Eastern and Western lenses to Analytic Idealism with Bernardo Kastrup and Swami Sarvapriyananda

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In Philosophy Babble - The Great Minds Series
In this instalment; We have two distinguish speakers, Resident Swami and head off the Vedanta Society of New York, Swami Sarvapriyananda. Alongside him, we have the highly accomplished Philosopher, Author and Scientist Dr Bernardo Kastrup.
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Swami Sarvapriyananda's
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channel - / @vedantany
Bernardo Kastrup's
website - www.bernardokastrup.com
channel - / @bernardokastrup
This conversation was recorded during a live session on Clubhouse @philosophybabble Swami Sarvapriyananda and Bernardo Kastrup conducted a profound and illuminating exchange on their perspectives surrounding life and existence. The discussion involved a deep exploration of various eastern and western philosophical schools of thought. The captivating discourse held the room in complete attention, with only a handful of questions punctuating the enlightening conversation. If you want to stay updated on upcoming live sessions on Clubhouse, please subscribe to the channel. And, don't forget to share, mention, and like!
Topic of discussion : Perspectives on life and Existence
1. Nature of Consciousness
2. Mind and Body problem
3. Self and the world
Summary:
This dialogue between philosopher Bernardo Kastrup and Swami Sarvapriyananda is a rich exploration of Advaita Vedanta, a non-dualistic Hindu philosophy, and consciousness. Bernardo commence with the three fundamental philosophical questions, around the nature of reality, self, and knowledge. Kastrup addresses accusations of plagiarizing from the Upanishads, leading to a discussion contrasting Western and Eastern philosophical approaches. The conversation dives into non-dualism, the "nothingness", and the hard problem of consciousness. Key concepts of Advaita Vedanta, such as Ananda (bliss), Shunyata (void), and the experience of Samadhi, are examined in depth. They also broach the existential perspective of life as a "cosmic error," countering it with Jivanmukti, enlightenment while living. They tackle idealist interpretations of consciousness, the concept of God in Hinduism, and the difference between Samadhi and sleep. The discussion concludes with an exploration between memory, consciousness, the mind-body problem, and the distinction between the personal and universal mind. Throughout, delightful blending of Eastern and Western philosophical perspectives.
Timecodes
00:00 - Intro
02:41 - Simplify Advaita Vendata in the shortest time ever!!
06:58 - 3 biggest questions in philosophy!
21:42 - Bernardo was accused of plagiarism on Upanishad
29:40 - Bernardo on Western’s mind
40:24 - Swami Ji on “Johnny Come Lately”
48:38 - Bernardo on absolute non dualism and nothingness
56:28 - Bernardo on the hard problem of consciousness
01:02:52 - Bernardo’s question on BLISS
01:02:08 - Swami Ji in depth explanation of BLISS
01:08:24 - Bernardo’s question on VOID
01:09:52 - Samadhi explained by Swami Ji
01:16:37 - Bernardo’s question “Life is a cosmic error”
01:18:10 - Jivanmukti enlightened while living
01:19:52 - Bindo Ji’s question on Idealism’s interpretation on CONSCIOUSNESS
01:22:42 - Swami Ji on concept of GOD and Goddesses
01:24:26 - Bindo’s question for deeper clarity on SAMADHI from Swami Ji’s understanding
01:26:36 - Swami Ji on the different between sleep state and samadhi
01:27:23 - Ary dived into deeper distinction between Emptiness and the Void
01:33:31 - Bernardo’s samadhi experienced
01:39:03 - Swami Ji advises on not chasing the experience of Samadhi
01:40:20 - Curious’s question on Memory and Problem with Consciousness as emergence while having a fan moment with Swami
01:44:27 - Bernardo illustration on truth and consciousness as emergence
01:50:17 - Swami’s on memory everywhere in technology except one thing “First person experience”
01:54:59 - Vinod’s question on how the mind cause the arm to move?
01:56:25 - Bernardo on “Your personal mind is not the universal mind at large”
01:59:42 - Eldhose’s last question.
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[@Jagombe1]

Thank you for this! I have been waiting to see Bernardo converse with the Swami for quite some time now. It was better than I had envisaged. How Bernardo's Idealism meshes in with Advaita, Buddhism and the other non dual religions, has made me understand the nature of existence better.

[@soumyapanigrahi1]

❤same here. I was also waiting for this conversation to happen for a long while🙏🏽

[@panagiotisstathis3706]

Really a great meetings. Thank you.

[@swarnavchatterjee8275]

Swami vivekananda was the first representative of the advaita vendanta philosophy to the west

[@Meditation409]

This podcast was mind blowing!! Absolutely a beautiful conversation ❤ priceless

[@lubosjanosik2219]

If I remember it correctly, it was Swami Vivekananda, who said that the whole world will wake up, when Western scientists discover and confirm the old truth of the East. It is slowly getting closer 😊

[@VedantaKesari]

Also Swami Brahmananda, the spiritual son of Ramakrishna, said that someday science will prove religion.

[@tutorialchief]

@@VedantaKesari NO ONE WAKES UP EXCEPT FOR FEW AS ALWAYS, we had billions of self proclaimed christians(messias...literal) but only a hand full if none followed and understood christ really, same with everything, people are herd animals, they follow what appears a certain way but they never have any expirience or understanding of it...

[@tutorialchief]

a bit of self confidence, dominant speech and charisma and you can lead millions of people anywhere, doesnt matter if you are a heartless lunatic

[@VedantaKesari]

Swami Vivekananda, the chief disciple and successor to Ramakrishna, said that Ramakrishna initiated a mass tidal wave of spirituality that over the centuries will bring about mass spiritual awakenings. Many people are awakening even today. Eckhart Tolle is just one of many such people. Now science, which used to be the enemy of religion, is fast becoming its friend.

[@lynlavalight]

​@tutorialchief true but what is your point?

[@eldhoselife6412]

Saviours of Humanity in the 21st century 😊

[@Beatsbeebur]

Sages * or *prophets of humanity

[@stevenmccarthy112]

Swami is an absolute treasure! This is so inspiring.

[@petershelton7367]

Swami is way cool Bernardo has brought out his genius ❤

[@kmh5197]

What I keep realizing more and more as I read, study, spend weeks in retreats, go on pilgrimages to India, etc. is how deeply conditioned I am in the materialist mindset. Recognizing that is probably the best place to start. Great discussion. Thank you.

[@daarom3472]

it's usual to believe in it or your implementation will die of starvation.

[@ashwinisarah]

I've waited so so so long for a conversation between these two incredible human beings! The next one between Donald Hoffman and Swami Sarvapriyananda please!!!

[@brianswelding]

Yesssssss!!!

[@ashrafaliullah6551]

Yes! Yes! Yes please 🙏 😊

[@philosophybabble]

Hopefully! ☺🤞🤞

[@TandinPaljor-hb5xk]

A mind cannot see and sense cannot judge.

[@Mumukshatvam]

Yess!!

[@RAIRADIO]

Advaita Vedanta is the absolutely winner that can satisfy a modern mind.

[@ankitruparel1895]

Look up Kashmir shavism and non dual Shaiva Tantra to have your mind blown once again

[@indicphilosopher8772]

​@@ankitruparel1895 Kashmir shaivism is pseudo vedanta.. It talks about vibrational consciousness, an idea that doesnot exist in vedas or bhagwat geeta.. Swamiji has talked about this

[@Gettotrade]

​@@ankitruparel1895 I come from Shiva Tantra. But Advaita is the Pinnacle of spiritualism.

[@ashokc01]

OMG swamiji explaining with astonishing clarity on advaita in such a short time and with utmost precision..naman to him💐💐💐

[@alexjan108]

When hearing this incredible bright Bernardo I get a kind of exctasy. It is mind blowing, giving so much joy. His words are coming from real understanding with such analytical beauty, so well said, so genuine. A real inspired western pandit. He and dear Sarvapriyananda are the western and eastern rays of a beautiful dawn in a greater inexpressible universal mind...Love from VIenna

[@philosophybabble]

Couldn't agree more!

[@maurylee5239]

Precision in thinking is a beautiful thing. It's still just pointers, but the best pointers result in the likelihood that experience will ensue. Both these two are great thinkers and therefore great pointers to that which their thinking points to. I love both of them. Well done!

[@CeltaNeel]

This is what the 🌎 needs. My favorite satsang by Swamiji!

[@woodcabinasmr5266]

The best meeting ever.

[@iemon7722]

Absolute banger of an episode .. I think these two should collaborate on a regular basis. The community will be immensely indebted.

[@iemon7722]

@@davidchou1675 okay bro.

[@bloodsonnet]

@@davidchou1675why don’t you make a critique?

[@suhailski]

I am really enjoying their humility. We have all our answers. Thank you.

[@nowenterpsie]

OMG! This is more valuable than mountains of gold dust. Thank you, feeling great gratitude.

[@nil0355]

Great conversation. Bernado's counter to so called "hard problem" was brilliant. The Swami made an important contribution in pointing out both the importance and limitation of mystical experiences.

[@VedantaGorilla]

Beautiful conversation ❤️🕉. Swamiji is so unassuming that his depth of understanding is easy to miss - and I had until now! 😮. Bernardo is just lovely, such a beautiful mind and more. Two things stuck out to me that I thought maybe in a different context would've been addressed more or differently. First was when Bernardo asked about bliss, and the second was his comment that he has no idea how to get back there (to his experience of the void is what he was referring to). I do think Bernardo appreciated Swamiji's answer, which was a great one, but I thought it would be good to add that bliss really is a very limited and even misleading definition of "Ananda" - and therefore not particularly helpful to someone trying to understand it as Bernardo was. Perhaps broadening the definition to "limitless fullness" or "no-second-thing-ness" is helpful IMO to point to our unimpeded nature and to convey more closely what existence / consciousnesses is "like" prior to experience. The second thing is simply that the idea of "getting back" to a certain experience is a dualistic viewpoint, whereas "you" (as swamiji said many times) are the unchanging witness of - in this case - both the one who "experienced the void" and the one who now apparently experiences something else. Swamiji did eloquently speak about extracting wisdom from experience at a different point in the conversation, just not then. Thank you to the organizers and participants for an incredible dialogue 🙏🏻❤️

[@TatTvamAsi173]

Exactly. Bliss is more like Purnata or “fullness”, according to the Jñānārṇavatantra. And bernado's "getting back" to that experience means feeling the same bodily experience that he felt during his time in that state.

[@MariaElena51185]

I fully resonate Bernardo’s feelings of wanting to ‘get back’ to the void/silent state that seems to have ‘gone away.’ Its living in this dense 3D reality that constantly poisons the body/mind daily.. the air, the ground, the water.. he did say the past is experienced now. Nothing (no thing) exists, ever actually happens. It’s the usual paradox of 3D trap here.

[@jamiealls4099]

My path to this insightful discussion was by way of TOE podcast who introduced me to Bernardo, who I discovered via Donald Hoffman. I studied Tibetan Buddhism and for some reason was uninterested in Hinduism until now. This conversation was so illuminating and rewarding. I’m very thankful to the organizers and participants. The similarities between analytic idealism and Vedanta give me hope for humanity. Western philosophy is coming around.

[@ay5810]

Me too!

[@ay5810]

Me too!

[@adamkallin5160]

I’ve listened to dozens of lectures by the Swami. They always calm me yet are still engaging.

[@chinmay1095]

I have been waiting for this interaction since the past one year when I saw Bernardo on TOE by Curt Jaimungal and his ideas seemed to resonate with advaita vedanta a lot of which I had been introduced to by Swami Sarvapriyananda. I am immensely grateful to you for this and I know it is going to be an amazing talk even before watching the video!

[@philosophybabble]

They dives deeply into both school of thoughts. Hope you enjoy it as much as we all did. Stay tune for more from both speakers.

[@MartinBeynon]

Two of my most favourite minds 😊

[@rebeckajain2316]

My thought exactly.

[@entropy608]

Hello! I'm an Advaitin. This is one of the best talks I've seen. Congrats to the organisers, Bernardo and Swamiji. I've followed Bernardo's work on analytical idealism for a while. I'm so glad to see that he's had this fantastic chat with Swami Sarvapriyananda and his appreciation of the Upanishads. I would love to hear Bernardo's view on the Upanishads not just for his own self development but also how Vedanta can add to Modern Philosophy and the way out of Suffering. Thanks again. ❤️🕉️

[@SusanButcher-pr2ft]

Brilliant!!! I have hoped for a conversation between these two! better than I could have imagined! Thank you so much!

[@atomoyoga]

This talk is gold! This mix is the most explosive mindful/intelectual cocktail that i have seen for a long time! ❤❤❤

[@constancewalsh3646]

We find these men amazing because they speak what our very cells know.

[@sumanjoshi7902]

This is what we need in this century. Science and vedant together.

[@markjohnson543]

Brilliant. These two men are gifts to ailing humanity. We need to listen deeply to what they have to say and then look directly into our own experience.

[@rsc953]

Yes, such a beautiful pairing...Lovely to behold. Thank you.

[@liviuclipa]

I had a glimpse of spontaneous Samadhi a year ago and now i see THAT everywhere. It is beautiful.

[@laika5757]

Advaita is music to my ears.🎼🎶🎸

[@iscottke]

A joy to see these two together.

[@oliviergoethals4137]

Thx for the great questions they both asked each other. What a gift.

[@sabitaajwani4700]

Excellent ----- Two of my favorites

[@adityajoies]

What a great discussion, I need to rewatch this. Thank you.

[@Misty-Nahuel]

Me siento reflejada en la sonrisa de satisfacción y reconocimiento de Bernardo del comienzo. Yo podría estar escuchándolos a los dos todo el día. Este diálogo es un sueño hecho realidad.

[@Estado_Alterado]

Me siento igual, una hermosa conversación.

[@Misty-Nahuel]

@@Estado_AlteradoOtro sueño: Bernardo Kastrup, Rupert Spira, Donald Hoffman, Thomas Campbell y Swami Sarvapriyananda reunidos ♥️

[@samuelcantu8321]

Increiblemente afortunados en ser testigos de este dialogo. Dos brillantes intelectos.

[@soumyabanerjee8879]

Much much awaited discussion

[@neharai4927]

“I could sit here and listen to you all day”. That’s the compliment befitting of Swamyji as given by our wise Bernardo😊😊😊

[@skyqt9468]

What a beautiful discussion. Thank you all 🙏

[@markgillespie4630]

What an outstanding conversation.

[@marybarker4925]

Thank you so much. I have listened to both of these thinkers separately for a while now. It was nice to hear them in conversation.

[@thomassimmons1950]

One of the most Beautiful discussions witnessed on The Tube...makes one glad...thankful to be alive!

[@amanitamuscaria7500]

Fantastic to see these two together. What a wonderful, intelligent and insightful conversation. Many thanks to all involved.

[@connie2735]

I feel so blissful experiencing the sounds that ring true. Thank you🙏🏻 💐🤗

[@Sethan777]

Beautiful conversation 👏🕊❤

[@TheRealSelva]

I just wanted to share my thoughts on Bernardo's question on the void experience and bliss. It is the difference between a contentless experience and being content. A person experiencing the void might not necessarily be content. It might not be the experience that they want to be having. Hence they move away from the state in order to report it. Whereas bliss is being content irrespective of the contents of experience. An extreme example would be a person in rage or agony might still be content as they are experiencing exactly what they want to experience. The fact that these experiences exist is evidence that bliss generates it. But why would one want that? That is the real question. And only the real you knows the answer.

[@Metanoia99]

These are my two favourite people. I was so moved watching this.

[@surrendertoflow78]

This. Was. FANTASTIC! Wonderful pairing 👏🏻 And what a wise present to give yourself! Thank you for sharing this gift! 🙏🏻💜

[@innerlight617]

What an inspiring conversation, a real gem!THANKS!ॐ ❤ 🙏

[@niranjansaikia9379]

Really amazing insightful Conversation..delighted to Bernado and Swami ji together❤❤❤🎉😊

[@cheri238]

Thank you both for this rare account of sheer revelation, intensely human account that brings our world to a better understanding of interrelationships of consciousnessness and unconsciousness. "Path presupposes distance: If He be near, no path thou at all. Verily it maketh me smile To hear of a fish in water athirst. 🙏❤️🌍🌿🕊🎵🎶🎵

[@grzegkania]

It is just sheer joy to listen to these two men talking with each other. I've been following their podcasts for some time now and I wished I would get to listen to their conversation and it did happen! Thank you.

[@maheshseshadri490]

Wow this is what I have been waiting for a long time. Two great mind and human being discussions on the Consiouness. 👌👌🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@billyoumans1784]

Phenomenal. I’m a fan of both of these and a member of S.Sarvapriananda’s Vedanta Society in New York. So glad to see them together!

[@Larcey]

Absolutely fantastic. I have also been hoping this conversion would happen. Thank you everyone who was involved in bringing Bernardo Kastrup and Swami Sarvapriyananda together!

[@satyana8551]

What an absolute delight to see these two beings sharing the same space..... 😲🙏🌟 Thank you for pairing two gems....

[@dragonniz]

Thank you so much for organizing this meeting of minds! Ever since I encountered Bernardo Kastrup's Idealism, I've always wondered how is it different or similar it is to advaita - and to have the comparison and analysis done by swami is just brilliant! Thank you again!

[@nancyg3590]

Brilliant conversation. I’ll be adding this to my “best of” YT Advaita videos. Namaste. ❤

[@chrisallard1819]

Fantastic - from start to finish!

[@fursatke]

This was a great conversation!! Amazing viewpoints from the monk make so much sense.

[@ardleighcleveland]

Brilliance collides ✨ thank you

[@paulkeogh7077]

Thank you Swami and Bernardo for this very insightful dialogue. I am a didgeridoo player and resonate with Bernardo’s description of his experience of the void. Finally I understand what I’ve been experiencing for 2 decades playing this ancient and profound instrument which has a single fundamental note or drone that I can modulate to generate various frequency patterns or distortions of the fundamental note. I’ve always felt transported to a timeless, infinite dimension, which I can now confidently describe as “the experience of emptiness” rather than the emptiness of experience. Amazing 🙏🏼

[@gratefulkm]

@@radhuchristian8406 Sheep , Wolves and Shepard's

[@vivekramakrishnan4870]

Look up Ramana Maharishi description of his enlightenment experience. Fear of death had vanished at once and forever. Absorption in the self has continued from that moment right up to this time. Other thoughts may come and go like the various notes of a musician, but the 'I' continues like the basic or fundamental sruti note which accompanies and blends with all other notes.

[@user-hy9nh4yk3p]

Flute playing in the Zen and especially the Indian scenario - also has the idea of the emptiness of the flute and the Cosmic life breath - animating the sound. Lord Krishna - is said to love playing - this Bamboo reed.

[@MettleHurlant]

Such a joy to hear this information. As Dr. Kastrup described the numbers and terms I thought about raga and dvesa. The rishis wrote about difficult concepts so simply and beautifully.

[@ruleroflines]

The discussion on Bliss was so helpful to me, thank you!

[@3426Patrik]

Thank you. Absolutely fantastic to hear this conversation.

[@philosophybabble]

Thanks for listening

[@rhclark6530]

This was wonderful. Thank you all

[@johannprs]

What a wonderful gift this talk, thank you Bernardo and Swamiji

[@mayukhdifferent]

This covergent discussion is an important milestone in the literature of philosophy

[@Meditation409]

This was so awesome that I have no words to describe How much I enjoyed this podcast!!! ❤ Very well done and very much appreciated this. 🤙🙏

[@maddywilcox9012]

Ohhh bless you and thank you both... A truly magical meeting of minds... And thanks to all involved in bringing these two divine souls together before UZ, happy birthday Ivy. X bless you this gift for your self has also been a gift to human kind. .. much love to all... Arwen

[@philosophybabble]

Thank you Arwen and much love to you too 💓💓💓

[@mohankoka]

BLESSED TO UNDERSTAND THE TALK BETWEEN 2 great minds!

[@ksan1648]

Lol, I didn't need to wait to listen before I hit the "like" button. Kastrup and Sarvapriyananda-what a combo!

[@monicanived]

I absolutely love these two gentlemen ❤ They are both so articulate. Swamijis summary of Vedanta in less than 20 minutes covers it all. It is the most important education. And Bernardo is so humble and authentic, it is a pleasure to listen to them. Thanks to Philosophy Babble for organising this. I mean what luxury! To be able to hear two great people in the comfort of your own living room. Truly grateful.

[@philosophybabble]

We agree!

[@siddhartharay01]

Bernardo's Sinusoidal wave with or without information was one awesome thought of understanding I found for consciousness. Swamiji's examples are always the easiest to understand as usual. Thanks!

[@ashwinisarah]

I've watched and heard this conversation several times already and every single time I'm blown away by a new, very personal and experiential insight. Sravana, sravana sravana. When the mind is stilled and is devoid of all objects, you see the illumination for itself. Until then, you have enjoyed the light simply as a means to illuminate the objects of the mind... your thoughts, emotions, ideas, opinions, judgements, fears, hopes, plans, schedules etc...Empty mind illumined by illumination. I see the mind as room crammed full with belongings. A stilled mind is one where you have emptied the room of all objects and you can stand in the light and truly meet yourself...or the truth...❤

[@nancyroche9637]

Thx u for bringing these two highly respected minds together ❤️ 💓 ❤ Swami needs a vaca..... 🎉

[@bansurivala]

@54:15, fantastic insights into the hard problem of consciousness! Bernardo Kastrup is amazing!

[@ramabangalore]

The finest gems ever😍💐

[@harlanmueller7499]

This is the best discussion on the Internet! These two brilliant minds have clarified several issues that I have had with non-dualism. Thank you.

[@compellingpeople]

Exceptional interview!

[@user-nm1be6ib1i]

Love love love this!

[@insiderich7372]

Ooooh, we have been waiting for this!! Two amazing minds :)

[@youtubecanal]

Obrigado por esta conversa. Curiosamente - ou talvez não - dois dos intelectuais desde o início do meu caminho, que continuo a ouvir com assiduidade. Vê-los juntos nesta troca de ideias é um privilégio. Obrigado.

[@Flowstatepaint]

Omgoodness!!!! Incredible juxtaposition ⚡️⚡️💕

[@sancharitaom]

So grateful to be able to sit home comfortably and have access to such great minds! 🙏 I've been listening to Swamiji for years now and he's really changed my life by changing the way I see things. I've learnt Advaita from him and even Bhakti. Thank you so very much to everyone involved who's made this talk happen and made it available to us 🙏 I'll have to come back and listen to it a few more times to fully absorb every bit of this priceless conversation .

[@philosophybabble]

Thank you. I've re-watched it 20x :D

[@sancharitaom]

@@philosophybabble 🤩☺️

[@prasadj8676]

Progressive stages of meditation on emptiness is the most useful and most beautiful spiritual book I have ever read. Thanks Swamiji!

[@MindzpeakPodcast]

Thanks allot for wonderful coordination.

[@akshaysawant5721]

Much Awaited!!

[@VenusLover17]

This is great. Thanks so much

[@amylee9]

so great to have 2 great minds during this discussion. I usually get frustrated when Bernardo is with someone who just doesn't get him and can't ask the right questions or really dive into his mind. This was very refreshing.

[@vijayajoshi6541]

What an adventurous journey of spirituality. mind consciousness wow dialogues of world class thinkers🙏🙏🌺 Jai Shri Ramakrishna

[@patriciaching6392]

Totally enjoyed… loved when Swami Vivekananda shared the computer had to have a beginning … TY… will listen again and again… ❤

[@JSzL33333]

Great conversation thankyou for this absolute gem 💜

[@muller9494]

Wow im greatful for this.

[@bayreuth79]

This conversation was one of the best and most enjoyable I have seen on KZbin. I hope that Bernardo will talk to more proponents of Indian philosophy, including Yogacara and Vishitadvaita

[@viswa2311]

Sorry. I think not. Because More Words and Practice given importance in All Indian Philosophies other than Advaita, and as Bernardo has no interest upon Languages and Words because of their Base/Description is still questionable, it's unlikely for a person like Bernardo to talk about those, IMHO.

[@yash6609]

​@@viswa2311 Advaita Vedanta gives importance to words and practice equally. Look up how the monastics are trained. No need of validation from anyone. It is not the philosophy that the west have to learn from Bharat. Rather, how 'darshan' informs even the minutest details of 'rashtra' as well as 'rajya', is the thing to learn. In the current setting, 'rajya' seems like a lost cause for Bharat, but the 'rashtra' is still alive, if one looks closely. I know that the 'rashtra' has been stabbed, but it will survive. The various classical art forms, language, architecture, society etc are merely expressions of the 'rashtra'. Obviously, Bharat has a lot to learn from the 'West' as well. Ignoring the 'material' is only going to lead to 'suicide'. I understand that. But, please, western philosophy wrt the 'self' is useless. Whether 'they' 'agree' or 'disagree' should be immaterial.

[@srinivasvaddiparthy]

Brilliant video!!

[@j2futures500]

👏Great job everyone 👏

[@anagha.aniruddha16]

Namaskar Swami Sarvapriyanandaji Maharaj 🙏🏻 Namaste Bernardo Sir 🙏🏻 Thank you Philosophy Babble for sharing this enlightening conversation.🌹 It covered a wide spectrum of subjects.

[@Togetherland]

Been waiting for this one!!! Thanks a million

[@bjw22]

Absolutely BRILLIANT

[@kathleensutherland6593]

What a treat - two of my heroes!

[@thomassimmons1950]

Funny thing, stumbled on to Swami several years ago. Had read the Gita and was familiar with the Mahabharata. I then read the Upanishads. It made so much sense, I reaffirmed my traditional Christian practice. Crazy... paradoxical? As Whitman says: "(I contain multitudes)" I call it walking and chewing gum at the same time. At any rate, thank you for presenting these two amazing men!! Vaya con Dios...[ ]...

[@user-hy9nh4yk3p]

Keep going deeper - even into the heart - so to merge - in the Divine State - within. Good luck.

[@thomassimmons1950]

@@user-hy9nh4yk3p Cheers!