Earthrise WFC-E9 Starscream | DrLockdown Reviews 67

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[@DrLockdown]

As a heads up, I am fully aware of the two-pack. Looks comparable to the Siege Thundercracker and Skywarp, but again...the Siege ones are better. Also they ruined the face sculpt with dull surprise.

[@callumcrane241]

Ok the last two intrege me. But I don't think I know them.

[@DrLockdown]

Last two what?

[@callumcrane241]

@@DrLockdown 0:42 I remember now. I know about TFW. But I guess that last one is new to me.

[@DrLockdown]

Seibertron. A similar site to TFW

[@callumcrane241]

@@DrLockdown Good to know. Thanks for telling me😁

[@GeorgiawithaG]

Wow, you pretty much nailed every issue I have with this mold. I just don't understand how much praise it's getting, especially compared to the Siege mold, when it's quite obviously a case of "We modernized and upscaled the classics mold".

[@DrLockdown]

The modernization in itself isn't an issue; it's the laziness

[@meganura1559]

Finally someone who dosent say "Its So Much Better Then The Seige One's"

[@DrLockdown]

Yeah a lot of reviewers are taking 'more geewun' as 'better', but thankfully a lot of other TF fans seem to be realising it ain't all that.

[@cartkart1]

I don’t think anyone says that

[@DrLockdown]

Not most of them, but definitely a large portion

[@chriscarpenter3370]

even though it is

[@USSMariner]

It isn't tho

[@soundwavegamer2321]

Earthrise Starscream: oh how it pains me to do this *smirks* Siege Starscream: wait I still function! Earthrise Starscream: want a bet! Siege Starscream: so this is how it feels liiiiiiiiiiiike! Megatron: what was that noise? Earthrise Starscream: oh I got of some garbage. Megatron: oh ok.

[@DrLockdown]

This except the other way around. Siege is easily superior

[@soundwavegamer2321]

DrLockdown the joke was the inferior toy was getting rid of the superior toy like how the inferior leader got rid of the superior leader

[@DrLockdown]

Ah. Fair

[@Cybertux-zp3fo]

Thank you sooo much for this review. I was coming close to caving in and getting the seekers again but i’m going back to waiting for the coneheads

[@DrLockdown]

Yeah I do still want at least one conehead. I just don't feel like going all-in again

[@WarriorWildhead1337]

I cant believe DrLockdown admitted to thinking Starscreams feet are sexy ha ha

[@DrLockdown]

From a design standpoint. Its a figure of speech

[@det.bullock4461]

The knees have a tab behind not just the one at the front, lining them up needs some work but they make the legs more solid (I didn't notice until I saw Emgo's review). I wouldn't be surprised if they cut the wing tabs because a lot of poses would require to untab them anyway with the null-rays on the shoulders bumping on the wings, but it's also possible they may be pre-tooling for accessories of some sort. I guess they really wanted the arms to have better proportions than the original version of the mold so they went for that instead of making them a bit shorter.

[@Jay_Rodimus]

As someone who loves this mold (literally because I had the classics one as a kid and always wished it was bigger so it scratches that irrational childhood itch), I can't really argue with anything you've said here. "He's out of line but... he's right" 🤣. In all seriousness, I'm new to your content so I've been checking out your backlog and your critique is just on point. Rarely if ever do I see you say anything unfair in either direction. And never has anyone made me feel so simultaneously validated AND called out when reviewing figures I like 🤣

[@DrLockdown]

I mean even if you disagree with everything i say, your opinion remains just as valid. Just one point in a multitude of KZbin reviewers

[@animeking1357]

I see the problems, I understand the problems, and yet I still want him. Might be because I don't have a G1 Starscream but he just looks great. Also I'm really not a fan of the tetra jets so the Siege figure is a no go for me.

[@NightmareZerogbs]

So, after 3 years, the Earthrise mould giving us the 3 main Seekers, the 3 Coneheads and 3 additional G2 Coneheads WHO ALL USED RAMJET'S WINGS INSTEAD OF DARING TO BE CREATIVE FOR ONCE AND GIVING CLOUDCOVER DIRGE'S WINGS AND SANDSTORM THRUST'S WINGS _and_ the fact that on only did the Siege mould come back, but gave us Sparkless, SG Starscream, NACELLE and Senator Shockwave from the far superior Mould...how do you feel, Doc?

[@chip5838]

I can't believe that I just learned about the landing gear on the Universe mold after owning my Acid Storm for over four years

[@Traph]

The SS86 version of this guy with the coronation gear is basically a mini MP, if you can get behind paying 60 bucks for a Voyager with extra accesories and a plastic chair, then I highly recommend that guy.

[@DrLockdown]

I don't like the mould to begin with. I'm not getting the coronation version

[@_V.Va_]

Still has ugly gappy torso sides, no wrist and waist rotation and still has the nose cone on his back. Mini-MP, my ass.

[@Kaizer617]

I'll more than likely see if I can still find the Siege one and somehow get ahold of the Studio Series 86 Coronation Starscream for the sake of having both a Cybertron-Mode Starscream and an Earth-Mode Starscream + a Supreme Leader for only 5 minutes Starscream as a two in one. Both are fine as far as a G1 Starscream goes. And I really don't mind Earthrise Starscream being a Voyager-Class version of the Classics Starscream at all. But.... neither of them are MY Starscream.... [thinks longingly about Armada Starscream] I'm just happy Armada Starscream will be getting a Voyager Class figure in Legacy. Hope it turns out looking and feeling amazing.

[@Wolvie1984]

I'm probably among the few G1ners who loved the Siege toyline. I don't get why they complained so much about it. All the classic characters remade for this line looked exactly like their G1 counterpart. They were recognizable. Hound looked like Hound, Prowl looked like Prowl and Ironhide looked like Ironhide. :/

[@DrLockdown]

Because you can NEVER be too geewun :p

[@Wolvie1984]

Lol. I'm glad to be a more open-minded ''geewun'' and not a toxic one. Surprisingly, even if G1 is my absolute favorite, i loved other iterations of Transformers. I'm a fan of Beast Wars, I'm a fan of Prime, i'm a minor fan of the live-action movies. Some toxic ''geewun'' even called me a false fan because i loved other things outside of G1. Screw them. The most important thing is to be satisfied by the toys you decide to collect and the series you watch. Whatever the generation you are part of. And you, my friend, you are definitely a bigger TF fan than me.

[@DrLockdown]

I don't tend to rank fans. Everyone enjoys differently. A lot of my local TF friends are geewunners too actually, and they're far from toxic

[@Democratic_Republic_of_Iacon]

I cut the robot mode if the seige up from ross for cheap...and then jammed the jetmode on the body. It looks on par with prime and Soundwave finally

[@MaidTailgate]

I like the siege seekers better so I plan on collecting them,but if they make the coneheads i'll buy them. I honestly like the idea of the coneheads looking different from the rest of the seeker.

[@DrLockdown]

You're not alone. I've come across a bunch of people who think the same about the Coneheads

[@COOMGUY]

I will go for the Earth Rise one, only cause of the plastic quality i prefer my bois chuncky and heavy.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

6:24 this music reminds me of Pokemon. I really like earthrise starscream

[@DrLockdown]

Its a cover of a Pokemon song. Had to stop using that artist though; he requested people stop using his music

[@geo-fry6372]

As someone who never owned *any* seeker figure before siege, I quite enjoy the earthrise offering. However, every negative you point out is valid. The only reason I like the earthrise one more is that the only seekers I have are siege Skywarp and earthrise Skywarp. The black color on the earthrise rendition looks better than the dark grey on the siege one. Both are really cool though, and I especially like how the siege tetrajet looks like a BSG viper.

[@cartkart1]

I got this guy without reading any reviews, all I knew was it was an earth mode Starscream, which I preferred to the tetrajet from the siege mold. (Not I prefer the tetrajet after I realized how much better that figure is.) When I got him I was kinda disappointed, which was weird seeing as I almost always watch reviews before getting a figure to see if I’d like it or not, so I don’t have many I dislike. Mine doesn’t have any paint chipping issues except for one spot that was probably my fault, and you can’t see it with the way he’s displayed on my shelf. This guy is not great, but if it weren’t for the hollow chest and crotch flap I’d probably actually like him.

[@MikeRambo]

I do have the Star scream from Classics, as well as Earthwise. Also have Thundercracker from Siege.

[@ZstackZip]

15:35 Wait a minute… I recognize that music… Halo 3 ODST anyone?

[@DrLockdown]

It's a jazz cover. Sadly I'm not allowed to use that musician's work anymore though

[@fearsomefandom3625]

Another great review... And yeah I bought the ER one too. My feelings of nostalgia jump up when I mess with this new Screamer, that's what fuels the obsession. I do agree there were several missed opportunities. And yeah I love the Tetra-Jet mould from siege too, got lucky on the Hotlink fig. The colour scheme is wicked.

[@DrLockdown]

I get that nostalgia is involved, but at the end of the day the better toy is the better toy

[@AnimalTTC]

In my opinion the siege seeker mold is the vastly superior. When it was revealed i was excited. Bought it as soon as I could find it. Hunted it. Earthrise... I literally just saw it on a shelf and went "welp guess I'll see for myself if its any good..." TWO DAYS AGO! Yeah I couldn't even be bothered to put any effort into finding it. I was looking for Hotlink. So literally the earthrise mold was a sad consolation prize to the siege one. That should speak volumes. I would have been more excited for a mold a year plus out that I already had six of over a much newer mold that I had zero of... The classics mold aged like a boxed wine from Walmart and keeping with that this guy is a boxed wine with an easy access spout. Its a little better but still tastes like @$$ and you definitely won't be impressing anyone when you break it out.

[@DrLockdown]

I do like the Classics seeker mould, and in many ways it's better than the Earthrise one, but yeah the best Generations Seeker mould from Hasbro so far is easily the Siege one. Still gotta hunt down Hotlink when he comes out down under, and I also need a Skywarp at some point, but I could honestly buy that mould ten more times and never get bored. The problem is Hasbro should've done something new, from the ground up, as opposed to half-arsing it from figure that's over a decade old.

[@VectorPrimeStopMotion]

13:47 "...They cannot charge leader price for him..." Well, in 2021 Hasbro says: "Jokes on you!" and proudly releases SS86-12.

[@DrLockdown]

Still not waist swivel

[@Megamanlanprime]

@@DrLockdown It would be funny if that is the only change the main bot has - a waist swivel + the crown and cape

[@JaceyMitchell]

To be fair, you were able to get it for a Voyager price not much later when it went into clearance. 😅 Heck my local nerd store still has them on clearance. I do hope we get a proper Studio Series 86 Seeker mold eventually, though. Without the excessive CHUG greebling.

[@VectorPrimeStopMotion]

@@JaceyMitchell Well, not in my region unfortunately. It's actually still sold above retail, unless you dig real deep.

[@cartkart1]

When you said “bit of a bummer” the subtitles said “bits of Obama”

[@thedrifter5531]

am i the only one who thinks having the nullray ports on the bicep would be the best compromise on placement and would enable the best possibility without it looking well weird

[@soundblaster1987reviews]

The black on Skywarp may be able to help disguise the kibble...

[@DrLockdown]

I suppose that's true. I believe it's called the 'nemesis prime effect'. Still doesn't excuse it though.

[@soundblaster1987reviews]

@@DrLockdown it may be more accurate to call it the RID Scourge or Black Convoy effect, since he was the first Nemesis Prime...

[@DrLockdown]

I suppose, but that's what I've heard it called. I didn't make it up.

[@omegamaximus1727]

This Starscream toy is a must buy for me.

[@DrLockdown]

He is solid; just not brilliant.

[@coolmuzt]

@@DrLockdown And you still placed him in the dishonourable mentions of the _worst_ TF figures of 2020. I just can't take you seriously.

[@DrLockdown]

That's a personal list, not a definitive list of quality

[@nicholascgear2002]

I honestly like the idea of having both with one being the cybertronian mode and the other being the earth mode in my collection I've honestly always loved this idea and hope to get both one day. I have a lot to catch up on but hey

[@cyberneticgeek]

Vaughan seems traumatized when you started "wooshing". I think he'll find a new roommate after that.

[@DrLockdown]

Not during a pandemic

[@cyberneticgeek]

@@DrLockdown Then he's going to steal your fridge, barricade his room, plant claymores and mines outside every opening in his room and as a final measure, he will use your Delta Magnus as a hostage.

[@DrLockdown]

NOOOO!!! NOT DELTA MANUS!!!

[@cyberneticgeek]

@@DrLockdown You must load your mp Megatron with the hybrid style convoy and fire it at his heart.

[@DrLockdown]

That's diabolical

[@shadowgames6164]

Honestly, idk why i like the earthrise seeker more than the siege figure without talking about the seige figure. More importantly, i have never owned or even seen the classics mold. The siege figure i have (starscream and hotlink) has the main problem that the shell has to flex so much to fit correctly, and the chest plate would never stay on. Literally any time i transform it, it would pop off without question.

[@michaelkeha]

2 years later and G1 is still what they are milking dry with some minor stops in more interesting territory

[@AllCheatRiders]

I love your (demand the bare minimum attitude)

[@bulkhead7341]

I just got the coronation version and the paint chipping is still a problem, in fact it may even be worse

[@DrLockdown]

Ouch

[@cartkart1]

I just noticed the jet mode is like a rectangle with a flat jet-shaped piece of cardboard overtop

[@DrLockdown]

To be fair, that is most jet transformers

[@barragethree5047]

Mmm source for that Halo: ODST jazz cover?

[@gwoingme]

I was very disappointed that wave 3 of Earthrise doesn’t appear to have made it to Victoria. Looks like I’ll have to venture online to get Sunstreaker

[@DrLockdown]

Apparently it was, but only at a couple of stores. Same in NSW; mates of mine had to get me some, because I never saw it locally.

[@QuartzRoolz]

eh.... look, I like G1 scream's design as much as the next guy, but like... the world has enough G1 Screams. is it so hard for people to try something a little different, just once in a while?

[@DrLockdown]

NO! WARDEN SAYS MORE GEEWUN! YOU GET MORE GEEWUN!

[@ernestocamara7773]

the music really sounds like "deference for darkness" from halo 3 odst

[@banobobot]

This toy overall suffers from being derivative of a much older figure. I don’t know if it’s a retool, but still. Engineering has evolved.

[@issacp6635]

Honestly why are you worried with bottom kibble your not displaying like that

[@DrLockdown]

Because I primarily focus on play aspects, not display. Just how I roll

[@connorbyrne9847]

While I agree that the siege figure is better than earthrise, I have both, I…am having more fun with the earthrise cus of stability. It’s honestly has a solid transformation.

[@TheAutisticOwl]

2:15 What is that tiny Starscream?

[@DrLockdown]

X2 toys

[@TheAutisticOwl]

​@@DrLockdownthanks!

[@onearmouredboipictures8653]

Look, I know how much people like G1, I never grew up with it but I have seen some G1 earlier in life (The 86 movie being a prime example) however I would appreciate more Unicron Trilogy figures or even some Prime ones but for me, I'd like some Studio Series style War for Cybertron/Fall of Cybertron figures because the designs are some of my Faves (Mainly War For Cybertron Optimus and Fall of Cybertron Shockwave) and honestly those Designs need more love. I know Hasbro did those Designs already in Generations but I would like to see those Designs get much better figures and better weapons like Optimus's Axe or Megatron's Mace but that's just me.

[@lakitudude7577]

Woah, i guess you don't really have to remove siege seeker null rays. Til

[@DrLockdown]

It's a pretty cool feature.

[@tarkus1113]

If you never grabbed the Siege Seeker mold (Which most people have) Yeah grab this Starscream. But if you own Siege but wanna keep your copy for a little while, I recommend ER if its on sale. Same with his Seeker brothers that are now $60 U.S. (The upcoming two-pack) IF you never got the Skywarp figure from it the Siege mold.

[@DrLockdown]

I'd still say grab siege instead, since that's about to hit the aftermarket

[@astromotive6047]

​@@DrLockdown Siege Skywarp's aftermarket price would have you say otherwise. He was the only one of the three seekers that I was missing (After Starscream and Thundercracker) yet after seeing how much he goes for on Ebay and various other sites to this very day, I just bit the bullet and got the Earthrise Seekers since getting all 3 of them was actually more affordable than paying upwards of 150+ on just Skywarp.

[@DrLockdown]

I kept thinking that skywarp would go down in price with the advent of the two-pack...but nope. Damn scalpers

[@tarkus1113]

Takara's drop for Skywarp is supposedly to simmer the price

[@DrLockdown]

@@tarkus1113 I assumed it was because Japan never got Skywarp. The only official Hasbro release was done in America and Canada; nowhere else got it. Not that this release will do much. Considering you need a freight forwarder to access Takara Tomy Mall, scalpers can still have a field day.

[@donovanstewart698]

Solid figure, but I feel like the problem with a lot of earthrise figures is I can’t really justify getting them as they are just retooled versions of toys I already bought a year before

[@Carbon-1138]

The halo 3 odst ost in the background is realy great

[@reyonXIII]

As someone who saw the reviews for Core Class Starscream and Megatron, and once said that the latter's Earthrise figure could have benefited from a lot of cues from the Core Class (paint, head, nature of the tank gun, though I take back saying it is what Earthrise outright should've been), what elements from Core Class Scream would you say could've easily been done on ER? For sure, it could've benefited from Siege's joints and kibble management.

[@DrLockdown]

Not sure yet. I don't have that figure, so I can't say for sure.

[@reyonXIII]

It does kind of stink that, for someone who has neither version yet, I feel like I'm only choosing Earthrise as a consolation, coz this definitely was the most divisive character toy-wise. The debate in my head is whether the need for the accurate F-15 jet look outweighs the need for a fun toy to play with.

[@reyonXIII]

​@@DrLockdown Looking at my Henkei Jetfire next to me, given ER Screamer's problems come from being slavishly devoted to the Classics mechanics, you think Classics Jetfire would've been a better starting point but with a lot mods to engineering or could they have done something with the admittedly shellforming (not saying it's bad) Siege?

[@ZstackZip]

I like this mold, I got the G2 Ramjet version But it had a glaring QC issue, the arm joints were too tight, and since the mushroom peg is a separate part pinned into the body, it *tore itself out of it’s housing* Now they’re super loose, since it’s just the pin holding the arm now, and due to the arms pushing outwards more, the chest panel doesn’t sit all the way in in jet mode I tried getting in contact with Hasbro Customer support, and they ghosted me

[@dexterdexter8208]

Are F15 Eagles actually HO scale?

[@ColdTRex]

13:48 This statement aged like milk

[@DrLockdown]

Well, I was half right. In a literal sense, they could. In a figurative one, it turned out rubbish

[@reyonXIII]

Done some more thinking and finally figured out why Earthrise Scream bothers me on a fundamental level, despite it being a fairly neat representation of Earth-mode Starscream, and overall a toy I don't think I'll be bummed at all about getting if that upcoming SS86 Coronation version, if it's real, turns out to just be this. It's not necessarily the flaws that arise from being an upscale of Classics Starscream, but rather that he apparently gets that special preferential treatment because it was "good for its time", but some others who also had previously good engineering don't get that treatment, like Arcee and the usual Ultra Magnus that I've griped about before (I'm over the fact he's an armor former, but I still feel far more should've been done for how the Kingdom version's armor pieces transform to resemble parts of CW's, such as the leg armor pieces). I think that's what makes the fact that he's a Classics upscale leave more of a sour taste in the mouth than it should, because it's two levels of favoritism, one less understandable than the other, that of course being pandering to the Geewunners. It's something that constantly hangs over my head when I hear that ER Scream is explicitly meant to evoke the Classics version, especially when I see the wasted potential of some of his other line mates. Dunno why it bothers me so much, but it does. Maybe coz I wanna like the updates, but in good faith can't.

[@DrLockdown]

Many people are also giving it special treatment because "at least its geewun this time"...which is stupid...

[@reyonXIII]

So are Arcee and Ultra Magnus, moreso the former and they have movie star status, but they don't get that same treatment. Is it coz he's Starscream?

[@DrLockdown]

They do. People give them a pass as well.

[@reyonXIII]

Not by Hasbro's designers at least, but yeah, the fans definitely do. Enough to pass those molds as "updated" or good enough. Shame too, coz people give ER Arcee's shellforming an easy pass coz "accuracy" when the T30 already did things much better. And it's a fanmade design made official when the guy who made it joined Takara. I guess only Hot Rod/Rodimus and Springer get the glow up they deserved.

[@Yesitsmyrealname]

They'res 8 Versions of the Siege Seeker mild as of 2020

[@DrLockdown]

Hotlink isn't out yet

[@Yesitsmyrealname]

@@DrLockdown Not in Australia but he's in a couple Walmart's and that's fair game to count

[@DrLockdown]

@@Yesitsmyrealname Even then, when they announced the seekers there were still only seven.

[@Yesitsmyrealname]

@@DrLockdown Starscream yes but the first Hotlinks were hitting By the time the two pack was announced.

[@cartkart1]

Do you know about the pegs in the back of the shins to help the legs hold together

[@DrLockdown]

Yep. They don't work on mine. They do work on sandstorm, but he comes with a whole heap of issues

[@dexterdexter8208]

BRO! HASBRO! ARE YOU PULLING OUR LEGS!? YOU MADE THE SIEGE SEEKERS, MIGHT I ADD WERE THE BEST SEEKERS WE HAVE EVER GOTTEN ONLY FOR YOU TO RE-OVERUSE THE CLASSICS MOULD AND EVEN FUCK IT UP! WHY?!

[@emmettmacklem1986]

"Paint is extremely durable" on the copy I have his black head paint chipped MORE than the red

[@DrLockdown]

Yikes. Guess I got lucky in that front

[@hatmann5697]

I'm actually ok with earthrise because I'm a newer collector so I get some great figures that aren't masterpiece priced

[@DrLockdown]

It is decently priced, but I still recommend grabbing a tetrajet if you can

[@dinh6684]

Cool you use the Halo ODST ost

[@DrLockdown]

Actually a jazz cover

[@dinh6684]

@@DrLockdown cool

[@stevehandley1]

Wee hheeee. Whoosshh!

[@devilwithin1738]

13:47 spoke too soon...

[@johnnela8898]

Fact of the matter is they all have Issues here and there!!!!

[@the-god-of-fun]

@drlockdown you ca peg the back of the legs in the into the leg

[@DrLockdown]

Doesn't work on my copy. Works on G2 sandstorm, but they just won't stay in place for Starscream. QC gremlin strikes again

[@the-god-of-fun]

@@DrLockdown ahh

[@the-god-of-fun]

The QC Gremlins strike on my copy of thundercracker when the joints were fused together

[@ZstackZip]

I like the conehead version tbh

[@primus4586]

Technically earthrise seekers are based off the f-14 not the f-15 like they should be

[@mikathomo391]

How do u only have 884 subs? Well 885 now.

[@DrLockdown]

Dunno...my guess is it's some algorithm shenanigans. All I can really do is keep hacking away...

[@MrSwindle]

I personally perfer the earthrise mold 1. I just got a generations dirge and im mixed on the og mold 2. Ive had alot of problems with the siege mold(along with earthrise and its something im writing a script on rn 3. Both siege and earthrise are good, which is better depends fully on each individual’s preferences

[@harrisblastaar5081]

Thats ok your opinion but Er is objectively a worse transformer toy than siege

[@johnnela8898]

Even the Master Pieces have little Issues here and there earthrise siege the original classic transformers

[@jakejager]

I don't think it's a fair comparison to siege, they're alien design versus earth design makes them different figures in my opinion...

[@_V.Va_]

It's the way they're handled is the thing.

[@jakejager]

@@_V.Va_ what do you mean? As in engineering?

[@_V.Va_]

Yes.

[@andrewwhitfield5480]

You just have to do better with the volume dude.

[@JomasterTheSecond]

Official OSKO. All I ever say about it. ...also did you just call Starscream's feet *_sexy?!_*

[@DrLockdown]

Yes

[@jimmycolt17]

Really hope Hasbro will move away from G1 for a bit. It’s getting old now, let’s see some other series.

[@DrLockdown]

Im hoping so too, but I'm not holding my breath

[@jimmycolt17]

@@DrLockdown Back in 2012, I was wishing for a G1 line of toys. Siege answered that and it was so fun. But now I’m burnt out on it. I’m worried that this over reliance on G1 will do irreparable damage to the franchise.

[@DrLockdown]

I don't think it will damage it long term, but it is causing a LOT of stagnation

[@cartkart1]

Oh god… No..! No it can’t be happening! It’s so lazy! NOOOOOOO!!!! I’m starting to… _enjoy_ Earthrise Starscream! NOOOOOOO!! In any regular year, an upscaled retool in mainline would be lazy, but I’m guessing they didn’t have time to make an original mold because of Covid, so they thought “hey, people like that Classics mold, let’s just do that!” So looking at it from that angle, it’s not a lazy mess with dated design, it’s an odd decision forced upon us by the pandemic. He is worse than the other modern figures, but that’s because he’s not a modern figure. He’s kind of okay! Honestly, I’m really glad I’m starting to enjoy this guy! I’ve had him for about a year and whenever I’d look at him I’d just get sad… not anymore!

[@Megamanlanprime]

I will never understand people who like the Siege Seeker mold with its terrible transformation, alt mode that looks too generic to be good and a nice robot mode that has too much wing and not enough engineering for anything else… When I compare the Siege to WW (which was a better Tetrajet fight me) and Cybertron (not totally a Tetrajet but it was based on the design) it’s clear as day how weak the Tetrajet design, transformation and figure is. If you guys like it that’s cool, but it’s really not as good as everyone loves to praise it. As for the ER Starscream… he’s okay. Idk I enjoy playing and transforming the Classics mold much better than the ER one. Sure it has more articulation, but the Classics Deluxe feels like a better toy in concept… I’m still not totally sure why. (Also the Coneheads were terrible… if your gonna remold the Seeker mold do it right Hasbro)

[@joechan6937]

I saw your comment by chance and I'm pleasantly surprised someone shares my sentiment towards siege Starscream. Siege SS transformation is just so uninspired and "un-fun"; it's literally folding almost the entire robot under the tetrajet portion. It's really bad for a transformer toy, in my opinion.

[@_V.Va_]

Still has better articulation than ER Scream.

[@Megamanlanprime]

@@_V.Va_ not really… the Siege one doesn’t have Ankle tilt, his arms are also blocked by the wings all the same and the only new thing is a waist swivel which I’ll give up a waist swivel if it meant they could have made the Alt mode better or at least gave some level of effort to that horrid transformation.

[@_marxono_9815]

What do you think is the worst newest transformers masterpiece. In my opinion is Bumblebee 2.0

[@DrLockdown]

Hound. It falls apart. At least bumblebee doesn't break

[@_marxono_9815]

But at least he doesn't have a hunchback.

[@StrykerPrimeProductions]

I actually really like the figure, or rather the leader Corination Starscream. I LOVE the throne helps with a lot of action photos. Also regarding to the opening of the video, f*ck G1ers or “gee-whiners” as I like to call them.

[@g_oduofthenorth9618]

I always find these videos interesting. I suppose if I didn't hate the way the seige one looked, its proportions,, the big hunk of garbage it turns into, and the downright masturbatory pannel lines, I'd definitely concede that structurally, it's the better figure. Not tryna be a dick if you like the way it looks, but for me, the aesthetic is all wrong.