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[@nathanlegrand7444]

“So, what ultimate should we give Echo?” Jeff: yes

[@brendethedev2858]

Basicly Kirby lol

[@shade7014]

Truest comment about echo ever

[@meatisrawwww928]

Hanzo: Only a Shimada can control the dragons Echo: Hold my battery

[@DamageBug]

Savage

[@zajiro_subii1819]

I think echo should not able to copy shimada cause it's not science power it is supernatural power.

[@user-xw5xo3bv1n]

@@zajiro_subii1819 i think that with science she can probably emulate this supernatural power close enough)

[@MrHeliMan]

Hahaha, battery, It's funny cuz she's a robot ahaha

[@revimfadli4666]

@@zajiro_subii1819 no need to copy the supernatural(with physical effects) if you can just emulate the physical effects

[@Molisa682]

they really just went and made dps queues even longer lmao

[@koolin3613]

Yeah i was so hoping she would be a support, with more dps in the game than tanks and supports combined..

[@VVheeli]

I’d love a support that’s got like a vision impair ability and gives temporary barrier/damage reduction with heals. Like a soft CC, not stun. But nah, just make another dps that seems busted. We loved all new supports besides Brig. We loved most of the new tanks, Sigma only potential outlier. But like dps, we got so many annoying things coming out.

[@empty3696]

Andrew Gan honestly that would be dope. Hero with smoke bombs, illusions, etc. a hero centered around vision control and misdirection that’s different from sombra

[@brandonkortan2959]

@@VVheeli seems busted? Echo is completely broken lol.

[@mowgli8945]

@The Lord of Entropy I'd say about the same amount of stupidity in both heroes

[@Impulse7850]

Jeff then announces she is banned in competitive

[@gabenixon6141]

Echo is now banned in competitive

[@skyla-idiot]

Jeff Kaplan 🤯

[@SirHippolord]

Are new heroes usually immediately added to comp? It’s been years since I’ve played lol

[@DeviltoGeorgia34]

@@SirHippolord For the first 2-3 weeks usually.

[@Muciatneh]

@@SirHippolord AFAIK new chars get disabled in comp for 1 week after release by default, started with Brig (maybe another char started this trend, correct if im wrong)

[@ThatLaloBoy]

Jeff said that Echo has one of the slowest ults in the game. That might be true on paper. But with how much damage she can deal, her ult feels like it charges extremely fast. Too fast even.

[@christiandesanto7249]

She has one of the fastest lmao, only 1680 points

[@4m4n40]

She does more damage than bastion, so it doesn’t matter

[@RvnWolf]

Yes because everybody can play like Seagull or other pro players.

[@woah5333]

Why would they not factor in dmg when balancing around ult charge......

[@nahaight1373]

@@4m4n40 not even close

[@JAxz5]

Everyone talking and seagull laughing Seagull: i didn't hear any footsteps Lol

[@joethegrate33]

All he does is make excuses "OH THE PING" " I DIDNT FLY ON HIS SCREEN"

[@Priesstt_]

joe thegrate bro?..

[@joethegrate33]

Rahim Ikram ?

[@nijah_r]

I was playing with that hog an hour ago

[@cyanite15]

The sounds is actually broken though. Hog and Reaper make no footsteps most of the time. There was a fix on a previous PTR for this but it didn't go through for some reason.

[@KyleCorbeau]

What I've learned from this: *_NEVER_* play D.Va against Echo. If you do you are the enemies MVP.

[@xenocheeze6633]

Turns out, the only way to counterpick DVa is to potentially give the enemies two DVas lmaoo

[@franciscoguinledebarros4429]

Tracer could be worse lmao

[@megascizor8275]

Wait why

[@olppaemi7186]

Mega Scizor dva basically has 5 lifes Echo low dupe dva then baby dva then dva then babt dva then normal echo full health

[@olppaemi7186]

Mega Scizor if you talking about tracer its cause she gets ult SUUUPPPPERRR FASSSRTTT

[@Adu767]

So let me get this straight Echo's ultimate is EVERY ultimate???

[@Trocify225]

Adu767 whatever enemy you’re looking at is what character you switch to...

[@Adu767]

@@Trocify225 I gathered that much, it just means you have 6 ultimates to choose from (which could include ANYONE on the roster) which charges ludicrously fast.

[@rudolfschulthess9493]

Do u know what happens if echo uses her ult on another echo?

[@alsartsavience3512]

@@rudolfschulthess9493 i didn't tried the ptr yet, but i guess it simply doesn't allow you, since it would change nothing.

[@noahkothlow5488]

@@rudolfschulthess9493 u cant

[@nerrajay9397]

I feel like echo was made when goats was still around

[@chainer8686]

Feels that way, but they had concept designs for over 50 heroes apart from the starting lineup before the game even released.

[@michaeldatuin15]

Jarren D um yea she was teased since last year

[@dumajadeafillesfeltzer6064]

@@michaeldatuin15 uM ACTuAlly ShE waS rEvEaLeD iN 2018!??!?!?!? tHaT wAs TwO YeArS agO!!11!

[@tayo2810]

Goats is gone! Dang i been gone so long

[@RvnWolf]

Probably right, but they delayed it to announce and work on Overwatch 2 the expansion so people would forget about their bending over and spreading cheeks wide for China.

[@albingrahn5576]

0:40 ADMIN HE'S DOING IT SIDEWAYS

[@libertyprime9307]

At this point there's no excuse for the team saying her momentum hopping is unintended or wasn't tested for. That tech is ancient on heroes like Lucio/Winston/Rein.

[@G4V1N1US]

It's just really hard to patch out without making a bunch of characters feel worse in normal play.

[@KingFLARZz]

if mercy gets to keep her super jump, then echo should keep her b hop

[@cent0r]

It's called bunnyhopping. Casuals.

[@yoshiguy123]

@@cent0r Everyone knows that.

[@cent0r]

@@yoshiguy123 except the people calling it momentum hopping

[@MisterVercetti]

Duck and cover, folks. Brig 2: Electric Boogaloo cometh.

[@justsomeannoyingredpanda]

Grian fan?

[@turbiin1572]

(please use full name)

[@Djfrankvd]

MisterVercetti *tag 2 : electric boogaloo*

[@jomancool55]

lol I just saw Grians video as well :P

[@ravenpug3252]

who’s grian? i only know grain

[@byrontheusurper6505]

I love Echo saying "it's high noon", that is so funny!

[@zer0_iz_d34d]

She sounds so depressed lol

[@whYLiE09]

"Echo can disable hero select?" "Yeah, it's actually crazy" "Wait..what why!?" _Good Question_

[@GummyDinosaursify]

Most likely because the Echo Ult is using character data from that player and if it's changed, it might break the game since that Data is no longer available. Just a theory, though.

[@mantispray2225]

7:39

[@crispybacon4240]

@@GummyDinosaursify A game theory?

[@OptimalShot]

@@GummyDinosaursify Nah, she just turns into that hero and then all the data you need is done when you click Q

[@leonardoaquino3669]

@@GummyDinosaursify By that logic, i can only wonder what happens if the targeted player suddenly quits the game

[@ben_sch]

Its insane how strong she is. Especially how fast she charges ults while she is in her ult.

[@hermamora1107]

Needs to be nerfed significantly, so that you can get 1 ult.

[@errorsans8713]

Jeff is probably doing this to make everybody try and adore her...so he can see their faces when he nerfs Echo

[@Magnus..]

@@hermamora1107 needs to be needed ???

[@Mystravian]

I feel like thye just need to make her ult harder to get, since multi ults while in that form is part of her design.

[@willwunsche6940]

@@errorsans8713 New heros need to be a little broken so people want to play and learn them before pulling back basic developing 101

[@GEKGanon]

The problem is that the game could honestly use a character like Echo with really anti-tank and anti-barrier capabilities, but because she's SO much more ridiculous than other characters at it, she's going to become another must-pick hero. Every time Blizzard adds a new character, they are usually absurd must-picks right out of the gate, until they get balanced later on.

[@df6597]

She should have been geared toward support anyway, they dropped several balls on this one.

[@mylucidadventures6540]

but it is quite machinacally diffecult i see a lot of people missing her abilitys or missusing them i dont think she is as op as everyone says, not to mentchen if your in the sky a good widow or mccree will delete you

[@genkai7278]

@@mylucidadventures6540 Her sticky bombs are like a miniature version of Tracer's ult on a 6 second cooldown. She's busted.

[@Ender13123]

But her whole concept is she's every hero. I think empirically this is the most powerful hero in the game because she is OVERWATCH. Anything the game can do she can do better. The only other hero that comes close to this level of S tier is Sombra because she is the black hole that destroys every other ability. It makes sense they waited until the last(?) hero of original OW the most powerful one. Even other heros released in the future cannot be this as powerful, because those heros will also be in Echo. I'm not saying don't balance her so the numbers add up. Obviously the multi-ult thing is insane, I think even 1 ult per life would be more than useful. If this is gonna be the most powerful hero in OW, I guess that's the way it's gonna be. This is what it's all been leading up toward. I'm hopeful future heros will add even more dynamics to this insane web of heroes, perhaps more straightforward hero designs with the occasional game changer, as long as it's still interesting/fun/balanced to play.

[@blueboy1958]

Amidst Tank and/or Barrier destroyers like: Mei, Reaper, Sombra, McCree, 76, Pharah. Alongside Stuns, boops and debuffs from supports like: Ana, Zen, Lucio, Brig (Not mentioning that of DPS or other Tanks like RoadHog). Alongside recent Barrier nerfs. The game did not need another Anti-Tank, anti-barrier hero. At all.

[@G4V1N1US]

Her ult charge rate while in Duplicate is OP especially with the "extra life" thing. Duplicate should just switch you to the enemy with their ult ready, but not be able to charge more.

[@Rylopero]

Or limit the duration of duplicate to 10 or even 8 seconds

[@FINN-sh2iv]

@@Rylopero nah id say to only allow 1 ult per duplicate. Being able to use it as many times as you can (although situational) is just to much imo

[@borris542]

Gvin I like your idea the most but my original idea was increase the outs duration but decrease the charge rates

[@LIMERAGE]

@@FINN-sh2iv If you do that, you're punishing the best players

[@Sam5D]

@@FINN-sh2iv the point of her ult is to get multiple ults in a short time span in my opinion her ult is lazy and they should just remove it and come up with a different idea

[@highsocks5914]

She will revert back to standard Echo after using an enemy Ultimate. This is my balance prediction, you saw it here first.

[@Vaestus]

Nah that would be dummy shit, basically removing half of the ults duration. Probably going to just lock it to only being able to ult once per transformation

[@mr.penguin4614]

ult charge while duplicated will be reduced forsure.

[@alfwt]

Should make it so you can't ult the same enemy within a set time frame, can't ult an enemy back to back or within 3 minutes or something. So they can't just repeatedly pick the same champ

[@highsocks5914]

you're right, one enemy ult per use seems much better, hadnt considered that.

[@UnNuclear]

Or just make it to where she can only use one enemy ult per transformation.

[@1exVL]

Imagine disguising as zen, u can transcendence twice within 15 second

[@INooneNoI]

i dont think so dude,cuz trans of zen use 6s and 12s if u wanna use twice,that mean u just have 3s to charge zen's ulti twice too, maybe its too hard :)),but 3 ulti by copy reaper is fuking possible,so.....i mean oh shit :v

[@Dat_Jonx]

Same with any save ults like as Lucio and Brig.

[@DoguiDougua]

@@Dat_Jonx But Tracer...

[@VVheeli]

Forget Zen, imagine Mei blizzard + 2 Echo blizzards. Imagine Sombra. No matter how much I love playing her, having 2 within 15 seconds is dumb. And 2 is definitely doable.

[@bloop3211]

Andrew Gan its not doable though. If you’ve played in an actual match you’d find that getting one is sometime hard enough with sombra, especially healers. With healers like lucid its almost impossible to get two ults in a regular scenario. People just see practice range and never actually look at real gameplay

[@FugiYo]

She's basically the dream for all true flex players but a nightmare for all and the integrity of the game if she'll stay like this.

[@zeroinfinity9189]

Wasn't the whole point of role lock and hero ban to prevent flex players and goats? Her role just doesn't make sense in my opinion since she adds to the problem not to mention even longer dps queues.

[@FugiYo]

@@zeroinfinity9189 The only problem was GOATS not flex players.. I don't know where you get that flexing in the middle of the game id bad.. hell that was like one of the key components of overwatch back then.. to flex things around and adapt to whatever the enemy has and a vise versa but then GOATS ruined mid game flexing.. Flexing is still alive though but obviously you can't flex to different roles lessening the flexibility of the team.. it had to be done though even though they could've just ban or outright delete Brigitte. Also 2 2 2 lock basically supports one trcking imo and if the person sucks at that role you can't do anything.. sure 2 2 2 lock was needed to kill GOATS but they never really consider about how it would impact people trying to get out of plat maybe even diamond and below

[@zeroinfinity9189]

@@FugiYo I word it a bit wrong. I don't mean that flexing in a middle of the game is bad. I mean that now ECHO can flex outside the role lock 2-2-2. If Echo can only mimic DPS than I'm fine with that. But because she can mimic Tanks and Healers, it just defeats the whole purpose of 2-2-2 role lock. I'm okay with flexing but why have 2-2-2 when you have a Hero who no longer obeys this rule. I don't know, it's just my opinion.

[@FugiYo]

@@zeroinfinity9189 oh ic.. I get what you're saying.. I mean honestly they might've lost their minds with Echo.. yeah the ult duration is short but people could kill faster and if the player is good enough could literally spam 2 ults no problem like reins or any instant ult activation heroes. She'll either be reworked which I doubt nerfed which I hope or to save her "uniqueness" nerf everyone's ult charge again or whatever.

[@DiligentMantis]

@@FugiYo I haven't played OW in a while. What is GOATS?

[@fourleafproductions9788]

And on todays episode of making Pharah irrelevant

[@gingermedman8509]

What if we combined Pharah, Doomfist, and Symetra and let her have multiple ultimates of her choosing? That'd be super easy to balance right?

[@thessop9439]

Pharah echo and mercy are stupidly op

[@datniggakermit5287]

Who the fuck is Pharah?

[@fourleafproductions9788]

@@datniggakermit5287 hello brother

[@LittleZero86]

Joining Junkrat and Bastion

[@tymiller176]

As a console player, killing Echo in the air will be such a chore. Pharmercy is bad enough on console. Especially on the lower ranks

[@geert574]

PC looks faster on your screen she will actually move a lot slower plus Moira succs everyone off

[@euanmiller8728]

Least she counters Pharamercy, its like they eliminated a problem with another problem

[@RedGallardo]

Console shooter players remind me people trying to Tour de France on unicycle. Yes, it's theoretically possible... Some may even master that torture.

[@jayyemm69]

Not after the nerf

[@charlesmartiniii1405]

@@RedGallardo yes your so superior tell me more

[@simonbttger5630]

I always think about returning to ow, but i always see these new heroes, and lose all hope for this game, and the balance changes

[@Mrgamer1638]

same they can never get the balance right with new hereos

[@simonbttger5630]

MFREAL they havent Got new heroes balanced Right since Ana lol

[@cheetoh3149]

@@simonbttger5630 lol so true

[@softwarrior.]

Same hahahah. I uninstalled it last year

[@softwarrior.]

The ps4 community is soooo freaking toxic

[@Grenix-5XG]

What should be done is that she automatically gets one charge of ult after using duplicate. But then can't use another in the same transformation

[@lewisnorden3744]

I agree

[@lewisnorden3744]

Actually not automatically get one ult she should have to charge it

[@TheBubbeloo]

@@lewisnorden3744 Maybe get the ult at the % charge that her target hero has it at? That way if someone has ult at the ready she'd have it right away but if she copies someone at like 10% she'd have to charge it up.

[@revimfadli4666]

@@TheBubbeloo that's a big brain clutch potential right there

[@HarshNerf]

@@TheBubbeloo That would require Jeff and his bunch of morons to think about balance and they don't do that ever

[@ElmersBoil]

Im convinced nobody from blizzard has ever even launched the overwatch client

[@lewisnorden3744]

I'm convinced that you're an idiot

[@RoBin-ec1fd]

Yea they keep releasen shitty ass heroes

[@B..P..]

@@lewisnorden3744 Dont be insecure and dont be a sheep man.

[@lewisnorden3744]

@@B..P.. the sheep are always the ones jumping to say op when they test out in practice range lmao

[@arnerademacker8548]

Lewis Norden And so far they‘ve been right? Name a single hero that was not released in an OP state before getting nerfed. Echo apparently has already been nerfed. This happens every time. You‘re acting like somehow there ever has been a hero that has been buffed after PTR

[@marcdio2073]

10:55 U did kill him but it was nanoed Echo xDDDD

[@Tomasthe1st]

That was some awesome game play!

[@trevortm3304]

9:06 is when I shat myself thinking of the terror of a echo buffed genji going off

[@benjaminsmythe8967]

Just when I thought about coming back to OW I see the Devs release Another busted character... They never learn.

[@hex9077]

It seems to be decent as of right now

[@Jose_gomez184]

That roadhog was targeting you the whole game

[@amodlol2881]

@Josh Dawson i mean i feel like its roadhogs job to anti air her to the ground. Otherwise seagull would just rein free the whole game

[@KingTwelveSixteen]

Of course he was, Seagull was playing Echo! Why would Roadhog target any other character if Echo is a choice of target???

[@azza5332]

A hero that deletes barriers is just what Shield Shooter Simulator needs.

[@Paganavatar]

I love Echo saying "it's high noon."

[@rojeezee]

When I heard 650% I laughed so hard that I started crying and then cried myself to sleep

[@benjaminv-mikaelian2221]

after 2 years of leaving overwatch, I decided to come back and give overwatch another chance, I started watching over-analyze again and more. looks like jeff wants to make this game as unfun as possible. I'm actually really sad leaving this game twice again. whats also is funny is that if they add these super op heroes in like those seasonal limited games with new game modes i don't think anybody would mind, the game still would be refreshing, not as frustrating and still feeling new with the new games modes and heroes like this

[@princesscadance197]

I gave it another chance after leaving as well. The game just isn’t fun any longer, and feels limiting. As well as considering there really isn’t much to do other than competitive PVP matches.

[@whatfffd]

Great edit. Thanks for the gameplay SG.

[@G01dmaster]

Excellent mobility, including flight which is vertical and horizontal movement, with short cooldown, explosives and single burst fire which does IINSANE damage and a Q that basically lets you choose a hero, ult multiple times if its a tank, and completely switch a fight by yourself, imagine being lucio and how many fuckin beats you could drop

[@nahhfam7678]

How this made it past in house testing either tells me that Activision Blizzard doesn't care about balancing the heroes themselves in the lead up to Overwatch 2 or they hope the stir caused by releasing a broken character will bring back curious players.

[@jonasdalmayne4190]

It's the latter.

[@lewisnorden3744]

Or ya know it's for fun on the ptr

[@baeleth6469]

Or maybe. Its the same like for every other new hero. They always started really strong. Echo is nothing special.

[@alliuboyo5158]

Nahh Fam how is she broken

[@Zathren]

Her dmg is definitely gonna get adjusted. But as she had no real escape, stun or CC and is just pure dmg like Soldier or a Doomfist without shield generation, I think over all they knocked it out of the park with her. People think every new hero is "Broken" on release. The only one that was right was Brigette.

[@dimentioo]

How does she have no real escape she can fly lol

[@NSHenry93]

I'm sorry but clearly you were not watching the same gameplay. It's not about her damage being busted it's about how much sheer utility she has and how strong her ult is for a team fight. Like seagull said "I have 5 lives" in the hands of a competent player that is an ludicrous amount of utility to have.

[@gosisjsnercosskjsnr7369]

Wow u clearly didn't see the video she has likea fade effect

[@yoloman3607]

Her DPS is insane on the beam, it does 300dps on low health targets for instant kill secured

[@untapped8776]

@@yoloman3607 200 actually. 50 on anything above half health. Also a 20 meter range. It's practically useless on anything above half health. She might have a little too high damage for her normal loop, but considering she has absoultely zero sustain, I think people just need to not be afraid of her and shoot her down. CC is also a pretty hard counter, and she looks like she's got a pretty decently high skill floor anyways. Otherwise, she looks hella fluid and fun. It'll be okay, everyone. She's not even live yet. Just relax.

[@JSDRB]

I wish I could play as fluidly as that. Smoothness over 9000

[@pulsar.]

This is way too fun.

[@CrumbleLoaf]

For the people that wanted Echo to be a support just ult their support everytime you get it

[@geert574]

Yea I'll queue for 20 mins when I can just queue as support and play one instantly 🤣

[@stvnt9430]

Geert Matthys exactlyyyyy I was so hype to throw mercy away and play competitive non stop as a support echo

[@HibHab69]

WE DON'T PLAY DPS ASSHOLE, WE CARRY YOU AS TANK AND HEALER YOU TARD.

[@postalcollapse12]

Dafran in every video: "I'm twyingg to help yeww" followed by a fat LOL

[@joakimhyer6993]

Dont call IT b hop b thats just not how u do IT

[@pip355gaming8]

I have been waiting to see seagull play this character. This character was literally made for him!

[@kevinlam2087]

Seagull is really good at landing those sticky bombs

[@snuff9218]

Echo is BROKEN.. | Overwatch Game: Apex Legends

[@Hasgore]

your brain is broken

[@B..P..]

@@Hasgore 12 year old Kid's comeback....

[@loglog7]

Feels like either her ult needs to take more damage or not give her an extra life.

[@lt.gasmask1920]

loglog7 I feel like both and it needs to last 10 seconds

[@koolin3613]

So her ult is like claptraps ability from borderlands the pre sequel? Thats kinda cool

[@owhmy646]

Jeff also said in an interview that they thought about how many ult echo should get during transformation so the 650% must’ve had a reason why it was so high so I don’t expect them to nerf her to like 300% rather 450-500%

[@vincent-ls9lz]

they shouldve stopped adding heroes at ana dont @ me

[@branded1010]

Can wait for the 30 Min dps q when she becomes available in comp

[@blurgle9185]

4 minute q. Sometimes 6. You are bitching and overexaggerating.

[@ahronee]

@@blurgle9185 more like > 10

[@blurgle9185]

​@@ahronee I would call you a liar. I play way too much OW to let my sanity go and agree that queue-times get to 10 min. 8 mins wait is extreme in my experiense. Besides, qp classic, q-time is just 30 sec.

[@lachlanmackoy2957]

Could you use echo ult and transform into another echo and using that echos ult, would you be able to infinity keep turning into echo

[@bellicoso]

seagull - chipsa new dream duo 😄❤️

[@ElLucoso]

Honestly i think Echo really give a Glass Cannon vibe, which is common to look OP on an overview. But seriously, on PTR people are like, "omg so op pls delete" but the moment she comes live nerfed she will just be a troll pick i guarantee you. The exact same happened to Doomfist and Sombra before their buffs, i wouldn't be suprised with it also happened to Echo. Although yeah that fast ultimate gain really is absurd, IMO they should limit to only 1 per duplicate

[@hanzofactory]

She's got 200hp, a small hitbox, a good amount of movement, and her fast charging ultimate heals her to full hp twice (at the beginning and end). All that plus super high damage is definitely not a glass cannon.

[@ElLucoso]

@@hanzofactory and what do you think a glass cannon really is?

[@zntxd]

Imagine this hero is in the same game as Genji

[@lukasg4807]

Yeah, 1 dash combo and you have two deagon blades. Glad I quit the game when role queue came out.

[@zntxd]

@@lukasg4807 not what I meant

[@SuperSilver7591]

Omg all the Bois together 😭

[@calliekid707]

the back to back deadeye is strong lol

[@TheOdMan]

As someone who doesn't even play anymore, and was shit to begin with, I'm happy, because she's fun to watch :)

[@xXCrazy1oO]

imagine selecting to duplicate an enemy echo then just go into a never ending loop of instant ultimates

[@DauragonC.Mikado]

you can't copy another Echo

[@xXCrazy1oO]

23rd Bastard Knight I know that now I said this before echo was released on console but still... imagine lol

[@okerbel]

you should be adding the chats pogchamps

[@mitrovixfilip8017]

i dont understand how they got pre live champs or patches how do they do that and can i try new echo before she goes live or they have a special pass or somethin like that?? i need answers!!

[@hungrypenguino1827]

on pc u can play on the PTR lmao

[@michaels9595]

In ptr, nothing is broken, everything is permitted.

[@eljefe114]

Every character that’s ever came out has been broken while in the shooting range.

[@havelyntherockelyn1576]

And in play

[@inthaniak]

so i am not the only one understanding the fact that it's not broken, but about "people not understanding a new char". thx, was giving up on mankind's intelligence here...

[@havelyntherockelyn1576]

@@inthaniak uhhhhh are you such a fanboy you forgot about Blizzards track record?

[@chinii_eej]

Havelyn The Rockelyn oh like when they banned a player for saying stand with hong kong? Or when they got a memo by the US government informing them that chinese influence wouldn’t be tolerated? TBH i hate new heroes because all anyone thinks about is nerf or nothing, while disregarding buffs to other heroes

[@inthaniak]

@@havelyntherockelyn1576 yes i am a fan of the games i play... not sure why you play games you are no fan of, but hey, it's a free world, play games you don't like, it's your time

[@papasteve566]

Genji Mains : *THEY FLYIN NOW?*

[@s-fang5520]

Is this going to be a telesto montage?

[@codyrishell1892]

It's interesting to me how a lot of the newer heroes in Overwatch seem to be inspired by newer heroes being released for SMITE. Ash's alt and her kit is really similar to Hera in SMITE (the alt is the exact same), and now, Echo entire kit and ult is eerily similar to The Morrigan. I'm not knocking it, I think it's interesting to track where Overwatch is grabbing inspiration from for a hero shooter versus a MOBA. I kind of think Echo should have been able to be selected as either a Tank, Damage, or Support and her kit changes depending on which role they're in. Her abilities are definitely cool and definitely going to be nerf'd sooner rather than later, but it strikes me as a big missed opportunity to do something interesting, rather than just kind of more of the same "which box does this hero go into" design.

[@alanjimenez930]

Had the same thought honestly

[@pennywise1682]

Blizzard is famous for stealing ideas from other games...

[@EJW2003]

Wow, I’m so excited for rein (and other tanks in general) to be unplayable against echo! Great job blizzard, less tanks in queue and even more dps!

[@blurgle9185]

how the fuck would Rein be playable against an airborne hero? Pharah is far more devastating against Rein than Echo. I still main Rein, kicking ass more than ever.

[@shanecoffing]

@@blurgle9185 if echo copies rein she can EASILY get 2 earth shatters sometimes 3 out of rein. It is completely broken.

[@SatansFire]

Excited to see what he legendary skins look like because theres no way they wont look like the absolute dumbest things no matter how good a designer you get

[@KTNSpooky]

When is this hero coming out on xbox?

[@StonedSpagooter]

new hero: is strong community: WOW I CANT BELIEVE IT

[@jphanson]

Ana: broken on release Doomfist: broken on release Brigitte: broken on release Baptiste: broken on release Sigma: broken on release Echo: perfectly balanced :^)

[@christopher7692]

@@jphanson sombra was pretty bad on release and same with Ana

[@hammurabitheawesome674]

Yeah exactly. That was the case with every single character. Blizz does this intentionally to hype the character up, and then promptly nerf them to their actually balanced state. They perfectly know that she's too broken.

[@VVheeli]

Tune damage a bit, especially the beam, maybe tune the splash radius of her alt fire and her main kit is fine. It’s just the ult that looks busted. Being able to build 2+ ults in that time seems so overkill. Just by eyeballing it, I can probably EMP with an Echo Sombra 3 times easily. You thought it was annoying already? Or 3+ nanos in 1 fight, 2+ Mei blizzards. Her ult is the main problem. Because you know the OW community hates certain ults, doubling it would make the game even worse, tripling would make it unplayable.

[@bloop3211]

Orixa the only new heroes broken on release were brig and doom fist. And doom was broken just because he had unintentional bugs. Also Sigma wasn’t broken, shield meta was broken.

[@seriousspikesam7770]

A new hero... broken at launch... where have I seen this before?

[@nando_ugt]

Tekken 7?

[@emilys3189]

BRIG

[@sleeperthoee]

Idk man, I’ve definitely never seen it in OW before 🤔

[@dudetheguyman]

Wow, I didn't expect them to add a character with X-COPY. That's nuts.

[@DaunteNicholson15]

Wait can you ult into echo and ult with that echo back into your echo?

[@SkipperinoHS]

2:00 Skipperino to gameplayerino

[@wouterphilips8512]

Wrong channel

[@Warchicken-mq2pj]

Dude do you watch the same YT channels I do? Cause I see you everywhere recently

[@RedGallardo]

Everyone: Echo is broken! Me: the very pvp of OW is broken, she fits perfectly

[@jacopof.185]

This is so fucking true...

[@RMJCFaith]

Agreed. I had to uninstall. I don't have even close to the same skill level as most players. I know it isn't all about winning, but when you seem to lose 75% of your games it's just not fun anymore. I'll wait for OW2 to eventually come out with more focus on PvE so I can enjoy the characters properly again.

[@RedGallardo]

@Jay Hart Why uninstall? You paid for the game. I play every day and not a single match in PVP. There are bot matches, there are missions, there are custom games of parkour, finding places and getting to the checkpoint past 6 bot bastions. You should try all these. Many people dislike PVP, that's why Bliz wanna add more PVE. Right now we have all 3 missions back + challenges, you know? Like nullsector but on expert and every time you kill a bot it drops lava Torb style. Hard. Or Retribution but only headshots register damage. A bit easier, but still forced on expert. I have only 2 matches in PVP done. First - when I was lvl 11, barely trying the game. I was put with same noobs vs 6 golden frames. 0 chance. After that I never wanted to try it again. So when I was experienced I gave it one more time. Same shit, only now it was platinum top lvl frames. So yeah, I say FK this, never ever. PVP is cancer. =)

[@RedGallardo]

@Crab in A Top Hat Why sex trafficking?

[@ginger-ham4800]

@@RMJCFaith OW2 is literally just a PVE add-on to OW1. Worthless.

[@lucasdflips9341]

Wait how do you b hop with echo? Is it like CS?

[@benhenderson8952]

Seagull is a Shang Tsung main now

[@RealDids]

You say broken, I say perfectly balanced, as far as Overwatch balancing goes.

[@gingermedman8509]

aka OP, then in a couple months nerfed into oblivion, then in a few more stabilized to mediocrity, as all things should be

[@jaypeterson1324]

Honestly, her design needs to choose between having good damage with nades/laser or utility. Too much of both currently

[@thomasmurrell9832]

How Echo's ult was made: *WARNING: This took place several days before the C-sickness lockdowns.* Jeff; Hey, y'all remember back when the game had that cool mode called Mayhem? Dev: Hmm...was it the one where characters had 1000 hp and had their ults almost instantly? Jeff: Yeah, that one! Dev: I loved that mode! It was so much fun! Jeff; I know, right? Maybe there's a way to bring it back Dev: well there's the community servers. Jeff; I mean in game. Dev: Hmm, lemme see what I can do. ============================ The next day, the ability files were sent to Jeff's computer, with a note that read "You're welcome".

[@the_furf_of_july4652]

Did seagull use the glide ability even once?

[@BigDaddyMacc]

the best hero for flex players :)

[@Andre-gn4sj]

flex players... that play style died with role queue. :/ also giving a hero that somewhat resembles flexing to the dps role... Role queue was a stab in the back, now the devs are really just twisting it in there. i have since role queue played mostly tank and support a few times dps, (shortest queue possible) everyone better enjoy the dps queue. it will be longer with fewer tanks

[@bencurras6778]

She looks so fun to play lmao

[@LightBoltDash]

might be because she is busted op

[@Asylus]

@@LightBoltDash I think they were referring to the play style of echo

[@SIIKAP1]

LightBolt Dash nah it’s just the abilities. Nothing to do with her damage numbers

[@eliasgerlin609]

Yes, for the one dps that gets to Play her

[@B..P..]

@@SIIKAP1 you think only numbers make a hero op ? Nice low elo talk kid.

[@Nyehhhhhh]

I would make it where echo have a super fast ult slower than tracer but she's only allowed one ult from the copy hero and it charges a bit slower she her gameplay is mostly about picking the enemy hero at for the right needs for the fight for example to use beat or nano, or maybe torb ult or my favorite as ball to stalls

[@kirbbar2258]

The ultimate flex hero combined with the ultimate flex birb

[@Andre-gn4sj]

Q: what roles do you think have the most flex players?

[@asphyxiafeeling]

man they oughta revert SOME of the nerfs to shields. With Echo's E shield heroes will be even weaker than they are now

[@darthrevill6293]

If seagull says that Echo is broken, we can all safely say, she isn't

[@darklynx4779]

Kara has really changed since Alice and Luther died

[@mrUhltak]

Echo is a crazy glascannon!

[@Orridy0n]

"So, how much do we wanna steal from Kai'Sa?" "Yes"

[@rjavon136]

I stopped playing overwatch when they added the character type queing. Games took way too long to get into, discouraged me from playing the game at all.

[@adtoxic3344]

same for me. Where is that freedom that we used to have where we could decide what to play spontaniously.

[@puppetuppers4806]

ad toxic just play quick play classic lol

[@blurgle9185]

you morons, old qp is still available in arcade. Takes 30s to get into a game, tops.

[@rjavon136]

@@blurgle9185 ig it's time to play overwatch again

[@neceon4586]

So, I'm quite new to this game. How does that Ult right here work? Does she take over a random enemy hero?

[@neceon4586]

@@Ismail_ibn_Ishaq aight, thanks!

[@karmascamera5275]

Can confirm that canceling her flight and maintaining the momentum through B-hopping is no longer possible as it has been patched out...

[@robbiehutchinson7260]

Echo’s concept art was really cool but they had to make her ugly

[@leeviheiskanen1271]

Echo might be broken... But if OWL does not say that she needs nerf, then she does not get any

[@Sov-Ryn15]

Leevi Heiskanen who cares what other people think. Not like we don’t play the game and have our opinions

[@abhisflyingsoon]

Important: whats the outro song? Need it!!

[@shinayanami]

not surprised

[@manofthewest5395]

Yay. Another OP dps hero to make Reinhardt mains like me miserable. Yay.

[@blurgle9185]

Speaking as a Rein main, she's hardly noticable.

[@ivxy5512]

Controller Players: where the hell is echo jeff

[@allypaige124]

Right, me and my sister are like, ok so when's is she coming out I dont have allbQuarantine to wait lol

[@pirate135246]

its crazy to think this video came out 2 years ago and we still haven't gotten any content

[@Ramo123ism]

*Echo turns into echo which turns into echo*