Earning IOT vs MOBILE with a Helium Hotspot Explained

With the new Hello Helium hotspot you'll make both IOT and MOBILE. This video covers the fact you only make IOT with the old LoRa hotspots and the 5G ones you'll make both, although making MOBILE is more of the focus.
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[@djmaze2517]

Right on Justin! Great YT video 👌🏼✌🏼

[@DoItJustinKace]

Thanks! Hope it helps!

[@bluenetmarketing]

Beautiful video! Thanks.

[@DoItJustinKace]

Glad you liked it!

[@masteraxu8142]

Good content! This Helium Mobile thing feels a lot like the old adage "fool me once....". Cautiously getting back into this with an outdoor hotspot from helium that I'll set online today. I hope for quick ROI this time. It appears that size of covered area is more important for earnings than the actual houses you can hit, even if it's just empty cornfield.

[@DoItJustinKace]

I’m getting that impression also for POC. Like their just want to remove dead zones.

[@adriandeiac8365]

it's a bummer that the outdoor hotspot works only with 30W, 54V, POE+ injector that is not included. Been waiting for that injector to arrive for almost two weeks.

[@LovethisNation]

I really don’t understand the concept of rewards, my planner covers alot but rewards are much less than 47k tokens

[@DoItJustinKace]

@@adriandeiac8365 yeah, I saw that during my research. I’m sure you can buy one locally.

[@DoItJustinKace]

@@LovethisNation sorry. Most are. I live on a hill so that makes a difference.

[@PewDieRy]

Mapping with your phone is another great way to earn mobile. I paid for my mobile hotspot with mapping rewards.

[@parisgorman6834]

How do you do that? I’m interested?

[@DoItJustinKace]

You just reminded me I need the check the mailbox for my sim. That’s video is soon to come!

[@parisgorman6834]

@@DoItJustinKace when are you thinking about making the video for mapping?

[@DoItJustinKace]

@@parisgorman6834 I need the sim first!

[@PewDieRy]

@@DoItJustinKace I got my eSIM at the beginning of the month and started mapping. Those rewards ended up paying for my mobile hotspot. LFG

[@cryptoturnup9137]

Crazy!! i ordered on a few ago, and it's coming today!! Lets see how this goes.. Def waiting on an outdoor one too.. Might as well, i shoulda pulled the trigger when i first saw it, but now, i'm fomoing lol ugh.. but we already here, this is like hnt all over again.. so ride the wave..

[@DoItJustinKace]

Yeah. I live with that regret too. But hopefully not for too long.

[@jakehuang1211]

Is there any Helium hotsopt only using wireless?

[@cf6979]

Hey JK! I remember reading about a "conversion kit" some manufacturers were going to make available to convert miners to 5G. Have you seen any new news on this subject?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Ha! Dead as far as I know.

[@magnusolsen7538]

Should i onboard my Old hotspot to mobile network? Or stay with mining iot?

[@Angel-kw1ry]

Thanks for the Post! Do you have any videos or resources you could recommend to troubleshoot my bobcat300? hasn't been operational in quite some time.

[@DoItJustinKace]

I’d say the Bobcat discord, but it looks not to be active. Maybe they’ve changed accounts with that Bobber name change. Not sure.

[@devonm8043]

will you make a vid setting up your indoor mobile hotspot when you get it? Also are you planning to get the phone plan? That guy with a lot of mobile rewards could likely be using the phone plan to help boost his hotspot

[@DoItJustinKace]

Yep and Yep. Gotta wait for all that tho. Sim card coming soon.

[@garytman007]

What's the SIMM card for? Your helium mobile plan? I use an eSIMM on my fold 3 thats why I had this question. Oh and I subscribed I love your content!

[@fpvtec30]

Hi Justin, The antennas you are confused about are for the high power installations that require the Baicells 436h radio. These radios have 4 antenna ports and can have omni antennas for 360 degree or directional antennas configured in sectors. I run a bobber 500 with 1 Mosolabs radio in Los Angeles. I welded up a 25 foot pole to my home.

[@LovethisNation]

Will these type of antennas give you more coverage?

[@DoItJustinKace]

But those are not for 5G, right? It's an extension for LoRa. So why does the system act like it's not? Or does it assume you also have the Baicells 436H attached?

[@fpvtec30]

No, these are not for lora these antennas are usually 3500mhz - 3800mhz for LTE CBRS. These higher power radios earn more mobile but are $5K for 1 unit without antennas or mounting. You end up spending $7K if you need the Gateway as well. @@DoItJustinKace

[@scw806a]

@@DoItJustinKacethe previous version of miners are from the 900MHz this time is much higher frequency with MIMO technology

[@DavidReyes-dl8tn]

Is it worth continuing to invest in outdoor placing my syncrobit hnt miner (now Nebra flashed) ? I fell out of the mining scene after ETH pow went extinct, but now with the new rise I want to start getting back into passive mining earning. Any suggestions? Should I mount my antenna for my syncrobit miner (lofi) I think that’s what you called its type

[@DoItJustinKace]

IOT might be worth repurposing for new network. If you want to stay with Helium you'll have to look at their MOBILE options.

[@christiancirkel2052]

Hi justin great video again... Would you start Mining iot, when you start now? i'm in the EU

[@DoItJustinKace]

I would not do IOT right now. There are plenty of IOT hotspots online.

[@ryanchin-curtis8582]

Whats the difference between the outdoor mobile hotspot and the baicell outdoor miners?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Mobile is wifi. The other is 5G.

[@kimberlysheppard1816]

Wondering if we can open up the indoor machines and solder a connection so you can use an external antenna like the KP 8 DBI

[@DoItJustinKace]

Mine just shipped. I hope to know more on that before 2024.

[@fpvtec30]

This is possible but I feel it is only worth upgrading the antennas on outdoor radios that have internal antennas like the Baicells 430h and the mosolabs outdoor unit.

[@jorgesilva5732]

So is it $249 a one time payment or is there a monthly payment for the hotspots Wi-Fi as well ?

[@DoItJustinKace]

That's the price for the unit.

[@VitaliyMishkin]

did anyone tested the harmess of those 5g Helium hotspots?

[@user-gl7wh1ni6r]

Have you used two Helium Mobile Hotspot Indoor on same location? Does it good?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Not mobile. No idea. Let me know how it works for you.

[@MAKING.MOTION]

I have a bobcat 300 can I put the new hotspot in the same house ?

[@DoItJustinKace]

I plan to. May effect your IOT earnings on the other hotspot.

[@johncastaneda7552]

All these sites require a set up and a fee - and I have a Nebra I’m a newbie first miner but upon onboarding it has a an error no data - when using Nebra app but when I switched to helium app it brought an error about paying extra on baording fee due to the change in solana -- to who do we pay to what app or what wallet or do I put 40 dollars worth of hnt in my helium wallet can I also sighn up for mobile and build hnt to onboard Nebra helium miner ???

[@DoItJustinKace]

What the hell are you talking about? This a used Nebra or something? If it's new then there should be no fees.

[@johncastaneda7552]

I bought it on eBay :( it wouldn’t onboard - I got a message about paying some 40.00 worth of solana or hnt because of the switch -but I went to a website for Nebra it stated it’s paid but only 10.00 - so know I’m lost in thinking maybe all helium miners require an onboarding fee ??? Or just old outdated ones I been wanting to purchase indoor hotspot for my area I don’t have many close miners within 7 to 10 miles away what about the linxdot hotspot miner in your opinion for me I’m new to this my first onboarding never happen im willing to return it if I’m still able and purchase one through the website 249.00

[@IIIVegAIII]

I wonder how the mobile would do with a high traffic intersection of cars that has a stop sign? Do cars count the same a foot traffic?

[@DoItJustinKace]

I’m curious also. I don’t know about the quick connect/disconnect.

[@IIIVegAIII]

That's why I said a stop sign. Where the car would be in the same same spot for over a minute or so. I think that could be enough time to do some activity.@@DoItJustinKace

[@doomslayerforever2858]

honestly looking at most miners returns have been going steady down last 2 months. same bullshit with HNT hard pass on this. if u got a miner back in april it was a nice return selling the top. I need to know whats gonna push price higher not lower

[@DoItJustinKace]

I totally get that. The hotspots are coming online like crazy.

[@BW9197]

Hi Justin...For the indoor mobile hotspot, I can see how they are viable where there is heavy foot traffic i.e., bars, restaurants, nail salons, etc. However, if you live in a suburb like you and the neighbor you mentioned (and me), how can this indoor hotspot be viable? I don't understand how your neighbor is making the money you mention in a neighborhood with limited foot traffic. As I understand it, these devices have very limited range. Glad to see you back! Bill

[@DoItJustinKace]

Because we're talking about POC rewards for Proof of Coverage in an area. Not data transfer rewards. POC doesn't care where, just the distance of coverage. However high traffic areas will yield more in the long term for data transfer.

[@Baig.mirzaa]

Can I place one in uk ?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Nope. Regulations prevent it I think.

[@thunderroad7289]

I have the freedomfi units with the 430 radios and I also have the bobber 500 with the 430 radios. I actually like the bobber 500 better. Customer service is better

[@DoItJustinKace]

Good to know! Not a big bobber fan tho. How do you get customer service? Discord?

[@cryptotyc]

👍

[@DoItJustinKace]

Thanks!

[@guthannight]

Can you have a IOT and a mobile hotspot in the same house?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Yes. I haven't seen an issue.

[@doomslayerforever2858]

bobber 500 is shipping now Freedom all sold out of everything and one bobber setup near me has made 2,237,459.00 mobile

[@DoItJustinKace]

But do you know what you’d make based on the planner?

[@enriquevilla2065]

"old" loRa hotspots. Damn that was only 2-3 years ago that they were hot. Now they're just old. lol how fast the crypto world is moving!

[@DoItJustinKace]

Yep. Like a laptop.

[@trentmalik5308]

Watching just in case

[@DoItJustinKace]

Thanks!

[@Abundantopportunities]

So far made $30 a week.. looking to move on my lanai to get more coverage

[@DoItJustinKace]

antenna? Whats lanai?

[@garytman007]

​@@DoItJustinKaceI think it's just an outdoor covered porch area.

[@RC-mz4jf]

please say sol ANA

[@DoItJustinKace]

Eh. Sure. For one $MOBILE token!

[@burnologist229]

Just buy the indoor miner and retro fit it for outside use with some silicon sealant and 3D printed parts. Throw in a amplifier and for 249 ur making a quick buck

[@DoItJustinKace]

Not going to work. Not designed for that. But if you are able to make it happen, please shoot me a video of the process. I'll also look options when I get mine.

[@burnologist229]

Back in 2022 I converted my indoor Nebra miner to a outdoor miner using 3d printed parts and some platinum silicon. I 3d printed a outdoor encloser shell brushed silicon over the Part (to make a thin silicon membrane). for the bottom of the enclose I designed a double conical shape with some brushes so I could install a fan to keep the miner from overheating. Then for the power source I used a large, insulated battery bank which allowed me to place the miner wherever I wanted to. The battery bank should have a heat controller if it is placed in sunlight. The only limitation was suppling Wi-Fi but that can be done by using range extenders. I know that the Indoor Wi-Fi hotspot is not deigned to be placed outside but if there is a will there is a way. The signal from the hotspot will have low range so the remedy is to add an amp. To add the amp Youd have to identify the signal your hotspot is Brodcasting. I havent gotten my hands one of these hotspots but i intend too. @@DoItJustinKace

[@DoItJustinKace]

@@burnologist229 I hear what you're saying, and thanks for the details, but I don't even think the indoor miners are 5G. That's the bigger issue. Totally different technology and purpose.

[@scw806a]

@@burnologist229 this time the amplifier you have to tune it for higher frequencies and wider band. I think according to the datasheet it said 5.8Ghz is the highest band

[@cardanium5790]

Lol .. started with 4.5k tokens a day .. after one month I'm making 1k and going down every day.. thankfully i didn't bought more than one

[@DoItJustinKace]

Yep. Always a diminishing scale as more join in. Sucks I know.

[@doomslayerforever2858]

shits out of stock everywhere this is why im stick of these miners. FIrst in first to make millions. someone near me has a freedomfi setup since Nov 29th 2023 and has earned Lifetime 7,692,317.00 WTF bro this might be the 5k outdoor idk

[@DoItJustinKace]

Sounds like it. But that doesn’t mean that you would make the same amount. You have to use the planner to figure out if it’s worth it.

[@mr.crypto8723]

Flat white cat

[@DoItJustinKace]

Wayne's World!

[@DoItJustinKace]

When I see 3 CBRS radios all I can think is, "Damn, that's over $5K!"

[@mr.crypto8723]

@@DoItJustinKace nope I got them on eBay $500-$750 each just sold a freedom fi gateway and a indoor

[@seanaleta5527]

​@@mr.crypto8723where they brand new?