Early East Slavic History

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0:27 I am showing the Huns, Finno-Ugric Tribes, Avars and Bulgars, even though there where many more tribes that where in the area at one point or another.
2:12 The Volga Bulgars and Magyars where also vassals of the Khazars at this point.
2:53 The map of different Slavic tribes may well be inaccurate because we have only the Novgorod writings to work with and therefor we can't really pinpoint an exact map of all the different Slavic ethnic groups and where they lived. We just know they existed.
3:53 You may also find some writings where confused authors would use the word Rus' and Varangians interchangeably.
4:04 I actually meant to say crucible steel not Damascus steel as the ulfberht swords never actually where true crucible steel. They where sometimes considered as pattern welded "false Damascus" steel which is a form of crucible steel but isn't actually true Damascus steel.
8:34 It also may have been that Rurik was just a descended of one of the many Varangian chieftains that existed in the area, who than manage to conquer all the other smaller chieftains.
9:00 However he most likely conquered most of the Rus' northern lands before his death.
9:15 I show the Khazars having full control of the area between the years 882 to 912 but this wasn't completely true as the nomadic tribe that would replace them later the Pechenegs already had established a hold on the Khazar Northern lands.
9:19 Oleg also set off on few raiding expeditions and also allegedly besieged Constantinople.
9:41 There are many more interpretations of when Oleg lived, died and what happened during that time but this one seemed to most likely to me.
9:52 And also in to the Khazar lands.
10:12 Laws regarding to collecting tributes, most likely connected to the fact that her husband died while doing that.
10:34 The Pechenegs allied with the Rus' and helped them conquer the Khazars and that is why they where able to establish them self in the lower Ukraine region after the Khazar destruction.
12:25 Vladimir actually conquered Kiev from which Yaropolk ran away. It was while on this run Vladimir killed his brother.
13:09 As told to us through the primary chronicle so whether he actually said it or not we may never no.
#History #Slavs #Rus' #Russian #Ukraine #Belarus

[@joeblack5393]

Vladimir didnt pick Orthodoxy because "churches were lavish", he did so because he first considered Catholicism and concluded that Pope meddled too much in the state business, whereas the Orthodox clergy was perfectly happy to mind their own business as long as they had their privileges.

[@tonuka6257]

Still makes for a funny story

[@joeblack5393]

@@thehammerite9437 Sure there was, just wasnt official yet. But Byzantine and Roman rites were absolutely rivals and competing to convert still pagan realms.

[@ze_baronkrigler7611]

Thank you, That triggered me as an Orthodox and Rus' History Enjoyer (idk what to say but you understand what I mean)

[@taherbertolinirodrigues9104]

Also, in orthodoxy, the religious head of a country is picked by that country’s ruler, which is another power grab from the main head of power

[@georgekashuba1656]

Volodymyr is correct spelling.

[@UsefulCharts]

Very nice. I was doing some research into the early Rurik Dynasty awhile back in preparation for the big Eastern European Royal family tree I'm doing later this year and this helps put things in perspective. Your channel is great because most history channels focus primarily on Western Europe.

[@UsefulCharts]

@@MLaserHistory My usual way of handling such things is to go with the best guess and then throw in a question mark 😀

[@rudolfkraffzick642]

No, not so nice. A LOT OF MAPS ARE INACCURATE. Balts settled around 1000 far more to the east and Finno- Ugrians to the south. Please, no eastern slavs nationalism.

[@silentone11111111]

We need more stuff on central and Eastern Europe. It’s stuff we don’t get in school. Generally if it’s not about England or classical stuff it’s like it never happened. So good work 😀

[@gots0359]

bro you must be american or something. Even I from Asia have learned general history of central/eastern/also US itself just because our education minister thinks it's vital and I agree. Like wtf are you even from

[@silentone11111111]

@@gots0359 UK. So they teach you history, but not how to not be rude. Bro. Maybe work on that English grammar of yours. It needs some work.

[@gots0359]

@@silentone11111111 my bad for not knowing my third language on a perfect level grammar bro. Plus i wasnt rude i was just amazed by how your minstery of education treats you. Like how come you don't even learn anything outside of england lol

[@garrettallen7427]

Interviewer: so tell me Vladimir of Novgorod, why did you convert to Orthodox Christianity? Vladimir: Well I don’t like being not drunk so that left Islam out of the question. I was thinking about Judaism but the fact that its followers couldn’t hold Jerusalem reminded me too much of Sviatoslavs’ recent holdings being taken from him. Then I thought, why not Christianity? But then I needed to decide which one. I took one look at an Orthodox Church and was instantly captivated! I took another look at a Catholic Church and knew which religion I wanted to practice. Interviewer: .............ok

[@kolemjdouciturista1446]

I still cant belive that something so important was decide by one man and his feeling... Trust me my subjects I know what is good for you.

[@romanpopyk]

I think he decided to take Christianity because Byzantium was their main trade partner and a lot of Slavs(Bolgars and Serbs) already had been converted to it

[@krisskross3076]

@n. фффвär eat drink man woman foreskin ...all those matters, if you design a Religion you better keep that in mind

[@dmitriygryaznov9210]

@@argumentativelysound2001 As far as I read (from Russian sources, so chance of bias) first he decided to take Eastern Christianity, then he thought being asked to be converted is better from a political standpoint, and so decided to go through with the marriage. And I prefer readings where Eastern Christianity was the cause of the marriage due to the former having quite a lot of other reasons (strong trade connections to Byzantine Empire, Eastern Clergy being subject to local authorities unlike their Western counterpart, etc.)

[@dmitriygryaznov9210]

@@argumentativelysound2001 My comment may be slightly off-mark because I am not %100 sure I understood yours. I find your reading of the situation unconvincing; Helga was a Christian but failed to convert even her son Svyatoslav (Vladimir's father), who cited being afraid of losing respect with his troops and ended up fighting a war with the Byzantines. In this context, Vladimir sending delegations to other countries looks like making sure that a possible choice of religion would be supported by his nobles, whose help he'd later use in Christianization of the rest of the country (while Helga had previously been content with being Christian ruler of a Pagan country). The marriage looks like part of a wider trend and giving it precedence is weird. I am not even mentioning that Povest' asserts 987 as the year of the boyar council where Vladimir decided to accept Christianity (because Povest' is not %100 reliable).

[@jacondo2731]

this is the easiest and simplest explanation thanks man.

[@jacondo2731]

@@MLaserHistory you responded thanks mate

[@gdjulianscrib3838]

Yes

[@reds.victim1023]

"Drinking is the joy of all the Rus'." Classic.

[@user-fl5pd6ts9x]

It's was saying in 16 cetery. In Kievan Rus people not drink so much

[@wielkapol9469]

vodka comes from poland

[@ze_baronkrigler7611]

Yes, Thats one of the reasons they didn't want to be islamic

[@wielkapol9469]

@@ze_baronkrigler7611 christians arnt meant to drink either

[@ze_baronkrigler7611]

@@wielkapol9469 Thats straight up wrong

[@anderslniemi]

This is a great addition to one of my favorite series ever! Thank you!

[@csbanki]

I love how every ruler becomes a saint after their conversion to christianity :D Again great video, I don't think I've ever learned about a huge slavic empire in the east, that's pretty interesting!

[@eypandabear7483]

The way the Slavs adopted the Rus’ name is interesting. It’s similar to the Romano-Celtic people of Gaul becoming the “French”, isn’t it?

[@MLaserHistory]

I mean it is interesting but not unusual. Name is just a meaningless word unless someone gives it meaning. That meaning can be altered and changed and as such names can be abandoned or adopted very easily. That is why many societies have names that they identify with very strongly that, in etymological terms, don't come from their current language family.

[@rty3751]

It's the same as the Ukrainia got their name from the Russians Okraina - an outskirts.

[@olgert3551]

@@rty3751 No, it's more like Vkraina - which means country in our language. So our country name is like supreme version of word - homeland

[@amalekh]

@@olgert3551 cope

[@nesirosern8596]

@@olgert3551 Yeah, right 😂😂😂😂

[@anonymousbloke1]

Rurik's first town was indeed Staraya Ladoga later pictured in your map, not Novgorod. Novgorod was founded a century/century and a half later, more or less

[@Dexusaz]

Slavic history is very underrated, great video!

[@lifeiscreepingdeath]

Bell Witch!!!

[@klearkhoswashokani1797]

those videos are seriously underrated with such an effort in them

[@TheSto400]

Your videos on early slavic history are amongst my favourite on youtube. Three suggestions for future videos: 1) Medieval Bulgaria 2) Medieval Serbia 3) Ottoman conquest of the Balkans

[@HistoryHustle]

Very interesting video. Haven't studies much about early slavic history!

[@keeganmoonshine7183]

I am shocked this is the first time I'm seeing your videos. You're really good. subscribed

[@hexapodc.1973]

Very nice, you really need more subs man. Your videos are amazing.

[@MikeHaggarKJ]

Your videos are extremely good and I love watching them.

[@aryanyadav633]

You make very impressive videos. Keep it up!

[@cathyg8825]

This is the best video you ever made !

[@NihilsineDeo1866.]

Hi im new here and you channel is nice.

[@AnthonyConstable]

Excellent video! Thank you!

[@tereziamarkova2822]

As far as I know, the whole "Vladimir rejected islam because of the ban on drinking" is mostly a legend, Vladimir's main motivation appears to be the growing closeness of the Kievan Rus' to Byzantine Empire, which was their most important trade partner and biggest, most developed regional power. Building ties with them really made the most sense.

[@Name-og4th]

Saint Vladzimir was also a rapist. One of his victims was Belarusian princess Rahnieda of Połack.

[@tereziamarkova2822]

@@Name-og4th Trying to be shocked over here that a 10th century warlord would kill a man for slighting him and forcibly marry his daughter, but somehow I can't muster the outrage. I mean, it's a horrible story, but not something I wouldn't expect from one of the descendants of the goddamn Olga of Kiev. (For the record, I am not really Christian, so the title of "saint" doesn't hold much moral weight for me, unless it's really given for being exceptionally charitable, as opposed to, say, being the ruler that forced their people to get baptized.)

[@PaveLiki]

Awesome video, thanks for your work.

[@williamkartatar4759]

Good job!

[@historyrhymes1701]

Awesome video. You covered a lot of controversial topics , probably in the best possible way . One small correction though, the first law reforms in Eastern Europe were done by Krum of Bulgaria (or possibly by his son Omurtag) Although ofcource if you exclude the Bulgarian possessions north of the Danube at the time , Bulgaria could have been considered as part of Southern Europe.

[@historyrhymes1701]

@@gagaspraga8194 Han what is that ? the title is Kanasubigi. And what we see from their inscriptions the Bulgarians never ever put their names infront of their titles like the turks and mongols. And as of the tatars they firstly arrived in Europe in the 13th century and the first sources about Bulgarians living in Europe (The Caucasus) date back to the 3rd century

[@bvthebalkananarchistmapper5642]

brain4breakfast and M. Laser upload a video on the same day? Is this heaven?

[@UpcycleElectronics]

Well done

[@polina5520]

13:19 I think the main reasons were that he didn’t want to submit to the power of the Pope + orthodox Christianity claimed that the power of a ruler was holy

[@bossschmutzfink9865]

The main reason was becoming closer friends with the byzantinian empire

[@noco7243]

My girlfriend is Belarusian. Now I know why she lives in a hut and hibernates during the winter. Thank you.

[@user-bf1yq6oj8z]

Does she really?:)

[@noco7243]

@@user-bf1yq6oj8z Why of course.

[@justrandomguy5010]

based berry collector gf

[@rigbytheanimal3868]

wait wat why so small amount of viewers this is so underrated

[@Sparticulous]

RigbY TheAnimal he is a new speaker. I’m sure his popularity will grow with this quality

[@Omnigreen]

I hope there will be continuation, you left at the most interesting part.

[@otosart8283]

Very interesting,,,A good effort...

[@Ammmssk]

great video! hungary next !! or the romances people in the balkans + romania

[@anarchistalhazen7084]

@M.Laser The knowledge of making Damascus Steel did not come from India, but the Abbasid Caliphate. Syria was as a centre of sword manufacturing even in the Roman era, But the metal that was used was from India.

[@AsatorIV]

@q1k9i3l0ä5å Yes, but only partially. The most important part of forging steel are the chemical reactions that turn iron into steel afterwards. In other words, it was more about the process of making the steel, rather than about the ore.

[@MLaserHistory]

I made a mistake there, the correction is in the description. "I actually meant to say crucible steel not Damascus steel as the ulfberht swords never actually where true Damascus steel. They where sometimes considered as pattern welded "false Damascus" steel which is a form of crucible steel but isn't actually true Damascus steel." And crucible steel and it's production comes from southern India and Sri Lanka, from there it traveled across the middle eastern trade routs and eventually up the Eastern European waterways all the way to Scandinavia.

[@emil3657]

really nice, and you don't sound so monotone in this one

[@user-wp7uw2eh9b]

Very nice!

[@NikiTheWreck]

Hi, thanks for a very clear explanation. Can you cite your sources for this video? I don't mean primary sources necessarily

[@vtzavp7289]

One thing tho The vikings success in the slavik lands happened only due to them mixing in with slavs something that history got wrong but archeology shows to be true that Rurik and Rus didn’t just rule slavs but mixed in with slavs creating Rus thus even slavs proudly called them self Rus

[@ninostrcic6709]

Will you cover rest of slavic history or is this it

[@ninostrcic6709]

@@MLaserHistory good to know

[@andreman2767]

Eastern slav' history amateur here. My imho notes: 1) Expansion to east was actually much slower and at described times area was (presumably) significantly smaller in east and north parts (then in 2:00). Finno-ugric population by time was assimilated by slavic communities, so yes, it looked like in top north at 2:00, but at the position of letter c in words Finno-ugric should be much less slavs and more finno-ugric peoples (and slavs near Volga in 9 century?). Also, dencity should be showed to be much sparce then shown 2) Presumably baltic peoples also had more land then shown on 2:00 3) Here at 2:20 map looks more accurate in terms of slav spread in pre-11cen. (If without 2 eastern tribes - i would say it will be pretty close in 8-9 c.). However due to common tribe distribution maps, even through neighbourhood is right, tribes commoly drawed in different places (mostly bit to east), for example main Severian city - Chernihiv - located here between Drevlans and Polans, i.e. Severians waaay eastward then they should be Upd: Also see video's description, here some words about that i said here, so it may be considered that it was 'fixed' :D Actually very liked this slavic series, especially part about western slavs, good job!

[@Domciskas]

I'd love a video about the balts

[@oli31]

Please do history of Finland, thanks! Awesome channel!!

[@Aurinkohirvi]

Please don't! There's already heaps of uneducated storytellers doing the same thing!

[@qweasdoUAttgl5300]

Thx for map on preview

[@xanthosparashis8819]

concerning the avars, which rivers and other geographic features defined the extent of their domain and their sphere of influence at their greatest extent?

[@MLaserHistory]

South would be today's northern Greek Border (Although this hold on the whole of the Balkans was brief), west would be the eastern ending of the Austrian Alps and the Ore Mountains in Czechia. North we don't know all we know is that they didn't reach the Baltic sea and East again we don't know exactly all we know is that they bordered the Khazars so the border is usually put somewhere between the Dnieper and Don rivers.

[@stefangamble2637]

Are you planning on following up these videos with middle Slavic and late Slavic history

[@MLaserHistory]

Maybe in the future yes, but for now there's just not enough time since I can't do youtube full time.

[@erikmarsicek5153]

you should do an episode on battles like agencourt

[@alterix5711]

does anyone know anything about the other East Slavic Chiefdoms? Also, these are really great videos

[@MLaserHistory]

If they existed there are no written records about them so unless a new discovery is made we won't know anything about them.

[@user-ye8lb7uh2u]

@@MLaserHistory what about Askold and Dir? P.S. Great video!

[@starless267]

@@user-ye8lb7uh2u Those were varangians too. Askold and Dyr are Scandinavian names

[@00MSG]

Put off by Islam because "Drinking is the joy of all Rus. We cannot exist without that pleasure." What a wise man.

[@Luna_the-Idiot]

" *WELL YOU SEE IT ALL STARTED IN 882, WHEN RURIK-* "

[@georgetacaprarescu8716]

Dear Sir thank you for the video. I want to ask you the next question. Did the Slavic people merge or did they absorb the Scythians and Sarmats? And please indicate the sources for the answer. Thank you!

[@alexeychalov163]

North-east sloveny from Ladoga and Novgorod were north-west slavs, colonising the trade from Baltic Sea to the south by settling on the north part of Volga river enter. As well as south East Slavs as Radimichi and Vyatichi did the same thing on Oka river (middle part to enter Volga). There were no much differences in slavs tribes and there languages or whatever, but they practiced different types of social hierarchy (Dnipro was more patriarchal clans, east was more independent communities).

[@petemcfadyen1697]

Could you put time stamps within the video? It would make it a lot easier to follow in an historical perspective. Thanks.

[@atewebg]

what about volga bulgaria?

[@Michael-qj5sx]

Do you have any explanation for the connection between the Slavic culture and the Vedic culture? There is some solid indication that these two are very much related.

[@scammerofyoutube3366]

Well I guess because the people of indo-european culture, due to Kurgan hypothesis, were from the steppes of modern day Ukraine and Russia

[@user-hf6hp9ou3v]

Basically, all accounts that mentioned Vedic culture didn't go too much in detail, and the archaeological findings were scarce and technically the pottery in the supposed Vedic region was either the same as Slavic pottery culture or heavily influenced, by it meaning they are either only a part of the Slavic culture or were driven out of their land by goths or vandals during great resettlement.

[@dmitriygryaznov9210]

Can't help noticing how in the end you must be referring to comments of these emissaries about them feeling "like in heaven" in Hagia Sophia, but their words are often interpreted (at least in Russian historical tradition) as not about lavishness of the temple but rather about a special religious ceremony Byzantines put up to impress them. But, I still really liked the vid and found it well-researched. Also, a fun bit of speculation: the time Vladimir was making the faith choices were just a couple of decades after the "special" Pope John XII and the broader "saeculum obscurum," and a couple of Russian historians speculate rumors of these happenings did not really strengthen Western Church's appeal in the eyes of Rus' (not saying "weakened it" because accepting Christianity from Rome rather than Constantinople was already unlikely due to much stronger trade and cultural ties with the latter).

[@krisskross3076]

13:04 rational drinker

[@myhal-k]

I might be not the first one pointing this out, so pardon me for not reading all the comments, but on the timestamp 2:19 you show "Rusyns/Dulebes" over the Carpathians. I find this rather misleading, as we do have some confirmations that they called themselves White Croats (or at least were called that way by neighbors), but we don't have solid proof that local Slavic people are in the Carpathians would call themselves Rusyns at least by XII century.

[@MLaserHistory]

Yes the Rusyn identity came in much later and it would be more appropriate to just leave the name of White Croats there as that is an attested name in the sources.

[@vrixphillips]

"The Eastern Orthodox Christians have the prettiest churches, so I guess I'll convert to that."

[@lerunya17]

@Внук Ельцина not Russia-_-

[@crazygoat2594]

4:05 wait didn't damascus steel come from damascus i'm so confused

[@MLaserHistory]

read the description

[@andreyche193]

There is a confusion of a damascus steel and the one which is composed of alternating layers of two or more different steels ( which is commonly called "damascus steel" as above). The actual damascus steel was made in and around Damascus and it didn't "come" anywhere as it's secret was lost (or a particular high-quality ore used for its manufacture was finally exhausted).

[@globetrekker86]

I knew that Ivan the Terrible’s hijinks would come up!

[@user-0xDEEDBEEF]

if there was a "new gorod" then it must be old too and it was. It name is Ladoga. the first kind of capital.

[@Armorius2199]

Early history of the Greeks!

[@poo_8857]

East Slav gang

[@VoidRDM]

Go Rurik!

[@thebelltower8040]

Velikiy Novgorod first mentioned in 859 AD in its own town's Chronicles. By the way there is the town of Staraya Ladoga witch is connected with Novgorod region and Orik (Rurik) dynasty as well, and it was founded in at least in 750 by slav tribes. So actually historic Rurik's Novgorod can be also "Rurikovo gorodische" that is located few kilometers otside of Velikiy Novgorod (The Varangian name of the city Holmgård or Holmgard (Holmgarðr or Holmgarðir) is mentioned in Norse Sagas as existing at a yet earlier stage, but the correlation of this reference with the actual city is uncertain. Originally, Holmgård referred to the stronghold, now only 2 km (1.2 miles) to the south of the center of the present-day city, Rurikovo Gorodische.)

[@madmasseur6422]

13:21 if he only knew about the Gothic style of architecture

[@superbrutus2369]

Dont rus come from the finnish name for the Swedish

[@antosolegycz]

2:13 You pointed the Slavs strongly to the east, Finno-Ugrics lived along the Volga

[@bossschmutzfink9865]

Finno Ugrics lived everywhere in northern European Russia.

[@abloodorange5233]

You only went through the kingdoms you didn't go through the groupijgs of slavs in that region at all

[@TheLocalLt]

The rurikid dynasty founded both the Kievan Rus and the Russian Tsardom, which Ivan the terrible created hundreds of years later after expelling the mongols

[@mikeg2306]

Fun Fact: Ivan and nominally his son Fyodor were the last rulers of the Rurikid dynasty, meaning the dynasty lasted over 500 years. Also Ivan styled himself Czar (i.e. Caesar) because he was literally the grandson of a Byzantine princess, niece of the last Byzantine Emperor. By Ivan’s time the Paleologos family was effectively extinct so he had as good a claim as anyone to the title.

[@anonymousbloke1]

He didn't claim to be a Byzantine emperor descendant and because of that, the title Tsar wasn't born due to those reasons. It was rather because of "muh third Rome" larp after the fall of Constantinople. AKA "Rome is gone and so is constantinople now, therefore the only true heir of Rome is Moscow!", that was his reasoning@@mikeg2306

[@salar1586]

I wonder what script and language russians spoke before 8th century

[@mountaindewgaming2351]

It’s unknown as writing only became widespread with glagotic and cyrillic both of which were invented as acceptable substitutes in which to translate latin into by the orthodox church invented by monk methodus and cyril if there was a script in pagan rus it is long since lost or never existed at all as the pagans mostly used degradable materials and most were destroyed in the campaigns to covert east europe ie northern crusades as well as other revolts and wars

[@mountaindewgaming2351]

It was probably something similar to old church slavonic linguistically which was close to baltic languages

[@iomorto]

I’m Catholic but I’m Slav I’m from the west Bosnia and Herzegovina not far away from Croatia

[@whaddyamean99]

I wrote a paper last year about the authorship of the Primary Chronicle. There are many inconsistencies and my basic conclusion is that while we don't necessarily know who wrote it, it was almost certainly not Nestor

[@druzhynets91]

I have a very historic name :)

[@warrcoww6717]

Saint Olga, patron saint of mass arson

[@rsabinioan]

Imagine Russia these days being jewish lol Edit: well oh..

[@czowiekbezperspektyw4628]

U know that half of communist goverment were jews?

[@rsabinioan]

@@czowiekbezperspektyw4628 thats why i ironically said "oh wait"

[@czowiekbezperspektyw4628]

@42 No its not. Half of soviet goverment were jews. Stalin wife also

[@czowiekbezperspektyw4628]

@42 www.timesofisrael.com/putin-first-soviet-government-was-mostly-jewish/ Trocky was a jew Brezhen said : "I am a Jew. I want to live in the Jewish state. That is my right, just as it is the rights of a Ukrainian to live in the Ukraine, the right of a Russian to live in Russia, the right of a Georgian to live in Georgia. I want to live in Israel. That is my dream, that is the goal not only of my life but also of the lives of hundreds of generation that preceded me, of my ancestors who were expelled from their land. I want to my children to study in the Hebrew language. I want to read Jewish papers, I want to attend a Jewish theatre. What is wrong with that? What is my crime ...?"

[@TheWoozie147]

@@czowiekbezperspektyw4628 Boris Kochubievsky said that not Brezhnev.

[@ssw1988]

Busy pwning each other in the 21st Century...

[@MCorpReview]

Vladimir d hardcore

[@eternitynaut]

The two main defining traits of the Slavs, there's many of them and they like drinking so much their king went window shopping for a faith a ruled out those who prohibited alcohol as it was too strict.

[@erikf.7696]

Princess of Polotsk: I won't marry you, you bastard! Vladimir: well see about that. And then he did the only sensible thing.

[@alexeygrinin8941]

Being slav....That's great!

[@adnannazifi4532]

Rasha is good to be with European Union , itis good for the economy ,

[@mountaindewgaming2351]

Did pagan slavs ever settle the Ural Mountains

[@MLaserHistory]

no, they never got that far as pagans

[@mountaindewgaming2351]

How far east did east slavic pagans expand I can find almost no information the extent of eastern expansion

[@user-wd9ut7hn7k]

9:15 Voronezh was built by Peter the Great. It cannot be on the map THAT early. I live here k?

[@MLaserHistory]

It's not the Voronezh but a Voronezh. A Slavic town settlement has been found in that area on the Voronezh river dating back to around the 8th century. Plus Voronezh was mentioned by the primary chronicle so it definitely existed during the Middle Ages.

[@NN-js3vl]

@@MLaserHistory , May I ask you what kind of sources you have used to provide this historical review? Today, many Ukrainian and Russian historians claim that Voronezh and Russia in general are descendants of finno-ugric settlements but not Slavs.

[@user-wd9ut7hn7k]

@@MLaserHistory by a Voronezh you mean some settlement by the river, right? I'll try to contact someone who has more knowledge about the town than I do, but the museums, schools and administration have the opinion of Voronezh being 400-450 years old (there is a proper year but I don't remember it). If it was *some* settlement, however, it might've been anything. We even have one of the biggest early-human settlements in Kostyonki village, so some slavic settlement is not something unbelievable

[@user-wd9ut7hn7k]

@@MLaserHistory oh, and also, can you provide sources? The pages of primary chronicle would be awesome to read

[@MLaserHistory]

Primary chronicle 249, mentions Ryazan, prince of Yaropolk, fleeing to Voronezh after losing a battle. ------------------------ "a number of settlements. In the lower reaches of the river, a unique Slavic town-planning complex of the 8th - early 11th century was discovered, which covered the territory of the present city of Voronezh and its environs" Wikipedia sights there sources with this and considering I have read about it in other English sources (that I don't really have access to at the moment as libraries are closed) I have no reason to not believe it. В. П. Загоровский. "Воронежская историческая энциклопедия". Воронеж, 1992. Стр. 53. А. З. Винников, А. Т. Синюк. "Дорогами тысячелетий: Археологи о древней истории Воронежского края". Издание 2-е. Воронеж, 2003. Стр. 185-187, 236-242. Н. А. Тропин. "Южные территории Чернигово-Рязанского порубежья в XII-XV вв." Автореферат диссертации на соискание ученой степени доктора исторических наук. Москва, 2007. П. А. Попов. "Воронеж: древнее слово и древние города, а также древние леса и древние реки России". Воронеж, 2016.

[@WombatSteve]

13:08 And Vodka would later corrupt Russia.

[@user-jx4il2wr2q]

Водки до семнадцатого века не существовало! Тогда пили медовуху!

[@negotive4303]

@@user-jx4il2wr2q Дело говоришь

[@mountaindewgaming2351]

@@negotive4303its potato so obviously it would not exist in 9th century rus though the varagians vikings were notorious drunkards often drinking themselves to death

[@mountaindewgaming2351]

So you know like modern russia

[@hlibushok]

I'll write down the list of Rus' monarchs mentioned in this video and their deeds because writing helps memorizing. Maybe someone will find this helpful: Rurik (862 - 869) - conquered one of the northern Slavic chiefdoms and established himself as the ruler there. Died. Oleg (879 - _940_ ) - Rurik's kin. Acted as a regent for Rurik's son Igor. Did a lot of conquest including Kyiv, which became the realm's new capital. Lost a war against Igor over the throne. Igor ( _912_ - 945) - Rurik's son. Won a war against Oleg over the throne. Fought Byzantines and Khazars. Was brutally killed by his subjects from the Drevlia tribe for demanding too much tribute. Olga (945 - 960) - Igor's wife. Sviatoslav's mother and regent. Avenged her husband by burning down the Drevlian capital. Centralized power. Enacted law reforms. Adopted Christianity. Sviatoslav (960 - 972) - Was pagan. Fought the bordering nomadic tribes. Lost a battle to the Byzantines. Was ambushed and killed by their allies - nomadic Pechenegs. Yaropolk (972 - 978) - Sviatoslav's son. Defeated his brothers Oleg (killed) and Vladimir (fled) in a succession crisis. Lost all the conquests of his dad. Was killed by Vladimir. Vladimir (978 - 1015) - Sviatoslav's bastard son. Was defeated by his brother Yaropolk in a succession crisis and fled to Norway. Gathered an army there and retook the throne. Reconquered some of his dad's conquests. Converted the country to Orthodox Christianity.

[@leander4303]

fuck i want to know what happens next

[@Aurinkohirvi]

This is as much history as Game of Thrones....

[@ludwigschneider2258]

imagine a muslim Russia....

[@isadanjan4762]

Русские это православные славяне, а татары да. Но у татаров есть отдельная регион и они не русские ес что.

[@ludwigschneider2258]

@@isadanjan4762 это правда

[@user-nk3um1pj7c]

@@ludwigschneider2258 Ты идиот

[@mountaindewgaming2351]

Moscows 20 percent muslim

[@globetrekker86]

“Vladimir killed Olga’s father and forced her to marry him, anyway.” Sounds like another Vladimir’s tactic of choice

[@user-cf5xb7pn3p]

Slavic tribe never settled on Volga River region.There are ugro-finnish settlements, their descendants are russians

[@KingAGBozz]

Thumbnail Map ist wrong

[@TheCarloza]

Great video, you obv did lots of research, check out my animation on European history ^^

[@monarchistheadcrab8819]

"Drinking is the joy of all Rus..." This, gentlemen, is why nowadays we don't have a chechnya in the size of Russia

[@glazedbeachbro3926]

Judaism would have been a good choice 🕍

[@plaidpvcpipe3792]

It's amazing how a throwaway decision could've vastly changed Jewish history as we know it.

[@olehsamko723]

Do not say Vladimier, right to say Volodymyr. So it is written in the Tale of Nestor

[@PseudonymsAreGovno]

1) It's Vladimir, not Vladimier or Vlaedamaer; 2)Old East Slavic language had a lot of dialects, and, to be fair, even OES' successor languages had dialects, like Russian language had 24 dialects, so there is several "right" ways to pronounce some words.

[@anonymousbloke1]

No it is literally written "Володымер" in the chronicle (VolodymEr, with an E instead of a second Y)@@PseudonymsAreGovno

[@unknownbenefactor8029]

Why the Rus convert to Orthodox. Simple, *VODKA* No Vodka No Russki.

[@pointofinterest9084]

Kyiv. It's just Kyiv.

[@biz4746]

No, it’s kiev.

[@pointofinterest9084]

@@biz4746 its not, was not and won't be, but you may end up while trying

[@anonymousbloke1]

"Кыѣв" as was written in the chronicle. Which according to linguists would've either been pronounced as KYEV by most East Slavs or KYIV to those specific to the capital's area, because the O/E to I shift in Ukrainian is documented to be extremely old, since before Lithuanians and Poles conquered that territory

[@Drazzz27]

@@anonymousbloke1 in the chronicles it was variously spelled as Кыѥвъ, Києвъ, Кіевъ, etc. The spelling with "yat" (like Кыѣвъ, Киѣвъ, Кіѣвъ) appeared later and remained like that until the modern orthographical reforms.

[@anonymousbloke1]

@@Drazzz27 and the reason they started writing it with ять instead is because the spelling started to reflect the actual pronunciation. Which happened to be with ~i in the native areas around Kyiv

[@behzadahmad8818]

just imagine a jewish or muslim russia.

[@piskanigra228]

In Russia, there is Islam, but only some of the Rus believe in this religion, the rest are already Turkic peoples. Imagine that in Russia there is not only Islam but also Buddhism

[@behzadahmad8818]

@@piskanigra228 what i meant was jewish or muslim majority russia, thats on me for no being clear enough

[@piskanigra228]

@@behzadahmad8818 and, ok, I didn’t understand right away, I just didn’t sleep at night and didn’t understand your question)

[@behzadahmad8818]

@@piskanigra228 its ok