EBRC Jaguar | Is it really the successor of the legendary AML, ERC 90 and AMX 10 RC?

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[@pandaDotDragon]

Everyone was bitching in the past about the Caesar, that its concept was non sense, etc. Now with the war in Ukraine the same people has to find a new subject. Enters the Jaguar.

[@CROM-on1bz]

To answer some of your questions or queries I would say that we do not fire an Akeron missile on a Toyota pick up but rather a 40mm HE shell the Akeron missile is reserved against heavy armored vehicles like M1 Abrams, T-72 80 90 or 14 Armata, as for the lack of a coaxial machine gun it is useless thanks to the independent turret armed with a 7.62mm. As for the operation of the 40mm cannon and its shells and well contrary to what you say it has already done test campaigns in Africa. Once again it is not an MBT but a reconnaissance and auxiliary combat vehicle effective against all armored vehicles and intended to support, illuminate and fight with the new generation Leclerc. The Scorpion collaborative combat system is not limited to army vehicles but is also connected to the RafaleStandard F3 and F4 and surely to the F5, it can also be connected to the missile frigates of the French Navy for the launch of SCALP NG missiles. Thanks for your video although a little incomplete, but that's normal the vehicle is still new. Un like obviously.👍

[@marcpaulus6291]

Why do you enclude a vehicle that literally only exist within nor even a handfull prototypes and hasnt even shown up in the ukrainian war?

[@FinTomTom]

@@marcpaulus6291 there are more build Jaguars than Swedish Archers?

[@CROM-on1bz]

@@marcpaulus6291 If I'm not mistaken, it's 133 Jaguars built out of the 350 or so that should be delivered, 133 is already a big handful and in Ukraine they are sending AMX 10RCs and ERc Sagaie (although for the Sagaie it hasn't been delivered yet I think). In any case the data is quite complicated to have, the French state remains extremely discreet about its deliveries... Unlike others who inform the media, therefore the Russians.

[@HanSolo__]

@@marcpaulus6291 😆

[@lukejackson1575]

Thanks for your comment! How well do you think the Jaguar would perform in the muddy and swampy terrain of Eastern Europe? I've seen videos of MT-LBs basically swimming through fields of mud in Ukraine during the wet season, and there are many examples of vehicles getting stuck and abandoned. Do you think this vehicle was intended more for the arid conditions of Africa?

[@HanSolo__]

Jaguar is a wet dream of any recon unit around the world.

[@gusgone4527]

Not so much actually but sales will prove the point. Other than in shit hole thitd world countries of Africa etc. The recon role has taken on new meaning. ELINT is probably just as important or evem more important than the traditional observe and report. Hence recon vehicles for modern near peer conflicts all have receiver masts and/or tethered drones to passively collect data. It could be as varied as triangulating the location of drone operators OR detecting EM emissions from vehicle engine management systems. Use your imagination. If you can think of it, someone much cleverer has already implimented it. The state of the art recon vehicles are packed with electronics to process, decript and diseminate data over a secure multi-domain network. Using all manner of classified systems. The processing power of the systems are very impressive. Trust me on that. The power and cooling requirements are just as demanding. All while remaining undetectable.

[@CyrilleJauffret]

La même tourelle sur un vbci Booster et on avait la même chose

[@unnainconnu9098]

@@gusgone4527 I think the Jaguar has to fill the role of both the HMMWV (or JLTV) and the M3 Bradley. Armoured reconnaissance isn't just "observe and report".

[@AlphaConde-qy7vi]

@@gusgone4527 ELINT is important but as the Ukrainian conflict continues to show, you are screwed when the enemy jams your systems. You still need several human echelons in the loop.

[@Statueshop297]

It’s a great recon vehicle. Light, sneaky and well armed

[@Flying-spaghetto]

This Jaguar is technically a real masterpiece, impressive !

[@attilaabonyi8879]

This is a beutiful vehicle, hope it will perform well in it's task, vive la france Love from hungary

[@VoltaireVoltaire-zq4zh]

Excellent video that summarises well the interest and limits of this new vehicle. Some responses to the criticisms have been well provided by other contributors. The 40mm gun is sufficient to address most threats including IFVs and APCs; the Ukraine war has shown that, on a large front, heavy armors are not the most important issues, and the few AKERON missiles available are sufficient to deal with them. What is rightly pointed out however is the relatively small ammunition capacity, this may present a problem is a high end engagement. The drone threat is admittedly a real problem, and no current vehicle as a perfect solution. The 40mm gun is now used in a rapid fire CIWS system for the navy against drone, so one can assume this is a useful asset against medium size drones if the very good detection system extends to the air environment as well (even if 45° elevation is a bit short); one ca assume this will be completed by jamming equipment in the future. I think the cost factor has been fairly well taken in to account, particularly as Africa is less and less a target customer for France, which is reorienting its export strategy to higher income countries. The 40mm gun and shells are shared with the UK and likely to be used in an increasing number of platforms, including at sea, so cost per unit should go down. Finally, he vehicle is compatible with France's military tactics which, since mid-WWII, has been focused on speed and concentrated forces over a narrow field. It has demonstrated its efficiency over and over. if you take Ukraine as an example, clearly this is not a unit to use in static defense, but think of its usefulness and impact in the Kursk offensive for example.

[@marc9080]

nous ne sommes pas en guerre en France! il faut arrêter de se masturber les méninges, de plus comme l'amx 10 rc ils sont appelés à être moderniser! ils sont déjà à la pointe! la majorité des intervenants ne connait pas l'armée française et ses doctrine! dommage.

[@habahan4257]

Thanks for the video. Love your point of view.

[@lucaj8131]

You say around 10:30 that the 40 mm canon and its specialized AA rounds aren't "the ultimate solution and cannot deal with UAVs alone". Would you care to explain? You don't really give any arguments on this while the rest of the criticism is quite properly argued. You see I'm a bit skeptical because Thales just recently announced the integration of the cannon into the Rapidfire system especially designed to do air defense on land and sea platforms and is especially designed to be suitable for drone attacks.

[@WeaponDetective]

Anti-drone warfare requires levelled defence. A gun is efficient at only one level. It should be supported by missiles depending on the drone's altitude. Also, although 45-degree is a good elevation angle for a vehicle's gun, it is ineffective against diving drones from a higher angle. So, according to our analysis, it is not the ultimate solution and cannot deal with UAVs alone.

[@lucaj8131]

@@WeaponDetective Thanks for responding so quickly! I agree that 45 degrees can be limited against some threats however I doubt we should expect every new land vehicle (tanks, IFVs etc) to have AA missiles in addition to its main armament for drone defense...

[@mosesracal6758]

@@WeaponDetective I agree, hell even the development of an expensive round for anti-drone use is stupid because the main advantage drones have is not only that its small but its because its cheap to mass produce. 40mm for anti-drone work is way too big imo. If they really wanted to take the drone threat seriously, a better HMG round or a better RCWS that functions like an APS would be better.

[@lukejackson1575]

@@lucaj8131 I would suggest also that the 180 round capacity may present problems when you have to deal with numerous ground threats and then aerial threats on top of that, especially when the aerial threats are in some cases cheaper than the 40mm rounds. I don't believe this will be a big deal, but to play devils advocate...

[@lukejackson1575]

@@mosesracal6758 Maybe the 40mm rounds are not be intended for use against every quadcopter Recon drone, but rather larger recon and loitering munitions. These tend to be much more costly and sophisticated, and limited in numbers.

[@sebastienpetrein5541]

Nowadays, most platforms aren't to be used isolated but by being part of a "system of systems". Analyzing the Jaguar without the VBCI, Leclerc, Griffon and theirs interactions with the infantry and the aerial forces makes it impossible to have a good grasp on the situation

[@stevestruthers6180]

As usual, you deliver an excellent analysis, covering all the important points and more. To my way of thinking, the Jaguar EBRC seems more like a pure armoured reconnaissance vehicle than an armoured cavalry platform like the AMX-10RC was. The AMX-10, despite its age, probably works better for recce taskings that may involve some infantry fire support and anti-armour situations, while the Jaguar seems better suited for classical sneak-and-peek reconnaissance, where the goal is not to directly engage the enemy, but to detect them without being detected, and maintain continuous contact while relaying information about the enemy and their movements to headquarters units. The lack of a coaxial machine gun, and limited stores of 40mm CTAS ammunition definitely limits the Jaguar's ability to provide infantry fire support. Against infantry out in the open supported by wheeled or tracked infantry fighting vehicles with limited or no anti-tank or anti-armour capabilities, a Jaguar with its 40mm main gun could probably provide some degree of fire support and do alright. Although as you correctly point out, the 40mm CTAS system is overkill against light infantry units. But if enemy tanks are present, or they suddenly show up on the battlefield, then a Jaguar crew's job will become magnitudes more difficult. The two ATGMs that the Jaguar can carry are basically last-resort weapon systems, essentially there for defensive rather than offensive purposes. Another problem I see with the Jaguar is its size. It's big and thus relatively easy to detect. The ideal recce vehicle is something that is small and speedy, like the German/Dutch Fennek armoured car. Hard to see and therefore hit. To be effective, Jaguar crews will have to rely on carefully selected defilades and other use of terrain to conceal their position and thus compensate for the size and height of the vehicle. I agree that in a full-scale war, the Jaguar would have limited utility. In such a scenario, it would probably be best employed for classical reconnaissance, patrol, and surveillance taskings. However, that said, the Jaguar is a very interesting armoured vehicle and quite technologically advanced.

[@gregs7562]

The UK should look to these wheeled vehicles to provide reconnaissance for the upcoming Boxer equipped regiments. Keep the tracked Ajax for the C2 units.

[@stevestruthers6180]

The UK could probably simplify things by having the Australians make some of their recently adopted Combat Reconnaissance Vehicles (CRV) for the UK that use Boxer hulls with a Rheinmetall Lance mounting a 30mm cannon.

[@Hawkeye6941]

I want this in war thunder already for the French. There are a lot of unique vehicles that the French use that I want in it

[@SuperAlfa1970]

The EBRC Wildcat of Battlefield 2042

[@jurgenmuller143]

I am a bit sceptical how this huge and high silhouette would work in a European setting. In Sub Sahara or desert it might be different. Would really be nice to hear the opinion from the soldiers working with it every day. Germany went a different way with the Fennek, being small and stealthy and using a mast mounted optical system for an elevated view.

[@nicolaspeigne1429]

you prepare for the wars you wage, those kinds of recon vehicle are the most easily and likely to be deployed, and unlike Germany France has still plenty of interests all over the world, with much different landscapes than central Europe

[@Fabio-om4kb]

Dans le même style que leurs Tigre! 😂 d'une laideur sans nom.

[@unnainconnu9098]

The Fennek is designed to engage less armored vehicles thus it has no autocannon.

[@marccouasnon6973]

Ceci est intéressant, néanmoins, il y a un petit problème, dans ce que vous dites ! Vous dites que le Jaguar, fait parti du programme « SCORPION » Programme, qui disparaitra dans les années 2040, pour faire place au programme Titan) Hors ce programme est basé sur l’information et surtout sur le combat « collaboratif » et engage non seulement le Jaguar, mais aussi le Serval, le Griffon, le Leclerc, les force terrestres l’aviation et même au besoin selon l’emplacement la marine ! Et par la suite vous donnez des défauts certes exacts, mais a ceci prêt qu’il ne sera que très rarement isolé. Je rajouterais que la queue du Jaguar est un dard de Scorpion !

[@13thravenpurple94]

Awesome video! Much appreciated 💜

[@td6460]

In the case of optics and satellite link being destroyed, could a vehicle with inertial navigation trace its route back while blind?

[@Sir_Godz]

thats the idea i think

[@MadManchou]

Or, you know, a paper map and compass

[@romain6275]

Yes. It's like a GPS, minus the satellite

[@UnderTheBanner]

Francuska szkoła budowy kołowych pojazdów.

[@ElaniMoonstaf]

Awesome video! 👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@Dave.Barlow]

Looks a lot like a successor to the Panhard AML, which is awesome

[@michaelmulligan0]

Really it’s only disadvantages are it’s massive size and ability to engage UAVs (although hopefully that could be solved with upgrades)

[@abraham2172]

It is pretty well equipped against drones compared to other military vehicles though, much better than most I would say except the specialized anti air vehicles that are slowly coming back again.

[@duffy6851]

With a new generation platform, it's incredible that it doesn't have an active protection system. I know that they are expensive, but regardless if you're in africa or Ukraine, it would help enormously with the survivability of the vehicle. Protection against just 14.5mm Ammunition is OK, but what about cheap rockets and missiles?

[@Thegaming_husky]

It's likely capable of being equipped with one. Like the cv90 and Bradley can be.

[@jgw9990]

​@@Thegaming_huskycan be isn't will be though. It's irrelevant. France could just buy a better vehicle as well.

[@vivientouzeau6850]

There is an active protection system tested by the french army (the "diamant or diamond), right now, but not sure if the french army will really have the monney to buy it.

[@lucaj8131]

France is developing its own APS which would equip all its vehicles in the future, but it will get it eventually.

[@siretriste4045]

It can be fitted an active protection system. Funding will come with the fight, if it ever get to this point

[@well-blazeredman6187]

Jaguar is French for ........ Saladin. Very impressive electronics. Good video. Enjoying your output.

[@BruneSixtine]

saladin ?

[@well-blazeredman6187]

@BruneSixtine The six-wheeled FV601 Alvis Saladin.

[@michaelmulligan0]

11:48 no it doesn’t, it can use 40mm instead of missiles and if necessary the RWS instead of the 40mm

[@pommiergabriel1463]

Je pense que le châssis de l'AMX 10 RC aurait été une plateforme bien moins coûteuse et surtout bien plus stable.

[@ChristopherSloane]

I'm surprised at the low round count the round seems rather small.

[@ahmadloai2378]

The vehicle is cool but I cannot imagine the nightmare of driving this in Eastern Europe Plains in winter and dealing with the muddy ground over there

[@CROM-on1bz]

The French army is primarily defensive and Western and Central Europe have the densest road networks in the world, so a motorway, road or path is never far away and a 6X6 often goes where a heavier armoured vehicle cannot, due to ground pressure.

[@jonny2954]

@CROM-on1bz "6X6 often goes where a heavier armoured vehicle cannot, due to ground pressure" Tracked vehicles have lower ground pressure than a 6x6.

[@CROM-on1bz]

@@jonny2954 That's true, but a 17 or 25 ton armored vehicle with 6 wheels will go where a 50 or 70 ton tracked armored vehicle will never get through, it's just physics.

[@jonny2954]

@CROM-on1bz Bridges. That's literally the only thing. Other than that i have seen 64 ton Leopard 2A7 go places where even a 5 ton 6x6 truck couldn't go. And at a significantly higher speed.

[@kroooassant9899]

It's all about the weight, it does not have tracks but it is much lighter than a modern tank, it has good capabilites, 6 deflated wheels give you a pretty good surface for adhesion but it WILL get stuck in the mud and so do modern heavy tanks, they are just easier to pull out from the mud. You know that kind of mud is just a nightmare for vehicles, sand is the same it just grinds everything get used much faster.

[@Ndriana]

Renault’s answer to Tesla’s Cybertruck 👉 9:18

[@murphy7801]

I prefer it 😂

[@EggwardEgghands]

Cool technology but why does it need to look like Pumba?

[@murphy7801]

Comparing every future to Ukraine is unrealistic. Reason why Ukraine ended up in current situation is no one has air superiority.

[@cwf_media9200]

happy new year lets have another great year together my good friends

[@WeaponDetective]

happy new year, thanks

[@TheWeaponChroniclesX]

You explained the new technologies very clearly, but is the Jaguar truly effective in full-scale warfare in Europe? I think it relies heavily on supporting forces. #TheWeaponChroniclesX

[@iatsd]

You missed the part about it being a recon vehicle? *EVERYTHING* relies heavily on everything else these days. That's what combined warfare is.

[@murphy7801]

I mean Ukrainians get a lot of use out of Bradleys and amax 10 rcr. So probably

[@kanekikaneki908]

Merci pour cette vidéo qui est un peu incomplet

[@JeffBilkins]

When you pay-to-win against the pickups trucks with machine guns.

[@quakethedoombringer]

I seriously doubt the future target for the Jaguar is intended to be some rundown Toyota in the Saharan desert considering recent situations. If anything, it will mostly likely be facing airdropped BMDs or scouting BMP in the country side of Central Europe a hot war scenario

[@koenvangeleuken6544]

impressive armament(the coax machinegun might not be a problem bacuase of the RC machinegun.) but huge dimensions(for a scout vehicle) and thin armour. reminds me a bit of the russian vehicles with great armament(on paper, at least) but very thin armour....i get the impression from the Ukraine war that the US/brit/german choice for heavy armour is justified.

[@MadManchou]

It has much heavier protection than a BMP or BMD. Still wont tank an ATGM, artillery shell or tank round, but should be well protected against low yield FPV drones and typical autocannon calibers. Russian AFVs are also notoriously bad with passive survivability measures, but the Jaguar should be on the upper end of NATO standards in that regard. Not to mention the armour scheme is designed for modularity, and it is likely Nexter is hard at work applying what is learned from Ukraine for proposed extra protection packages.

[@koenvangeleuken6544]

@@MadManchou even the frontal armour resists only 14.5 mm AP!

[@abraham2172]

Ukraine has a different doctrine than France, more in line with US, brit and german ones though.

[@philv3941]

After some errors, ukraine is using properly the AMX 10... wich has quite no amour at all

[@koenvangeleuken6544]

@@philv3941 yeah, interesting to see how they will fare.

[@FinTomTom]

Why not just put the turret on VBCI ? And u would got both Jaguar and Griffon in same chassy. VBCI is tre times more expencive than Griffon 😅 that cpuld be the reason

[@AkaZeo]

Cause VBCI doesnt not fit the role we need for the Jaguar. But the VBCI-2 is the closest thing existing similar to your idea

[@paulsteaven]

VBCI-2 uses the same gun but in a different turret.

[@mathieu722]

Well there is VBCI 2 and VBCI 2 Philoctète with already the same 40mm and Akeron MP, but slightly different turret.

[@mosesracal6758]

No coaxial? Pls have an ORCWS at least

[@PajaroPutih]

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[@XR190190]

12:30 Damn! The Ukrainian experience has proven that the equipments not made to fight individually actually... Cannot fight individually!! WOW!

[@WikiWijaya-ul3cm]

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[@WikiWijaya-ul3cm]

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[@petereriksson7166]

What would be interesting is if it is helping in Ukraine.

[@CyrilleJauffret]

J'ai franchement doutes sur ses capacités au vu de ce qui se passe en Ukraine,40 mm? protection roue ? Protection drone ?je suis perplexe sur son efficacité en pleine hiver,sans compter le combat urbain avec les roues,a voir

[@SP95]

Quitte à ce que tous les véhicules se fassent détruire, autant se délester pour gagner en ergonomie et en efficacité Pour la protection drone c'est la mini tourelle qui s'en charge et pour l'hiver ce véhicule vient de faire des randonnées en Estonie très récemment

[@erdiakarsu4945]

gluk gluk gluk which means multi-role armored vehicles

[@erdiakarsu4945]

I'm sorry but can't stop laughing

[@banksideleopards2569]

Very poor video, the Jaguar is the best in his category, high interconnection and mobility, it can fight against tanks or pick up (without using his missiles).... The point you've missed in your video, when you start the production of this type of vehicles, it's for the next 40 years and the Jaguar platform will get a natural evolution like the Rafale does. ^^

[@oldschool8oy]

That turret looks weird...you expect to tip over anytime :)

[@quakethedoombringer]

Considering how wide it is, I seriously doubt it, compared to let say a Boxer with a 30mm turret

[@maschandra1131]

Fox?

[@Sir_Godz]

algo

[@JoseOrtega-fr8or]

First

[@foivosapostolos1211]

Short answer to the question, NO. Another western boutique system and a waste of money

[@itsmuhammad2305]

This looks somewhat unwieldy

[@renaudstevenin9173]

Je crois que les politiques Français pensent que la guerre se fait sur autoroute 😅 ! Merci A +😊

[@Spectre31t]

ces 30 dérnières années, on a surtout fait "la guerre" en Afrique, ou des milieux ou les chars d'assaults n'avaient pas leur utilités. Aujourd'hui, l'Ukraine nous montre qu'avec des drones a 300$ ont peux détruir assez facilement des tanks a 4 millions pièces, même des VCI avec un canon de 25 mm arrive a mettre un t90 a la ferraille. Je ne pense pas que les tanks ont encore fait leur temps, mais clairement, leur emplois doit être redéfinit, et ça au moins, "les politiques Français" l'ont compris, pour une fois, ils ont pensé la guerre intelligemment.

[@tonyhawk94]

La roue confère un vrai avantage logistique comparé à la chenille, et même avec un engin chenillé je peux te garantir que tu passeras jamais un marais Ukrainien au mois d'Octobre.

[@BloodyCrow__]

Replacing cannon armed vehicles with autocannons is kind of a bad idea.

[@quakethedoombringer]

The 105mm can barely punch through T72 and above, especially the HE shell variants. It's also extremely inflexible to deal with fast non-tank targets like trucks or IFV unless you are dealing with stationery hardened bunkers. For tanks, that's what the Akeron is for

[@Team6OWG]

The AMX 10 RC performed terribly in Ukraine, it goes to show that not all weapons can perform great in all regions. Despite in success in other regions.

[@lucaj8131]

The 10 RC is a unique weapon system it doesnt really have any equivalent in other military, you cannot expect Ukrainian Generals to be able to implement it appropriately from the start, like you dont expect a sushi chef to run a pizzeria successfully. Tho recently I'm not sure its doing that terrible...

[@Team6OWG]

@@lucaj8131 I mean all it can do now is indirect artillery.

[@lordtemplar9274]

to be fair Ukraine used them in direct frontal assaults which is stupid to begin with since the AMX 10 RC is a recon / flanking / support unit. Furthermore no vehicle has done well on either side in frontal assaults. They ALL (Leopards, Bradleys, Abrams, T90, T72 etc...) get decimated by drones, artillery and ATGM. This explains the snail pace of advances by either side vs defended positions. Both sides have realized it frontal assaults are suicide, and now mostly use artillery pounding followed by infantry. Tanks are now mostly used for indirect fire, as is the AMX 10 RC. There have been minimal vehicle vs vehicle engagements, (except for a few anecdotal examples on social media, but the vast majority of vids are from aerial drones with hellfire raining down on unsuspecting vehicles)

[@aimgorge]

​@@Team6OWG obviously since it's a reconnaissance vehicle. It's working very well in ukraine now that they are used as they should have been. It's doing much better than most more modern vehicles are.

[@Kamonohashiii]

​@@Team6OWG Ukrain used them wrong tho

[@bluewaffle1957]

That turret is one giant shot trap for in coming rounds and shrapnel ☹

[@CrispyPratt]

Yeah like the armour on this thing was meant to withstand large calibres anyway...

[@lucaj8131]

War thunder knowledge

[@alertsouthafrica]

All Copies of the South African Armed Vehicles. South Africa was way ahead in 1970s and 1980s - The South African Defence Force SADF was focused on High Speed Attack (Hit and Run) with cover fire from the G5 and G6 in the back ground and it worked. First Country in the world with a true anti mine vehicle South Africa

[@AlphaConde-qy7vi]

That's BS, armoured cars exist since the early 1900's.

[@alkazarjkdghjd]

France was already building armored car, and light tank since the end of the first world war. The French are the one who made modern tank with their Renault FT...

[@alertsouthafrica]

@@AlphaConde-qy7vi not like the South African Armed vehicles

[@unepersonne3320]

@@alertsouthafrica south africa the one that based most of thier tech on aml 60 /90 ? LMAO

[@jgw9990]

Its armour is weak for 25t and lack of ammo as mentioned

[@Rafale01]

Its not an MBT its a support and recon..

[@jgw9990]

​@Rafale01 Irrelevant. It's armour is weak compared to BMP3 which is also lighter than it.

[@unepersonne3320]

@@jgw9990 lmao bmp3 wich would get killed in an instant by anything bigger than 12.7mm

[@jgw9990]

@unepersonne3320 from the sides and back. Front is well armoured.

[@unepersonne3320]

@ yeah so well armored , 20mm ap and its over

[@khaldrago911]

“French military doctrine prioritizes speed and mobility over armor for survivability”. Actually, the French military survives by surrendering immediately! Little known fact, but that’s why they have the white in their flag. In a pinch, they rip off the red and blue, and viola! The white flag of surrender!

[@Lol-rx7sx]

Par contre, on reconnaît facilement un con qui commante...

[@lordtemplar9274]

little known facts to ignorant trolls like yourself, France has won more battles than any other country in history! now jog on you muppet

[@leonidasthermopylae3378]

If you had dropped that crack pipe during history class you would have learned that France has actually the highest number military victories in Europe my friend. More than your country will ever have. Do yourself a favor. Go to school

[@sebastienpetrein5541]

In fact, the white flag of surrender was first used by English commander on the field to surrender to the Kingdom of France whose flag was made of golden fleur-de-lys on white. The French armies were so successful that it become a standard on ALL battlefield even when France wasn't part of the conflict. You're welcome.

[@leonidasthermopylae3378]

@@khaldrago911 the Uk has never won a war on its own. It always needed allies, and if I remember correctly it the Brits who at Dunkirk literally dropped their weapon in the middle of the fight and ran away.

[@MegaTechGuy]

Another outdated design designed for the last decade not the next, zero anti-air/drone basically makes this worthless.

[@Crissy_the_wonder]

Worthless is hyperbole

[@CROM-on1bz]

The big advantage of all French armaments is that they are incremental, when the directed EMP system is ready there is no doubt that it will be added to the Jag's armament.

[@endi5739]

@MegaTechGuy Are you stupid ? What do you think is the light turret with the 7,62 mm machine gun for ? It's coupled with a laser, so any drone has NO chance to touch it ! And talking about RPG, the light canon with its explosive amo can destroy them, but they also can add a 40 mm LGA (Lance Grenade Automatique) on top able to destroy rockets.

[@vivientouzeau6850]

So if I understand all the armored vehicles in Ukraine and most in the world are worthless... Besides the Jaguar has a RVS with an elevation up to 60 degrees, not the best, but better than nothing, and jamming systems. Not totally worthless I think. The Jaguar has not been made for assault, that's why it is not the beast most of us would like ;)

[@iatsd]

@MegaTechGuy What other birlliant insights of hindsight would you like to share with us? Tell us what will be the dominant factor ~15 years from now so that the designers can heed you and design for that, because it's not like the 10-15 year lead time on design to service is going to change anytime soon.

[@entropy_of_principles]

…another garbage video about a well designed weapon. Weapon “detective” you’re drunk when talking non-sense 😮

[@elsenm3965]

I do not agree with you.

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