since the Book of Mormon has ALREADY been debunked, WHAT does that say about Mormonism ?

[@allenrichardson4211]

Dear BlueBell, When I had lunch with Earl, and when we began emailing, we had no contention at all. In fact, it was all warm and friendly and rather than argue, I told him I was impressed with his research and respected him for not leaving Mormonism on a whim. I did answer some of his charges, but I was careful to be tactful. I was surprised that he had no comeback, but didn't laugh or mock him for being left without words.

[@BlueBell221]

You had no contention at all? Your reply on this page says, "We exchanged emails, but he had trouble defending his views in the light of deeper and clearer evidence in favor of Mormonism. His email responses soon fizzled out and I was left wondering about his honesty and sincerity. His nice smile doesn't quite compensate for his unwillingness or inability to defend his views." When a person does not agree that there is evidence in favor of Mormonism (as you put it) there is going to be a spirit of contention. You were left, as you said, "wondering about his honesty and sincerity" and "His nice smile doesn't quite compensate for his unwillingness or inability to defend his views." hmmm, The Spirit tells me that assuming a person is not honest or sincere is likely to bring a spirit of contention to some degree or other. This is the usual likelihood of events to transpire. See? Now, do you believe that God is omniscient? Why then would God not have known that you would have a response that sounds like contention? You wrote it, but God knew where it was going before you replied just now, and that is why it was stopped at that time. :) You do not recognize a spirit of unpleasantness when you post the words? Just like if I tell you that I don't believe you are being led by truth, but rather by deception, it is my truth and also could very well produce a contention; as evidenced by Core's response below. Do you both not see and comprehend this? I don't have interest in contention, and so the fine line is walked between me standing up for my truth vs not wishing to be engaged in what will very likely become contention - as displayed by your words that you didn't laugh or mock him but because he's not willing to engage further he is now not sincere and honest. Basically saying the man is two-faced with a nice smile but nothing to back it up. Now, come on, can't you see the potential for contention rising up in that? I can. for example, your fellow member, Core, says I'm hypocritical when I say mormonism isn't my truth nor do I embrace it? What part of contention do you not see this as? Yes, most certainly, God would know this in omniscience and quite often leads us away from a confrontation that will go no where positive. That's all I was saying. :) All the best to you; in truth may we walk. (now, I will definitely no longer respond at the risk of having a less-than-spirit filled discussion about what I perceive truth to be vs what you do; at the risk of breeding some further contention.) Good day.

[@GregSmith-nl8tz]

I encourage you to watch this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/imXLZ5ihmJhkgc0

[@rickw571]

Here's another truth for ya...your "mormon pride" will not allow you to except (or study) the truth about your church and it's founder. For this reason, I feel deeply for you. I also love you. Please study and come to Christ.

[@creedmoor8405]

So amazing. I wish I could talk with you.

[@avagage1]

thanks Earl keep up the good work

[@MamallamaLinda]

I'm so glad I found this channel. It has given me hope for the future. Can I ask which Bible you study from, is it still the KJV?

[@cynthiadeere7599]

His credentials remind me of the Apostle Paul, and all rubbish apart from knowing Christ! Glory to God!

[@Chinaculiacan]

Colossians 1:16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. ..Genesis 1:1. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. John 1:1.

[@rickw571]

About the end of prophets, Jesus says it another way here; Luke 16:16 "The law and the prophets were *until* John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it". Nathan, you don't have to see it...you don't have to hear it, but, there it is.

[@rickw571]

Nathan, are you familiar with Jacob 2: 24 in the BOM? Please explain to us how the BOM can "explain" polygamy (in any edition) to your satisfaction when that verse clearly states polygamy is an abomination before God.

[@MattHill01]

Awesome!

[@LDStothecore]

Again, only a few were commanded to do that. Also, see the last verse of the section.

[@kevinconley1969]

I am Mormon but becoming a disbeliever in all religions

[@teresalucas1]

KEVIN, SORRY FOR THE CAPS, MY EYESIGHT IS BAD. BLESS, YOUR HEART. I WAS RAISED IN A CHURCH THAT USED OTHER BOOKS BESIDES THE BIBLE, SO I U-STAND HOW YOU FEEL. ONE DAY I PUT ALL OTHER BOOKS ASIDE AND STARTED READING THE BIBLE. THE VERSE THAT ALWAYS STOOD OUT TO ME WAS JOHN 14:6 JESUS SAID: "I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE, NO ONE CAN COME TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME". THIS VERSE INTRIGUED ME, SO I CONTINUED TO READ THE WORD WHEN I REACHED THE BOOK OF ROMANS, I READ IT SLOW AND METHODICALLY, THIS IS WHEN I REALIZED THAT THERE WAS NOT ONE THING I COULD DO TO SAVE MYSELF, NO WORKS, I COULD NEVER BE GOOD ENOUGH TO ENTER HEAVEN ON MY OWN MERIT OR CEREMONIAL WORSHIP. THEN I THOUGHT IF THIS IS TRUE THEN THE LORD DIED ON THE CROSS FOR MY SINS. IF HE DIED FOR MY SINS BUT I STILL HAD TO FOLLOW THE RULE OF GOOD WORKS THEN HIS DEATH WAS POINTLESS. I CONTINUED TO READ, AND READ 1ST JOHN, MY EYES WERE OPENED MORE AND MORE. I WAS LED TO JOHN 3:3, AND REALIZED I HAD TO BE BORN AGAIN, NOT BY BAPTISM BUT BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD. I AM NOW A BORN-AGAIN CHRISTIAN (JOHN 3:3) AND MY LIFE IS FULL OF LOVE AND THE CHAINS OF BONDAGE HAVE BEEN REMOVED. BLESSINGS, TERESA

[@jamesthompson6785]

Don't see your name here so ill just use what i see...Conley: Your comment about "becoming a disbeliever of all religions" catches my attention. I am reminded of published thoughts of both Josh McDowell and Lee Strobel. Both of these guys, from different upbringings and timeframes, ended up proclaiming to be atheist at different times of their individual lives. They both set out to prove God never existed. McDowell's book: Evidence that Demands a Verdict, and Strobel's book: A Case for Christ, share evidence of both of them seeing the Bible as true. I will be praying for you and asking God to reveal himself to you and that 2019 will become a new vibrant journey in your walk with Jesus Christ and that you will begin to follow him more closely than ever before. Blessings, Jim

[@glennjohn3919]

Many Mormons go on this path, I was an atheist initially after I left Mormonism. However, there is truth, don't lump the Bible itself in with the teachings of the LDS church. If you study the Bible, you will find much of what the church taught you is the complete opposite of what the Bible teaches you. The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit. (Psalm 34:18). I hope you seek God, if you are ever in a state of brokenness or apathy. For by grace are ye saved through faith (In Christ); and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast (Ephesians 2:8-9).

[@exmormonfiles]

utlm.org/onlinebooks/3913intro.htm I know you don't want to admit the truth but it's there, in black and white.

[@aloesecretinc]

Amen.

[@LDStothecore]

Also, other apostates are claiming President Hinckley told us not to study ourselves out of the church. As usual, no reference provided. Do you know where it comes from?

[@2HRTS1LOVE]

I've read many of your comments, trying to understand the LDS point of view. I have to ask you--are you this rude to everyone, or just us YT commentators? God bless you, I hope you find the real Jesus, He loves you sooooooo much, and knowing Him will make you wonder how you ever made it without Him.

[@elainebeard1320]

Did you affiliate with any other religious group?

[@rickw571]

Well, you danced, but, you didn't answer my question. The Lord God is UNCHANGING. He does not go back and forth on what is abominable, and what is allowed. The real problem for lds people is this; you don't trust God or His Word. You trust Joseph and his words. Pride is what keeps lds folks from following God's command to "test all things". If you test, you will no longer be able to make the false claim "I belong to the only true church on the face of the earth". I'm praying for you.

[@rickw571]

"We will be judged mostly for how we live, and our faith in Christ, not for what church we attend". So, Nathan, are you saying here..that one does NOT have to be lds to go to the Celestial kingdom? I'm not trying to argue, just asking..

[@awolLDSasap]

You are not born a child of God. Mormonism is not Christs church. The infinite God had nothing to do with Josephs counterfeit restoration.

[@LDStothecore]

The Bible does not say Jesus was the last prophet. The Hebrews verse does not say that. The missionary was NOT a business decision. And the church gives us revelation all the time. If you want something you might know, The Family: A Proclamation.

[@Chinaculiacan]

In a letter to the church at Colossae, the Apostle Paul gave an intriguing description of Jesus. In it, he explained Christ's relationship to God the Father and to creation. Some have claimed that Paul’s description of Christ as the first-born of creation means that Jesus was created -- not eternal, not God. Such a doctrine, however, conflicts with the rest of the Bible. Christ could not be both Creator and created; John 1 clearly names Him Creator. (next)

[@LDStothecore]

And I have read the books you mention.

[@allenrichardson4211]

I met Earl last year and enjoyed discussing religion with him. We exchanged emails, but he had trouble defending his views in the light of deeper and clearer evidence in favor of Mormonism. His email responses soon fizzled out and I was left wondering about his honesty and sincerity. His nice smile doesn't quite compensate for his unwillingness or inability to defend his views.

[@core6259]

Same experience I had with him.

[@allenrichardson4211]

Core I guess Earl is all talk except when he has a chance to rescue his former brothers in Mormonism.

[@BlueBell221]

@ Core and @ Allen Richardson Whyever would you assume that if a person doesn't want to engage in an on-going debate that they aren't honest or sincere or has an inability to defend their views? This type of comment makes no sense and lacks a willingness for truth. Personally when I encounter someone who is evidently and resoundly set upon their own path, I leave them to their own path, because time has shown that it is not productive to argue with a person. It stirs up contention. Instead, after realizing that a person is intent on arguing while simultaneously making little to no sense, I pray for them that they might sincerely want to understand the truth so they can be open and God Spirit can step in to teach them through the power of wisdom and truth. I pray the same for you two. It means that I don't want to engage in a fight with a person. If a person sufficiently becomes humble enough to open to a conversation then I might consider. Neither of you two have shown that ability, therefore I would do EXACTLY as Earl has done. As a matter of fact, that is the response that the Christ has revealed I should take; so it makes sense for me to suspect that this is very likely the same response given to Earl. Then I part the communication by offering data that clearly and concisely cuts through the layers of deception prevalent within mormonism by sharing the CES letter written by Jeremy Runnels. cesletter.com/ and the fraud charge court case in the United Kingdom www.mormonthink.com/monson-summons.htm Blessings to you both and may you walk in peace In Jesus.

[@core6259]

The links you post are anti sites. And you say we should allow others to choose their own path, yet you are hypocritical because I say the same thing to the anti-Mormons. If they don't like the LDS church, that's fine, but they should not try to pull everyone else down.

[@BlueBell221]

mormonthink website is not an anti-mormon site. It offers information that has both sides of the debate and you can see for yourself that they show both sides of the discussion - mormon pros and cons. The same applies with the CES Fair-mormon rebuttal website... it is not anti-mormon, it is offering information right out of the mormon church journals plus cognitive discovery. It's just that it is presenting ALL the information as opposed to the church lessons leaving out certain details. Yes, we all have our own journey in life. Mine is open to truth and in doing so I have recognized deception behind Mormonism. Mormonism is your journey in life apparently. I wish you well on yours. I did say that I would leave a person to their path because history has shown that they are not ready....that I would pray for God to open their spirit to truth and understanding. This God would do, but many times it's not for me to do unless directed by Spirit. You are confusing this with some type of hypocritical thing you claim I have. I am not anti-mormon - I am pro-truth. You think that anyone who doesn't agree with you is anti? Just because I do not see truth in your beliefs doesn't mean that you are not entitled to them - apparently you are since it is a free country. I do not have to agree with them - and I do not and have said so. It doesn't mean I enjoy living in a world with such deception in the name of God/Truth and religion. I only wish I lived in a world where there was more integrity in religion, for example mormonism, but alas, there currently is not. I accept that and I also celebrate that men like Tom Phillips can bring truth to a world where it is much needed. Understand? all the best to you Core.

[@calql8er]

Dennis, yes, Mormons are the best people I know. And although I have left, oddly I don't want my LDS friends to leave. However, believe it or not, we can leave the Church and leave it alone. It may be affirming to you to believe otherwise. I am NOT angry at the church. I still root for the BYU Cougars. I did not leave because I took offense. I left because the contradictions, and the lame attempts to explain them, became too great. That's the reason.

[@Chinaculiacan]

The first-born possessed the inheritance and leadership...Therefore, the phrase expresses Christ's sovereignty over creation. After resurrecting Jesus from the dead, God gave Him authority over the Earth (Matthew 28:18). Jesus created the world, saved the world, and rules the world. He is the self-existent, acknowledged Head of creation...Finally, the phrase recognizes Him as the Messiah: "I will make Him (Christ) My first-born, higher than the kings of the earth" (Psalm 89:27)..

[@rickw571]

No, I don't believe in modern prophets. The Bible tells us plainly that Jesus is the last prophet/High Priest. As far as modern revelation goes, give us an example of a "modern day revelation" coming from the first presidency of the LDS church. And please don't include the church's announcement lowering the age for missionarys. That was a business decision.

[@rickw571]

"true things you refer to are always skewed and twisted" Oh, please, we can't discuss this in an inteligent manner until you are willing to study the facts and deal with them. God bless.

[@LDStothecore]

D&C 132 does NOT say plural marriage is necessary for exaltation. Read the ENTIRE section.

[@Chinaculiacan]

Jesus, in response to the Pharisees’ question “Who do you think you are?” said “‘Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad.’‘You are not yet fifty years old,’ the Jews said to him, ‘and you have seen Abraham!’ ‘I tell you the truth,’ Jesus answered, ‘before Abraham was born, I am!’ At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.

[@LDStothecore]

Typical anti complaint. We do study. I have been studying the LDS church for decades and I am not deceived. Where does it say we shouldn't study?

[@TheShodan92]

Oh of course you do. But studying only what you are told to is subjective. Objective study means looking honestly and considering every aspect with an open mind. Mormonism teaches closed minded and shielded study - church approved material of course. Those like Earl and many others who were high up in the church have been shunned by the leaders. And you are instructed to never listen to what they have to say. Lest your eyes shall open and see truth for what it truly is.

[@rickw571]

Nathan, I commend you for your faithfulness to your beliefs. Take a look at Isaiah 43:10-11. Read the words for what they say. Don't try to "interpret" them. Mormonism teaches there are many gods, and that YOU may become a god. Please ponder this my brother. He is waiting for you. :)

[@Chinaculiacan]

The violent response of the Jews to Jesus’ “I AM” statement indicates they clearly understood what He was declaring-that He was the eternal, incarnate God. Jesus was equating Himself with the "I AM" title God gave Himself in Exodus 3:14... If Jesus had merely wanted to say He existed before Abraham’s time, He would have said, “Before Abraham, I was.” The Greek words translated “was” in the case of Abraham, and “am” in the case of Jesus, are quite different. The words chosen by the Spirit make it

[@Nathansmithphotography]

Every edition of the book of Mormon that I have examined, the original 1830 edition, and even the newest 2013 edition (came out Friday), they all explain why polygamy was started, it's purpose, and when it would be stopped. The wording in this verse is exactly the same between all editions, so if the Lord explained polygamy in 1830, and it was practiced biblically in Old Testament times, why is this a problem? It's a law of God, and the Book of Mormon explains exactly why it is practiced.

[@TheLisaswain]

Polygamy is never commanded by God in the Bible. No where can you find where God made polygamy a law in the Bible. Polygamy was something done by men.

[@TheShodan92]

It is problematic due to Joseph Smith practicing polygamy before he (allegedly) had a revelation. And he practiced it in secret and lied about it. The church had to pass 2 manifestos to end the practice which had become unlawful... two!!. Any other modern day cult leader who practiced the same principles (*invoking Gods commandment), would be, by your standards, deceitful and fraudulent. Joseph Smith, for some incredulous irrational reasoning, gets a pass and is excused.

[@Nathansmithphotography]

@@TheShodan92 As I mentioned, the book of Mormon explains why polygamy is instituted, and its purpose. This was in 1830, before Joseph practiced polygamy.

[@lemjwp1756]

Clarifying meaning in the text through minor word revisions (and only a few of those) by Joseph himself... is not the smoking gun Earl claims. The Bible texts have been revised, edited, and updated numerous times...that's why there are so many different translations! Recently a passage in Matthew has been revised in new translations! Also, Earl is very mistaken in saying the translation process was "word for word". That is not the claim of Joseph Smith, or the church. It's also patently false that a person cannot ask questions.

[@Chinaculiacan]

(Context) Message to the Church in Laodicea 14. To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: The Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God, says this: 15'I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot; I wish that you were cold or hot.….. Laodicea was in southern Phrygia, midway between Philadelphia and Colosse.. I'm just going to skip to verse 14 since I know what you are trying to refer.

[@rickw571]

OK, I'll bite; how 'bout how they changed the Nature of God from being ONE God, to three? How 'bout how they changed Adam from being formed by God "from the dust of the Earth", and Eve from being formed from one of Adam's ribs...to being "Spirit children" who came to earth to "receive a body". How about how they changed God from being from "everlasting to everlasting", to a god resulting from "progression" in mormonism? And, where is the lake of fire in lds. Please, answer these questions.

[@johnwarden1922]

if this is a true Mormon doctrine, than what's the point of this life "test" that we all live if we can just screw off and do all the works in the afterlife with all knowledge available. why do we need faith or any works to be save if it can all be done after the fact. also don't you have to be wed in the temple and hold the priesthood to make it to the celestial kingdom, these do require church membership to attain.

[@LDStothecore]

No. Although I may disagree with their doctrine, I don't preach against them and I respect their right to believe what they do.

[@mckster56]

We want them in heaven that is why they try to help you open your heart . Good works are like filthy rags to God. He just wants you to meet and love the biblical Christ

[@LDStothecore]

@@mckster56 I do worship the Christ of the Bible. And although works will not save you, they are necessary. Read James.

[@Chinaculiacan]

(John 14:6); and I AM the True Vine (John 15: 1,5)... You understand as to why I reject most passionately you teachings regarding the Savior of the world?..Your God the Father has at least one wife that He needed in order to become exalted to Godhood, but what does the bible say? Since God is not a man by nature it is impossible for Him as the eternal God to even enter into a human marital relationship that He would need to become God and sexually produce us. (next)

[@TheJpgr1958]

"The LDS Church is Christ's only church." So I take it that those in the FLDS or the RLDS, even though they consider themselves Mormons, are not God's true church correct? If so, can't the term "anti-Mormon be applied to you as well?

[@Chinaculiacan]

You go rick..

[@Chinaculiacan]

Nehemiah 9:6..... 6 Thou, even thou, art Lord alone; thou hast made heaven, THE HEAVEN OF HEAVENS, WITH ALL THEIR HOST, THE EARTH and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee... ....No, I don't see something that isn't there my friend....

[@BlueEyesBrittany]

The scandal of religions all led by men and with double standards : women's issues are neither heard nor dealt with in fairness, requesting the virginity and complete fidelity of women and not of men puts women in the most unbalanced, abusive and risky situation there is and is absolutely counter productive when it comes to the protection of women health, safety, prosperity and survival. So as I said in a previous post, unless we are safe in marriage and have equal rights and same rules apply to both for the the safety and serenity of marriage, we will abstain from marriage or anything that endangers our lives and future.

[@jessicaboudful]

Compelling

[@siilatacollins154]

Left the TRUE CHURCH, & can't leave the CHURCH alone; Refused to repent from their personal sin's of sodom, Babylon & Egypt; They're extremely decebtive, wow! the extreme rebelliousness & ignorance.

[@Nathansmithphotography]

What bible are you using? First, WHERE does it say that Jesus is the last prophet? Give me a scripture. Second, in the Sermon on the Mount, given at the END of his life, Jesus Christ warns against false prophets, but spends the next five verses giving us the way to distinguish between true prophets and false prophets. Jesus Christ NEVER would have done this if there were to be no TRUE prophets! He would have said, "Beware of all prophets, for I am the last!" So where are the true prophets?

[@Chinaculiacan]

beginning of the creation of God-not he whom God created first, but as in Col 1:15-18 (Col 1:15-18), the Beginner of all creation, its originating instrument. All creation would not be represented adoring Him, if He were but one of themselves. His being the Creator is a strong guarantee for His faithfulness as "the Witness and Amen.".. Revelation 1:8. "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Who is coming the 2nd time?

[@Chinaculiacan]

Are Jesus and Lucifer spirit-brothers? Jesus was the first one born of heavenly parents, and Lucifer was a younger sibling. Jesus is referred to as Lucifer's, as well as our, elder brother in the pre-earth life. They are both sons of God (Ibid.; Milton R. Hunter, The Gospel through the Ages, 15; Gospel Principles, 15 [2009 edition]; Abraham 3:22-8 with Moses 4:1-4; The Pearl of Great Price Student Manual/The Book of Moses 1:12-22 (2000); and Jess L. Christensen, “I Have a Question,” Ensign, 25-6

[@binren3984]

Jesus is co equal and coeternal He has always been God. He certainly wasn't a spirit baby Christ was our creator and took on Flesh to save the Elect from spiritual death There is no such thing as a Mother God . read Jerimiah chapter 7 and chapter 44 The Almighty God can created creatures and we are creatures Peace

[@TheJpgr1958]

"You're not serious. You brought up the anti word." (sigh) That's it? This is the best you have in response to what I've stated? Perhaps the same question should be asked of you which is "You're not serious?" But in reality, perhaps it is the best you have.

[@LDStothecore]

What have the prophets changed in God's word?

[@Chinaculiacan]

The description "first-born of all creation" speaks of Christ’s preexistence. He is not a creature but the eternal Creator (John 1:10). God created the world through Christ and redeemed the world through Christ (Hebrews 1:2-4)....Jesus is called the first-born, not the first-created. The word "first-born" (Greek word "prototokos") signifies priority. In the culture of the Ancient Near East, the first-born was not necessarily the oldest child. First-born referred not to birth order but to rank.

[@Nathansmithphotography]

So where are the true prophets? Names please.

[@stephenself7321]

Does Earl realize that the changes he was so worried about were actually made to bring the Book back into line with the original manuscript? Look at the printer's manuscript and you will see it's more in line with the current version than the 1830. Jesus is God. We believe in God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost. He the Son because he came to the earth in flesh. He is the God of earth as he created the earth.

[@josephkerr644]

Stephen Self but, if the Book of Mormon was translated letter by letter using the seer stone. And the letters only disappeared when the scribe wrote them down correctly, then any changes (all 3800 of them) made is questionable. If the Book of Mormon 1830 edition is the only correct book on earth has 3800 changes, then it can’t be from God. Joseph Smith isn’t a Prophet and the LDS Church crumbles.

[@cdowis]

> only correct book on earth It is referring to doctrine, not human errors.Between dictation and printer copying errors, there were about 4-6 errors per page. >was translated letter by letter This was speculation. Joseph Smith is the only one who fully knew the translation process and he did not tell anyone how it happened.

[@josephkerr644]

cdowis if it is referring to doctrine, it should have all doctrine that is required for salvation, correct?

[@cdowis]

3 Ne 27 [16] And it shall come to pass, that whoso repenteth and is baptized in my name shall be filled; and if he endureth to the end, behold, him will I hold guiltless before my Father at that day when I shall stand to judge the world. [17] And he that endureth not unto the end, the same is he that is also hewn down and cast into the fire, from whence they can no more return, because of the justice of the Father. [18] And this is the word which he hath given unto the children of men. And for this cause he fulfilleth the words which he hath given, and he lieth not, but fulfilleth all his words. [19] And no unclean thing can enter into his kingdom; therefore nothing entereth into his rest save it be those who have washed their garments in my blood, because of their faith, and the repentance of all their sins, and their faithfulness unto the end. [20] Now this is the commandment: Repent, all ye ends of the earth, and come unto me and be baptized in my name, that ye may be sanctified by the reception of the Holy Ghost, that ye may stand spotless before me at the last day. [21] Verily, verily, I say unto you, THIS IS MY GOSPEL The Book of Mormon contains the fullness of the gospel, but not all the doctrines and ordinances, the mysteries of God being withheld from the world. That is why we have a living prophet and modern revelation.

[@GregSmith-nl8tz]

Stephen, please, watch this video in its entirety. It is fair and true. I was LDS for 45 years. kzbin.info/www/bejne/imXLZ5ihmJhkgc0

[@Chinaculiacan]

And so if Jesus is coming for the 2nd time because he already came Once, (says the Lord thy God). Exodus 3:14 God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.'..Isaiah 44:6 "This is what the LORD says-- Israel's King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God..Revelation 4:8 Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around,

[@TheJpgr1958]

I also take it that you would never walk arm in arm with those from the FLDS or the RLDS, going door to door preaching what you believe the gospel is, any more than you would walk door to door with a Jehovah Witness. I suppose you can be called a "anti-Jehovah Witness."

[@LDStothecore]

Of course the church respects their right. Have you not read the Articles of Faith?

[@Nathansmithphotography]

Jesus would NEVER give us a commandment that we can't fulfill. Matthew 5:48. We can become perfect like our Father in Heaven is perfect. But part of that is faith in Jesus Christ, the resurrection, repentance, and obedience to His commandments. Christ condemned those who praise Jesus, do everything in his name, but do not obey Him in the conclusion of the sermon on the mount. I don't want to argue. We will be judged mostly for how we live, and our faith in Christ, not for what church we attend.

[@Chinaculiacan]

Six times the Lord Jesus is declared to be the first-born of God ( Romans 8:29; Colossians 1:15, 18; Hebrews 1:6; 12:23; Revelation 1:5). These passages declare the preexistence, the sovereignty, and the redemption that Christ offers. Thus, the phrase "first-born of all creation" proclaims Christ’s preeminence. As the eternal Son of God, He created the universe. He is the Ruler of creation..,,

[@PascalDupont561]

So sad.

[@robertmcnamara5859]

Comment: Mainstream Religion and Child Marriage in the US When we think of families, no one would imagine that pedophiles and rapists could legally marry children, especially girls as young as 16, 12 or 10 years of age. In the US however there is no federal law that prohibits child marriage. Such regulations are governed under States’ Rights. Delaware, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island and Pennsylvania are the only six states that prohibit child marriage without ‘exceptions’ (i.e. parental permissions). In 20 US states there is no definitive legal age limit for marriage (with parental consent). Unchained At Last reported that 300,000 such marriages have taken place in the past 20 years. Such marriage laws serve as a legal buffer in protecting pedophiles and rapists from prosecution, while preventing child brides from filing the charge of rape, since they are under age legally. So, a man who has literally committed statutory rape is immune to prosecution once married to his victim. Unfortunately under such circumstances court Judges and even parents are eager to encourage (coerce) pregnant girls to marry their perpetrators. Unchained at Last and the Tahirih Justice Center conducted campaigns against child marriage, which has resulted in limited effect s in some states. One of the road blocks in some of the most offending states has been the resistance of conservative state law makers and Evangelical religious groups to ending child marriage.

[@Applest2oApples]

Colossians - Christ is called the "firstborn of every creature" indicating He is the first creature born (or created) Heb 1 - Christ made the "worlds" - not "everything" or "spirits" or "angels", but the planets Now consider Revelation 3:14 - Christ is the "beginning of the creation of God" i.e. the first thing created when God began His creation (for we know that creation began before the beginning of the creation of heaven and the earth) Heb

[@Chinaculiacan]

Deuteronomy 10:14. To the LORD your God belong the heavens, even the highest heavens, the earth and everything in it...Psalm 102:25. In the beginning you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands. John 1:1...Isaiah 37:16,20 O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that dwell between the cherubim, … Jeremiah 10:11,12 Thus shall you say to them, The gods that have not made the heavens … YES, I REJECT YOUR TEACHINGS, MOST PASSIONATELY..

[@Chinaculiacan]

No you don't, the Jesus you know is the one JS taught.. Has Jesus always been God? Jesus has not always been God. Jesus, like all other gods before Him, had to become a God. He is the literal Son of God like we are children of God, but He's without sin (Fielding Smith, The Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 346-7 [pre-2002 edition]).

[@binren3984]

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Word/ Jesus. The Greek verb for beginning has no starting point Jesus created all things. He created Lucifer

[@dennispoulsen1133]

Mormons are the best people I know. I wish them the best. I pray for him as we served together in Denmark. The Lord loves him and will help him come back to the truth. He can leave the church but he can't leave it alone.

[@markc9350]

Did you even listen to him. His eyes are now open and there will be no return to the current Mormon church. The LDS church h is fully debunked. Truth is all he ever wanted.

[@alanam9103]

Yes he can

[@alanam9103]

He's left it alone

[@mariau2329]

Praise God he will not return to your empty doctrines.

[@Nathansmithphotography]

Moses, Abraham, and Isaac, all righteous biblical men, all had multiple wives. Who are you to tell God that he cannot change things? Jesus fulfilled the Law of Moses. That changed things! All these things are in your Bible, and we should talk to the author. I did answer your question, but Matthew 13:13 applies here. Only when you are not afraid of the truth, can you find it. I believe first in God the Father, and in His Son Jesus Christ, and they love us enough to give us more than a book! Pray.

[@42apostate]

YOU may "respect their right to believe what they do"--but your CHURCH (LDS Inc) DOES NOT. They wish FLDS would "disappear" because they are embarassed, realizing that FLDS came FROM Mormonism, and they are doing all they can to eradicate FLDS from the face of the earth by reporting ANYONE practising polygamy to authorities--THEN proceed to pat themselves on the back for their "community service" in fighting polygamy. How soon Mormons forget THEY were in that very position just 100 years ago.

[@LDStothecore]

Before you look at the mote in another's eye you should look at the beam in your own. And I have come to Christ.

[@TheShodan92]

Study the FULL story of Mormonism.

[@GhostriderPossum]

3 NEPHI 28: 34-35

[@GregSmith-nl8tz]

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