Why the New Republic had the GREATEST NAVY of all time | Star Wars Legends

We examine why the New Republic's Navy was the greatest of all time on today's Star Wars Legends lore video!
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[@eternal5930]

New Republic Legends: We have the strongest navy ever! New Republic Canon: We have a navy?

[@bryangammill200]

They HAD one. The whole fleet got one shoted into atoms while in orbit to the Capital planet. They kept their whole gov't and military muscle in one convenient spot in a universe where planetary scale super weapons exist.

[@darktrooper9813]

Bryan Gammill In their defense it’s not like they were expecting to get instagibbed by a superweapon after 30 years of peace.

[@deadshot5007]

@@bryangammill200They could have more fleets but were probably retired.

[@davidh.4944]

@Darktrooper98: Which only goes to show that their intelligence operations were sh+t, too.

[@erbalderon]

@@bryangammill200 am sorry but what idiot packs his fleet into one place...is it eaven fcking possible? XD

[@cloudftw113]

Ahh, brings back memories to remember a New Republic that wasn't dumber than a can of rotten beans.

[@bryangammill200]

"Let's keep the bulk of our battle fleet over the Republic capital and that way they'll both be safe. It's not like planetary scale super weapon still exist or that someone will build another one. So no need to worry about being one-shoted into oblivion.

[@speedyoscarin4450]

I mean the legends one was pretty dumb too. Hey full scale invasion by the vong what do we do with a bad ass navy? Nothing

[@cloudftw113]

@@speedyoscarin4450 At least they still HAD a navy. To be fair though, the New Republic wasn't perfect, but at least it didn't have leadership that would spend their time exclusively huffing paint.

[@alejandroelluxray5298]

Yes, the cannon version of the NR sucks

[@cloudftw113]

@@Sigilstone17 The fact that it got destroyed via it's own folly brought on by poor writing rather than evolving naturally proves my point. The NR got axed before it had a single bit of screentime the NR in the Old Canon had weight attached to its changes, highs, and lows.

[@MikMoen]

"The New Republic Navy was perhaps the best and most powerful force in their time. Then Episode 7 happened, and then they weren't."

[@nicholaswong6737]

Mik Moen ^this is everything.

[@williamt.sherman9841]

lazy writing. Writers wanted Empire vs Rebels so new secret supper weapon completely destroys entire republic in single event. We are living in a time of bad writers.

[@nicholaswong6737]

William T. Sherman Shoudlve been 2 Galactic powers slugging it out in a galactic war. The Fledgling NR with its new fleets and established government, vs the struggling but still powerful Imperial Remnant. Would’ve been great. Maybe have Luke lead the New Jedi Order instead of giving up. Which was his entire thing in ROTJ he never gave up on his father coming back to the light side, even when obiwan and yoda said it was impossible. Then in the new canon his nephew has one bad dream about the dark side and he decides to try and murder him, give up being a Jedi, and give up on his new order. Ya know seems like the same person to me.

[@williamt.sherman9841]

@@nicholaswong6737 personally I think they should have had both a weak new republic and weak Imperial remnant. most of the galaxy is independent and lawless with less of a clear cut good. the main issue is trying to tell a classic story within the Starwars galaxy.

[@Morpheus-pt3wq]

@@williamt.sherman9841 main issue with the "new" trilogy is copy-paste of old story, only made on somewhat bigger scale with lots of plotholes (maybe even plot blackholes).

[@bioboy1819]

Legends Canon: “.... consistently being refitted and upgraded during peace time...” Dis’Ne(w)’y Canon: Demilitarised and decommissioned even whilst knowing threats persisted against them.

[@cadbanebountyhunter5662]

The movie is not about star wars, and is not about the fans or lore.It is a real life parody, about politics, just like trump want to militiary strongness , in the movie they want military weakness, get it.is hard to believe but their agenda is real, and they starting with our shildhood heroes and movies.

[@williamhoang4077]

cadbane bountyhunter Exactly! I too strongly oppose rampant American militarism, offensive wars, and the Republican Party’s stance on foreign policy. But Star Wars is fictional and it’s not supposed to convey political messages because that takes away from what Star Wars is. Furthermore, it’s unrealistic to compare galactic conflicts with the foreign policy of a single nation on a planet that hosts a species which have yet to set foot another planet and have only set foot on its own moon with twelve astronauts several times!

[@thiccchungo1041]

It’s super fucking retarded, it’s like the US deciding to keep every single ship in Pearl Harbor, worst part is some fucking dumbasses actually think it’s a good idea to do something like that

[@warrennelson3737]

@@thiccchungo1041 The US did not keep every ship in Pearl though

[@thiccchungo1041]

@Warren Nelson it was a comparison to show how fucking stupid the idea of keeping your entire navy bottled up in one place is

[@neofulcrum5013]

The Nebula is just the best. Why the sequels denied us their return to a clone wars style conflict between the NR and First Order is beyond me.

[@tTaseric]

A fleet of Resurgents vs a fleet of Nebulas would be cool, They could have had a Nebula instead of the MC-85 in The Last Jedi, which would explain how it managed to hold it's own against so many ships.

[@mariobadia4553]

Save money on cgi

[@neofulcrum5013]

Mario Badia highly doubt it

[@KrypticElement]

THANK YOU! I've been thinking the same thing

[@smutnyzul676]

Hmmm... Subverting expectacions?

[@pacoramon9468]

New Republic canon has less military power than the gungans.

[@RepellentJeff]

Yeah because their fleet was vaporized before anyone got to actually see it.

[@sherk3286]

@Ruosong Gao imagine how crammed the space in that system would be, especially if the new republic had an Executor class equivalent 😂

[@justinfrazier9555]

@Ruosong Gao I want to know where Palpatine got all tens of thousands of star destroyers. That were all scaled up. Even the windows. Lmao. I guess the Star Forge still exists.

[@simineelamkav793]

Of course the gungans are stronger, they have Lord Binks on their side

[@LadyCorvia]

@@sherk3286 they actually had! Not quite as big, but they had a super star destroyer kind of thing! The star hawk! Buildt out of like 3 Imperial 2 star destroyers 3 of them were used in the battle of yakku 1 survived and got vaporized in the 7th movie

[@casbot71]

The New Republic also had a much better *HR DEPARTMENT* than the Empire.

[@seanwaddell2659]

So it’s treason then

[@aidaid3962]

Probably focused on a more desirable "Life Insurance" policy

[@duncanmcgee13]

Idk man Yularen was pretty cool

[@OllamhDrab]

Cause it wasn't just 'H?' :)

[@whitenoiserevived6575]

this should be made top comment ahahaha

[@dannybeane2069]

New Republic: had the best fighters in all of galactic history. Resistance: Had the SF-Bomber... Which made the Y-wing seem high tech in comparison.

[@hafizjoe583]

Degradation is a thing my friend next time they be fighting with stick and stone. Truly the bomber is ridiculous.

[@peterphilipson2589]

Wait those things were bombers? I thought they are the red barrels from Half-Life but in space.

[@Spartan086]

Something from decades before was far superior even when it got stripped down

[@aperson325]

Tbf the bombers could hold 20 times the bombs of a Y-Wing

[@brandon9666]

@@aperson325 It doesn't matter how many bombs you can carry if you get destroyed before you can use them, the bombers were fragile, slow and quite a bit larger than most fighters, basically easy targets.

[@IrishPhoenix7]

*Empire falls * New Republic: Here’s how you’re supposed to use your navy

[@keisufederationmapping2748]

old republic: i hve best navy sith empire: ima bout to end this man’s whole career republic: ima bout to end this mans whole career CIS: im about to end this mans whole career empire: imabout to end this mans whole career rebellion: imabout to end this mans whole career first order: im about to end this mans whole career resistence: im about to end this mans whole career new republic: amateurs

[@isaiasvalladares4210]

Disney: Hold my starkiller....actually gimme dat shiiit

[@MobiusLeader007]

Also New Republic: Here is how you properly use and support an ISD.

[@keisufederationmapping2748]

@@isaiasvalladares4210 yeah thats why they killed the new republic, because they were too well developed for the first order

[@nicholaswong6737]

Isaias Valladares T70 Xwings equaled a dead Starkiller. Imagine what the Legends NR could’ve done had Starkiller been discovered. The Canon NR intelligence commitee knew about the construction of Starkiller, but did jack shit cause of “politics” and “demilitarization.” The Legends NR would’ve sent the 5th fleet and ended Starkiller instantly. A single Kwing held more ordinance than Poe’s entire Xwing squadron combined.

[@stephenlutz6936]

Like I said before, I wish we got to see the New Republic Navy but they got demilitarized like crazy and the rest got blown up by Death Star 3.0. The only real ship we got to see was the Raddus and even that was retired

[@zeropianozeronetwork4107]

Stephen Lutz plus the Raddus had limited firepower compared to the REAL New Republic Navy

[@zeropianozeronetwork4107]

Gial Ackbar Fan Indeed, sure it had the carrier aspect but that got blown to pieces, fuel efficiency? still the same crude and inefficient fuel consumption. Firepower? laughable. Shields? ....might have to watch it again but it seems to me that there was no redundant shield generators

[@williamparcell9197]

The New Republic in the current "canon" were such idiots

[@zeropianozeronetwork4107]

William Parcell the canon new republic might as well be compared to the Imperials in terms of incompetence

[@dazooej5785]

Indeed the new trilogy new republic is filled with nothing but a bunch of idealists thinking that rest of the imperial remnant would just give up, didn't realize that you still needed to carry a big stick in a big galaxy already full of large ships

[@wilsthelimit]

This is what we should have in the sequel trilogy, a good, big fleet

[@martinjrgensen8234]

Wils The Limit Yeah the new star wars is more star skirmish at this point.

[@heavyarms55]

The Sequel Trilogy should have been an updated version of the Thrawn Trilogy.

[@robertagu5533]

@@heavyarms55 that or given the timeline we shouldve seen the Vong invasion at the current point in the franchise. When matched with the books... which also woulda been a better war, and better story

[@molinodesign]

they did, star killer base destroyed it with the republic.

[@heavyarms55]

@@robertagu5533 I would have liked to see the Vong War eventually, but I don't think it would have been good to jump right in.

[@VaiOr6]

The Resistance is so weak, tiny and cute compared to the strong, big and mighty Alliance! 😅

[@pooppoop6546]

The alliance of planets which lasted a month and came after the rebellion and before the new republic A stepping stone towards a new republic could do better than the resistance

[@mrridiculous4896]

Tbh, if the resistance existed during the Galactic civil war, they'd be considered a Rebel cell.

[@teleportedbreadfor3days]

An Alliance that *apparently* had only fought the Empire for *a year* before winning.

[@teleportedbreadfor3days]

@@mrridiculous4896 The Resistance is basically what Disney wanted the Rebellion to be, cause as far as they’re concerned, the well-equipped and organized Rebel Alliance defeated the Empire in a year. The Resistance seems more fitting as a movement that’s only been fighting for around that long, though it’s so shit they should’ve been easily stomped but still not be run by winy bitches who are so easy to call it dead

[@mrridiculous4896]

@@teleportedbreadfor3days Yeah, the Resistance, if used properly, can be deadly, if they had competent leaders, which they have (I.g Admiral Ackbar), but almost all of them have been destroyed,

[@thedarkknight727]

I God damn love the New Republic in Legends. 😍

[@KaziKami]

Same

[@concept5631]

Canon New Republic: Who are you? Legends New Republic: *I'm you but superior in every single way that matters.*

[@crayzkato6607]

Just every single thing, only not canon

[@Eye_Of_Odin978]

​@@crayzkato6607 "Canon" can be whatever I want it to be. We're talking about made-up space wizards and clone armies, idc what some multi-billion dollar company says is the "true" make-believe. It literally doesn't matter.

[@Jacobhull04]

The new republic had the best navy, but did the galactic republic have the best army? I think they did!

[@TomteMiley]

I know what you mean, but just to be a little sarcastic: Their best army was probably the one they had around like 40 BBY ;)

[@Jacobhull04]

@@TomteMiley the only army the republic had during 40 bby was local defense forces

[@Jacobhull04]

@@mitthrawdoritos30 the only reason the clones at umbara were getting their asses kicked Is because their general at that time was an idiot.

[@TomteMiley]

@@Jacobhull04 I know, that's why I wrote "but just to be a little sarcastic"

[@Jacobhull04]

@@TomteMiley why is it their best army?

[@furykillerBZ]

Really cool breakdown, especially going into how the fleet was organized

[@Deamon93IT]

If only we had the chance of seeing the New Republic Navy in canon, before being obliterated that is.

[@alanmike6883]

It was more balanced between the republic of old and the doctrines of the empire. A compromise of the two

[@user-rr6jj5mr6f]

Perfectly balanced, as all things should be

[@alanmike6883]

@@user-rr6jj5mr6f Indeed. Republic no capital ships. Empire barely no carriers.

[@Dynoids]

Because, the empire wasn't completely wrong. Thats why there were many who genuinely believed in it. It brought order to the galaxy, or so it seemed. But the sith were in control and their desire for power corrupts all. There's a bunch of arguments that can spawn from my comment. I made it in less than a minute, if you have a counter argument I probably agree to that too.

[@thestarwarsmusiccomposer3491]

@@Dynoids yeah. Its. Kinda like the conflicts between the pope and hre emperor. The ones who joined the republic was the one who was oppressed and other minorities and races that aren't mainly human While the one who joined the empire was rich people and rich planets who needed a better economic faction

[@roryokane5907]

“I think Star destroyers are pretty coo-“ “Imma let you finish, but the New Republic had the best fleet of all time!!!”

[@d.thieud.1056]

And the best part is they used upgraded SDs too

[@ChickenWilickers]

The part that irritated me was that he didn't discuss any of the other contenders in Legends. E.g. Galactic Federation of Free Alliances, Fel Empire, Sith Empire (that succeeded the Fel Empire), the Eternal Fleet, the Rakatan navy, etc. etc. The NR had a meh fleet in that context.

[@Memphismastermind]

Old meme, solid execution.

[@shauryapallav5674]

@@ChickenWilickers gffa was the new republic tho.

[@ChickenWilickers]

@@shauryapallav5674 I mean it wasn't? The NR was only one member of the alliance that would make up the GFFA. It also had a different government structure and balance of power. Also, the GFFA's navy would be about twice as large as the NR's navy and would also consist of different types of ships entirely (Hapans, Imperials, and the advent of the scythe-class ships come to mind). There's also the change in Navy philosophy as the NR went from whatever was available to the New Class Program to the Star Defender program. Meanwhile, the GFFA shifted from the expensive Star Defender program to a set of less expensive but heavily armed compact capital ships. It's sort of like creating a video about the greatest land-based militaries of all time and then declaring the Roman armies of the Marian-reforms the victor, without considering any of the other forms the roman armies would take.

[@tatarosgaming3176]

They attac- They protec- But Most Importantly Their navy is bac

[@Mooriarthy]

They arrac They protecc But most importantly Their turbolasers are taim & bacc

[@curtiswong7280]

Disney: NO

[@oogaboogabe3464]

Legends new republic fleet versus the Canon FO fleet. I.e. The republic isn't one-shot by Starkiller base

[@jonwoodhouse1444]

Eck already did a video on this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3LOdY2tpJZsors

[@zenobios6850]

Me: an EckhartsLadder video realeased 23 s ago?! Gotta see it

[@alejandroelluxray5298]

I agree with you, the New Republic was very smart in how they manage their fleet and the ships than they created are very strong and versatile, and some of them are some of my favorite ships like the MC90

[@apathymanthemundane4165]

The mc lines have always been reliably good designs, though purely shape-wise, I like the mc80b, myself.

[@alejandroelluxray5298]

@@apathymanthemundane4165mine is the MC80 Liberty

[@BigZ282]

So you could say it was the nature of the Empire, IE all of the politicking and backstabbing, as well as the overly politicized nature of Imperial Military High Command, that caused its otherwise massive and powerful fleet to be weaker and less effective than it should have been. Which, isn't all that outlandish or hard to believe if you look at history. Case in point, the Supreme Commander during the early stages of the Yuuzhan War, Sien Sovv, was a political appointee to the command instead of a military one. And while he would eventually prove himself capable of the job, he also presided over the loss of Courasunt. This was the problem the Empire had. It had a large and well equipped fleet, but far to many of its commanders were in command for political rather than military reasons. And that almost always ends badly.

[@dergotsch9284]

Not only that. The ISDs etc were mainly designed to envoke fear, so the repressed citizens of the galactic empire wouldnt rebell. But this was achieved at the expense of combat effectiveness. The imperial navy had huge flaws and wasnt as effective or dangerous as it looked like. Combined with partly incompetent personnel due to political fights within the empire and spreading corruption, the imperial navy was deeply flawed. This is one of the biggest reasons the rebel alliance was able to defeat this fascist dictatorship.

[@mr.m4297]

It took everyone in the galaxy including the Chiss to beat the Vong but yes their navy was nasty against everyone else.

[@rafaelnishizumi6330]

Legends New Republic vs Seperatist Navy, Quality vs Quantity

[@alejandroelluxray5298]

Quality wins in this case, also if a star destroyer with 10 turbolasers (no prices for guessing which) can destroy a ship that has more than 20 and have two giant cannons in front of it (Munificent frigate), I don't think it will have a chance against one that has 80 turbolasers (Nebula destroyer)

[@nicholaswong6737]

Alejandro Hernández an Imperial Class Star Destroyer has 60 Turbos of varying sizes depending on the class. Much more than 10.

[@alejandroelluxray5298]

@@nicholaswong6737 I said than, even without many anti Capital weapons, a Venator could wipe the floor with the mayority of the CIS capital ships individually (main exceptions are the Providence and Luckrehuk), so something than was specificaly made to counter something as well armed as an ISD (in this case being the Nebula SD) would be more than an unfair match for almost all the CIS capital ships

[@Chaotic_2025]

Wish we could have had a animated series about Yuuzhan vang war😢 that would have been amazing. Like the 2003 mini series

[@delbertholsworth3334]

Hapan Battledragons were insanely powerful, and Hapan resources led to the creation of a similarly powerful and streamlined fleet. Not as vast, but I would argue they were on the same level conceptually and strategically.

[@ghostranger5890]

The sequels would have been epic had they either had the Yuuzhan Vong Invasion, or if they made it a proper war between the New Republic and the First Order. Just seeing the Nebula and Endurance on screen would have been awesome. Seeing the Starhawk would also have been awesome.

[@alexthedemon2203]

4:43 this is just perfect it reminds me alot of the old republic fleet

[@flightlesslord2688]

Meanwhile in Canon: -

[@mcd3424]

Disney Canon = Not TRUE Canon

[@selvbilde253]

LordOfThe Flightless Imma shoot that canon out of a cannon into the pit of non-canon.

[@EchthelionII]

*shouts* There is nothing to see here so go on home, I repeat there is nothing of value here, go back to your homes!

[@mariobadia4553]

@@mcd3424 Legends was never officialy canon ssssssooooooooo..............

[@erbalderon]

@@mariobadia4553 it is to the fans...like the man said Disney canon is not canon

[@Rebotified]

And then the canon new republic did not learn their lessons of pass incursions and wars like the CIS and simply demilitarized.

[@Rebotified]

And its almost like they just scraped all the imperial ships and weapons from the galactic warspoils

[@azrael_the_deplorable9874]

#Askeck *405* attempt at Forerunners vs. Warhammer 40k. Idea origin: Thor's Hammer!!

[@BlackSteelKeyChain]

legends New Republic/Galactic Alliance =😇 Canon New Republic/Resistance =🤮

[@AgentPrimus]

This is a great source to expand my starwars knowledge on ships, factions, armies, etc. Thank god for ecks existance, what i think is one of THE MOST reliable sources of starwars knowledge.

[@casbot71]

You now have to do the New Republic *redesign of the ISD.* There have been videos on how to fix it, I have previously _posted essays_ in the comments sections of those videos. It would be interesting to see how the New Republic actually went about it.

[@martinjrgensen8234]

casbott They developed the Nebula Star Destroyer. It is basically the perfect capital ship.

[@casbot71]

@@martinjrgensen8234 I meant how did they retrofit the current stock of *_Imperial_* Star Destroyers they inherited.

[@nicholaswong6737]

casbott they really didn’t retrofit the ones they received that much. The tactics and logistics on HOW they used it changed. Unlike the empire, the NR used the ISD’s in their proper role, as a capital ship to ship combatant, not as a general purpose can solve anything ship. They supported it with escort frigates, a proper fighter Corp, etc

[@koraegi]

Took parts from here And put it over there Ezpz

[@nicholaswong6737]

Han Park it’s not that simple, but they did make slight modifications. But adding anything significant like 30 extra turbos or mon Cala shielding would require an extensive redesign of the entire superstructure and hypermatter reactor, because the standard ISD reactor would not be able to generate the amount of power needed for those modifications.

[@justinjeffries1554]

I've been looking at so many of your fleet videos to get a sense of scale (how many ships would be in the "First Fleet" for example) and have been re-watching the katana fleet, Fifth Fleet, Death Squadron, Solo Fleet, and How NOT to Rule a Galaxy (plus some of your battle breakdowns) and they've been super informative in visualizing my fleet for a Star Wars RP board i'm on :D This one just takes the cake. Good work as always fellow Justin.

[@perciusmandate]

Ah Admiral Ackbar. Truly a tactical genius! He can't be bested! Not even by a lone fighter piloted by an emo kid with mommy issues!

[@matthew____879]

which sci-fi faction had the worst civil leader, New republic - borsk feleya nuff said, imperium of man - maybe Goge Vandire there are a lot of problematic civil leaders, First order - kylo or snoke, both are pretty bad at being leaders it feels #askeck

[@MrRobot-0]

The high consul of terra in 40k burocratical nigthmare+ religious fanaticism+ ineficient tech.

[@shauryapallav5674]

I would say borsk

[@lieutenantnomad9198]

1. T-70 X-Wing VS E-Wing 2. Nebula Star Destroyer VS Pellaon class Star Destroyer

[@danielandrews1212]

Pellaon all day long. Tho in nebulas defense it would be decades if no centuries old because legacy never gave us a exact date of conception of the pellaon I think.

[@roguelead72]

@@danielandrews1212 the Legacy Comics are set 137 years ABY so the Nebulas wouldn't be centuries old.

[@jakegrant5698]

Idk about round 1, but the Nebula sucks. The Pellaeon wins

[@Nidhoggrr]

"Within the first hour" I'm lucky if KZbin notifies me at all when a new video goes up. Enjoyed the analysis!

[@sayahnmudd5146]

Ah, the New Republic Navy. This video brings a tear to my eyes.

[@davidtuttle7556]

Legends New Republic Navy also had tremendous senior officers like Ackbar, Bel Iblis and Antilles. Not to mention hot shot Farm Boy pilots like the Skywalker fella.

[@mitthrawdoritos30]

Ikr the nebula is so good, I created a fleet in TR EAW dedicated to stole those ship

[@axelrajr]

the Hapes Cluster had a rather impressive description.

[@trivipesnipe]

I think the Old Republic Fleet circa the Great Galactic War was a pretty efficient fighting force as well, on par with the NR.

[@10gamer64]

As long as you compare the times, napoleons force was great, but any modern military would wipe the floor with them, or the soviet army(If you have the roughly same sized force)

[@Subspacer15]

Are we ever going to get a part 2 (or equivalent) of the Battle of the Dreadnoughts? I'd love to see what those starfighters could do

[@flamerolburns]

I do believe he's planning on it, but things like that take lots of time and resources. I don't know for sure but I'd venture the one he did probably took the better part of a year. It's amazingly done, and it's definitely worth the wait though

[@superdrive986]

5:20 "New Republic starfighters were probably the greatest of all time" *Shows picture of b-wings*

[@alejandroelluxray5298]

They were still part of the New Republic Navy, and the B-wing was one of the best heavy bombers of all time, though I still like the Y-wing more

[@felps_4500]

Still better than the ones from the Last Jedi

[@parkermadsen6998]

What happened to the mon Calamari ship yards during the events of episode 7 and 8 are they still making ships for the resistance now or where they destroyed and were all the republic fleets in the hosnian prime system when it was destroyed or what cause they the movie made it seem like they are no more fleets to help or support the rebel alliance, and this video just goes on to show how powerful there military was. And I highly doubt there entire fleet of ships was in the hosnian prime systems. So do you think we might see a new/ hidden fleet that was part of the republic or just the millennium falcon cause that’s the last of the resistance it would be great if you could respond😁😁

[@TheotherTempestfox]

Shame we didn't get to see any of this on screen in the sequel trilogy.

[@nevasoba5953]

I much prefer your work bc u use the material that i am most familiar with and appreciate more

[@TheWingland]

Vs matchup Squad battle between Spartan 4s(Halo) vs Dark Trooper Mk3 (Star Wars)

[@cookiee818]

TheWingland what weapons would the Spartans have access to, because missile launchers vs a couple guns doesn’t sound right

[@hydragony5223]

@@cookiee818 but Star Wars has much superior weapons to Halo, although missile launchers is a no. How could the Spartans possibly keep up with the Mk3's blasters?

[@carlosgarcia-lu6re]

@@hydragony5223 superior guns ? You are kidding rigth?

[@hydragony5223]

@@carlosgarcia-lu6re I dunno, the blasters seem to be much more effective than ballistics

[@carlosgarcia-lu6re]

@@hydragony5223 well they are effective against The armor of star wars but against halo armors and shields they are toys, by The lore star wars weapons make 1/5 of what a bullet can do (from halo) and armors are also a lot more advanced than what The GAR, Empire and NR have (i believe that The old republic would be on par with unsc post-war). Point is halo is one of The most OP universes, And well The most OP thing of halo is The spartans, they are supersoldiers capable of killing millions in hours, evade bullets going at almost 50 times The speed of sound, ( they are not that fast but theire reflexes allows them to react in milliseconds) thats without spartan time, I mean i love star wars but halo is toó OP

[@jonathandavenport2500]

Great video as always. I always enjoy watching your videos.

[@TheWingland]

Vs matchup Brute or Brute chieftain from Halo vs A Predator from the Predator franchise. With 2 rounds First round unarmed and unarmored. Second round fully armed and armored

[@gabrielm.942]

TheWingland brute loses, but a chieftain my stand a chance. Imma put money on the predator though. Although the brutes ability to smell and track prey, on top of raw physical strength and insurance would be an incredible asset. I just believe the weapondry used by the Predator along with their skill set would of put some of the brutes advantages to the point where the predator would win the majority of the time.

[@johnholden2973]

I loved the video “ Battle of the dreadnoughts” and I was wondering if you were going to be making a short film series out of this or another completely different short film? P.s. who would you be in the Star Wars universe I be a grey Jedi temple guard

[@troo_6656]

It was the greatest as far as we know. We know nearly nothing about the Chiss or Empire of the Hand navy. This mean that we can't determine which navy was the greatest. In my opinion it could very well be the Chiss Asendancy navy. The main reason is that Chiss survived in the Unknown regions on their own for at least a few milenia.

[@cyrusmorris5525]

Eck your awsome and thanks for explaining things so well.

[@hendrik7354]

I dunno, I never actually read the legends books or comics, I just saw Disneys terrible movies and started watching your channel and now Legends actually makes the biggest part of my headcanon 😅👍

[@MWH12085]

We got pirates, smugglers and a potential resurgence of The Empire New Republic Legends: better consolidate and modernize our Navy New Republic Cannon: nah, it'll be fine.....

[@KaziKami]

They did fight imperial remnant and thrawn (which thrawn shit all over them of course and they only won coz of lucky + plot armor.)

[@klucas4gaming767]

I love learning how the new republic works in legends and canon. It's interesting!

[@EchthelionII]

Legitimate question, what does the New Republic do in canon, I forgot?

[@nicholaswong6737]

Isaiah Albers mmm get their capital blown up because they ignore the obvious threat that their military intelligence gave them? Other than that demilitarize to the point that they only have one fleet :)

[@johnwarford9782]

I know it's not technically a new republic ship in legends but What would have been real cool to see would be the Hapes consortium fleet particularly the Hapen battle dragon, just before legends ended after they gained the New Republics turbo laser technology. Once those ships were upgraded they would have laid out rapid-fire hellstorm salvos of turbo laser fire that woulda made new republic ships look as if they were shooting in slow motion.

[@phateeals]

So sad that now most of that navy turned into stardust according to "that" movie, dont want to mention the name.

[@twojacksandanace3847]

Even now i have refused to watch it, even for free on Netflix, and i never will.

[@mr.worldwide1934]

IMO the two best navies are the New Republic and the CIS. The New Republic for all the reasons Eck just gave, but the CIS is special, they have almost no organic crew members, large fighter complements and incredible ship diversity. Anyone else agree? 😁

[@richardgaldos6901]

A valid point but they also hard poor leadership. The CIS was defeated my a Republic Navy in 3 years, when before those 3 years the Republic did not even have a navy. Ya the Jedi helped but a sizeable chunk of the navy was lead by non-Jedi commanders. The Republic Navy did better then their ground forces did.

[@richardgaldos6901]

@Amber Hoke Sheev wasnt directing that tactics of the forces used in a battle. It was deciding the overall strategy of the war. When an equal number of CIS ships encountered an equal number of Republic ships, Sheev did not step in and purposely give the CIS bad tactics. He didnt do anything once the battle started. All his manipulations occurred long before the battle even started. So no your point isnt really valid. Read any Clone Wars novel/comic or watch the show and watch how the commanders act to each other and you will see what I mean. Sheev isnt showing up in the middle of the battle to tell Admiral Trench or Grevious how to move his men around. The CIS military commanders were simply less capable then the Republic forces. The CIS only won their battles if they had like an 8 to 1 odds and the Republic was completely unprepared... as in only if Sheev made it so they had an overwhelming advantage.

[@Halfgnomen]

I'd love to see a match up between the fleet used by the Ancients (Stargate Atlantis) and the new republic fleet.

[@ZackarySchejbalCODBO2RGM2]

Legends Admiral Ackbar: "The New Republic Navy hasn't seen a single defeat since the Battle of Endor!" Legends Grand Admiral Thrawn: *"Allow me to introduce myself."*

[@nobleman9393]

TX-130(Star Wars) vs Scorpion(Halo)

[@Jedi_Spartan]

#AskEck How hard is it to clone a human force user? As shown by Force Unleashed 2, all but two of the Starkiller clones begin to mentally break down but, after reading the game's comic, I thought it was down to how rapidly Vader was cloning them as a similar thing with the clones of Boba Fett.

[@hydragony5223]

CSO Class Super Carrier (Halo) versus Viscount class Dreadnought (Star Wars)

[@Reyma777]

IOPSlayer Slayz HOW is that even fair? The CSO is 29km while the Venator is less than 1.2km in length.

[@hydragony5223]

@@Reyma777 wait ... Shoot sorry got mixed imma fix that

[@Reyma777]

IOPSlayer Slayz No problem, some of Covenant ship names are confusing, plus some of their carriers and cruisers look very similar to each other. A CSO heavy energy projector would probably one shot a Venator lol.

[@Reyma777]

IOPSlayer Slayz I don’t think a CSO vs a 1.6 km Imperial II Star Destroyer is fair either.

[@hydragony5223]

@@Reyma777 how about the long night of solace at only 1/4 fighting capacity?

[@CloneScavengerVulpin8389]

A magnificent fleet.

[@barrybend7189]

VF-1 Valkyrie variable fighter squadron( SDF Macross) vs Viking mech squadron( Starcraft).

[@elderpooter]

Great content thank you

[@commandertaco1762]

Eckharts ladder 2 years ago: CIS has the best navy out of all factions Eckharts ladder 6 months ago: New republic has the best navy

[@alejandroelluxray5298]

That was compared to the Rebel Alliance, not its later evolution into the New Republic

[@ThatDragonGuy]

*Imperial Navy from Warhammer 40k has entered the chat*

[@godzilla5006]

Vs machup CSO Class Super carrior vs Godzilla Earth

[@hydragony5223]

BET😂

[@hydragony5223]

Actually, that would be cool...

[@twojacksandanace3847]

It's CSO class super carrier, CCS class is a battle cruiser.

[@JohnPC00]

They also have many mary sue Mon Cal ships left over.

[@ryanfogarty9965]

Do a video comparing and contrasting the New Republic military with the GAR

[@Cynane27]

What about the Eternal Fleet from SWTOR? That brought the galaxy to heel.

[@KitchenSinkSoup]

I wish they'd used the New Class ships more in Legends. They kept on going back to the movie ships which is understandable but I would've liked the new ships created by authors and artists to slowly take prominence in New Republic fleets.

[@dareka9425]

The New Republic Navy sounds awesome. It showed how the different races united to fight a common enemy and post war they used their new gained strength responsibly to protect one another. Not only that they didn't drop their guard during peace time and kept on improving themselves. Too bad we don't get see them in action movie-wise.

[@loganwhitney8471]

I would love to see a video (CGI or Animated) of the New Republic fleet, like the Fifth Fleet in action just to witness how powerful they are. Does anyone agree with me?

[@georgelabe-assimo4365]

Logan Whitney EckhartsLadder and ECHenry should do this as part of their next project!

[@loganwhitney8471]

George Labe-Assimo I agree and I've seen some of ECHenry's work like the First Order's TIE Bomber and The Resistance's Y-Wing and B-Wing designs and HOLY MOTHER THAT IS STAR WARS they are awesome looking, check them out if you haven't seen them yet

[@Neutral_man]

Yes

[@Rebel-Unit]

I hope they have a capital ship battle scene with the New Republic Nebula class vs Imperial class ships! Filoni, can we see this happen?

[@LoneWolf20213]

it was an expensive Navy though I honestly liked the Venator because it was a flexible and cheap star destroyer, namely on its role as a carrier and capital ship the Allegiance was a slightly better ISD with better weapon placement and point defense laser's alongside the Victory would be well supplemented the munificent and Quasars are good ship's to have for support vesicles Lukrehulk's and Providence's would be great planetary defense ship's

[@AnakinSkywakka]

A combined fleet of Providences and Venators, boy that'd be glorious.

[@LoneWolf20213]

@@AnakinSkywakka also include some Munificent's and Acclimator's for a fast production and disposable fleet ship and Lukrehulk's for planetary defense and you got a winner but the Quasar, Charger C70, Cr90, and Republic medical Frigate and Carrac class are more meant to harass opponent's in small number's

[@nicholaswong6737]

leon fierce at that point the Venator would be so outclassed by capital ships it’s size it wouldn’t be worth it to use as an all round general purpose ship. As a specialized fleet carrier maybe, but the Secutor and Endurance classes already filled that role and did it better.

[@LoneWolf20213]

@@nicholaswong6737 I honestly don't like the Endurance and Secutor class the venator was an ingenious carrier in my opinion, and all the carrier's after were only playing for second place also, it can't be that hard to modify it with modern star war's technology, replacing and rearranging some weapon's here and there answer me this, if the Venator were brought back and modified to modern-day star wars technology with the same shield's as the Nebula and the same weapon's and weapon placement's, would it not, and be honest, be one of the best capital ship/carriers in your fleet, and if not, please explain why, I like the Venator because it was designed with rationally minded people that knew what they were doing and is in my heart, one of the best star wars carrier's in all of star wars

[@nicholaswong6737]

leon fierce here’s the problem: Power generation. A Venator can’t be modified to the standard of 30 ABY tech because it lacks the reactor necessary to sustain more turbolasers. In order to modify the Venator up to current standards, you’d have to redesign the entire superstructure of the ship. At that point it isn’t even a Venator anymore. In terms of shielding it’s also a problem. Power generation for the advanced mon Cala shields, let alone the triple redundant ones require vast amount of energy the Venator simply couldn’t produce with its outdated hypermatter reactor. It also had an exposed Bridge, and a limited backwards firing arc for its main turbolasers. I love the Venator to death, but it is outdated compared to the secutor and Endurance, which were the next evolution of dedicated carrier. Even the FO in canon recognized the value of the Venator, but did not employ it. Instead they built an entirely different ship taking the best aspects of it while getting rid of its weaknesses via the superstructure redesign. What they got was the resurgent, a battleship as well as a carrier.

[@mattdarragh1811]

Eck, this is the 7th video you made about why the new republic navy is great.

[@thorshammer7883]

#AskEck *Attempt 546* Can you do the Forerunners vs Warhammer 40k factions and time eras of the galaxy faction versus battles please?

[@sidiouswargaming3971]

That is not even a challenge, warhammer 40K will destroy anything the Forerunners got

[@thorshammer7883]

@@sidiouswargaming3971 Proof? Context matters.

[@marcelxd1633]

Forerunners

[@zottv1500]

Enjoyed so much makes me remember how amazing the sequel trilogy could of been

[@aster4jaden]

The Legends New Republic was fantastic compared to it's Canon trash version.

[@MaddMattP90]

My issue with the Canon New Republic Fleet, isn't that it was a defense fleet for the capitol, it was that the politicians thought it was a smart move to demilitarize and cut their fleet down to a third of it size, when they knew for a fact that the First Order, a sect of the Galactic Empire, still had a presence in the galaxy. They were essentially in a cold war, without the massive arms race. But alas, the fear of repeating history, with 1 person controlling everything and everyone, was the driving force. So Eckhart I would have loved to see how the NR Starhawk Class Battleship would have fared against the FO Resurgent Class SD on the big screen. Oh, to jab at the Empire, at least the New Republic lasted longer than 2 decades. Albeit, 3 decades, still lasted longer.

[@pollall2793]

I’d frankly argue the CIS had the best navy, their ships are all designed with modularity and tactical use in mind, not to mention them being manned by droids makes them phenomenal in groups/fleets, while the New Republic had thousands of races within their ships, they all have different weaknesses and strengths, droids don’t have this weakness. Along with the fact that the New Republic did not use their fleet, and technology, to their full power due to political and other restraints, while the CIS always used their fleet to the best they possibility could, they where fighting a force with outmatched them perhaps by a full order of magnitude, they had little choice, while the New Republic never pumped their ships out, excluding in wartime. I may be wrong in some of my statements, but it’s just a though, and opinion I have.

[@nathanadams6168]

Love the space battle cut scenes you use, where are the non movie ones from??

[@felps_4500]

Battle of the Dreadnaughts

[@zackzerstein]

and all of this was lost thanks to Disney

[@burnedbread4691]

All of this is just an elaborate advertisement for Thrawns Revenge. It is working.

[@Rensune]

"Yo Disney, I'mma let you finish, but Legends was the Greatest Star Wars of All time"

[@jh-ij4by]

great video

[@dimenzed]

Greatest Navy of all time? Grand Admiral Thrawn begs to differ: he won countless victories over the new Republic and nearly destroyed it! At Bilbringi, until he was killed by Rukh, Thrawn was actually winning the battle! And let's not forget the TIE Defender - possibly the best starfighter of all time!

[@erikjan15585]

If thrawn wasn't killed, the Empire could have won. But thrawn is no navy, he's Just part of it. And the TIE Defender is good, but you neef carriers to bring Them to another system

[@dimenzed]

@@erikjan15585 except you miss the fact that TIE Defenders have hyperdrives so they don't need capital ships to carry them. TIE Ds can operate independently.

[@erikjan15585]

@@dimenzed I forgot that... But still, you don't have capital ships

[@dimenzed]

@@erikjan15585 what do you mean?

[@erikjan15585]

@@dimenzed Star destroyers, dreadnoughts, etc.

[@Roamingfirebat]

The space battle in the background looks awesome. Which movie is that from I can’t keep track anymore lol

[@felps_4500]

Battle of the Dreadnaughts

[@connort.373]

New Republic: Best navy of all time TIE Defender: Exists New Republic: damn.

[@ruthlessrubberducky5729]

So it was decentralized and task oriented. That left one major fleet to travel without fear of leaving one sector unguarded. The lack of oppression also aided in the willingness of planets to contribute innovatively. This left many militia like forces to help. This is freedom, people. It works.

[@vitorkennedy1862]

Legends: True star wars.

[@DarthWall275]

To be fair, the only way a military this powerful would work in a movie is if the New Republic went full circle and became an authoritarian dictatorship, essentially the new Empire, as has been the fate of nearly every IRL Rebellion who refuse to rescind their power.... but Disney would never take the risk of "making the rebels evil" because "certain" fans would have bitched endlessly about it.

[@JarleTjelland]

With all this buildup and BADASS navy with super cool designs why the hell did they just blow it all up in SW Vll?????