EC 22 Capsize and Recovery

[@markandoyo2204]

this boat has an upright resilience even may not ballasted

[@drummer1260]

I happened to stumble across your video. Very good practical experience which I, hopefully, will never have to realize. Good job on training young sailors!

[@AdventuresOnBoatscom]

Having tipped over and righted many times on a catamaran (16 ft Prindle), It helps to have a rope hanging over the upper side of the hull when trying to right the boat. It gives you substantially more leverage. -johnny

[@josephanderson4340]

Yes having a dedicated line in place to aid in righting the boat is a good idea. I will put it on my list.

[@yuriydeynekin4532]

And besides that line a collapsible water bag of 10-15 gallons may be also very helpful, especially if your weight isn't enough.

[@7.62fullmetal9]

Thats good....now try it ten miles offshore in a five foot swell and 35knt winds.

[@notascoobyreally7520]

I’d only do that of necessity. And, if I was in such a predicament of necessary action, I’d be pretty thankful for the preparatory practice of righting a boat in calm, controlled conditions at the dock-side, and that’s saying the very least!

[@highgatehandyman6479]

The big worry is righting her in a big wind and then watching her sail off before you get back in. Probably want to make sure you grab on well

[@rcpmac]

Nice demonstration!!!

[@scottfelsen]

OK You guys are nuts!!! lol I love it!!!

[@buynsell365]

I wish my Nacra 20 was this easy to right.

[@allaheadflank]

thanks for sharing!

[@NA-su3jk]

Awesome.

[@ejsoder]

Neat vid. I would guess the guy standing on the keel weighs around 180 lbs. I'd add another 180 lbs. to the keel and forget about it knowing it would self right if knocked down. Just me. Fun video.

[@sebastianjimenezroman5320]

Increíble bravoooo 👋👋👋👋

[@yuriydeynekin4532]

I wonder: why didn't the boat go "turtle" and what would you do in that case?

[@josephanderson4340]

The masts are light, hollow, and sealed. The side of the cabin makes contact with the water when the boat is past 90 degrees. If the cabin floods from say the portlight being open, the boat would likely turtle. Theoretically standing on one edge of the inverted hull and leaning back against a line would bring the boat back around. If the water is less than 26 feet in depth and the masts are in mud you have a major problem.

[@yuriydeynekin4532]

Thank you. So, as I see, you just have a good luck that your mast is sealed and works like a float. Unfortunately in many cases it's not like that, especially with modern masts with lines going inside. So people with that kind of mast should think double before trying these exercises.

[@johnk3606]

Took a lot to finally capsize her. May be beneficial to point out to novices that sailboats rarely capsize in slick calm seas so it may be quite a bit tougher to stand or otherwise hold on to the centerboard in rough sea conditions. Possibly rigging a line from the gunnel that could be held on to or even climbed up on the bottom side of the boat would add some more leverage and a steadying force while righting. Great clear and calm recovery though..

[@josephanderson4340]

Good points. It is true of almost any skill. You learn to roll your kayak in a swimming pool with an instructor standing by. That does not mean you are ready to combat roll in a class V rapid, but it is a first and important step on the way. There are some things I would do differently if I was to redo the video. Standing on the board like I was preparing to do a back dive is not realistic. In rough conditions you might sit down on the board and scooch back towards the tip. In actual conditions I have been unable to pull myself up onto the board from the water. I have prepared a piece of webbing with some foot loops that I can loop over the board and use to apply force to the board without climbing over the top of the boat.

[@johnk3606]

The webbing is an excellent solution to those problems! Fair winds.

[@J-Justice666]

In Deep water your boat would have very likely gone Turtle. Best thing to do (First thing to do) is to go around and grab the dagger board and hold it down so the boat doesn't flip completely upside down (Turtle) then allow someone to climb up on top. You may be able to right the boat by pulling down on the dagger or climbing onto it. But always, always, always go for the dagger board first.

[@josephanderson4340]

In many ways I think your advice is spot on. I don't think water depth is really relevant. Going turtle in water less than your mast height can be a much more difficult problem than turtling in deep water. In shallow water you may not be able to right the boat due to the mast being stuck in the bottom or you could damage the mast. Each boat is different and every sailor has different abilities and limitations. Practicing in controlled conditions gives you some tools to work with in more challenging situations. An EC22 is pretty stable on its side. As long as the portlights are sealed and the waves are not washing directly into the cabin she is good for a long while. But there is no advantage to wasting time. Maybe water is finding a way into the cabin or a sealed bulkhead. getting pressure on the dagger board immediately is good policy, even if it is only to give you time to figure out what to do next.

[@J-Justice666]

@@josephanderson4340 Yeah my comments weren't just for you but the less experienced people watching / reading this.. There are many factors to consider with very little time to react.. and I didn't elaborate on the depth variables... You know, you're right... I have gone turtle in water shallower that the height of my mast and got stuck in the mud.. Breaking the mast when she was righted.. BUMMER... (I didn't know what I was doing). My boat was open top and prone to fill with seawater when the gunwales went under... Your boat was AWESOME at staying empty while on her side... good design... off-center swing keel/dagger, cubby cab... Main and mizzen.... Nice boat. I would also rather sit on the dagger with a sheet or other line tied to the mast or "something" as apposed to standing on a slick dagger with nothing to pull on... if the dagger breaks you'll fall farther from a standing position and can hit your head/face on what's left of the dagger...OUCH!! When I first started out sailing, I / we capsized my little boat all the time (going too fast and pitch poled) so I (we) got real good at getting around to the dagger so the mast head didn't deep six and end up speared into the bottom.. Someone suggested tying a milk jug to the top to keep her mast afloat altogether.. duh... Nowadays my boats are all heavy keeled and self righting... Less exciting, but dryer... :)

[@coreyeg87]

Im not going to lie i laughed till yall turned it back over 😂 good practice tho

[@MrWhothefoxthat]

1.03 what does that tell you, never take your boat out in force 10.

[@pvb9964]

buy a self righting boat

[@josephanderson4340]

Perhaps there is something about your comment that I do not understand, but to my knowledge a self righting sailboat would need to have a deep ballasted keel. Not practical if you want your boat to be capable of sailing in shallow water. Choosing a boat is about making compromises. If you want your boat to be self righting than it can not have a shallow draft or be a light boat capable of planing.

[@pvb9964]

@@josephanderson4340 Coastal Recreation Aquarius 23, manual shows it being pulled deliberately 90 deg sideways, and it self rights. 800+ lbs lead in the keel, with a swing keel. 13 inch draft swing keel up, 3 ft with keel down. trailers easily. Other similar boats are plentiful.