Did Star Wars Outaws KILL Ubisoft...?

[@dustybunny6716]

I think their AAAA garbage pirate game gave them a fatal wound and this was the final nail in the coffin.

[@danielnam9026]

AC Shadows will end them considering many Japanese is boycotting the game.

[@Dexter037S4]

@@danielnam9026 Not true, they just don't care. AC was never popular in Japan, ever, the games never sold well there at all, and most just really don't give a shit.

[@RjxDare]

​@Dexter037S4 it's more the money spent on AC shadows and people not buying it will. I'm a AC Fan and it's definitely gone down hill even with mirage going "back to it's roots" but the whole bs with how much of an agenda they're shoving down my throat is too much

[@MrGamerxpert]

@@RjxDare But there isn't an agenda

[@brandonspencer7093]

​@MrGamerxpert there's such an obvious agenda that you can only be arguing in bad faith.

[@STRAKAZulu]

Ubisoft shot themselves in the foot with their comments about not owning the games you pay for. Top that off with lackluster releases and predatory "Special Editions" for those games...

[@theonewhowrotethis5681]

Yeah, those comments basically convinced me to boycott their digital releases from here on out. Physical or bust for their games at this point, and only if it's confirmed that offline play is possible (so they can't yank the game away later down the road).

[@thiccchungo1041]

⁠​⁠@@theonewhowrotethis5681yeah Ubisoft acting the way they have really drove me away from getting The Crew Motorfest (pun fully intended)

[@lukaskubik4698]

You do know that Steam works the same way, right ? You do not own a game but a licence to play that game, that can be taken away. Just because Steam doesn't shout that out doesn't mean they aren't doing the exact same thing.

[@BoeBins]

I actually agree with Ubisoft on that one. I am very comfortable not owning any of their games.

[@pedroburgos1688]

@@lukaskubik4698 Agreed 100% and in addtion , Steam shows you like , yeah we know is licence but still we are doing as much as we can so you don't have to worry to have it remove unless it is are awful issue like the Hell divers 2 and PSN BS , and even with that Steam refunds the money , Ubisoft is more on the screw you and your refund hahaha

[@davidordaz5251]

No star wars outlaws didnt kill Ubisoft they did it to themselves. Glad i never bought this game at all tbh

[@TotalDrganMania]

I'm glad I only paid for a month of Ubisoft plus instead of buying it. That let me play the game for arguably the price its worth and enjoy it at least a little bit. I agree that its bland, though, but, I will say I had fun for a little bit with it

[@raynortownly7098]

​@@TotalDrganManiaWhat's bland about it. Thought it was great fun. Not 70 bucks fun. But then again, I don't know what is nowadays. Put simply it's cool to hate Ubisoft.

[@TotalDrganMania]

@@raynortownly7098 Nah, I don't hate Ubisoft. I said I had my fun with this game. I just think the game is a bit bland for a few reasons. The npc's you walk around feel pretty static, the gameplay loop, while fun for awhile, does get a bit old, and the story, while decent, isn't anything special.

[@raynortownly7098]

@@TotalDrganMania It's Disney Star Wars, where were your expectations at. Jeez. It's doubly weird, cause we had plenty of previews. It was clear what you were gonna get. Serviceable gameplay and story. Actually I really like the story so far. Compared to Disney's recent output, it's actually fairly good. I gave a siit about the main character and nix, cound not care less about fallen order guy, or any of the tv show people.

[@huntergilbert1391]

Yea, Ubisoft has been on a downwards slope on my opinion for about a decade. Excluding rainbow six siege- the last Ubisoft game i bought was Assassin’s Creed Black Flag (came out in 2013)

[@subtilizer5657]

Ubisoft killed Ubisoft before everything with Star Wars happened. Pretty much most games after 2010s have been hits or misses. Most misses

[@davidordaz5251]

Yeah true though their releases for games arent that good haven’t been for a while

[@Dori-Ma]

Whaaaat!? You mean it's a bad idea for a company of 19,000 employees, spread across five continents, 25 countries, and 48 cities to constantly use 6-12 of those studios/offices from across the globe to Frankenstein... I mean make, a single game? Who would've thunk it? /sarcasm off

[@ashfox7498]

@@Dori-Ma you could make a 2 hour video essay about how Ubisoft is a horribly run company that is only alive from momentum and barely scratch the surface

[@Jordan-xm6wo]

Its disappointing. Valhalla was the only game Ive enjoyed of their games since the decade change

[@kohtalainenalias]

go woke go broke

[@michaelstewart3384]

Bout to play battlefront 2 2005

[@thewanderer1663]

Playing with any mods?

[@michaelstewart3384]

Remastered battlefront 2

[@mr.t-rex3113]

W

[@scurrwalker]

Great choice

[@00spinz35]

Mos eisley hero assault , when 4 yodas come around the corner and give you a thrashing

[@Nova-Franconia]

The only way Outlaws would've ever delivered, is if its gameplay and story actually focused on "Outlaws". Creating a highly illegal intergalactic smuggling & spice trading organization while making morally questionable choices is what I envision under "an outlaw". Instead we get this goody two-shoes "too cool for the Empire ;-)" bs, that's only connection to it being an "Outlaw", is the MC being anti-Imperial. So they basically just made another Rebel story line, how intuitive.

[@hazyviewpoint7194]

It's just a hauf'n schmarrn

[@MrQuantumInc]

Star Wars is a universe of Black and White morality, always has been, they literally take time to talk about the "light side" and "dark side". In the original trilogy the government that officially rules the government is based on the Nazis, and talk about ruling through fear. The Rebel Alliance is never really shown to be immoral, despite being outlaws in the most literal sense of the term, unless you count the people who happened to be on the Death Star for some reason. Of course you can have grey morality in this setting, but you shouldn't assume that just because of the word "outlaw". Go watch "Andor" I guess.

[@Yuckyuck1870]

@@MrQuantumIncwho cares though? Star Wars universe is so big, it could of been something more. Definently more. It didn’t have to be the happy go lucky, I’d rather have a darker story than not. Prevents games like this where it’s devoid of creative.

[@Supreme-vy3gu]

Servus

[@entityuntombed]

@@MrQuantumInc thats a lame excuse.

[@banishedepsilon1802]

Ubisoft really needs to take a break from making open world games. Their increasingly poor reputation with the genre has been making fewer gamers willing to spend $70+ on the same formula they've seen for at least a decade now.

[@ashfox7498]

The problem is that poor reputation comes in large part from Ubisoft and their games. It would be like asking Bethesda to make a linear FPS game and then being surprised when they make it in Creation engine; the problem is in not the recipe it's the cook.

[@michaellane5381]

Worse, stealth open world Star Wars....

[@hersir557]

Every assassin's creed has been open world. They might limit you in the beginning but still a literal open world game where you can interact with the environment and the first few ones were great. At some point it became a money thing instead of a good game thing so that's what happened.

[@ongobongo8333]

Outlaws is good

[@calebbridges4748]

​@@ongobongo8333reality, the world, and Ubi's stock price disagree. Nobody here has to prove it though. You're simply as wrong as one could be about a subject that's ultimately subjective. But by any meaningful measure, you're being a shill.

[@grimm_comics]

Refusing to release on Steam killed Ubisoft..

[@AJadedLizard]

That's such a strange choice, too. Ubisoft's been in bed with Valve for almost a decade now, why wouldn't they release it for a platform they're already full integrated with? That's like choosing not to release it on the PS5.

[@Austin-sw3mf]

Yeah, I absolutely don't get that. If you're releasing it on PC, which you SHOULD be doing in the year of our Lord 2024, maybe dropping the game on what's by far the biggest client is a good idea.

[@ghosthdizzle2846]

That ain’t the only reason. Their games are shit tier quality.

[@PeRoXiDe608]

Uhhh yeah because that would make it not DEI woke shit. Great reasoning .

[@isoalma]

reviews would have been too low

[@Obi-WanKenobiTheHighGround]

The game’s going down a path I can’t follow

[@tvrkm6897]

But I can watch tumbling into the distance from what is now the high ground. I am generally on the middle ground, but I could be on the low ground, roasting marshmallows over lava, and looking down on where this game is going. And, far further down, Concord and Dustborn.

[@Poopyboy267]

Cannot *

[@KiltedCritic]

Yep, back 20 odd years when failures in stealth segments of games just reloaded your last checkpoint.

[@Y_tho]

It’s breaking my heart

[@tdkreturns-batcavepictures1224]

Ubisoft: "You turned them against me!"

[@qdaniele97]

I think it's the same general problem that many big studios/publishers face, like Bethesda: Over time, they started sticking closer and closer to their old tried-and-true formulas, applying them to every new game they release, just with a new flavor and a bit of a technical upgrade (higher resolution, larger maps, DLSS, etc.). So Bethesda started pumping out Skyrim-like games, and Ubisoft keeps making Assassin’s Creed-like games, some of which were still quite good and fun. But after so many iterations, we've finally reached a point where the same old formula just isn’t working anymore. Those big hits of the past had their flaws (similar to the ones we see today), but at the time, they were groundbreaking and innovative, which overshadowed the problems. But now the magic is mostly gone and those same old flaws are much harder to overlook.

[@ancientdruid9751]

Agreed. The most common criticism about this game is lack of innovation, even as reviewers (including Eckhart) say that the game is fun to play. In movie terms, it’s a middle of the road comedy, not an Oscar winning drama.

[@winzyl9546]

This is what we call an "excel business". There is no incentive for the business to innovate or even listen to customers, the goal here is to make metrics go up. Metrics like sales, play time, player activity on micro $$$, platform accounts (PSN, Xbox live..), etc.. These determine the basis for predictions that the share price might go up this quarter. There are little to no new opportunities being made, because new opportunities that deviate from the norm can't be justified without the metrics.

[@SignoftheMagi]

Outlaws was the theme we wanted, a non-Force smuggler focused game, but the product had little to offer. We wanted character creation, deep interaction in the universe, starship customization, gear and skill to personalize our style, and honestly a better looking game. This game...just didn't do it. It looks and feels boring. I am a starship nut, and her ship was a box. A boring box. This is STAR WARS, with some of the most unique and interesting starship designs in any franchise...and even the ship is boring.

[@captainfach]

I will agree about the ship. It grew on me a little and I liked how the engines moved based on speed, but it's still pretty boxy

[@01Eldar]

Well said

[@ZacharyDietze]

"Ubisoft Admits Star Wars Outlaws Underperformed" *In other news, water makes things wet*

[@eddyd8814]

punching out armored troopers with bare hands? Lol

[@burddog0792]

While the animation just has them freezing and taking it.

[@nuclearsimian3281]

No fucking kidding, that's the part that breaks my disbelief too. Give her a fucking taser prod that's designed to knock them out instead of that stupid toy she's carrying, something like a Zat from Stargate or an Icer from Agents of Shield in a melee weapon. Its hard for men in armor to knock men in armor out. Its going to be harder for anyone trying to do it quickly, quietly, and when around others.

[@kohtalainenalias]

woke women characters can do that

[@burddog0792]

@@nuclearsimian3281 That requires new animations.

[@millenniumf1138]

Kyle Katarn says hi.

[@loganbrown3334]

Outlaws didn't kill Ubisoft, Ubisoft's leadership killed it. If the leadership had been different, and cared more about making a game for gamers, and not this broken slop, Ubisoft wouldn't be in their current predicament. Outlaws being the slop filled flop that it was, was nothing more than the consequence of a series of failures stemming from the top of the company and working its way down.

[@ashfox7498]

Any time I hear anything about Ubisoft it's just another example of the upper management failing to run the company well, chasing every trend mindlessly and pioneering new ways to jack up prices and charge players for more while providing less. That or "the latest open world ubisoft game is just full of check the box content, it's disappointingly mid and not worth the outrageous price they charge." which inevitably goes on sale 50% in 6 months but still isn't worth it

[@joesheridan95]

Yeah from what i saw over the last few years it the last really really well received big game they released (AND HANDLED WELL AFTERWARDS) was basically Anno 1800.. and that thing came out in 2019. 5 Years ago. And the Anno-series wasn´t even a ubisoft-property at start. The roots go back to a studio from austria that was then overtaken by ubisoft and a publisher in germany. Those games are still made by a mostly german team. But city builders, especially complex city builders, are just not enough to hold up a company like Ubisoft. Especially when you think about the fact that the strategy-market is concentrated on Paradox in no little way. Okay Paradox is a bad example, they did enough frack-up´s over the last few years themselfs, but still: The market share of that company is a big factor when it goes to strategy games. Ubisoft, same as EA and Paradox, just got to greedy over the last 10-20 years. As soon as video games came into the view of wallstreet and other exchanges they lost the path that made the indutry great over the 20-30 years before: Earlier studio heads were real game devs who understood and supported the dev-projects with a destination in mind, that target was: Build a well working, well tested game with a lot of immersion - in short: Design a product that has a good value within in, so that the customers buy it with a smile in their face. We mostly lost that path as soon as the former or active game dev´s at the controls were replaced by career managers that were selected by pureblood investors.

[@Nobody.exe50]

no Dog at the end ? :(

[@CaptainGrackle]

Don't ask questions. Just consume product and then get excited for more product.

[@adamkares7549]

That's right, Jayyyyy

[@CD-ek3iq]

Oh my Gaaaaaaaawd!

[@Coroplocs-Chameleon]

People are smarter than that. Keep that in mind

[@George-yq6st]

What are next?!

[@CantankerousDave]

- I am a consumer whore! - And how!

[@jimminent2]

You know, I wanted to go into videogame design when I was a kid. The late 2000s/early 2010s were practically the peak of gaming's evolution. Now, looking at the state of the industry and all the big games (aside from Indy games, which you don't need a job to do), I'm actually glad I didn't go down this path. Kinda bittersweet...

[@RaySkihorsky]

Funny thing is i applied 10 years ago at ubisoft as marketing trainee. Glad I got rejected :D

[@tdkreturns-batcavepictures1224]

I concur. I even wanted to write scripts for Videogames originally.

[@Lucky_RFMDA]

And here I am playing and enjoying galactic campaigns in Empire at war, an almost 20 years old game (although with the AotR mod) and I always have fun, unless the AI decides to throw me like 2 or 3 dozens of MC-80 Justice cruisers, I still have bad memory of that battle. Seriously, we need a modern remake of that game.

[@wyattcummings7241]

The thing is I want Empire At War 2, but I don’t trust them to make it well. Same thing with Total War, I’d love med 3 or empire 2, but I know they’d never make it good because they just can’t make good games anymore.

[@RaySkihorsky]

I play it too. But Thrawns Revenge as New Republic. I am just overwhelming all the factions with my Carriers and Bomber and Fighter Power :D Also I don't want an Emipre at War 2 unless maybe EA makes it...I don't know. They apart from some greedy descision made a great game with Battlefront 2 and also Squadrons. The writers there understand the core of Star Wars not like the writers at disney or especially Ubisoft.

[@Hexenkind1]

No. This was just one tiny blip in the many, many problems this company has since at least 10 years.

[@mawkishdave]

Also with Frostpunk 2, Space Marine 2, and the new DLC for Rogue trader coming out that has to hurt this game because the other games are selling great and they are for a lot less in price.

[@siegel947]

Please continue this legacy. It is time to for these woke shills and they wokecolytes to be a distance memory yet terminated these woke grunts from publishing they agenda in game studios to be variant tarnish...

[@TheSmartCinema]

Gamers are tired of paying absurd amount of money for games. Here in Canada it's often 79,99$ +taxes (which are crazy here) so a game can easily cost 100$+ if you include the almost necessary season pass for those games. 100$ is not something most gamers can pull out of their budget at a whim. 40$CAD to 60$CAD with no season pass bs is a much more reasonable price for the majority of gamers. I swear the CEOs of those AAAA games don't understand the purchase power of their target audience.

[@mawkishdave]

@@TheSmartCinema Paying way to much for crappy games when you see smaller companies making better games for less.

[@Coconut-219]

Less in price, AND more in quality of end product.

[@giantWario]

Update: The stock is at 9 euros now.

[@DarTame]

Ubishet needs to get comfortable with the idea of gamers not buying their games

[@abovethecutgaming7436]

Having played a good out of hours….this game was just a shame. So unpolished, unimaginative and most importantly, a wasted opportunity. Like Eck its playable but man it’s dry

[@raynortownly7098]

What the hell does that even mean. Everyone are just throwing around abstract critiques. In 2024 apparently isn't a crime for Ubisoft to make Ubisoft games, Bethesda's to make Bethesda games, etc.

[@raynortownly7098]

Every game must be best game ever, to not sink a company. Should Aspire close down, cause they keep releasing low effort unpolished remasters. It's just cool to hate Ubisoft now, god bandwagons are so annoying.

[@abovethecutgaming7436]

@@raynortownly7098 No one said anything about needing to be the best but that doesn’t mean they should just release half baked products. Would you buy a half built car? I imagine not. I encourage you to play the game, see the cut scene flaws, the same repetitive missions and actions and tell me it’s fun. I am not saying YOU didn’t like it but just look at the numbers, clearly the vast majority of people are not happy with it

[@snappedsquire8479]

@@abovethecutgaming7436 Don't forget the bugs! Though they may be patched now, but I encountered more than a few bugs, such as randomly teleporting or jumping right in front of an enemy while on a stealth-only mission

[@captainfach]

​@@abovethecutgaming7436ive been playing forn30 hours or so and I'm having great fun. Albeit I have to say I haven't played an ubi open world hame in quite some time, so it's not as dry for me, but I can also see they've improved the exploration. I actually wanted to explore. And I liked how theynsidestapped the xp rpg mechanics. And honestly as a huge star wars nerd, it was just awesome to be able to just BE in these locations and move through them and explore them like no game before.

[@agoosecalledxaro6679]

The game is bland. Nothing political, it's just not worth the price you pay for it.

[@Guntaku_Gaijin]

I played the game through the ubisoft plus or whatever it's called and beat it. I was kinda bummed the relationship with the syndicates literally meant nothing to the story. I'm glad I didn't pay full price

[@raynortownly7098]

​@@Guntaku_GaijinIt not a RPG, it's a action sandbox. People expectations nowadays are ridiculous.

[@Guntaku_Gaijin]

@@raynortownly7098 lol.... They push the whole "whose side do you take". People are paying $70 to 130 for this for a game that has worse mechanics than ghost recon wildlands that came out in 2017. For increased cost on the consumer, of course expectation would be higher. "it's an action sandbox". Even then they dont do a good job. The world is bland. There's no real motivation to explore the sandbox. The gun play is sub-par. AI tracking is poor. The story was bland. (I wanna be a big time robber. Rob the vault. Oh no! I've been betrayed! My pet has been stolen! Rob the vault again!) there's no character development other than ND trying to overcome his restraining bolt. They just threw her mom back in the story out of the blue. Only history we have with her was 2 short cut scenes so there's no attachment for us to have with her like how Kay felt about her return.

[@ghosthdizzle2846]

@@raynortownly7098oh shut up

[@raynortownly7098]

@@Guntaku_Gaijin I'm not paying 70 for anything. Nothing is worth that. Everything is digital and we own nothing. Reputation has enough of a superficial effect and it's not that easy to go from terrible to great. Your motivational is to explore a open SW environment freely, even TOR didn't do that, because of level gating. If that doesn't do it for ya, then why buy it at all. There a quests, cosmetics and the world has slot of detail. Subpar, to dedicated shooter yepp. So is every fallout, most 3rd person action adventures. Though the story had a lot of heart and plenty of SW moments, maybe cause I have a cat. And I was surprised, Disney had the balls to make a lot people aholes. Again where were you expectations people. New York's best seller novel list.

[@spooky4320]

Bro this punching thing is sooo dumb , it actually triggers me , deserves a negative review just because of this

[@NIX-FLIX]

Concord reportedly had a toxic positivity work environment, where nobody was allowed to give criticism and I wonder outlaws had a similar thing where developers weren’t allowed to give ideas only the leads and the leads are only focused on the sales and not how good the game can be

[@Coconut-219]

how surprising.

[@cosmic_sloth]

This was the issue for XDefiant production as well. Lots of toxic managers stifling criticism and adding too much to the game that the developers couldn't keep up.

[@ayato089]

I would hate being Ubisoft right now - Outlaws sales are bad - xDefiant kinda dying - AC Shadows demolished by Sucker Punch Ghost of Yotei

[@SpottedHares]

I’m really tired of this “under preformed bs”. Did it looses money? Or did it make money but not a Bull Shit amount of money? Or did it make a Bullshit amount of money but you though you make a “are you fucking serious” amount of money?

[@raynortownly7098]

Probably didnt make profit. It got really bad world of mouth, before anybody even touched it. Doubt Ubi would be panic releasing on steam if it did. Lots of people probably did only Ubisoft Connect.

[@OmegaZyion]

If Ubisoft made their money back within a month, they would be saying it was a success because everything after that is profit.

[@captainfach]

​@OmegaZyion that's not really how it works though. The companies always have a goal or target amount of profit they expect a game to rake in. If it doesn't meet that profit goal, it'sunderperformed, even if it is still making them money,

[@Coconut-219]

No you don't get it. 'Underperformed' is actually them sugarcoating it - these projects have been actually losing billions for years now, because the budgets are still massive but nobody's buying it.

[@OmegaZyion]

@@captainfach Yet we live in a day and age where any bit of success is spun to astronomical heights using vague terminology and twisted metrics. If Ubisoft said it underperformed, then it must be so bad that they can't hide its failure from investors.

[@PineappleFury9999]

Ubisoft is about to scale back heavily and make more games like The Lost Crown. Shorter games that people will get through faster. In 2024 there are just too many long form games like Helldivers II and FFVII-R. Shorter games like Astro Bot and Resident Evil are doing well in terms of sales.

[@theonewhowrotethis5681]

I'm all for those. The Last Crown was great and got a decent amount of TLC (lol). You don't always need to go big to make a great game.

[@brianjl7477]

Yes, this! It's like all the live service games that are coming out and tanking. Those games require a significant time commitmnet. If you are already playing one (or two), you just don't have time to get into another one. These games that have SO much content and take so much "work" can be intimidating when I'm still working on another one. Not everything needs to be a big, big game!

[@wurstsalatplays523]

starwars outlaws is just 20 hours of content, it IS a short game.

[@brianjl7477]

@@wurstsalatplays523 Wow, really? Usually those open-world type games are so much longer. Maybe they just take ME forever.

[@wurstsalatplays523]

@@brianjl7477 apearently the world is kinda ded for a common open world game.

[@brandonbain224]

I've been watching your channel for years, and I was beginning to feel like you were moving away from the classic Eck style videos, which were the reason I started watching in the first place. While I do enjoy keeping up with the news, it's great to see a return to form lately man

[@LPhooligan]

people seem to have forgotten Skull and Bones that tanked day 1 release

[@TemplinInstitute]

no

[@horushyperion76]

LMFAO

[@cmasjoan7333]

It's this eloquent discourse that made me subscribe to the institute in the first place /s

[@newsaxonyproductions7871]

Awesome comment lol, Templin Institute. Cool to see KZbinrs like y'all interact with other Star Wars KZbinrs, as it reminds us that you are kind of just like us and are human

[@DieSuper-Influencer]

A smal girl one punching a stormtrooper through the helmet is hard to watch for me😢

[@talamioros]

and what's worse, this seems to be one of the highlights of the game? Because everyone (Ubisoft themselves included) seem to choose episodes of this Iron Fist as the representative footage?

[@rebelappliance771]

Gotta admit I’ve been struggling to find the motivation to play outlaws, and play games in general. I think part of the burnout simply has to do with all the drama surrounding the games industry right now.

[@theonewhowrotethis5681]

Retro gaming is always available. Tons of greats available if you wanna avoid modern drama.

[@jblitzen]

It’s been a great year to catch up on our backlogs, because very little coming out is anywhere near as good as stuff we bought a few years ago or older. A running theme across the entire entertainment industry, in fact. It’s all hopelessly broken.

[@captainfach]

Ignore it. That's what I did and I ended up really liking outlaws. It's immersive and it really let's you explore the star wars world in a way we've not gotten to since kotor, but more detailed and the exploration is fleshed out more. Not ubisoft towers or xp rpg systems. Actual alexploration and motivation to do so

[@Ben-ek1fz]

@@captainfachthis argument falls apart when you realised that KOTOR is a 20 year old game that was designed as a ‘pick your tale’ RPG whereas Outlaws is basically on rails reskin of assassins creed with 0 innovation. You gota stop giving ubisoft credit because the sw market for open world games is 0 obviously youre gonna like *any* sw game with any sense of exploration

[@Coconut-219]

@@captainfach You probably spent the last 10 telling people games "aren't for them" Time to reap, comrade.

[@MBHpower1]

The last time I was this early Darth Vader uploaded his "WE BLEW UP ALDERAAN" video

[@FlakFactory]

no making bad games did them in lol lets not act like Ubisoft been making good games

[@theonewhowrotethis5681]

Besides the Mario & Rabbids series and the recent Prince of Persia.

[@lagia5]

Rayman legends was their last decent game, but they did this to them selves over the past decade and a bit, doesnt help with the low point the SW franchise is currently in too

[@achaudhari101]

Mario and Rabbids says otherwise.

[@theonewhowrotethis5681]

Pretty much all the mainline Rayman stuff that they did was solid. The Mario & Rabbids games are also really solid. Thr Prince of Persia revival was also a really great Metroidvania. It's their 3D Adventure titles that are struggling at being solid titles, pretty much (AC still makes a bunch of money, but the older titles are better IMO). Their subscription services can go pound sand, however. I'm only purchasing stuff that I can actually own.

[@awesomehpt8938]

Outlaws didn’t kill Ubisoft. Assassins creed shadows will

[@koriharpoon3357]

Also them not wanting us to own our own games.

[@SarastistheSerpent]

Tbh I don’t think so, as pre-order sales for the game appear to be very strong. I personally think the game looks quite bland, and I thought AC Valhalla was a bloated disaster, but it was the best selling AC game of all time and was incredibly successful in spite of its mediocrity.

[@jonathanbates9928]

​@@SarastistheSerpent pre-orders are a void metric. Just look at cyberpunk. How many millions of pre-orders were refunded within days of launch. Halo suffered the same fate with infinite. Even starfield was handing out refunds for pre-orders because the game was half of the game the promised.

[@borris542]

Generally speaking assasins creed is ubisofts franchise that does OK its everything else that seems to flop

[@gabriellopesguimaraes3513]

@@SarastistheSerpent Brother their delay canceled all the pre-orders, that number is worthless now

[@SpadesNeil]

"Soft sales" is an interesting way to say "it fucking bombed"

[@Coconut-219]

Companies, if you go after 'modern audiences' then you'd better get used to 'modern sales figures'...

[@vegladex]

I had noticed there had been a period of quite a bit of news, and now a period of less news, and as someone who is more interested in not-news than news, I appreciate the attempt to keep balance. This news sounds pretty good for me too, having to get it on Uplay was a big turn-off, so knowing they're going to do a Steam release justifies my hesitation. I might just hesitate a bit longer and see if they let it go at a discount. I like singleplayer games and the stealth focus and interesting upgrade systems appeal to me, it's only its lukewarm reception that's making we wait. Definitely want to get it at some point but I am more than willing to be patient for my best opportunity.

[@generalveers9544]

I felt pretty good when I saw that the reason given for the Shadows delay was exactly what I thought it’d be when it was first rumored. They said they “learned from outlaws” and want to put more work into it. Knew they’d say that

[@DitchCricket11]

Just seeing the video clips of the main character punching stormtrooper armor and helmets and somehow knocking them out in two hits makes me not want to play. That alone makes no sense and shouldn't be possible. Dumb and glad I didnt get it.

[@jsht6628]

Congrats on 1 mil subscribers 🎉

[@GoingRampant92]

Ubisoft will find and make any excuse to place blame for their failures on anything/anyone except the actual culprits. The leadership.

[@jblitzen]

Ugly, boring, sometimes pandering and outright insulting. Every game they’ve made recently. People would forgive the formula for cool, awesome looking setpieces and characters and locations and choices. But there’s no choices, nothing looks good, nothing leaps out at us, we can’t be who or what we want, what anyone would want, we’re just some scruffy looking box checking HR hire doing exactly what we’re allowed to do, in a bland desert. Ugly, boring, sometimes pandering and insulting. What a waste of a great license. Good coverage Eck, thank you.

[@Hawkeye83627]

Obviously more power to everyone for what they enjoy but I genuinely could not finish the game. The story was fine, I watched some cutscene compilations after I canceled my Ubi+ subscription. But the gameplay legitimately made it impossible for me to continue. Felt more like a chore and a job than a videogame. If the KO animations weren't so unsatisfying, or I at least had the option to drag bodies away, then it'd be a lot less of a drag. Not having a leveling system or actual options when it comes to weapons that you can carry really neutered it for me also.

[@SlaterRecreational]

Outlaws captivates what Disney has been doing to Star Wars for the last decade.

[@enskje]

If that was the case, the game would've made Ubisoft a lot of money. Disney has made a lot of money with Star Wars, and been very successful all in all. Movie 7-9 made more than the Prequels (adjust for inflation), and made the same or more than Episode 6. Rogue one has better ranking the each of the Prequel Movies on most ranking sites. It's very fun to meme about Star Wars being horrible, but the modern movies have been very successful from an economic point of view, unlike certain recent Ubisoft games.

[@SlaterRecreational]

@@enskje Yes the movies did well but can you equivalent that to a good story or good writing or die hard fans eager to see where it all goes next? Rogue one was the best movie out of them all because it wasn’t based off the Disney sequels. You can say good critic scores and money equals success all you want but Star Wars was changed for the worse overall. Outlaws is a flop because of lazy story, game design and fans are smarter to trust Ubisoft.

[@enskje]

@@SlaterRecreational " but can you equivalent that to a good story or good writing or die hard fans eager to see where it all goes next? ". Yes certainly. This is all true for Episode 7, 8, Andor, The Bad Batch, Rebels, The Mandalorian, Visions and Ahsoka. Of course no one would want to see where Rogue One would go next, because no one expected something more to come from it (which, ironically it did). Maybe people were dissapointed with WHERE some of these things went next, but they certainly wanted to see where it went. But then again, Star Wars is used to letting fans down. It's still more popular and successful than it's not. With more projects we also see more failures. Disney only changed the quantity of Star Wars projects. We see more successses, and more dissapointments. The percentage of such successes and dissapointments have not really changed.

[@GunsAndAmmo3]

Got a Trojan ad before this video

[@cristainrodriguez5845]

I wouldn't play this game, even if it was for free we wanted 1313 not this

[@raulmacias647]

Yeah 1313 will have more action explore coruscant not that same planet tatooine

[@raynortownly7098]

Yeas, let's have another linear action game. Ughh.

[@mleadenham1]

We would have also accepted KOTOR 3 as well.

[@cristainrodriguez5845]

@@mleadenham1 yes we would of course 😁

[@raynortownly7098]

@@mleadenham1 Knock of the Kotor 3 already. It's been 20 years, the people that made it are gone. You think Outlaws is bad. K3 made today would be awful.

[@TheArklyte]

They did it to themselves when they attributed quarantine period rise in sales to the success of "new internal policy" and doubled down on it. And no, they're still alive. AC:Shadows going against Ghost of Yotai is what is going to kill them. They hope that another american special month and Valentine's day would save them. But they're banking too much on US alone at this point. But we'll see if several extra months would be enough to make it a good product. And if shareholders will wait for so long.

[@ben501st]

Ubisoft was really in tune with pop culture in the late 00s/ early 10s. Parkour became popular and they busted out Assassin's Creed. Silly mini games on the Wii were all the rage and they have us Rayman Raving Rabbids. Motion control was hot new tech and boom here come Just Dance for Wii and Xbox Kinect. Ubisoft wasn't afraid to make something for everyone as long as it was fun.

[@NuclearDude101]

I didn’t buy Outlaws myself for a few reasons - two of those being that what I heard about the gameplay put me off, and the setting/story. The whole scoundrel/underworld vibe does nothing for me, personally.

[@jonp799]

It's not really underworld scoundrel since you can't rob, stela or shoot anyone who isn't a storm trooper. Can't even shoot animals. But you can pet them.

[@rickdiesel2k]

I remember when companies would make boat loads of money by simply making a good game. now, lots of big studio games are lipstick on a pig with no soul at extortionary prices

[@captainfach]

Everything you said in this video is absolutely correct, but I do want to add one thing. Some of it is just players. I've seen so many people think that a 7 out of 10 is a terrible game and because this isn't one of the greatest games of all time one of the greatest games of the year that it's automatically trash it seems like these days everything has to be 10 out of 10 or 0 out of 10 there's no room in the middle for anything that's just kind of fun

[@PeterFendrich]

I think outlaws could be claimed to have killed Ubisoft in this way: it's almost a punching bag that Ubisoft hasn't actually made a new game in over a decade, they just keep regurgitating a paint by numbers version of once innovative and enjoyable IPs. I think a lot of people were looking at "Oh hey, Ubisoft got their hands on a new big thing, maybe we'll see them really step up to the plate with this new opportunity and give us some of that old magic that we know they're capable of." When that didn't happen (which isn't to say some people didn't find the game good or enjoyable, but it clearly wasn't a knockout home run for critics or fans), I think it really just pulled the cover back on how unimaginative and profit model driven the company has to become. This wasn't the bomb that blew up the company, it wasn't even the straw that broke the camel's back. It was more just that time you sat down at your desk in your cubicle and were hit with the realization that, this will never change. So I guess I'm saying, outlaws with simultaneously not the thing that killed it, and the moment of extreme existential dread?

[@ALKUN87]

It seems that Ubisoft no longer knows how to make successful games. It doesn't matter how good of a game they think they've made. If the consumers don't want it, it's not going to be bought.

[@jonp799]

They don't care about what consumers want. Look at their recent stock meeting. They only mention critic reviews.

[@ALKUN87]

@@jonp799 You're right. This is the reason why Ubisoft will fall and why it should.

[@TheRoyalFino]

People talk about Outlaws like it's a haphazard game. There are elements that could use some love but the production values and the atmosphere is excellent. It just needs some combat and stealth adjustments and the game is plenty great. Add more depth to the upgrades/syndicates in a sequel and it's a GOTY candidate. I highly encourage people to buy it at the price that that they deem fair. It will be on-sale or go down in price eventually. It's a fun game and worth playing.

[@DannyOboy]

People who actually play games knew this wasn’t new Ubisoft has a reputation that sticks and spreads for a reason games journalist don’t know or care which is why this is a “surprise”

[@slice1208]

Star Wars outlaws did not kill Ubisoft, but Assassin's creed will!!!

[@Bateluer]

Not sure what the budget was for Outlaws, but I read they gave it the largest marketing budget in their history. I think S&B was several hundred million over its 8yr dev cycle too. If anything, S&B was probably the fatal wound.

[@doomslayer9138]

Ubisoft and Disney is like a partnership between AM and Judge Holden

[@yahwhey2392]

“Whatever in creation exists without DEI exists without my consent” Judge Disney

[@doomslayer9138]

​@@yahwhey2392No Disney suits more with am and Ubisoft for judge holden

[@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356]

​@@yahwhey2392 good one lol

[@SarastistheSerpent]

@@yahwhey2392 there’s an insidious irony to the fact that people bash Disney for being “too DEI” when in actuality they’re a bit notorious for throwing minorities they hire under the bus, and censoring their products so they have fewer minority characters

[@barkasz6066]

I am besides myself. Outlaws is the first Star Wars game that I feel zero hype about and it never even occured to me to buy at launch. And I simply don't feel like I missed anything, I'll pick it up on a sale when I have a massive Star Wars itch that all the other games cannot scratch. Also November 20th is the release date of Stalker 2. I can tell you already that I and a lot of other people will not even be batting an eye at Outlaws for the rest of the year.

[@nicktechnubyte1184]

Poetic justice 🎉

[@MDPToaster]

Ubisoft has been on a death spiral since they killed The Crew

[@violentneon2999]

Outlaws looked so BAD, BLAND and BUGGY, that it finally got me to play Jedi: Fallen Order. I am having WAAYYY more fun then I ever would with a UbiSlop title.

[@bigj1905]

I’ve seen Zanny play this game, and it really seemed like the most enjoyment he got out of it was when he wasn’t doing any of the quests but just the random side activities. And I think that’s very telling for Ubisoft recently. Their games tend to have a lot of interesting and fun gimmicks and activities, but the story and core gameplay is increasingly lacking. And I think that is what is really hurting them.

[@LuketheDuke424]

I would have gotten the game day 1 if it released on steam. I know from a bunch of friends that it would have been the same for them.

[@Th3UnluckyGam3r]

"We'll investigate what's wrong with our sales" Zero attempts to try anything new, Siege is literally limping from the total lack of real care given to it, open world games were already getting old with Far Cry 4, fire whoever thought of making a pirate game without letting you actually be a pirate. Investigation done. I'd expect my consulting check in the mail but something tells me the check would bounce.

[@KrakenGameReviews]

I don't think Outlaws killed Ubisoft, I think the current model of AAA gaming is killing the industry in general. These multi-million dollar video games have to be megahits to have any hope of making good returns. A 6 year development cycle, $100s of millions in investment and releasing $80 (with micro transaction) middling products just doesn't resonate with gamers. Studios need to reign in their budgeting and scope. They need to stop paying $5 million to get a big Hollywood star to voice a main character. They need to stop creating games 16x the size, with infinite replayability and the worlds best graphics in a 50 hour package. Look at Hellblade 1 vs Hellblade 2. Scope ballooned, the project suffered and no one really felt Hellblade 2 was an overall better game. Companies need to start releasing tight 8 hour campaigns that cost $40-50 dollars, full of budding video game voice actors and maybe a few big names in the VA circle like Laura Bailey, Steve Blum, Jennifer Hale. Stop buying super bowl ads. Stop spending $50 million on a booth at PAX or Gamescom.

[@april3534]

The high investment also forces devs to stick to a particular, ‘market-tested’ model, i.e. the Ubisoft open world design. Outlaws feels like a copy of a copy.

[@JohnDoe-qv3rf]

No. Ubisuck deleted itself. And disney attempted to kill SW, but ideas are bulletproof Mr.Creedy.

[@padmanabhanvaidyanathan7182]

Oo a V for Vendetta reference, nice.

[@JohnDoe-qv3rf]

@padmanabhanvaidyanathan7182 good on you for catching that and thank you 😊👍

[@NIX-FLIX]

Maybe game companies should start making games that are actually interesting and more importantly, FUN

[@winstonstrange6732]

Love the classic videos and I'll watch whatever you make life time fan iv got sober,❤had kids and bought a house since I started watching your videos it's been a long time and I'm hear to stay

[@jameslikesit]

Outlaws and AC Shadows about to tag team KO Ubisoft

[@kingofmonsters14]

Outlaws critically wounded Ubisoft. Assassin's Creed Shadows will deliver the fatal blow

[@ChaosEvilution]

As others have said, Ubisoft killed Ubisoft. It was announced and i already didn't care because it was Ubisoft chum. They announced the release options and pricing and it just looked worse. I thought I'd probably get it on sale eventually as I exclusively play single player games and I'm a lifelong Star Wars fan... Then I watched someone who was positive on the game streaming it and I was shocked how shallow and frankly boring it looked. I'm not gonna waste my time. I was burned on Jedi Survivor which I pre-ordered the deluxe version of, struggling through about half of the game - between garbage performance, game breaking glitches and too much of a focus on high republic boredom. Fallen Order was one of my favourite ever Star Wars games and I love Cal and the Mantis crew but that series is done for me. This doesn't even have any established characters I want to follow so I'm not gonna struggle through at my own expense. I've just accepted that Disney are never going to make any of the games I'd want to see out of Star Wars 🤷 Saves me money I guess but it's sad, they killed off interest in the main saga, then Boba Fett, wasted likely the last appearances of Obi Wan & Qui Gon, squandered faith in Mando, I don't even know how I feel about the Ahsoka series (other than Shin, Baylan and the Anakin episode carrying it)... I know enough about the Acolyte to have only watched the Stranger fight and story summarys on YT and frankly I'm just glad I won't have to hear any more about it. Hopes are intact for Andor and Ahsoka's second seasons (dubious about the Mando movie) but maybe I'm just not gonna like anything new Lucasfilm put out? Saves me a LOT of money...

[@PsychotoasterProd]

I saw an article just today talking about the Yakuza/Like A Dragon series, and how their reuse of assets from previous games - character models, move sets, maps - allows a bunch of good things. a) It's overall cheaper and faster to work with assets you already have and don't need to build. b) It allows the devs to focus on creativity and crafting a great story with deep characters you care about c) They can put out games once a year. If FIFA can get away with using more or less the same assets and engines for years, then why not other games too? Star Wars is a little more diverse than Like A Dragon, were you don't have a Kamurocho, but there's no reason you couldn't build a portion of Mos Eisley, a section of Cloud City, a Star Destroyer bridge, detention block, and hanger, and so on - and not reuse those, plus the vehicles, time and time again. As time goes by, you add onto that map, like Infante Wealth added just Hawaii and the island resort. And with the just announced Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii, we're seeing that philosophy pay dividends. Or do you honestly think that a video game company would be willing to build a batshit insane game about a bloodthirsty Ex-Yakuza with amnesia taking to the high seas in a goddamned Gallion to fight other pirates completely from scratch? Star Wars needs to do this. Not the Pirate Yakuza part (Although a Yakuza-but-with-Hondo game? Yeah I would pay good money for that), but a constant churn of quality B+ titles instead of every 5 years mediocre AAAA titles.

[@morgansheppy1584]

We can only hope

[@theangryMD]

funny i was just looking at disney's stock performance. the company is up 321 percent since january 2009 when they acquired marvel but since january 2015 it's down 0.3 percent meaning it has not beaten inflation since 2014. a company in decline. wish they'd put all their eggs in one basket so we could drop a torpedo down its (sabotaged) exhaust port. hoping star wars will be good again before i die. i watched the special editions in theaters as a teenager around 1997; with only a few exceptions (rogue one, andor, the bad batch, most of the clone wars and rebels, parts of ahsoka and the mandalorian) it's been a steady decline from there. it's sad that things have gotten so bad that older material which wasn't initially well received now actually looks good in comparison (the prequels).

[@Monkeypuzzle]

I think all the somewhat mid aspects of Outlaws would have been excused if they had just sold it for $50 (maybe even $60) on Steam at release, with none of the play early or extra mission BS for the higher price point. Their greed is losing them money. It's simple economics. Price lower, sell more.

[@JefferyCheney]

Star Wars since Disney can be summed up as "good potential, wasted by upper management"

[@EzioAssassin9279]

I know it had its issues and bugs, but I absolutely loved this game. I thought the story was great, characters were great, and Nix is the cutest thing I’ve ever seen in my life. This felt like I was playing a Star Wars movie, which I’ve been desperate for since KOTOR. Hopefully after some serious post-launch support this game can come back in public opinion, because I would love to see more AAA single player Star Wars games in the future (and no more Dark Souls Star Wars like the Jedi series)

[@slimgnome2659]

After like a decade and a half of half-baked releases Ubisoft decides to "look into it"

[@kb420ps]

I don't know about the other games, but I'm not surprised that Outlaws didn't do well. Disney has brought the value of the Star Wars name down. The bad decisions that they have made about the content that they release has completely killed any interest in Star Wars as a whole. The last Star Wars tv show had the lowest numbers of any Star Wars show ever. You can't just slap the name Star Wars on anything and expect the public to show interest.

[@koriharpoon3357]

Ubisoft did this themselves. Them also angering the Japanese also doesn't help. Let's also remember how they said we need to get comfortable with not owning our games. We'll I'm more than fine with not owning their games. The only game I even have the slightest interest in from them is Mario and Rabbids Sparks of Hope, and even then it would have to be on a really good sale. It being half off isn't good enough. It has to be %75 off at the minimum before I buy it.

[@Zinj1000]

I haven't played an Ubisoft game since AC3

[@danielwyrembelski7129]

I'm so glad People could see this Game was going to be boring and Lackluster. You could honestly just tell from the trailers

[@Commander_Shepard.]

5:25 Yo...what is that camera angle for an interview? O_O

[@zombies1238]

This is Ubisoft's burning of Rome. Ultimately, they're going to see that their sloppy micro transactions, dollar store marketing, and generic titles are what's going to make them have to talk with chapter 5/11. I think we can all say that they don't warrant enough content in order to make their games worth buying anymore. I firmly believe that this "investigation" they conduct will just turn into the Simpson "it's the customers who are wrong" while trying to find some way to drop more Ubislop on us.

[@CelticAkumathefirst]

Another reason why the game got shadowed: Space Marine 2 came out close by a couple of weeks to it. Right now, Ubisoft suspiciously pushed the new AC release after the announcement of Ghosts of Yōtei. Edit: nvm, you covered it in the video. Heh, Ubisoft got bitten back after the "gamers should get used to not owning videogames" statement. By the way Eckhs, are you playing Space marine 2?

[@FramlingDammit]

Iunno, I never got into the setting of AC, and gave up on FC after the third time the story made it clear the whole theme was that I was an asshole for even playing it, so whatever Ubisoft stuff everyone else is tired of by now is still novel for me, now that I can play it in a setting I actually enjoy. (Plus, I'm picking up aurebesh way faster now than I ever could watching Disney+ series. No need to pause, I can just stand there staring at whatever poster or sign for as long as it takes me to work out what it says.)

[@jamesh2321]

This is probably more to do with Assassin's Creed: Shadows, which was blasted so hard in Japan that Ubisoft pulled out of a Tokyo Expo. They're getting slammed from all sides, as some "insiders" have also come out to expose crunch and a horrible work environment (what a shock) as well. So it's not JUST Outlaws, but that is a symptom of the bigger issue. I'm writing this as I watch the video so you might cover this but so far this is what I've seen is going on at Ubisoft... and it's not good, nor is it particularly shocking. But it is disappointing.

[@AttiraKell]

Ubisoft needs to do what every game studio needs to do. Focus on better, more compelling stories and gameplay. Leave modern "stuff" out of it until you know you have a good product. Once you have THAT foundation, you can do almost anything. But damn, i haven't played AC in 15 years because they were all so similar. Outlaws was rediculous.

[@ThatGuy89002]

Short answer: No. Slightly longer answer: No, it wasn't JUST outlaws, but it didn't help either

[@francescolilley4170]

Watching you stun a stormtrooper while clearly in visual range of that crewman and then watching him just totally ignore it was everything I needed to know about this game. If I want something like that, I’ll play fallout 4. At least i can chose what I do💀

[@danxan6438]

I can't remember the last Ubisoft game I bought. And it has been at least 15 years since I paid full price for one of their titles. I too miss the old LucasArts days, when the games were different from each other and other games and not cookie cutter duplicates with different paint.

[@theonewhowrotethis5681]

Waiting for a discount for this game. From what I've seen with the enemy AI and game mechanics/glitches, it's not worth full price to me. I will grab it eventually, but maybe when it's 50% off.

[@Karackal]

I really hope they give her some gloves or iron knuckles or SOMETHING in one of these updates. Seeing her knock helmeted troopers out with her bare hands is so silly (how did nobody notice this before launch?).

[@jamescampbell8482]

This isn't Ubisoft's fault but when Lucasarts had a Boba Fett game (1313) and Darth Maul game in active development prior to the Disney acquisition, they could've stuck with it and released those. Instead they develop a new game with new characters that we have no idea about. That's a gamble . Dex looks like a cute little character just like BD nine in fallen order. The point is they're spending a lot of money and using a lot of polish rather than going back to basics with Star Wars. Give your average fan a game like this where they can customize a character. Use the same story but give the fan the option to customize Skyrim style.

[@The-Mstr-Pook]

Make Red Dead Redemption 2 in the Star Wars universe that's all this game needed to be. and the engine an example is already there. whereas this is a boring travesty

[@IRMentat]

I knew there was early access drama. I never even fully realised that meant the game was out. It had zero impact on me. The boy thing that’s “killing” uni-crap is Ubisoft. There’s been zero reason to buy their early access titles in launch when the previous version will be 3/4 done, 20% the price and hopefully have less features removed than anything new they share out onto the offerings table.