Easter is Not Pagan

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Every year around Easter we start hearing about Ishtar and how Easter is pagan. Well, this video refutes this nonsense.
Sources:
Frank Stenton - Anglo-Saxon England
Carole Cusack - The Goddess Eostre: Bede’s Text and Contemporary Pagan Tradition
Jacqueline Simpson and Stephen Roud - A Dictionary of English Folklore, Section: Easter Eggs
Tanya Gulevich - archive.org/de...
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@Nasraniksatria
@Nasraniksatria Жыл бұрын
As an ex pagan, I know that Ishtar was associated with Lions, never heard of her being associated with Rabbits.
@sunnyjohnson992
@sunnyjohnson992 Жыл бұрын
The fertility goddess Astarte (Ishtar)had as her symbols an egg and a hare. Her statues depicted her with rudely exaggerated sex organs or with an egg in her hand and a rabbit at her side. Sacred prostitution was part of her cult!
@deutschermichel5807
@deutschermichel5807 7 ай бұрын
​@Mandatory-Idiocracy eggs are forbidden to eat in lent. After lent, there comes Easter.
@deutschermichel5807
@deutschermichel5807 7 ай бұрын
@Mandatory-Idiocracy pagan? Are you crazy? Do you think lustful pagans would refrain from eating stuff for no reason? This was instituted by the Church in the Middle Ages. If youʼve read the Bible, you will know the story when Jesus our Lord fasted for 40 days in the desert, while the devil tried to tempt him into sin. christians are called to imitate Christ, our saviour and best human ever. When Jesus held absolute lent for 40 days, why wont you put aside your eggs for a few days and stack them up until Easter?
@CthulhuCoffee
@CthulhuCoffee 7 ай бұрын
It's actually based off of Eostre. Christians didn't even change the name of the holiday.
@deutschermichel5807
@deutschermichel5807 7 ай бұрын
@@CthulhuCoffee you are wrong. Christians introduced everything about Easter EXCEPT the name
@iainanderson6775
@iainanderson6775 4 жыл бұрын
Growing up in Scotland, we would paint our eggs then go outside and roll them down a slope to crack the shell, symbolising the stone being rolled away from the tomb of Jesus.
@reflectionsinthebible3579
@reflectionsinthebible3579 3 жыл бұрын
That’s man made tradition. The goddess Oestre turned a bird into a rabbit and it still laid eggs. Your taking a cover off of a book and outing your own into it. Time for everyone to wake up to where traditions originated and how far back the Bible goes. These traditions are not about Jesus.
@iainanderson6775
@iainanderson6775 3 жыл бұрын
@@reflectionsinthebible3579 you don't say. I never would have guessed that on my own... Thank you for the rabid dogmatism. I feel so much more enriched for the experience.
@tomithy_lo
@tomithy_lo 2 жыл бұрын
@@reflectionsinthebible3579I have heard this said a bunch, but I have never seen a credible source say anything other than we only have a single old world writing of such a goddess was from the 8th century and all it mentions is that they would feast in her honor in what we currently call April. I've read that portion of the book translated to English myself and there is no mention of birds or hares at all. If you have a credible source to say otherwise I would love to see it though.
@Cobruh_Commander
@Cobruh_Commander 2 жыл бұрын
@@reflectionsinthebible3579 Oh yeah? How far back does the Bible go? Enlighten me.
@somebodysomewhere5571
@somebodysomewhere5571 2 жыл бұрын
They were changed. Traditions can be changed moron.
@kimemia_maina
@kimemia_maina Жыл бұрын
Give it time and someone will start claiming that 4th of July is secretly a pagan holiday to honor Julius Ceaser
@JACOBITE-1745
@JACOBITE-1745 9 ай бұрын
@Mandatory-Idiocracy I think it just might be from the general association of rabbits with spring renewal, like snowmen are just a fun winter association and have no real meaning. Simply fun things during the festive seasons for children.
@JACOBITE-1745
@JACOBITE-1745 9 ай бұрын
@Mandatory-Idiocracy Was there nothing in the video that disproved pagan origins? The bunny and egg stuff is just celebratory customs that are entirely optional. I see nothing pagan in Easter.
@JACOBITE-1745
@JACOBITE-1745 9 ай бұрын
@Mandatory-Idiocracy There are reasons for any possible changes in dates of celebration, things like updating calendars or to better fit with symbolism, or harmless customs for kids thst they grow out of with time but it's nice having a civil conversation with someone even when we disagree. In any case, I wish you a very merry Christmas and a happy New Year.
@igorlopes7589
@igorlopes7589 6 ай бұрын
​@Mandatory-Idiocracy You know that the secular traditions of Easter are absolutely secondary, right? The whole focus of Easter until the secularization of the West was the Ressurection of Jesus. And that at the second century the date of Easter was kind of already the same that it is today
@igorlopes7589
@igorlopes7589 6 ай бұрын
@Mandatory-Idiocracy Easter is just the english word for what all other christian peoples called Pascha.
@JJFrostMusic
@JJFrostMusic 7 жыл бұрын
let's just ditch the rabbit and eggs tho. and focus more on Christ.
@colinp2238
@colinp2238 7 жыл бұрын
We know 100% that rabbits and eggs exist but as to your fairy tale king we only have the words in a dodgy book.
@ForOdinAndAsgard
@ForOdinAndAsgard 7 жыл бұрын
Let's just ditch Jeebus.
@mrlahey2530
@mrlahey2530 6 жыл бұрын
rabbits and eggs symbolize rebirth (pagan).
@brainmog825
@brainmog825 5 жыл бұрын
Just celebrate Passover and Not Ishtar
@joshperry3494
@joshperry3494 5 жыл бұрын
Yes You focus on Christ by worshiping God as He worshipped and taught His Father Gods Law and prophets Christ kept passover and when Christ was gone Paul said to keep passover 1 Cor 5
@cynthiabauer5281
@cynthiabauer5281 5 жыл бұрын
The problem is that the Easter bunny and other stuff often overshadows the resurrection of Jesus. The most important why we celebrate Easter.
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 5 жыл бұрын
I don't deny that.
@hesedagape6122
@hesedagape6122 5 жыл бұрын
That is an issue where you are. It is not a global Christian issue. So why project something that only happens where u are over all of us. Never heard of the Easter bunny here
@cynthiabauer5281
@cynthiabauer5281 5 жыл бұрын
Nii Ayi Croffie that is wonderful news. Here in the USA the Easter bunny does overshadows Jesus.
@hesedagape6122
@hesedagape6122 5 жыл бұрын
@@cynthiabauer5281 I think it's just a question of marketing. If a country which has majority of its population claiming to be Christian but a bunny can replace Christ on the most important holiday of the Church Calender all I can say is there is a big problem
@hesedagape6122
@hesedagape6122 5 жыл бұрын
@@cynthiabauer5281 anyways we have our own problem where Easter is being marketed as a Carnival in one part of our country. It is still a Church time though. The Triduum features prominently in our lives because Churches are not anti-secular. It gives us space to invade their world too.
@chellepatino1675
@chellepatino1675 7 жыл бұрын
I'm christian but the more I learn about the amazing connections to the Hebrew calendar, the more I see And learn the fulfillment of God's law. I think messianic jews have it closest. that being said, I'm not going to deny some celebration at easter but let's be clear. many of these traditions have nothing to do with jesus.
@spd109
@spd109 2 жыл бұрын
@@crazyalarmstudios2012 unfortunately, a lot of christians (as proven by the other comments) refuse to see that. Just because christians use a pagan symbol does not mean the chrisitians have to bash pagans for showing the origin. By the same token, pagans should not bash christians for their beliefs. This back and forth has caused more people to stray from their path without realizing it. We should all be able to get together and have discussions without the hateful statements that are seen even on this thread. Thank you for being open and showing that the traditions can be shared without harm to anyone.
@spd109
@spd109 2 жыл бұрын
That.... we can totally agree on. No religion should be commercialized to the point Christianity has.
@TheMightyDR84
@TheMightyDR84 2 жыл бұрын
@@spd109 can you explain the meaning commercialized? Im in complete agreement with you. Im looking to articulate a little better
@spd109
@spd109 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMightyDR84 walk someone through a mall or a Hellmart this time of year. The kids books, candy, cards... it goes on and on. None of it has to do with any faith. It's about money and greed. I don't have issues with being able to buy party favors but it's way out of hand. Regardless of someone's religion, let's get the kids and make the symbols or treats you want to use in your ceremonies or parties. That opens a teaching moment. That teaching moment allows us to show all sides of the season and to actually interact with each other. The commercialization of the religious holidays has made it to easy to buy some candy, a card and just hand it over. How many Easter parties will be had this weekend? How many of those will actually contain open debate and conversation about the holiday or time of year? How many will openly discuss the history? Sorry, I'm on a rant. Lol. Allowing companies to fully commercialize a religious event will always lead to diminishing the true reason for the holiday.
@sergioluevano9229
@sergioluevano9229 2 жыл бұрын
Bad video.
@hotwax9376
@hotwax9376 4 жыл бұрын
Another theory for the origin of the name "Easter" is that it comes from an old Germanic word, "eostarum", which means dawn or morning. And the reference to cooking the bunny's nest of eggs is highly fantastic given that rabbits are placental mammals and thus don't lay eggs. Anyway, pretty much all these accusations of Christians "borrowing" from paganism are based on the idea that because some practices are common to both Christians and pagans, this must prove that Christians took their customs from pagans. But just because two things are similar doesn't mean they are the same or that one is derived from the other. And even a connection between Christian and pagan customs could be proven, it doesn't necessarily mean that the Christians borrowed from the pagans; it could just as easily be the pagans who tried to replicate an earlier Christian practice. (This is especially possible in the period before the Christianization of the Roman Empire, when the Christian faith was illegal and numerous pagan emperors were trying to halt its rise.) Moreover, just because pagans do something does not necessarily make that practice inherently pagan. Pagans pray to their gods; Christians pray to their God. Pagans tell stories about their gods; Christians tell stories from the Bible about their God. Pagans developed the Greek and Latin alphabets, not to mention bathing, indoor plumbing, and a host of other things. Pagans eat food, drink water, and do many other things that pretty much everyone. If the fact that pagans do these things automatically makes them pagan, then literally everyone, Christian and non-Christian alike, is a pagan.
@Stopthegreed
@Stopthegreed 2 жыл бұрын
That is such a weak argument. Christmas and easter are both pagan celebrations. And both were celebrated well before the "story" of Jesus came about. What you are trying to say is both those celebrations are just a coincidence that jesus was born on the shortest day which was celebrated as the winter solstice and then died on the spring equinox which date actually changes each year (that should give it away by itself). So what date did jesus die? Because you're saying his date of death also changes every year like the pagan celebrations around easter and the spring equinox. . Its embarrassing and thats why people try and justify the jesus nonsense.
@hotwax9376
@hotwax9376 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stopthegreed Your argument is the one that is weak. Similarities to paganism don't prove that something comes from paganism. There's no credible evidence that Christmas and Easter even come from paganism at all. It's based pseudohistory promoted by atheists to discredit the Christian faith, though some anti-Catholic polemicists have latched onto those claims as well.
@spd109
@spd109 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stopthegreed That's part of the problem. They can't explain how the "Christian" holidays have been around for thousands of years prior. Or the fact that some didn't exist prior to the council of Nicaea in 325. But hey, they also don't like the idea that christianity spread rapidly because when the christians told you to convert, you either did or you were killed. How many religions were not only wiped out by the christians, but christian churches were built on top of the ruins of the religious buildings they destroyed. So much for a god of peace and love. Oh well, as long as you give money on Sunday, you're forgiven.
@davidalmaraz396
@davidalmaraz396 2 жыл бұрын
pagans didn't invent bathing😂... the white man was in a cave eating raw meat before the melanated man taught him civilization... how to use language...to be clean.. the Greeks are yalls old people... or the vikings...the ancient kelts, druids, and they were all established by melanted beings... Look at the old crests and states in europe... they give homage to dark men who raised them up ..it's clearly seen in the statues and crests.... mankind isn't all the same... why do you think they called it the dark ages... and just a fun fact.. rabbit is a mammal, it doesn't lay eggs... you been deceived by the serpent... research tammuz
@spd109
@spd109 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidalmaraz396 nice fantasy story. You celebrating 4 20 early or just trolling? Let me answer for you.... typical trolling. Now, I've given you the amount of attention you deserve. You'll get no more. Go back to your sandbox and let us know when you wake up in reality.
@chrishunt4211
@chrishunt4211 3 жыл бұрын
"Just because the pagans used eggs to symbalize fertility doesn't mean it's a pagan origin." Fair enough, where in the Bible does it talk about egg painting around Passover?
@spiritsama51
@spiritsama51 3 жыл бұрын
You do know there are things the hebrews did that were not listed in the bible, but are also not pagan right?
@saintgraham
@saintgraham 3 жыл бұрын
Where in the bible does it say that you can't paint an egg around passover?
@chrishunt4211
@chrishunt4211 3 жыл бұрын
@@saintgraham So when I point out that pagan beliefs actually involved eggs around April and the Bible does not, you rebutt with that?!
@chrishunt4211
@chrishunt4211 3 жыл бұрын
@@spiritsama51 Sure, but how do you land with the belief of something when the documentation supports the opposite?
@chrishunt4211
@chrishunt4211 3 жыл бұрын
@@spiritsama51 Sure, but how do you land with the belief of something when the documentation supports the opposite?
@byron3176
@byron3176 5 жыл бұрын
One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. - Romans 14:5 Also: Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. - 2 Timothy 2:23
@brettpruefer7541
@brettpruefer7541 5 жыл бұрын
Great point , God bless
@martinscott7006
@martinscott7006 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you SO much for this video! I am getting really sick of all the buzzkill Christians out there making every holiday "pagan"! And could you do a video on Thanksgiving? Because people have moved onto that holiday as well, saying it is "pagan" because Thanksgiving decorations feature "cornucopias", which is another "pagan" symbol! So please do a video debunking that stupid association.
@annieboookhall
@annieboookhall Жыл бұрын
Now that's a new one! Do people just not like joy??
@jeffduncan9140
@jeffduncan9140 5 ай бұрын
@@annieboookhall that is a new one to me, too. With the pilgrims being as religious as they're purported to have been, Thanksgiving seems like straight up giving thanks to God.
@460823357
@460823357 7 жыл бұрын
So what is your Biblical reference to support Easter or Christmas? And what about God's appointed times?
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 7 жыл бұрын
Colossians 2:16
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 7 жыл бұрын
-17
@AveChristusRex
@AveChristusRex 7 жыл бұрын
+Roger Rousseau Where is your Biblical reference for a) sola scriptura or b) all feasts or celebrations in celebration of anything must be in Scripture (e.g. Hannukkah, which Jesus celebrated, which isn't in your Luther-Bible, but is in the Catholic, i.e. real Bible).
@460823357
@460823357 7 жыл бұрын
It's in the Gospels as well. John 10:22. Most others are found in Leviticus 23.
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 7 жыл бұрын
You are confusing descriptive and prescriptive passages. Of course Jesus kept all the feasts. He had to be perfect within the laws of the Mosaic covenant to fulfill it so it could pass away (John 19:28-30; Hebrews 8).
@genrlchaos
@genrlchaos 2 жыл бұрын
The time of year these celebrations take place is what’s most important I think. The Sun is reborn or resurrected during this time of year. This substitution made it easier for pagans to transition into Christianity. I find it kind of ironic that a channel about the Bible is asking for evidence. Paganism is also a faith.
@Survivethejive
@Survivethejive 7 жыл бұрын
True about Ishtar having nothing to do with it, but we know Eastre must be an Anglo-Saxon goddess as mentioned by Bede, because the name is cognate with German Ostara. Probably a goddess of dawn rather than of Spring, but in any case, why name the Christian festival after a heathen goddess? Clearly the date already had significance among the pagan English
@Survivethejive
@Survivethejive 7 жыл бұрын
it is incorrect to say there is no other evidence. Linguists have confirmed cognates in place names etc
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 7 жыл бұрын
Can you show any archeological or manuscript evidence of Ostara outside of Bede?
@Survivethejive
@Survivethejive 7 жыл бұрын
I am an Anglo Saxon historian. None of the Anglo Saxon gods can be supported by any archaeology because we only project identities on to figures that may be depictions of deities. The primary way we understand the Anglo Saxon pagan religion is through linguistics, etymological study of place names and and days of week matching with the historical sources which tell us of those deities. I have never heard of a single historian or linguist who denies that Eastre is a deity and the idea that Bede made it up is apparently only circulated online. If he made it up, why would it happen to be cognate with German "Ostara" and also the root of English place names? Why would a catholic monk falsely ascribe a pagan origin to the name of a Christian celebration?
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 7 жыл бұрын
Then perhaps you should read: Frank Stenton, Anglo-Saxon England, Page 98 Carole Cusack, The Goddess Eostre: Bede’s Text and Contemporary Pagan Tradition Another, Dr. Elizabeth Freeman believes he definitely made up the goddess. She goes on to say Bede and other contemporaries often would look for moral meaning for words and at times they made up definitions to fit their moral outlook.The fact is we have no inscriptions to her, no mention and Bede even admits to his speculation. Again, Bede is the only one to mention Ostara/Eastre. I can find no other sources.
@Survivethejive
@Survivethejive 7 жыл бұрын
InspiringPhilosophy thanks for those. Stenton is highly esteemed but rather old, freeman is not at all reputable. Truly the historicity of Bede's claim is a matter of arbitrary speculation unless it is a matter of linguistics, and as i said all linguistic academic consensus supports the authenticity. Bede makes no mention of ostara, that cognate was discovered by grimm in 19th century and the roots of both to a PIE source are confirmed by modern linguists. If we disregard linguistics and look at bede then we must identity a reasonable explanation for why, in the 8th century when there were still a few anglo saxon pagans, anyone would accept bede's claims of a made up deity. Frankly i find the claim somewhat absurd and there is still the matter of his motivation
@scholtzspider
@scholtzspider 7 жыл бұрын
Have a blessed Pascha.
@jasonbourne5142
@jasonbourne5142 3 жыл бұрын
It's about Jesus, stop saying pashca
@mailmikenu
@mailmikenu 3 жыл бұрын
Late to the party but yes happy pascha/eostre
@hejallihopa4304
@hejallihopa4304 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonbourne5142 it's really not about Jesus.
@albertohernandez8721
@albertohernandez8721 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it is about Jesus
@hejallihopa4304
@hejallihopa4304 3 жыл бұрын
@@albertohernandez8721 no it's not look it up. You replaced a pagan holiday with yours and put a bunch of false info in it.
@thecapone45
@thecapone45 7 жыл бұрын
So, in summary. Everything related to easter that we celebrate "is not certain". We celebrate a holiday and don't know why.
@minkymandy6065
@minkymandy6065 Жыл бұрын
I noticed that too. So why not just call it what the Bible calls it, namely, Passover, Unleavened Bread (passion week) and Firstfruits (from the dead, ie, 1Cor15:20). Or just Passover and Resurrection Day?
@Testimony_Of_JTF
@Testimony_Of_JTF Жыл бұрын
There are numerous possibilities because this is middle ages stuff from regions where barely anyone could read or write. By your own standarts Christ was not real.
@HeLovesMoi
@HeLovesMoi 5 жыл бұрын
I watched your video with an open mind (as I do with all your videos I’ve watched). However, you lost me when you stated your second point (around 7:45) that the “Anti-Holiday” crowd can not prove logically that the secular celebrations of Easter is sin. It is not their burden to PROVE it is sinful if they feel it is sinful. The book of James and the book of Romans tell us that though something may not be sinful for you, does not mean that it isn’t sin to your brother or sister. I am not referring to clearly outlined sins here - there are plenty in the Bible. I am referring to the more vague cases. So no, the celebration of the Easter holiday may not be sin to YOU. And that is fine! The Lord will judge your heart and intentions accordingly. He knows it is not sinful for you because you’ve not been convicted of it. However, if your brother or sister in Christ finds conviction in celebrating Easter - for any reason - then for them that is sin. There is no burden for them to prove it is an outright sin outlined in the Bible. Like I said, not every sin in our lives is outlined perfectly in the Bible. For instance, a simple anecdotal example... I feel convicted to bring in shopping carts outside of grocery stores that people have left behind. If I ignore the tug I feel in my spirit to grab the cart and place it where it belongs, then my hearts hurts knowing it was the leading of the Holy Spirit telling me to do so and I refused to obey. Yes, it’s a trivial task on the outside looking in, and I don’t believe it has any bearing on my salvation. But I know in my heart I’ve sinned when I disobey that gentle tug of the spirit. This same act may not be sin to you. Perhaps (or more than likely) this is not a conviction of yours because bringing in the carts is not a matter of obedience/disobedience for you. It is for me though! In short, let each of us follow our convictions. I’ve read many counter arguments to the ones you’ve outlined in your video. Very compelling arguments, mind you. But these people shouldn’t feel the need to defend their convictions to you, nor should you to them. I appreciate the amount of work and effort you put into each of your videos. I’ve watched many of them. I’m sure you’ve contributed countless hours of study, and it shows in the quality of evidence you bring to each video. However, this topic is a little dicey because you’re stating very matter-of-factly that these traditions are not sin, when in some cases they very well may be. I see you defending yourself in the comment section. You’ve made some very rude comments. Just please remember that whether or not these traditions are pagan is not always the root issue for Christians. It could be a question of “If I partake in this tradition, would it be honorable to the Lord in my own life”? If some people find these traditions dishonorable, that is their prerogative. On the flip side, if some do not find it dishonorable, then the Lord will surely not punish them for that which is not sin in their own convictions.
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is. You cannot go around on your high horse claiming other people are sinning by hiding eggs. That is my point.
@HeroQuestFans
@HeroQuestFans 4 жыл бұрын
Brotha J brought up the argument that people are being harmed by those of us who celebrate the holidays and say it is not sinful. However, I think this is shortsighted and misuses those Scriptures where Paul talks about weaker brothers. Otherwise we should never do anything except in secret, and we should in fact conform to whatever those around us are doing. We should keep strict kosher because a Jew might be offended. we should keep the entire Jewish law for their sake. we should keep Shariah too for the Muslims and so on. But I know they'll say no it only refers to Christians. so what is a Christian? Why are only traditional Christians (Catholics, Orthodox and conservative Protestants) being asked to "change" ? Why are the loosy goosy individualist Christians with their personal scruples based on their private interpretation of scripture or what they have been mislead to believe by somebody on the internet or the media, the ones who have to have their weaknesses honored and we have to change to fit their misconceptions of the faith? Some Christian thinks that only the King James version of teh bible is inspired. I can't just show him the error of his ways and convince him that KJV Onlyism is false, I have to promote his error instead? the whole PROBLEM existed in the first place because of the Anti-Holiday crowd. THEY created the problem that is leading people to "leave the Church" because of their "weakness." Paul did preach to respect the weaker brother but he also aggressively REFUTED the false teachers and the false teachings. So by the logic of Brother Ja and these folks, Paul was a hypocrite who should have shut up or been excommunicated I guess. Madness. So we can and should refute the anti-Holiday crowd, and I don't think any of us are going to go out of our way to try to offend a loved one over this, but if they get in our face looking for a fight it is they who are causing offense, not us. The whole society knows that these holidays aren't pagan it is the fringe minority seeking to impose their views on us. thus it is not like the time of the New Testament when the whole society was either pagan (and thought the gods had real power and the idols were everywhere) or Jewish (and thought strict adherence to the Mosaic law was a requirement for a righteous and holy life if not salvation itself). the atheists will point and say "you guys can't even get your sh*t together so why should we listen" so it just helps them. if the Church has to cancel its Christmas services, that is just giving in to the false teachers and the cultists who promote the anti-Holiday conspiracy theorizing. If you take their side you're really saying you believe the m I think. it's heresy they are preaching, and they are the intolerant ones. No offense, I see the emotional appeal of this "weaker brethren" argument but it is improper when applied to the holiday issue. someone losing their faith in Christ because a false teacher told them Christmas or Easter was pagan is the fault of the false teacher and the person who leaves is doing so to their own loss. These holidays are NOT pagan and we will continue to celebrate them until Christ returns. so best to educate people against the false teachings in the meainwhile. and celebrate in the best way you can.
@demicocoleman3508
@demicocoleman3508 4 жыл бұрын
Teresa beautifully stated is an understatement by farrrrr. Romans 14 and Deuteronomy 12:4 is what finalized my stance against Easter and Christmas. Specifically in “For if because of food your brother is hurt, you are no longer walking according to love. Do not destroy with your food him for whom Christ died. Therefore do not let what is for you a good thing be spoken of as evil; for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. For he who in this way serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭14:15-18‬ ‭NASB‬‬
@HeroQuestFans
@HeroQuestFans 4 жыл бұрын
@@demicocoleman3508 this is baloney. By that logic we can NEVER correct false teachings, because somebody out there will be "offended" by our correction. The notion that Christmas and Easter, etc. are "pagan and evil" is directly because of the CONFUSION sown by false teachers, starting with the Puritans, and furthered by the various preachers out there stirring up fear and division. Just as I don't have to stop eating pork because somewhere a Jew or Muslim might be offended, I don't have to stop working on the Jewish Sabbath because a Seventh Day Adventist might be offended, or stop drinking coffee because an LDS Mormon might be offended, or take down my crosses because a Jehovah's Witness might be offended. And I will keep using the New Testament even though to a Jew, I'm studying sectarian heresy whenever I do it! These "weaker brothers" we are talking about are inside the Church, but those who have denounced the Church as "pagan" and "apostate" and have joined these sects (or completely apostatized) are now to us like those outside. We can and SHOULD correct the false teachings, not adopt them ourselves. Don't you see how foolish and shortsighted it is to bow to the whims of these false teachers? Better to EDUCATE those confused by false teachers, than to give up my freedom, suppress the truth, and give power to their ignorance by indulging the false teaching.
@HeroQuestFans
@HeroQuestFans 4 жыл бұрын
@@demicocoleman3508 Paul regularly and publicly denounced those false teachers and I'm sure he offended countless "weaker brothers" with his preaching. so it is precisely the opposite here. we need to EDUCATE those confused by the false teachers who came in saying the holidays were pagan, not banning the holidays for fear we're offending those heretics. Am I going to just try to offend somebody? No, but saying I can't celebrate Christmas because I'll offend a heretic, is ridiculous. He won't get invited to my Christmas party but if the topic ever comes up, I'll show him exactly why his belief is unfounded just as I would correct someone who came to me saying I should stop worshiping Christ.
@drigondii
@drigondii Жыл бұрын
Since Easter broke the lenten fast, it is sensible that people would associate cheap seasonal meat (hare/ rabbit) and eggs and sweets (cream) with Easter Sunday, especially children.
@robertm2000
@robertm2000 7 жыл бұрын
"Jesus can change your heart but stupid is forever." Ernest Angley
@TorahisthetruthPsalms
@TorahisthetruthPsalms 4 жыл бұрын
@robertm2000 ...Jzeus can’t do anything. He’s dead.
@TorahisthetruthPsalms
@TorahisthetruthPsalms 4 жыл бұрын
@Belokonev0527 ....OK idolater.
@TorahisthetruthPsalms
@TorahisthetruthPsalms 4 жыл бұрын
@Belokonev0527 ...The invisible infinite Creator of the universe is my God. The same God of Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, & Moses. God is not a man Numbers 23:19.
@TorahisthetruthPsalms
@TorahisthetruthPsalms 4 жыл бұрын
@Belokonev0527 ...no, I’m a non Jew that follows which laws are in the Torah that applies to me. All mankind has laws to follow. There’s no trinity. The creator of the universe God is ONE! 1=1 doesn’t = 3. Making man made Christianity false.
@TorahisthetruthPsalms
@TorahisthetruthPsalms 4 жыл бұрын
@Belokonev0527 ...absolutely not. I would be violating Gods law by listening to a idol worshipper teach me about his idol. Your no different than a Hindu. They also have many idols. Isaiah 43:11 I, I am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior.
@luiscajigas5567
@luiscajigas5567 7 жыл бұрын
Just like the fool that says in his heart that there is no God, it is that same fool thats says Yeshua HaMachiach came to abolish the commandments that God said He will put in the heart of man as a new covenant. Think about this for a moment. Does that make any sense to anybody out there?
@danielmia5953
@danielmia5953 5 жыл бұрын
Well keep circuncising kids, keeping the sabbath and eating kosher even when Jesus and his apostles spoke and teached against them
@AncientBert
@AncientBert 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus is Salvation. The Law is meant for the righteousness of man. God loves His Law and those who hunger and thirst for Him and seek His Way. Discard your wandering and choose the path.
@russellscott6880
@russellscott6880 4 жыл бұрын
yes the truth always makes sense
@HeroQuestFans
@HeroQuestFans 4 жыл бұрын
You can't keep the commandments perfectly, and if you fail, you are under the curse of the Law. that's what the NT teaches. so you're saying you know that parts of the New Testament are wicked evil heresy, and parts of it are the truth? And who gave you this authority? The Black Hebrew Israelite cult? Some 19th or 20th century self proclaimed "prophet"??
@carbon273
@carbon273 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh. “For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.” But that no one is justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for “the just shall live by faith.” Yet the law is not of faith, but “the man who does them shall live by them.” Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”), that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.” ‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:10-14‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ “And this I say, that the law, which was four hundred and thirty years later, cannot annul the covenant that was confirmed before by God in Christ, that it should make the promise of no effect.” ‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:17‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ And to answer your rebuttal “What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator.” ‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:19‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ And finally, “But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.” ‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:22-25‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ You might as well read the whole chapter. When Jesus said that he came to fulfill the Law, he was referring to not just the 613 commandments but the prophesied narrative in the Old Testament/Tanakh. And to target your concern Romans 14 is a good chapter to read.
@requeaguirre2457
@requeaguirre2457 4 жыл бұрын
So basically while trying to debunk everyone else because of speculation or scarce evidence your explanation of why easter exists is based on speculation and probability
@KjudahsShowCUCFOPE
@KjudahsShowCUCFOPE 4 жыл бұрын
Facts!
@KjudahsShowCUCFOPE
@KjudahsShowCUCFOPE 4 жыл бұрын
@Michaela This man don't know what he talking about, what makes it pagan because they said christ died on Friday And Rose on Easter Sunday but you can't get three days and three nights from friday to Sunday that's a day 1/2 simple.
@aldairt4899
@aldairt4899 4 жыл бұрын
kjudah's show I invite u to watch his video on that
@jeremyjeconner5422
@jeremyjeconner5422 5 жыл бұрын
That's a outright lie easter is not of God and therefore pagan good Friday to Easter Sunday is not even 3 days and 3 nights
@jeremyjeconner5422
@jeremyjeconner5422 5 жыл бұрын
@VideoAudioDisco09 agreed he died on a Wednesday evening and rose Saturday evening
@jonathanbuyno9461
@jonathanbuyno9461 2 жыл бұрын
It’s still Pagan. I follow the Holy Word of God. I do not follow any man especially a KZbinr or any man under the sun. Do not believe these lies. There is a reason why Jesus said the gate is narrow. Do not be of this world fellow Christians.
@UnratedAwesomeness
@UnratedAwesomeness 7 жыл бұрын
"You have to be a complete moron..." Cuts to a shot of that guy 😂😂😂
@t3o
@t3o 4 жыл бұрын
1k downvotes on this video is insane! Top quality review, much appreciated.
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 4 жыл бұрын
They are all cowards who can't deal with real data, but what Easter to be pagan.
@t3o
@t3o 4 жыл бұрын
I rewatch this most years at Easter. We must never be afraid of truth - I've had to challenge my own intellectual dishonesty. God and the Bible are quite able to stand up by themselves without us having to cling to additional cultural fictions.
@t3o
@t3o 4 жыл бұрын
@Mr Kish Probably the older usage of the word
@Jesus_Saves_66
@Jesus_Saves_66 3 жыл бұрын
@@t3o actually you should be hating it as well... Jesus has absolutely nothing to do with Easter. It’s all paganism. Was Jesus in the earth for 3 days and 3 nights as the Bible says? So why does your false tradition say it was 3 days and 2 nights? Who is the liar?
@t3o
@t3o 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jesus_Saves_66, I don't think it's MY false tradition. That gives me a lot of credit for decisions dating back many hundreds of years. But thanks for reminding me about this video! 🔥 Now go read Romans 14:5-6 and have a rest
@drewk5929
@drewk5929 6 жыл бұрын
The only message this guy has is “he don’t know for sure??” So why risk or borrow anything that isn’t truly biblical?? Follow the word and only the word
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 6 жыл бұрын
We point out Easter is harmless for anyone who wants to celebrate it.
@ArchangelsBookClub
@ArchangelsBookClub 7 жыл бұрын
Dude! Are you Eastern Orthodox?! I've been watching you for YEARS! I once was a Oneness Pentecostal and denied the Trinity, and your videos were one of the influences that led me to embrace the Trinity, and when I saw an Orthodox book and the OCA website, I thought, Holy Cow! This guy has been evangelising me for years!!!
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 7 жыл бұрын
That is great to hear!
@nox567
@nox567 2 жыл бұрын
Up Eastern Orthodox. In my opinion they explain the Trinity better than any Christian
@sathsojourns
@sathsojourns Жыл бұрын
@@nox567 Absolutely agreed, even as a non denom Christian for 9-10 months now I always leaned on their great theology behind the Holy Trinity (it explained all experiences I've had in accordance with Scripture). If you are an Eastern Orthodox Christian, could you give me some advice on how to get started? I know I should speak to a priest soon but I'd appreciate help from a brother/sister in Christ before I go. God bless you, stay firm in our Lord and Saviour Jesus always!
@thebestisyettocomegodisawe1081
@thebestisyettocomegodisawe1081 6 жыл бұрын
Well...coming from a philosopher thats ironic, considering philosophy is ALSO pagan.
@michaeldiaz3949
@michaeldiaz3949 5 жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂🤣😁😁😁😁😁So true!!!!
@5crassrocker
@5crassrocker 5 жыл бұрын
Explain
@michaeldiaz3949
@michaeldiaz3949 5 жыл бұрын
@@5crassrocker read the book of enoch...that's one way to explain! but also in the context of originality, philosophy is pagan. All the ancient Greek and Romans have traditions that are rooted in false gods worshiping and is widely known as pagan. From the false god worship and the relationship they had with the fallen angels (greek and roman gods) comes the question..."did God really say ..." and there was born philosophy!
@michaeldiaz3949
@michaeldiaz3949 5 жыл бұрын
@@5crassrocker in a nut shell
@volvanochaser1099
@volvanochaser1099 5 жыл бұрын
No it isn’t
@RT-ff4ux
@RT-ff4ux 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not hearing any hard evidence here either.....a lot of "probably"
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 6 жыл бұрын
So you just assume your conclusion Easter is pagan even though no evidence supports that?
@corywiedenbeck1562
@corywiedenbeck1562 5 жыл бұрын
@@InspiringPhilosophy you don't know what he knows, dont be smug
@michaeldiaz3949
@michaeldiaz3949 5 жыл бұрын
@@InspiringPhilosophy I subscribed to your channel in error! I'll be fixing this...
@LionofLight777
@LionofLight777 5 жыл бұрын
@@InspiringPhilosophy Yep!...No assumptions...Just straight up pagan.🤔
@HeroQuestFans
@HeroQuestFans 4 жыл бұрын
@@LionofLight777 so no evidence then?
@justinbouy3153
@justinbouy3153 2 жыл бұрын
You’ll never know the confidence you instill in the body of Christ. Never stop. Never give up
@virolo1960
@virolo1960 2 жыл бұрын
"Easter is not pagan" Yes it is.
@gabrielle-d1b
@gabrielle-d1b 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, it is
@albertohernandez8721
@albertohernandez8721 2 жыл бұрын
Nope
@DistantVision85
@DistantVision85 7 жыл бұрын
Cherry-picking goes both ways..
@licheguitar
@licheguitar 5 жыл бұрын
There's cherry picking, and then there's biblical themes and prophecy, that tie in with Holy calendar and observances, that herald the coming pf messiah and outline his fulfillments of ancient scriptures. These are to be observed, and all else rejected. We cannot make excuses for dismissing God's timeline and law for observance of false, pagan origined, exhaltations......the cherry picking is making excuses to do things "we've always done" in place of Torah. You cannot mix them, and it is explicitly forbidden in every legitimate testament.
@livingwater7580
@livingwater7580 5 жыл бұрын
@@licheguitar there is no law keeping, that's a heretical and false teaching as Easter, you can have law and grace, Moses(THE LAW) did not inherit the promise land Joshua did. study the word of God.
@licheguitar
@licheguitar 5 жыл бұрын
Obviously Friend, there is no law-keeping. This was all fulfilled by Yeshua.....but, if we are to follow him, we are told to keep his commandments. These commandments are the Torah. We do them because we love him, not because we are trying to fulfill them. We know Christ already did.. This is a large part of understanding our salvation......the law is never for earning merit, only walking, albeit poorly, in Yeshua's footsteps .........because he walked out the Torah you know. And not so we didn't have to, but because we could never......and he loved us enough to do it for us, and set the example to follow.
@evilsbane7773
@evilsbane7773 Жыл бұрын
5:33 so are rabbits a symbol of Jesus or a symbol of spring? If it’s not of Jesus should the body celebrate it?
@retrobua7460
@retrobua7460 Жыл бұрын
Two things need to be said here: Yes, obviously Easter is not a pagan holiday. It is christian to its core. No single easter tradition comes from anything pagan. However, the name "Easter" is indeed of pagan origin (just as the Norse Jul for 'Christmas'). As you mentioned, St. Bede gives the name "Eostre" as a deity that's being worshipped in spring. I find the argumentation that he made it up or was confused quite ridiculous. It is striking that in every western Germanic language, the name of Easter derives from that root also found in the month April (for example, Old High German ostarmanoth), whereas in every other European language, they use a word derived from Pesach, the corresponding Jewish festival celebrated around the same time. Not only do I find St. Bede to be believable as he has no reason to lie about the existence of some pagan deity, and he is otherwise very accurate in his historical accounts, but there is also some linguistic evidence that links the name "Eostre" (which would be *Austro(n) in proto-germanic) to other Indo-European deities. It is very likely that that name is cognate with the Roman Aurora, the Greek Ēṓs, the Indian Uṣas, the Lithuanian Aušrinė, and the Latvian Auseklis, all of which are dawn goddesses stemming from the proto-Indo-European Hausos. As dawn goddesses, their names are also all cognate with the respective words for "east," as the sun rises in the east. Taking that into account, it doesn't take much to interpret Eostre as either a western Germanic goddess of dawn or the name for a celebration of spring in April. Again, that doesn't make Easter a pagan holiday but one does not need to deny ANY pagan relation (in this case only a linguistic relation). This whole Ishtar-confabulation is obvious bullshit, though.
@rustyk4100
@rustyk4100 7 жыл бұрын
It seems to me that the main point has been missed here. The formal church deliberately attempted to design a formula for “Easter” which would avoid any possibility of falling on the Jewish Passover, even accidentally! Those who continued to keep Easter with the Jews were called Quartodecimans (14th of Nisan) and were excommunicated from the church. Eusebius wrote in the Life of Constantine; “… it appeared an unworthy thing that in the celebration of this most holy feast we should follow the practice of the Jews, who have impiously defiled their hands with enormous sin, and are therefore, deservedly afflicted with blindness of soul. … Let us then have nothing in common with the detestable Jewish crowd; for we have received from our Saviour a different way.” Mal 3:16 For I, the Lord, do not change. Abraham’s covenant is unconditional. Yeshua is the King of the Jews. Scripture came from the Jews. Antisemitism is not only bad for the Jews but for the Christian as well because they are missing out on a lot of rich heritage, for example, Yeshua fulfilling the Passover. The real question here should be; What will bring you closer to God? Everything we do in life will do one of two things. Move you closer or move you further away from Him. If bunnies, eating chocolate and painting eggs somehow accomplishes this, by all means, ‘just do it’.
@SuperOkfine
@SuperOkfine 7 жыл бұрын
Good comment
@Dee-nonamnamrson8718
@Dee-nonamnamrson8718 3 жыл бұрын
I would have to disagree that all actions either move you closer or further from God. Feeding my pet turtle is surely a neutral action. Washing dishes as well.
@tammymullins1151
@tammymullins1151 2 жыл бұрын
The Passover is rich in symbolism and foretold the death of the coming Lamb of God. But the Passover and the Resurrection Sunday celebrate separate things. God intentionally gave us the resurrection during spring time when the whole earth is being brought back to life from the season of winter. The whole earth declares the glorious resurrection of our Lord.
@vatsalsudani2006
@vatsalsudani2006 2 жыл бұрын
Yessir appreciate this! Funny how people normalize what's man made but consider biblical festivals religious, boring and unimportant.
@igorlopes7589
@igorlopes7589 6 ай бұрын
And what's the issue with that? Trying to differentiate christianity from judaism was necessary to avoid judaizers from spreading their errors
@zenboy21
@zenboy21 3 жыл бұрын
Some excellent points (many of which I have been making for years myself!😏). The only criticism I would make is that I think you dismissed the idea of the modern painting of boiled eggs being inspired by medieval Christians who dyed eggs red (and still do in places like Greece and Slovenia) too quickly. The eggs are eventually eaten as a celebration of Spring, so, personally, I think it has a lot of explanatory power.... Thanks for posting!
@DANtheMANofSIPA
@DANtheMANofSIPA 3 жыл бұрын
I dont think pagan origins is even a problem. If you believe this represents Jesus' resurrection, that is what matters. Consumerism is the real problem. All this easter bunny stuff. Its the same with Christmas. It doesnt matter if it was pagan, what matters is that consumerism takes Jesus out of these holidays and makes them about seeing how best they can get you spending money (ie. Xmas literally Xs Christ out of Christmas)
@dorisbrown1921
@dorisbrown1921 4 жыл бұрын
The only reason your supporting easter is because you don't want to give it up, that's it.
@Jesus_Saves_66
@Jesus_Saves_66 3 жыл бұрын
Amen 🙏
@lauriebethhouseofgd600
@lauriebethhouseofgd600 6 жыл бұрын
"To the pure, all things are pure..."
@AncientBert
@AncientBert 5 жыл бұрын
Fallacious reasoning. Evil would be "pure" with this logic. God declares what is pure. Trust in Him.
@droe2570
@droe2570 3 жыл бұрын
@@AncientBert You do realize he's quoting Paul. right? "I know and am convinced in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself; but to him who thinks anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean." Romans 14: 14
@yeshuaisisaiah9650
@yeshuaisisaiah9650 3 жыл бұрын
There is a man in my congregation that believes his incest is pure. So I guess he's good
@jephilologist
@jephilologist 3 жыл бұрын
@@yeshuaisisaiah9650 You are isolating away from and misinterpreting the quote. It says, *To the pure*, all things are pure. "To the pure, all things are pure; but to those who are defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure, but both their mind and their conscience are defiled." Titus 1:15 Ask yourself, is that man in your congregation "pure"? Taken in the context of the passage, this is not just about believing a certain thing is pure or not. This is about the beholder of those things. If the beholder is someone with warped, twisted and false doctrine, of course they will have the wrong ideas about reality. Should you listen to the false teachers who teach you to "abstain from certain things", or hold to the teaching of the apostles?
@justinandbobbie
@justinandbobbie 3 жыл бұрын
Including all of the genocide in the Old Testament. You know, for a God totally capable of striking down entire populations on his own (allegedly), he sure does have a long record of telling humans to do it for him... or else he'llmake sure they're next...
@azurephoenix9546
@azurephoenix9546 2 жыл бұрын
Chickens are prone to stop laying eggs in the winter and start laying them again in spring. It's almost like Easter traditions are derived from having food again and not having to rely on your ever-dwindling winter stores that would almost assuredly be gone by spring. 🤪
@tommyverstraete5678
@tommyverstraete5678 Жыл бұрын
Yeah and not derived from Christianity, but blended with it.
@licheguitar
@licheguitar 5 жыл бұрын
Um, YES it is undoubtedly Pagan in custom and origin. Don't let replacement theology fool you.
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 5 жыл бұрын
Evidence, please.
@5crassrocker
@5crassrocker 5 жыл бұрын
Site your source
@licheguitar
@licheguitar 5 жыл бұрын
Just type "Easter Babylon" in Google. You get this. "Easter was originally the celebration of Ishtar, the Assyrian and Babyloniangoddess of fertility and sex. ... After Constantine decided to Christianize the Empire, Easter was changed to represent Jesus. But at its roots, Easter (which is how you pronounce Ishtar) is all about celebrating fertility and sex.".........ohhh, whaddya know?! Had bunnies and child sacrifice too. Oh and dipped eggs in sacrificial blood. And still quasi-celebrated in devotion to Ishtar [pronounced Easter] by modern pagans today. Like I said, replacement theology, because post-crucifixion converts did not want drop their pagan celebrations and keep יהוה's times and seasons. So what did they do?....they mixed it all together and just slapped "Jesus" over the false deitie's name, and, Voila! EASTER 🐣 en.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Hebrew_Roots/Neglected_Commandments/Idolatry/Easter
@aperta7525
@aperta7525 5 жыл бұрын
@@licheguitar Jesus existed before the Babylonian mythos were made by insecure pagans trying to re-make itself as somehow relevant when, after the Passion, Death, and Resurrection around the FULL MOON OF THE 4TH MONTH as stated in the Gospel of John, paganism was proven to be the intrusive interloper between God and Man, by sources of Jewish and Gentile origin, in the time it has been said to occur. You need to not be so gullible while you are committed to being un-informed.
@aperta7525
@aperta7525 5 жыл бұрын
@@licheguitar Oh, and the story of Easter Eggs revolves around Mary Magdalene and a braggart Roman official who refused to believe in Christ. Look it up.
@TheophilusMostExcellent
@TheophilusMostExcellent 7 жыл бұрын
I found your claims that most scholars think Bede's reference to Ēostre was made up is rather misleading. That may have once been the majority view, but scholarship does not hold that view exclusively anymore. In fact, there has been some development that has swayed most into now believing that Bede is accurate. Here is some valuable information from the Ēostre Wiki page that speaks directly to this issue: [[Some debate has occurred over whether or not the goddess was an invention of Bede's, particularly in the 19th century before more widespread reconstructions of the Proto-Indo-European dawn goddess. Writing in the late 19th century, Charles J. Billson notes that scholars before his writing were divided about the existence of Bede's account of Ēostre, stating that "among authorities who have no doubt as to her existence are W. Grimm, Wackernagel, Sinrock [sic], and Wolf. On the other hand, Weinhold rejects the idea on philological grounds, and so do Heinrich Leo and Hermann Oesre. Kuhn says, 'The Anglo-Saxon Eostre looks like an invention of Bede;' and Mannhardt also dismisses her as an etymological dea ex machina." Billson says that "the whole question turns [...], upon Bede's credibility", and that "one is inclined to agree with Grimm, that it would be uncritical to saddle this eminent Father of the Church, who keeps Heathendom at arms' length and tells us less of than he knows, with the invention of this goddess." Billson points out that the Christianization of England started at the end of the 6th century, and, by the 7th, was completed. Billson argues that, as Bede was born in 672, Bede must have had opportunities to learn the names of the native goddesses of the Anglo-Saxons, "who were hardly extinct in his lifetime." Writing in the late 20th century, Rudolf Simek says that, despite expressions of doubts, Bede's account of Eostre should not be disregarded. Simek opines that a "Spring-like fertility goddess" must be assumed rather than a "goddess of sunrise" regardless of the name, reasoning that "otherwise the Germanic goddesses (and matrons) are mostly connected with prosperity and growth". Simek points to a comparison with the goddess Rheda, also attested by Bede. Scholar Philip A. Shaw (2011) writes that the subject has seen "a lengthy history of arguments for and against Bede's goddess Eostre, with some scholars taking fairly extreme positions on either side" and that some theories against the goddess have gained popular cultural prominence. Shaw, however, notes that "much of this debate, however, was conducted in ignorance of a key piece of evidence, as it was not discovered until 1958. This evidence is furnished by over 150 Romano-Germanic votive inscriptions to deities named the matronae Austriahenae, found near Morken-Harff and datable to around 150-250 AD". Most of these inscriptions are in an incomplete state, yet most are in a complete enough for reasonable clarity of the inscriptions. As early as 1966 scholars have linked these names etymologically with Eostre and an element found in Germanic personal names.]] That last portion speaks of other sources for her historicity. The page also claims that the month Ēosturmōnaþ (i.e. April) is named after her, that Easter derives etymologically from her name and points out that her name is found embedded in historic place and personal names.
@SirIkeMedia
@SirIkeMedia 6 жыл бұрын
You sir, are very confused.
@greenergrass4060
@greenergrass4060 3 жыл бұрын
The Fools still deny the fact that easter is not pagan. 🐣 I always find it funny how the biggest point of contention is the eggs and bunny.
@greenergrass4060
@greenergrass4060 3 жыл бұрын
Like, in my country its custom we give our loved ones flowers on easter.
@paulhopkins1905
@paulhopkins1905 3 жыл бұрын
My biggest point of contention is they didn't even change the name. Eostre
@igorlopes7589
@igorlopes7589 6 ай бұрын
​@@paulhopkins1905??? You know this was only the name at England, right? In all other countries it was called Pascha and it already lwas explicitly on the historical record in the second century
@Testimony_in_song
@Testimony_in_song 6 ай бұрын
The bible says "Call no man a fool".
@igorlopes7589
@igorlopes7589 6 ай бұрын
@@Testimony_in_song It also says call no man father, and yet you can call your male parent as father
@chriswentzel5339
@chriswentzel5339 5 жыл бұрын
If it's for passover, celebrate on passover date shown in leviticus.
@biancasaucado
@biancasaucado 5 жыл бұрын
He don’t believe in the Bible so forget it
@Christian-lm6qh
@Christian-lm6qh 5 жыл бұрын
But it's a new covenant, not the old covenant. Big J makes that pretty clear.
@chriswentzel5339
@chriswentzel5339 5 жыл бұрын
@@Christian-lm6qh then where does it say to celebrate it then? If it's not passover, then its pagen, correct? Otherwise why use the pagen date? And this is the only reason these holy days are still able to be celebrated...because they are actually pagen...that's why most still buy into the chocolate bunny's and Santa aswell....we just get comfortable with the pagans cause we dont wanna be different, but really scripture says to be in this world and not of it, to be set apart, and that the world will hate us...just like what is happening the deeper I get into studying truth which led me back from a long road away from God...turns out science proves the scriptures lil and I only found this through studying things I've never heard from a lifetime of church going...now I am back but no one believes anything I say even though it's right in scripture, the same scripture others supposedly read, but in reality just get there info from Sunday morning repeat sessions and never get to real controversial topics ;) oops sorry I ramble a lot lol :( but anyway still very interested as I too want to at least fit in with family....
@chriswentzel5339
@chriswentzel5339 5 жыл бұрын
@@biancasaucado You are correct, I dont believe in the bible. I know scripture to be true ;) belief is for people who can't or won't research for truth. Worship in truth Have a love for truth Test all things and hold fast to what is good.
@Christian-lm6qh
@Christian-lm6qh 5 жыл бұрын
Chris Wentzel Could explain what you mean by the pagan date?
@jaylivi
@jaylivi 6 жыл бұрын
This video lacks evidence for the claims. pretty hollow statements
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 6 жыл бұрын
So you just ignore all my sources?
@rubyhernandezrico
@rubyhernandezrico 5 жыл бұрын
Nothing is certain in this videos and apparently all the trails for documents end
@wandarichard1865
@wandarichard1865 5 жыл бұрын
I hear evidence. I hear history.
@Roel_Scoot
@Roel_Scoot 6 жыл бұрын
In the Netherlands there is no easter rabbit but a paashaas (maartse haas = mare hare) who is hiding the easter eggs for the kids to find. Nothing christian in that, just celebrating end of winter and beginning of spring.
@peacebe2u480
@peacebe2u480 Жыл бұрын
It is ok if it stops at celebration of winter ends n beginning of spring season. Just dont associate its festivity with the resurrection day. We dont even know exactly when jesus crucified.. bible had no dates.. everything is assumption.
@michaeldeo5068
@michaeldeo5068 7 жыл бұрын
A little leaven leavens the whole lump. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
@CSWRB
@CSWRB 3 жыл бұрын
So why not just celebrate the Biblically mentioned holiday of Passover?
@a.k.a.watchmenwakeup
@a.k.a.watchmenwakeup 5 жыл бұрын
The sad truth about being a watchman is that the more I attempt to bring awareness to the church, no matter what denomination, I find that the prophecies written against the last generation are in fact coming to pass by their own responses. There is very little fear of the Lord, a high sense of entitlement, an ignorance to scripture (especially prophecy and Paul’s words) This is also prophecy being fulfilled. It doesn’t matter how many scriptures I post and try to reason with people about, they either don’t bother reading them, or they don’t try to understand them due to holding to their own traditions. The reason people can not understand the scriptures has everything to do with sin in ones life. Lawlessness. A hatred towards law. Without law there is anarchy. Often the word “law” is misinterpreted in the mind of the reader. What they want to hear is that how they live their individual life is exactly good enough. When sanctification is a process that the Holy Spirit takes the believers through. This example is clearly revealed in the book of revelation. Pointing our attention to chapter 2 & 3. A small handful understand the significance of these warnings to the last churches. It’s just like Paul says in Timothy, that they will have a form of godliness but they will deny the power there in. By example I’ll clearly confess that by obedience the Holy Spirit will guide an individual. It’s believing this that will save you. Christ died to give you this gift but if you refuse it then how can he clean the temple? The Ten Commandments were being altered in Christ’s day. He came to stop the religious leaders from adding non biblical burdens on top of them. Then he went around healing his people from drunkenness, blindness,prostitution,dishonesty,etc. Why did he do this? Because the leaders were pushing his people away from the truth in the commandments. Well, the same thing is happening today. Collectively,the church, as a whole,has taken it upon themselves to incorporate pagan rituals and traditions into the assembly. Thus causing demonic bonds with in the house of God. The overall concept is that lawlessness is good and the commandments are not required nor are they required. It’s in the simplicity of Christ that these Ten Commandments have been filled up. But as long as the church blends Baal,mithra,nimrod,Ishtar,Easter,Christ-mass, etc,etc then your ears will not be opened. The Ten Commandments are the first works but the last works are greater than the first. This does not save you, Christ does, but it’s the sign of your salvation. It’s like this: you fall into a well, Christ walks by and offers salvation, he says hold out your hand and he will pull you out. If you don’t hold out your hand, he can’t save you. Is it your hand that pulled you out, or was it his.???Your hand represents obedience and his represents salvation, that no man can boast. When we have ear plugs in our ears, we rather continue on worshiping Christmas and Easter, arrogantly Ignoring the Commandments #1 not to use the Lords name in vain,#2 not to make graven images #3 love the Lord your God with all your heart soul and mind #4 don’t lie #5 don’t covet ... do you not see where this is going? “And I will give them up to a reprobate mind” Paul says you are allowed to eat turkey (for example) because you know there is one true God and you are not ignorant to the sin of fallen angel worship. But if you do it and cause your brother to think Christ-mass is ok then you are guilty of his sin. You can eat turkey every day if you want. You are free to do this, but if it has the appearance of sin and causes a domino effect over (let’s say) 100+ years, and an entire Christian nation falls into great sin, then you are guilty of sin. Seven feasts were given to the believers of the living God. To worship him the way he wants to be worshiped. Christ says this will happen one day. But before it happens Ezekiel 37 will happen. Not only that chapter but Jeremiah 31 too(if you repent) Being a watchman is not pleasant but it’s necessary. Do I enjoy it? At first it was sweet in my mouth, but as I swallow it, it becomes bitter. I love you people but if you don’t stop your own traditions, you will suffer the consequences. Not because God is mean, but because you are in alliance to the darkness that he must destroy. This is why he gave us the messiah, to teach us how to overcome. This is my son, in him I am well pleased, do EVERYTHING he says!!!! He said “ I obey my father “
@SuperfluidAlkaloid
@SuperfluidAlkaloid 3 жыл бұрын
^ insanity
@the3lewisgirls
@the3lewisgirls 8 ай бұрын
They have no idea why the northern kingdom was carted off to Assyria to begin with.
@nparksntx
@nparksntx 7 жыл бұрын
I don't have a problem with bunnies or the act of painting eggs. It's that it has absolutely nothing to do with the resurrection. It's my personal opinion that it's not glorifying to spend the most important of all Christian holidays going on egg hunts, getting candy & gifts. I am that mom that doesn't let my kid do the egg hunt after church on Easter.
@Eidann63
@Eidann63 7 жыл бұрын
narksntx: So don't do the eggs and bunnies, just like many don't do Santa Claus at Christmas for the same reasons. Spend your Easter in a meaningful way recognizing Jesus resurrection without the addition of those items. No need to put those into it if you feel they are counter to your feelings and beliefs. May God bless your very thoughtful and meaningful Easter sunday.
@guruthegr8est203
@guruthegr8est203 7 жыл бұрын
nparksntx ooohh I dont.let them.egg hunt but Ill condemn them to death by worshipping paganism....how dumb. ..the whole holiday is stupid and is a pagan offshoot of pesha in The Testimony falsely called O.T.
@ghostlylover99123
@ghostlylover99123 7 жыл бұрын
nparksntx your a wise mom, most abusers attack during the Easter hunt, knowing the parents will excuse the child's slightly long "absence"
@olandofuller5588
@olandofuller5588 6 жыл бұрын
nparksntx Easter is a person not a day. In Greek her name is ISHTAR. Going to church isn't wrong but when you go to a service dedicated to ISHTAR aka Easter that is wrong.
@LightSeekers777
@LightSeekers777 5 жыл бұрын
So like God said keep the feasts forever and ever multiple times in Scripture he must not have meant forever and ever. Hmmm, Should I believe you or God? How about when he says if anyone comes and preaches anything different then his Commandments and Torah then their accursed? I think when Paul said this he was quoting Deuteronomy. Most of the New Testament is quoting the Old Testament. Why would they do that if it all changed question mark seems to me you don't know the Old Testament well.
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 5 жыл бұрын
Col 2:16-17 says we don't have to keep them anymore. Get lost.
@LightSeekers777
@LightSeekers777 5 жыл бұрын
@@InspiringPhilosophy I think you misunderstand what you read, the Pagans were judging them for keeping the feast. New moon is what they kept in David's day, so you judging me for keeping the law and Sabbaths is what the Bible is saying. Also who is allowed to override God's laws and authority, Jesus came preaching God's doctrine, He tells us this "My doctrine is not My own." "If you don't believe MOSES AND THE PROPHETS they won't be persuaded if one rises from the dead. We are IN the great DECEPTION my friend and you have been deceived by the enemy to believe rebellion to God's laws is okay. Many have woke up, why do you think Rev. says to the church "Come out of her?" He wants them to come out of the church. The wilderness is all a parable for us. Golden calf= false Jesus (Catholic Easter/Ishtar and Christmas/Baal) call it what you want, God says do not worship me in this way. Baal peor test of sensuality/immorality we are to be set apart. We are gently being tested to see if will be obedient don't be deceived by the enemy in the Bible Disobedience and Rebellion is always a bad idea.
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 5 жыл бұрын
There is no evidence of that in the context, and even if that was true that is not what Paul says. He says let no one judge concerning any festival. So you can't judge me because I don't feel it is necessary to keep them and i cannot judge it. It goes both ways. Furthermore, NT Wright draws attention to Col. 2:8 where he uses a very rare word we translate as “take captive.” This is the only time the present participle appears in all of early Christian literature, and we have only found the word two other times in all of the surviving Greek literature. So why would Paul use this odd word when it was not his typical writing style or commonly used at all? NT Wright answers this by saying, “My proposal is to treat the word as an ironic pun on the Greek word synagōgē, ‘synagogue’. There is no verbal form of this word, but it would not be difficult to imagine one. Nor would it be difficult to see how the two words would resemble one another. ‘Watch out,’ he might be saying, ‘that there isn’t anybody there who might “en-synagogue” you’ …Paul’s letters were of course designed to be read out loud, and phonetically the two are extremely close. So close, in fact, are the liquid ‘l’ sound and the nasal ‘n’ sound that grammarians regularly lump liquids and nasals together. They share elements of morphological behaviour, and under certain circumstances can easily be swapped.” (Page 994) In other words, the original Greek contains a wordplay, lost in the English, where Paul is directly telling Christians to not be en-synagogue-ed into jewish practices, because as he says in verse 16, they were just a shadow of things to come and are no longer required.
@LightSeekers777
@LightSeekers777 5 жыл бұрын
@@InspiringPhilosophy sounds like you're going to extreme lengths to pursue Rebellion and disobey God.
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you cannot do actual research and would rather just assume you are right regardless of where the evidence leads. If you are not interested in truth you are not interested in Christ, but making the scriptures say what you want.
@toddsmith8029
@toddsmith8029 6 жыл бұрын
Man you got a lot to learn. Its hard for me to find a place to start, but I will say you shouldn't call them ant-holiday instead you should call them ( i.e. the people calling Christmas and Easter pagan) " scripture readers. There is no mention of Easter or anything of the sort in scripture. #thatstuffpagan
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 6 жыл бұрын
Okay, where does scripture say you cannot celebrate Easter or Christmas?
@toddsmith8029
@toddsmith8029 6 жыл бұрын
InspiringPhilosophy Jeremiah 10:10 Appointed times change between groups, and we know no lie is of the truth (e.g. Easter). Revelation (hazon) 22:15 See, what's happening is The Almighty has his own festivals but his people have forgotten them. In this video the person tries to convince us that rabbits and eggs are not symbols in the festival of Easter. That's not true it doesn't even make sense. It doesn't matter what the symbols mean they don't relate to the lamb of the almighty. How do I know that? Because it doesn't pass the test of fire. Exodus 20:14 Amos 5:13 Galatiyim 4:9-11 And a key is to neither add nor take away from the word of the Almighty. That would be a sin.
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 6 жыл бұрын
None of those show you cannot celebrate Easter.
@toddsmith8029
@toddsmith8029 6 жыл бұрын
The son of our Mighty one did not die on a Friday and did not rise on a Sunday. The Bible tells you that. Easter is based on another religion from some other culture so Jeremiah 10:10 should be enough, because we worship in truth... I believe the others defend my point, the stories of a disobedient people brings these scriptures to mind. there is a story in the books of the kings where the people worshipped Baal and our Heavenly Father, but Eliyah told the people some what "if you choose to worship baal the worship baal, but if you choose to worship him that brought the children of Yesrael then do that". Easter is a man made feast and will not be in the coming kingdom, it will die and teach it's observes death.
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 6 жыл бұрын
The Bible is pretty clear Jesus died on Friday and rose on Sunday. Even Torah resources admits that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGWagaZ3hLtqmNk And no one is trying to worship Jesus by painting eggs so you are making up lies about Christians.
@KamiTenchi
@KamiTenchi 7 жыл бұрын
You gotta be kidding me! First Christmas, Now Easter?
@AveChristusRex
@AveChristusRex 7 жыл бұрын
Would you look at that: Christians actually DON'T celebrate anything other than the Nativity and Resurrection at Church on Christ-Mass and Pascha. Who would've thought.
@KamiTenchi
@KamiTenchi 7 жыл бұрын
+Libera Nos Domine STFU! Not everyone likes to celebrate Holidays and stuff and take that Satanic image off, We all know Jesus and Mary were not Caucasians. +Kymmberly Gail So does mean we can't date?
@AveChristusRex
@AveChristusRex 7 жыл бұрын
+Yato Senpai You Luther-kin are out of your mind! This picture of Christ is Satanic and Jesus was black and Easter is the devil. You were never of us, and that's why you broke away so you could interpret Scripture as you will. The narrow road does not include "STFU", +Free Water. You will render an account for "every idle word that [you] shall speak". "Next video he uploads will be telling people that they should engage in orgies and child sacrifices as well" Yes because nothing says "ordies and child sacrifices" as much as "Exult, let them exult, the hosts of heaven, exult, let Angel ministers of God exult, let the trumpet of salvation sound aloud our mighty King's triumph! Be glad, let earth be glad, as glory floods her, ablaze with light from her eternal King, let all corners of the earth be glad, knowing an end to gloom and darkness. Rejoice, let Mother Church also rejoice, arrayed with the lightning of his glory, let this holy building shake with joy, filled with the mighty voices of the peoples. (Therefore, dearest friends, standing in the awesome glory of this holy light, invoke with me, I ask you, the mercy of God almighty, that he, who has been pleased to number me, though unworthy, among the Levites, may pour into me his light unshadowed, that I may sing this candle's perfect praises). (Deacon: The Lord be with you. People: And with your spirit.) Deacon: Lift up your hearts. People: We lift them up to the Lord. Deacon: Let us give thanks to the Lord our God. People: It is right and just. It is truly right and just, with ardent love of mind and heart and with devoted service of our voice, to acclaim our God invisible, the almighty Father, and Jesus Christ, our Lord, his Son, his Only Begotten. Who for our sake paid Adam's debt to the eternal Father, and, pouring out his own dear Blood, wiped clean the record of our ancient sinfulness. These, then, are the feasts of Passover, in which is slain the Lamb, the one true Lamb, whose Blood anoints the doorposts of believers. This is the night, when once you led our forebears, Israel's children, from slavery in Egypt and made them pass dry-shod through the Red Sea. This is the night that with a pillar of fire banished the darkness of sin. This is the night that even now throughout the world, sets Christian believers apart from worldly vices and from the gloom of sin, leading them to grace and joining them to his holy ones. This is the night when Christ broke the prison-bars of death and rose victorious from the underworld. Our birth would have been no gain, had we not been redeemed. O wonder of your humble care for us! O love, O charity beyond all telling, to ransom a slave you gave away your Son! O truly necessary sin of Adam, destroyed completely by the Death of Christ! O happy fault that earned for us so great, so glorious a Redeemer! O truly blessed night, worthy alone to know the time and hour when Christ rose from the underworld! This is the night of which it is written: The night shall be as bright as day, dazzling is the night for me, and full of gladness. The sanctifying power of this night dispels wickedness, washes faults away, restores innocence to the fallen, and joy to mourners, drives out hatred, fosters concord, and brings down the mighty. On this, your night of grace, O holy Father, accept this candle, a solemn offering, the work of bees and of your servants' hands, an evening sacrifice of praise, this gift from your most holy Church. But now we know the praises of this pillar, which glowing fire ignites for God's honour, a fire into many flames divided, yet never dimmed by sharing of its light, for it is fed by melting wax, drawn out by mother bees to build a torch so precious. O truly blessed night, when things of heaven are wed to those of earth, and divine to the human. Therefore, O Lord, we pray you that this candle, hallowed to the honour of your name, may persevere undimmed, to overcome the darkness of this night. Receive it as a pleasing fragrance, and let it mingle with the lights of heaven. May this flame be found still burning by the Morning Star: the one Morning Star who never sets, Christ your Son, who, coming back from death's domain, has shed his peaceful light on humanity, and lives and reigns for ever and ever. Amen." Boy them Catholics in the fifth century (and today) sure did know how to worship Satan on Easter, right?
@KamiTenchi
@KamiTenchi 7 жыл бұрын
Hahaha...You got that right.
@paulettemorris544
@paulettemorris544 6 жыл бұрын
Tenchi you gotta be kidding me IF you are a true believer of God and dont study your word to know this stuff. They that must worship him must worship in spirit and truth.
@truthseeker4879
@truthseeker4879 5 жыл бұрын
I love the way he said pagan worship simply just died out and not blended in with culture
@hejallihopa4304
@hejallihopa4304 3 жыл бұрын
@@thedude9941 people in Sweden still practice the old pagan holidays
@retrobua7460
@retrobua7460 Жыл бұрын
Which isn't entirely true. Syncretism is everywhere. In catholicism, people just slapped the best-fitting saint onto local deities and called it a day. Just look at Mexico (especially Yucatan), where there are still forms of Mayan religious traditions within their veneration of local saints. In Europe, it's harder to find, since christianity has been here for 1000 to 1700 years (depending on the region), but especially in the Baltic countries, which were christianized last, many pagan folk tales, customs, and superstitions persevered. In parts of Germany, we still have veneration of Matronae, old Celto-Germanic (and somewhat Roman) mother goddesses, which were mostly banned in the Middle Ages. But in some regions, the catholic church decided around the same time to just put chapels of female saints at the spot where the local population worshipped the old goddesses. The choir of Bonn Minster, for example, was built somewhat directly over a Matronae temple. The Alpine folk legend of Perchta most likely goes back to a mixture of Germanic, Celtic, and Slavic beliefs (in some parts of Germany, a variation of her was still named Frau Frick(e) or Frau Gode well into the 1800s). In some areas - as is christian custom - she was substituted by Saint Lucia. Even the Buddha was turned into a christian saint (the legend of Barlaam and Josaphat). Syncretism is real! That's just the nature of religion.
@mio3563
@mio3563 3 жыл бұрын
Happy and blessed Easter to all of you
@carbon273
@carbon273 4 жыл бұрын
Surprised to see 50/50 like dislike ratio. As a Christian, I completely forgot that the Easter bunny was a thing. I celebrate the day that Christ was resurrected. I’m sure many Christians are the same.
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 4 жыл бұрын
That is all they can do because they can’t debunk the video
@carbon273
@carbon273 4 жыл бұрын
InspiringPhilosophy Can you do a video on Hanukkah and how Jesus partook in a holiday that’s not declared in the Protestant bible?
@SwitchbackCh
@SwitchbackCh 6 жыл бұрын
Read through the comments section and oh boy, if nothing else, I admire you for your intense fortitude in dealing with all these commenters who seem to want nothing else but to bicker with you and not consider all sides of an argument. I would argue that this divisive behavior can be in some ways worse. Observing a holiday can be stopped if one is educated, but a mind that's quick to find fault and accuse is more stubborn to change. I myself don't celebrate anything in particular, but the info in this video has been helpful. Thanks.
@carlogeorge2349
@carlogeorge2349 Жыл бұрын
Acts 17:2...Paul reasoned with people about scripture as was his custom...if you put things out like videos...you should expect criticism...thats why there are apologetics...we should reason these things to find the Truth nd Easter is Not Biblical period!!
@JRTjr01
@JRTjr01 4 жыл бұрын
From reading through the comments, I see that most people completely missed the point of the video. The point of the video is not to prove that Easter is a Christian Holiday! It's to show that it doesn't correspond with any pagan holidays! (Which is the charge that many have lodged against the holiday! )
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 4 жыл бұрын
Most people would rather believe a lie.
@JRTjr01
@JRTjr01 4 жыл бұрын
@Ini Iyahdub You only prove IP's point: "Most people would rather believe a lie" Please, show me, if you can, were, in the New or Old Testament that it says that believers, or Jews, can only do things that are written down in the Scriptures!!
@JRTjr01
@JRTjr01 4 жыл бұрын
@Ini Iyahdub Great! Post a rebuttal video and give your evidence!!!! Without evidence you're just blowing smoke!
@daddada2984
@daddada2984 3 жыл бұрын
If its not pagan? What it is? Just a tradition on men?
@eskimojewelz
@eskimojewelz 3 жыл бұрын
Clearly misleading, ya need to sharpen your minds
@michaelk4740
@michaelk4740 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it is. The word Easter itself comes from the Saxon's pagan Goddess of spring and fertility- Eostre
@crossbearer6453
@crossbearer6453 2 жыл бұрын
Did u watch the video???
@michaelk4740
@michaelk4740 2 жыл бұрын
@@crossbearer6453 Yeah I did. This dude's entire argument relies on "there's no written proof of it". The pagans didn't have writing, so how is there supposed to be any kind of written record. In fact, the church during that time would do it's best to destroy any evidence linking Christian holidays to paganism. They detested paganism, they burnt people alive for worshipping the old gods. How do you get people to forget their history and culture? By putting the fear of God into them, and destroying any links to their past for future generations. He acknowledges: yes, the pagans did have a celebration after the first full moon of the spring equinox. Yes, they did have spring and/or fertility Goddesses who's name sounded like Easter. Then goes on to say: no way could they be related though because there's no written evidence. 🤦🏻‍♂️ Also, anyone who starts off a discussion with- "our lord and savior, Jesus Christ" is right off the bat showing that they're coming into the conversation with huge religious bias
@crossbearer6453
@crossbearer6453 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelk4740 the pagans had writing Pagans also burned and killed early Christians. Atheist and non-Christians with their own biases also wrote books to spread lies about Christianity. What’s wrong with a Christian looking for the truth and spreading the truth. And if we look to history pagans weren’t converted by the sword (at least to Christianity) Were some forced ,yes( but it’s not Biblical as Christianity is to propose not impose). And u speak as if the pagans were an innocent people The point stands that Easter and Christmas are not pagan due to the points illustrated in this video and his other videos. Just as 4th of July is not pagan as it is celebrated in the birth month of Julius Caesar Which is is basically the sum of the arguments leveled against Easter and Christmas celebrations
@michaelk4740
@michaelk4740 2 жыл бұрын
@@crossbearer6453 your very first point is incorrect. No, the pagans didn't have writing. You ask- what's the problem with a Christian spreading truth- the problem is what you Christians call "truth" is often nothing more than your own Dogma. Christianity was in fact spread by the sword. It's a historical fact. Look at the Spanish inquisition for example. After the Christian reconquest of the Iberian Peninsula, any Muslims in Spain who were found to still be practicing Islam were killed and tortured. Same goes with the Native Americans of Mexico. It was the threat of violence and death that made the people of the past change their ways and become Christian. The Christmas tree is a pagan tradition as well. The celebration of Christmas and Easter were pagan celebrations for the winter and spring equinoxes. That's another one of the ways how they got pagans go convert to Christianity- they took pagan holidays and celebrations and Christianitized them. That way people could still have their celebrations, they were just turned into Christian celebrations.
@crossbearer6453
@crossbearer6453 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelk4740 so what do u describe as writing. ( just English ??) they had symbols and so on. Obviously you also have a bias. The persecution of non-Christians u speak of came about centuries after Christianity had a foot hold on the West And once again the main ploy for conversion was not with violence The religion that perpetuated that and that’s how come it got to Spain (so they did the inquisition to reclaim their land) is Islam. Why not speak on their centuries of conquest where people actually got converted by the sword and they have actual pagan influences ( the Kaaba) Humble yourself and look to history wholistically and realize that the Christian and also non-Christian historians are right. Is u still disagree would u at East acknowledge that pagans were not perfect as popular culture seem to want to push them as ??? And many non-Christian sources also have biases and so will spread lies??? As for the native Americans and Mexicans that was a aristocratic/government run ploy to siege their land and its riches. Is that the aim of Christianity???
@amcall
@amcall 2 жыл бұрын
Saying "there is no evidence" repeatedly doesn't make it true.
@gabrielle-d1b
@gabrielle-d1b 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@albertohernandez8721
@albertohernandez8721 2 жыл бұрын
But he's right though
@redbad2652
@redbad2652 3 жыл бұрын
I love how one source isn’t enough for IP to be convinced of Eostre, but one source is plenty for belief in a resurrection.
@DANtheMANofSIPA
@DANtheMANofSIPA 3 жыл бұрын
You must not have watched his videos on the resurrection, he cited many sources from Josephus to other historical sources, to the martyrdom of the apostles, to each if the Gospels, etc.
@redbad2652
@redbad2652 3 жыл бұрын
@@DANtheMANofSIPA I assure you that I have looked into every available scrap of evidence for the resurrection and there are NO first hand accounts of it. It is exactly on par with Bede’s evidence.
@liberval9425
@liberval9425 3 жыл бұрын
@@DANtheMANofSIPA Keep in mind that eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable. Even if there were a thousand contemporaneous sources for the resurrection, that wouldn't be evidence it actually happened, anymore than a thousand sources for the miracles of Buddha or Muhammad, or modern alien abduction stories mean they actually happened.
@DANtheMANofSIPA
@DANtheMANofSIPA 3 жыл бұрын
@@liberval9425 Do you want video evidence of an event in 30 AD?
@liberval9425
@liberval9425 3 жыл бұрын
@@DANtheMANofSIPA Ideally yes, because that would be good evidence. The question is - why did god choose to make the event happen in 30 AD? A purported event is not made more believable because it happened in the bronze age when almost nobody could read or write. That's god's fault for making it unprovable, not mine for disbelieving it!
@os4300
@os4300 7 жыл бұрын
A question; if scholars don't think eostre/ostara was real, then where did the month name "Eosturmonath" come from? I assume the month name came from the goddess name, like so many of our months.
@SuperOkfine
@SuperOkfine 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, but I think his point was that the name doesn't indicate that the holiday started out as pagan. It indicates the month in which it was celebrated. Therefore it is a valid point for this discussion.
@ForOdinAndAsgard
@ForOdinAndAsgard 7 жыл бұрын
Eostre is Old English for the Germanic Ostara which literally means 'altar in the east'. An 'ara' is an altar and 'ost' I do not really need to explain I presume. (Believe it or not but there is a star constellation with the same name on the southern hemi, Ara ergo 'the altar', Right ascension 16h 34m 16.9s/18h 10m 41.3s, Declination -45.486°/-67.690°). There is no deity known as Ostara. Ostara is the word for the celebrations. Its connected deity is Freya (Vrouwe Holle). Bede was pulling things out of his X-tian arse.
@Revelation18-4
@Revelation18-4 5 жыл бұрын
@@SuperOkfine It did start out as pagan, because pagans ran the world.
@bethelshiloh
@bethelshiloh 7 жыл бұрын
Yeshua & the resurrection are correct. The only time KJV uses Easter is a mistranslation of Passover. No, sir. You are wrong. We are to remember Passover & the Lamb, not Easter & the bunny.
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 7 жыл бұрын
We don't have remember either (Col 2:17-18).
@Revelation18-4
@Revelation18-4 5 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. Easter is pagan to the hilt.
@ethandumarce8135
@ethandumarce8135 2 жыл бұрын
I don't celebrate Easter. I couldn't care less if it's pagan. Is there a passage in the Christian bible that commands humans to observe Easter? How is painting eggs, hiding them and lieing to children that a bunny left them behind worship of the Christian God? If anything, this teaches children that lieing is ok as long as it is in the name of a good time.
@kenparsons6202
@kenparsons6202 6 жыл бұрын
Well I'll take my chance that it's pagen anything that has anything to do with Catholic I'll choose truth in the word of God
@shadoslacker7409
@shadoslacker7409 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. I'd always assumed the Oestre explanation was correct, and this video led me to look into that. But I think it goes too far. It's true that Bede's is the only mention of Oestre anywhere, but it's not true that this means there was no Oestre, and as far as I can tell it's not true that "most scholars" think Bede made Oestre up or was mistaken. The video refers to Frank Stenton and Carole Cusack around the 2 minute mark - neither of these go so far as to say this, though they acknowledge that some scholars do. I think it would be fair to say that Oestre being a pagan goddess after whom a month was named is questionable or uncertain, but no more than that. As so often in questions of history, I think we can really only say "probably" or "probably not" on this one, and it seems like a judgement call to me.
@amuthi1
@amuthi1 2 жыл бұрын
First lie in this "christian video" concerning the mentioning of eoastra is not mentioning archeological proof. Citation from Wiki on Eostre: "In 1958, over 150 Romano-Germanic votive inscriptions to the matronae Austriahenae, a triad of goddesses, were discovered near Morken-Harff, Germany. Most of these inscriptions are in an incomplete state, yet many are at least reasonably legible. Some of these inscriptions refer to the Austriates, evidently the name of a social group.[18] The name of these goddesses certainly derives from the root austri-, which, if Germanic, would be cognate with the Old English Eostre. But the goddesses might equally be entirely independent.[19]"
@TheIconodule
@TheIconodule 7 жыл бұрын
What I think might be really beneficial is for the anti Easter crowd to examine the content of the services in historic Easter Liturgies rather than focusing on minor elements. Eggs, the word Easter, bunnies, are not the core of the feast and never have been, rather it has always been focused on Christ. I would encourage anti Easter folks to explore the Orthodox, Catholic and other liturgies of those churches which have Easter services or a ecclesiastical calendar which focuses on lent and Pascha(Easter).
@Revelation18-4
@Revelation18-4 5 жыл бұрын
It is not a holy day. It is s celebration of the spring equinox, full of paganry.
@samlatin8933
@samlatin8933 2 жыл бұрын
Passover>Easter
@bailujen8052
@bailujen8052 Жыл бұрын
They would claim God/Yahweh/Jehovah is Zeus
@scented-leafpelargonium3366
@scented-leafpelargonium3366 Жыл бұрын
It's not an "anti-holiday crowd" but rather discerning which "holy days" and their terminology is Biblical and ordained by God and Yeshua (later re-named "Jesus" by the Gentiles) and which traditions and feast days are man-made with no Biblical or spiritual warrant to observe them.
@elifriedman8812
@elifriedman8812 Жыл бұрын
For both Christmas and Easter, certain traditions not directly associated with the Bible or the original festivals did likely come in some way from pagan sources either directly or indirectly. This does not however mean that the festival or celebration itself is pagan or that those things automatically corrupt or make it pagan.
@minihooperprod.8332
@minihooperprod.8332 Жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ is savior
@onionslayer557
@onionslayer557 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a pagan. and far as I know and believe it's about the whole nature. you celebrate every new season who is coming. not only "easter" and "jule". you celebrate also the circle of life in nature. Spring that stands for everything that comes alive again, summer is partly for the purification process and cleansing and we celebrate midsummer still in countries such as Sweden and Norway o Finland celebrate very seriously and there is very old belief in magic and portial partners in dreams and rituals , Autumn is about balance before it goes to sleep and goes over and life tips again, winter waiting for the returning sun and we will keep our hearts warm with love and joy. i'ts more about worshiping the nature. the "gods" its more like symbols for etch season. at liest today... i did't live in that time when this was created so i can't say to 100% how it was only how it is today and what i learned in class. but all i know is, they wanted to convert the Scandinavian pagan folks to Christians. and the best way to do that was to push Christian message on there already celebrating holidays. and they started to create something like "hell" to easier control and make people afraid of the after death. (Which is a lie) but whatever you believe its your own business. and don't force it on other people. btw the "easterbunny" teori its kinda bull... here i live we call it "påskharen" and are in translation "easterHARE"
@Hibernial
@Hibernial 3 жыл бұрын
So, in a strict manner modern day easter is pagan, just in a very removed sense. There are pagan roots (which some christians may make inaccurate direct claims of), but they’ve become secularized. The same can be said of christian belief being secularized into the holiday’s celebration itself. It’s very commercialized, which I doubt is to the direction or purpose of what Christian beliefs all their own point to: I say that as a Christian myself. The expressly anti-pagan social zealot type of christian perhaps holds to a point within a very broad sense, since they’re often looking at spiritual beliefs throughout history that share some baseline or superficial similarities. But any comparison or identification with symbolic meanings can’t be taken too literally as to discount detailed differences of separate belief systems. Drawing up something of Babylonian belief which may or may not exist won’t really have direct ties in anyway into a pagan culture in its own period of history. What I think is happening with many anti-pagan christians (ironically) is that they’re following the lead and tutelage of new-agers who draw together broad conclusions too tightly. So in some sense, it’s the new agers rather than the christians themselves who more ardently make the case. What does take me aback really is the modern secularization of both pagan ideas and christian ideas respectively into festivities that mix the two together, while new age teaching with spiritually inclusive themes seems to be on its own rise as it permeates through christian and non-christian theist circles.
@prosperotempest8606
@prosperotempest8606 3 жыл бұрын
This is great. The pagan calls the Easter Bunny "påskharen," which is obviously based on the words "Passover rabbit," meanwhile many Christians can't figure out that we can take words too (I was going to say "steal words," but we don't have to steal them, because our lord owns everything!) Easter is as Christian a holiday as you make it. If Easter is about rabbits and jelly beans and fertility and spring, you are a pagan, on the other hand if Easter is about our risen Lord, well then it is a Christian holiday no matter what word your language uses to identify it.
@davidnewhart2533
@davidnewhart2533 2 жыл бұрын
Hell was not created by Christians to scare people to join them. That is literally the biggest bogus lie told by mankind. Jesus literally preached about Hell throughout His entire ministry.
@jigglybandito9505
@jigglybandito9505 Жыл бұрын
Oh so a pagan technically celebrates Easter ? But some how Easter in Christianity isn’t pagan ?
@tommyverstraete5678
@tommyverstraete5678 Жыл бұрын
What a great comment! Thank you for sharing your modern pagan traditions. 😊
@rbsr037
@rbsr037 5 ай бұрын
Saying that July has nothing to do with the holiday makes no sense, 4th of July was the day that independence was obtained for the US. It had all to do with that because it was the date it occurred.
@cypherpunk12
@cypherpunk12 7 жыл бұрын
You missed a huge point, Easter date changes every year to suit the Pagan northern hemisphere spring solstice and full moon. Now when someone dies who is famous the date does not change does it?
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 7 жыл бұрын
Actually it changes to match the lunar calendar as that is what the Jews used to mark the beginning of passover.
@j.k.4479
@j.k.4479 6 ай бұрын
Easter/Pascha is a celebration of the resurrection of Jesus not the death of.
@cypherpunk12
@cypherpunk12 6 ай бұрын
@@j.k.4479 it still changes every year.
@microcosm1957
@microcosm1957 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you think "pagan worship ended in 1000 AD" I'll let all the pagans I know that their practice is actually dead 😂😂😂 what reference can you provide for that?
@Revelation18-4
@Revelation18-4 5 жыл бұрын
Pagan worship did not end. It still goes on to this very day. Hollywood idols and musicians, sports figures, dead saints which is necromancy. I could go on.
@microcosm1957
@microcosm1957 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's so obviously pagan, the whole church narrative and christology is unbelievably unbiblical. The sun "dies and is reborn" at the winter equinox, the spring brings resurrection of life, the fall is a time of death and darkness. So you get the holidays of the pagan mythology interposed on a Jewish religious faction.
@michaeldiaz3949
@michaeldiaz3949 5 жыл бұрын
@@microcosm1957 woohoo....never saw it that way!! But hey, for them, they got the fall one right...it will be dark for them in those days. May ha mashiaj find us walking in Torah in those days!!
@Revelation18-4
@Revelation18-4 5 жыл бұрын
@VideoAudioDisco09 Rome/ Vatican church is full of narcissists! True Christian's aren't narcissists. You are highly mistaken. And what's with this tribal thing?
@Revelation18-4
@Revelation18-4 5 жыл бұрын
@VideoAudioDisco09 You are confused. Satan has a grip on you. Hope you find your way soon before Christ returns. God bless!
@helenellsworth9556
@helenellsworth9556 5 жыл бұрын
The Pesach is the Hebrew word for Pasha, there is no original Hebrew word for Passover! The only Bible that speaks of Easter is Acts 12:4 but, it's a gross misinterpretation, in man's behalf. Every other Bible says correctly, Passover. Easter is a pagan tradition
@snuggleb100
@snuggleb100 5 жыл бұрын
You are correct Helen this information is a gross misinformation. Check out “getridofeaster” channel he is very thorough with plenty of evidence to back up why Easter is pagan. Our apostles practiced Passover not Easter. We should be doing the same thing. But the Catholic Church christianized Easter n here we are today. God bless
@hesedagape6122
@hesedagape6122 5 жыл бұрын
Only English and Germanics call it Easter so who cares. Easter is the Christian Passover. Pesach or Pascha. If you actually attended a Liturgical Church like Eastern Orthodox, Roman Catholic Church or Anglican you will understand that clearly. Rather unfortunate some internet propagandists have gotten it into your head. Easter is Passover in Church. Outside the Church a lot of secular attachments may be added on but so it is with every religious holiday. You can check with Jews and Muslims. Their holidays are only holy days in the worship community. Everyone else takes them as fun days.
@cforse1
@cforse1 5 жыл бұрын
In Acts 12:4 Easter is speaking of the pagan holiday and not the Passover. When read in context it begins by saying “then were the days of unleavened bread” the days of unleavened bread come after the Passover. See Lev.23:5,6 Also why would Herod wait till after “Passover” to kill Peter. Which we already have read Passover was finished then were the days of unleavened bread? He waited after EASTER to bring Peter before the people.
@hesedagape6122
@hesedagape6122 5 жыл бұрын
@@cforse1 liars are in danger of hellfire. Take your lies elsewhere. The calendar alignment of 2017 is more than enough proof
@yeshuaisisaiah9650
@yeshuaisisaiah9650 3 жыл бұрын
“Do not worship the LORD your God in the way these pagan peoples worship their gods." Deuteronomy 12:4 What accord has Christ with Belial (eostre) Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said, “I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will welcome you, and I will be a father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to me, says the Lord Almighty.” 2Corinthians 6:15-18 But then, indeed, when you did not know God, you served those which by nature are not gods. But now after you have known God, or rather are known by God, how is it that you turn again to the weak and beggarly elements, to which you desire again to be in bondage? You observe days and months and seasons and years. Galatians 4:8-10 Leviticus 23:2of ‘The feasts of the Lord, which you shall proclaim to be (A)holy convocations, these are MY FEASTS." Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, (Y)till heaven and earth pass away, one [b]jot or one [c]tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 (Z)Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." -JESUS Matthew 5:17-19 Passover = JESUS Crucified Unleavened Bread = JESUS buried First Fruits= JESUS Resurrected Shavuot (Greek-Pentacost) New Covenant power- HOLY SPIRIT YET TO BE FULFILLED Feast of Trumpets= See Revelation, HE'S coming back Day of Atonement = Great White Throne Judgment and Judgment on earth's wicked Feast of Tabernacles = JESUS Rules and Dwells with us GOD'S WORD has spoken Opinion has no more validation
@Kuudere-Kun
@Kuudere-Kun 6 жыл бұрын
I wish yo'd talked about the Roasted Egg that became part of the Passover Sedar in Rabbinic Judaism. I don't know how far it goes back but it'd be interesting if it predates the Earliest Easter Egg reference. One could also compare the Easter Egg hunt to the Passover Tradition of kids looking for.... I forget what it was exactly. There are also Pagan example of Lions being associated with Royalty, which is more direct to the Jesus as a Lion issue.
@Tamara-yf7zt
@Tamara-yf7zt 5 жыл бұрын
"come out if "HER" MY People"! Idol "Mary"worship... You shall see!
@pryzmcat
@pryzmcat 5 жыл бұрын
I think you've spent a lot of time "Most High".
@corywiedenbeck1562
@corywiedenbeck1562 5 жыл бұрын
She is right
@Lionimia
@Lionimia 5 жыл бұрын
Her = Mystery Babylon = Babylonian Talmudic Paganism = Modern Judaism
@olandofuller5588
@olandofuller5588 6 жыл бұрын
Same with the cross. Buried Nimrod had them as ear rings and that was what they sacrifice people on. God did not leave that anywhere in the bible as a symbol for us to use.
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 6 жыл бұрын
What ancient sources report this?
@gayletodd1598
@gayletodd1598 5 ай бұрын
The cross is also a symbol of initiates into secret orders. The initiate would carry his cross to a place of the skull and place it in a niche before hanging himself on it. I’m just gonna leave it there. Y’all need to do some research and read more and talk less
@turbotimthree
@turbotimthree 6 жыл бұрын
Then why do we call it Easter? Easter is accepted by the mainstream in 2018 and that should send up red flags.
@maximiusvernandi2858
@maximiusvernandi2858 2 жыл бұрын
I‘m from Germany and we actually still have an easter hare in our Tradition. God bless you brother 🙏🏻
@alonzoford4367
@alonzoford4367 5 жыл бұрын
Easter is the Sunday after the full moon after the spring equinox.. that's why it changes so often... Easter and Passover are @ different times
@hesedagape6122
@hesedagape6122 5 жыл бұрын
You mean the Jewish Passover and the Christian Passover are at different times. There are actually four calendars. The ancient Jewish Lunar Calendar, the Constantine Christian Luni-solar Calendar, the Antiquity Jewish Luni-solar Calendar, and the Western Rite Luni-solar Calendar used in the determine of Passover. The first was discarded by the Christians first. Even though both Christians and Jews had used it for a long time simply because it was too different from the Julian Solar Calendar in secular use. Later the Jews saw the same problem and tried to rectify that. In later years the Roman Catholic Pope also modified the Julian Solar Calendar in for greater accuracy given the Western Rite Luni-solar Calendar. In 2017 the 3 Luni-solar Ritual Calendars (Constantine, Jewish, and Western Rite) aligned as they do several times throughout the years. So now Easter/Passover is only in Spring. Unlike on the lunar calendar when it can even be twice in a year. When the 3 Calendars align it becomes very interesting as Pesach becomes Holy Wednesday, Good Friday looks more likely to have been Maundy Thursday, etc. Palm Sunday then becomes Palm Friday. So claims that the Easter/Christian Passover is very different from the Jewish Passover is false. Eastern Rite Christians, Western Rite Christians and Jews use different calendars but in some years these calendars align. It is high time we all sit down to accept one but otherwise the most accurate is the Western Rite Calendar which uses the Gregorian Calendar
@cyberpleb2472
@cyberpleb2472 4 жыл бұрын
@@hesedagape6122 Hmmm, you would have thought God would have given his followers the correct calendar.
@hesedagape6122
@hesedagape6122 4 жыл бұрын
@@cyberpleb2472 give unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto Elohim what is Elohim's. A calendar has nothing to do with God who doesn't live in chronological time.
@cyberpleb2472
@cyberpleb2472 4 жыл бұрын
@@hesedagape6122 The so-called word of God found in the Bible is fundamentally flawed. This is, of course, because it is the word of man. God has nothing to do with reality.
@hesedagape6122
@hesedagape6122 4 жыл бұрын
@@cyberpleb2472 if it wasn't it would be God Himself and we won't need faith. The Bible doesn't claim perfection. It demands faith.
@NubianX1963
@NubianX1963 5 жыл бұрын
Easter is pagan Give it Up. Jesus said if you love me keep my commandments, to do communion, to baptize. Baptism represents Jesus's death, burial, and resurrection. Not one command to keep a day holy for his resurrection.
@Operera3414
@Operera3414 4 жыл бұрын
Well said. God bless u
@ArcanisUltra
@ArcanisUltra 5 ай бұрын
Except it's fact that the name "Easter" is derived from the Anglo-Saxon Goddess Eostre.
@BongBing11
@BongBing11 5 ай бұрын
You missed a step. It's named after a month, Eostremonath.
@VoodooChild333
@VoodooChild333 5 ай бұрын
Eostre is purely a creation of the 8th century monk Bede, Eosturmonath literally just translates to month of the rising sun in reference to the suns rising arc during the early summer months.
@jad6126
@jad6126 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent content! Thank you. He is risen. And that is what we celebrate.
@3IN1SDG
@3IN1SDG Жыл бұрын
How is this excellent? Your own comment is contradictory. He keeps saying he's not sure. Well, I'm sure of this. It's RIDICULOUS to mix the Resurrection with bunny rabbits and eggs! You can paint eggs and talk about rabbits all you want, not on Ressurection Sunday, completely taking the focus away from Christ which is exactly what has happen and what idt does. You put man's philosophy over any sense of biblical discernment.
@jad6126
@jad6126 Жыл бұрын
@@3IN1SDG Did you watch the whole video? Please at least watch from 7:30 till the end. Its not contradictory, he clearly shows how there is no proof that the modern Easter celebration comes from pagan roots. Just because we paint eggs and eat some chocolate bunnies, does not mean we deny Christ. You sound a little too legalistic. Maybe you should have some chocolate and relax a little.
@3IN1SDG
@3IN1SDG Жыл бұрын
@@jad6126 I did watch the whole video. And he did not show that it isn't pagan. He's not sure. And you obviously didn't read my entire comment. I don't care if its roots are pagan or not. What in the world does bunnies and eggs have to do with the Resurrection of Christ? NOTHING! You will be ashamed when God asks why you were celebrating such nonsense ON THE SAME DAY OF HIS SON'S RESURRECTION. That's not legalism on my part but it is antinomianism on your part. And let me add that the comparison to the Lion of Judah was so ridiculous and a fallacy itself. The Lion of Judah is given IN SCRIPTURE which is written by God. Bunnies and eggs are not and have ZERO association with scripture but more IMPORTANTLY (as I already stated) NOTHING to do with His Resurrection.
@jad6126
@jad6126 Жыл бұрын
@@3IN1SDG You have no idea how I celebrate Easter. You are making assumptions and judging me, which is wrong to do. I think this is the part where we agree to disagree since I clearly wont change your mind and you certainly wont change mine.
@3IN1SDG
@3IN1SDG Жыл бұрын
@@jad6126 You don't know how to critically think and on top are being hypocritical. I INITIALLY judged your COMMENT because you said you celebrate His RESURRECTION but said "excellent video" which is promoting the celebration of bunnies and eggs ON THE DAY OF HIS RESURRECTION. I said nothing about how YOU CELEBRATE His Resurrection. YOU IMPROPERLY JUDGED ME by calling me legalistic. You must be feeling some guilt, to now make this about how YOU celebrate, which I never commented on since you said you celebrated His resurrection on your initial comment. But if you ALSO want to promote celebrating bunnies and eggs on the SAME DAY as His Resurrection, go right ahead. You can answer to God why you were promoting something that DETRACTS from the Resurrection of His Son. Before you call someone legalistic learn how to properly use the term and how to critically think. Good day.
@jaicilfrancis8444
@jaicilfrancis8444 4 жыл бұрын
You make real sense.. I been struggling with all these conspiracy theories and association fallacies... But eventually I understood that itz all about the genuine love for our saviour Jesus Christ which builds stronger faith for our salvation, rather to waste time on useless arguments... thank you for your help. I appreciate your time and energy.
@aapp953
@aapp953 5 жыл бұрын
Well traditionally Easter always used the same pattern of colors coincidentally the same ones you see at baby showers. Remember Pauls concern over christians being beguiled by philosophy.
@nehemiahsback3895
@nehemiahsback3895 7 жыл бұрын
I often say that it's no use talking to someone about why they shouldn't be keeping Christmas and Easter, when they're not even keeping the very TEN Commandments! (You have to learn to crawl, before you can walk.) So, with that being said, can I assume that IP doesn't teach obedience to the Sabbath? Unfortunately, I suspect that's the case...
@RevZombagger
@RevZombagger 7 жыл бұрын
With regard to the Easter egg, don't forget about how important a hard boiled egg is to the Passover. The hard boiled egg has been used for thousands of years as part of the Sedar meal to represent the sacrifice of atonement, some groups even go so far as to paint a black dot onto the egg representative of the sins of the people being put upon it like the goat from Leviticus 16. This is what informs the process of dying the egg. Our sins have been blotted out by Christ, therefore it makes sense to dye the egg so that the blackness of sin is not evident. Much like the Sedar evolved following the destruction of the temple (where instead of a lamb, now the afikomen is used), it made sense to update the Passover with Christ's revelation.
@ghostlylover99123
@ghostlylover99123 7 жыл бұрын
Zombagger correct!
@micvili7527
@micvili7527 5 жыл бұрын
thats rabinc traditions which means it aint biblical. why would anyone want to trade pagan practices for Talmudic pagan traditions ?
@michaeldiaz3949
@michaeldiaz3949 5 жыл бұрын
Well if an egg is ......white= pure= our robes, the color white over and over again represents purity. Why dye it any color....???? Its already white....? Makes no sense
@reflectionsinthebible3579
@reflectionsinthebible3579 3 жыл бұрын
Where in the Bible does it say they sacrificed eggs?
@codyd.18
@codyd.18 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting video--a reminder of how so much old European history, myth, and tradition was virtually eradicated by the early Church. The claim of association fallacy seems to ignore the tactic of the early Church to replace or associate existing pagan traditions with Christian ones as a means of conversion--also, the rantings of youtubers feels like low-hanging fruit. If we take this tactic into consideration, it seems logical that association would be one of the few remaining connections we can identify, though of course we lack proof of that.
@peterjongsma2754
@peterjongsma2754 5 жыл бұрын
I think it was Pope Gregory the Great who said missionaries should Christianise pagan customs. I agree with the Pope. So Christmas had non Biblical elements but who cares?
@snuggleb100
@snuggleb100 5 жыл бұрын
Peter Jongsma unfortunately the pope is not God n God warned us not to practice pagan traditions or idolatry. It’s what God’s word says not some guy’s word. And God warned the Israelites not to practice pagan worship or idolatry n we are to do the same.
@toniprobst1036
@toniprobst1036 2 жыл бұрын
Easter is pagan, to replace the Pesach, as Deuteronomy 13, changing His feast days, you also do not get three days and three nights from easter, the math does not line up. but our justification of pagan holidays also makes you a false teacher, per Revelations 2:2. with Deuteronomy 13 and 18, He says in verse 16 of chapter 18 that He will use false prophets to 'prove', aka test, them, and well, you guys, have failed the test.
@sjappiyah4071
@sjappiyah4071 5 жыл бұрын
I’m disappointed that most of the stupid comments here are from Christian fundies and not Atheists 🤦🏿‍♂️. Great video man, Ignore the idiocy....
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 5 жыл бұрын
I do, it is pretty pathetic.
@CanadianOrth
@CanadianOrth 7 жыл бұрын
IP, heh....it's pronounced Paska.
@d_fendr6222
@d_fendr6222 7 жыл бұрын
+Skeptical Christian Heh, I noticed that too. I guess it's just a tomato - tamato kind of thing.
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 7 жыл бұрын
I've heard it both ways.
@michaelturnage3395
@michaelturnage3395 3 жыл бұрын
Paskha, actually. It's a heth.
@BigYehudah
@BigYehudah Жыл бұрын
Thank you I greatly appreciate this video. A friend of mine from church a week or brother is struggling with this matter and I think this will help him so thank you for making this video. Grace and peace.
@meandykbishop8603
@meandykbishop8603 5 ай бұрын
Apparently you do not know much about the 4th of July, it is a specific date, commemorating the exact date the declaration of independence was signed. On July 4th. So it indeed has every reason to be celebrated on that specific date. So if you got that wrong by assumption, how am I to know that you are not assuming any other facts in this video about Fertility, bunnies, eggs and Easter itself?
@michielvdvlies3315
@michielvdvlies3315 3 жыл бұрын
im from the Netherlands we call easter Pasen sounds similar to pesach ;-) anti-holyday crowd have paganism in their heart otherwise they wouldnt make those foolish links
@bryansphere6359
@bryansphere6359 3 жыл бұрын
Michael, IP, the groundhog @ the 8:10 mark was completely hysterical! I wasn’t expecting it.
@MemoryLane77852
@MemoryLane77852 6 жыл бұрын
This is what I call Damage Control.
@HelloThere-xx1ct
@HelloThere-xx1ct 3 жыл бұрын
The naming of the celebration as “Easter” seems to go back to the name of a pre-Christian goddess in England, Eostre, who was celebrated at beginning of spring. The only reference to this goddess comes from the writings of the Venerable Bede, a British monk who lived in the late seventh and early eighth century. As religious studies scholar Bruce Forbes summarizes: “Bede wrote that the month in which English Christians were celebrating the resurrection of Jesus had been called Eosturmonath in Old English, referring to a goddess named Eostre. And even though Christians had begun affirming the Christian meaning of the celebration, they continued to use the name of the goddess to designate the season.” Bede was so influential for later Christians that the name stuck, and hence Easter remains the name by which the English, Germans and Americans refer to the festival of Jesus’ resurrection.
@jacobcantrell82
@jacobcantrell82 2 жыл бұрын
Except that only applies to Germanic languages.
@doxholiday1372
@doxholiday1372 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobcantrell82 None of these conspiracy theorists think about that. We know for s fact that the rest of Christendom calls it Pascha, so we're supposed to believe that Christians in the west chose to use the name of a goddess instead of calling it Pascha, or transliterating it? A clear violation of the 1ST Commandment? And a perfect excuse for the non Christians of the land to mock and shame them? Pfft
@amuthi1
@amuthi1 2 жыл бұрын
First lie in this "christian video" isnotmentioning the archeological proofs. Citation from Wiki on Eostre: "In 1958, over 150 Romano-Germanic votive inscriptions to the matronae Austriahenae, a triad of goddesses, were discovered near Morken-Harff, Germany. Most of these inscriptions are in an incomplete state, yet many are at least reasonably legible. Some of these inscriptions refer to the Austriates, evidently the name of a social group.[18] The name of these goddesses certainly derives from the root austri-, which, if Germanic, would be cognate with the Old English Eostre. But the goddesses might equally be entirely independent.[19]"
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