The "Flintstones feel" mentioned by a playtester seems to tie into the tone and art style. A lot of mid 1900s Hanna Barbara cartoons had a dirty, empty look to them because of how quickly they were rushed out. Considering that the MOTHER 3 N64 team was very inexperienced in 3D, and looking at what little public screenshots and footage there is, it seems that this is what he meant- it has a primitive look and feel due to the inexperience of the team behind it.
@wolfetteplays88942 жыл бұрын
A lot of cartoons these days still have the same sort of aesthetic, though with uncannily clean lines
@ShyGuyXXL9 ай бұрын
I thought they said it because you play with dinosaurs early in the game.
@MishKoz3 жыл бұрын
11:37 all this time we've never known Flint's last name, but clearly it's Stone.
@anonymousanonymous57323 жыл бұрын
I have a strong feeling Kumatora was supposed to die like the other Magipsies in the release game, given her unused animation. Makes more sense now how Flint would be present in the final dungeon.
@maagic2031 Жыл бұрын
Could have been really cool/sad if at one point she was unknowingly Locria and not Fassad.
@Slenderquil3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad people are actually documenting things about this game. Information about it used to really be scatted all over the place
@MoonSarito Жыл бұрын
Same.
@amdon61763 жыл бұрын
I want earthbound 64 soo badly. I wish there was a time machine so I could go to the past and take (steal) a copy of mother 3.
@dallai36153 жыл бұрын
We might get a leak, we never know
@toceeno8743 жыл бұрын
Why steal one when you could just download a translated rom
@yavuzsahin74203 жыл бұрын
@@toceeno874 Dude, he is talking about the N64 version of Mother 3.
@toceeno8743 жыл бұрын
@@yavuzsahin7420 I kno I was joking
@Josuh3 жыл бұрын
Who says you haven't? You have leaked the build in the future, you just don't know it yet
@PressStartToContinueYT3 жыл бұрын
Hey! I just did a video on Earthbound 64 and I have to say you did a great job on this! I certainly learned a lot :)
@spencerbove54373 жыл бұрын
If the prototype for EB64 were to finally get released, I would be so happy, there’s so many unanswered questions I have on it
@JammerRammy3 жыл бұрын
The leak of Dinosaur Planet 64 gives me hope tha someday a Earthbound 64 rom/beta build gets leaked on the internet We can all dream, right?
@Mr__Jack3 жыл бұрын
In terms of the Eagleland/New Pork City screenshots, my belief was always that rather than Leder just vaguely telling you that the people of the Nowhere Islands moved there because they couldn’t live anywhere else, you were actually at one point going to travel beyond the Nowhere Islands and see/learn in greater detail what happened to the rest of the world that caused everyone to have to move to the Nowhere Islands. That’s always been my theory though the New Pork City thing makes sense too
@ryanhernandez8324 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't Leder say the rest of the world sank tho (I might be misremembering (or that's Windwaker))
@KiwiEvilFruit Жыл бұрын
The thing I most want to know is what Itoi meant when he said that the original ending of Mother 3 would have been meant to "betray the player"
@AluminumFusion227 күн бұрын
He still kind of did in the final version. After the Dragon seemingly destroys the world, you can move around in the END screen and talk to different characters you've met throughout the game. You wouldn't know to do that unless you started randomly pressing buttons on the END screen. Most players would probably shut the game off after seeing the END screen and assumed that was it, so the game continuing after the END screen could be Itoi's way of betraying the player.
@dinglepuss85943 жыл бұрын
Great vid. the mother 3 we got was still a masterpiece but man it seemed as though the n64 version was alot more ambitious in its scale what would it have been like? I find it fascinating we've never stumbled upon images of the masked man or Porky. How would things be different if this game released.
@kennedymedina42343 жыл бұрын
A lot as it would be a lot more darker and depressing according to Itoi
@RadiantBlazeVA3 жыл бұрын
Really do hope the gods shine upon us and a Earthbound 64 prototype is found so we can see it in all of its glory. Awesome video, I love hearing about this game and what could have been, also I really like your pfp lol.
@Josuh3 жыл бұрын
I assume it would be like the early screenshots of Zelda 64 which showed a town full of big houses
@AluminumFusion22 Жыл бұрын
@@JosuhI don't think so. Zelda 64's beta had Link in towns with big buildings because Nintendo was testing the limits of how far they could push the hardware. I assume MOTHER 64 would have more realistic expectations and have the buildings scale down.
@moister37277 ай бұрын
This game has me crazy. That french magazine stated that it would launch some day. My theory is that either it would've not been as long as the final game, or bits of the story were changed/later added on the final GBA launch. Probably the story was more lighthearted, or maybe it was just the same.
@tornekotaloon97323 жыл бұрын
It's so bizarre that Nintendo seems to have some kind of obligation to keep any info pertaining to Mother 3 64 under wraps. What's the harm in releasing some concept art at least? I feel like Nintendo has some kind of weird idea that showing any footage of a game prior to it's release would undermine the final product in some way, as there is so little development information about any of Nintendo's games that was actually released by Nintendo. What a shame, and I hope someone finds a prototype one day. I really hope a collector isn't sitting on a prototype full of EPROMs, or a N64DD disk. The lifespan of the data on those is finite, and we've seen collectors hoard prototypes thinking only about their value and giving no thought to preservation.
@Player-dw3pe2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderchamberlain9285 That's not the point...
@cellophanezebra46633 жыл бұрын
Considering Flint was suppose to be in certain scenes i believe they were planning that you can switch party members like the Final Fantasy series
@jopeperoni2 жыл бұрын
They were.
@MoonSarito Жыл бұрын
I still dream of the day that the Earthbound/Mother 64 beta/prototype leaks, without a doubt it will be the biggest leak in gaming history, maybe even bigger than StarFox 2 and Luigi in Super Mario 64.
@puffleperson3 жыл бұрын
Here's an interesting observation: Notice how the new age retro hippie is shown travelling in a pig drawn wagon in one screenshot? There's unused text in the final game about a healer living in Item guy's wagon....
@Man_Jr._Studios3 жыл бұрын
Bro. Imagine one day we get a 3D Earthbound game with improved character models and everything.
@neonkenomi3203 жыл бұрын
Till this day, I still wonder what the significance of the Crop Circle screenshot served in the plot.
@ms0463 жыл бұрын
This was a really good and interesting video! EarthBound 64's one of those betas that really interests me tbh, and I definitely think you did a good job explaining the iceberg
@SuperRetro64 Жыл бұрын
17:46 I feel like there’s still a prototype out there, there has to be. My guess is that maybe Itoi has it or it’s in Hal’s archives. Nintendo themselves are really good about archiving prototypes, betas, and source codes if the giga leaks was anything to go off of. I’d say our chances of seeing it depends on a potential new giga leak. If they found other lost prototypes of games we haven’t seen before, then I have no doubt in my mind that Mother 64 is in their archives.
@diggydang75063 жыл бұрын
when time travel becomes a thing, i hope somone gets a copy of Earthbound 64 and changes the future
@Josuh3 жыл бұрын
Depends on what rules apply to the time travel, since we still aren't seeing Earthbound 64, it's almost safe to assume that the timeline remains unchanged and a new one got the game 😔
@indigoasis3 жыл бұрын
New Earthbound 64 footage: "Allow me to introduce myself..."
@williammerwin18503 жыл бұрын
lol
@babysinclairfan3 жыл бұрын
My theory is that the Tazmily theme was replaced by Sorrowful Tazmily/Mind of a Thief. All songs that use the Tazmily theme melody are from scenes that appeared in the eb64 trailer and screenshots like salsa's delivery service and the final battle with porky. It also appears in one of dcmc's songs, but the song is cut off in the final game. We know for a fact that dcmc was around since the beginning There may also have been a cut chapter involving flint and the boys going about their daily life in Tazmily. That would explain why the unused theme is in the jukebox.
@Matto-50003 жыл бұрын
12:24 That pigmask villager screenshot is very uncanny.
@nyxologymedia41363 жыл бұрын
Somebody needs to leak this game next, if anybody can dig this from the grave like Forest of Illusion did with Dinosaur Planet.
@shadowthephoenix111 ай бұрын
Ever since a lot of the beta OOT assets resurfaced in 2020 or 2021 i think it was i've been really hoping something similar happens with a Mother 3 prototype, it might never happen but theres been a lot of N64 leaks fairly recently so theres always hope imo
@DaEgg1233 жыл бұрын
Thanks everyone for all the support on this video, I have another EB64 discussion video in the works. For now, here’s an invite to a new EarthBound 64 discord! discord.gg/5f6cM6j6mq
@SK-pk9zu3 жыл бұрын
Love the video. But the music might be a little to loud
@cirrus12863 жыл бұрын
you really should pin this
@LUXAETERNA43 жыл бұрын
I demand to see Mother 3 Itoi's cut
@bobbillans67153 жыл бұрын
As sad as it is that we lost EB64, the Mother 3 we got is more than likely better than EB64 would have been.
@0054nee3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video! Earthbound 64 lives in my head rent free so coming to know information I didn't have idea was floating around is pretty cool (even wiki articles and looking on the web doesnt show you stuff like this), if we got a couple prototypes from SpaceWorld already I am expecting an Earthboung 64 demo to surface one day... Reading interviews you can tell a lot of work and love was put into E64 so I thank you for compiling all of this and explaining it!
@rossmerchant84353 жыл бұрын
3:42 lol the two-headed kraken looks like Jar Jar Binks
@lucacc44733 жыл бұрын
Girl with time machine : I am your daughter Boy with time machine: Just fucking release Earthbound 64 then release mother 4
@AluminumFusion227 күн бұрын
An official MOTHER 4 still wouldn't be a thing. Itoi made the games because he was upset he couldn't see his daughter as often due to being divorced from his wife, and he said that the desire to make more MOTHER games faded away when his daughter got older.
@bronzepenguincp3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. I've been a MOTHER 3 fan for over 10 years now and I am so happy new information is still coming out about the beta. I hope some day the beta will be leaked and we can experience Itoi's original vision for the game.
@floatingbooks40582 жыл бұрын
12:19 "We participated in a genocide, Barney." also i love Kleen Duster
@ThunderboltYoutube3 жыл бұрын
As a Mother 3 fan, I find the Mother 64 info very fascinating and interesting especially on how it differed from the final GBA Mother we have now. It's unfortunate that we don't have more information and footage on the game but fingers crossed we'll one day find what we're looking for
@ZachHonest2 жыл бұрын
Your content is underrated, I was going into this thinking this was going to be surface level information, and my god was I wrong. I didn't know any of this stuff. Thanks man this was a good time!
@QweRinatrtY3 жыл бұрын
14:48 this sounds very similar, if not completely identical to OMORI's tag mechanic
@Josuh3 жыл бұрын
What's omori?
@QweRinatrtY3 жыл бұрын
@@Josuh an Earthbound inspired game released on 25 dec. 2020, which is a psychological horror game. while the game does have some pacing issues it is still a very good 20 hour experience
@babysinclairfan3 жыл бұрын
Did anyone notice Scamp's ghost in the Itoi screenshots? In mother 3, scamp is a random old man who dies during the time skip and never really serves any purpose. In the Itoi screenshots, Scamp can be seen in the background of a photo with his family (He looks different, kind of like dampe from Zelda) and later as a ghost. Edit: upon closer inspection, it's not Scamp, but Wess! Would mother 3 have ghosts like in earthbound? Or did Wess die at some point?
@williammerwin18503 жыл бұрын
I think Mother 64 was just going to have party members turn into ghosts, especially since Wess is shown KOed in a battle with the Pork Trooper that came with the same batch of screenshots (Also, Wess was going to be a bigger party member)
@WilfredCthulu3 жыл бұрын
This is really cool. I appreciate having all this stuff compiled together as others said and there's a lot I've never seen. I love how an iceberg on an unreleased game can exist too lol.
@enricooler14333 жыл бұрын
great video, good music taste.
@BenSliwa3 жыл бұрын
Great Video - I remember being in awe when I saw the photos in my Nintendo Power magazine back in the day.
@kabukimanindahouse2 жыл бұрын
hey, we eventually got the zelda overdump and that was already thought to not exist. so maybe someday we will have some remnants on some yet unknown dev cart
@bugholdersepiphany2 жыл бұрын
One day I hope we see Mother 64 finally taken out of the vaults of Nintendo. That day I can die happy.
@Epsilonsama2 жыл бұрын
What's sad is while Mother 3 on the GBA was and still is a great game it seems that the n64 version was going to be much larger in scale. The GBA version pretty much streamlined the story and content to be better condusive to a portable gaming experience. A ton of the cuts were probably on Flint's involvement and the Ending. In the GBA version Flint for example shows up out of the blue around the end while in EB64 it would have been less jarring cause he was more involved in the story.
@mutaku64133 жыл бұрын
I still would have preferred the N64 over the GBA version. The N64 has an charming aesthetic look. I don't know if the composed sounds for the EB64 were reused for the GBA version but it clearly was a masterpiece.
@mammamia45963 жыл бұрын
Shid why this isnt popular? This is amazing Underrated
@RhiBread2 жыл бұрын
the more i hear about mother 3/earthbound 64 the more i wish we actually had it in some form ;; i yearn for someone to find whatever development they had someday, but i doubt we'll ever get it :(
@livvy943 жыл бұрын
Dang that was comprehensive. Thanks for making this!
@wolfetteplays88942 жыл бұрын
Really thought provoking video. Really makes you wonder what would’ve happen if it had actually came out for 64DD
@joshwannapaas3 жыл бұрын
wow holy shit this video has less than 1k views but this is really well made. Hope it blows up soon
@wherearethegoodusernames3 жыл бұрын
this was done really well!! i love learning about earthbound 64, gréât vidéo :)
@MarioPfhorG3 жыл бұрын
We eventually got StarFox 2 and Dinosaur Planet, I have hope Mother 64 and Dragon Hopper will be found eventually
@numburger3 жыл бұрын
I honestly would love to play Mother 64. I'm pretty bad at rpg's but the graphical charm is so... charming for the lack of a better word
@doglikedude3 жыл бұрын
swag video bf
@Ayyem933 жыл бұрын
Imagine not having pirated and applied the English language patch to Mother 3 in 2021
@aseluxna36772 жыл бұрын
I love mother 3 GBA, But damn i wish we could've gotten N64 ver..
@whirl36902 жыл бұрын
I wonder what things would have been like if Mother 3 was released for the N64 and localized as Earthbound 64, even if it was after the Gamecube came out. My sister did have an N64 in its day which has been in my house for as long as I can remember, and there are some N64 games that I have fond memories of when I was very young like Yoshi's Story and Smash Bros. Perhaps "Earthbound 64" could be one of those same games that I played, and I would have nostalgia for it, or more likely just the beginning of it since I had a track record of getting stuck in easy areas in games. On a similar note, has anyone else experienced that feeling where you had this area in a game as a kid you couldn't get past for the life of you, so it just remains unfinished for years and years, until you come back to it when you are older and better at games, and finally get to experience what came after? Finally being able to see what lay beyond that one part is so surreal, like you've just discovered one of those huge mysteries in a classic game, like what was under the ice in Zora's Domain, but on an even larger scale since there's basically a whole game ahead of it.
@Kurisu5453 жыл бұрын
Is this really your first video? I really liked it, it's really well explained!
@emo-nordegraf3 жыл бұрын
Ive never played any mother/ earthbound games, and dont plan on doing so anytime soon, but earthbound 64 is so cool to me. I hope it does get leaked sometime, I absolutely love lost video game media/ beta content.
@Sweetbutters1603 жыл бұрын
This is actually my pretty cool! You deserve more subs! This was interesting :)👍
@SwaggyG_21023 жыл бұрын
Great analysis and ice cube! I just know that Mother 64 will get leaked! Eventually soon... Hopefully.
@ironwelder-fz2xk3 жыл бұрын
I think fuels mom would have sacrificed herself for a fuel with the two-headed kraken
@alexanderchamberlain9285 Жыл бұрын
Fuels mother tobacco went missing before the events of EB64
@ivythay42593 жыл бұрын
There are so many betas and unreleased games that really need to get leaked to the public someday. Mother 3 64 and Kirby GCN come to mind first, but I'm probably forgetting many more, important ones.
@cathyas37493 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure somewhere on starman.net an interview with someone said gba mother 3 is. Like just mother 3 plotwise. Not much was changed.
@DaEgg1233 жыл бұрын
That’s not necessarily true, I think what that interview meant was that while yes the general outline was the same (Flint loses his wife to the Mecha Drago, he seeks revenge, Duster goes to Osohe to get the egg, comes back with Wess & finds Kumatora, Salsa gets kidnapped by the Pigmasks & Fassad forces him to deliver the boxes, Lucas goes to find Duster in Titiboo, Lucas & party go to the Thunder Tower in disguise, The Needle Hunt, Final confrontation in New Pork) a lot of the finer details and other pieces of polish weren’t present or were changed in the gba version. I think stuff like the timeskip being longer originally is good evidence of this
@KnottsBear-yTalesPreserved2 жыл бұрын
I hope one day we see a prototype of this game. I really want to see what this version of Mother 3 was like before it kicked the bucket...
@Kh3micalX82 жыл бұрын
I've always been hoping an early build of this game will appear online someday.
@sunday-vf7jc3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great vid, I didn't know about all that was on the iceberg so this was super cool! Subbed and I hope u make more vids👍
@willroges63702 жыл бұрын
How much of a gamer move would it be if the next restoration is Saran Valley and it’s put directly after this in the playlist
@spongegar3 жыл бұрын
Crazy how Mother 3 is one of the best games ever made and the US release is a fan-translated romhack of an N64 game that was scrapped and downgraded into a GBA game
@yoshikoopa95452 жыл бұрын
21:42 This is weird, but it looks like salsa on to robot legs
@ciaragarrity64252 жыл бұрын
One of the enemies in the old game looks like a creeper from the Minecraft game. It also looks like a slime blob.
@enricooler14333 жыл бұрын
fairies is most likely a final version of the tazmily village theme. it fits gba mother 3 a bit more
@doglikedude3 жыл бұрын
i told him that but he forgot to add that in the video
@enricooler14333 жыл бұрын
@@doglikedude ah i see
@sahilhossian8212 Жыл бұрын
Lore of EarthBound 64 momentum 100
@spmscout Жыл бұрын
I have my own theory on the whole "English localization quietly cancelled" theory, rather i think Nintendo of America were going to temporarily shelve the English release of Earthbound 64 until a definitive announcement of the game's completion was given to them (though we all know what happened to the game in the end)
@retrossk3 жыл бұрын
Great video!!
@figgywoofy17243 жыл бұрын
Bald flint looks like duster. Dang ive been playing this game for 8 years, and I still don't think I completely grasp the whole thing.
@acethethirdking2 жыл бұрын
it's a shame that Mother 3 never got to be completed for the N64. and because of that we never got a 3d mother/earthbound game
@nathanielzuranski3 жыл бұрын
Every single character model is extremely uncanny.
@DevotedOgrim05 Жыл бұрын
Why does the characters looks like cursed parodies? Ok, i would have the same reflection if i was fighting any 15 seconds.
@Sodavape3 жыл бұрын
Very awesome video. I wish earthbound 64 existed. It sucks but at least we have the GBA version.
@Hanz-k2m10 ай бұрын
20:42 til about 20:49 is in German, now I dont need to translate it in my head. YAAAAAAY
@tobbyhappy35723 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@wannabestrega2 жыл бұрын
They took out the kraken cuz they resembled Jar Jar Binks :p
@Menfiz3 жыл бұрын
underrated video
@sm_liam52793 жыл бұрын
amazing vid, taught me a ton!
@ProtoMan04512 жыл бұрын
very great and informative video but i have a suggestion. you should either raise the volume of your dialogue or lower the volume of the music, in some sections like at 12:00 the music is playing just a little too loudly over your speech and its somewhat hard to hear properly. i subscribed tho
@atomu272 ай бұрын
best game ever....
@AlphaDog263 жыл бұрын
Good video. Although, the mixing of the audio could have been better. Sometimes, the music was louder than your voice.
@DaEgg1233 жыл бұрын
That’s definitely something I noticed not long after I uploaded this, rest assured my future content won’t have this issue :P
@fanficsj.a.r.uelsalvador9427 Жыл бұрын
saludos desde el salvador y me encantan tus iceberg y me gustaria hacer tu iceberg pero en español ya que acá lo tines en ingles
@Anu_Sol2 жыл бұрын
'Claws' lol.
@cryptidcloud3 жыл бұрын
great video! only complaint is that you didn't read out the titles of each individual point
@ZappyWappy3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but where’s mr gene- good video
@Rackatiakka3 жыл бұрын
Thx that was really cool
@chiipan73 жыл бұрын
Epic swagsauce video.
@cartoongodelitedevy4051 Жыл бұрын
I saw on the Cutting Room Floor that apparently, Porky's Spider Mech was in the N64 version. Do we have any evidence of that? I know Porky was in the N64 version, due to the fact that Itoi said that he heavily relied on Porky once.
@DaEgg123 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, in a 2011 interview with the EB64’s enemy designer, he said “Since Pokey was to appear in the 64 version, too, I designed Pokey, his team, and the place he lived in. The spider mech was in the 64 version, too, but since I haven’t played the GBA version, I’m not sure if the design was the same in the end.” Beyond that, it’d make sense for the Spider Mech to have been in EB64, since it was something established back in Mother 2.
@cartoongodelitedevy4051 Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, I remember reading that interview. And the point of it being established in Earthbound, I mean yeah, but the Mother 3 Spider Mech looks vastly different, looking more like a hospital bed/coffin compared to the wrinkly seat on legs in EB. Though, I guess Porky could've tricked Dr. Andonuts to upgrade it, I mean, Porky basically did the same to get the Absolutely Safe Capsule... which kinda feels like the Phantom Zone from Superman now that I think about it.
@Perrier_enjoyer3 жыл бұрын
I hate the character designs from earthbound 64. I’m actually glad that we got the gba version instead since the art direction is much better
@lane33982 жыл бұрын
I actually like both as they both have different feels to their art styles. I like the somewhat more serious art style of 64, but the GBA version works with the more humorous scenes and dialogue better. Overall I like both for different reasons.
@Zeroantagonist883 жыл бұрын
great vid! make more vids! jus subbed to you!
@Rice__BEANS3 жыл бұрын
Music is too loud sometimes 😣
@Bobb118813 жыл бұрын
Has anyone considered asking Itoi directly about a lot of things? I've come up with a bunch of questions I'd ask him if I had the chance. Also, has anyone followed the lead of the potential cartridge at Brownie Brown?
@DaEgg1233 жыл бұрын
I can tell you, many people have considered asking Itoi directly about a lot of things, it’s just that getting answers for questions about the game is a lot more difficult than it may seem… Also, 1-Up Studios (the company formally known as Brownie Brown) may or may not have a cartridge for it. But at the end of the day, they’re not gonna release or leak an internal Nintendo thing that’s confidential, unfortunately.
@Bobb118813 жыл бұрын
@@DaEgg123 I don't think you see what I'm getting at. Itoi is the author of the game's script and a partial owner of the IP. If anyone is able to speak freely without worrying about NDAs, it would be him, right? I could be totally wrong, but there's no harm in trying. Same with the cartridge. I don't think they still have it. Someone took it home just like what happened with Dinosaur Planet. Whoever took it probably knows what happened to it next. If you find out who knows what happened to it, you can find where it is. Can't hurt to try.
@DaEgg1233 жыл бұрын
@@Bobb11881 That’s exactly the thing though, I’m aware of many people who have attempted to contact Itoi about EB64 through places such as Twitter, and he’s never responded to any queries about it. It certainly doesn’t hurt to try, and I don’t mean to discourage anyone searching for more info about this game (quite the opposite actually) but sadly, it doesn’t seem that Itoi will suddenly begin opening up about this project he worked on over 20 years ago when for years prior to now, he’s hardly ever addressed it ever. As for the cartridge, it certainly would be the ideal situation that someone that wasn’t Nintendo themselves took it from Brownie Brown. Sadly, we can’t be sure on what exactly happened to any physical prototypes. I only hope we can see one resurface soon.