Lectric XPremium Review: A Mid-Drive Ebike That's Actually Affordable!

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@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
Max torque is 140 Nm. Support Ebike Escape when purchasing from Lectric: lectricebikes.sjv.io/YgMaRm (affiliate link)
@iamdunker
@iamdunker 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a need to change the rear sprocket out so you can achieve the 28 mph without ghost pedaling like the OG?
@Macbob-j6f
@Macbob-j6f 2 жыл бұрын
Good review. I do own a Lectric XP 2.0 step thru and although I like the new Lectric X premium, I won't buy it for the following reasons: 1. It's s800 more than the XP 2.0 but not faster ( top speed). 2. Mid drive motors are much easier to damage the chain or the motor as they require shifting the gears, etc vs a hub motor which you can just leave in gear 7 and not shift. 3. I do like the larger frame but wish it had a hub 750 watt motor with peak of 1000 watt.
@SuperNewKittie
@SuperNewKittie 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this feedback.
@stlphotoandvideo
@stlphotoandvideo 2 жыл бұрын
I will have to agree. It's a huge jump in price for such a small mid drive motor. I do like the extra torque you get on the hills.
@petdoctor3
@petdoctor3 2 жыл бұрын
Speed is the same as all legal electric bikes, so that point is invalid. My first ebike was an XP 2.0, I just received my premium, the improvements are well worth the extra $800!!!!! But keep your XP 2.0, still a great bike.
@SGSlots95
@SGSlots95 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the 2.0 step through and i love it getting a great workout on hills and getting the speeds up to 20 mph on straightaways
@Altema22
@Altema22 2 жыл бұрын
This is a surprise, and also surprising that I had mentioned the name XPremium last week in a KZbin video comment about Lectric. They probably had the name long ago, but it would be funny if they got it from me. Regarding the bike, it is definitely a great value considering that it has hydraulic brakes, dual batteries, torque sensors, and a mid drive. 140nm of torque is nice, but remember that it's measured at the crank, and will be significantly less at the rear wheel because of gearing. The best hill climbing power is obtained by using the lowest gear that will allow you to maintain your desired speed. This is probably the hardest part of the learning curve, and I frequently see new mid drive riders roll backwards or fall off because they were in too tall of gear!
@susiewebb7552
@susiewebb7552 2 жыл бұрын
I had the handlebars flipped on my X Premium & I love it , it is so much less of a reach for me since my arms are short…. I would highly recommend this bike !!!!
@lahawk7410
@lahawk7410 Жыл бұрын
@@susiewebb7552 How tall are you, Susie? I'm considering this, but at 5' 1" I'm a bit shorter than they recommend. Good idea on flipping the handlebars as judging his reach/height it would be a stretch for me, which has always been a problem. I don't want to order it if it is going to be tall though.
@Elisplushies360woodierc
@Elisplushies360woodierc 2 жыл бұрын
Nice that Lectric now had options to choose from.Mid drive torque sensors are great for mountain biking because you don’t get that surge of power unexpectedly like a hub drive does that can throw you off if your not ready for it,but for road use I’ll stick with hub drive with cadence sensor.
@jamesnewsom5899
@jamesnewsom5899 2 жыл бұрын
Well said! I understand the need for a smooth unnoticeable power assist for mountain biking. But for street use, level bike trails, gravel and dirt, even easy mountain trails, I have found a combination of 750 W with a seven gear totally satisfactory. And I am happy that the drive train is not being stressed. What to speak of the money savings!
@ronb9901
@ronb9901 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear it can be unlocked for class 3 speeds! Look forward to that review/video.
@wesduff7075
@wesduff7075 2 жыл бұрын
All lectrics except lite can be
@jamesnewsom5899
@jamesnewsom5899 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review as usual. I guess if you want a folding bike with step thru, it is something to consider. I am totally stoked with my 52V Magicycle though. Mine can climb miles of hills like a beast. Put it in the proper gear with some pedal assist and it tackles any hill at 15-20mph. I still have not been impressed with mid drive bikes, especially with the extra wear on the drive train. I think mid drives really find their home on serious mountain biking, but for level street, gravel, dirt, and easy trails, rear motor covers all the bases for me.
@debstraub8437
@debstraub8437 2 жыл бұрын
Not really a fair comparison since the Magicycle is not a folding bike. And it weighs 73lbs. Almost as much as the XPremium!
@SCPVIDEOPRODUCTION
@SCPVIDEOPRODUCTION 2 жыл бұрын
The bike is much bigger than I thought, I got one charger for two batteries, the lights are weak, you really need to think about what your doing and adjust your gears when slowing down stopping climbing hills.
@johnh.miller1112
@johnh.miller1112 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I canceled my Sondors LX order due to non-delivery. The Lectric X Premium is the ebike that I’ve been waiting for!
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
Good choice!
@congerscott6064
@congerscott6064 2 жыл бұрын
I am getting one as soon as i can, i think it's one of the best electric bikes out there 👍🏆.
@jeankuper576
@jeankuper576 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the information on the xp premium! We have one and I love riding it better that my 2.0 step thru. The premium is such a comfortable ride. I love the mid motor drive. It changes so easy and the suspension on the forks make it a sweet ride for me. It’s my husbands bike . I will use his more I think. Thank you so much!❤️😀🖐
@lahawk7410
@lahawk7410 Жыл бұрын
How tall are you, Jean? I'm trying to decide what to purchase and I'm 5' 1" and I realize that this model is listed for 5' 2". I like the hydraulic disk brakes and mid drive motor, but other commentors said it was only necessary mountain biking. I expect to take this camping and ride in my home town. We are known for mountain biking trails but they are only for class 1 bikes. It would be easier to decide if I could test ride my contenders.
@bobwinter3161
@bobwinter3161 2 жыл бұрын
Please always clarify bike weight as with and without batteries installed. That information is very important for those who transport with actual bike racks. Thanks a bunch.
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
Good call - I'll cover that in our next video. 75 lbs with the batteries and I'll weigh it without. Guessing closer to 60 lbs.
@FrankLadd
@FrankLadd Жыл бұрын
I got the Lite for recreation and for taking along in my car on trips. When I downsize to one car I may get a premium to replace a car.
@bapanana1
@bapanana1 Жыл бұрын
Great review. thank you. Can you please add a link or let me know which brand bin you purchased to place the bike into when you folded it for the SUV?
@appye7994
@appye7994 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was odd he was climbing that hill in 3rd. I'd like to see what it would do in 1st or 2nd. I am thinking on either a bafang mid drive kit to ADD to my 2.0 or maybe getting this bike and giving my 2.0 to my daughter. I live in the mountains and the hills are just too steep to climb, even with a 11-34t freewheel and parallel batteries.
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
I'll do it in 1st gear in my follow-up video. I personally don't think it will make a big difference but happy to do it.
@Hoggdoc1946
@Hoggdoc1946 2 жыл бұрын
May I suggest when you are reviewing a mid drive e bike use the gears when doing the hill climb.
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
We plan to do another hill climb test.
@MrBothandNether
@MrBothandNether 2 жыл бұрын
@@EbikeEscape on full battery charge vs half
@turbofan450
@turbofan450 2 жыл бұрын
Question is just thought of. Maybe you can ask the guys at Lectric. I'm a big believer in charging to 80% to prolong battery life. On my current ebike, I can do this easily. I can see the battery voltage and and I know how much my charger inputs per hour. So I just use a timer. Now, you can use this method on the XP 2.0 since you are able to see the voltage. But on the XPremium, how will this work since there are 2 batteries that may have 2 very different voltage levels? Isn't the screen only set up to display voltage for one battery? How can I know the voltage of each individual battery to then be able to charge by timer?
@pedrofernandez8729
@pedrofernandez8729 2 жыл бұрын
If you want one, don't wait cause I am sure the price will go up to over 2 grand, this should quiet down any critics of the XP 2.0 and make Lectric better than RAD.
@specialist-in-tech
@specialist-in-tech 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. You crack yourself up with your little jokes, don’t you ? Better than Rad ain’t saying much, but no Lectric is barely a knat on the butt of that elephant called Rad.
@wesduff7075
@wesduff7075 2 жыл бұрын
Lectric has been better than RAD since day 1. I was in Seattle at RAD when I found lectric and left that crap behind too fast. Now they make RAD and most companies look like a joke
@tenncutt
@tenncutt Жыл бұрын
Funny thing is, months later, the price dropped to $1599! Just bought 2 of them. Good video
@patentexperts1675
@patentexperts1675 2 жыл бұрын
Does this Lectric X Premium come with: 1) the wide handle bars? 2) Will it run on only one battery? 3) Can you leave the key in it when driving it?
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
1. It comes with 25" wide handle bars 2. The XPremium will run with just the front battery 3. You can leave the keys in the batteries, but is isn't required to ride the bike.
@lazmotron
@lazmotron Жыл бұрын
So can this bike reach 28mph? If you are testing a pedelec ebike, we want to know the top speed while pedaling not the top speed with throttling. Throttling top speeds are more significant for hub motors. Anyway I bought this bike and I love this bike, and this is a great vide and a great ebike channel. Thank you.
@ronb9901
@ronb9901 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure if Lectric does this but you or they should let people know how long that tire sealant (slime) lasts in the wheel before it dries out. Here in Arizona I have to put it in my tubeless mountain bike tires every 2-4 months.
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
That's a good point Rob - I'll mention that in a follow up video. Thanks!
@jamesnewsom5899
@jamesnewsom5899 2 жыл бұрын
Switch to Flat Out. It does not dry out
@peacefulprepper2402
@peacefulprepper2402 2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling there may be some problems with this bike. It will also be harder to keep tuned. Torque sensor on the derailleur may get finicky. Hydro brakes harder to service. Lets see how it does over time. Lectric has done well so far.
@mattherndon9317
@mattherndon9317 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you shifting through the gears to get up that hill. By sticking in just 1 gear the whole way through you’re missing out on the main benefit of a mid drive.
@russellkanning
@russellkanning 2 жыл бұрын
yea I can't imagine starting out in 7th, when you have gears available even on the flat
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
I'll do another hill test - throttle only 1st gear and also go through the gears.
@mattherndon9317
@mattherndon9317 2 жыл бұрын
@@EbikeEscape sounds great. For best performance test the top throttle speed of each gear. Start in the lowest gear that hits the bikes top speed (maybe 5th) and as soon as your climb drops a bit below the top speed of the gear under that downshift.
@sedollee7496
@sedollee7496 2 жыл бұрын
@@EbikeEscape Thank you. I am a little nervous now. I may actually cancel my order if this bike can’t climb.
@cesarlomibao2662
@cesarlomibao2662 2 жыл бұрын
Going up the hill in 1 gear on a mid drive with low battery? Starting out on full throttle in the highest gear? Bad choices. There are lots of benefits with a mid drive motor during hill climbs and accelerating from a dead stop. The only draw back in my opinion from a mid drive is, in order to best utilize the benefits, you need to shift through the gears. As Matt pointed out, you are missing the benefits. You can even go up a steeper hill from a dead stop on throttle only as long as your in the lowest gear to utilize the mid drive torque. On a similar 500Wh hub motor, good luck! I own 2 hub drives and 2 mid drives. The hub drives have been collecting dust for quite some time. Anyway, I appreciate the review. I like easy access batteries.
@paulmartin5748
@paulmartin5748 2 жыл бұрын
Like your review. Just ordered a bike and told the co. That your review sold me.
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you - that certainly helps us out!
@cowboy10731
@cowboy10731 2 жыл бұрын
A BIG component of why such low speed uphill is due to voltage sag on the battery. I built my own battery for ebike build at 36v and yes im limited to 15mph due to 20in wheels and 20amp controller but the battery is able to output 150+ amps continuous so i see 20 amps uphill and no voltage sag even at 50% battery capacity... so this bike would benefit from battery flat pack cells with higher continuous output. the problem is that companies want beautiful looking bikes that look great but they are crap for function. i will be buying this bike and do a battery delete and using my own battery setup at 48v for my new pack ill build. that way i will have 48v with 40amp continuous output so the controller can always take max limit from the battery.
@cowboy10731
@cowboy10731 2 жыл бұрын
@@danimayb well like he said in the video after he was done with his uphill accent the battery gauge returned to full from the low spot on the gauge cluster. The motor isn't the problem nor the controller. It's the battery used. Yes they run in parallel but as we see that doesn't help much. Also because of the voltage sag observed, his reduced speed is limited because there just isn't enough power from the battery to push to the motor the 140nm of torque. Very possible it was only delivering 40 or 60nm of torque making it feel like a 250w nominal motor.
@someguyinflorida
@someguyinflorida 2 жыл бұрын
Off topic. What selfie-stick mount are you using for the 3rd person side views? I see the sticks shadow and what appears to be a large mount on the fork. Thanks!
@someguyinflorida
@someguyinflorida 2 жыл бұрын
Nevermind. I just watched your video on how you mount cameras and saw it was the RAM mount. Great vid!
@jackblah5842
@jackblah5842 Жыл бұрын
I love the mid-drive with torque sensor. This bike would be perfect if it had the same 150 lb. rack they added to the XP 3.0
@FriarPop
@FriarPop 2 жыл бұрын
Do fat people have to lock out the fork on this like the 2.0? or does the extra travel make it functional now, If so can i swap forks?
@MatthewPeel
@MatthewPeel 2 жыл бұрын
I hope they fix the battery bug in the energy bar. Going up the hill and seeing your battery level drop drastically would be concerning. Would like for it to show the actual battery levels.
@turbofan450
@turbofan450 2 жыл бұрын
It's not a bug. It's called voltage sag and it happens to all electric vehicles. It's just how they work. Once you're aware of it, it won't bother you.
@lesbell6059
@lesbell6059 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan - great review of the Lectric XPremium e-bike - thanks for the information, and I am following up with Lectric on warranty and support for me as a Canadian purchaser. I am also seeking out information on whether the Control Panel works in metric. So far, Lectric has responded in a timely manner, so that's encouraging.
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@ellismichael3885
@ellismichael3885 2 жыл бұрын
I pre ordered the XPremium and I was just told via email from Lectric that it comes with 2 batteries and ONE charger.
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing this out. We clarified it in our latest video!
@michaelsprinzeles4022
@michaelsprinzeles4022 2 жыл бұрын
When the speed drops on a mid-drive you need to down shift! Going down a gear while slogging up a hill may actually improve your speed.
@sedollee7496
@sedollee7496 2 жыл бұрын
Could you share more info? I have question regarding the uphill performance; how can a 140nm mid-drive not do better than the hub drive of the 2.0? Are you a mid-drive ebike owner?
@michaelsprinzeles4022
@michaelsprinzeles4022 2 жыл бұрын
@@sedollee7496 I've done 2 conversions, 4 and 5 years ago, with Bafang BBSxx mid-drives. I still ride both and have plans for a third. I stay up to date on my research even though the hill I live on precludes street legal hub drives. I'm not sure what you'd like me to explain. The XPremium does do better on hills than the 2.0. Because you have to downshift & the motor uses the bikes gears top speed is limited but the 500 watt mid-drive will climb for miles at the same speed, climbing hills that would overheat the 2.0. I'm not sure what the torque number is on either motor but it doesn't approach 140NM. The hub is probably no higher than 80 nm and the mid-drive definitely below 120 nm.
@sedollee7496
@sedollee7496 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelsprinzeles4022 Thank you for the valuable information. I think you cleared my doubt. Based on what I understand from your message, I guess even though the 2.0 may appear to have faster top speed than this new model, long hill climb would overheat the 2.0, versus this mid-drive model can still continue the ride. I think it is sufficient for me to make the decision.
@michaelsprinzeles4022
@michaelsprinzeles4022 2 жыл бұрын
@@sedollee7496 If you live in a mostly flat area and like to throttle without pedalling or changing gears a hub is easier and probably more reliable. If you live near large hills or like to pedal and don't mind shifting gears the mid-drive is better. If you intend to throttle around with a mid-drive you will do damage if you don't use the gears properly. With a mid-drive using the gears it should be possible to change the top speed by changing the gearing...a bigger chainring up front will boost top speed but lower climbing ability & a smaller gear in back will also raise top speed. Not sure what gear ratio the XPremium's freewheel is or if you can swap chain rings but if so you can make it climb better and give it a higher top speed. I think the XPremium ships as class 2 but can be unlocked for the same class 3 speeds as the 3.0 (20 mph on throttle and 28 pedaling). Good luck.
@turbofan450
@turbofan450 2 жыл бұрын
@@sedollee7496 the reason it didn't do better was simply due to the gear Ryan went up in. Higher gear, higher speed. Also, just note that the motor on the XPremium peaks at 800W
@scottk.9835
@scottk.9835 2 жыл бұрын
With only 7 miles on the odometer, why is the battery level low?
@wyattatkinson7322
@wyattatkinson7322 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome review!! thanks so much!! what kind of phone holder you have on there?
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
It is a Nite Ize Wraptor. Here is a link: amzn.to/3NitGpq (affiliate link)
@lazmotron
@lazmotron Жыл бұрын
This is the best bike ever. So powerful. I love it. Great video!
@suzanneribas3746
@suzanneribas3746 2 жыл бұрын
I am wondering.. I am a wimpy 64yr old lady that weighs 200 pounds. Which of the lectric foldable e bikes would you suggest for me? I live in a first floor street level apartment for now but dont think I would be able to carry a heavy foldable in an emergency, on the other hand i would like a bike that can accomodate my weight and has the neccessary motor strength to get me to work on a daily basis. What do you suggest?
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to give a direct answer without knowing where you live, and how long your daily trip would be. Here is a quick collection of information that might help you narrow it down. If you live in a fairly flat city, the XP Lite is going to be the easiest to lift, as it only weighs 46lbs. And range between 15-40 miles (depending on PAS level and throttle usage). If you live in a place with hills or want a little bit more range the XP 2.0 is going to be the choice, all be it with a bit more weight (64lbs). Range is 17-45 miles. Only reason I wouldn't recommend the XPremium is strictly about weight. At 75 lbs it is the beast of the bunch. However it is going to get you the most range (50-100 miles). I hope that insight helped a bit. Let me know if that helped or if you have any more specific questions. -JT
@jeffs.1864
@jeffs.1864 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review. I'm hoping to order my new x premium soon. This gave lots of detail about the bike.
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
No problem 👍
@toridas
@toridas 2 жыл бұрын
Really wish they offered the dual batteries with the hub motor
@suzanne202
@suzanne202 2 жыл бұрын
We just bought an extra battery for our original Lectric bikes we bought when the company first started years ago..
@owenoiffer
@owenoiffer 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a comparison video with the Rad Expand5 the XPremium seems to be a better choice and after upgrades the same or better price….
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, we hope to do a folding ebike roundup with the Expand 5, Sinch and the Lectric ebikes.
@gailjohnson6670
@gailjohnson6670 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video and honest review. Blessings to you.
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@jpjk061752
@jpjk061752 Жыл бұрын
Ryan, need your thought real quick. Just ordered 2 -XP3 , I put one on hold hoping for your thoughts on me getting the Premium. I'm used to driving a motorcycle so I'm thinking be a better fit. FYI I used Ebike Escape when ordering. I'll wait for hopefully your apinion.
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape Жыл бұрын
Hard to say, certainly you will understand better than the average person how a mid drive works vs a hub drive. My deciding factors would be: brakes, battery and whether you want a torque sensing motor vs cadence. Both are plenty powerful in my opinion.
@jpjk061752
@jpjk061752 Жыл бұрын
@@EbikeEscape Thank you.
@sedollee7496
@sedollee7496 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the detail review. I don’t understand how can a mid-drive not climb better than hub drive.
@banzaiburger9589
@banzaiburger9589 2 жыл бұрын
This is a deal breaker to me. I live on a steep street.
@sedollee7496
@sedollee7496 2 жыл бұрын
@@banzaiburger9589 I wish someone can answer. Because it seems strange if a 140nm torque mid-drive motor can’t do as well as a way less torque hub drive.
@sedollee7496
@sedollee7496 2 жыл бұрын
@@banzaiburger9589 I got an answer from another person here. He said hub motor may overheat for long hill ride versus mid-drive may be able to continue to climb. He suggested to down shift the gear.
@banzaiburger9589
@banzaiburger9589 2 жыл бұрын
@@sedollee7496 ahh interesting, thanks
@ronb9901
@ronb9901 2 жыл бұрын
As a side note to this discussion. If like the other Lectric models they’ve been using a 14-28 rear freewheel the first upgrade should be switching it out to a 11-34 freewheel so you’ll gain more climbing ability and MORE top end speed! Cost…$30-40
@marcuswelby921
@marcuswelby921 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your detailed review. Job well done!!!
@bababooeymonkey6549
@bababooeymonkey6549 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You, Marcus the nerd.
@thomasgeruntho3657
@thomasgeruntho3657 2 жыл бұрын
FYI, last I heard, the XPremium is shipping with only one charger and each battery must be charged independently, so the 4 to 6 hour charge time is actually 8 to 12 hours
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
You are correct
@12knots
@12knots 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, just kinda shopping around and am totally clueless about e-bikes. Kinda messed up charging system?
@TOURBON
@TOURBON 2 жыл бұрын
Your video is very well shot.
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@hharadon
@hharadon 2 жыл бұрын
Good review, and good tease for your future vid about the top speed.
@rexlion4510
@rexlion4510 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a good bike, the mid drive and price point appeal to me. Long range is great, too. The question in my mind is whether the small diameter wheels will be a detriment on rough trails, versus 26" wheels like on the Aventure or RadRover 6+ (the other top contenders on my personal list).
@pedrofernandez8729
@pedrofernandez8729 2 жыл бұрын
Before the lite was introduced, I had predicted that they would go upmarket, kind of got disappointed to see they had actually gone downmarket, but now I see my original prediction was correct. There is now an XP for all needs. Curious to see they went step thru, appealing to older riders and delivery needs.
@wesduff7075
@wesduff7075 2 жыл бұрын
Too many people complain about ST versions. I have put over 8k miles on my lectrics. I travel cross country and camp....which I wouldn't be able to carry near as much if it were not ST
@greggiordano3834
@greggiordano3834 2 жыл бұрын
You are doing loaded touring on your lectric ebike?
@wesduff7075
@wesduff7075 2 жыл бұрын
@@greggiordano3834 yes. And it's amazing and easy with 3 extra batteries. Over 9k miles at this point
@tb693ny6
@tb693ny6 2 жыл бұрын
pros and cons comparing mid drive and rear drive hubs? how's this compare to the espin nesta? component wise/quality? Do you feel the upgraded seat post/seat is worth the cost compared to buying the c9 seat/post upgrade?
@arkadykushnir3255
@arkadykushnir3255 2 жыл бұрын
Just wondering if bike could be ridden on flat area without electrical assistance? I live in hilly area but need bike to ecserersise riding it 5-10 miles on flat area. Coming back is a problem, as after workout I cannot go all the way to the hill. This why I'm looking for electric bike.. Any suggestions?
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
It can be, but it will be a bit of a workout as it's a heavy bike. The nice thing is the mid-drive will offer a bit more of a natural experience that it seems you're looking for.
@ecoman351
@ecoman351 2 жыл бұрын
this will dominate the market and calm prices down on other brands
@FriarPop
@FriarPop 2 жыл бұрын
its nearly $2k, not gonna dominate anything at that price. They needed to get it out the door for $1500, the extra shark battery should have been an extra option, bet that cost $300, not everyone needs 100 miles, but want the upgraded suspension, and middrive and brakes.
@ecoman351
@ecoman351 2 жыл бұрын
@@FriarPop watch the sales numbers
@FriarPop
@FriarPop 2 жыл бұрын
@@ecoman351 what does that even mean? relative to what? the xp 2.0 is still gonna be their cash cow when you can basically buy 2 for the price of 1 premium.
@danielalvarez1078
@danielalvarez1078 Жыл бұрын
X Premium vs 3.0… which one to get?
@TimAlcoser
@TimAlcoser 2 жыл бұрын
I'm assuming you didn't charge the bike before the test rides? The battery seemed to deplete much quicker than my XP.
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
Our rear battery was actually not working during this review - I missed removing some tape.
@adamheeley285
@adamheeley285 Жыл бұрын
I hope those tires are puncture resistant. They look a bit thin from the video but it is really hard to tell.
@cleverestx
@cleverestx 2 жыл бұрын
The unfoldable triangle mount-stand on the bottom center concerns me, it looks like a major and scary SNAG hazard. Thoughts?
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
The stand is a very similar design that we have seen on a number of other folding bikes. With that said, we have never had an issue with snagging on anything. As long as you are aware of the stand is there, it shouldn't be an issue on traditional roadways or bike paths.
@jamesnewsom5899
@jamesnewsom5899 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it is dangerous! Check out Goneagain. His wife broke an ankle because that fixed stand got hung up and threw her off. He recommends cutting that piece off if you get a bike like this.
@danielbohland5271
@danielbohland5271 2 жыл бұрын
Well might have dual batteries but didn't seem like much of a Powerhouse going up over the hills but that being said I think I'll go with the Vituvia SF 20 better bang for the buck bigger motor
@bababooeymonkey6549
@bababooeymonkey6549 2 жыл бұрын
or maybe just lose weight. put down the cookie.
@noahcasino
@noahcasino 2 жыл бұрын
damn, I just got a RadExpand 5, and I LOVE it, but this woulda been awesome to get
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting! RadExpand is a great ebike as well.
@jimwortham8634
@jimwortham8634 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for long long review appreciate wish you had got to some of the more serious things top speed battery life how far it'll go these things matter
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
We just launched our top speed test video and will follow up with more videos soon!
@OGBandit1
@OGBandit1 Жыл бұрын
I wish they would do smaller tires. 3in would be more than sufficient.
@tripperelectricbikes710
@tripperelectricbikes710 2 жыл бұрын
The tote is a great idea👍
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Makes transportation a whole lot easier.
@timmiller4979
@timmiller4979 Жыл бұрын
How does this mid drive hub compared to the Aventon 2 torque sensor. Thanks Tim
@johnmealey971
@johnmealey971 2 жыл бұрын
Ok Ok... You guys get me some new better controllers for the OG XP next ok!
@megancampbell3914
@megancampbell3914 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this was a very thorough and helpful review. Much appreciated. Do you ever ride without any pedal assist?
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
Occasionally we do. But as we have found, ebikes with larger tires take a bit more to get moving. So we tend to just turn down the pedal assist rather then turn it fully off. -JT
@KindCreature1
@KindCreature1 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!! You speak very well.
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@leeinwis
@leeinwis 9 ай бұрын
First pothole broke my folding front on my XP gen 1
@appye7994
@appye7994 2 жыл бұрын
I keep seeing comments about voltage sag. What about shifting gears lower? Everyone is focusing his THIRD GEAR climb of a steep hill. It's a mid drive that utilizes the gearset. I am really looking at this thing, but I want to see that it will climb better than that in lower gears.
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
In a follow up video I'll do the same hill in first gear. To be honest I don't think it will make much of a difference but I'm happy to be proven wrong.
@appye7994
@appye7994 2 жыл бұрын
@@EbikeEscape Well I would think first AND second gear! I just know that the motor was slowing down so it might have benefited from a lighter gear and sped up a little. In first gear, it might wind out before hitting 10mph ... maybe? I guess I'm more interested in how this bike does in the lowest gears climbing hills that the 2.0 can't climb on its own. I live in the mountains and have found that there are many hills that become way too hard to climb with my 2.0.
@edge9596
@edge9596 2 жыл бұрын
I was the first one to pre-order the X-Premium. I upgraded my XP 2.0 order when the pre-order for the new X-Premium was first announced! I upgraded and paid in full for the X-Premium black (with accessories). Waited since April, they said it will be delivered early June. Waited and waited, then before June, they informed me that it will be delayed till July. Mid July came and there's still no information which is frustrating. 23rd of July, the bike came but it's a wrong color!!! They sent me white! After waiting for many months, I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT THEY SENT ME THE WRONG COLOR! Now, I don't know how looong will I wait again to have it replaced with the right one!!! What's happening LECTRIC???!!!
@jackblah5842
@jackblah5842 Жыл бұрын
27:00 doesn't the "current" setting tell you how much power you are drawing?
@skepticsr_us
@skepticsr_us 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great detailed review. Does the cruise control adjust the amount of power from the motor when you up or down a hill so the speed remains the same?
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
This is being added to out list of things to try out. We will try and answer this in our next XPremium video. -JT
@kevinnashskitchen3517
@kevinnashskitchen3517 2 жыл бұрын
Those stands hanging down bug me. I think those should fold up out of the way
@chrisnorris3641
@chrisnorris3641 2 жыл бұрын
As I see it, it looks like some kind of handle to roll the bike after folding it. Could also double as a stand for when you're working on a tire, but I agree, should fold.
@OGBandit1
@OGBandit1 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was a motor safety bar, to stop people from bashing the motor and controller. I definitely don't like it. I'd probably end up chopping it off.
@kevinnashskitchen3517
@kevinnashskitchen3517 Жыл бұрын
@@OGBandit1 right.. Just use a block of wood or something
@wesduff7075
@wesduff7075 2 жыл бұрын
So...would you prefer this or the 2.0? Cross country here over 8k miles on ST. Looking for next bike now
@elmervialpando9343
@elmervialpando9343 Жыл бұрын
How will this bike ride in the snow
@MrFifth-up9jz
@MrFifth-up9jz 2 жыл бұрын
Question for you, I just ordered the 2.0 last night, I’m older, have not been riding for couple of years (used to ride a Giant 29er) after slipped disk. I’m looking for something I can just enjoy riding very easy trails, gravel, dirt and road. Do you think the premium is maybe more than I need? I don’t see myself in PAS 1 or 2 anytime soon, need to get in shape first. Great review, was happy to see that they sent bike to you first, your reviews helped me decide on the 2.0!
@peterpanini7877
@peterpanini7877 2 жыл бұрын
i rid the bagi which is a folding. i use pas 1 or pas 2 all the time because i'm on flats and it takes off. the higher the pas, the more the speed. the beauty of these folders is if you have any joint pains etc., you sit more like you did as a kid on a bike rather than hunched or leaning forward on a 10 speed or even a mountain bike flat bar. i would just use it first on flat and pavement when you get started and adjust the seat height and then moderate into gavel and dirt. you should be fine with the disc. just be sure not to stop if you need too and keep your hamstrings loose.
@f42un84u
@f42un84u 2 жыл бұрын
Yes the Premium mid drive is too heavy, more maintenance, and overpowered for casual riding. 2.0 excelent choice for 20-30 mile rides. Hope it was step thru. Really easier mount/dis-mount. Set tires to 25lbs off road. 35lbs on road. Set forks to unlocked and preload to soft for off road. Lock forks for on road. Get seat height set at bike shop or by biker. Try bike in less congested areas for a month or 200 miles. If you don't like it sell it. Holds value. If you do not need folding bike Look at Rideoneup or Aventon bikes for better quality. Have bike shop assemble. If you want to keep XP, Have bike shop add If needed rear mirror, suspension seat post, 11-32 free wheel, suspension seat, fame guard, water bottle holders, softer grips, phone holder, rear bag, etc. No worries, you have options. I find 2.0 great starter e-bike. Bought for folding feature. Otherwise better bikes. Super easy to ride. PAS 5 is nothing to fear. I was amatuer road biker, motocross rider, and bike packer. Been riding 50 years.
@ggebhard1
@ggebhard1 2 жыл бұрын
@@f42un84u good advice! I’m older, too, so I took what you said, to heart. I’m sad that the 3rd versions of these companies are going to mid drive motors. I want all the upgrades of these newer bikes, but on the hub drive bike. I’m a very active 71 yr old woman with chronic pain and I’d love a foldable, 20x4” tires, 500 or 750 watt motor, dual batteries, hydraulic brakes and dual shock on a bike with a hub motor. I have a teardrop camper with no back bumper, so I need a foldable. Any suggestions?? Thank you!
@toad6884
@toad6884 Жыл бұрын
Any chance of getting a short video of a Lectric XPremium with a support seat? I'd love to know what the contact points are for someone about 6'. Thanks
@donchurchill8177
@donchurchill8177 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the reviews that you do on the E bikes. I noticed that the maximum speed on the snap bike going up the hill was about 17 mph whereas the maximum speed on the electric X premium came down to about 9 mph. Any observation on this. Since the X premium cost about $300 more I would’ve thought that it would’ve had a little bit more consistent speed. I’ll be interested in your opinion.
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
The Snapcycle is super powerful. We'll do another hill climb on the XPremium sometime soon but just generally that bike will be happier climbing long steep hills since it's utilizing a lower gear. And since the mid-drives pull the drivetrain companies have to be careful to make sure they aren't going to rip through drivetrains. So think about the pedaling experience on each if you're comparing them unless you want the fastest bike up a hill of course.
@patrickmiao1698
@patrickmiao1698 2 жыл бұрын
I have the original XP, which I customized. Great bike, love the way it looks. Don't really like the way this one looks. Also a middrive doesn't really work for me because of all the sudden stops I have to do living in NYC.
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
We completely agree. The Mid-Drive is not going to be for everyone's use case. Glad to hear that the XP is still going stong. -JT
@marinct3176
@marinct3176 2 жыл бұрын
Just ordered the bike using your affiliated link. Thank you for the video.
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@andrewneven6816
@andrewneven6816 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting that you did the hill climb test in 3rd gear. Normally we would expect a mid-drive bike to climb faster in the lower gears. Was 3rd gear faster than 1st and 2nd when climbing this hill?
@monkeycdo1
@monkeycdo1 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan, Can you redo the throttle only hill climb test in the lowest gear so that we can get a better idea of what the bike is capable of?
@SnuffyB123
@SnuffyB123 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review/ Great detail, Thanks
@gregsletager482
@gregsletager482 2 жыл бұрын
Do both batteries charge from the single external port?
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
No they do not. Each battery is charged from their own ports. Lectric also includes 2 chargers, so you can charge both batteries at the same time.
@Dustinrhoades
@Dustinrhoades 2 жыл бұрын
I’m 5’ 11” with a 32” inseam… think this bike will fit me? Thanks again for all the helpful reviews!
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it should. Ryan has a similar inseam, and the XPremium fits him nicely.
@Dustinrhoades
@Dustinrhoades 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@banzaiburger9589
@banzaiburger9589 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know, if range was your primary concern, you'd be better off buying a 2.0 and 2 extra batteries.
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
That's a fair point Danny. I think some prefer the mid-drive riding experience though. Plus the hydraulic brakes are a nice upgrade.
@kevinnashskitchen3517
@kevinnashskitchen3517 2 жыл бұрын
Very good job 👍 I like the format of the test.
@peterpanini7877
@peterpanini7877 2 жыл бұрын
i have a bagi which is nice. but, thinking about a second bike. i like step through and upright and thinking about liking water resistant and for using for hunting/fishing and all around use and maybe commuting and hauling some gear in a trailer. aventure vs rad rover 6 vs lectric xp premium? any thoughts?
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
If you are primarily going to be riding offroad were ground clearance and grip are going to be key, I think you should go with either the Aventure or Rad. The Aventure does offer the largest peak power motor, which I think will lend a nice hand to hauling a trailer. But it is hard to beat the reliability of a Rad power bike.
@peterpanini7877
@peterpanini7877 2 жыл бұрын
@@EbikeEscape thanks so much
@turbofan450
@turbofan450 2 жыл бұрын
ok... now Rad Power Bikes HAS to offer mid drive bikes. I'll be in the market within a year or two. Rad better be ready.
@Altema22
@Altema22 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure Rad will go that way, as mid drives are less reliable, and this one in particular is weaker than Rad's 750 watt motors. 0 to 20mph for the XPremium is 14.3 seconds, a Rad Mini step through does it in 9.8 seconds.
@turbofan450
@turbofan450 2 жыл бұрын
@@Altema22 mid drives are only less reliable of you don't operate them properly. And the motor on the XPremium peaks at 800 Watts compared to the 750W peak on Rad's motors. Not to mention, a mid drive has higher torque than a hub. Acceleration to top speed is neither here nor there. The mid drive will achieve higher top speeds and hold them while using less energy. Mark my words: Rad will develop a mid drive.
@timothyherman8732
@timothyherman8732 2 жыл бұрын
What tote did you use for the XPremium and where can I get one?
@SuperNewKittie
@SuperNewKittie 2 жыл бұрын
So, with the dual batteries, I assume they will both need to be replaced at the same time when they've reached the end of life? I am so interested in the mid-drive motor which I am struggling to find in other ebikes, but also trying to think ahead about the expense of keeping the bike operational. I do not know what my future holds, but I am thinking ahead about the possibility of not being able to afford to replace both of them at the same time.
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
That would be my assumption unless you opt to not use the rear battery all the time. You may also want to check out the Prodigy - we did a review.
@billclark8241
@billclark8241 2 жыл бұрын
Anybody know why they went back to the 4-in tires instead of sticking with the 3 in?
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
I think it just depends on the use case. Some people like the wider tires for more off-road capability, others like 3" or even thinner. Both provide some extra cushion. I personally would have been happy to see the same 3" tires.
@sarawhittley201
@sarawhittley201 2 жыл бұрын
When are the chain guards
@gordjohnson70
@gordjohnson70 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats. You took my double battery idea. Cruise control is a great idea. If you make a candance sensor model, I'd buy one.
@turbofan450
@turbofan450 2 жыл бұрын
Yea. Torque sensors are usually presented as being better but honestly it sounds like all it does is make the rider have to work harder. I mean, the manufacturer has to set the ratio of how much power is given for how much force you pedal with. What if its set to make me work harder than I want? I didn't get an ebike to work hard. It's hard to say cuz I've never riden a torque sensor ebike.
@mattherndon9317
@mattherndon9317 2 жыл бұрын
@@turbofan450 I’ve ridden both types and there’s not a ton of difference, but I like the torque more. If I’m riding slowly up a hill behind some walkers the torque sensor makes it easy to creep up slowly, it also adds assist faster from a stop and lets me cut assist without braking almost instantly. If I want to save my legs the throttle is always there.
@debstraub8437
@debstraub8437 2 жыл бұрын
@@turbofan450 I have a Specialized Como and the torque sensor doesn't make me work harder than I want to. I just shift down to an easier gear. Pedal assist still works just as well even if I'm not pressing on the pedals as hard. Maybe it has a speed or cadence sensor to help decide how much to assist.
@debstraub8437
@debstraub8437 2 жыл бұрын
@@turbofan450 I forgot to mention... you can also just increase the pedal assist level.
@MichaelBoatmon
@MichaelBoatmon 8 ай бұрын
What is the biggest battery I can buy for this bike,under the seat
@TheLatinferno
@TheLatinferno 2 жыл бұрын
How many amps is the controller?
@TheRealDlo
@TheRealDlo 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Rad Mini 4 and I'm looking for more power for hill. Maybe a little more range. How does this compare?
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
With the dual batteries and the torque sensor mid-drive you will surely get more range (more efficient riding). You get all the gears on the hill though you should watch our RadMini review to compare these side by side on the hill.
@thetoolmat8632
@thetoolmat8632 2 жыл бұрын
Can the rear battery be replaced with a larger one, and still function in sync with the front one? ( looking for more ah)
@sherrybeavers8585
@sherrybeavers8585 Жыл бұрын
Great review
@giefaankim
@giefaankim 2 жыл бұрын
Great reviews~ How would you compare this 1v1 against the Rad Expand5?
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks - the mid-drive is a completely different experience. I'd start there and then look at the other features depending on what you need (suspension, battery capacity, weight etc.)
@FrankLadd
@FrankLadd Жыл бұрын
Where did you get that great hi vis jacket for riding?
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape Жыл бұрын
It is from Shower's Pass. It is their Refuge Jacket. Here is link: bit.ly/3p5OZjn (affiliate link)
@racrx7
@racrx7 2 жыл бұрын
Ordered one thru your affiliate link 👍🏻
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you - I appreciate it!
@orvjudd1383
@orvjudd1383 2 жыл бұрын
Is the “ Black” color black or “ Midnight Blue”?
@EbikeEscape
@EbikeEscape 2 жыл бұрын
That I do not know
@dark_winter8238
@dark_winter8238 2 жыл бұрын
The stand for when it's folded scares me. Looks like it could easily get caught while riding.
@johntalbert8227
@johntalbert8227 2 жыл бұрын
A youtubers wife had that happen to her, she broke her ankle. Her husband cut it off, the stand not her ankle!
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