A Helium Mobile Hotspot Pays for a Helium Mobile Plan and More!

[@starlab2006]

I’m currently on Helium started two days ago so if I get the hotspot for my home, does that increase my 30gb data limit?

[@jaredgrant3708]

I just checked discord and If 100 subscribers connect to your your hotspot during a month, they each can transfer 40 GB of rewarded traffic through it, and you’d earn $2,000 in MOBILE for that. So if in a home scenario each family member has their own plan then they would get the 40 Gb rewarded traffic each which would be about $20 per person, which will cover the cost of the plan that month.

[@DoItJustinKace]

Yes. That's what I was saying. Not a good long term investment tho. Which is why this hotspot is headed to a nail salon. I want those 100 users.

[@trailerminer9650]

I was able to put my wife in another phone in the house on to my hotspot just by putting the application with my info I've got another hotspot coming and my wife will soon be on helium mobile fill them bags

[@montereychameleonsandmore2666]

So what happens when you take your phone in an area that has no helium hot spots how do you get service?

[@montereychameleonsandmore2666]

But then wouldn’t that cost you $80 a month to have all four? What would your return of investment formula look like then?

[@jaredgrant3708]

@@montereychameleonsandmore2666 the helium mobile hotspot is basically a wifi device and you only connect to it when you are in range of one. So when I get home it automatically connects to my hotspot and the hotspot then earns data transfer credits which is paid out in MOBILE. When I’m not at home it uses the helium mobile cell service which uses the T-mobile network.

[@Darktron]

Regardless of the phone it will only be 10GB DTR for the 5$ plan/account and 40GB DTR for the 20$ plan/account once the account hits the max DTR it will be reset on next billing cycle. It all comes down to the WiFi certificate installed after logging in to the account. Once you have the combo, you'll get 3 rewards total all $Mobile DTR (data transmission rewards) MDR(mapping discovery rewards) PoC(proof of coverage rewards) Just need a 20$ plan that pays it self after the first month and a 250/500$ hotspot to get DTR and PoC. PoC and DMR are daily while DTR is monthly rewards.

[@DoItJustinKace]

Thanks for the greater detail!

[@mistarob80]

This was what exactly what I was planning on doing. Thanks for clearing out any questions I had. I'll be using your code for sure!👍💯

[@DoItJustinKace]

I appreciate that. Thanks!

[@mistarob80]

@@DoItJustinKace signed up an already got 1300 mobile rewards for mapping. Much appreciated 🤘💯

[@darrickharris5534]

I work from home but I would like to use this method to keep cost down but 40GB doesn’t seem like much. Any ideas for a household of 5 who stream all day?

[@rtfclb8]

For it to pay towards you bill, should we collect rewards, or no?

[@aureliomoscoso6420]

Don't forget to press the like button and if you enjoyed this content, subscribe as well. Lately these videos have been really good, lots of information and made easy to understand.

[@DoItJustinKace]

Thanks! I’m going to do a deep dive on discovery mapping next.

[@Hulkmartell]

I have a question. Is there a way to locate the traffic of helium mobile users? To deploy a hotspot in right area. Also I know you need more than 165 mapping events because that is the highest one I have that was not rewarded if that makes sense. So way more than 2 as you mentioned to be rewarded for mobile mapping

[@DoItJustinKace]

I’m sure at some point Helium may create a map of traffic. We’ll just have to wait and see.

[@PlanDeFi]

I think it’s bullshit how *us early beta adopters* the ones that took the “gamble” & allowed Helium mobile to expand. Yet we only get 10gb of data for rewards.

[@DoItJustinKace]

Is what it is.

[@J_R_360]

Well i lost a fortune with heliums first mess buying BOBCAT300's Helium now wants to sell people on NEW HOTSPOTS?? What do the 1000's of investors screwed on heliums first "GREAT INVESTMENT???"

[@DoItJustinKace]

Yeah, but these are wifi not LoRa. So a little Different but your point is well taken. Helium needs to kick bobber to the curb.

[@michaelwatson7695]

Same here, plus the price is to much,

[@MrYoshikado]

I notice we all mine the same amount per day

[@Tom-ib3gy]

Yes rewards are split evenly

[@Armchair-Investor]

Yes, the MOBILE for proof of coverage is split evenly.

[@DoItJustinKace]

So I assume you don't have any data being transferred?

[@BandedFuture]

Wanted to give you credit, but your code didn't work. :-(

[@DoItJustinKace]

9ESVVZR didn't work? Weird! Maybe they're block me.

[@MrYoshikado]

The rewards i got today 1/5 were 1230. And some change.

[@DoItJustinKace]

Nice!

[@LovethisNation]

Great video. Here are other things that needs to be said: 1. the data credit cap is 10GB per subscriber if they’re on the $5 plan. 40GB for the $20 and 10GB for the $5. 2. If you have a hotspot on a public place it may not be wise to automatically turn off data transfer for unrewarded subscribers, you would want happy customers who may benefit from WiFi access in areas where cell reception may not be great. 3. Helium will benefit and the network will grow the more traffic is offloaded from T-Mobile.

[@DoItJustinKace]

Went taken. If I should update this video I’ll definitely make a point of stating this information.

[@rkbest9783]

5 months later. I am using the same as you have shown with main phone for discovery mapping and another phone with sim that connects to hotspot and has the helium certificate installed to connect to hotspot. But I notice I only got POC and no data rewards ever after using 12 gb over 4-5 days. Also, the hotspot is missing on the black wallet. Am I missing something?

[@bluenetmarketing]

Does the monthly 40GB limit also apply to the outdoor wifi hotspot?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Yes, it should.

[@ruta7540]

Can I take the mobile hotspot with me to different locations?

[@DoItJustinKace]

You can move it and reassert it at no cost.

[@b00m3rh4nd_sol]

How can I get the WiFi certificate installed on my laptop?

[@DoItJustinKace]

I don’t think you can.

[@guybachar9112]

i tried to use your code says its invalid ...sorry

[@DoItJustinKace]

All good. Sorry it didn't work!

[@2006mrderrickh]

Update?

[@brandonrob170]

Does anyone know if you can turn hotspot on with just the phone so I can use it in the car or on the go? Like for my kids iPad? Because the mobile hotspot doesn’t seem TRULY mobile. If I have to have it hooked up to my WiFi. Then. When I leave the house no hot spot

[@DoItJustinKace]

It’s not really designed to work that way. But I suppose you could figure out a way if you really wanted.

[@JaymonYates]

Can I use my existing phone plan and helium plan on the same phone?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Depends on what phone you have. But you can use a virtual Sim card.

[@JaymonYates]

I have iPhone 15 Pro Max. I want to keep my existing plan and just add the helium plan to this same phone for mining. Is this possible?

[@WassupFred]

Yea this was a no brainer. 😂 but the key is def to get other users connected.

[@DoItJustinKace]

Agreed. I assume they'll make a HIP to close things like this in the future, but within a month this is going somewhere with foot traffic. So no worries.

[@WassupFred]

@@DoItJustinKace agreed!!!!

[@LucasLand]

just got my outdoor hotspot hooked up today. I also now connect my 2 cell phones to the helium mobile internet connection. It got me wondering. would I get rewards if I changed my apple iMac that I use for internet to the helium mobile network instead of xfinity?

[@DoItJustinKace]

I don’t think you can connect your computers to the mobile network.

[@BACHARGUY7]

Can you explain better what happens after the 40gb reach ,any rewards ? .mine maxed in two days by me and children ,so what do I earn the rest of the month ?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Nothing unless a new subscriber connects to it. it's 40gb per subscription.

[@soulassassin4847]

My rewards have been decreasing everyday. They say that the more ppl subscribe, you’ll start receiving less rewards

[@DoItJustinKace]

Yep. It's a pool of rewards. It's divided between us. Just not equally.

[@TURBOTIGRE]

Is working in Spain ? 🇪🇸

[@DoItJustinKace]

No.

[@Kicker774]

Can I run that mobile mapping app without the $20/mo plan? Can you link the app? Quick googling isnt yeikding good results at the moment.

[@DoItJustinKace]

No. You need to plan. Hellohelium.com

[@JamieM-j7t]

I take it all this is only happening in the USA? I've just tried Helium planner and nothing is showing up for UK 🇬🇧

[@DoItJustinKace]

Yep. Only in the USA for now.

[@buddylove7133]

6:40 that's per phone sub, if you have more then 1 phone plain you can get more its not limited to the wifi hotspot itself just the phone's plain. So 2 phone with 2 phone plains 80 gb of data :)

[@DoItJustinKace]

Agreed. I now have three plans running in my house.

[@EcksDeeee]

How is the phone service itself? Like will it get good coverage across the country or is it mostly for dense cities? thanks

[@LucasLand]

I have the service and use it while doing deliveries in semi rural areas with no issues

[@Nate-jw9wd]

If it helps it’s also on Tmobile towers.

[@DoItJustinKace]

T-Mobile coverage is not very good where I live. But I guess that’s why we need my CBCR!

[@LovethisNation]

It’s essentially T-Mobile service 100% of the time if not using a hotspot

[@Nate-jw9wd]

@@LovethisNation that’s my understanding as well which in a bigger areas with lots of houses I do have better service then just my Tmobile.

[@PlanDeFi]

And you need 40 hexes covered in order to earn. And once you log into the helium mobile app on a different phone, it logs you out on the previous phone

[@DoItJustinKace]

Yep. I don’t like the new system.

[@AlexMartinez-by9nx]

Another great video, thank you

[@DoItJustinKace]

Thanks for watching!

[@guybachar9112]

can you explain in more detail installing yours on two different phone but one sim card? explain the connectivity. thanks i connect another phone but i can only see dynamic coverage. thanks

[@DoItJustinKace]

I'm only talking about the app. The app works as long as you have an account. So you can do Dynamic Mapping on any phone, not just the one with the sim. However you can only do it on one phone. So pick the phone you want to use.

[@InFocusPhotos]

Great Videos. I had some thoughts on data usage. If we get "40GB data per plan" I'm wondering if that is per hotspot also? With 2 hotspots we might get 40GB data per hotspot?

[@DoItJustinKace]

I think so. It's per hotspot.

[@michaelwatson7695]

Great content, but I got burned by previous helium network with my Bob cat's, still got them & the cost should be less , thanks for the content anyhow

[@DoItJustinKace]

Yeah. I have that pain.

[@maestrozilla]

your ref code not working... or glitched? i can hold out tilu fix it...or you hit limit? lmk

[@DoItJustinKace]

No, use someone elses. They maxed me out. I'll get a new line today and fix it. Thanks!

[@hondaland_]

Welp I hit order sim. Already mapping. Let's go! First isp on crypto. Once they can operate without t mobile it's going to be crazy

[@DoItJustinKace]

True! And at least when mining with the phone isn't profitable you can always cancel service. But hopefully something even more awesome will happen.

[@hondaland_]

@@DoItJustinKace yup. This is funner than iot was and waaaaay easier. I also love the fact that I can pay my line with crypto. I can always turn Solana into mobile if I need to but right now the rewards almost make it seem like we have a lifetime cell phone just because we're here for the forefront

[@QNStorm]

Hi Justin, Do i need to be a Helium mobile customer in order to set up and earn on the Outdoor Hotspot?

[@DoItJustinKace]

No.

[@tyeishaperkins5199]

But that a lot people only want make 1000 from this so how much people need connection for that

[@DoItJustinKace]

Are you talking about the thousand from POC earnings? No one needs to connect for that. You get it just by having the machine on.

[@itzyzaza1806]

Can you use your own data, like if you tether your smart tv to it? Will you get credits for it?

[@DoItJustinKace]

You can’t tether anything that isn’t using the subscription.

[@MRPHR3SH]

My biggest question is what data is being tracked and rewarded? Is it the data from the hotspots direct wifi connection or the data used on the mobile 5G plan as it connects because its near by a hotspot?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Are you talking about discovery rewards? check out my next video.

[@Bryno64]

Would you say it’s pointless to get the indoor hotspot if you live in a rural area? Thanks great videos

[@DoItJustinKace]

No. Indoor works anywhere.

[@montereychameleonsandmore2666]

How long is it taking people’s miners to start producing rewards after initial install?

[@DoItJustinKace]

I give it about three days.

[@tonymai6253]

Hi Justin, I just got Bobcat Miner 300 today but it can't conect to bluetooth to my phone. how to fix Bobcat Miner 300 have "error wait" when connect bluetooth?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Don’t know. You should probably contact bobcat support on this.

[@kevin83972]

Connect to the bobcat ip address check your network by going on your router ip settings and you can diagnose and give it 1-3 days and verify mining activity after a week check ports are open on your network too if outbound and inbound port settings it updates itself

[@jacobrasmussen4784]

Is it possible to get just the hotspot without getting mobile ?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Sure.

[@danielross9189]

Just to clarify, once i reach my 40GB of data limit, i would need to connect to wifi?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Not sure I understand the question as the data limit is for the wifi.

[@danielross9189]

@@DoItJustinKace That helps, I see I'm thinking of it wrong

[@soonseen12]

So you have 2 numbers on 1 phone?

[@DoItJustinKace]

No. The other phone is just using the app. Not the phone number.

[@soonseen12]

@@DoItJustinKace ok got it thanks

[@jaredgrant3708]

If you have a phone that supports eSIM then you don’t need to buy a second phone specifically for helium mobile. I have my current carrier plan on a physical sim and then just purchased the helium mobile eSIM and installed in on the same phone. So now I have 2 cell numbers on 1 phone and it gets daily rewards from mapping and connects to my helium mobile hotspot at home. I’ve set it up this way with a separate subscription for everyone in my house.

[@chrislopez5595]

@@jaredgrant3708how much rewards are you seeing on your hotspot

[@soonseen12]

​@@jaredgrant3708 thank you sir, this is exactly what I was trying to find out if it was possible

[@tyeishaperkins5199]

Yes but 100 subscribers that hard I only had my mom join the helium mobile hotspot in has 5 plan and she has 20 plan

[@DoItJustinKace]

It wouldn’t be hard if the device was in a mall or a store that people lingered for a long time. Maybe a restaurant.

[@tyeishaperkins5199]

@@DoItJustinKace that true like if family own a business in get ever body two use ur service you can make it so might not be hard like you said I can problem do myself tho like open new account but u pefer having people to join In pay there own service

[@cmulcrypto1463]

Have you checked our Karrier One? They are on SUI and are still in early adopter phase. Looks like it could be something like Helium mobile

[@DoItJustinKace]

I’ll take a look! How’s the ROI look to you?

[@cmulcrypto1463]

@@DoItJustinKace TBH it is super early. They just released the early Adopter NFT's a few days ago. there is a FAQ in their Discord. Basically they are a DeWi (Decentralized Wireless) carrier and will be deploying their own 5G/LTE carrier grade network. already have telcom setup in Canada. I am always late to these and saw this one was trending up on a site and figured $90 for an NFT was a good Risk at this point

[@nmiklasz]

i have plan and hotspot. i ordered another hotspot should i put it in a different location or have 2 in one location? any ideas

[@DoItJustinKace]

Wi-fi? I'd do different locations.

[@nmiklasz]

i have my current one wired. can do wired for new one as well @@DoItJustinKace

[@noahswarz4914]

I activated multiple phones I had on other plans. Unfortunately only my main phone is getting rewarded most of the time. The other two phones I carry with me don't get any rewards even after getting over 700 events. My extended family phones are the same. They are not getting rewarded everyday. One even drives around a lot every day for work and sometimes it goes 3+ days with no rewards even with over 1300 events everyday 🤷‍♂ not sure why it's happening

[@DoItJustinKace]

Can you tell me differences in rewards? I’m about to release a video about how the rewards operate and at the end of the day the video shows that I have no idea!

[@noahswarz4914]

@@DoItJustinKace The only info I can provide is the following. I just took a drive. I was home all day so here are the results from the drive from 0 events. 136, 73, 2. The one that received the 2 is a network locked phone on verizon so I understand it may not work as intended 🤷‍♂. The one with the most is an iphone 12, the 73 is a cheap android phone. Lets see what this week brings. Hopefully at least the two with good events get some rewards. I'll give you an update. I believe we are still connected on facebook from your helium group

[@noahswarz4914]

@@DoItJustinKace today over 960 events on two phones and 385 on the other. NO REWARDS YET

[@MAKING.MOTION]

I’m just mapping not even on there service got 8000 mobile

[@DoItJustinKace]

What are you using to map?

[@MAKING.MOTION]

@@DoItJustinKace iPhone

[@doomslayerforever2858]

im glad they are still pushing forward ill just keep collecting from my iot miners

[@DoItJustinKace]

That’s what I’m doing. I haven’t seen any data transfer though. I wish I could tell.

[@letsseehowitgoes119]

If i have two phones signed up to Mobile do i earn double the points if i carry both phones with me? Also you mentioned, when somone uses the hotspot you earn data credit. How does someone use the hotspot?

[@DoItJustinKace]

I don’t know. I don’t have two phones signed up. As for your second question you just switch from whatever Wi-Fi you’re on to the Helium Wi-Fi. But you have to be set up to use their service on your phone or have the app with the service login.

[@LucasLand]

I bought am apple iPhone SE as a second phone with its own helium service. I rarely use it but keep it in my pocket. its earning the same amount of rewards.

[@1chinaloa1]

do you recommend the Helium indoor or outdoor mobile hotspot for residential? or get the freedomfi

[@DoItJustinKace]

You have to look at planner.hellohelium.com/ and see what makes the most sense for where you live.

[@aureliomoscoso6420]

I'm going to use your code on both of my helium phones. Didn't know about the iPhone aspect. This is exciting.

[@DoItJustinKace]

Keep in mind, though you can only use one phone at a time for discovery mapping. it shuts down discovery mapping on the other phones that use the same account. And I’m finding it really odd that the rewards don’t actually go up that much with more events.

[@noahswarz4914]

@@DoItJustinKace Have you found a good resource explaining how mapping and rewards work? some of my lines and family don't get rewards even with good amount of events 🤷‍♂🤷‍♂

[@gotrice101]

What about if I travel International? Is International coverage included?

[@DoItJustinKace]

I don’t think helium mobile is international but you can ask them.

[@LovethisNation]

U.S. only. No international yet

[@carmigranny]

Thanks for the information, is it possible to use the Internet for free after I install one?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Up to 40gb on your phone through your hotspot monthly.

[@carmigranny]

@@DoItJustinKace Can I buy a hotspot with mobile tokens?

[@DoItJustinKace]

@@carmigranny not that I’m aware of.

[@CryptoDealz]

This is great news! Thank you for sharing.

[@DoItJustinKace]

You bet!

[@maximuscryptosx9424]

Outside is deployed .. printing $$$ every day... LFG!

[@DoItJustinKace]

Nice!

[@maximuscryptosx9424]

@@DoItJustinKace so far the rewards suck .. covering 59 hexes ... same rewards as the indoor

[@DoItJustinKace]

@@maximuscryptosx9424 Did you open a ticket about it with freedomfi? This was covered 2 days ago in the mobile-announcements channel on Discord.

[@maximuscryptosx9424]

@@DoItJustinKace I don't have Freedom..I have Nova Labs

[@Unboxedonyt]

Let me ask you the most important question. Do you feel people are early to mobile mining, or is it like when you jumped into hnt mining that it was almost at the top

[@DoItJustinKace]

I’m not sure what you mean by top. But early would’ve been a year ago. Now things are changing quick. We’re not gonna get the rewards that people got when they got in early.

[@Unboxedonyt]

@@DoItJustinKace that’s with cbrs, but the 5g antena is different?

[@Unboxedonyt]

@@DoItJustinKace there are still less than 3k 5G antennas out there compared to 1 million IOT devices or 7k CBRS.

[@noahswarz4914]

not that you asked me but, we are at the beginning of a possible bull market in general and in crypto. Early was a year back, but it's not late yet. Rewards may come down but the price may increase just like what happened to HNT and IOT hotspots before the top of the market (not financial advice 🤣)

[@illestwhite]

Nice review, thanks brother.

[@DoItJustinKace]

You bet!

[@ZombieCorp999]

Is this only in the US?

[@DoItJustinKace]

Mobile is currently.

[@curtainsblow]

Justin so it means when you are at home you turn of your wifi so you use the mobile data from the mobile sim ?

[@DoItJustinKace]

I don’t have to turn off my personal Wi-Fi. I Just move over to the Helium hotspot.

[@CryptoDealz]

When I am at home I turn my phone’s WiFi off in order to use the data from my hotspot.

[@curtainsblow]

Thanks y'all

[@MrYoshikado]

And the mobile rewards r going less n less

[@DoItJustinKace]

Yep. 2,227 radios online. Which is why we need those data transfer rewards.

[@trendtrader4010]

Great upload !!

[@DoItJustinKace]

Thank you! Cheers!