Easy and CHEAP Rogue Monster Rack Upgrade

[@watchman9198]

Brandon’s brain: don’t say it, don’t say it, don’t say it, Brandon: I kinda like to spend money

[@BasementBrandon]

Tax write off!

[@michaelg613]

@@BasementBrandon you train clients out of your gym?

[@BasementBrandon]

Michael g nope!

[@RyanTreadaway]

I love how crispy your audio always sounds.

[@BasementBrandon]

Thanks man!

[@KyleHohn]

The binging with babish of lifting

[@SeaSential]

@@BasementBrandon Totally agree, what mic/audio you using ?

[@BasementBrandon]

@@SeaSential in this one i'm using a sennheiser mke600

[@hernandez92881]

Very informative brotha. Your detailed changes covered all my questions- before my next 2021 purchase (RM-4). ON POINT !

[@BasementBrandon]

Glad I could help

[@bmstylee]

I am picking up my Rogue RM4 Fortis Rack on Tuesday in Columbus. Making a road trip from Cleveland. I have been saving for a while and debating over the bolt together or welded. And since the welded pannels are significantly cheaper it's a no brainier. Monster compatible and the same price as a Monster Light. I will probably add a new crossmember at some point and move the pull-up bar to the middle.

[@bmstylee]

@@Pler1978 more hardware I guess. It's nice if you have restrictions moving it. Mine is going in my garage so no height or width issues. And less customization options. Just black which is fine.

[@ultimaetsolder]

I love my welded R3.

[@BasementBrandon]

Those Fortis racks offer tremendous value. I considered one, but feared I wouldn't be able to fit the panel in my basement through the bulk head.

[@bmstylee]

@@Pler1978 I would guess that you can buy the additional crossmember to do it.

[@HighSpinSwingSpeed]

I did this upgrade and it’s well worth it… I added the cross member in the center of my RM6 and moved the name plate to the back. Mainly so that I use more of the upright for the trolley arms since the name plate takes up so much vertical real-estate and also put my Surplus UPS inside the rack. It’s a great upgrade. Now I just need to get the Brandon bench prop and mount the low row UPS to it.

[@BasementBrandon]

Glad to hear it worked out!!

[@travis19802005]

Could you have fit the multi grip pull up bar in the middle without hitting your head?

[@BasementBrandon]

I believe so. It might be too cramped b/c of the slinger taking up a few of the notches up top.

[@travis19802005]

So if you didn't have the slinger you would have plenty of room for the multi grip pull up bar?

[@BasementBrandon]

travis19802005 yep!

[@cetatlanta]

Did you consider doing black for consistency with the pull-up bar and rear crossmember? I'm adding one of these to my gray rack and am torn between doing gray to match the frame or black to match the other upper attachments.

[@BasementBrandon]

I didn't, although I think it would look just as good.

[@asdasdd320]

0:52 Thanks for making me feel self conscious about my gap :(

[@LightningN1NjA]

Pertti same here I almost wanted to leave a mean hair comment.... but I didn’t

[@BasementBrandon]

I still love you.

[@JasonParham83]

@@LightningN1NjA what about those of us that are bald AND have gaps?

[@jamesx4532]

I am glad I watched this I am going to take the rogue off the cross member and move it to the front I have the lite. So I'll move the pull up bar to the back. I saw a picture someone put the rogue emblem on the pillar I think I'll do that

[@BasementBrandon]

I think they now sell them like that as well.

[@HookemPNW]

You could have just added used a loop strap and added carabiners to that to protect your bar finish. But who am I to say, I have a monster front cross member too.

[@BasementBrandon]

Thought about that, but the member gives me more options (like the bat wing)

[@jesusmartell6967]

Can you please make a video regarding the inner space of the rack? Do you have enough space to move freely?

[@BasementBrandon]

Sure do, If I had to do it again I'd def go 30" depth. 43" was nice, but more than I needed.

[@jesusmartell6967]

@@BasementBrandon thank you!

[@triplecap4307]

Totally agree, did the same thing last year.

[@BasementBrandon]

Party!

[@rubio90r]

I have the the rm4 in the same color and was wondering why rogue doesn't make there rogue logo black and have the square tubing white to match the rest of the rack on the name plate cross member.

[@BasementBrandon]

not sure TBH, prob cuts down on production

[@CaptDantastic]

A very practical solution to a real problem. Take care going up or else you'll bump your head!

[@BasementBrandon]

Hah it's deeper than it looks.. (that's what she said?)

[@jamestonbellajo]

Hey Brandon. I see Rogue now has a separate product page listed as “Monster 43” Top Beam”. Is this the same as what you’re talking about here? I see in the description it mentions the RM-4 and RM-6 but not the RM-3.

[@BasementBrandon]

Yes. The 43 in it refers to the length. The RM4 and RM6 are 43" deep, so they would be used for the sides of the rack. However all rogue racks are 43" wide inside so all racks would use this piece if trying to do what I show here.

[@airgordo4]

The more I see your videos the more I'm diggin' the white color on the rack.. Have you noticed any issues with it being harder to keep clean, or scratching more noticeable?

[@BasementBrandon]

easier to see dirt on it. Some of the UHMW padding can rub and show, but it rubs right out!

[@adam-ic5hu]

nice video why you chose the color white I am very curious thank you🤔❤👍

[@BasementBrandon]

I think it looks clean.

[@rcsieg7240]

Agree with you completely Brandon. I plan on doing the same thing so I can put a Sorinex Batwing on. More holes, more options 🤭

[@BasementBrandon]

I'm thinking something like that might be in my future!

[@plugger410]

I know this is an older post, but where can you get those shackles/carabiner attachments that you showed bolted to the crossmember? Also, what ab straps do you recommend? Thanks!

[@BasementBrandon]

I got mine right from Rogue!

[@emmanuelmartinez218]

I wanted those crossmembers for my RML but as you said they come in pairs and the price is higher :(

[@satinderjit4]

Titan fitness baby

[@emmanuelmartinez218]

@@satinderjit4 The pullup bar from rogue and the titan crossmembers have different lenghts so I dont think I can use both at the same time :(

[@BasementBrandon]

I wonder if they'd split it out if you emailed them.

[@LosFerrer]

But, on a RML what accessories fit there? The bolt he showed is not available on RML only in the monster series... :/

[@emmanuelmartinez218]

@@LosFerrer Adds stability

[@rikoandrejcetin]

Do you think that a single crossbar bellow would work with the newly attached crossmember on the top?

[@BasementBrandon]

It should

[@LosFerrer]

I wanted to emulate it in the RML configuration. It is quite curious the XML43 in the RML line is just a plain crossmember without gussets... but on the RIG options in the RML line you see the XML with gussets but no way to select those separatedly... strange... in order to obtain the look you have here in the RM line you need to get FOUR of those XML43 on the RIG option... why? I think it is a way to distinguish between RM and RML series. With gussets is a lot nicer I think. :/

[@BasementBrandon]

You can probably reach out to them and custom request them.

[@LosFerrer]

I tried already... in Europe there is no such flexibility as in USA. You can get only what is available in the EU webpage. :/

[@zimm035]

Trying to decide what rack to order. Can you move the pull-up bar to the top without an extra cross member? Not sure if it would sacrifice stability, but I need a couple more inches.

[@BasementBrandon]

Pull up bar can be mounted at varying heights, but depends where you want it and how tall your rack is.

[@adrianlee2780]

Hi Brandon! I asked in another of your RM-3 video if REP Lat/Low Pulldown attachment can be fit onto the RM-3. I now noticed that the Top of the NamePlate Crossmember do not have any 1” holes (just a flat surface). Would it be possible to add a crossmember (like the one you bought in this video) on the back (using the top 3 holes on the upright) then put the NamePlate crossmember below. Would this setup be able to install the REP Lat/Low pulldown attachment?

[@BasementBrandon]

It’s more than just the top name plate. Rep and rogue use different heights, widths, and measurements (metric vs imperial) so you’d likely have to do a lot of extra work to make it fit.

[@adrianlee2780]

@@BasementBrandon I think the Surplus Strength Lat Pulldown is more versatile to fit on the RM-3 and I have seen your review too! Thanks Brandon for doing all these awesome and honest reviews!! Appreciate that soooo much!!

[@adrianlee2780]

Brandon! I think I will get the Rhino Drop In and Surplus Strength Top Pulley - as a pulley system for the RM-3 instead of trying to install the REP Lat/Low pulldown attachment - think they will fit better together. Also want to ask for the RM-3, is it sturdy and stable during your workout? Or it wobble a bit?

[@BasementBrandon]

@@adrianlee2780 I never had an issue!

[@bill-ef6cs]

Great videos, can I move the rear crossmember on the RM4 to the front and then order a new crossmember for the rear with the Rogue name plate? Will the XM-43m multi grip crossmember fit in between the two crossmembers or would that become the front crossmember. Thanks

[@BasementBrandon]

Yeah think of these as big legos. As long as the pieces you're using are the same size as the space you're trying to put them in (43" or 30" for monster) than you can plug and play.

[@samk4761]

Which hanging ab straps do you recommend? Are the spud ones any good? Any issues with them hanging too low?

[@BasementBrandon]

Can't go wrong with Spudd.

[@chicken24ish]

Is your rack light gray? Are you still happy with your color choice? About to place my order just stuck on which color

[@BasementBrandon]

White! I love it.

[@ammonialime]

Rogue offers a Fortis version of the RM-3 with welded panels. Is there any reason not to buy this one over the more expensive RM-3?

[@BasementBrandon]

Depending on where it's going it might be harder to get it in (like a small stairway/door). Also in the instance where you might need to connect something near the bottom feet you may not be able to. They're great value racks though!!

[@ammonialime]

Brandon Campbell Diamond Thanks Brandon. The only thing I might connect is the extension feet you have.

[@broodfusion]

if you want just a single RML crossmember 43", you can contact customer service via live chat and they'll make it happen. It's around $60 if I remember correctly.

[@BasementBrandon]

Nice!!

[@prao4166]

With a middle-mounted pull up bar, I assume you don’t do any overhead presses inside your rack?

[@airgordo4]

Would it matter considering the weights would still be outside of the rack?

[@BasementBrandon]

I'm too tall.

[@chausonharmon693]

@brandon I have a suggestion for a video. I m about to start recording my lifts. Do you have a suggestion for a decent setup and if someone wanted to edit that footage a good program for mac and pc?

[@BasementBrandon]

Best bet is to use your phone before investing in camera gear. If you want to buy a physical camera, I think the Sony A6300-6500 offer some great options if you want 4k with the ability to adapt lenses. For software, it really depends on what you get comfortable using and learning. I primarily use Premiere, but FCPX is good too.

[@ethanmetcalfe6345]

Will these or any other crossmember work with a rep pr5000? I know the spacing is different, just curious if youve heard of anyone doing this?

[@BasementBrandon]

I'm not sure the upper ones will since Rogue uses a different style. REPs crossmembers are all centered on the brace where Rogue's upper ones are at the top.

[@IRONMAN79101]

What about the rep fitness lat pull down attachment for theyre pr5000 could fit your rack

[@BasementBrandon]

Different widths.

[@dcarterc]

Hey Brandon, where did you get those carabiner attachments? I too have the same issue with my ab straps and pull up bar. I didn't see these carabiner attachments on Rogue's site? Thanks!

[@BasementBrandon]

Which ones?

[@kane-Coaching]

Hi mate thinking of doing this but adding the ROGUE V2 FACE MOUNT PULL-UP BAR to the beam, it only comes in ML version tho, do you think it be ok to trust make the holes bigger to attaché to fit the monsters beam, would dimensions be ok? I’m having the rhino drop in and then central cross member to add stringer down the middle. So no option of pull-up bar inside of the rack.

[@BasementBrandon]

Maybe just get one of the monster pull up options like the solo mount ones?

[@nickc3365]

One thing I've seen nobody mention is the useless rogue name plates that bolt to the front. You lose a bunch of holes. I didn't even put mine on. Wish it was an option so I could save a couple bucks. That being said I am very happy with the switch from rml to the monster series. It's too bad you didn't get the full rack. The lever arms (short) are really useful.

[@BasementBrandon]

Yeah that's a good point, I think if I had jammer arms they'd for sure have to go.

[@dlroto]

I have the stabilizer in the back of my rack with a fat skinny combo in the middle and the single pull-up in the front.

[@BasementBrandon]

Nice! I did that on my old RML 690c with an extra pullup bar I had, made it super solid!

[@dlroto]

Brandon Campbell Diamond yeah it definitely makes it much more solid especially if your not bolted down, like I am. I originally ordered the stabilizer for the bottom of the rack but it wouldn’t work that way with my Bench, because my neck was hanging off of the bench which I didn’t like one bit. They should make a lower stabilizer that goes outside the rack shaped like a U so the stabilizer doesn’t get in the way.

[@droidmac]

I'm planing on buying an RM-6 before the end of the year(hoping for black friday deals for shipping). I'm definitely going to add a 3rd crossmember to my build. Adds stability and functionality.

[@CU08]

Just don't get the Ohio bar. My new gym uses them exclusively and being open less than a year, some of them have already warped and some don't even spin freely anymore. I'm appalled at how terrible the build quality is on these bars. I personally have an Ohio Power Bar and I love it, but after this experience, I really don't think Rogue has the quality people think they do.

[@BasementBrandon]

Sounds more like the people using them IMO

[@CU08]

@@BasementBrandon ... agreed, to an extent. I'm sure there are idiots doing rack pulls on them with weights they have no business using. That being said, I've seen the same sort of thing done at my other gym that uses exclusively American Barbell barbells. Not a huge fan of them for numerous reasons, but they remain straight and true. The other gym has also been open far longer and the barbells have seen far more use. Also, the barbell ends not spinning freely, that's a lubrication/build quality issue that has nothing to do with abuse (unless they were using them outside in the rain [they're not]). Just poor build quality IMHO. I posted a negative review on Rogue's website and it never got approved. Attempted again thinking it was a glitch and again, same result. I'd be very wary about the extremely high reviews on their website. Again, I have an Ohio Power Bar and I love it, but I'd steer clear of the standard Ohio Bar, or many of the barbells that have similar specs as it.

[@joshua-caesar]

Do you do any gymnastics stuff ? I am wondering if the middle mounted pull up bar would work for toes to bar or if you hit the front cross member

[@BasementBrandon]

I don't do them, so can't really comment!

[@rcadelina]

Does that pull up bar on the Rogue fit on the front on a Rep Fitness 5000 v2? I feel that’s more functional then the globe style from Rep Fitness

[@BasementBrandon]

It does not, different widths.

[@daviddial3213]

Thanks for the great information! I'm upgrading my old power rack and purchased a Rogue -390F Monster Lite. I also want to move the front pull up bar to the center of the rack because I also have rings and ab straps that I want to set up in the front. Which crossmember did you purchase and is it the same for the Monster Lite series?

[@BasementBrandon]

The Monster LIte crossmembers are slightly different as they use different hardware sizes, if you go on Rogues site and just search for monster lite crossmembers you should be able to pull up the product page.

[@travis19802005]

In your 3 mistake video from a while ago you stated that you wish you would have purchased the RML 490 and use the back for plate storage is there a reason why you didn't get the RM4 and done the same thing?

[@BasementBrandon]

Didn't have the space in the garage up top. Would have hit something.

[@gaber7232]

I know these crossmembers don’t include the bolts, do they sell them on the rogue site or would I have to go to a hardware store?

[@BasementBrandon]

They sell them, just have to put it in notes. They're not cheap so might be better off sourcing them locally if you can.

[@gaber7232]

Brandon Campbell Diamond thanks a lot man:)

[@Desmond2182]

Could you do this with the rep or 5000?

[@BasementBrandon]

Yes, but you'd have to use their crossmembers

[@Lb-ri5wr]

I want to make a gym in my spare room, I'm 6'3 and my ceiling is like just out of arms reach (I won't be able to do standing shoulder press). The width shouldn't be an issue though. What height rack would you recommend? Thanks!

[@BasementBrandon]

I'd measure first, but assuming it's an 8' ceiling. I'd make sure the rack is under 90"

[@padraigfoley310]

Reading this 2 years on but could you use a safety bar or cambered bar for standing press? Might get you the clearance.

[@Herdedsheep]

Too bad we dont have anything like Rogue, Sorinex Or Rep here in the UK

[@BasementBrandon]

Ah sorry! You do have some other options we don't over here like Kustom Kit and ATX

[@rdl1384]

Great review Brandon; thank you! I own the Rogue RML-3WC and was thinking of getting the full Monster Lite Slinger since it’s supposed to be compatible to this foldable Monster Lite rack I got; HOWEVER, after calling Rogue I found out they ‘can’t’ recommend installing this system into my foldable rack. I am confused and don’t know whether to get it or not. I can’t find any other KZbinrs like yourself willing to explain to me if they think this would work or not. Mind lending me a hand in answering this huge doubt I got? Thanks a lot always for all your amazing reviews man!

[@BasementBrandon]

I think they're likely saying that as the full slinger would consist of the big weight stack and they wouldn't want that on uprights that weren't attached or sitting on floor at all times.

[@rdl1384]

@@BasementBrandon that makes sense. Thank you Brandon! I’m looking into a full lat machine to replace this idea with the rogue slinger and had the Powertec Lat Machine in mind. Anything commercial-grade or a bit higher quality that you would recommend for me? Thanks again for all the help!!

[@BasementBrandon]

@@rdl1384 That opens up pandoras box. Lots of options. I think budget friendly ones are prob Fray or Titan (boo titan). But if you're willing to spend over $2k the world is your oyster.

[@sequoit76]

Hey Brandon, We are about the same height, do you have any issues doing overhead press inside of your 90 inch rack?

[@BasementBrandon]

I haven't tried, I prefer to do them outside the rack.

[@amheck]

Could you mount the globe pull up bar to this?

[@BasementBrandon]

Should be able to.

[@shark3939]

Will this cross beam fit in the Fortis Rack?

[@BasementBrandon]

Yes

[@9252LIFE]

Great, now I’m gonna look at our new Monster racks like there’s a gap between their teeth! 😆

[@BasementBrandon]

lol sorry!

[@emmanuelmartinez218]

Do anyone know if you can email rogue to get only 1 (talking about the RML that come in pairs)

[@bmstylee]

Should be able to. They do custom stuff.

[@BasementBrandon]

Might be able to.

[@Pler1978]

Yes.

[@theshtonsesh1278]

Could this be compatible on a Rouge SM-1 monster squat stand 2.0 ??

[@BasementBrandon]

I believe so (assuming the rack is 43" inside). The issue is more the height. The SM1 is only 70" tall so this beam will get in the way of squatting for a lot of people.

[@reginaldchesterfield8110]

Looks beefy thanks for the idea!! Im glad rogue has crossmembers listed haha.

[@BasementBrandon]

You and me both!

[@sadisticbutcher]

Did you notice a lot of added side to side stability from doing this?

[@BasementBrandon]

not a ton, was already pretty stable.

[@sadisticbutcher]

@@BasementBrandon trying this out on my white rep PR-4000. Unfortunately they only have black but I still think it will look better!

[@BasementBrandon]

@@sadisticbutcher yeah I'm sad to see they don't offer these for the PR5000

[@TheBluv12]

I want that rogue monster sling but its not cutting it in my basement.

[@BasementBrandon]

I'm not a big fan of it

[@greenwolf2299]

Would be really cool, if you could do vid about minimum requirements space wise for a home gym. There are plenty of groups on facebook, but most incorporate a lot of machines that i would never use. just as you i train powerlifting orientented and just need a rack, weight, dbs, kbs, ideally a reverse hyper, airdyne stuff like that. considering how you break down so many items, ideal space and height would make a nice addition to your videos. ;-)

[@BasementBrandon]

Thanks for the suggestion, maybe I'll revisit some of my home gym builds!

[@seabreezeof]

This is the best cross member for front of monster rack IMO adds support, and allows many different angles for pull ups and chin ups Rogue XM-43R NEUTRAL GRIP ROTATING PULL-UP BAR. Check it out Brandon. You need to do a video on it

[@BasementBrandon]

I'm not sure I can justify the functionality/space and the price!

[@seabreezeof]

@@BasementBrandon Factor in your two chin up bars and the front cross member you bought, and it pretty close to a wash. Plus you can hang from your feet on that cross member.

[@BasementBrandon]

@@seabreezeof To get the pull up bar and the front crossmember I have runs

[@seabreezeof]

@@BasementBrandon Perhaps one day Rogue will send you it to review on your channel, and you will see how versatile it is with any desired width, and angle you want to grip it. Sorinex offers one that does just about the same at 1/2 the price, "Cliff Hangers" but Sorinex is 41" & Rogue is 43" wide cross member. however I seen it on 2 types of cross bars one that is solid with no holes, and another with the standard 1" holes. Plus you can attach directly to Sorinex Full or Half Safety Bars for dips.

[@MatthewBuntyn]

How much extra flair are we talking about?

[@BasementBrandon]

I thought about adding in a clip but wasn't sure people would get it since a lot of them didn't get my earlier office space reference.

[@frankmorris2603]

I personally don't worry about size any more. Spent a lot of time just mastering the movement. 😬

[@BasementBrandon]

hey now!

[@fko1]

Who doesn’t like a nice monster sized aesthetically pleasing rack?

[@BasementBrandon]

hey now

[@johnbranson7253]

I did this using soft tie straps for loading motorcycles, cost about $6, works great but doesn’t look nearly as cool as yours.

[@BasementBrandon]

Thanks for the suggestion!

[@johnbranson7253]

I should have finished the thought: "But if I were posting videos of myself on KZbin in front of my rack all the time, I would have done it the way you did it." I did it the cheap way because it's just my son & me in the garage, and I don't care about form, only function, & this stuff gets expensive.I enjoy your channel!John

[@BasementBrandon]

Totally get it! Even if I weren't doing KZbin videos I'd probably have still done it. I just really like this kind of stuff (if you haven't figured that out yet).

[@tapetraining]

Looks 10x better!!!

[@BasementBrandon]

Thanks!

[@jeffcarver7202]

Michale Stayhan wants to see you outside.

[@BasementBrandon]

lol

[@greenwolf2299]

Good and simple idea!

[@BasementBrandon]

Thanks man!

[@bradleyl8427]

If you put in the comments that you want an extra top crossmember when ordering your Monster rack, you can get it for $20.

[@BasementBrandon]

Nice!

[@edlop6954]

Gapped-toothed Betty?!! 😆 LOL!!

[@BasementBrandon]

:)

[@VeesFunkyAZZshop]

"Stay Big Brandon"

[@BasementBrandon]

Trying man

[@ClarksvilleBarbellClub]

I could use another 2 to 3 inches myself...on my biceps, I mean. LOL!

[@BasementBrandon]

hiyyo!

[@ClarksvilleBarbellClub]

@@BasementBrandon I learned from the best.

[@michaelderenne9838]

This guy isn't house poor he's gym poor.

[@BasementBrandon]

we all have our hobbies :)

[@JohnDoe-wr3eq]

I'm looking to build a garage gym here soon and would like to get a power rack. I was wondering what your thoughts were on the Amstaff TR025 Power Rack. I know AlphaDestiny has one in his home gym and he seems to really like it. You can find his home gym tour here for reference: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6mUdZycetSWhK8

[@BasementBrandon]

It's a foot in the door rack, depends on what kind of build you'd like!

[@gilmartinez254]

Customization obzins

[@BasementBrandon]

yus

[@mplussant]

Validation!...I’ve considered doing the same...

[@BasementBrandon]

I love the change

[@Kurial94]

or just remove the useless rogue ad you have in the back of the rack?

[@BasementBrandon]

Looks better with it TBH plus I have my own custom nameplate on the way.

[@nonyobussiness3440]

So when are you going to stop dicking around and make your own manufacturing company? Hit up trident in CT get a Cnc machine.

[@BasementBrandon]

ain't nobody got time fo dat!

[@victorrasilla]

I hope Lauren Hutton doesn’t watch this...

[@BasementBrandon]

I don't know who that is lol.

[@victorrasilla]

@@BasementBrandon super model from 70’s/80’s known for having a gap in her front teeth...

[@lheimann05_94]

Lol you act like half of us can afford one of those racks

[@bmstylee]

They make the Fortis Rack. It's under a grand. Not bad value. And if you really look at what you spend on a monthly basis I bet you could afford one. I am guilty of spending on junk throughout the month. I just analyzed and cut the junk spending for a year and I get to take mine home Tuesday. Picking it up in Columbus.

[@BasementBrandon]

lheimann05 _ $1000 or so for something that will last a lifetime and can retain almost all its value if ever resold is a bargain IMO.