LIVE: Bryan Kohberger hearing to discuss multiple motions

[@vanru2176]

Thank you for airing this.

[@UtahBlondeGranny]

What about the constitutional rights of the 4 kids that were slaughtered? They had the right to live their lives and that was taken away by a freak who left his DNA on the weapon sheif.

[@Mayhem42083]

Sadly, we have yet to reach a place where deceased victims have rights 😢 we barely let living victims have any rights. The criminal always has more

[@UtahBlondeGranny]

@, And how sad is that ? It irks me to see the monster sitting there in his monkey suit and his blonde lawyer, who resembles a couple of his victims, defending him. I’m glad they have a no nonsense judge now who isn’t letting her run the show this time !

[@Drae_Dirt]

Not trying to sound callous or anything but this is a criminal case hence id v bk. First comment is right but itd be very strange legally if the dead had wholsome right? Butchered that but i just mean as a living person. I knew there are a few that correspond to corpses. Totally get what u mean though and apologies if my wording didn’t make sense

[@UtahBlondeGranny]

@@Drae_Dirt , just imagine if one of the victims were your child and how you would feel if you had to sit through this clown show. I’m following one of the families and the heartbreak is real and excruciating. It’s extremely sad 😢.

[@Drae_Dirt]

@UtahBlondeGrannyi totally get what you meant and mostly agree. also my comment was for homicides.

[@Mart-u2u]

This defense council is grasping right now….

[@JamesCruise-j8l]

The judge is not wearing her argument, not in the least

[@Atomalone83]

Imagine having all this time to think about the argument you intend to make, and still tumbling through every aspect of it - like a dog falling down a staircase - while failing to articulate any of it coherently with cited case law that even fringes on relevance.

[@william_mac]

I second this notion!

[@j.c.7555]

Super secrets has been used much to often and sounds pretty bad to keep saying it imo.

[@Fairy71128]

@@j.c.7555 and they tore down the house… now no one can find REAL EVIDENCE

[@ruthcarter1360]

Why is the Judge argueing for prosecution? He looks utterly irritated by whatever Ann Taylor says.. something's off here

[@TheIggypop1]

Ann Taylor got her law degree from Parker Brothers

[@TheIggypop1]

Not sure she understands what a franks hearing can be used for. She's like MTG a dumb dumb blonde

[@Fairy71128]

Cover up

[@ruthcarter1360]

And Jennings?? Lucky packet??

[@Dawn388]

Everything the judge said the icky attorney repeated as his argument. The prosecution is dirty.

[@poker2663]

If you were truly innocent there would be no way you would be able to sit there like this clown and act so calm about this since he was arrested.

[@ruthcarter1360]

Like a calm clown? What do you expect BK to do exactly, have outbursts and annoy Judge? What are you saying?

[@j.c.7555]

@@ruthcarter1360 lol

[@ruthcarter1360]

@@poker2663 poor BK, he's been called so many names. Shame

[@poker2663]

@@ruthcarter1360 I’m saying since day 1 when he was arrested he had no emotion 😐 nothing no denial or confusion of why. Would you have acted like that I doubt it very much. His own family thinks he’s guilty.

[@ruthcarter1360]

@poker2663 sorry 😐 I don't agree with you or buy into your...guilty by the way he looks... theory. That's another myth or untruth about his family thinking he's guilty... that's what MSM does.

[@KarinaTheDreama]

The DNA was handled appropriately & properly. Likely, ME recovered it or had LE CS recovery tech do it entirely. Either way, it was handled by LE. What motive would anyone have to risk everything & plant it. & how? There would no advantage to anyone to pick him out and frame him! Don’t be stupid!

[@gingerpeoples8970]

This is so embarrassing! Why are they all talking like they are uneducated? This cant be a real trial. No way

[@SeanWelch-l8i]

Well that's because it's not a trial it's a hearing

[@gingerpeoples8970]

@SeanWelch-l8i it just sounds so childish the way they are talking, imo.

[@JamesCruise-j8l]

The judge is not wearing her argument

[@j.c.7555]

It sounds as if she is accusing the prosecutors theory having many errors. My question is why would the prosecution want to convict another of a crime without evidence ? Probable cause was there. And cant be denied period.

[@robinlathim8221]

Why would they want to convict the wrong person? Are you serious? It happens every day in every courtroom in America, where have you been?

[@j.c.7555]

@ robinlathim8221 oh whatever…I know it has happened but you are exaggerating..everyday? ? Are you following every case everyday which are many…?? Give me a break..lol. This is about 4 young individuals needing justice and having probable cause not technicalities. Let’s just wait for the trial and let a jury decide based on evidence including circumstantial.

[@Williamb612]

common…Kohlberger is the guiltiest man in the world…and there are a million pieces of evidence…it is called circumstantial…add them all up and he is guiltier than sin

[@DesignRhythm]

Yet the police just ignored some unknown man's bl00d on the stairs & another man's bl00d on a glove outside.. not to mention their 2 eye witnesses have given proven false statements.. and there's zero dna or evidence from the victims or house in BK's car, home or office. Zero. This case is BS, he's a Patsy.

[@tinseltq5032]

Please say the 3 most important pieces of circumstantial evidence that you think there are@@Williamb612

[@alyssawssinging4039]

Why is the lady sitting by Bryan smiling?

[@nickisnyder3450]

She's his lawyer & this case is going to make her famous

[@alyssawssinging4039]

@@nickisnyder3450no duh but why think it’s funny?

[@Mart-u2u]

Either a 11:31 mused by the arguement or….? Has bought into her so called strategy.

[@j.c.7555]

@@alyssawssinging4039 maybe she knows she is being filmed and wants to look good?🤷‍♀️

[@KimberlyEnglish-ps2tl]

Maybe she's just having a good day😂

[@gingerpeoples8970]

WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE!!!???

[@Fairy71128]

@@gingerpeoples8970 the evidence is on the walls and inside of the house that was torn down… 3 male DNAs NEVER TESTED OR TRACED

[@Therapistmind]

Have they all forgotten that 4 young people were murdered! Since his arrest has there been anymore? Get on with this trial

[@DesignRhythm]

6 students have died under strange circumstances at WSU & U of Idaho since Nov 2022.

[@robinlathim8221]

Omg this Jennings is so sarcastic and such a smart ass, with her laughing and scoffing at the defenses logic, is sickening!!!!

[@TweetyPAK7]

If someone commits a crime, they have no right of privacy over evidence left at the crime scene. That's ridiculous. No one would ever be arrested. TOS agreements usually cover police searches of data in the case of a crime and by agreeing to terms, they agree to police searches.

[@nicolerichman595]

Nicolas Balance! Hell ya! He’s on it!

[@sandrabaker1312]

Here job is too defend the client, and to save his life, even if she is talking utter rubbish.

[@marilyngoossens1379]

The defence seems to be accusing everyone of not doing their jobs. For goodness sake

[@ronwaggoner6899]

I finally get the see Anne Taylor in action... She's not very good in fact she's awful.. I'm also hoping that the woman presenting the prosecutions arguments is not going to be the lead attorney. She is equally awful but with an easier job.

[@Oceanlee261]

How on earth are they going to find a Jury.. 🤦

[@GinaPowell64]

This entire hearing is a joke

[@nicolerichman595]

Where is Lindsey Blake? 😅

[@admin1815]

Ok, so in the end 4 people are dead and there is a defense attorney throwing out alot of falsehoods trying to get her client off. I get it, defense attorneys have to lie to try and win especially if they know their client is guilty. I haven't seen a case yet where they haven't told a lie except for the Vallow case. Lets not forget the victims and their families in all of this. Just because you say alot of words and act smart does not mean you are correct.

[@KimberlyEnglish-ps2tl]

Better her b.s. than the hocus pocus b.s. the state is throwing out there:)

[@DesignRhythm]

Um, did u not watch the entire hearing? DM lied to investigators, all the bedroom doors were open, Murphy barking for 25 minutes after the car already the neighborhood, 3 other men's bl00d found at the scene that was never identified. This is a cover-up.

[@tinseltq5032]

What lies or falsehoods in particular from this hearing?

[@ruthcarter1360]

Why are the prosecution team coughing so much while Ann Taylor is talking??

[@GinaPowell64]

Bubbas gonna have fun with Bryan in prison

[@chicosmummy]

Even Bubba has his standards he would be repulsed by this incel.

[@Ashleylove1995]

Disgusting people 😒

[@wayneb9463]

Does the sheath found 100 percent belong to the weapon that was used?

[@DesignRhythm]

Good question.

[@tinseltq5032]

Who knows

[@KarinaTheDreama]

She inadvertently gave Bryan a reason for appeal insofar as he has poor representation. I mean she made a huge argument out of something that doesn’t exist.

[@y2ksurvivor]

..which could easily be seen as vigorously defending him.

[@william_mac]

I waited to comment on this story, I needed time to absorb what I was hearing. So I slept on it. I've followed the BK case rather closely, as I live 30 miles from Moscow. This is most certainly one of the most horrific cases in the state of Idaho's criminal history. As I watched my TV intently, BK there at the table. The first thing that came to mind was "I hope that guy is bolted down." Now my opinion on the hearing. First and foremost, I watched the judge almost fall asleep, not to mention he was bracing his head up almost the entire hearing looking so bored. I truly believe the judge has already made his mind up on his rulings. As for the defenses motions.... A lot of unexcusable nonsense. She should tread lightly. You know there is an attorney review board. If she continues to waste the Court's time she could be disbarred. Now let's talk about the female prosecutor from Moscow. As I watched her address the issues I must say... I found myself kocking my head more than a few times. She seems very inexperienced to handle a hearing such as this. Once again the judge seemed uninterested in what these lawyers had to say. And that's all I have to say.

[@DesignRhythm]

How did u miss all the bombshell news from the defense? Some unknown man's bl00d dna found on the stairs? Another man's bl00d dna on a glove outside? DM's witness statements proven to be lies? All the bedroom doors open with the victims in plain view but the cops weren't called for 8 hours? Murphy barking for 25 minutes after the Elantra left the area? Etc.

[@MillaJ100]

‘Not in this context…’ lol! 😂

[@Babygirl_123]

What if he’s innocent

[@Fairy71128]

He is, they fudged up DNA search, hence they can't produce anything

[@amesray2022]

Starts at 5:22 58

[@Vickielynnrenegar]

With all due respect, as a lay person who understands the material better than the one overseeing the hearing, I am horribly embarrassed to view this. PS-- Mr. Kohberger has had enough time to study, pass the bar, and become an attorney by now. If this were my loved one, I'd be livid and highly motivated. Again, I say this with all due respect to each and everyone involved. I know we can all be better than this. I encourage all folks everywhere to be the best that they can possibly be and never accept anything less... I say this with deep sadness in my heart. I've learned to love folks without malice. I also have a clear conscience. I know it's the unconditional love I feel inside me that gives me the strength, and for that I am very grateful. I can love each one while viewing and still make this observation, which is what I am doing... with all due respect.

[@raymondtindell8339]

can't sit for the bar with murder charges hanging over his head

[@Vickielynnrenegar]

@raymondtindell8339 Appreciate that. I'll research now. My bad

[@Vickielynnrenegar]

I wanted to leave two references to the material I found while doing my research. I found it fascinating The Marshall Project~ Framed for Murder By His Own DNA We leave traces of our genetic material everywhere, even on things we’ve never touched. That got Lukis Anderson charged with a brutal crime he didn’t commit. Feature • FILED 7:00 a.m. • 04.19.2018 By Katie Worth And, I found this especially interesting due to the fact it's in Boise: Boise State Professor Changing Lives With Forensic Biology November 10, 2023 Working alongside a team of specialists and trained volunteers, Hampikian has helped free more than three dozen wrongfully convicted people. Hampikian’s Idaho Innocence Project lab attracts some of the most challenging DNA cases from around the world. A national organization dedicated to freeing the wrongfully convicted through DNA testing, the Idaho Innocence Project at Boise State has become known worldwide and has been instrumental in DNA testing for criminal cases. He brings this knowledge and passion to classes he teaches like “Wrongful Convictions”, “Forensic Biology” and “Human/Viral Coevolution.” The subjects attract new students to his lab each year. In addition to his responsibilities with the Idaho Innocence Project, Hampikian is also the Director of the Forensic Justice Project and the Boise State University Wastewater Epidemiology Laboratory as well as a charter fellow of the National Academy of Inventors. Extra note: Dave Henry, an intern turned employee in Hampikian’s lab, explained, “I learned a lot about how to deal with people experiencing wrongful conviction, how to help them stay positive, and how to keep forward motion, even when everything is pushing against you.” I love learning ❤

[@WiseChild1987]

1:25:10 After the arrest PCA was released, my assessment of the path Kohberger likely took from Pullman to Moscow just prior to the murders was that he probably took Sand Rd. via Johnson Rd. If he did take Sand Rd, my only question is: is there video of the car on Johnson Rd from the same location that recorded him returning after the murders?

[@heavychevy4355]

That’s crazy about the dog..

[@kimtaylor5522]

The friends opened the door when they arrived. The door wasn’t open all night. She left that part out!!

[@heavychevy4355]

@kimtaylor5522 what friends?

[@HiroshimaMS]

Right? There is a big difference between barking a little and barking for 20 minutes. It raises many questions, namely why didn't the roommates go to the 3rd floor to see what was going on?

[@HiroshimaMS]

@@kimtaylor5522 how do you know that? Do you have access to the entire court documents and discovery?

[@kimtaylor5522]

@@heavychevy4355 the friends that were called over. The same friends that called 911. It wasn’t the roommates that called 911 it was people the roommates called over who went to check on the other people in the home and found them dead.

[@Dawn388]

1:38:05 “unknown male B AND blood attached to the handrail. Also a male D. Two unknown males?

[@nellym.6555]

DNA evidence alone is not enough to convict a person of a crime, and in Bryan's case, they have DNA that is not even known how it was handled. I am completely shocked to hear all the lies created by the state.

[@hearmenow909]

What about the other circumstantial evidence? If you put it all together, there's a high probability he did it.

[@nellym.6555]

@hearmenow909 Tell me which ones?

[@carlaramirez3519]

@@hearmenow909 They made no effort to obtain a profile of the DNA (blood) they found on the handrail, but were able to find a profile of the touch DNA that was found on an object that can be easily manipulated and planted.

[@Seashellsbytheseashore21]

@@hearmenow909 there's no other evidence. what are you talking about? there's no dna evidence in his car or apartment. his blood isn't in the crime scene. there's no murder weapon to be found to examine. there's no connection through social media. there's no picture of him. there's footage of a white car, and other white cars as well. do you have a white car?

[@karendraudt]

And you think Koburger is telling the truth? I don't think he or his lawyers are truthful and the judge is not all that impressive either.

[@KarinaTheDreama]

YES it is. DNA alone is ideally what u want for a conviction! They have so much more overwhelming evidence as well.

[@carlaramirez3519]

Touch DNA is not enough. At today's hearing, one of the witnesses told the police that she didn't remember anything because she was drunk and that she wasn't sure what she saw that night. The police lied at the PCA. They found blood from 2 men that does not belong to BK.

[@nellym.6555]

@@KarinaTheDreama Overwhelming??? 😂🤣🤣

[@hearmenow909]

A DNA match does not provide certainty that the individual committed the crime. DNA is only used as supporting evidence, there has to be other evidence to go with it, on it's own a conviction is unsafe. In this case there is other circumstantial evidence, which when put together with the DNA evidence should be enough for a jury to be swayed. It boils down to the probability of the DNA being there, combined with the circumstantial evidence, when you put it all together it doesn't look good for Brian K. Especially when no other likely suspect is in the picture.

[@carlaramirez3519]

@@hearmenow909 They made no effort to obtain a profile of the DNA (blood) they found on the handrail, but were able to find a profile of the touch DNA that was found on an object that can be easily manipulated and planted.

[@KarinaTheDreama]

Yes, overwhelming circumstantial. Several different cctv cameras obtaining a while Elantra driving around the scene before & after the murders & parking at the proximal time before & then after, the parking adjacent to the scene. There as a title search performed on o see how many like year, white Elantras existed in that search criteria & there was only one other which was titled as salvaged as wrecked where they asked the person & the no longer had the wreckage for several months. Phone data placing him in the area circling the scene & turning the phone off etc etc during the time the murders were committed. Social platforms: Bryan’s remarkable inquiry re the case. Although the girls were not part of his social environment, he kept their photos & followed 2 of them & had been denied when he tried to get a date w one of them. He also stated he had never been there. His alibi is mush. He can’t show he was not in the area. And during his classes he had been known to brag that he could get away with a murder in detail. The witness noted the physical description which match’s Bryan’s down was o heists & bushy eyebrows. There u go.

[@rowenareinertsen4749]

This judge’s body language is very disrespectful towards the person talking. He acts like he not even listening.

[@Mart-u2u]

Its a hearing. She is tiresome.

[@petermarshall6577]

She's basicly says an investigation was illegal because you were using his DNA w/o his consent.

[@AllegedlyAngela]

So she’s basically admitting that the DNA is a match to him and indeed belongs to him.

[@petermarshall6577]

@@AllegedlyAngela Hair brain defense. she's applying that he has 4th amendment rights for illegal search and seizure of his DNA and its submission to the DNA database ???

[@Drae_Dirt]

why is the judge arguing this one. When here is this much misunderstanding (?)bc there are no laws about igg, this issue needs to go to the supreme court

[@HiroshimaMS]

The introduction (retention) of DNA into the CODIS database can only be done for DNA from convicted people. This means that DNA identification search can only be done by consulting the CODIS database and not any other! Therefore, searching for DNA identification by any other means is illegal! It's as simple as that.

[@becklesgeckles8323]

The judge doesnt want to be apart of this case because he knows both sides are a joke. Watching the judge is heartbreaking because its distasteful how he carries himeself. He is rude. He interrupts because you can tell he thinks the person speaking is stupid. Its embarrassing all around. For those that think this is all okay how this case was investigated need to really sit back and think about integrity of investigating. Shady work is unacceptable. If they can't give receipts then how do we know the DNA wasn’t planted. It should be a clear picture. Videos not clear and missing parts and the phone data not done sounds sketchy to me. If this guy did this, in my opinion they just let him walk because I cant say with certainty that he did this also knowing the other little things surrounding this case. Also, how does it not concern anybody about his supposedly DNA grew in size once FBI got a hold of it???

[@pmj0seph]

please tell me this man isn't going to walk after committing 4 murders

[@nellym.6555]

@@pmj0seph Where is the evidence?

[@j.c.7555]

@@nellym.6555 Have you been following from the start?😂

[@nellym.6555]

@@j.c.7555 💯

[@Williamb612]

if he walks, he will be walking right into an American buzz saw….someone will take him out within a week. If he does not get the death penalty, then he will be safer in jail

[@Ashleylove1995]

They have a innocent man in jail

[@flynneart1111]

Super secret shutit