EARL'S FIRST SHOEING!... How does he like wearing SHOES?!

[@klauskarbaumer6302]

When my son and I visited Elmar Lapp (Kinzers,PA) in 1989 we were astonished to see that he kept goldfish in his stock tank for the horses. He explained that they kept the tank clean, eating what the horses dribbled in.

[@woodsgremlin9995]

They also eat the mosquito larvae and any algae. We've done it for years. It works great.

[@SamDoe-zn3tu]

My grandparents put catfish in the tank.

[@sterlingsiam]

I am impressed at how calm and cooperative Earl is during the shoeing. He's a good horse!

[@cindycarlson7881]

Love seeing Bill roll around in the dirt at the end. 🙂 Bree is absolutely beautiful with her blond mane and tail! ❤

[@Nancy-1249B]

It's so interesting to me that you can see how those horses love their barn. Skippy has the life. He has more ' business ' to tend to around there. And I see he's graduated to riding along with you these days. It looks peaceful there on your farm. Thankyou for the video.

[@Adelineward-ix7lg]

You’re right Jim horses are more patient then peoples in general.Hugs to Bree.!!!

[@Wendy-bd9zu]

I was thinking, this is the third or fourth fall i go in with you guys, my horse was a foal and can already be ridden, we have changed boarding stalls, but you are still there ❤ buck is gone, horses are born and matured at your place. I love your videos greetings from the Netherlands.

[@PeterDowd-r9b]

the Suffolk Punch Horses are a very accepting and calm individuals

[@FritsKooijmans]

Working Jim with the horses 😅

[@williamleopold507]

We love watching you work with the horses , they are so beautiful . We are wondering where your milk cow is , we haven't seen her for a long time now .Do you still have her ?

[@RaymondWKing-dn8wf]

Good looking Sawn Tong Jim, I need to make a couple for my McCormic Deering Mowerses, have a wonderful day

[@bobogilvie4472]

When I first started farming and I was using aMM R ploughing in a semi virgin field I stirred up numerous bumble bee nests. SCARY TIME BUT NO STINGS

[@zachodom7486]

Jim, the idea behind “stretchers” or “spreaders” as some folks call it….wayyyy back when people actually worked stock for a living everyday…they needed a double tree that was stout enough to hold a big pair of mules or horses. Steel was super expensive and of course the south being broke, we had to figure things out. That said, old timers figured out if you would use chain instead of wood it wouldn’t break, cheaper than making steel double trees, and it’s lighter. When using stretchers you’re pulling off the chains! The only purpose for the wood in the middle is to keep the chains “spread” apart. If you want a 42” double tree for instance, your spreader wood in the middle needs to be 42”. The only purpose for the wood is simple to spread them apart. Theyre pulling off the chains. Now that the chains make a “V” if you will from the load up to the single trees, you don’t have a true pivot point like you do on a double tree. It will swing a little but not much. With that, the stretcher helps level your team. When one horse or mule gets ahead…because of the limited swing and pivot…that animal will get more load and it’ll discourage that type behavior. Quickly! I ground skid with stretchers exclusively. I even have some single stretchers also for working one animal single. I like a double tree on my cart and log wagon. But def stretcher on ground skidding. Your tongue chains on your pole is the same principle as what we’re using here for an evener. Just on the other end. The piece in between your chains just keeps the team spread apart at the front. But they’re holding back on the chains. Make sense? I can send ya some pictures of a stretcher and you could make you one easy enough. I can promise ya that once you try one, you’ll use it a bunch! My stretchers are setup with swivel hooks on it, and makes it nice moving stuff around the farm and logging. Really handy. Anyway, hope this helps make sense of it for you and maybe some of the other folks wondering. I’ve done a few videos on stretchers vs double trees. The first thing you’ll notice is how light it is. Then the second thing is how well it keeps your team together. Take care my friend and thx for the video.

[@Ronald-hx6zn]

Duke and Earl and others have the makings of a grade A team.😊

[@joycehennequin8469]

Good evening Jim and Brenda,that was a lovely ending to this video.Turning the horses out and that beautiful sunset really made for a quiet peaceful night so calming thankyou for sharing.All the very best dear friends ❤

[@boscodog4358]

Ground hive was probably "yellow jackets".

[@firecaptaintom]

😬

[@michaelodonoghue9385]

Thank you Jim for another pleasant day trip to your farm.

[@kirbygulbrandsen4507]

I've always loved your communication with the horses and they definitely know your commands. I was commenting on how all of the videos I was hearing lawnmowers in the background. I was saying that the lawnmowers and things like the wind are really not a problem. I hear the KZbinr apologizing, you guys especially and it's never a problem it really doesn't seem to be loud nor does it interrupt the video. A little wind or something like the planer are never a problem, just so you know.

[@grandpafischer8317]

Thanks for letting us hang out today. I've trimmed my horses, but never had the gumption to shoe them. Nice job young man.

[@andrewmoran7353]

🧐 Shoeing real good for non farrier status, horses 🐎 looking great per usual 👍👋

[@LivelihoodFarm2023]

How tall are your horses? You’re always showing their weight but I don’t know if I’ve ever seen you say how tall they are. Another great video, thanks again. 👍🏼

[@marks7502]

EARL!

[@jmat5857]

I was waiting for Brenda to say “Good job, Earl.” 😀

[@debbievogt9881]

@@jmat5857 She did go up to the head end near the end. I'm sure she reassured him. That's just the way she is

[@francisgribben6931]

Hi Jim, wondering if you were aware that the Suffolk Punch is considered endangered in the UK. Registered numbers are low. The Suffolk Punch is first mentioned back in the 1500s in a book. Your land is clay, have you ever put Lime or Limestone on the land as we do on clay in Scotland to improve drainage ?

[@michaelrhodes6461]

The American Cream is declining

[@aedenjohnson6103]

I've never heard of using limestone for drainage but instead for nuetralizing acidic soils.

[@francisgribben6931]

We use it in Scotland to allow water to pass through clay more easily on heavy land. the process is called Flocculation. The clay particles bunch together to form crumbs and open up tiny spaces which allow the water through. limestone crushed is also used. Our clays are acidic.@@aedenjohnson6103

[@gaylesmith1738]

Skippy has the best life riding along with the horses!! I enjoy your q & a's! It's interesting to hear your explanation as you are shoeing. I'm getting a better idea about the anatomy of the hoof! That's quite an ordeal with that shoe!! He did pretty good standing, but hs impatience is showing! ❤ Such a peaceful sight in & around the barn! Good night!! 💕

[@louisecassidy5991]

Big question, stallion, gelding or mare. Stallions can be great, but some are mis-directed, distracted, often potentially dangerous. I also read somewhere that if a stallion is hurting, or over-tired, he'll quit on you before a mare or gelding. I find geldings dull, and was mostly a mare person. All my keepers were mares, and I can honestly say I never noticed any hormonal issues, or oestrus. Mares have fire, great instincts, and develop good trust. A mare that's had a foal is unlikely to knock a child over. Bees. Saw a pony stung when I was a kid, he was loose and there was a hive in a gum tree he was investigating and got stung on the nose. Shook his head and ran about in pain for some time. I guess he learned something. Bees are psychic, prey on fear, so just send them loving vibes. Earl is handling his first shoeing like an old pro. Greetings from Australia.

[@suepeterson5675]

Skippy sure likes the hoof crumbs , yum yum skippy . 😊

[@louisecassidy5991]

Dogs always go for the trimmings.

[@michaelnancyamsden7410]

Very informative , interesing view of a lovely farm. Bri is beautiful. June is a cutie pie with a curled mane.

[@markalan1501]

Thanks for the last part. Its fun to just hang out and watch.🎉

[@cindya.esquivel6876]

I have worked cattle and mostly trail riding and have ran into bees, we cantered over an in ground hive. Yes we were attacked one horse in particular, everyone got off there horses to help clean the bees off the horse being attacked. Nobody died and everyone was able to continue the day. We went to a seminar given by U of M veterinarians, and they were adamant that the majority of horses only need free choice of a good hay and grazing to be healthy. So sounds like you know what you are doing. Im a barefoot kinda horse person but I don't haul logs or work my horses. Nice job with the shoes 😊 God bless you and Brenda

[@Deanna-k4i]

Notice little black sure likes to photo-bomb the videos another great video of day in the life of farming 😊❤😊

[@ghythi9929]

What a wonderful way to close out the video, so peaceful. Thank you for sharing with us.

[@jamesmailly7990]

It seems to me, your horses are very smart, of course, you have spent much time working with them, great to see !!!

[@paulhuffey2015]

I've often wondered why you don't remove the rocks and broken blocks in your barnyard? Great video!

[@nenaddjuric6518]

Thank you very much for showing real life situations along with your opinions and advice from a life long experience ! Great video !

[@erikamarczak8470]

I have an old spreader chain with a wooden spreader bar, I think it's set up with 2 detachable single trees, it came out of a barn In Springfield, VT. I heard they were preferred by folks that like using a single or 2 and then join them to pull the loaded scoot home with the pair. If I can find it maybe I'll bring it for woods demo or talking purposes.

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

I wonder whose barn it's from, I might have known them? It's interesting that everybody seems to have used these for eveners and I grew up using it for a neck yoke.

[@erikamarczak8470]

@@WorkingHorsesWithJim I suspect that there is a type for each use, mine are heavier than the chain that you or Carl used for a neck yoke. I don't recall the owner.

[@randywaite4573]

Another great video full of information. We know how old Baron, Duke, And Earl, and the two fillies are but how old are Ken, Bill, and Lady??

[@joqlady888]

I don't know if you guys up north eat this ,,but; it just looks like a Biscuits, tomato gravey/rice and ham evening supper. What a beautiful evening sky. lov to you guys from South Alabama

[@davidhypes5228]

Thanks for answering my question about the bees Jim!

[@klauskarbaumer6302]

Great shoeing job, like a good professional farrier!

[@br927]

I think you should do a video on Skippy!! You had Lady & Bill, they were a great pair!

[@jamessparks2691]

Always your videos. I always have a memory when I hear your fence charger by the water tank. 66 Sunset Strip back in the 60s. Cookie, Cookie lend me your comb. Lol Always enjoy your videos. Horses look and act great. Never see any bad habits

[@tylerwells9953]

Here in Newfoundland Jim, It was traditional to use chain traces.( I also see that used on mules in the south.) the wooden piece that held the chains apart at the back ( what you’d call an evener) was always called a spreader here . Because it spreads the chains apart. There was also a bigger link that the ends of the spreader went through, just like you showed on the neck yoke.

[@the_eternal_student]

Nice history lesson about the neck yokes.

[@patriciabeyer8029]

Good morning. Thanks for the video. 🙏🇨🇦👍

[@blazemacdonald2021]

Hello Jim Here in nova scotia Canada and the maritime provinces we would call what your using as a yoke a crutch chain when it's used as a Whipple tree or evener!

[@WorkingHorsesWithJim]

Interesting, I've never heard of that

[@blazemacdonald2021]

​@WorkingHorsesWithJim yes I use one alot when I'm using my horse single in the woods works great!

[@myhorses2]

Great video not a bad shoeing job at all Jim can you maybe explain to people about if they are going to shoe their own horses They should watch for the quick in the hoof People might not know about that Thank you again love your videos

[@randybutler4772]

Thank you for sharing.🐴

[@york806]

I have learned a lot watching Jim-But wish i had paid more attention to my Grandfather, Albert Straight, what a fool i was..

[@richardsurber8226]

Wow great questions. Nice work with the video Jim

[@jenvonoepen9420]

Fun to watch..

[@Deserthome333]

I was riding a gentle Molly mule through brush and stirred up a ground nest, Liza started bucking and I went off. That is the only time she reacted to bees.

[@MissyCockerill]

Nice job! 😊

[@hubertwebb9869]

Jim, since you had so much trouble with the two front nails on Earl, could you drill a smaller nail hole and then put the nails into the small open hole?

[@grahamhenley2951]

Hey Jim.... looks to me that the heat from the grip weld has caused the nail holes in the forged shoe to relax... It doesn't take much at all for them to close up!

[@mfc4591]

Great content. Thank you

[@harryjansen6789]

Great job great video, be safe and be well,

[@NotKev2017]

I have only had the experience of watching another horse get stung and go ballistic on the rider on her back. My friend got bucked off and I grabbed the reins. She got back on slowly and we headed back to the barn. It never happened again for which I am thankful.

[@territn8871]

Loved watching you do all the things with the hosses today!🥰 Earl has passed Baron up on weight a little! He's a big boy. When I was a teenager my neighbor and I rode horses after school. One day I was riding beside a ditch and my horse started raring up. I jumped off and saw a yellowjacket had stung her belly. Someone had thrown an apple in the ditch and yellowjackets were all over it. That's the only time I was aware of my horse having trouble with bees. Question: At the end it looked like Bill had circles around both eyes (51:38). Is he getting gray around the eyes or was it just how the daylight made it look? The other question is, is it about time to wean June? Enjoyed the video! See you Friday.

[@loriegreene9375]

Another great video! Brenda your video skills are artful. Most of the time, I feel as I am in the barn with you guys. I so enjoyed seeing Jim shoeing the horse. It takes a lot of hard work and patience. I wonder if you can sharpen a rasp?

[@johnnypurkey7545]

Got into bumble bee's nest with that number 3 john Deere i was talking about.

[@sueboettcher]

Nice video! Nice variety and I loved the ending with the sun setting. Does Bill still get along with NObody but Lady?

[@larrycrain5650]

NOW I understand why tractors were invented!!

[@TerresaEmmins]

Hi Jim and Brenda, my pony was stung by a bee on his eye lid.l rang the vet ,they said he was ok..l am allergic to bee sting,s.😊

[@Mairi-louise]

Question, what age are bill lady and ken? Aswell as what age do you retire your horses?? Many rhanks for the fantastic videos

[@richardspeakes2883]

Will we be seeing William again

[@RichardAvis-fl4nu]

question, have you retired Ken or will you use him to help train the younger horses

[@Autigers2013]

Can you drill the holes out with a small drill bit, so you can get the nail started?

[@thirzapeevey2395]

Jim, I think what you are missing on those spreaders is that the chains are longer, and the horses are actually pulling from those chains. All the spreader is, is a stick that holds the horses apart, but they are pulling by the chains and not the wood. One of the things I would love to see sometime would be a round table discussion, maybe on zoom, between you, Zach Odom, and maybe a few other folks about the regional differences in harness and equipment and the factors that influence those differences. Maybe even do more than one, covering different types of equipment, harness one time, eveners another, etc. We've been having some of these discussions here at home, but they might be really useful for someone who wanted to work horses. For instance, the logs Zach Odom is pulling are much denser, and he is hauling them in shorter lengths. He also doesn't get snow down there in Tennessee, and lastly, his soil is much different: more clay, fewer boulders. Because the logs are short and heavy, they are going to want to dig into the ground more and make it better to use a wagon and carry the logs, whereas your longer, lighter, and snow lubricated logs will pull behind a cart just fine. All of those factors are going to effect this harness choices and his cart/wagon choices. Ben Burgess is actually in the area where I grew up, and I've worked horses there. I'm really familiar with the woods he's working in. The ground there is often really steep,. Folks farm the more level land, and the steeper ground is left in woods, so when he is skidding, he's going to be on really steep hills. The ground there is really greasy clay, and when it gets wet, it sticks to everything, and is slicker than snot, in the local parlance. The harness typically used in that area was really similar to Zach Odom's harness, with a few minor differences in the breeching. I used to assume that harness was just designed to be cheap during the Great Depression, but Zach was explaining that the mules actually carry some of the weight of the load on their butts with that breeching, the way your harness puts some of the load on their backs. The Mennonites brought in what you call western harness when they came into the area, and I think that is what he is using now, but most of the old timers in that area used harness like Zach Odom's. We did get snow around there occasionally, but it never lasted long, so it wasn't something you could count on for skidding logs. Our woods there were pretty much the same as what Zach Odom is cutting: lots of oak, poplar, beech, some maple, very little pine. Such a discussion might help to forestall the questions asking why you don't do things the way Zach does, or asking Zach why he doesn't do things the way you do. Again, just an idea. I imagine it gets tough coming up with subjects for videos. Earl is coming along really nicely, and he has beautiful feet. Shoeing might be a good subject for a roundtable discussion as well. I'm sure your shoes for working in snow are different from what Zach or Ben use for logging in greasy clay. Brenda, your videography just keeps getting better and better. This video was beautiful. I did have a bee sting a horse day when I was unharnessing it, which led to a runaway through a neighbors 25th anniversary lawn party. I also got stung myself by one of those "murder hornets" that were much in the news a couple of years ago. They have actually been around a long time, and I got stung by one when I was several miles from home driving a green team. It flew up the slit in the cuff of my flannel shirt and stung me in the elbow. Fortunately, I had another shirt underneath, and I came out of that shirt pretty darn quick. My arm swelled up pretty good, but my green team behaved and we got home in one piece.

[@davidmcmaster1695]

Is it the large straps hooked to the back tress that take all the pulling.or is it a combo of of everything that makes the pull even.

[@shyiann23]

👍👍👍👍

[@RealJohnWayne]

Corns for Cows, 🐂 Oats are for Horses. 🐴 👍 🇺🇲

[@RaymondWKing-dn8wf]

When thy Brazed the Toe on thy closed or deformed the nail Holes, this requires heating the Shue and reponching the Holes with a Chisel. Have a wonderful day

[@joqlady888]

I don't mind not having the audio at times..

[@billkimmel9091]

You need a Skippy cam

[@yvonnechristmas2616]

❤ Skippy love riding on the scoot ! Jim, do the horses lay down and sleep all night ?

[@firecaptaintom]

They lay down regularly, as for sleeping, they can actually do that standing up!

[@robbullis5025]

Have you come up with a plan to add stalls to the barn for the horses this winter?

[@rogerpadgett3189]

What is the advantage of a Toe Clip or not great video thank you

[@andrewgivens4503]

What is bill and lady's age? Good video.

[@mishloud4215]

You are actually going to have 4 teams of horses; which two would you put together in your four teams?

[@printaboul]

Printaboul = Gaëtan (Ville de Québec) I was curious to see if Earl would have been surprise to walk with shoes for the first time ... Not really I realised.

[@judsonwalker4259]

Years ago when I was in high school, I had a girl friend whose daddy pulled horses, he never liked mares for pulling, never would say why, thinking back on it, I don't he liked puttin' up them being in heat.

[@debbiebjorklund3241]

Shoes on some, and not on others, do you then keep none shawed horses in a different pasture oor did you tell us that at 44:33.? 5:01 where's the Pole strap.? what's it do.? [guess you know now tht I'm new to the world of working horses TACK??.] 7:00 i like seeing you smear sawdust into ea stall, but how do you get the sawdust onto the barn floor from the sawdust trailor tho.? 😂 Glad you havent been stung. Answering questions while your working your kids in the field is really cool. I'll look forward to Wms cameos. Haha. Wow, your Suffocks take SUCH SMALL SHOES.! (Our Belgian had judge feet. jk) Where your BLACKS (percherons Ken & Buck) stronger than the Suffock punch teams? Shoeing still Fascinates me . I've done Alot of riding but never knew what the ferrior might be looking for. I donot have a Belgian anymore but am still enjoy good horseman work. Your CALM is admirable. You're soo calm 45:00 Ty so much 4 saying what u look for in a hoof!. I dnt have a horse anymore. Loved Brenda getting a close up of the side of the hoof too .!. 😅 And Earl was a real champ! (Dawgs love eating horse hooves trimings. Mmmmm). 😂 Brenda you have gotten so good at videoing the whole picture.!. Ty again P.S. ya I watched much more than once, 😂 I really like being w you.!. 26:30 ty for being so good to your neighbors too !! Gr8 video.!. Jim you have Perrfected the art of keeping, training, working, shoeing and so many other details to do w horses.!. Not to mention MANAGING TO RECORD SO MUCH at you and Brenda's farm. Ty.!. I feel you are a great Great Horseman Jim! ❤ God bless yall❤, horses❤, cats❤ and dawg ❤.!. 😂

[@debbiebjorklund3241]

Sorry I wrote SOOOO MUCH. sorrry!. Love ya s❤❤

[@marilynwitherell186]

I often wonder why to you leave the halter on Duke and Earl when you harness them for work, but you don’t with the older horses?

[@dustincharleyboy]

I have a question. Iv been watching since 2022 and never seen you use a brand on any of your horses Jim. Did you ever brand your horses? I know that sounds cruel but they do up here in Canada.

[@charlesdavidson9656]

Dustin I believe , horse branding would be a local issue for western Canada ( Alberta) where multiple horse owners are running large herds of horses on large pastures . Those horses are not handled often and horse ownership must be established . Branding cattle same issue . Dairy cattle have numbered ear tags . Like Pansy had .Jim handles his horses every day , so therefor they have names and he knows each animal . Has Jim had branded horses in the past, maybe . will he answer your question , maybe. Calgary Stampede, Greatest Show on Earth . I love the bull riding ,bulls win most of the time and a bull rider must be "nuts" .Aha farming great fun when Jim and Brenda are doing all the work and trying to make a living wage .Bye Charlie

[@dustincharleyboy]

@@charlesdavidson9656 Makes sense. Yeah they all have brands up here. I'm in the BC interior. Thanks

[@charlesdavidson9656]

@@dustincharleyboy Thanks for the fast and nice reply Dustin . Ottawa Valley , just north of Jim,s farm . No branding of horses or cattle here . We do get western animals thru our auctions sometimes , but not common.Bull riding , saddle bronc and bare back riding, no thanks for me, its only 8 seconds. Yee Haw . Bye Charlie

[@garythomas1214]

Working horses is sooo physical.How much longer do you think you can handle that physically? Then what's next for you ??

[@TubbyLadyDallas]

What causes the "sawing" sound in the background? I've heard it a few other times in other videos.

[@joqlady888]

How bout the milk cow and the pigs? Do you still have either or all.?

[@sherrywiley3916]

Question: besides the Belgians, Percherons and Suffolk Punch horses, have you had any other breed of draft horse?

[@chips4974]

Great question Sherry . I want to know why Clysdale are not preferred by pullers or Amish farmers .Budwizer beer wagons are very showey. 😊😊😊

[@siemprefeliz1]

Hate to talk about someone's work. Next time test run your nails thru the holes of your shoe to make sure they go all the way thru before tacking on the shoe You need to buy a Pritchel or get experienced farrier to make you one so you can open the holes in the shoe correctly:). lastly get your knife sharp. Makes your work much easier especially on a heavy footed draft.

[@paulfuqua2023]

How much is a set of new harness?

[@ChadMorrison-jz2we]

Where is Ken at the farm

[@debbievogt9881]

Love how they keep looking at you Brenda. Is Brenda filming? Yes, so let's get out of here

[@rogerpadgett3189]

Use your preacner tool mahe the hole larger may be

[@paulwright8621]

When will you put the harness on Bree

[@martindowling1401]

The horse on the right side watch his left leg it looks like he's favoring it? Left rear

[@gwilliams4444]

👍🏽👍🏽

[@Mic6S]

XO

[@harrywarren5081]

Wouldn't it be easier to use a wheeled trailer or wagon than the scoot?

[@perkirkegaardlemming720]

I learned as an apprentice mason in the late 60s - early 70s, from an experienced craftsman, that when the nails bent, the hammer could be too smooth, especially when nailing with galvanized nails. Then you could grind scratches on the hammer by grinding the hammer a bit on a concrete tile. It worked. I have shod horses and it doesn't take much movement or a bad working position for the seams to bend. They are softer than nails used for timber.

[@bobogilvie4472]

YOU sure are getting a workout