Awesome Star Wars capital ships which don't get enough love

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There are many Star Wars ships a lot of people clearly don't appreciate enough. We'll talk five underrated Star Wars ships from Star Wars Legends in today's lore video!
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@darthball2723
@darthball2723 Жыл бұрын
The Dreadnought class heavy cruiser probably got to be my favourite just because of how old it is and still holds up so well in the modern day of star wars
@bradhedgehog12
@bradhedgehog12 Жыл бұрын
That I agree
@Zhicano
@Zhicano Жыл бұрын
Same here. Plus it looks like a real functional spaceship. It's basic design and ruggedness really sells it for me
@clonekiller6643
@clonekiller6643 Жыл бұрын
​@@Zhicano Fr. Its so simple and such a power house in its own right
@joby-wankenobinolan3428
@joby-wankenobinolan3428 Жыл бұрын
Same
@dietricklamade7417
@dietricklamade7417 Жыл бұрын
I love making fleets of them in empire at war aotr
@ryanholt7452
@ryanholt7452 Жыл бұрын
I always prefer the standard Assault Frigate over the Twin-pronged, but I really like how in Awakening of the Rebellion they split the Twin-pronged variant into a different ship: The Twin-Blade frigate
@jaywerner8415
@jaywerner8415 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, AOTR has alot of obscure ships in it and they all have a role to play.
@MrChickennugget360
@MrChickennugget360 Жыл бұрын
i would prefer that its just a different variant of the standard assault frigate. Basically, it costs slightly more to build but gives more firepower. standard type assault frigates would give you 15 turbolasers but an improved. 23 the extra fins are to improve firing arcs to make maximum use of the extra cannons.
@bcmmike
@bcmmike Жыл бұрын
I've always thought that, despite its weaknesses, the strike cruiser was very underrated.
@kostakatsoulis2922
@kostakatsoulis2922 Жыл бұрын
Its not about the size...
@christ4032
@christ4032 4 ай бұрын
It's probably because it looks like a dog poo
@Cody_L._Brock
@Cody_L._Brock Жыл бұрын
Honestly the Vindicator is a ship I don’t hear a lot of talk over. It was meant to replace the aging Dreadnaught with more weapons and a slightly greater carrying capacity than the Imperial refits of the Dreadnaught. Also what I love about it is how the hull is also modular. Being the hull the was used in the Interdictor cruiser. Honestly a carrier could have been made out of it too or just another dozen type of ships. And the fact it’s not a KDY design.
@inductivegrunt94
@inductivegrunt94 Жыл бұрын
All these ships are just amazing. I'm really glad modders bring these into games like Empire at War so we get the chance to see them in action and play around with them. The Assault Frigate MK1 is my favorite of these shown in the video.
@dreves8215
@dreves8215 Жыл бұрын
Strike Cruiser's are one of my favs! Nice to see someone talking about them. Also a shout out to the 'Star Wars Rebellion' game whose pictures you're gifting us!!
@OllamhDrab
@OllamhDrab Жыл бұрын
They seem cool but in so many early renders and drawings they tend to look way too much like actual turds. :)
@edisontrent5244
@edisontrent5244 Жыл бұрын
They should have appeared more frequently in tie fighter in my opinion.
@vic5015
@vic5015 Жыл бұрын
Too bad thru go completely against the Tarkin Doctrine.
@Weeping_Willoe
@Weeping_Willoe Жыл бұрын
At least aesthetics wise I almost imagine the chis star destroyer as looking like the answer to ‘what if Sheev decided he wanted a Nubian ISD’
@Warad
@Warad Жыл бұрын
The Strike Cruiser, Escort Carrier and Carrack are the three underrated Imp ships I would die for.
@mrbluea23
@mrbluea23 Жыл бұрын
I have always imagined Chiss star destroyers to look like smoothed out mon cala ships but with slight flares on the back so it resembles a triangle and a noticable rise twords the back and middle with a raised bridge but not as raised as an imperial star destroyer.
@Theology.101
@Theology.101 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, nothing is ever going to be more interesting to me than either the Bellator (my baby) or the Republic-Class star destroyer. The last one is just so funky
@kylefalk8616
@kylefalk8616 Жыл бұрын
You have good taste
@macwelch8599
@macwelch8599 Жыл бұрын
The Nebula Class Star Destroyer is my favorite ship
@Wally480
@Wally480 Жыл бұрын
Just looked it up. Totally agree! It looks so much cooler without the tower style bridge.
@macwelch8599
@macwelch8599 Жыл бұрын
@@Wally480 look up it’s sister ship, the Endurance Class Fleet Carrier
@joshuaaxford516
@joshuaaxford516 Жыл бұрын
I'm split between the Venator and Nebulae as my favourite it's so hard to choose between them.
@predator70nc46
@predator70nc46 Жыл бұрын
​@@joshuaaxford516 same here.. Pure asthetics
@Wally480
@Wally480 Жыл бұрын
@@macwelch8599 I checked it out and it looks pretty awesome. Tho I still think I like the Nebula class most.
@Alexzander1989
@Alexzander1989 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see the Strike-class get some attention. That ship really needs more love
@Gamer-gv7xn
@Gamer-gv7xn Жыл бұрын
Glad you talked about the assault frigate. It’s one of my personal favourite ships in Star Wars, the duel pronged version just looks so cool
@paulrasmussen8953
@paulrasmussen8953 Жыл бұрын
Prefer the og version
@jamesh2321
@jamesh2321 Жыл бұрын
Just seeing the ship profile pics from the old game 'Rebellion' unlocked a lot of pleasant childhood gaming memories...
@girthbrooks5078
@girthbrooks5078 Жыл бұрын
Mine is the harrower class. Love me some old republic
@SGSaga
@SGSaga Жыл бұрын
I love your channel so much and have been watching for years! Keep up this amazing work.
@cellianexurianity5021
@cellianexurianity5021 Жыл бұрын
Week 2 of asking eck to cover the Saboath mercenaries from the ps2 game: Jesi Starfighter, as they seem quite in-depth built, entire fleet complimemtsranging from starfighters, heavy starfighters, Trihexalon bombers, missile carriers, missile frigates grom the trafe federation, their own frigates shaped like horshoes, tugs, and even destroyer class capital ships
@lexington476
@lexington476 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever done an episode on the Carrick-class light cruiser? Goes along the same timeline in the thrawn trilogy as the strike class medium cruiser.
@ClnlBogey
@ClnlBogey Жыл бұрын
The rebels just have more variety due to the "janky fleet". It is easier to focus on their apparently successful ships seen in movies and games.
@BuckySeifert
@BuckySeifert Жыл бұрын
Love how many times you use graphics from Star Wars Rebellion. You ever consider doing a stream or Let's Play of that one?
@robertbarrows6687
@robertbarrows6687 Жыл бұрын
The MC80B is a ship that should have been canonized.
@CaptFalcone
@CaptFalcone Жыл бұрын
Nice to see a few ships from Rebellion get some love.
@jasonstadnyk2348
@jasonstadnyk2348 Жыл бұрын
I love the Assault Frigate! The AF2 not so much too Eck! I loved how you could attach an imperial shuttle to it
@paulrasmussen8953
@paulrasmussen8953 Жыл бұрын
Yeah what was petro thinking with that ship
@kjhuang
@kjhuang Жыл бұрын
I agree that the Strike Cruiser is ignored, and really that entire ship segment of medium cruiser (300-700 meters) gets ignored even though that's such an important size slot. That medium cruiser segment (which also includes Strike's follow-up Belarus Medium Cruiser and the Sacheen Light Escort) would probably be heavily represented in both the Galactic Empire's and the New Republic's system fleets, since they fit the role of system patrol and defense, where they wouldn't be on the front lines fighting wars but defending planets from more day-to-day threats like pirates and rogue militias.
@stengmeister8011
@stengmeister8011 Жыл бұрын
The amount of times I see SW Supremacy imagery used in yours and others videos, shows imo how truly amazing the game was back in the mid 90's.
@drxtale9446
@drxtale9446 Жыл бұрын
While my love for the Acclamator and Victory is unmatched. Something about the Dreadnought class heavy cruiser *clicks* to me. Maybe it’s history of being pre-CW All the way to New Republic, maybe it’s bulky hill and useful power as a meat shield for fall of the Republic, i just love this design as much as much as my love for the other two ships.
@jnwestray78
@jnwestray78 Жыл бұрын
Some old school Star Wars Rebellion Pics are awesome. That game still impacts to this day.
@jnwestray78
@jnwestray78 Жыл бұрын
@EckhartsLadder01 great, how does that work?
@Aettaro
@Aettaro Жыл бұрын
That moment when Eck gives some of my favorite childhood ships some love!
@panickedpan875
@panickedpan875 Жыл бұрын
An idea for a new video: ships that Star wars did dirty and bullied in general. An example of this could be the Neutron Star Bulk Cruiser which was introduced at the tail end of the Clone wars and immediatly became obsolete bcs lore reasons, i don't quite remember
@bruh8587
@bruh8587 Жыл бұрын
Man I absolutely love your videos
@doodooahtarkov9809
@doodooahtarkov9809 Жыл бұрын
Starting the weekend with home ressonance and poopfart ladder talking about a capital shit is always nice
@andrewgrasham4604
@andrewgrasham4604 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always We got to keep bumping your numbers up you deserve a million subs
@aleksaantonijevic8308
@aleksaantonijevic8308 Жыл бұрын
The thumbnails he makes for these video are funny as hell, keep up the great work.
@thepaladinauthoryoutube
@thepaladinauthoryoutube Жыл бұрын
The Rebel Assault Frigate/Strike Ship is such a quintessential symbol of who they are. Take something from the Republic, remove what didn't work, and use ingenuity and daring to make something new.
@Hailfire08
@Hailfire08 Жыл бұрын
hey eck you should compile a bigger music playlist :)
@jamesd5842
@jamesd5842 Жыл бұрын
I’d personally really like to see the Keldabe class Battleship get some love
@phildicks4721
@phildicks4721 Жыл бұрын
The Escort Frigate along with the Victory Star Destroyer are my favorites. In the WEG Star Wars RPG I even had a Privateer Captian who used one for the Rebel Alliance.
@andreykuzmin4317
@andreykuzmin4317 9 ай бұрын
Assault frigate was so successful, that it become the only Rebel/NR-exclusive design, that the Empire outright adopted. Not made their own spin on it (like TIE/in was an answer to T-65B), but outright just began to retrofit their own Dreadnoughts.
@lightspeedvictory
@lightspeedvictory Жыл бұрын
#askeck Do force sensitive beings have longer lives than those who aren’t? Lore ship Versus video request: Resurgent vs. Starhawk Tie Striker vs. New Republic V-Wing World Devastator vs. Vong Worldship Tie Silencer vs. X-83 Twintail Tie Silencer vs. Tie Defender (legends version) Keldabe vs. ISD II MC90 vs. Nebula class star destroyer Nebula class vs. Pellaeon class Majestic class vs. Bothan Assault Cruiser EAWX: FOTR’s Mandator II portrayal vs. Subjugator Praetor vs. Subjugator EAWX: TR’s Mediator portrayal vs. Resurgent Starhawk vs. Bulwark MK III
@Kvasiraz
@Kvasiraz Жыл бұрын
The Strike Cruiser is a phenomenal ship. They wont live long in a fleet battle but they are superb patrol/rear guard ships with great fields of fire and armor. Not to mention a decent hanger capacity. Though, perhaps a bit on the slow side. I had many a tough fight trying to take these ships down in the old flight sims.
@zarander
@zarander Жыл бұрын
The Essential Guide to Ships and Vehicles 3 had a neat entry on the Zarander-class Heavy Cruiser. It actually had no crew, just charisma. And you know, what not?
@Brazbit
@Brazbit Жыл бұрын
I love that graphics are still being used from the original Star Wars: Rebellion. Very underrated game.
@shas_o_cyxo
@shas_o_cyxo Жыл бұрын
May the Algorithmen with you
@matthewmohri9990
@matthewmohri9990 Жыл бұрын
Ah The Twinblade Frigate. I love using those artillery ships in combination another great artillery ship, The MC60. Put a few Dauntless Capital ships in front to tank then watch the Twinblade's and MC60's tear down the ships from a far.
@justinvanvolkenburg5298
@justinvanvolkenburg5298 Жыл бұрын
The Strike Cruisers had a huge Achilles Heel. Once there was damage to the central spine of the ship, it was easy to knock out and break up.
@derrickstorm6976
@derrickstorm6976 Жыл бұрын
Makes no sense how the Rebellion could essentially rebuild an entire Dreadnought, how would they have the manpower and unsupervised shipyards for doing that? Like sure it's "only" 700 meters long but all the hull modifications alone necessitate a shipyard of some sort
@boobah5643
@boobah5643 Жыл бұрын
The Rebellion built MC80 type cruisers, and you're balking at rebuilding the much smaller _Dreadnought?_ Either one is patently absurd as a rebuild, much less one that's supposedly effective.
@mattmadrid2960
@mattmadrid2960 Жыл бұрын
I've always felt the same. Stripping ships down and welding stuff into cargo bays makes sense. Dramatically retrofitting the entire structure of the ship with no money, manpower, or shipyards doesn't track. The Mon Cals could do it, of course, but they had their own ships to convert. I still love the ship, the lore just doesn't add up.
@FHT1883
@FHT1883 Жыл бұрын
@@mattmadrid2960 the Rebellion has no money? Nevermind all the wealthy politicans and donors funding it. MC was absolutely not the only Alliance shipyard. The "sci-fi authors have no concept of scale" trope really rubbed off on the fandom…
@jaywerner8415
@jaywerner8415 Жыл бұрын
Bribe money and friends in high places.
@Aothis
@Aothis Жыл бұрын
Die hard jedi cruiser fan here.
@richardsousa2625
@richardsousa2625 Жыл бұрын
I just learned the Dornean gunships name like last week after seeing it for years and it’s now one of my favorite ships
@gilmadreth680
@gilmadreth680 Жыл бұрын
The Rendiili Star Drives Dreadnaught-class heavy cruiser. I love how it mirrors the Battlestar Galactica 'apply forehead to problem until the problem goes away' design philosophy. Is it fast? No. Is it elegant? Absolutely not. Is it a precisely crafted brick with which to bash your enemies about the face? Yes.
@CrackShotCleric
@CrackShotCleric Жыл бұрын
4:28 Hold on Eck. According to the official guide to starships, the Skipray Blastboat is classified as a capitol ship. Let's not be hasty in our judgements.
@tonydeleavey6726
@tonydeleavey6726 Жыл бұрын
You should do a video with generation tech, on the pros and cons of either the rebels and empire, or their ships, either popular or less commonly known ships, people, or organizations in Star Wars that still had an impact on the Star Wars universe as a whole
@davidponseigo8811
@davidponseigo8811 7 ай бұрын
200th comment, I'm rewatching all your videos again, still great !
@ToTH-wk1fo
@ToTH-wk1fo Жыл бұрын
The Thrawn's Revenge mod for Empire at War has a really aesthetic take on Chiss/ Empire of the Hand ships. The Chaf is gorgeous, as is the Ascendancy for Chiss influenced Star Destroyers
@kaleonpi
@kaleonpi Жыл бұрын
Another ships that I love and also is really underrated is the star destroyer Gladiator class
@SephirothRyu
@SephirothRyu Жыл бұрын
You forgot a very underrated ship. The Blessed Noodle class armed transport. Which in addition to its extensive cargo capacity also has remarkable armor and shielding, as well as hyper-advanced starfighter control systems allowing its carried escort fighters to attack and defend in conjunction with the main vessel's own weaponry in ways simply not possible for other carriers of fighters, the most famous being of course the Ladder Formation that was deployed in defense of the planet Massaman to devastating effect.
@Leonidas1210vc
@Leonidas1210vc Жыл бұрын
The Subjugators will continue to get all my love, I just think it's -peak- neat
@chrisreilly1290
@chrisreilly1290 Жыл бұрын
These models look so good like I can't tell which are fan made and which are official
@lionhugs2418
@lionhugs2418 Жыл бұрын
I understand why you and others dislike the AAF Mk II, but it's honestly grown on me over the years. I loved using them en masse in the original EaW and FoC games given their power to shields ability. and given how hard it differs from the dreadnought heavy cruiser, I always headcanoned that it received nabooan, gungan, quarren, and/or mon calamari influences. it would explain how it looks more like a sea creature than a functional frigate; as well as the variety of roles it can play as a defender or aggressor. it's honestly a ship I'd love to see on screen. I know people online have called it the Battle Guppy or the Space Potato, but I love my lumpyboi~
@sonofliber
@sonofliber Жыл бұрын
I love the star wars rebellion ship picture. Also I can't believe you just shit talked the potato, I mean the assault frigate mk2. It's a great design
@Nenshokaze
@Nenshokaze Жыл бұрын
I still like the Foray/Forey and Hammerhead of the Old Republic era. But there was another, the Paladin, that looked cool. Especially the Ages of Star Wars: Jedi Civil War mod version.
@glenhayman8722
@glenhayman8722 Жыл бұрын
So much love for the classic game that is rebellion
@sebastianalvaradocolon5983
@sebastianalvaradocolon5983 Жыл бұрын
My personal favorite Capital ship is the Dauntless Class Heavy Cruiser (Or Marsheem Class in Canon) Its basically a Sullustan Version of an MC80, with them being luxury vessels before being converted to warships for the Rebellion
@deanangell3839
@deanangell3839 Жыл бұрын
While these ships are good (and underrated) the Providence Dreadnought will always be my favourite
@Asko83
@Asko83 Жыл бұрын
These are some of my favourite ships in Star Wars. I like how the Assault Frigate looks "open." Rather than covered in platings, it (much like the Escort Frigate) is open to space because it is not meant for atmospheric flight and therefore it doesn't matter that the outside of the ship is so gribbly and uneven. Also, the Strike cruiser makes sense from Empire POV and is silly otherwise. With the massive Empire, having modular ships that can be reconfigured for new duties when necessary is handy in some ways while for any smaller fleet, it would be preferable to just make dedicated ships for these duties separately.
@furonguy42
@furonguy42 Жыл бұрын
Although it’s far from my favourite, I do have a soft-spot for the two-pronged variant of the Assault Frigate. I also quite appreciate that the “Nebulon-C” class from the sequels appears to have taken inspiration from its design to a certain extent.
@Scianta
@Scianta Жыл бұрын
So the Bahatok is the next level up from the Muurian Assault Craft (basically a torpedo assault craft armed with two turbo laser or heavy laser cannon batteries used in XWing TIE Fighter)variant of the Muurian Freighter
@alphaone5406
@alphaone5406 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always had a thing for the Marauder class corvette
@kineuhansen8629
@kineuhansen8629 Жыл бұрын
man i would love to see the dreadnought cruiser on screen perhaps in thrawn fleet in ahsoka series
@moffjendob6796
@moffjendob6796 Жыл бұрын
Wait, wait, wait... there were LIFEPODS... from the LIBERTY? The ship that was there one second and dust the next? Yeah, outta my headcanon like a full quarter of the Death Star II drifting through space and landing on a moon.
@samuelhayden4710
@samuelhayden4710 Жыл бұрын
The Assault Frigate is one of my personal favourite ships. I don’t exactly like the Dreadnaught, but it would make sense that the Rebel Alliance, a small, resource-lacking faction, would modify old Imperial ships.
@Gravemindefiler
@Gravemindefiler Жыл бұрын
I'm curious about the Chiss/Imperial design hybrids, perhaps you could do a breakdown on this joint endeavors and its resulting ships?
@stiglapoint5672
@stiglapoint5672 Жыл бұрын
Surprisingly the Assault Ship became canon recently in the SW comics
@Oculas2003
@Oculas2003 Жыл бұрын
The Assault Frigate is one of my fav non SD ship types.
@TigerShady
@TigerShady Жыл бұрын
The Strike Cruiser feel like the Sherman tank of WW2.
@trickster20644
@trickster20644 Жыл бұрын
#askeck How do you think General Grievous would have turned out if the Jedi saw through the Huk's lies and sided with the Kaleesh?
@Fulcrumn9
@Fulcrumn9 Жыл бұрын
#AskEck why do ships in star wars always face upright the same way, is there an 'up' to space?
@jamesondonnell4054
@jamesondonnell4054 Жыл бұрын
You should do some more multiplayer for empire at war! That shit was fun to watch
@jaywerner8415
@jaywerner8415 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the Dreadnought and its various Refits are definitely something that could be expanded upon. I mean COME ON, its the most generic looking ship you can find and EVERYONE uses them (although I don't think anyone can build them anymore or would want to). Plus it looks cool.
@lazydesmond8240
@lazydesmond8240 Жыл бұрын
Id say my favorite star wars ship of all time gets absolutely no love: the Invincible class dreadnaught. It looks like the most functional star wars ship to ever exist, and it also looks like a ship you'd see out somewhere in the middle of no-space doing border patrol duty or something like that.
@wangbot47
@wangbot47 Жыл бұрын
My favorite Star Wars capital ship will always be Home One
@Shadx27
@Shadx27 Жыл бұрын
Wondering if he will mention Strike Cruiser, hey he did!
@andersonic
@andersonic Жыл бұрын
Lots of candy here for X-Wing players. But I never accepted that Dreadnaughts required a crew of 16,000. There aren't even 16,000 things to do in that much volume. My head canon is that 16,000 was their maximum passenger load, but the ships took so much attention to operate it was a common joke that 16,000 was minimum crew.
@sarahh8548
@sarahh8548 Жыл бұрын
Ask Eck: I was listening to the dark force rising book and at the 8 hour 24 min mark Mara jade states it took about 15 minutes to be cleared for takeoff, it seems odd that it would take that long.
@trebacca9
@trebacca9 Жыл бұрын
Love the Strike Cruiser. Makes me wonder, if they'd just made sure every Star Destroyer had two of them and four Lancers as escorts and backup, perhaps the Rebellion's skirmishing strategy would have been countered.
@recoursent6487
@recoursent6487 Жыл бұрын
you could´ve used material from thrawns revenge for the empire of the hands star destroyer, but nice video
@marty2129
@marty2129 Жыл бұрын
MC80B is the HMS Vanguard to MC90's HMS Lion... change my mind :D
@maximomartin2529
@maximomartin2529 Жыл бұрын
I give them enough addiction. 😉
@a.bettik8698
@a.bettik8698 Жыл бұрын
1) Why don't you like the Mark II fregate ? What's not to love ? 2) the 2d ship looks like a tardigrade
@darkmugetsu6572
@darkmugetsu6572 Жыл бұрын
Isn't the Ghost in between Freighter and a Corvette. The Ghost has quite the arsenal and is quite big for it's size that it fights with CR90 corvette's well .
@DoctorX17
@DoctorX17 7 ай бұрын
Some of the Assault Frigates look like fishies
@DrkLrdK
@DrkLrdK Жыл бұрын
My only gripe about the Assault Frigate is that they removed most of the Dreadnoughts armor but then added parts to the super structure for no apparent reason. As for the two-pronged one, it appears to be a whole separate class altogether.
@MrChickennugget360
@MrChickennugget360 Жыл бұрын
best explanation was the armor was already stripped off and the Rebels stole hulked Dreadnoughts from Bone Yards.
@Alyeska23
@Alyeska23 Жыл бұрын
For those of us who grew up playing Tie Fighter, the Strike Cruiser is very familiar. I also love the mention of the Mon Remonda. Tough enough to tank fire from the SSD Iron Fist and survive with only moderate damage. The Chiss Star Destroyer is probably most similar to the Nebula class, but even smoother.
@tkc1129
@tkc1129 Жыл бұрын
"Life pods from the Liberty?" How would anyone have had time to get to a life pod and away from the explosion? It had like a 3 second warning before getting blasted.
@RedPanda770
@RedPanda770 Жыл бұрын
Is the chiss star destroyer described kinda like the ascendancy star destroyer in Thrawns revenge. I know that was supposed to be a mix of imperial and chiss ideas
@CloneScavengerVulpin8389
@CloneScavengerVulpin8389 Жыл бұрын
If i were a commander in the rebel alliance i would pick an MC80B as my capital ship.
@davidponseigo8811
@davidponseigo8811 5 ай бұрын
I prefer the Dreadnaught just like it is.
@BronyHunter
@BronyHunter Жыл бұрын
How about mentioning the Enforcer cruiser? A fine addition to an imperial flotilla and hardly mentioned anywhere.
@FHT1883
@FHT1883 Жыл бұрын
A'baht is a boss. Loved him in BFC and NJO
@jasonjimerson7046
@jasonjimerson7046 Жыл бұрын
I would love it if someone actually made 3D models of Chiss Star Destroyers. I myself am curious of those ships.
@Wese28
@Wese28 Жыл бұрын
I’ll take a Hapan Battledragon any day
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