Early South Slavic History

[@Cardan011]

Sheit history of Balkans is like 1000 seasons of game of thrones

[@TheWolfDude91]

bruh, you have no idea :D

[@georgegkoumas5026]

Keep in mind that this is just early south Slav history, this doesn't mention anything about ancient Greece, the Ottoman empire and ofc the Balkan wars. Also the Byzantine empire is briefly mentioned ofc because the point of this video is the Slavs not the Greeks.

[@tarkalak]

*of Europe

[@djsonicc]

@@georgegkoumas5026 those could be spin-offs lol

[@FrakkinToasterLuvva]

You ain't seen nothing. Read up on the Nemanjić dynasty. There was no generation in which that family didn't fight each other for the throne.

[@krupam0]

6:34 "So the Balkans were in this constant flux of uncertain political control by various groups." Huh, and they say history doesn't repeat itself.

[@sciolist3109]

Said nobody ever The actual saying is that history DOES repeat itself.

[@SlimRolla1]

"History doesn't repeat itself, it rhymes."

[@captainjackpugh6050]

Where did you find that information

[@mrs.hancock4124]

The difference between today and then was the fluxing within ethnic tribes of Europeans.

[@99Boiko]

Yep, especially when history is helped along the way by outside forces.

[@biff-6603]

The main reason why Bulgaria was so successful is because Asparuh convinced local Slavs to join him in the battle against the Byzantines. When they won he founded Bulgaria as a country of both Bulgars and Slavs together. Bulgar nobility ruled exclusively for a few generations initially but regarded both peoples equally and they soon merged into one culture. The early rulers practiced genuine nation building in a style reminiscent of Thracian nobility. Thracian scripts may have also been a basis for the Cyrillic script.

[@nizam-alem6761]

can you give me sources about the nation building in a style of thracian nobility?

[@_uwu_8236]

cyrillic was based on glagolic and greek scripts and glagolic was based on the greek script.

[@otomux5212]

​@@_uwu_8236 phenician alpfabet no greeks! Learn better. What is the main difference between the Phoenician and Greek alphabets? The Phoenician alphabet consists of 22 characters with vowel sounds built into the symbols. The Greeks modified the Phoenician alphabet by changing some of the symbols as well as creating separate vowels. They also made their alphabet more phonetically correct.

[@mza1409]

I wonder if our ancestors also wore Adidas tracksuits?

[@timax4114]

Lol, ofcourse they did eating semechki and drink slivovitza

[@dacho707]

@@timax4114 the fuck are semechki, south slavs aren't russians you know?

[@andrewmorisseau2575]

Haha, I'm not a slav, but I'm living in Macedonia and wearing an Adidas tracksuit right now!

[@timax4114]

@@dacho707 semenke?

[@dacho707]

@@timax4114 semki

[@Fruzhin5483]

Correction about Boris 1 of Bulgaria - He didn't die in 889. He abdicated that year to his firstborn son - Vladimir Rasate, who, in turn, got taken down after trying to bring back paganism. In 893 Boris called a concil with which was decided that Boris's third son Simeon would take the throne. Also the map of the ninth century is incorrect on the Serbo-Bulgarian border

[@KingsandGenerals]

What a great video!

[@DotoHacku]

Indoeuropean roots. Lot of words has same root, for example: Steel, Stahl, Stal / Iron, Icen, Acero, Acier / Sun, Sonne, Sol, Słońce

[@DotoHacku]

Actually no, indoeuropean words have a root in common and the use varies in diferent modern languages. An excellent example is the word "wòrd" wich means water, this word become unda in latin and is onda in spanish, onda means wave. You can see that words declinate from the common root

[@neilmccauley690]

All this Slavs are one big nation,separate on tribes with diferent names from diferent regions but it was one big nation with same language and dna.There is no migration they just changing names of tribes tru history.

[@Dmdm_dm]

At 13:08 it's inaccurate though. There was no division between Rome and Constantinople in terms of the religious doctrine.

[@joshgraham8209]

Your channel is one of the best on YT!

[@Siapanpeteellis]

This was the best explanation of how the Balkans became Slavic that I have encountered. Much better than the many books I have read on the subject and superman myths. Awesome.

[@pevajmuziku3235]

Hahahah

[@kaligulajovanovic]

Maybe it is the best, but the problem is that it never happened.

[@miloshp7399]

​@@kaligulajovanovicYour education never happened 😂

[@franciscoflamenco]

@@makavelimaka8035 It's always funny to see delusional claims such as this.

[@doomdrake123]

Small corection - Boris the First died in 907 not in 887. I see why you may have been cnofused since he abdicated the throne to his firstborn and the thirdborn son (hella of a infighting)

[@DeVolksrepubliek]

Hella infighting* (the a in hella comes from of)

[@historyrhymes1701]

Your channel is simply amazing and very underrated

[@nedimistanojen7070]

Serbian territory it's a OLD COUNTRY BULGARIA.

[@dimiturslavkov231]

there is so many versions..

[@frankies7468]

@@unsgus925 Patria is a greek word

[@unsgus925]

@kim a hellens was just a small tribe

[@zeljkostanisic4299]

@@nedimistanojen7070 hahahaa Who no that ? History change face Day by Day

[@tijanagojic1995]

I had to pause several times so that the narrator could catch breath.

[@piotrwiara1564]

Greetings to Slavic brothers from Slovenia Serbia and Croatia. Pozdrowiena dla braci Słowian Słoweńców Serbów i Chorwatów !!!!

[@tihi1788]

pozdrav brate moj

[@ricmamaddafakka7248]

Pozdrav braćo Slovenska svih denominacija, vera i religija. SLOVENI UJEDINIMO SE.

[@i1bike]

Nice sense of humor

[@Corvus2222]

Pozdrav iz Slavonije brate

[@roby1251]

Ey dipshit you left out Bosnia and Hercegovina.

[@zzap4922]

Holy crap. Never even knew the story of the Bulgars and Bulgaria was so interesting. Amazing video. Regards from Lithuania!

[@aleksk4151]

Cyrillic script is created in Bulgaria and used first by the Bulgarians before ALL other slavs

[@GK-fc8bu]

Thank you zZap! Comments like this always makes me happy.

[@unsgus925]

@@aleksk4151 serbians says that cyrilic script is created by them :D

[@begemod1743]

@@unsgus925 very common for the serbs Claiming things for them selfs. No Matter who you ask in the Balkans, they will say the Serbs are claiming what their eyes see

[@chriskechagias5360]

@@aleksk4151 by whom?

[@antegelo8809]

Ah that lovely balkan.... The place full of peace and fights, what to say, arguing is in our blood.

[@fpsserbia6570]

well Balkan is cross road for North - South and West - East , we are not strong enough to be able to have our own interest so we follow interest of other Imperial countries that is why there were and still is a lot of wars in the Balkan.

[@vladimirjevremovic4449]

We are never bored... :D

[@ivanpetkovic2130]

Najbolja stvar kod nas je to što uvjek znaš ko je pobijedio u argumentu, onaj koji nema sjekiru u lubanji:D

[@austenhead5303]

Less blood, more geography. Every single empire just has to expand into the Balkans.

[@1998-h1r]

🖤🇦🇱AUTOCHTONOUS SHQIPTARIA🇦🇱🖤

[@fairextl]

Actually, the origins of the Bulgars are largely unknown. There are sources from Armenian writers telling us Old Bulgarians inhabited the Caucasuses for a period of time and that they had great stoneworking abilities and built stone houses when they migrated to the area. Because of all the evidence there is a newer theory regarding the origins of the Proto-Bulgarians, that states they are from Iranian descent and the Turkic elements we see in their culture were picked up later on, as many Turkic tribes migrated from Asia into the lands inhabited by the Old Bulgarians and vise versa.

[@MLaserHistory]

Could be, but I think more research has to be done in to that as the current facts do present a valid argument but not necessarily a closed case.

[@fairextl]

@@MLaserHistory That's the case with all theories about Proto-Bulgarian history of origin, sadly. We just don't have the evidence to make some kind of a solid conclusion.

[@unsgus925]

from river volga i think

[@InauguralAgate6]

Thank you for this video! It provides the context for some of the things you mentioned in your western slavic history video while explaining southern slavic settlement in a straightforward way. I look forward to your eastern slavs video!

[@Fruitekk]

You have great videos! Very complicated topic with a lot of missing puzzle pieces, but explained in a very simple and understandable way

[@mg4361]

A great video! In the end you say that the slavic Balkans wasn't completely slavicised and that there were a lot of non-slavic speaking groups. This is very true. I know that in Croatia, the dalmatian cities were not fully slavicised until well after the middle ages, with the last speaker of the Dalmatian Romance language having died in 1898. In parallel, many speakers of eastern romance languages lived in the hills and became Vlachs and Morlachs, leading a transhumance pastoralist life. The actual Slavs initially mostly inhabited tha pannonian part of Croatia and the fertile parts of the coast, leaving the cities, the mountains and the smaller islands to the romance speakers. The romance languages later faced a double pressure to assimilate either into slavic speakers or into Venetian/Italian, which accelerated their disapparence.

[@trashbockmist9077]

A great Comment!

[@cizma27]

I am really disappointed that Delmat language is dead. It looks like a pretty language

[@goranmiljus2664]

Many were also ETHNICALLY CLEANSED to Italy by the USTASHA.

[@zivkovicable]

Substantial remnants of Dalmatian Romance language survive in the dialects of the Dalmatian Islands today, many of which are uninteligable to most mainland Croatians. Some ethnic Italians from Istria & central Dalmatia slavicised their names during the course of the 20th century, my mothers family included.

[@Livanz1]

You are absolutely right about the non-slavic speaking groups , there must have been lots of them and the slavic ( then ottoman ) pressure did accelerate their disappearance south of the Danube but look at what happened on the north side ...

[@bigozimak]

Honestly, that was the best video on this subject I have ever seen! Congratulations!

[@Moredread25]

One thing that I always think is important to mention about ancient settlements in the Balkans is that we have to remember that they didn't have access to the New World vegetables like potatoes which are better suited for mountainous areas. Good presentation. South Slavic history is complicated because of how many people move into and around the area and how political the history is today.

[@djziomsuper]

Wow, never heard that Bulgarian people lived originally in other side of the sea which is called "Great Bulgaria". Really interesting video!

[@WindWaker1233]

Those are the bulgarS, just 1 of the 3 main ethnic groups that form what are today the bulgarIANS. they were the political and military elite and were quickly assimilated in the local population, today we have even less than 1% of their dNA (however this is disputed because even the bulgar origin is uncertain, so no need to go deeper)

[@99Boiko]

Yeah but it also causes confusion. One needs to distinguish the proto-Bulgars from the modern day Slavic Bulgarians. In short, the two nations mixed, and got on, and the Empire eventually adopted a Slavic personality due to the fact that the Turkic Bulgars assimilated. However, for one to be a Bulgarian in 2021 does not necessarily spell proto-Bulgar ancestry, while the Bulgars in turn settled across on the lands on both sides of the Adriatic (ex-Yugoslavia and Italy).

[@westsidermetalhead4997]

Get this, there was a time where 2 Bulgarias existed. This one and Voljka (Volga) Bulgaria. Voljka Bulgaria got destroyed and wiped out by the expanding Horde of Genghis Khan, later transforming into the Golden Horde that also almost wiped out the entirety of the Rus Principalities during the early 1200s.

[@neamnervi]

Bulgars are NOT TURKISH!!! Bulgrs are from Alano-Persian group! And they are about 90% similar to today's Bulgarians!

[@neamnervi]

Your maps are not exact

[@KraliMishev]

Thank you. Finding a good and unbiased video about the Balkans made by brothers usually goes south real fast.

[@chunkychew6995]

Byzantium: *exists The Entire Known World: GANGBANG

[@JoCE2305]

You hate to see it

[@capulet6669]

Sadly true

[@wankawanka3053]

Byzantium :can i get a break ? World around them :no

[@StefanMilo]

Great video man. Really thorough! Your effort really shows.

[@barbaricvm0]

AHH FINALLY THE DAY HAS COME,I CANNOT WAIT TO WATCH THIS. EDIT : I love you,it was worth waiting more then half a year for this video,and you managed to stay perfectly unbiased.Seriously you deserve a fucking medal for this video.

[@filipkralj2618]

7:01 that moment when 2 crazy guys crash the party

[@sokolsrna1048]

true story. Every great europian empire got fucked when that happend.

[@ivanpetkovic2130]

We didn’t crash the party we started it

[@dusandotlic3713]

@@ivanpetkovic2130 preach brother

[@medarismuhibic5335]

@@ivanpetkovic2130 everything was great until two brothers appeared

[@camuscoffee11]

Eeeey there were just late a couple minutes!

[@stjepansalopek8600]

13:48 The reason for the invention of Cyrillic script may not have been the fact that Glagolitic script was not suitable for Old Bulgarian / Old Church Slavonic, since both Glagolitic and Cyrillic script had had pretty much the same letters (for comparison visit en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glagolitic_script#Characteristics ), including the Slavic letters such as "Yat". Perhaps the reason was more the fact that Glagolitic script is more difficult to learn / teach / read. That's not to say that Glagolitic script is worse (but it is more difficult). It is arguably one of the most beautiful scripts, similar to the current Georgian script, and also, a lot of the letters that sound the same, e.g. "G" and "H", also have similar looking letters (Ⰳ and Ⱈ), which is not the case in, for example Latin alphabet.

[@elizaiv]

Dude, I have studied Bulgarian history quite extensively and I still learned new things about our own history, really impressive! Great overview of the region's history, gives great perspective and I love the animations - thank you for the great work!

[@logansheat6720]

Nobody: Alcek: Southern Italy it is!

[@hugo57k91]

Yeah I wonder what happened there

[@MarinKarimov]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celle_di_Bulgheria

[@Alienhos]

There's a statue of Alzek in the small city named after the Bulgarians who settled there

[@mmitak]

Thanks for a great overview! Some details I've pick up for myself over the years I can share for expanded context around what constituted the First Bulgarian state: - The tribe that gave us our Bulgarian name(or at least a tribe by that name) is mentioned in Chinese sources a heck of a long ago in BC times already; that tribe arrived in the moder-ish day lands of Bulgaria with around as little as 100 000 people, 10 000 of them as a cavalry-dominant khan’s army - They integrated with a local populace of ~2-2.5 million people, mostly Slavic tribes but also substantial numbers (maybe up to 40%) are still Thracian tribes and romanized urban populations - It is not exactly clear if that integration was by force or by synergy - Slavic tribes were a predominantly infantry-centered force, and vastly outnumbered the Bulgarians, yet the Bulgarian clans held the succession of titles - Converting to Christianity was a way to both centralize power and unite the populace. The son of Boris when he took over power reverted the change, so old Boris had to step away from the monastery, grab his sword, and have a counter-revolution ending with the blinding of his son.

[@mimisor66]

As I understand, the Slavs had a very welcoming society and easily integrated outsiders. This can explain partially the assimilation of the Romanized Thracians still living there. Plus, after the imposition of Old Slavonic as liturgical language of the local Christian church, this helped Slavic language become the prestige language and slowly replace other languages (slowly, because mentions of the Vlachs, a Romance speaking population, appear for centuries after. In fact, only after the apparition of the independent nation states in late 19th century with their nationalistic policies were they thoroughly assimilated).

[@donjon9853]

It's always a blessing seeing my country Slovenia mentioned anywhere. I know it's corny, but we are always forgotten by everyone.

[@Frosty-ky7ci]

Bruh same for macedonia

[@00opiumm]

@@Frosty-ky7ci maybe because your “country” started existing 5 years ago and has been historically always a part of bulgaria yet now you are descendants of alexander from thousnads of years ago

[@Frosty-ky7ci]

@@00opiumm 5? Try 100 and also it was occupied by you guys but never urs

[@00opiumm]

@@Frosty-ky7ci yes we are facist occupators

[@00opiumm]

@@Frosty-ky7ci we are also tatars and mongols snd gypsies abd turks

[@gaetano_kojj]

I really like your videos, everything is presented very clearly and reasonably. I can see the huge ammount of work you put into this. Keep up the great work. Pozdrowienia z Polski! :)

[@saturnproductions1827]

Proud to be South Slavic

[@kocostamatis3080]

Croats came from WHITE CROATIA (southern poland, czechia and slovakian area including the Karpatian/Harvatian mountains....before that they were known as GREAT CROATIA (Velikaya Horvatiya) along the black sea as stated on the Tanais Plates

[@Annathroy]

As a Croatian I strongly wish we still used the square glagolitic alphabet

[@Dino-hv7rn]

Normalno naše pismo sa se poluduhovno ujedinimo na našim teritorijama i da ovima mamum ono

[@nikolayhmn]

Good stuff, would love a video more focused on Bulgaria

[@hawke8028]

Wow, great video! Very detailed and informative, thanks for your work, you earned yourself a new sub :)

[@bulgariangamingbatlefieldb3177]

I really like your videos because they are accurate and you talk about things we actually learn in school

[@bigger_mibber6029]

@@leckyboy1475 But they are?

[@00opiumm]

@@leckyboy1475 ive seen you comment twice on this video and both times has been about this

[@stefanogattoCH]

your video is great! You cover a period that was totally unknown by me, but actually it helps quite a bit to explain where we stand today. Thank you!

[@dragomiryankov2461]

Great Video...and really accurately presented the Bulgarian part

[@bobantheighty6141]

The truth about Macedonia... There is tons of evidence that almost all the national heroes we have considered to be Macedonians in Republic of Northern Macedonia so far have considered themselves as Bulgarians in one way or another! Even the father of the so called Macedonian nation, philosopher Krustyo Petkov Misirkov is a pure Bulgarian, born in 1926 in Sofia, Kingdom of Bulgaria! He is also often regarded as "the founder of contemporary Macedonian literary language". Gorche Petrov proudly states this in his book "Study Materials about Macedonia". There he writes that the Macedonian population is made up of Bulgarians, Greeks, Turks, Arnauts, Roma and Vlachs, but the Serbs are not mentioned anywhere! All this is described in detail in a literary Bulgarian language in a book with over 700 pages in 1896. The motto of all Bulgarians from the Macedonian region has always been only one ... 🦁FREEDOM OR DEATH🦁

[@spiritwildfiregaming1975]

@@bobantheighty6141 Actually, in Bulgaria we even joke by calling it "Macedonia Bulgarian (Македония Българска)" Some people that are more serious about history are kinda...pissed at you, but most of us just joke. No offense intended, of course.

[@ВенелинД]

@@leckyboy1475 македония е българска.

[@jordan9339]

@@leckyboy1475 Maybe that's because my grand grandfather is from Stip, and my other grand grand father is from Drama region in Greece, which is also Macedonia. And that applies to at least 1/3 of Bulgarian people, because we had close to 1 million refugees after the Balkan Wars and First World War from Aegean and Vardar Macedonia. At that time Bulgaria was less than 4 million. And that is one thing that was hidden for you for many years. Among many other things.

[@camuscoffee11]

Ah, Bulgarians, the people who assimilated their own conquerors, also took their Turkic name but didn't give a single fuck like a boss lol

[@wenqiweiabcd]

7:05 Aww, they come to the Balkans holding hands. They are going to make such peaceful neighbours.

[@mamaluigi1438]

Some time later...

[@rbereee]

@Јован Јованчевић lol

[@Awakeningspirit20]

They were the two young bucks who grew up together and thought they'd be best friends forever, think of all the conquering and the wars and the women we will get together!... and then they grow old and turn into the fiercest and worst of enemies. So tragic.

[@MrMadRade]

We have still a love hate relation. In open there is anymosity, but in the background we sit together in kafana and enjoy eacb other differences and similarities

[@Svevladovich]

Most of Croats and Serbs hang out besides politics and trying to push bad history and habits away. Hope our future to be better.

[@keeganmoonshine7183]

wow you are the first person I've ever seen mention that part about one of the brothers taking his people to modern-day macedonia. very interesting to think about. Always assumed that the Bulgarian migration occurred after this time period when Bulgaria was more established and migrants started to move south.

[@IK-so2bm]

One of the brothers settled in today's Italy, hence you have last names such as Bulgaro, Bulgari, Bulgarini, Bulgarelli, etc. and a town in central Italy called Bulgare.

[@00opiumm]

Yeah and macedonians still claim to be descendants of alexander

[@chriskechagias5360]

@@00opiumm thanks for your comment xD

[@jozejerse6777]

Good representation of Slovenia. Even Slovenes rarely know of the fact that we have common roots with Czechs and Slovaks. Even though we no longer share national or cultural border, we still have more in common that with our southern neighbours.

[@andreman2767]

Anyway all slavs share a lot of common stuff

[@Svevladovich]

@Washing Machine Mine from Czechia.

[@kristijangrgic9841]

Actualy that is not true. Its just projecting modern ideas into ancient past. At the time of settlement all Slavs spoke same language. Languages separated only after the migrations. This is why Serbs from Balkans speak similar language to Croats and Slovenes and Bulgars too while Sorbs from Germany have two languages of which one is more simialar to Polish and other to Czech. Both groups are Serbs but have split during migrations and their language had similar evolution to their neighbouring Slavic tribes.

[@panikwe]

Very good video! Greetings from Slovenia!

[@antegelo8809]

Actually this is a good video dude

[@Bra1nSicK]

Good and accurate video! Keep up the good work and greetings from Bulgaria! :)

[@velislavlonev196]

You did your homework bro, thats a hard history to follow good job.

[@np4653]

United we stand, divided we fall.

[@kauemoura]

Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Montenegro make me think a bit of the Catholic and Protestant Irish. ~Look, we're the same people, our ancestors decided that this tiny difference between us was a reason for us kill each other, so we kept on disliking each other because we've harmed each other in the past.

[@hladanbeton3974]

But the Troubles ended up working out brilliantly for Ireland, unlike our trashy system of banana-republics

[@TS-zs4un]

Probably we are not the same people and we have never disliked each other through out the whole history just up until recently, Germanic people are much wilder and aggressive but they were on the right side of the history so because of their interest and interests of the other major powers it was convenient to stick that label of primitive tribes fighting each other to the Balkan people although that couldn't be far away from the truth

[@abpast5319]

We have difrent r1a subclades of slavic haplogrups so no

[@David_Sikalo]

Well before the ottomans fucked it all up for us

[@jangelbrich7056]

Thanks for not only painting these maps, but also mentioning what information sources we have, and which we dont have. Also, using the geographic map as underlying base is a very good idea!

[@kristianangelov3719]

by accident I found ur channel, with the very first video, you won a subscriber. the way u showed the information is remarkable - very distinctly and accurate, subaltern on facts, no sci-fi, straight on the point.

[@darkopenovski9618]

Love your channel. Greeings from Sirmium!

[@bbpoisonn]

Can we just stop arguing about macedonia? Even though it’s my home country I do not want to argue any more. Why should we hate each other when we are basically the same? Glory to all Slav countries.

[@utvara1]

Only Greeks, Bulgarians and Serbians dispute you. Greeting from Croatia.

[@Белослава-т5х]

Няма смисъл и да спориш, защото всичко в македонската Уикипедия и учебници са лъжи, пропаганда и манипулации...

[@JD-vi7pk]

Няма смисъл от цялата омраза

[@georgitemelkov9995]

Cuz you are trying to steal our own herritage ! Greetings from Bulgaria and do you like our no for EU ?

[@bbpoisonn]

Stomio ah yes and what happened to the ancient macedonians that lived there once the Slavs came? They just disappeared without a trace of course

[@bonefex3000]

Good job on the research. As a Bulgarian that is studying currently advanced History of the Balkans I can confirm that most of this is correct keep up the good work.

[@bonefex3000]

@Solve Everything at the time christianity was key The Russians also Turned Christian from Bisantium And also when we were Christian we were at the peak of our powers

[@affentaktik2810]

Red Fox Emperor if you are studying it can you please tell me why or for how long cyril and his brother were exiled in moravia?

[@Dian_Borisov_SW]

Do you agree that the bulgar nomads were of turkic descent? There are many theories and very little evidence

[@bonefex3000]

@@Dian_Borisov_SW I cannot say for sure since I haven't looked that much into it. But most dynastic clues will lead to Kubrat who was partially turkik in decent. Unfortunately the Bulgars were nomadic trybes that moved across several lands, but they do have traits like pony tails and horse riding much like the later Mongol tribes.

[@bonefex3000]

@@affentaktik2810 That can very depending on who you ask. We wouldn't have many accounts from back then because writing was still not practiced by many

[@maldito_sudaka]

8:17 my family comes from the Veneto region of Italy, so learning about the neighbouring Slovenia and its origins is awesome. This is a great video, it's so hard to understand the ethnic and linguistic history of the Balkans! this helps a lot, thanks

[@godofthegreatkurultaj4302]

A video about the avars would be great. Really liked this video

[@tomorkaralliu5282]

Check Bavaria the only name in Europe that has as a root the word Avar. I know the helens say that Albanians are of avarian origin ,and is true that in albania the last name avari exist but that should not confuse us, the name alba, or arvani or arber cannot arrive from the root avar.

[@raritica8409]

Southern Slavs are so cool to me, love from an Eastern Slav!

[@ivanemilov522]

Great, accurate and unbiased video great job and greetings from Bulgaria!

[@damianmatras8568]

I love your animation skills. And I love the use of very detailed map, very very detailed map with detail rivers and mountain heights showed in colours; with such map you can see different layers of history.

[@BalkanMode]

The big picture I gathered from this video is: The Byzantines clashed with the invading Avars and the main beneficiaries turned out to be the other invading group, the Slavs. It almost sounds like a leaderless mass was given a free pass into Byzantine territory without any battle.

[@ХристоПавлов-э4ь]

Awesome video! I wish you do make a video about the bulgarian history . Keep it going !

[@SasafrasYT]

what boris the first did sounds like its strait out of one of the crusader kings games

[@warlord970]

Great video :) Thank you for mentioning the situation of us Slovenes and explaining it in a bigger detail.

[@99Boiko]

Nice avetar. If I am not mistaken that was the Slovene flag while part of the SFRJ (looking at the tricolour formation).

[@warlord970]

@@99Boiko Thanks. You are correct, this is the flag of SR Slovenia.

[@99Boiko]

@@warlord970 Good man! All Slavs be praised! :)

[@Luke-ft3xd]

The language called "Serbo-Croatian" didn't exist until the 19. century when Croats and Serbs under the banner of pan-slavism created a standard language based on the Eastern Herzegovian and Dubrovnik dialects for their future Yugoslav state. I would argue that modern standard versions of Serbian and Croatian are how each country now calls that language (also sometimes called Bosnian or Montenegrin in their respective countries). First written documents of Croatian in the littoral part (Dalmatia) are based on what's today called The Chakavian Dialects which can be mostly unintelligible with normal Serbo-Croatian, same with it's cousin group Kajkavian in Pannonian Croatia which is the closest dialect group to Slovenian and even shares some underlying similarities with Slovak due to it's proximity and late magyarisation of West Pannonian Slavs which probably formed one of the last bridges between West and South Slavs. These two Croatian dialect groups covered a much wider area of early Croatia if not almost it's entirety. Just like it was mentioned in the video, there was a Slavic dialect continuum from Carinthia to Thrace. In the later medieval period as Slavic languages (or dialects) solidified the further you went from one Slavic settlement to another the harder it was for the two to understand each other. Although after that the natural continuum was broken by the Ottoman expansions which forced a lot of southern groups northwards.

[@skule7760]

sadly the video didn't go far enough for us to learn how bosnia came to be but still a lovely video about my people and our history!! And ofc i hope you make a part 2 of some sort , i would love that , the slavic history is rarely covered here on youtube

[@Kafchuga]

Well judging by what Ive learned,what this video shows and Bosnia's area of birth witch is around the river of Bosna im guessing that other settled south slavic tribes(not serb or croat) and mixed remnants of germanic, avaric, latin, greek and lliryan population gave birth to this duchy.

[@LordOfCookies123]

I always thought Bosnia is a meme country declared through some American grapevine for some strategic reason after they broke up the old country. Can easily see it as basis for further conflict.

[@goranvuksa1220]

@@Kafchuga That's very unlikely. Before the Ottoman invasion and forced Islamization, Bosnians were always considered as Serbs. The best example would be that the first king of Bosnia, King Tvrtko I Kotromanić had a title "King of Serbs" although his territorial rule was over entire Bosnia, Hum and parts of Dalmatia. If there were other people under his rule, he would have included them in his title without a doubt. Today's Bosnia consists of Croats, Boshniaks and Serbs, but Boshniaks are just Islamized Serbs, there are numerous historical references to confirm this fact. Also, this video makes a lot of modern false assumptions. For example, "Serbo-Croatian" language is a very modern and very absurd idea. Croatian language, dialect of the South Slavic, is Čajkavica, while Serbian is Štokavica. Serbo-Croatian is only Štokavica, meaning only Serbian, which is a digraphic language, and this was used to create a false separation to Serbian and Croatian as part of the nationalistic and political struggles. However, Croatian language is still used in parts of Croatia, although their official language is Serbian, they just call it Croatian, same as in N. Macedonia, Montenegro and Bosnia, although after the wars of the 1990 they had all renamed the language by the names of these new-founded countries. With these modern assumptions, many errors arise. The first well recorded history of the Serbs is that of the Nemanjić dynasty (they are the center of modern Serbian national identity). Yet they originate from Zeta region/tribe and only after they had united multiple regions and tribes, combined they call themselves Serbs. Also, there is no separate historical record of a single Serbian tribe, this name us always used for larger groups of South Slavic tribes, unlike ex. Croats or Moravians, implying that Serbs are not a single tribe but a group of South Slavic tribes. This further is supported by historians like Mavro Orbini, who for example puts Croatian insignia grouped as part of insignias under the Nemanjić Serbian insignia.

[@goranvuksa1220]

@@storymatters7309 I have noticed that way too many people now days miss the difference between region and ethnicity. In middle ages (and before) there was no concept of national state, and people of the same ethnicity were separated in multiple countries/regions that were even often in war with one another. Bosnia was not named by Bosnian people, but by river Bona. Not even today there is a specific Bosnian nation/ethnicity, but Bosnia is a country of three constitutional people: Serbs, Croats and Bošnjaks (named themselves like that in 1993, before just called Muslims). So it is very difficult to say someone was Bosnian. Of course he was Bosnian, but then the founder of Serbian Nemanjić dynasty (from which was that Serbian prices you mentioned) was Zettan (or whatever the English term for people from Zeta is), and later Serbian rulers from the same dynasty were Rasians (people from Raška) and later Macedonians, since these were the lands where they were born and lived. On this same way you could argue that Normans are not French or Bavarians are not German, or that Alexander of Macedonia was not Greek (Helen), or that I am not Serb because I would always proudly call myself Dalmatian. But there was no mention of Tvrtko being the King of Bosnians. His title was "King of Serbs, Bosnia, Costal lands and Hum". If he had ruled over some Bosnian group of people he would make sure to include it in his title. Further more, it is not true that there was a missing hair, Mrnjavčević dynasty was set to replace Nemanjić dynasty and last Serbian tzar Uroš had named Marko Mrnjavčević a young king and gave him a right of succession. Also, there was prince Lazar, who was actually crowned tzar by the patriarch, but was challenged by Tvrtko. Also, Tvrtko did not assert himself as king because "his grandparents from his mother side were Serbs", but because they were from the Nemanjić royal dynasty, which gave him a right of succession. Bosnian bans were very powerful since Kulin Ban, which gave them a lot of de facto independence and sovereignty but they were sill bans, and that's one of the lowest titles that is a title of local lords that are under the rule of some other prince/king/tzar.

[@goranvuksa1220]

@@storymatters7309 yes, Bosnian LAND. Just as I had said, as his title says. King of Serbs (people), Bosnia (land), etc.. You have confirmed exacly what I have said. You must take everything in the context, not cherry pick fragments to try to prove a point. Ex, "POVELJA DUBROVČANIMA 1378" To be in Christ Jesus faithful and by God apointed Stephan (Serbian Nemanjić dynasty name), King of Serbs (people) and Bosnia and... (his lands). And then I had started my reighn with God and rebuild the trone of Serbia (here he directly puts Bosnia as a land in Serbia) with wish to erect what was fallen and streighten what was damaged.

[@colincbatch]

I can't wait for your later histories of the Slavs! Молодец!

[@dios1ish868]

This is really e good video that shows the migration of Slavs into the Balkan or Illyrian Peninsula.

[@elite2952]

for an english speaking guy, you are very good at saying Bulgarian names. Normally our languange is hard.

[@zvaramartin]

He is Slovakian

[@elite2952]

@@zvaramartin english speaking

[@boristzakov5706]

The author, many errors in the English text.

[@northernstar4811]

In 925 AD Croatia was recognised as a Kingdom by the Pope in Rome. In 925 AD Croatia had a common border with Bulgaria on the Drina river. At that time "Raska" (now called Serbia) was a region of Bulgaria ruled by Simeon I of Bulgaria.

[@dododimitrov9657]

It is an irony that our Macedonians friends call us Tatars, but they share same heritage when it comes to the indo-european tribes.

[@miseee007]

Not all us Macedonians call you Tatars just a minority like you have a probably a minority of people that calls us Bulgars and thats like Croatian telling to a Serbian that he is Croatioan, its just offensive and provocative. We have thousands of folklore songs and stories how brothers were forced to fight brothers, We share a lot of history but we dont like being infringed on our identity which we have spilled blood for. But i have to admit even tho i am Macedonian we were conquered and reconquered for many times and our history got lost and now there are many uneducated and angry Macedonians who are living in a grand delusion state thinking God is from Maccedonia and everyone else like we are the center of the world.. which is very stupid.. but you have to understand we were brainwashed by soo much Greek, Serbian and Bulgarian propaganda that led us to this point.

[@R3AktoRMacedonia]

Nah, we're just trolling because you're getting triggered

[@miseee007]

Then you must be very dumb, or didnt read or understood my comment.

[@JD-vi7pk]

Once a friend from Macedonia told me(I'm Bulgarian): We're just one nation, but two countries.

[@IK-so2bm]

@@miseee007 One thing is quite obvious that Bulgarian and Macedonian languages are IDENTICAL.

[@pepperVenge]

Great video! Such detail. I really enjoyed this!

[@zmajooov]

15:54 A-HA! NOW WE FINALLY KNOW WHO STARTED THE WAR! -edit It's amazing how your video is unbiased, easiest sub ever, keep up the good work!

[@sokolsrna1048]

hahaha. Yes. We are sorry for that. For fuck sake we killed him when he got back. Dont belive its bcs of Franks told us shit. My grandpa told me "we killed him for what he did to Serbs" . True story. Ur right. We know we were assholes trough all the history. But its those damn germans and romans... They told us DO IT.. IT WILL BE FUN THEY SAID. But u got your revange in 1990's...U destroyed our country, killed our people.. Yeaaa u did lose war at the end... But u didint want to win it realy, u just had to take ur revange , and enjoy some time.

[@indjijatsararmy]

Hahahahahahahahahaha Exactly, First Blood. Dick move though for anyone.

[@vherox3826]

Werent you liberated by croatia after bulgaria conquared you. Come on we were best friends in the middle ages.

[@TotilaTheGoth]

@@vherox3826 Nope. Časlav liberated Serbia after a short Bulgarian occupation as well as Serb lands that were occupied by the Croats in the aftermath of Bulgarian conquest of Serbia.

[@damjanfilipovski5256]

Wow keep up the good work, great vid :)

[@DakuHonoo]

now I want to play a map game, incorporating slovenia into a wendish empire ... i'm thinking eu4

[@DakuHonoo]

yeah but i haven't played ck2 yet, i'll give it a try over the weekend, however i've seen part of your AH hoi4 game after this one and decided to play that because i didn't like something you did

[@HistoryandOtherStuffwithBV]

Maybe a mod for EU4 that starts at an earlier date?

[@HistoryandOtherStuffwithBV]

+M.Laser True. But then again, there are mods to some video games that have so much work put into them that they actually make, if not a good, then at least a decent enough representation of an age before the game for which the mod was made originally is set in. (I could barely wrap around the last sentence, so I wouldn't be surprised if you couldn't understand it correctly or at all).

Ajde dajte pričat ,govoriti po balkanski bre :) Kje je Karantanija? Slovenija?

[@HistoryandOtherStuffwithBV]

+Miran poredoš Da. Te djelovi današnje Austrije, takođe.

[@bookwyrm4559]

Absolutely phenomenal video

[@puppy5463]

Great video! Its was surprisingly well actually! One of the best videos on this subject, good job!

[@runegold321]

Really good video, my man! Great job, keep it up!

[@yeste9437]

i do not belive it i found one civilized discusion in comment section about origins is this real live

[@yeste9437]

its just sad how most of us can understand each other but still fight over something they dont understand i mean most of the people fighting in comments were not even born in the 90s

[@arsenvarelis2676]

especially about balakans

[@hippityhop9522]

Also you forgot to mention Croatian-Bulgarian Wars in which Croatia gained a lot and Raška(aka Serbia) became Byzantine vasal. Byzantine empire sent gifts and land consessions to Croatian Kingdom (Byzantines gave islands in Dalmatia, scepter and a crown to Croat king).

[@NomenNescioRR]

Ne moze da pomene nesto sto se nikada nije desilo .Posalji nam Romejski izvor tvoje tvrdnje ,posto su Romeji sve evidentirali .

[@shannonkhors]

ahahahhaha

[@ML-zg9im]

@@NomenNescioRR en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Dr%C5%BEislav "During Byzantine emperor Basil II's war against Tsar Samuil of Bulgaria who in his conquest became neighbor of Croatia, Stephen Držislav actively allied with the Byzantines.[1][4] After Basil managed to defend every single Adriatic coastal city during Samuil's rampage towards Zadar in 986, the cities were returned to Croatian control. In an effort to compensate and award Držislav for his alliance, the Eastern Roman Emperor between 986 and 990 named Stephen Držislav Patriarch and an Exarch of Dalmatia, which gave him formal authority over the Theme of Dalmatia (but some historians believe not over the Dalmatian city-states).[1][4] According to Thomas the Archdeacon, Stephen Držislav received royal insignia and the titles as an act of recognition from the Byzantine Emperor,[4][5] becoming reges Dalmatie et Chroatie and his descendants having the same titles."

[@MiljanGacevic]

😂😂😂

[@TheFiddle101]

Superb presentation. Thank you.

[@Richardrbhs]

Thank you so much for your work in putting these videos together.... I have learned a great deal and look forward to more of your videos Again thank you

[@ctiradperunovic]

In the Czech Republic, we have a legend that also appears in Croatia. According to legend, two Slavic rullers named Čech (Czech) and Chorvat (Hrvat) settled somewhere in the Pannonia region. But something happened between their tribes, most likely a murder, and both of them were forced to leave with their tribes. Čech went north and the Chorvat went south, and according to legend, the foundations of the future Czech and Croatian nations were created. It's just a legend, but I think it's a personification of the migration of Slavic tribes, so there may be something to it. Posílám pozdrav našim jihoslovanským bratrům!

[@Dino-hv7rn]

Hood story part of our miths. Slava rodu

[@Matt_Silverwolf]

I have learned more about the history of my country from a 19 min youtube video than I have from 4 years of history class in school

[@pivo2k]

How did I live without this channel? 🤩👍👏

[@Blalack77]

These are the places I'm most curious about and would most like to visit - along with Anatolia and the -stan countries. They're fascinating to me since they're kind of like border areas between multiple cultures - at least historically.

[@iliabrus434]

Brilliant video man

[@colincbatch]

Laser, You are great! What detail! Fantastic story/history telling! вообще отлично! я поражён! великолепно!

[@josipavurnek5988]

It is really interesting how in this region for every bigger war fighting ditches were dug not anywhere else but directly almost always on historical sites. Vučedol was completely dug in war. And he was almost like the Paris of the Neolithic.

[@alexboskov6063]

Serbs first arrived in Bosnia and Montenegro and western Serbia, rather than Belgrade

[@georgikolev6598]

Sure, Belgrade was actually founded by the Old Bulgarians, and nowadays Serbia was just a province of Bulgaria for centuries.

[@alexboskov6063]

@@georgikolev6598 Correct, essentially

[@intel386DX]

thanks for the great history video :)

[@comradeerror6004]

Is this a video without Balkan people fighting much in the comments? (Mostly because 80-90% of this video is correct.)

[@levilainpetitfanfoue]

thanks for your work. it's amazing,

[@armincal9834]

The Iranian influence is visible in some of the names mentioned in this video. Asparukh sounds very Iranian, even Persian as even today asb means horse and rukh could eigher mean face or some sort of miss-pronounciashion of rakhsh which means "lightning or spark", considering that the Bulgar's were nomadic people we can assume that horses played a HUGE role in their society so naming your child after horses would be reasonable. Like "man with a horse as bright as lightning". Also Avars, Avare in modern Persian means "homeless immigrant" like war immigrants or immigrants who's entire city got destroyed by an earthquake, considering that they were nomads it would be reasonable to assume that avare was a pejorarive term used by persians to call them and then the romans also called them by the Persian name and the name stuck, also them signing an alliance with Persia vs Rome could possibly mean that they were somehow related and were aware of that. Everything i have said is just speculation.

[@utvara1]

Aryan Erian Eran Iran

[@letnjiznoj]

I think I heard that when slavs were still in their original place a Persian tribe (or just from iran, I'm not sure) migrated to where the slavs were and that's the reason slavs pull a resemblance to iranians and have similar words

[@gabork5055]

@@letnjiznoj Could be the Jász people who also arrived in Hungary much later. Who were also apparently in Romania since there's also a place called Iasi after them. They are relatives of Ossetians and the Jats in India though pretty distant relatives at this point.

[@canadiansyrup50]

The Balkans and around are like a family. Serbia and Croatia are the parents, Slovenia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Macedonia are children, while Bulgaria is a cousin. Serbia - A dad who was often drunk, and assaulted his kids and wife, while now he is normal, improves his wage and wants to improve relations with his family who hates him. Croatia - Very hot, married to Serbia, but was seen hooking up with Germany and other EU members while Serbia was drinking. Now she stays with the family, and goes often to work in the city(EU). Slovenia - The oldest child, he went young to the city (EU) and visits his family in the rural areas once in a week. Bosnia (Bosniaks) - While Serbia was drinking, he also hooked up others without noticing. He hooked up with Ottomans and made Bosnia. Now Bosnia wants kinda to move to Turkeys house but can't. Bosnia (Serbians and Croatians) - Serbia and Croatia adopted two more children - Republic of Srpska and Herzeg-Bosnia. Srpska wants to be like dad, and Herzeg-Bosnia like his mom. Montenegro - The lazy elderly son/daughter. Macedonia - Macedonia is the child who hated Bulgarians (its dad), so it went for adoption. It was adopted by the Yugoslavia family, but it kinda regrets it. Dome DNA tests show it is connected to Serbia and Albania too. Bulgaria - The cousin of Serbia (from Russia's line). They argue about land, argue about the Macedonia thing, but now don't care about anything. Kosovo - Serbia hooked up with Albania too. Both want it. Vojvodina - A child of Serbia, who has more than 3/4 Serbian genes, a bit of Hungarian genes, and others are just random. Albania - A stranger Serbia had sex with while drunk. Bad move. Greece - Serbia saw a person in church, and they started talking really much. Now they are best friends. Serbia visits Greece every summer, and helps a bit with money. Cyprus - Greece brother Romania - Just like Greece, the only thing is that Romania wants to join the family for some reason. Hungary - A stranger Austria - Is where Slovenia and Croatia work. Kinda a distant cousin with Croatia. Italy - They are related to Romania. They always wanted to steal Slovenia and possibly Croatia from the family. Moldova - Romania's sister Ukraine - Russia's little brother who hates his elder one so much. Turkey - A stranger, who wanted to kidnap all of the Balkans, but ended up having sex with Serbia, and had sex with Albania for a short period, before they went on their ways.

[@zmajooov]

@Epiri Cham You mean USA gave the D to Serbia because Albania was so good at giving BJs it wanted some for itself ;)

[@canadiansyrup50]

Epiri Cham How did it give the D, when Serbia is male? That means Albania is gay

[@canadiansyrup50]

I love how much controversy this message gives

[@djordjepenezic8087]

Hahaha yes man that is true

[@vasyltroeff7420]

lol :Dd

[@achelnokov]

grear job mate, keep it up

[@brostoevsky22]

Informative and highly interesting. Спасибо большое!

[@innosanto]

Man great work!! Kudos!

[@scottwilson8499]

This is my summary of all of the slavic nations (please don't take offence) West slavs- very peaceful, they all get along well and have little to no drama between them. East slavs- theres some dysfunction between them, Ukraine and Russia is fighting over Crimea while belarus is Russia's sidekick however nothing too crazy South slavs- absolute chaos, its really dysfunctional everyone hates eachother, Bosniaks serbs and croats are constantly screaming and beating the crap out of eachother. Montenegro just sleeps alot. Macedonia is arguing with Greece and Bulgaria while having an identity crisis, Bulgaria is trying to tell Macedonia that they're just confused Bulgarians and don't have hellenistic roots and Slovenia is the rich snobby arrogant one that sits in his mansion and likes to drink wine and looks down on the other south slavs

[@pyroshrimp4073]

You forgot bulgaria screaming and trying to stretch from the 3 seas, and Macedonia being the laughing stock of the balkans

[@z000ey]

Well, there is one (unfortunate) major difference between the three groups, namely the faith: while West Slavs were all Catholics, and Eastern Slavs Orthodox, the Southern Slavs got the limes of the Great Schism right across their peoples, which was later followed by a crippling new faith limes - that of Islam and Christianity. The organized religion used a divide et impera policy which last even today.

[@simonspajzer]

Slovenia is also the youngest

[@georgikolev6598]

@@pyroshrimp4073 No more stretching, we did that more than enough 10-12 centuries ago and we are wiser now. Now N. Macedonians make that mistake trying to scream and stretch but mostly for time and history, cause that's what they need badly... ;)

[@walterwolf1459]

You buddy never saw reality! Don't be leaded by news and politics. Believe me in reality is much more different and positive.

[@silentone11111111]

Great vid. That was really complicated 😀

[@aleksk4151]

What about the Second Bulgarian empire ? NIce video !

[@BGgungame]

I'm guessing he omitted it because the video was more about early history of the Slavs, rather than the whole history of the region..

[@daniivanov6923]

better no wars

[@leopoldivesic4872]

Very informative and useful thank you