I think disc priest is gonna be the easiest class because nobody is going to invite you to high keys. Real easy to heal with if you can't get in a group.
@LBNinja72 ай бұрын
Big facts, honestly the only criteria that matters lol!
@anacarvalho90472 ай бұрын
As a main disc with a resto druid alt, I was crying from the start
@LBNinja72 ай бұрын
Wear it as a badge of honor!
@jamisims2988Ай бұрын
As a disc only healer I feel this
@HappySquid892 ай бұрын
The thumbnail is hilarious
@LBNinja72 ай бұрын
Haha I appreciate it! This comment makes me putting that image of me on the internet worth it!
@Persuasion94Ай бұрын
Great video, as a player that plays every healing spec, I agree with this line up completely.👍
@romanroro8662 ай бұрын
Like Content but Time stamps would be nice 💋
@LBNinja72 ай бұрын
Just added! Sorry about that!
@deltawolf2 ай бұрын
Top tier CC just for this
@LBNinja72 ай бұрын
@@deltawolf haha I appreciate it!
@synchrogods2 ай бұрын
Tbh, i´m lowkey pissed evrytime Holy gets called easy. Try higher keys, when things actually hurt and realise Holy has zero AoE toolkit and the whack a mole triage healing is in full effect. Example: Dawn of the infinite, Dragon trash after Tyr. DP, Guardian one, Serenity another, PW: Life another. First AoE survived. Then you have 2 more coming.... You gotta decide and call personals in a split second. Where other healers just push an AoE heal button. Know what is especially fun then? When you gotta move all the time on bosses - your Holywords deplete fast on damageevents and then you gotta cast Flashheals / Heals, which you can´t do when you have to move.
@Streetfreak362 ай бұрын
word! got hyrja S1 flashbacks as a Holy priest... pure fun...
@Michael-bu7ni2 ай бұрын
Agree the sweat and hair loss in anything higher than a 20 outweighs the ease of holy real quick in pugs
@simcosports25842 ай бұрын
It’s the easiest to pick up, and understand, I definitely don’t think it’s the easiest to play, but higher keys, everything gets tougher for everyone. This is more for lower keys, weekly keys, pugs.
@dominikschneeweihs95382 ай бұрын
The Tier List is for War Within, not actual content.
@LBNinja72 ай бұрын
Oh for sure it lacks tools that other healers have, but if people are looking for an easy healer to play, they aren't thinking about pushing high keys! It just has the least buttons to learn (which is making the same point as you, it lacks tools, we on the same side lol) and cycles between the least buttons of any healer.
@George_K.2 ай бұрын
Great video, it definitely gave me that much needed nudge in order to finish leveling my sham and pala alts that I've had buried for a few years.
@rockuroxАй бұрын
Love the videos and channel but I couldn't disagree with a tier list more in my life
@LBNinja7Ай бұрын
Haha fair enough! I'm pretty interested to hear how you would order things! That's why I love these videos because everyone has their own way of viewing it and it just shows how flexible the healer role is!
@rockuroxАй бұрын
Almost the opposite other than Shaman. I base a lot of it on keybinds too. Holy priest has soooooooooo many buttons. Even if you spec for the least amount. Disc and Resto druid have been the easiest for me and my friends. Though I still main Mistweaver Can't wait for for your video on the 11.0.5 patch notes for Mistweaver!
@CeilingPanda2 ай бұрын
The thumbnail is freaking golden!
@LBNinja72 ай бұрын
I'm glad you like it lol!
@James-kv3ll2 ай бұрын
At this point in my life, easy is good. They keep making the Dungeons more mechanically complex. It’s just not fun when I have to worry about complexity in the Dungeons and complexity with my character. Pick one, not both. It’s just not fun to have to LOCK IN constantly when someone else’s mistake can ruin your entire run regardless of what you do.
@Ragazar2 ай бұрын
The tier is called "Like taking kid from a candy" 😂😂😂😂
@LBNinja72 ай бұрын
Haha it's a reference to something! I LOVE a game called smite, and one of my favorite players is English second. When he won a game once, he smack talked to the other time and said "it's like taking a kid from a candy." One of the greatest quotes in gaming lol
@dalastbmillsАй бұрын
Anyone who disagrees with "healer is the hardest role" has never tried to heal. I was a main tank in a competitive mythic raiding guild from '16 - '19, often times finding myself as the #1 (B)DK on US-Dalaran (not known for raiding tbh) and got bored of tanking so now I'm a holy priest main. Healing is way more fun and interactive than tanking. I want another healer alt but I can't make up my mind, probably gonna go with Hpala. edit: Why is this hpriest not running Circle of Healing? For 5m with the extra target (5 instead of 4) you can heal the entire party every ~10s for a decent amount. I like to go Circle > Sanctify > prayer of healing for big party damage. CoH and Sanc will heal most of the party's damage, prayer of healing with the Mirror Image will get everyone to 100%. Such a satisfying playstyle IMO
@bestusernamesrslyАй бұрын
I don't plan on playing a healer, but I watched this video because of the thumbnail
@nlmodАй бұрын
For Holy Priest I wish the Surge of Light talent worked with both Flash Heal and Prayer of Healing. I'd make Prayer of Healing viable again for Dungeon runs, and just in general feel better when you have to continuously dodge everything that's thrown at you. Also currently Holy Priest has the same weakness as Preservation Evoker when it comes to AoE healing, but worse... With Pres you can at least position yourself better to heal groups with your cone, with Holy Priest you have your one-off small area heal(Holy Word: Sanctify) that no ranged dps ever gets in range of. I wish they would've adjusted this when they did the class reworks in the beta, but Priest barely had any changes at all. And I personally would much rather play with both Prayer of Healing and Circle of Healing than Holy Word: Sanctify, but because of the talent tree you're forced to take HW: Sanctify before you can take either of the other 2, resulting in extremely limited build diversity.
@restindeath175529 күн бұрын
Should make an overall video for PVP and PVE. Some healers are more difficult in other areas such as PVP because they require more buttons for functions and rotations.
@luckynumb3r1952 ай бұрын
Mighty algorithm, LB hasn't reached 100k subs yet, your holy work must continue !
@LBNinja72 ай бұрын
Almighty algorithm, ill settle for 10k but 100k would be lit too.
@luckynumb3r1952 ай бұрын
@@LBNinja7 Don't be too humble, the almighty algorithm loves greedy MFs the most :D
@mikepaulin9109Ай бұрын
I have no problem healing with disc priest, it just feels natural to me, but I guess thats why it works for me.
@Soluxya2 ай бұрын
I still think Preservation is the most difficult, it's hard to wrap your mind around Echo and Stasis along with the reduced range. Disc is hard, but I'm pretty sure it could be fixed with tuning.
@LBNinja72 ай бұрын
Yeah that is a very good point, strong Disc is easy Disc. But I do think a brand new player can stumble on passable healing as evoker whereas they'd be a little lost on Disc
@Zeph914Ай бұрын
For me pres is the easiest. You just memorize some of the combo rotations and where to best use them at and spend all your essence on beam to get mana back. Easily put out a none stop aoe healing profile while doing extra damage and never going out of mana.
@codycurtin22952 ай бұрын
Disc is even worse off than just being harder to play, the numbers are absolutely abysmal. When we had the 4 set that gave instant Radiance it was so smooth and much easier for people to pick up (still proactive but one less element of telepathic gameplay)
@Testoodope2 ай бұрын
My EZ Healer tierlist: s - Rsham, Hpriest a - MW b - Hpal c - Rdruid, Pres d - Disc
@raechu_012102 ай бұрын
Mistweaver in the same tier as rdruid and below hpal feels like a joke. Hpal you need to use the right tool for the job but mistweaver you can literally get portals with just maintaining renewing mists, doing your melee rotation, vivify, and Sheilun's. Hpriest also is secretly less easy than you'd think for one reason. They're incredibly fragile. If you make a mistake and get hit, you're just fucking dead. They're probably the most fragile spec in the game I think? And if you want an easy healer, I think you also want to not get murdered for any mistake you make.
@LBNinja72 ай бұрын
Youre definitely right, priests are made if paper. I really did consider mistweaver for top 3, but it does have a lot more intricacies than hpal. Also heals buttons are all easy just like sheiluns, but new players do struggle a bit to understand chiji to it's full potential. You could just as easily swap monk and hpal and I think the list would be just as valid tho!
@Durrtyboy2 ай бұрын
i tried out restro and holy priest i feel shammy is just too good it has everything you need also i felt one priest if things really hit the fan i couldn't keep up and shammy just has so many ways to add healing
@leondavies97352 ай бұрын
I find holy priest easy in low keys but I feel it’s way harder than resto druid in high keys. You end up trying to flash heal through massive aoe damage as you run out of holy words easy.
@kayladecant73322 ай бұрын
Super reasonable take - but if high keys are on the table for you, then a video about healer difficulty is *probably* outside of scope for you.
@vanguelisk2 ай бұрын
that is why you play disc at high key lvls
@lilpuddin15602 ай бұрын
good video, subbed!!
@rylok2 ай бұрын
This affirms my choice of Paladin and Shaman as my mains next expac. Thank you ! :D Also, I may try Holy if it's truiy that easy....
@dr.zoidberg86662 ай бұрын
As a long time healer I've long found Holy priest to feel clunky. People call it easy because it's quite reactive & has lots of different heals, but imho the gameplay never feels smooth. I actually think Disc is easier in the current game but I wouldn't pick it right now due to performance issues. Resto shammy is definitely where it's at for beginners, but I'd also say fistweaver is a sneaky contender. It'll never top lists like this because it's an unconventional healer, but the rotation feels really good & imo is easy to learn.
@Testoodope2 ай бұрын
Hpal is not super ez, I think it's mid tier difficulty with a high skill cap
@lordalpacas64642 ай бұрын
Clicked for the thumbnail
@LBNinja72 ай бұрын
@@lordalpacas6464 stayed for the party
@moldgrim12 ай бұрын
Epic thumbnail 😂
@LBNinja72 ай бұрын
Haha I appreciate that!!
@Victoria-pt5jyАй бұрын
”like taking kid from a candy” 😭
@ConeyIslandKing2 ай бұрын
before watching this - Prevoker is the hardest
@LBNinja72 ай бұрын
You could 100% make an argument and I'd 100% agree. Pres is like sneaky hard, but I think having a bunch of 15-30 sec cds to cycle makes it a little more new player friendly
@DidzBananaStand2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@LBNinja72 ай бұрын
Of course, and thank you so much!!
@cel-q2vАй бұрын
my issue with these lists is the "proactive is harder than reactive" mindset when ALL healers should be some level of proactive to be used to their full potential, all healers should know fights and when damage is coming in. for example ive seen quite a few people say rsham is easier than druid and surface level sure, totemic isnt really just reactionary though, cbt is also not a reactionary spell, you cant spam chain heals etc. always found druid easier. feel like rsham is just being ranked as easiest because of healing throughput rn opposed to playstyle idk
@AestheticAbeАй бұрын
How are you seeing nameplates in dungeons? I thought blizzard disabled addon friendly nameplates?
@Tony_IndianaАй бұрын
I never really played MW. Just did an M5. I can say fairly confidently I had a 1-2 button rotation. I can honestly say I do not know how to play MW.
@zdendus12 ай бұрын
Can you make Healer trinket tier list. Or every healer best trinkets? Would be nice to see with dps trinkets nerfed for healers ans tanks.
@MrLolguy932 ай бұрын
Off topic, but which healing spec and Hero talent will be the easiest for thebmage Tower challenge when it returns? It's the only challenge left for me
@Poisonieer2 ай бұрын
Hot take, I do not understand holy priest, but I also very much am a disc enjoyer.
@BeaBearur2 ай бұрын
I have healed all healers, and holy still makes my head hurt. I always get overwhelmed with how many buttons there are.
@dr.zoidberg86662 ай бұрын
I agree. I think especially after the DF redesign Disc is a very simple healer (maybe even too simple tbh) while Holy still feels a little bloated to me.
@HermitOser2 ай бұрын
spam flash heal
@Testoodope2 ай бұрын
That's very hot, considering that Holy is the quintessential healer and is presumably very easy with a low skill ceiling. Meanwhile Disc is arguably the most difficult. You're a special case my dude
@dr.zoidberg86662 ай бұрын
@@Testoodope As a healer main for many many years now, I'd say Holy Priest is easy, but with a decently high skill ceiling to perform very well. Discipline USED to be the most difficult healing spec, but it was significantly simplified in DF. Now it has fewer buttons than any other healer & a pretty straightforward mechanic. In modern WoW Resto Druid is the most difficult healer & I don't think it's even particularly close.
@behorexАй бұрын
hello do you have link on your Weak Auras? Thank you
@Frosty616.2 ай бұрын
Man I love disc play style but holy shit I'm bad at it.
@LBNinja72 ай бұрын
Lol same. For me it's just too squishy, so I'm going to try the hero talent where I steal hp from my allies
@Frosty616.2 ай бұрын
@@LBNinja7 I always level a disc priest, ALWAYS .. just can't ever push content with it until everyone else is 30-40 ilvls higher than me lol
@lofi___21222 ай бұрын
nice video
@adarvold51572 ай бұрын
for some reason disc priest and MW just makes sense to me. i cant for the life of me figure out rsham or hpal
@LBNinja72 ай бұрын
Maybe in your past life you were a DPS god lol!
@adarvold51572 ай бұрын
@@LBNinja7 might be on to something
@AquaticBehr2 ай бұрын
another banger video, are you going back to Twitch soon? miss hanging out
@LBNinja72 ай бұрын
I plan on streaming right after i finish my last guide video to be posted soon ;)
@markusharth43932 ай бұрын
dude youre amazing, watched so many videos now. please tell me how to increase the size of the HOT icons on your group window. i just dont get it...
@LBNinja72 ай бұрын
Haha I really appreciate it! Shoot me a message on discord so I can send you a screenshot! Christo9760 is my name on there
@Sports55612 ай бұрын
I like enhance and resto shaman but I also like ret and holy pal.....what to do???!!!!
@refinery9co.1392 ай бұрын
I wanna love disc..I DO love disc but I am just so over atonement. Maybe I am just tired the micro-managing for the sake of it? I just wish they would completely rework it or bring it back to the mitigation/support spec it was.
@maxitgamesАй бұрын
or simply make atonement last longer, cuz boy do they run out fast.
@tr3lane2 ай бұрын
Thanks
@realicepick2852 ай бұрын
Are those your weak auras for the on screen abilities ui?
@LBNinja72 ай бұрын
Yes they are!
@realicepick2852 ай бұрын
@@LBNinja7 are they on wqgio? Care to share them, I'd love to take them for a spin 😂
@brandonvargas59252 ай бұрын
I’ve hit 3.2k-3.5k io on almost every healer but Rsham. I don’t know what it is about them that I find so dog shit. Maybe the mana issues? Drinking after every pull gets so annoying I can’t stand playing them for more than like a day.
@slugbones2 ай бұрын
This gonna sound silly but I'm trying retail after not playing since Wrath... How do the totems work? Can I put down healing rain and healing surge at the same time? The game does a pretty bad job of explaining that to people like me.
@Max-98712 ай бұрын
There are no elemental (fire,water,earth,wind) totems anymore since cata i believe cause most totems were just passive effects without cooldown and with cata blizzard massively cut down casted abilities that are basicly pointless cause they give a passive bonus (windfury totem for example got converted to a passive aura buff). You can easily spot that the totem mechanic got entirely switched by reading the tooltips. Wotlk and before totems mentioned what element they are and that you can only place one of that element in their tooltips so since that part is entirely missing now totems are just totems and you can have a unlimited amount at the same time
@scobeliaАй бұрын
i hope i won't have any healer in my party who tries to learn healing from this video
@MrkraZzzАй бұрын
Every healer suffers from an insane button bloat. They need to cut 5-10 buttons from each healer.
@xarbinchaoticneutral1785Ай бұрын
Hot take, but I prefer them to keep disc as the hardest spec (speaking as a ksh/gladiator disc main since mop). I only wish they didn't get rid of spirit shell and I hate that they turned schism into a scuffed mindblast. Disc should be a support class rather than healer with the focus being mitigation and damage prevention through absorbs. I really hate this doubling down on atonement shit. Also making mind games being pvp only is super scuffed. Probably the only good thing that came out of shadowlands. It had such a huge potential with skill ceiling (like during Nathria). When I tank and I see a high io disc priest, he gets an auto invite because I know that 'this guy f@cks'
@millenia111Ай бұрын
...Not all of the totems casts a chain heal....The only reliable one is healing stream
@NY-qb5bqАй бұрын
DO NOT CUT YOUR BEARD LOL!!
@LBNinja7Ай бұрын
YES SIR
@jb02222 ай бұрын
raid healer teir list please
@Velerios2 ай бұрын
Honestly: Holy Priest ist Easy to learn, Hard to master. Probably harder than many of the other easy classes. at the beginning: damage > heal. But then when you get better, pre-casting spells with breaking them if necessary, filling in damage without risking healing, heck even using Holy nova with 20 stacks makes sense now, so that you can't be at max range all the time, and not forgetting sometimes even filling it power word: shield (there are even talents for priest now). Priest is definitively the easy class to learn healing, but it actually has depth in it. I think that the skill ceiling is higher on Holy Priest than on any other class (not saying that it's harder than disc, just that the difference between beginner and master of the spec is bigger than on any other healing class)
@CGuneyOnolАй бұрын
hpal isnt easy like this. Its reactive maybe but not easy, you must be a positioning master for easy hpal game
@perkulant46292 ай бұрын
Lets go DIsc!
@xlightninghawk63602 ай бұрын
i dont get how ppl say resto druid is so hard. its one of the easiest healer in my opinion. ngl i find hpala harder or monk harder than druid
@brandonneifert31992 ай бұрын
Ppl who make these vids are just biased. Druid is easy to heal with. Ppl are just bad
@LBNinja72 ай бұрын
I've gained rdruid longer than I've gained mistweaver, so to us it might seem easy. But it has the most upkeep of any healer and always has to be prepping for damage to come, which is difficult in a new expansion with new damage patterns. No need to take it to heart. If anything, take it as a compliment that you find the healer easy that others find hard!
@LBNinja72 ай бұрын
Also worth mentioning, mistweavers and disc priest set up their ramps in about 10 globals, but resto druids have like a 20 global ramp if you thing about it lol
@DrLoaky2 ай бұрын
I think druid can't keep up with damage of you have not prepared for it. That makes it harder I think. So if you're running m+ with a pug group that makes a lot of mistakes a druid can't really deal with that imo.
@apsodyeu3694Ай бұрын
shut your brain off while you heal? what healer have you been playing?
@Dea7hWarran72 ай бұрын
10 minute gang!!
@Ermji2 ай бұрын
20 minute gang
@gibs97312 ай бұрын
@@Ermji 40mins yay too?
@JamesV12 ай бұрын
1 hour gang…
@LBNinja72 ай бұрын
Haha I try to make my videos different in length because different strokes for different folks!
@henrylawsky71722 ай бұрын
Like taking kid from a candy? 😂
@LBNinja72 ай бұрын
Haha it’s an old smite meme!
@topleveldnd2 ай бұрын
Disc priest high key pusher here, this spec is ez as fuck in M+ . It seems hard because it's undertuned, the game is absolutely unbalanced. if disc had the same healing numbers as Rdruid you'd see how ez it is. Disc is only hard in raid where nerdy sweatlords show off how good at math they are.
@Linknla2 ай бұрын
Nerdy Swearlords??? Omg 😂😂😂
@zakwilson32762 ай бұрын
I agree. Disc has such a great tool kit for m+ (minus the lack of interrupt or stop). We get so many AOE healing burst windows with all the CD reduction on smite now. Timing for damage in dungeons feels super forgiving. Sometimes I'm in Shadow covenant just to get more damage off because I know I'll have my pet back by the time I need him. DR is also super under rated in higher keys. The bigger those damage numbers get the more impactful DR is. My only complaints are the lack of an interrupt and that other healers can put out way more HPS outside of their cool downs where we are very dependent on ours to do literally any healing. But if they boosted off cool down output we would probably be a little over tuned.
@topleveldnd2 ай бұрын
@@zakwilson3276 disc has nothing to become overtuned, resto druid has been overtuned by +30% and it was fine for 2 seasons because it was actually all the other healers being undertuned by 30%. Resto druid did not enable ungodly big pull or anything. it just healed a lot more. making disc heal that much even without cooldowns will make nothing go wrong. it'll be just in line with Rdruid
@jbarlakАй бұрын
Too bad you don’t update. Old news
@kc-lz8gsАй бұрын
?? What is the point of this comment? Lol
@kc-lz8gsАй бұрын
Do you comment this on every video that is a few weeks old? insane
@jbarlakАй бұрын
@@kc-lz8gs well for some reason it was added to my suggestions. I watched then realized it was 3 weeks old at least other creators actually updated their videos. Thanks for your insight
@ondamixtape2 ай бұрын
Hpal is hard no ?
@davidstirk1642 ай бұрын
whos this budget madskillztv from temu
@LBNinja72 ай бұрын
Did typing this out make you feel better? Like honestly?
@outlaw40162 ай бұрын
@@LBNinja7 I make healing content on my personal channel, I just hide comments like this lol. They don't deserve the time of day. Thanks for the video brotha!