Transformers Classics/Universe Deluxe VS Earthrise Voyager STARSCREAM | Old VS New #23

[@allendeglow9714]

For me, the original plan was just to get the rain makers in the tertajet mode and wait for the earth jet mode for the other seekers. Then my family got me the skywarp pack for Christmas... soo I had to complete the og three

[@willimn.4356]

Allen Deglow I was a fool and did not think about seekers in regular jet modes, now I got six seekers from siege

[@quackhalfling4681]

William Nguyen Jobby fan too eh?

[@DJLuckeyLu]

I got the 3 rainmakers from Siege and the main trio from Earthrise. I'm only missing the coneheads since they're impossible to find at a decent price since I started collecting again sometime around Kingdom.

[@BlockBlazer]

The legs are actually mistransformed. There is a little tab on the back of the inner leg that tabs into the back of the leg. It's pretty difficult to get tabbed in if you don't know how to get it in but once you tab that little tab in the legs are perfectly solid.

[@st0rm3325]

I really just prefer the original Siege Starscream. The possibility on the WFC version is superior, but this vehicle mode is much better.

[@jeremiahsacks2868]

I also feel like the ER version is at best a sidegrade to the classics seeker. At least for me, every improvement is balanced with a deprovement. The robot mode is better but at the cost of a smooth transformation. (Yes I am really angry that they migrated the intakes to the back, and yes that one decision did ruin the whole toy). Yeah it has improved tooling but he doesnt even have proper thrusters.

[@EndHall]

13:34 This hole on the back seems to be made specifically for the Coronation cape! Crazy how they didn’t even have that figure out but still had the components on this one ready.

[@EndHall]

I just picked up the Studio Series Coronation Starscream and loved watching your review of (basically) the same figure! This was my first new transformers figure and really am happy to have this iconic Starscream look. I have the Armada “Thundercracker” version and am hoping to see the OG Armada look in the Voyage line. Great stuff!

[@Jcc2224]

Awesome dude!! Got some good news, they ARE doing an OG Armada Starscream in the Legacy line!

[@Huevito847]

“I don’t feel like waist rotation is a critical point of articulation” Every reviewer within a 60 mile radius: *I’m gonna have to disagree with you there.*

[@catandogclone7880]

Can’t wait to see seeker armies with this new mold

[@jeremiahsacks2868]

I personally feel like the er is a sidegrade at best: for every upgrade there is an equal and opposite downgrade. Yeah the articulation's better but its no longer standard for its time. Yeah the transformation is modernized but the chest and forearms tab together too tightly and the intakes are on the back now, making it worse off. The list could probably go on, where for everything that's better, theres another thing that's worse.

[@Lukusprime]

lol, I’m watching this video years later and I know exactly what you’re talking about with “that thing” going around. Brings back memories (not necessarily good ones obv, but memories all the same)

[@AwesomeMooseSmile]

I think both siege and earthrise seekers are valid, because the Earthrise one is a great update to the classics mold, and the Siege versions are really the only good tri wing seekers ever.

[@benjaminwiseman6567]

Agreed. Objectively, the Siege mold is better, but Earthrise is Starscream as we know him.

[@cartkart1]

My theory is that they wanted an Earth mode Starscream in Earthrise, but because of Covid they didn’t have the time or money or something, so they just upscaled and retooled the Classics one. I heard something about how ER Megatron was not meant to be a retool but because of Covid they had to, it would make sense if this was the case here too.

[@mmorpger0558]

Generations was a good upgrade to the G1. You had a better looking robot mode that looked more like the Toon. Earthrise is even a better version because they did a good job with the coloring, articulation, and posability. They did a better job with the G1 colors to match the cartoon. I don't hate on the older figures at all. I just love that the newer ones are good upgrades. I even got the Siege version that has the pyramid fighter design. They're not perfect like the cartoon's old design but they looked more like Vipers from Battlestar galactica, so I nabbed a few. Got the trio. Didn't bother with the Target Redwing or the three pack with the yellow/blue/green guys. They were cheaper looking and lacked a lot of paint detail and love that Starscream, Thundercracker, and Skywarp have.

[@johnnela8898]

This Dude brings me so many memories from the 1980's

[@alphach1mp]

The one thing I was hoping for was that they make the air intakes transformable from bot to jetmode (see mp version). Everything else added was in terms of joint were to be expected.

[@NoahR_]

This mold makes me so glad that I don't have to pay ludicrous prices to get Siege Skywarp. I'm just gonna hold out for the two pack with Thundercracker.

[@sebastianmorales7346]

This comment didn't age well

[@masterfarr8265]

The Earthrise one is spot on to the g1 character Model

[@JohnFlowers-n3u]

Agree 💯%

[@benjaminwiseman6567]

Great Starscream impression!

[@joeford2127]

same guy designed both molds the size difference and the better head sculps earth rise so right on hope they make enough of thrust to go around for everyone nice vid

[@johnnela8898]

The Earthrise Starscream looks way better than the Little Dude!!!

[@jonahschmidtke7246]

9:07 oh yea that thing. How time flies

[@JLRules]

9:00 - This thing is going to be with us for a _long_ time.

[@scoobysnacks3740]

wow....I’ve had my starscream since 2006 and I’m just now finding that there’s landings that fold from the chest lol

[@jotimusprime3943]

Thank you for your videos. I went ahead and got this starscream. This is the first of the seekers to replace my classics seekers.

[@mockernick4745]

I feel like I'm the only one that is disappointed with the lack of double elbows, wrists(and waist swivel to a lesser degree). I hate to be a whiny fan, but the Siege Seeker had way better articulation but a lame alt. mode.

[@coffeetext]

The articulation is a definite downgrade from the Siege version, which is unfortunate. Seems to be the opposite to it, with a nice alt mode and a passable robot against a great robot and "okay" alt mode.

[@scottcontois3957]

Siege seeker...yeah. literally the entire alt form for a backpack. I'll stick to this one...

[@colt5189]

I just wish on both of these figures that they added an extra hinge on the nosecone so it would lay down on his back instead of stick more like out the back of his head.

[@TFfangeek]

Excellent comparison review Jcc2224!!!!!!!!!!! :D Earthrise Starscream has become my favorite Starscream figure. :D I really enjoy your starscream voice. :D Keep on being amazing, Double Thumbs Up. ;D

[@jordanharrington1890]

I don't love the waist area and the excessive molded detail but yeah........pretty nice

[@leolied6766]

I'm totally gonna get the Earthrise scream if I have a chance. But it seems that Grapple is becoming a Shelf warmer at my local target.

[@johnnela8898]

Earthrise seekers are the Best looking so Cartoon accurate!!!!

[@mangamegs]

I always found them to be too short even in 2006. Rts jazz towers over the clasics seekers and towers isn't me being dramatic ......kinda

[@johnnela8898]

Nice seekers Father and Son🤣😂😂

[@SilverScarletSpider]

I’m so pissed off now. I want to buy a brand new earth rise starscream at 20$ MSRP in stores. 2 fkn years too late

[@Jcc2224]

Get the Studio Series Leader Class! You get the throne and coronation gear! Sure it's more expensive, but you get what you pay for! The Earthrise was 30 MSRP originally unfortunately however.

[@napalmdex440]

FYI you prob know this by now but the knees are coming apart like that cuz you havent tabbed the peg on the back side of the knee into the leg as well as the front into the panel

[@RobinSwede]

I'm kind of offended that this hasn't been repainted more.

[@bcabrera971]

Honestly I love the Earthrise Starscream

[@johnnela8898]

The Legendary Transformers is the best 👌thing Hasbro ever made!!!!

[@DarthDeuces]

Torn on whether I want to pick up the earthrise or not. I have MP-11, and I have the Siege figure that I really like.

[@teodordimankov8034]

I cant wait for studio series old vs nee

[@ryancoughlan7205]

Does anyone know how to get the skywarp/thundercracker pack in europe. I really want them and I had to miss out on the last skywarp for this reason too

[@Jcc2224]

How was the Rainmaker set released in Europe? If at all? Since the TC/SW set is Target in the US like the Rainmakers, it'll probably be the same way.

[@ryancoughlan7205]

@@Jcc2224 i think the rainmakers were released in the remainning uk toys r us stores ( where i dont live) but no where else.

[@det.bullock4461]

Apparently there is a placeholder listing on amazon.de that should be the dual pack.

[@allendeglow9714]

Dont forget Skywarp and Thundercracker are in a two pack

[@Jcc2224]

I actually filmed this video before that 2 pack was even revealed. That's why I just mention "yelling head variant" and not that it's Skywarp's head.

[@echoproductions111]

So I am getting the blue arc trooper phase 1 and phase 2 boy plus silver clone trooper

[@JoseMartinez-df2db]

Do a video comparing these with the original toy.

[@Jcc2224]

I don't have a G1 Starscream... but I do have a G1 (reissue) thundercracker. When the Earthrise TC comes out I'll likely do that!

[@JoseMartinez-df2db]

Jcc2224 😃🙌🏽💜👍🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@spacewarsfight281]

Starscream bring your kid to work day Starscream and his son starwhisper Dont talk to me or my sparkling again I dont have to pay child support if i kidnap the child Okay im done

[@fenicewing3860]

I am honestly going to keep with the generations version as I like the plain look that it has compared to earthrise

[@InglesSpanishConversation]

...I get your logic, and I got the earthrise and felt the same. But now I realize that the earthrise jet mode is really blocky (fat: a lot of kibble, but bot made is great) so I got Masterpiece starscream (my favorite is MP-11), which looks much better in jet mode, and technically he a more realistic scale with all of the recent figures' alt modes ( siege, earthrise prime, kingdom, legacy ). No, he's not show accurate scale in bot mode, but as a jet, compared to earth rise prime/bluestreak's alt modes: it works great. That's the scale we see in the bumblebee movie, him going up against blitzwing. Plus Mp-11's aesthetic works with these figures, I believe that earthrise starscream is generally based off MP-11 (the head sculpt is practically identical...I I don't like the newer MP starscream...it looks like they replicated the, show accurate: animators lazy drawing of his fat, oversized head, when they were probably in a rush, when the original concept, I believe is like the animated movie/mp11/earthrise). Edit: I just saw the end of your video, and iconiclly the mp-11 and universe versions have the same wing transformation (having to flex and push them into place)...and that is concerning to me too: about the MP!

[@blud890]

Great video

[@goldbuggaming5513]

Do a old vs new cliff jumper or Optimus prime or wheel jack pls

[@Jcc2224]

I don't have the old Cliffjumper, haven't gotten Optimus yet, and no plans to get Wheeljack. Sorry!

[@goldbuggaming5513]

@@Jcc2224 ok :(

[@darthwaveproductions2255]

@@Jcc2224 are you gonna get the new hoist cause it's really good if yes can you do a old vs new on the hoist

[@prestynsanders1594]

Dang I honestly can’t tell which is better

[@cone6156]

The earthrise is better. More articulation,better engineering, no oversized null rays, in scale and bigger than autobot cars.

[@franciscoendi9150]

Love the new videos

[@seniorcorporalchase9098]

I want a sound wave G1 toy

[@TheVileOne]

Earth rise one looks good

[@FreddyFazboy399]

Covid 19 and we made it out in the end so we’re good

[@izzik2781]

Siege Seeker mould is so much better than the earth rise mould.

[@therailfanman2078]

What about core class starscream? Do you have him? If so, do you like him or hate him?

[@Jcc2224]

I like him!

[@therailfanman2078]

@@Jcc2224 ayeeeeee!

[@ultralaggerREV1]

I would rather buy the classics 2.0 seekers because they used to be CHEAPER but now these new seekers are overpriced + extremely rare to find

[@spectaclesvsautobots5116]

👍

[@spaceraptor1852]

Nice

[@AllCheatRiders]

2:31 american dad did it better with there damn you Hasbro

[@commanderthornn7154]

Hi j4 what’s up

[@trproduction4189]

Earth rise

[@Ironhide45]

For me, the old one is better.