Dehydrating and Rehydrating Food | Oxygen Not Included

[@apersonwhoisalsohuman2014]

Echo petting his dog at 3:34

[@Ultimatemouse]

i think a rehydrator, liquid reservoir and just straight up storing dehydrated meals in a storage bin would actually be pretty good for long term missions like colonizing new planetoids, you could even load on the water that you're going to use to rehydrate it in the rocket

[@yaroslavbozhdynsky]

and use the storage tile.

[@geoffreyhebel2438]

Yeah Is what I have used it for especially if long distance from home planetoid as can be sent via interplanetary launcher

[@Joakico]

Just fill up a unpowered refrigerator with berry sludge. Each kg of berry sludge holds 4000 calories. So a full refrigerator would store 400.000 calories and only uses two tiles. It also doesn't need extra dupe labor, never spoils no matter what and gives +8 morale just as barbeque. Also most of the best late game foods uses sleet wheat anyway. Pepper bread is my personal favourite although it requires drecko farming and a ton of water.

[@Mr.Sparks.173]

​@@JoakicoI think it's kinda like the oil refinery - it's the easy, but less efficient way to solve the problem of "how do I feed dupes in space?" The more efficient ways would be to feed them berry sludge and cap their skills accordingly, using the skill scrubber to adjust skills if needed. Personally I feel like Berry Sludge should get a nerf (with a corresponding change to its recipe) to give it infinite storage, but moral equal to grissled berry. The idea being is the infinite shelf life comes from the fact that it's ONI's version of hard tack - slightly better than starving so dupes will eat it, but they're not gonna be happy about it.

[@andrehashimoto8056]

That makes Berry Sludge useless for 99% of cases aside Space Travel. If they perhaps changed sleat wheat for maybe Sucrose plus water, or make it a TWO stage Cooked food (First make the starting Sludge with the Musher, then it needs to be cooked in a Gas range with sleat wheat to make the Improved version, both recipes should be reworked to be Mid-game affordable even in starting Asteroids lacking sweetles, and for the work of putting one more cooking step, buff the Morale to maybe a +10.

[@fruity4820]

Its such a shame that this mechanic doesn't stand up to the alternatives, because i really like it aestheticly, i like how the buildings match the gas ranch. The spice grinder and the never sopiling fruit cake (aka the berry slug) feels like they were plucked from dst staight into oni without enough stylisitc changes in order to fit the space colony theme, while the dehydrator mechanic fit the theme so much better, it brings to mind real-life astronaut food, that is often kept in vacuum sealed containers in order to extand its lifespan for space missions that last from several months up to years. I am going to try to use it in my corrant colony (which is also my first long term colony with spaced out), but purly because how much i love the idea of it

[@Pancake_Nix]

I feel the same! I also played a bunch of DST in the past and now that you mention it... 😅 Yea, I was kinda bummed out when I saw how limited use this thing actually has in practice. I was already making a new ship design to fit the rehydrator, thinking whether to just fit a liquid tank module, or to rely on the ship's "piped water reserves" and then use local water. This is my first play-through outside the classic game where I'm utilizing steam rockets and I was thinking maybe just load some extra steam into the gas cargo module and pump it out as emergency water source one the dupes have landed. But then I saw the packs don't stack, that they don't show up anywhere as kcal, and that I have no real means of tracking it and making sure my rockets automatically get filled with correct amount of food, I completely scraped the project and just loaded up the packs I already made as emergency food.

[@Joakico]

I feel like it requiring so much dupe labour makes it not worth it. It would be good if it could be totally automated, and the food could be re-hydrated manually for space travel. Making the dehydrator/rehydrator with output pipes and no requiring dupe labour at all. And the rehydrated food having no morale penalty unless eaten just moments of being rehydrated. So you can have a fridge with a limited space of 2-3 kg lets say. And with shipping you could rehydrate the food and put it in the refrigerator. The dupes would first eat the food without the debuff, and so on. When that food is eaten, the next cycle the rehydrator would do its job and the previously food that had the morale debuff would no longer have it. Also fits well because you could argue that in space the food could be eaten right away, causing the morale penalty.

[@Pancake_Nix]

@@Joakico I actually don't mind the dupe labor that much as when I'm exploring other planetoids with my main team of dupes, the others often idle a lot. But the extra labor does make it less viable for use in a situation you described, where you would use it for general food, not just for the astro-dupes. I don't think it was meant as a main food source cos as far as I know this is Spaced Out! only content, so I'm guessing it was primarily meant as a alternative to berry sludge for use in space missions. We might hope for some future improvements on the matter, but sadly, I doubt they will make it in such a way it will be usable like you described.

[@auto6485]

I like using it for space exploration. Build a storage tile to store the dehydrated food under the dehydrator (same size as the fridge), and let it use the already existing snake piping full of water that was there for the toilet and you can have a very easy way to explore and build up the data banks early on. Really helps early game if you don't start with access to berry sludge and have a tendency (like I do a lot) to forget to reset the fridge and launch with nearly spoiled food or none at all.

[@blacklight683]

I feel so,so,SO stupid that i never thought about it i was like "why would i need this?" And kept making berry sludge and now i just realized i could have used this And i feel even stupider about not using the spice grinder+refrigerator Ok maybe i would stay on berry sludge but if i ever needed fast food i will definitely use the grinder... yea no am not convinced its worth it to use this

[@Pancake_Nix]

I have over 1400h in this game and I completely missed the fact that the spice grinder+fridge can create nonperishable food in a sense. So don't feel bad😄 And yea, sadly it's just not a viable alternative to Berry Sludge. Since I almost starved out my best team after a "refueling mishap" on the ocean world I now keep some of these dehydrated packs in my main rockets for the case of emergency, but nothing more than that really. I haven't even used them outside of testing to see how it worked. *Hopefully* they improve on some of its features to make it a much more viable space-food alternative.

[@blacklight683]

@@Pancake_Nix that's a smart idea to let them be last resort emergency food, will be taking that ty very much

[@LawdBreaktwist]

the dehydrated food sounds like a decent "last resort reserves" option, since it's not going to crush morale as much as eating dirt

[@SpottedHares]

I'm guessing this was thought of as a more efficient means of trainspotting the food needed for a colony ship, assuming you do rocketry normally and don't tardius your rocket. Since you can carry a lot of different and much higher quality of food then berry sludge for only water (which thanks to the rocket liquid tank is not hard to carry a lot of). Since water is now your food and your oxygen supply you can just throw a tonn of liquid tanks on your rocket you can carry a massive amount of surviveability with out needing much diverse resources.

[@TheAngryForest]

Thanks for the informative video Echo! I wish the dehydrator had a bigger pay off than a deep freezer.

[@klofat]

Great for shipping my excess frostburgers with Interplanetary Launcher to feed the Experiment 52B. While sitting in the Laucher often gramms got spoil or it got bad before tree could eat it.

[@phongcao2945]

How did you rehydrate it without dupe labor tho ?

[@klofat]

One poor little Abe is on the tree-planet and rehydrating. Living from a poluted O2 vent and the leftovers.@@phongcao2945

[@Thegentechgamer]

Make a tutorial on how to deal with the stress that comes from your failures and regrets when building the colony compounded by the fact that your duplicants are dumber than a rock and will make anything go wrong if it can go wrong

[@imperialspacemarine1539]

technically the dehydrater is quite usefull: if have an enormous surplus of food but little to no water access. if you would have thrown away the food because you couldnt use it up in time before it spoiled and also dont have space for a deepfreezer just suck the water out and you can store it for a rainy day while using the water somwhere else. its ineffective and slow but its a usable water source! also does the heat of the water heat the food? what happens if you for exxample let water of 90 degrees run into it? will the food be hot? will the machine be hot? will the heat just delete itself? that would be quite interessting. Also the fact that the calories of dehydrated food do not show up and the dupes choosing literally anything else before dehydrated stuff may be related. i dont know if how dupes choose food but i bet that the amount of calories of it you have play a role. they maybe rather choose a food that you have more of and that means that literally everything would be chosen before 0 cals of food since anything > 0

[@stends113]

They have to make the dupes eat already available food first, because if the dupes preferred rehydrated food first, then it would be hard to store/transport, but also they would never eat already rehydrated food (if dehydrated food was available), meaning the left overs are guaranteed to spoil. There is no way around it. I still think the dupe labor time is a bit too long. However, it does potentially (not tried it yet) allow for methods of supplying remote colonies from one kitchen, for veery little power, it can have decent uses. You could potentially have your super-dupes do remote work with higher morale, and poor facilities.

[@transnewt]

the dehydrator is good for moving high quality food around. in every other case, its beat.

[@Pancake_Nix]

I do hope they fix the not showing up as calories and the packets of food not stacking. The main reason why I haven't used this building so much* is that the packs don't stack which makes them even harder to track cos they show up as individual listings in a storage compartment. I already like to keep storage very limited so I can quickly see how much of each material they contain and an endless list just straight up kills me. The other issue is that even with my very decent CPU my game will start to stagger a bit after about 600-800 cycles and I really like to stack up debris/items as much as possible to cut down on calculations the game needs to do every second and an endless stack of food doesn't really seem viable for me. Which is sad, cos when they released this, I was sure this will set a new standard for space-food, but with the current disadvantages I'm only using it sparingly as emergency MRE's. The dupes preferring any other edible food vs. the dehydrated one is actually a PRO in my opinion. One of the issues I have is the micromanaging of consumables for my astro-dupes. At least until the colonies are running on gas range food, their nonperishables have to constantly be disabled and enabled, otherwise they clean out their shuttle of canned tuna and berry sludge while the local foods spoils. *is because I have been running the Canned Food mod (which is just the best for a space-loving dupe like me! It gives you more options than just the standard Berry Sludge, cos one thing I hate about ONI is that some systems are just "must-use" in every single play-through. Just like any big base will have a steam turbine + AT setups for heat deletion, I find that every single base since I started playing Spaced Out ends up with a huge Sleet Wheat farm for the Berry Sludge). I highly recommend this mod. It's also stable and doesn't infringe on other mods - I run at least 20 simultaneously and I haven't had a single crash in my current colony that's been going for almost 700 cycles now.

[@phatbman]

You can use an ethanol chiller if you want instead of a steam turbine if that helps :)

[@Pancake_Nix]

@@phatbman I was actually surprised to see that worked so well in Echo's current play-through, and I will definitely use that on a smaller asteroid, but for my main bases, the amount of industry I do, I would have to have so many of them it would take over way too much space. I've also recently figured out that Beetas provide some passive cooling. I set up one hive at the bottom of my main base early on (Radioactive asteroid start) to eat up any excess CO2 and a couple of hundred cycles later I noticed that the area around them has been cooled from about 10-20°C (50-68F) to -19°C (-2.2F). But even combining that with an ethanol chiller I don't think that would do enough cooling for 10x steam turbines that are running off the heat generated by the nuclear reactor or even the 6 turbines running off the industrial sauna. Sadly nothing can match the AT at the moment when it comes to cooling power, especially if you feed it Super Coolant or nuclear waste.

[@davidarseneau8127]

I actually find these buildings incredibly useful for space travel. The rehydrator is small and uses only a small bit of water, and you're going to have water on board anyways for a wall toilet. All the talk is about berry sludge but you don't always have access to all the ingredients to make it unless you go really out of your way. The dehydrator/rehydrator opens it up to a bunch of different foods that you're going to want to make for your colony anyways, and gives a lot more flexibility. I would never use it to support my general colony, given the time investment to make it, but it's a game-changer for rockets. I do wish it would include some of the higher-quality foods from the electric grill, like barbeque or cooked seafood, but perhaps it's also another incentive to work towards the gas range top quality foods. Anyways, love these new building.

[@keithstathem872]

If you're short on water, you can dehydrate any excess food and harvest the water. Also, dehydrated food should melt into naphtha, so the system turns 12 kg plastic and 6000 kcal food into 6 kg water and 6kg naphtha. The unfortunate part is there is no way to get meal lice into the gas range, so it can't be dehydrated. The only thing to do with unwanted meal lice is still to let it rot and use the pdirt for something.

[@kofdmf]

This would be perfect for rocket travel and exporting food to new colony before setting up sustainable local food production , if there is no stack issue (dehydrated food package can not stack) which affects the game performance.

[@tie5360]

I'd love to see more mind over magic videos. It was such a good video

[@inybisinsulate]

If the packaged food could be disposed of it could be a water-positive system.

[@Jehty_]

Would it be? How much water is needed to make the food in the first place?

[@georgeholland5052]

Personally hoping that Klie makes the deep freezer even harder to make or more impratical while also nerfing berry sludge. If they changed to task of dehydrating to operating + didn't lock it behind plastic (which is what locks the deep freezer) I think it would already be a great option. ONI is all about finding simple/effective designs, and in its current state the dehydrator is not worth the squeeze.

[@Wigfrid001]

Keep up the good content 🎉

[@steamavila1818]

when I play ONI I like to role play, example: when launching a rocket and exploring other asteroids, I do like when I run out of food, oxygen, fuel etc, it forces me to be careful and plan accordingly, I know there are certain methods to not have to worry about such things, but i like it this way, its way more realistic IMO, I think the same thing about food, food should expire, plus you get something from expired food.

[@Pancake_Nix]

While I totally agree to some extent. I had such a Subnautica vibe when getting graphite from the ocean world, cos I couldn't refill my rocket with steam underwater. Before I noticed it just kept breaking all the pipes I was left with so little steam in the gas cargo module, I had to go all the way to the surface, make a new pad, launch the rocket, land it back on the new pad, make a quick "tricked-tepidizer" setup to generate steam all the while my food supplies were dwindling. When I was finally able to refuel the rocket and launch it, I had two cycles of food left and it took 1.7 cycles for my dupes to fly home. And the snag with the refueling and getting close to starving out my best team was actually more fun than the exploration itself. With that said, I also think that there have to be options, especially for the late game when there's so many things happening simultaneously, you really need to have a full-proof systems for certain issues or you end up having a really bad time cos you're constantly distracted by some menial micromanaging that doesn't add anything to your gaming experience, just shortens the time you have available to actually play the game and have fun.

[@BouncingTribbles]

Great video. The buildings seem novel, but I had the same conclusions you have. My immediate, gut reaction, was to dislike it. Centrally is two issues: dehydrated food is eaten as is, people don't rehydrate their beef jerky; the second thing is I can't make jerky. They seem to need some refinement in the ai, for sure, just bug fixing. The concept in general needs a lot of work though. It's competing directly with spiced food in a refrigerator, literally the last system they added. It needs huge buffs to be worth it. The only edge case would be a no salt or mealwood start that also didn't have sleetwheat

[@Pancake_Nix]

The fact that it's competing with an existing system is a good thing. We need to have variety, otherwise every single play-through ends up with having the exact same systems in place, which gets extremely boring and tedious once you've played the game long enough. I do agree this whole system needs some polishing. I would say the time required would have to be lowered to a maximum of 200s, the packets absolutely need to stack and show up as calories at least in the resources tab and I'd say it also needs an output pipe, cos having to put that 4x4 space for a pump just makes the already limited-space we have on SO asteroids even more limiting. And my immediate reaction was to love it as I like to have variety and having multiple options to choose from, and with some of those fixes it could become a viable space-food alternative, but right now I see it more as a niche thing with limited usefulness as well.

[@Jehty_]

Dehydrated food for astronauts gets hydrated before eating. I think that's what they were going for and not beef jerky.

[@BouncingTribbles]

@@Pancake_Nix I meant competing in the positive sense, it just needs to make sense to use it; I like options too. And I agree with your suggestions. I'd also like the plastic required to be way lower. One change I've dreamed about for a while is for all buildings to have a pipe outlet, but allow a vent to be built directly into the machine's output.

[@BouncingTribbles]

@@Jehty_ it was joke

[@Pancake_Nix]

@@BouncingTribbles I see. Sorry, I maybe chose my words poorly to make it sound like I'm criticizing. And I agree: way more buildings should have output pipes. Like the coal and petro generators even have a visible chimney in their sprite, why the hell can't that connect to a pipe? I mean even smaller outside ovens people build on their back-yards or vacation homes have a small chimneys so the smoke doesn't fill the surrounding area. And we have generators spewing tons of gas all around them and while luckily we don't have toxic gasses in ONI it still just feels wrong for those building to vent their by-products directly into the surrounding area. For one, we desperately need an Alloy-maker. A machine in which you could combine refined metals with eachother to make better materials from which you could craft advanced buildings that would do everything their low-tech counterparts do, but they would have more output ports, better automation ports and maybe other bonuses like either producing less heat, or slightly more power/fuel unit, etc. My first thought was "that's way too much plastic for such a small pack" as well. But then we usually have so much plastic by late game you just don't care about wasting some. But initially I agree, the plastic req. could easily be halved to 1kg/1000kcal.

[@Jehty_]

On my current colony, the first time I've ever build a rocket, I almost killed a dupe because all the food in the rocket spoiled. Oops. So when reading the title I got existed to now have a better option for food for spacetravel. But looking at the cons, I think I will stick with berry sludge.

[@Pancake_Nix]

If you aren't against running mods, I highly recommend the mod *Canned Food.* It is a simple, small mod that gives you more options for space food than just the berry sludge. I'm really not happy that the base game just offers BS as the only viable food source for our space-dupes and i don't think it's "cheat-y" in any way. It just makes the game more enjoyable cos you can can 🥫 most of the foods made with the grill, so not every single colony has to end up with a Sleet Wheat/Blossom farm. Plus it gives my non-operator dupes something to do while my main team is exploring other asteroids :D

[@Jehty_]

@@Pancake_Nix I love mods, but not in a video game I just started playing. Maybe after I finished a few colonies I will start experiment with mods. Gonna keep that mod in the back of my mind 👍

[@Pancake_Nix]

@@Jehty_ Oh, I totally understand that. I usually play without mods on my first play-through as well. I did started using some basic mods in ONI quite early on, but just the Bigger Camera Zoom and Bigger Capacity (for storage containers) which don't really affect game-play, just adds some convenience for you as a player. Good luck with your colony and if you have any questions Echo hasn't covered yet, feel free to ask. I love talking about this game :D

[@Jehty_]

@@Pancake_Nix 😁 the bigger camera zoom is the one mod I installed almost instantly after starting playing. Had already forgotten about that. Thanks for the kind words.

[@meesoedontask5562]

So Rehydrator... POINTLESS... Got it... Dehydrator... Also pointless... Except when coal is a desperate need and you need to feed the Hatches... GOT IT...

[@martinjejcic]

You mention being able to only feed 6 dupes off 1 dehydrator and them not preferring it, but I think you're thinking of it in the wrong way. The dehydrated food is for emergencies and special missions, not the normal every-cycle meal. Your dupes *should* be eating the fresh food if it's available, with only excess food that would otherwise spoil getting dehydrated. That way when you have an oopsie you have the banked dehydrated food to fall back on while you reestablish normal production. If you're only overproducing food a not insane amount a single dehydrator can easily handle it. Say you have a 25 dupe colony and are overproducing food by 50%? The dehydrator can about handle that excess. Of course, you're completely correct that the deep freezer does all this, and without extra dupe labor. IMO, if Klei removed the plastic cost the balance might work better. I could see myself using it then on a run where I'm not rushing plastic or don't have easy access to dreckos.

[@jonumine6250]

It would be nice placing a rehydrator in a rocket, BUT it uses a lot of water, which I would definitely reserve for the toilet only. IMO, it's just better making barbeque (or more superb foods if feeling fancy) and using berry sludge as emergency/rocket food only. AND the dehydrator not only takes 250 seconds but also consume electricity during that period!! The ONLY way I see this being better than berry sludge is making a million kcal and send them to a new planetoid, (with a water source, like the regolith asteroid with coll steam vents) And even then, berry sludge is still superior in all ways! My only fix would be... -Reduce the total time to dehydrate (both process and supplying task) -make the food drop/use less water, 1kg of water, with a liquid output ofc. -make it use like 1kg of plastic, 12kg sound like too much. -Remove the penalty for rehydrated food!!! Isn't the superb quality the only advantage against berry sludge?

[@stevenwojtysiak6392]

With everything going against the de/re hydrator, I feel like the only thing really keeping it from being super useful is how broken berry sludge is. Like, if you were going to play a "No BS" challenge, then it would likely be worth to have them in the end game, for colonizing or mining the edge hexegons...

[@zenanzha6892]

I feel berry sludge is very hard to produce, because it requires a lot of cool water to grow those plants.

[@ivanmarcusdegoeslopes1705]

It's really Good for long space operations since you can sends marvelous amounts of food without bothering with a deep freeze sistem or the clock tick before said sistem is online. I don't think It's suposed to be used in the main base whatsoever

[@Engvall100]

i like the concept of them, kinda like the freeze dried food they said astronauts ate, don't see the practical use case tho berry sludge fixes it in game

[@Fleurise003]

One advantage is that you can circulate dehydrated food through conveyors but other than teleporters and micro-managing food distribution I don't see how that really changes the game.

[@1killagoku]

These buildings are good but ofc they made this without nerfing berry sludge. BUT I see these buildings as an alternative for those like me who dont want to make berry sludge every playthrough lol. So we dont have to be sort of forced to make berry sludge for space missions and so we can use these to keep our dupes eating top tier food to retain some morale. So to me these are good additions, but not mandatory which is perfectly fine.

[@phatbman]

Hidden echo sure loves his dog :)

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

Nice job!

[@Olimar90]

3:34 What breed of hatch is that one you're petting And also, I have a impossible challenge for you, find a actual good use fot the ORE SCRUBBER!

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

That is an impossible challenge ha.

[@Daergard]

That's a great question. I used to set them up in the hallways where I was digging out slime to kill the slimelung germs, but then I discovered making a chlorine room with storage bins in it was WAAAAY more efficient (chlorine never gets used up) and faster.

[@Pancake_Nix]

Hello, Echo. Thanks for the guide. I really like they added this. I haven't used it extensively yet, tho I do have some dehydrated food on my main colony ship just in case. :D Also I was wondering since I don't have a Twitch account to go and check - when are you usually streaming? I'm located in middle Europe and catching NA streams is sometimes hard, even for a night-owl like me.

[@nxaantoch]

Considering you live in CET/GMT+1 timezone (like me): He usually streams starting around 19.00 on Sundays and 22.30 on Wednesdays. Occasionally throwing in a Friday Variety starting on 19.00 as well. You should come by some time. It's fun!

[@Pancake_Nix]

@@nxaantoch Yes, you're right, I am in the CET-zone :D I would have settled for American timezones, but this was perfect, thanks! I'll make a Twitch account and try to drop by on Sunday :)

[@balijosu]

Gotta wonder if this is step one toward nerfing berry sludge.

[@clarfonthey]

Hmm, that is really disappointing. Given all of the obvious cons, you'd think they'd at least add in a few more positives, like being able to reuse the plastic once you rehydrate the food. The bugs surrounding actually measuring the amount of food definitely seems like some quality klei jank.

[@kylegarms4571]

Can you use it to dehydrate garbage foods, to just get the water out of it for low water planets? then just ship the food to another planet or store it in a pile. Does it decrease the weight of the food enough to make it viable to use it to compact food when transporting it to the tree planet for resin? Those are my 2 thoughts for use cases. Toilets can get you infinite water too, but that is polluted water and it is limited by your number of dups. This would be limited by the amount of dup work that can be done.

[@jessybelike]

I guess you could make dehydrated food and send it to another planet with solid transfer, then never worry about the food being contaminated and don't have to automate food production on said planet? I think it'll be semi useful when you have dupes temporarily on another planet to dig out everything. just a set of bunkers, latrine (or wall toilet emptying to space if its easier), spom, and simple meal room with rehydrator. Everything else? dig! that being said, I don't know if dehydrated food can be contaminated, if it can, then berry sludge might still be easier.

[@sylvaincoulonges8288]

I agree, it could be useful for sending to sub-colony, especialy since it doesn't request cooking skill for rehydrating

[@balijosu]

You too will eventually spoil. Unless you freeze yourself i guess.

[@TheAntoine185]

Sad about this. It could be used in rockets but still berry sludge wins

[@Gloppy]

Can the dehydrated food be put on the interplanetary launcher and sent to various planetoids (like a water one)? Might be a useful way to get out of a bind if food production breaks down.

[@All_Night]

Yes

[@AudunRoald]

Im trying to find a video tutorial on how to melt plastic, I cant find much other than late game stuff. Could you please do a video on different ways to melt plastic? Especially in the early to mid game? I want to use Naptha to make the liquid locks be more efficient on dupe travel time by going through naptha rater than the traditional water lock.

[@bughouse26]

When playing w/ Draconian morale and Frankly Depressing stress difficulty settings, having a +15 morale space food is a tremendous advantage over berry sludge's +8. I also find the dehydrator more easily sustainable and less labor intensive vs. spice grinder. So while deep freezing remains the best on planetoids, I now prefer using the dehydrator on rockets.

[@ethanblack5642]

I comment to help statisitcs

[@SaintGerbilUK]

Are there other benefits for example does the dehydrated food suffer from being in a non-sterile atmosphere or polluted atmosphere like regular foods?

[@phongcao2945]

No

[@SaintGerbilUK]

That's a shame

[@ZaneBlade88]

TL/DR To much effort when you can make way better things. Like if it quartered the weight so transport was faster and the machines could be automated it may have a reason. or you could just use it MRE style and didn't need that rehydrator the morale penalty would be worth it.

[@anibarukyouran1145]

Unlike the critter condos or P.E.G.G.Y. I don't see the point of making these, also maybe it was just me but each time I made this building the game crashed more often :/

[@andrehashimoto8056]

Technically it is so the Top end foods could be kept Edible forever, so you can always rely on those foods for Morale upkeep without the hassle of creating Deep freezers and storing ONLY spiced food (with the Decay reducer spice) there. Those setups either need creative construction, rely on the Asteroid having AETN to easily keep said storage within a deep freeze temp range, and need you to plan for it by preparing CO2 to dump in that deep freezer. At the cost one -1 Morale from the food, Water (Which there's so many ways to keep the Use/production ratio positive for that it is barely an issue for anyone remotely ok in managing ONI colonies) and a space that could been used for a fridge or statue, you get unperishable good food.

[@chalor182]

No dehydrated meal lice? Boooo

[@Caldaron]

maybe the re and dehydrator is for people that dont cheese the game?^^

[@sylvaincoulonges8288]

what's cheesing with berry sludge, spice and deep freeze?

[@craig_ehhhhhhhhh]

first :D

[@yaroslavbozhdynsky]

Is it stored in a fridge or a bin when dehydrated?

[@Pancake_Nix]

Bin.