Easy Solar vs Multi RS Solar: Which Victron Product is Better for You?

[@matthewanderson2982]

I’ve been looking for info/reviews on the Multi RS Solar for a while now to potentially use on my off-grid shed-house. Thanks for the info. I look forward to more content on it. I’m interested to see how much PV and battery you install it with.

[@TheOffGridShop]

Thank you for the feedback. Yes in the new year you will see some fun with this one.

[@matthewanderson2982]

@@TheOffGridShop I would also be interested to know how noisy this unit is. I’ve been told the Multiplus II inverters can be loud under load?

[@energietechnik4138]

hello, I use a Multi Rs solar 1Tracker with an RS450/100tr and an SMA 3kW AC coupled PV inverter and it works perfectly. For storage, I use a 10kWh LTO energy storage. Greetings daniel

[@matthewanderson2982]

@@energietechnik4138Hi Daniel. Thanks for the info. How much solar do have in your system?

[@TheOffGridShop]

Which brand of LTO do you have?

[@provolutionnic3482]

What do you think is better in a overlander van 48v system? The multiplus ii 5000w or the rs solar? The rs solar is way less heavy so i wonder if there are any downsides

[@TheOffGridShop]

Very good question and yes. The down side to the rs6000 is the start up voltage of the Mppt is too high for 1 or two panels. So the Multipluss and an Mppt works better in that situation.

[@provolutionnic3482]

@ im Thinking about high voltage panels from wattstunde so 4 relativ small panels have 50+v each

[@TheOffGridShop]

@provolutionnic3482 can you fit a minimum of 4 of them?

[@provolutionnic3482]

@@TheOffGridShop why 4? The range is 80-450v when i read the datasheet correct? So 2 panels in series should work?

[@selbstdenkergegenmsm3812]

@@provolutionnic3482 the starter voltage is 120 V

[@marcoarpago]

Thank you for this video, I have one question regarding Multi RS, If there is enough sun and you have a load the inverter gets the energy directly from the panels or from the battery creating micro battery cycling ?

[@TheOffGridShop]

If the sun is shining that will power the inverter directly and any excess will go to the batteries to charge.

[@markbuitenwerf2000]

Can you charge your batterys with mains suply ? I mean charging without the solar panels

[@TheOffGridShop]

Yes you can use a generator.

[@TheOffGridShop]

And yes you can use the mains supply

[@marcoarpago]

Hi I have read that MULTI RS is not compatible with VE Bluetooth Smart Networking, how do you sync charge parameter if you have for example a SmartSolar charging in parallel the same battery ? Can you use CAN BUS and just daisy chain the 2 devices ?

[@TheOffGridShop]

We always use Cerbos in our system designs and use that to control everything..

[@dortegon]

When is Victron going to release these units for 120 VDC ?

[@TheOffGridShop]

No Idea, I am direct Victron dealer and in Australia they treat us like Mushrooms.

[@solarcannonballrun]

Same, I was thinking of adding a transformer to get 120. Since it will already do 240 60hz

[@marek_pl]

ES -II can have MP-II connected to it in parallel (up to 5 units) to increase the power for that phase.

[@TheOffGridShop]

Is this a question or a statement?

[@marek_pl]

@@TheOffGridShop In your video you say that it is not possible to connect ES-II i parallel. Es-II can be connected in parallel with MP-II. Unless your English is to fast for me. :)

[@TheOffGridShop]

@marek_pl Ah ok. Yes that was an issue when they 1st came out. This is an odk video there still is extra hardware required to do the bigger ones. This is how they solved whatever issue there used to be. When they were 1st released we couldn't parallel them. (8-15s)

[@solarcannonballrun]

Thanks, I really wanted to use the RS solar for my self contained solar Tesla setup last year but I could not get one in the US. I love that it could switch to 240v 60hz and only 11kg!

[@TheOffGridShop]

Thank you. Yeah they ate a good little unit. What did you end up doing?

[@solarcannonballrun]

​@TheOffGridShop I went with a 5k SolArk inverter and 6.4 kW solar array packed in the back of my car. Strange, my coments don't seem to be posting.

[@jimthvac100]

Trade off is they cannot handle heavy inductive loads. only the heavy inverters that use the low frequency switching technology can handle the heavy loads.

[@MichaelTwum-d5y]

I have one but I can't create account to charge the battery

[@TheOffGridShop]

What account are you trying to create? If it's for the RS all you require is the Victron connect app..

[@ThePonderi]

Is this a Low Frequency inverter?

[@TheOffGridShop]

The RS model is a Higher Frequency model .

[@jasonb5923]

Hello good video i was a bit confused about the 3 phases and that but all good my question is im building a house boat to fit about 4 people 1 fridge 1 freezer a 3.5kw split and all the other mod cons i do however what to keep it simple and not try to run everything at once we have limited roof space i was looking at a x2 5kw rack batteries but can only fit 4 jinko 475w panel's so with that in mind and no shore power what unit will do the job best. Thanks

[@TheOffGridShop]

I would look at an easy solar in your situation. Or a Multi plus and an 250/60 mppt. It your in. Australia look at the AIKO panels they are the most efficient available on the market right now. And have some great shading technology which could be handy on a boat.

[@graygray1960]

Hi. I am leaning towards a 48 or 24 volt system in my RV. However i have a 12 volt wheelchair lift in the RV. i would like to run off the new system so I figure I will need a 48/12 convertor for the lift and other 12 volt appliances. The lift "I think" pulls upto 65 amp (or maybe fused at 65 amp.) Can a convertor handle this kind of load. Or would i have to parrallel, (which wont be happening).

[@TheOffGridShop]

I would go the 48 volt yes and can you get a 240 -12v power supply is probably a better way to power that load. There are not many DC to DC converters that big.

[@TheOffGridShop]

Or if you really want to do it DC have a small lead acid battery thats topped up by the DC TO DC and the high current will come from the battery when needed.

[@jjdsi1972]

Hi Mike. Great video !! I have just recently purchased a multi RS solar with two trackers, but as soon as I installed it I received a high voltage output alarm alarm: 54 it is not allowing me to charge at all and the company I purchased it from suggested it is caused by low vantage on the battery, but it does not allow me to charge, is there any advice you can give me? I would really appreciate if I could maybe contact you guys and have a chat, thanks J J

[@TheOffGridShop]

What is your backup source? I would run the generator or put keep batteries charged on Ess and force a charge.

[@TheOffGridShop]

Let us know how you go. And also make sure all the finrware is upto date .

[@JR24-w3p]

Can this unit be run on AC input ONLY. I am building a 48v battery from scratch but wont receive the cells for a couple of months. I have plenty of solar and mppt right now but without a battery I guess pv input is useless.

[@TheOffGridShop]

No they require a battery to work. You could buy some second hand lead acid cells until your new ones arrive..

[@SuperRockmonkey]

Great comparison. Thank you. Question. Why can’t Australian use the ESS functionality for on grid applications? Any idea if this will be resolved at any stage. ?

[@TheOffGridShop]

Either the Australian network doesn't like Victron and Victron also has an arrogance towards the regulators. So customers lose out. It's making me use other products for our hybrid customers.

[@MichaelTwum-d5y]

How create account to control the inverter

[@TheOffGridShop]

App store Victron connect. Or go to the victron website and downloads page.

[@margarita8442]

good video darlinks

[@TheOffGridShop]

Thank you for the support..

[@malk6277]

Hey mate - enjoying your channel, thanks for all the detailed info. One suggestion - it might just be me, but it would help me if you slowed down, just enough to pronounce all your words fully. I lived in Australia for a long time and am used to hearing Aussie speech patterns, but when I'm a bit tired, I do find myself doubting whether I've guessed correctly a word you might have only half pronounced here and there. Thanks again!

[@TheOffGridShop]

Thank you appreciate the feedback and yes I talk fast. Let me know if the next few new videos are how I go. I am going to be putting my attention on it. I talk fast when I am excited! Lol. Thank you

[@banichulo100]

I dont Undestand Why victron doesnt6 Make a Split Phase all In one Inverter with all the bells and whstels like EG4S HIGH POWER 18 AND 12 KPV ...

[@TheOffGridShop]

Yeah they have been lazy in my opinion and it's very easy to do with 2 units if you know what your doing.

[@herbertvonsauerkrautunterh2513]

I'm going to decouple from the grid. Leave my grid connect system as it and then run my house off batteries. I have 20kw of rack mount batteries already and will be buying 6 more.. screw the time of day or demand metering and low feed in tariffs etc. that's fraud. I currently use an MPP inverter charger which is great and all in one but I need to upgrade to a low frequency inverter with of least 12kw. I would prefer something like an easysolar but more like a quattro with a 600v max solar charger built in. .

[@TheOffGridShop]

You can use www.getlocalvolts.com and sell your battery back at night and make some good $$$$. Which state are you located?

[@percival23]

Nobody but solar power veterans can understand what you are saying ...the video is pointless for rookies ..and that is not even getting into that you talk to fast.

[@haydenyoung88]

I disagree, im no solar veteran just doing my research and found this quite helpful. Its not a basic overview for sure but quite informative and ive never worked with solar systems before.

[@TheOffGridShop]

Thank you for the feedback. Yes I have been told I talk fast.

[@B-a_s-H]

Have to disagree too. As a non-native speaker of English I was perfectly able to understand what he said. Btw. did you know that YT video's have a speed-control?

[@bmartinot]

Speak for yourself.