Easy Load-cell mod for Moza SRP Lite!

[@stupidpieceofequipment]

you finally hit 1k man, great job, keep at it

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@stupidpieceofequipment thanks for the support!!

[@StevenRegna]

I used the load cell kit for round about 4 months now. I used them for like 5-8 hours everyday. After all those hours racing with the load cell kit I used my old pedals without the kit and I realized that I dont want to race without this kit anymore. After installing the load cell kit and calibrate the pedals like shown on the tutorial for it (close the eyes, dont look at the 100% graphs and push the brake pedal as strong as you think 100% should be) I started my sim racing game of choice for the last few months - ACC! It took my only like 5 Minutes of practice to getting used to the load cell kit at all. After that I felt like braking felt more natural - like in a real car. Furthermore I have to say that you wont be a pro only because of the load cell kit. BUT your immersion is way better AND your overall braking consistency will improve the handling and feeling for your car and will result in an average better lap times. Long Story short: My lap times consistency improved, the feeling for my own car improved AND overall my lap times on all tracks in Assetto Corsa Competizione are faster than without using a load cell. 10/10 recommendation of buying the load cell kit.

[@MousemanLV]

i bought the kit too, installed it by usin the guide. The pedal readings are not great for me, it's basically jumping up and down by about 1-5 increments even though the pedal is in one position. Re-calibrateed the damn thing far too many times, even tried the ''dirty hack'' and no luck. Seems like I got a broken load cell..

[@StevenRegna]

@@MousemanLV simply write a message to the producer. He is very supportive and will help you out with the problem. If you have a faulty device I'm sure you will get a replacement for it.

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@StevenRegna thanks for sharing! 100% agree, I would not drive without a loadcell now, feels almost pointless as you are just guessing!

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@MousemanLV defo sounds like something is wrong with yours, hope you got it sorted out!

[@alanhaynes7410]

I find that this load cell kit works flawlessly. A real upgrade for your pedal set.

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@alanhaynes7410, awesome! Do you use the kit elastomer? Will you consider swapping it out?

[@alanhaynes7410]

@@MichaelSmithRaces I'm using the one with the performance kit but I'm going to try what you did with the part I took off.....

[@rbritsie]

@@alanhaynes7410and. … did it make a difference ?

[@goatesque]

Super interesting! Never heard of load cell mods before but fair play to Alex and his hard work!

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@groatesque WHAT! Logitech mods are a whole new eco system for you to explore!

[@alexlupascu3605]

Amazing! I loved how you filmed the install guide! So easy to follow

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

Great mod Alex, hope you get some orders!

[@elenaandrei1784]

Thank you for the insight! I just placed an order!

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@elenaandrei1784 I'm sure it will be a great upgrade for you!

[@DCOnTrack]

Great video! This will definitely be my first upgrade!

[@StevenRegna]

I have nothing to say except: I bought this load cell kit thanks to your video. Can't wait to finally receive the kit and be able to push the limits. Kind of ironic... pushing the limit.

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@StevenRegna I hope you love it!

[@danielsooon8128]

Any updates on your experince?

[@StevenRegna]

@@danielsooon8128 It arrived as promised. The whole time I was in touch with them and they cared about the process. This is Customer service at its best. I used it for a month now. The installation was easy. It works like a charm. At first my brake pedal made a squieky noise and I was annoyed about it. Gave it a try anyways and after 4 hours of driving the noise was gone. I tried some bought "load cell pedals" over at my friends house and they are exactly the same but way more expensive. My trail braking is much smoother and the overall feeling while braking is more natural. Like in my real car. Estimates time of usage is round about 4 hours per day. More on the weekends. As a sim racer this was one of the best purchases I've ever made. 100/10 would recommend!

[@robertcarr4172]

Yes how is it?

[@StevenRegna]

@@robertcarr4172 I used the load cell kit round about 4 months now. I used them for like 5-8 hours everyday. After all those hours racing with the load cell kit I used my old pedals without the kit and I realized that I dont want to race without this kit anymore. After installing the load cell kit and calibrate the pedals like shown on the tutorial for it (close the eyes, dont look at the 100% graphs and push the brake pedal as strong as you think 100% should be) I started my sim racing game of choice for the last few months - ACC! It took my only like 5 Minutes of practice to getting used to the load cell kit at all. After that I felt like braking felt more natural - like in a real car. Furthermore I have to say that you wont be a pro only because of the load cell kit. BUT your immersion is way better AND your overall braking consistency will improve the handling and feeling for your car and will result in an average better lap times. Long Story short: My lap times consistency improved, the feeling for my own car improved AND overall my lap times on all tracks in Assetto Corsa Competizione are faster than without using a load cell. 10/10 recommendation of buying the load cell kit.

[@RolandsSh]

Great video! I wish it covered a little bit more technical details as well (like what is the minimum and maximum forces that the sensor is rated for), but it also raised some points that I didn't really think before how the mod kit turns SRP-Lites into a a very accessible platform for further mods with 3rd party elastomers and springs. I had been in touch with Alex on reddit before, and he seems like a very enthusiastic and friendly guy. My mind was pretty much made up about purchasing the mod kit, but your video definitely reaffirmed my decision and pushed me over the edge towards placing the order. Can't wait to receive it soon!

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@RolandsSh Thanks for the comment, you will be very happy with it! In terms of forces, thats a fair point and to answer the question: as light as you want will register (some people add a deadzone for resting your foot), and as heavy as you will want to push. Thats the cool thing about a loadcell, its really just down to you to set min max in the software!

[@neiledwards6149]

How did the pedal mod work out for you?

[@andysonofbob2599]

Literally just bought this.

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@andysonofbob2599 awesome, I'm sure you will like it!

[@ASMCourtney]

Just got one as well thanks to you, great shout out for a budget way to get load cell brake experience

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@ASMCourtney awesome, hope you enjoy it! Its a really easy upgrade if you already have the perf mod!

[@timaruoutlaws1905]

Thank you for the video. Don't worry about being slow, even the fastest guys are slow compared to some other guys.

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@timaruoutlaws1905 thanks!

[@krizz0rr]

I am using the loadcell mod with the brake mod and SRP accessory kit. Works well, but haven't received a stand yet to give an honest review. It is possible to use those pedals on the floor against something, but need to give them a little angle so the pedal's plate doesn't raise - I am using the pedals against a sofa (+ created a slight angle from the cardboards received from Moza), however I can make the sofa slide if using too much force. It works, but definitely takes time to get used with such a volatile setup, better to immobilize those pedals. Anyway, SRP accessory kit can be used for additional stiffness.

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@krizz0rr yeah you certainly need to mount the pedals as you make them stiffer! A rig gets to be vital at a certain point, and I'm lucky to have a dedicated space!

[@alexlupascu3605]

Hi K, you definitely need a stand to use loadcells I'm sure I didn't skip this aspect when we spoke - you need to be able to consistently apply force on the sensor so a sliding pedalbase will negate the benefits. Please use a sturdy setup even if you have to make it out of wood. My rig is 4040 aluminium profiles and you can get a similar setup for less than 300euros shipped.

[@ivanfojan8859]

Great video and I love how you admit that you're not the fastest....I bet you're still faster than me though, lol. I've got the srp lite brake performance kit being delivered in a few days....I'll be trying that but I may well send off for this mod soon. Liked and subscribed :)

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

Thanks @ivanfojan8859 good luck with your simracing journey! The perf mod is a great upgrade, and the load cell is another great upgrade after that!

[@scp-foundation-wz2]

i"m get 3 of Moza Racing Lite Brake Pedal Performance Kit and doing all of the pedals

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@scp-foundation-wz2 lol, not sure if you are joking, but you dont want / need a firm thottle and clutch, it would just knacker out your knees as you are constantly pressing the throttle to maximum input!

[@juanavila5149]

Hi dude! Great video! Can i get some advice? Im looking to buy a Moza setup, I dont have a space for a cockpit, at most i can fit a PEIN pedal mount. Do you think I should get the R5 bundle + performance kit + this mod, or go all the way up to a R9 with the SRP pedals?

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@juanavila5149 I would say it depends how much experience you have with simracing already? I have not used the SRP pedals, only the lites. I personally think that the simagic P500's look like the best bang for the buck at the moment at the low / mid end. My main advice is that on PC you dont need an eco system, get the best components that suit you! Hope that helps, sorry for making it more complicated!

[@juanavila5149]

@@MichaelSmithRaces my brother has a CSL DD with the LC pedals, I have done some laps on that one and want to buy a set up of my own, but I don't have space for a full rig, only a pedal mount sadly

[@diddly3000]

It looks like you have the beefy pedal plate. I have the prime lite with this new pedal plate and i was wondering if you have yours installed normal or upside down? I have the rs12 seat which is totally flat. Initially i had the pedal deck installed normally but it felt too high in relation to the seat. So i flipped it, but now it feels too low. The main issue is i have the asetek forte pedals which are very upright. Like 90 degrees straight up, so it has all been a bit uncomfortable. Just curious how you mounted your pedal deck on your rig? Your prime lite review was very informative. Thanks 😊

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@diddly3000 yes I have the pedal plate flat. I pushed it down as far as I could, when I measured it was 17.5CM from the floor. I use VRS pedals which are vertical. If you have not yet seen I have a video on the trak racer universal seat mount, which will allow you to tilt the RS12 here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oojbZWlrerKbaNU and in my RS12 seat review I also mention it. See my bucket seat video and you will see that I'm really glad I upgraded to the Sparco seat though, and I would get that with bucket seat brackets personally then you will have the right tilt and a solid seat! Hope that helped, email me if you want to talk more :)

[@ihavealife002]

Can you explain how you calibrated it? I see videos of pit house with an extra brake setting(brake force factor, but I don't have it), but with the stiffer bump stop and the stiffer spring, the very little travel is making trail braking difficult, as just the tiniest input results in quite a bit of braking force. I imagine I'll get used to it, but I'm not sure if I'm just doing something wrong lol. Great video, btw.

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@ihavealife002 yeah there are two parts, firstly do the actual calibration so you press start calibration, then press the pedal to the max. After that you can hit the pedal as hard as you want, and see where it shows up on the graph and adjust the graph to match what you want. If you did what I did and replaced the damper rubber with the plastic block it will be very short and hard, but in that case you just treat the hard part as the start then press as hard as you want. This is one major difference with a loadcell vs potentiometer as its HOW HARD YOU PRESS rather than how far you move the pedal that you want to program in!

[@Sacharel]

Can you still use a clutch pedal? I saw some people conect it to the clutch input.

[@Ters-v8j]

Have you seen the new hydraulic upgrade? I woild like to see a review of that

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@Ters-v8j I use VRS pedals as my daily drivers so I wont likely try the new Moza ones, but the active upgrades look amazing!

[@ajberry3358]

I recognize those ASICS wrestling shoes anywhere. How do they feel as racing shoes with the high cut ankles?

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@ajberry3358 ha thats funny! I actually wear them for the gym rather than wrestling but they work great on the sim for me aswell! I confess I still often race in socks though, mainly because I'm too lazy to put them on :)

[@michaeljunaprasetyakanta9509]

Great video as always! Btw, is there a way to contact the load cell mod creator? I'm planning on buying it but sadly there's no option to ship to Singapore. Thank you!

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

I have let @alexlupascu3605 know you are trying to contact him! Email me if you dont hear back, my contact info is in my youtube bio, and I can pass on your details.

[@alexlupascu3605]

Hey, I can't reply with the e mail address, the reply gets deleted

[@alexlupascu3605]

You'll find a contact form on the website !

[@michaeljunaprasetyakanta9509]

@@alexlupascu3605 Sent u a message via ur website contact page 😁

[@Busters2005]

Since the new R3 bundle came out for xbox, which includes the SR-P lite pedals would this also work? Currently saving up for it as well as the performance mod (to upgrade from my g923 lol). If this works with the xbox compatibility aspect I want to get it in the future

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@Busters2005 yeah im fairly sure it works with xbox, there is a comment below saying it works!

[@sityu82]

Hold on, so the srp lite pedal is accepting a simple 2 wire bathroom scale loadcell AS IS?

[@alexlupascu3605]

no, there's a fair bit of magic involved to make it seem like so. The sensor is a full bridge and all the electronics are hidden inside the case

[@LoQOpa]

hi quick question do I set my brakes to load cell brakes on iracing after installing this mod ?

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@LoQOpa yep definitely!

[@Tincoco_]

off topic but what track are you driving at 6:16 during the first test. I played it in iracing once and wanna drive it in acc but dont remember the name

[@warbi505]

Looks like Oulton Park maybe?

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@Tincoco_ yep its Oulton Park, @warbi505 is right! One of my Favourites!

[@pranjalgupta8798]

Hi, I'm facing an issue with the hall sensor itself on these pedals. Anyway i can resolve it?

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@pranjalgupta8798 sorry no idea, contact Moza support!

[@gotem_stuck]

Will this work on xbox? I have Mozas R3 bundle that comes with SR-P Lite pedals.

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@gotem_stuck while I dont have an XBox to test, Alex thinks it should work as it works directly with the existing system so it should not know any different.... Probably worth a try :)

[@gotem_stuck]

​@MichaelSmithRaces I can confirm that it does indeed work for the xbox. I just received my order and it works great. I'm happy I watched your video.

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@gotem_stuck awesome! I had not seen your comment but I just put out another vid today and mentioned it should be compatible, so glad to hear its working for you!!

[@waynemcmurray8405]

Hey bud, where did you get that plastic insert from?

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@waynemcmurray8405 Its the base plastic part of the performance mod that you unscrew and remove to add the loadcell.

[@waynemcmurray8405]

Thanks for the reply, I mean the plastic part you used to replace the rubber.

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@waynemcmurray8405 yeah its the bit at the bottom of the performance kit, which you can then use with the loadcell also.

[@Jonbwoi]

can i get one of these ? i just checked the website and its out of stock ! how can i get one ?

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@Jonbwoi sorry im not involved with the company, best bet is to contact them via the website

[@andysonofbob2599]

Does the plastic thingy come with the kit? If not where did you get it from? Edit. That plastic is from the brake mod?

[@alexlupascu3605]

That's the piece that unbolts from the bottom plate of the performance kit. It's worth a try! you might like a pedal with less travel and don't even know it. Michael's elastomer is way too soft and offers little 'dynamic range'. Mine was the harder version PU but I found Michael's hack surprizingly precise (I do have a rubber piece inside the red spring however)

[@andysonofbob2599]

​@@alexlupascu3605 Ahh. Would it be possible to share where you got the rubber that you used so I can get one? I think it might feel a bit weird without. That said my brake mod is less than two months old, so may feel OK?

[@alexlupascu3605]

@@andysonofbob2599 It's a piece of a rubber flexible tubing I had lying around that has the exterior diameter exactly the same as the interiour diameter of the red spring so it slides right in - I cut that to 30mm and that's it. the interior diameter of the hose is 8mm I think so does not touch the center rod.

[@andysonofbob2599]

@@alexlupascu3605 Ahh. Did you say you used the rubber slice to soften the hardness of the spring to plastic connection? If so, I guess anything rubbery will do? I bought a couple of elastomers when I first got my Moza. (A complete waste of money because I didn't know what I was doing.) They're not a perfect fit but just about, I might cut one up and use that as a rubber washer?

[@alexlupascu3605]

@@andysonofbob2599 Not exactly - the spring still sits on the plastic piece that connects it to the elastomer. What I did is insert that rubber inside the spring so the spring never gets fully compressed but feels more "hydraulic" as it's harder and harder as you press since the rubber has nowhere to go

[@SebJ2522]

I just purchased the mod, how long did it take for you to receive it? It says it is currently on back order and I am curious.

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

Hi @SebJ2522 the mod was sent to me for free as a reviewer so that wont be relevent, but I know that the mods are made by hand and Alien-mods are waiting on materials to start on the next batch, hopefully some others can comment on delivery times, but I saw someone order one after my review came out and they got it in a few days! Im sure you will enjoy it a lot, will be worth a little wait! :)

[@SebJ2522]

@@MichaelSmithRaces Ahh thank you! By any chance, do you know anyway to contact the seller of the mod? On the website there is no way of contacting them.

[@alexlupascu3605]

@@SebJ2522 Hello! I emailed you!

[@alexlupascu3605]

Hello! I sent you an email!

[@SebJ2522]

@@alexlupascu3605 I see! Thanks for the quick response!

[@dawidkorbiel3721]

Where can I buy a plastic tube…?

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@dawidkorbiel3721 the plastic part I used in the video is the part that you remove from the performance mod to install the loadcell.

[@lukedeauxilium]

where can i get this?and is it ship to southeast asia?

[@alexlupascu3605]

hey! just click the link in the description and if your country is not supported just write in the contact form and I'll help out

[@Manicboy73]

there is no address on the shop side...from where does they ship?

[@alexlupascu3605]

Hey, it ships worldwide from Romania, the EU

[@TheTeacher80]

@@alexlupascu3605 So it is from Romania, nice to know, i fell better now if i manage to buy the R5 bundle. thanks that you clarified

[@RhythmAndPlay]

Netherlands

[@Derekpa8]

At this price we mite as well just buy a load cell peddle

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@Derekpa8 in the video I talk specifically about the usecase of someone who already has the lite pedals and performance mod, in which case I think an extra £60 for the loadcell mod makes perfect sense as an upgrade as the other money has already been spent. I agree that I would not recommend someone looking at new pedal sets to buy this combination. I think the new simagic P500 for example might be a great option.

[@scp-foundation-wz2]

my mod g920 pedals are better than my r5 moza pedals

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

Yeah im not suprised @scp-foundation-wz2 the lite pedals are the weakpoint of the bundle IMO but its so they can be used without being mounted

[@christiankobain2874]

I’m sorry if I’m stupid but I converted the price to usd and it’s 6.6 thousand dollars? lol no way

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@christiankobain2874 haha that must be the diamond encrusted gold one! Its around $66 I think... perhaps the website is messed up, I'm not sure what currency it is showing for you but for me it shows euros?

[@demonboyden7845]

That sounds like Uganda usd lol or it their delivery charge haha 😅

[@JoshuaCox-hh8mi]

It cost me a little under 100$ to get shipped out to Seattle WA, but I'm excited to try it out 🤟

[@demonboyden7845]

@@JoshuaCox-hh8mi same mine was £94.00 uk pounds but still waiting on it

[@GEORGIVS100]

Xbox ?

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@GEORGIVS100 @gotem_stuck says it does work in a comment below!

[@petermaardananders6803]

I won't advise anyone to buy Moza things ever, they did not even try to RMA my broken R5 brake pedal correctly. It took them from April 30th to July 11th, 2024 to get me a working brake pedal again, and you know that the issue is a persistent issue/reoccurring error (in all their brake pedal models) they should have already fixed for all users. And if you are one of the lucky ones who had a good RMA service, think about those who have been left with next to no service from Moza (China)or their intermediaries (Rseat France/Germany (in my case the intermediary of Hardware Experts, the Netherlands)))and their retailers (in my case: Hardware experts, Lelystad, the Netherlands( Bram Nijs & Jorgo Rinu)). Never buy their products if you want to play it safe. This video proves this brake pedal circuitry is no rocket science by any means

[@MichaelSmithRaces]

@petermaardananders6803 thanks for sharing your experience. I had great support from Moza via gtomega here in the UK when I first got my bundle, but as you say its totally different depending on distributor / going via china etc! Its tough because they are obviously making these things cheap to reach a wider market, which is good, but the downside is its not as robust. I've got very robust kit now that I hope will last me a lifetime!