ALL Star Destroyer differences in Empire at War

[@EcksToo]

This was a big undertaking. Lots of footage, seeing how each mod works & making deep comparisons. But remember *this is NOT a competition!* Each mod has brilliant upsides, and this isn't a tier list. So be respectful on all 4 mods we compared. Continue the discussion on our Discord as well, invite link below! 👉 *EcksToo Discord |* bit.ly/eckstoodiscord

[@Ectoniz]

I asked the mod team on Thrawns revenge alittle while ago the reason why they didn’t make turbolasers move is to help save game frames and have the game run better on pcs cuz the having very turbo laser move can take a lot of of moving part witch can bog your game down

[@leobezard5998]

I love the models from the AOTR and EAWr since they seem to cinematically pop out, they are going for a more complex sort of gameplay and the ships match that, the EAWx goes for an almost Marvel cartoon vibe where the amount of ships and amount of stuff is more important than the cinematics whilst Yoden is a more classic, almost early cartoon vibe whose gameplay goal is just throw everything, the kitchen sink, the neighbor's house, and the local town's buildings at your opponent while you're at it.

[@StarWarsExpert_]

EWAr and EWAx?

[@tonygarrett2223]

@@StarWarsExpert_ eawr is remake and I think x is thrawns revenge cause that would be the only one left named

[@StarWarsExpert_]

@@tonygarrett2223x in eawx stands for expanded. you are correct

[@Jenn-lq9yu]

Remake's personally far and away my favourite. I just love how detailed it is, and with the lighting engine and moving turrets, I can just turn on cinematic camera and feel like I'm watching a Star Wars movie. xD

[@Cooli167]

For real though. It can look exactly as some of the modern films. If you have the right map, it looks just like the rogue one movie, the only thing jank about it are the fighters.

[@VortexLIFEHAXX]

the sound affects with the clone wars sub mod is so sexy

[@TheHawkeye0725]

This game needs a sequel sooooo badly

[@wolfeye2717]

Game needs a fucking pathinder update mostly otherwise what would thry even add?

[@aussiegoat268]

update graphics, add new era ships, upgrade there modding tools so we can get way better mods etc@@wolfeye2717

[@Neognostic-pk5wu]

A sequel with the combo of Star Wars Supremecy strategic depth and EoW combat depth? Yes please

[@starzykillstar7652]

Ground combat honestly I wanna see having gameplay similar to company of heroes + (og) dawn of war, mainly the dynamic cover system and squad/vehicle upgrades

[@angeloluna529]

Disney: I got you disney: how about a star wars animal crossing game?

[@grey2969]

For such a massive channel, suprised the Empire at War content doesn't get as many views as everything else. THE most underrated star wars game of all time. 16 years, and still amazing.

[@ProdAlarick]

I never played Remake but that Victory 2 Missile launch is one of the most beatiful thing I've seen in EAW

[@Bruh-qb8ir]

Its Victory I, Victory II doesn't have Missile

[@benjackson8731]

i think the reason for the visible tractor beams may be for clarity/fairness. If your ship wasn't going anywhere, you might take a bit to figure it out, but if it wasn't going anywhere and a funky energy line connecting it to another ship, you should be able to get it quickly.

[@kR-qj7rw]

to note also TR isd's has different models and weapon arrengement ingame for the isd one and 2 variants

[@Duchess_Van_Hoof]

Oooh, good catch.

[@malum6585]

I personally like both the TR design and the Remake design. The TR design like you said has great detail, and its turbo lasers don’t move, which is actually really good because it means less lines of coding needed to make the ship function. However, the Remake version does have rotating turbolasers, which is a nice touch, but it requires new lines of coding for each individual turret added onto the ship. Like you said, it’s cinematic at best, and it does okay in single player, but multiplayer will be more desync sensitive since there’s more code going on.

[@_solaris_4057]

Desyncs occur due to assertion and SFX errors in the code, you could in theory have the best ultra detailed mod and never desync as long as there are no errors. Turrets, ship polygons, shields and Armor systems never cause an desync.

[@malum6585]

Assertion and SFX errors? I’ll admit I’m not an expert so could you elaborate on those topics for me?

[@miqvPL]

You missed the Imperial Star Destroyer from Republic at War mod and it's definitely my favourite, with the republic markins, being considerably bigger than the Victory class and having a ton of hardpoints. When supported by a frigate or two it can attack a lv 3 station and win. Other than that Awakening of the Rebellion has a great looking Imperial Star Destroyer, and they also make a huge difference on the battlefield

[@DarkSide_Gaming21338]

I personally like remake the best even with the at times dark lighting. I’m one of those people that likes to zoom in on the action and just the little details like with turbo lasers moving to find a new target and just how it looks when the guns fire just does it for me. Though I will say in terms of detail on the ships I like aotr and remake about the same

[@Duchess_Van_Hoof]

Let's be fair here. The reason we come back to this game after all these years is to watch a Star Destroyer fire turbolaser volley after volley at Rebel ships, and it is the one game where it looks and feels amazing. And damn it has gotten gorgeous over the years with the mods.

[@Jin-1337]

@@Duchess_Van_Hoof it's definitely the best in graphics. The gameplay is alright as well. The small but important details like guns rotating in real time really does make battles more satisfying. Try using a Bellator star destroyer and you'll see what I mean.

[@Commissar_Eiven]

One time I remember this is ingrained in my memory a battle against separate his holdouts as the Galactic Empire as the space was dark and there was no sun and we I could only see the engines and I could barely see the fighters every time I ship exploded the darkness became light it was quite intense and absolutely beautiful it made a blue dark space into a canvas of destroyed ships and the irony is I had Grand admiral thrawn as the leader so you could technically say that thrawn was the painter and he added a little bit of Orange

[@Commissar_Eiven]

The only thing I wish is that the ship's carcasses would stay longer as debris so I could take a screenshot of that amazing battle

[@sourballs1248]

Which mod was this?

[@xSuperFryx]

8:52 he called them sensor domes babyyyy. Shield Dome Gang: 0 Sensor Dome Gang: 1 😎 Edit: 10:49 he calls them shield generators. shield dome gang gets a point 😔

[@arandomperson7713]

nah bro he just said that the sensor domes had a shield generator on them

[@ericdraven7185]

Who the fuck cares…. Your never going to get a girlfriend thinking that way

[@xSuperFryx]

@@ericdraven7185 jokes on you Eric

[@davidhansen5574]

remakes old models are over 100.000 polies.. all of his ships had that, whats why there was so many problems with the mod in the old days

[@theofficerfactory2625]

Thrawn's revenge mod but with rotating turrets would be just awesome in my book.

[@redenginner]

I wouldn’t mind a submod but they just got the sync error rate low enough to where multiplayer is playable

[@aconfusedrock3054]

Good stuff, Charlie. Keep it going.

[@nathannate5982]

Awakening of the Rebellion's/Remake's model is definetly my favorite. Nice video!

[@Miratesus]

I havent seen many of the newer mods but I remember that Phoenix Rising had a great ISD model, You could really feel the heavy guns pack a punch.

[@coltrinculo703]

I love eawr and thrawns revenge models. For different reasons eawr i suse when i just want pwetty. Thrawns i find is a nice ballenc3 9f pretty and functional (i only have a aing laptop with an i5-9300h and a gtx 1650 so frames can be an issue at times with eawr) Sorry about typos, far to lazy to go fox them

[@TempestsFist]

I like the clip of Charlie "Oh look! They do look different!" at the beginning. it was a funny little clip that made the video that much better.

[@Soundwave142]

Good video on the details. I must say the Remake's realism makes it more immersive but credit is due to Thrawn's Revenge making it more compatible. Speaking of the turrets, they we were fairly noticeable to me and in the original game it kind of annoyed me that the ISD main batteries did not turn, it would be better if they were not there, which is why I enjoy Remake's detail. Back on immersion, a ship having turrets, the main batteries at least makes it move immersive like you are in a scene from Star Wars. For example, seeing your two Imperial II's main batteries pound Tyber Zhan's flagship would be quite a scene. I was actually surprised that Remakes ISD's three middle secondary turrets also moved. If I had to compromise, I would have extra details textured based, like in Thrawn's Revenge and have Remake's turret details, at least for the the main batteries.

[@Duchess_Van_Hoof]

I thought this would be about gameplay, but I really appreciate the observations on visual design in video games, and how little things make an enormous difference. And now that I am aware of it, I do quite like Thrawn's Revenge cheating a little in order to optimize the game further. More videos like this please!

[@Vipersnake21]

Corey and his team has such a unique artystyle and and every model has the same artstyle, and that is why I think this ist the ISD model

[@Blackout-ln2dq]

I love how tr makes the ISD’s stronger than the mc 80s but I love the look of the ISD’s from aotr

[@MYTHGUNDAM]

Dayum, no mention on the ISD from Republic at War

[@jbingfa]

U r my hero and i am not joking , Graphics is everything in a game competing story line and gameplay.

[@heavyarms55]

There's really no comparison among EAW mods for me. TR and FOTR and the other mods that Corey's team are making at *THE* definitive way to play the game. Other mods occasionally have specific ideas I like more or the occasional very specific vehicle or hero choice that I like better. But none come close to the incredible package that is EAW Expanded (what the TR/FOTR refers to as their collection of mods, also counting Revan's Revenge and Imperial Reign) It's not that I'm saying other mods are bad, they aren't. Remake is... visually impressive. And AOTR does some cool things with structures that I really like and has merit for it's somewhat smaller scale. But They just aren't as impressive or as fun for me.

[@abelhuszar9312]

Depends on your preferences. If you like big arcady battles, with less focus on tactical decisions then EAW Expanded is for you. But if you are a hardcore strategy game fan, who likes micromanaging units and prefer a more stretegic approach to battles, then AotR and Remake are much more suitable for you. Nonetheless Expanded has still the best GC mechanics of all mods, but for me thats the only appealing aspect of TR and FOTR.

[@heavyarms55]

@@abelhuszar9312 Yeah you and me aren't gonna see eye to eye. lol

[@plaguemaster308]

@@abelhuszar9312 I agree with this.

[@Jin-1337]

Thrawns revenge really brings a lot to the table with more to come. The government system and events with different factions to choose from.

[@cumunist2120]

@@abelhuszar9312 eawx goes for the more grand approach emphasizing huge battles and grand strategy you can feel the differences in each faction and how they’re run and how they progress through the eras. Over the aotr approach which emphasizes the struggle of the rebellion and rising from a weak dis-unified resistance to a bigger rebel alliance able to finally compete fleet to fleet with the empire. We’ll have to see how imperial reign treats the era to truly compare

[@PeterTheGamer1]

I'm a fanboy of the TR models, but I really do appreciate the detail EAW Remake put into theirs

[@Richard_T800]

Thrawns revenge is my favorite mod for game play but remake mod is by far the best if it comes to graphics. I would love to see a mod that combines both

[@jbingfa]

I think they should remodel EaW Remake based on models as made in Rogue One , the Realism in that movie is fantastic.

[@andrewa700]

man if only TR had moving turrets, it be the mod id only use lol

[@bioboy1819]

If TR had the EAWR style I would totally play it

[@JohnBachofer]

It should be worth mentioning taking a look at these models that it looks like the dimensions of YodenMods ISD and the original Forces of Corruption one look like they're based on the dimensions of the super high end poly ISD model by user FractalSponge. I kind of have a love hate relationship with that model because of the dimensions scheme. While FractalSponge's model is really rich in detail it's proportionally inaccurate. Which carried over to the Forces of Corruption and YodenMods ISD. In that is much wider than the actual design blueprints and the bridge neck is much shorter.

[@kennethferland5579]

Yea FractalSponge has promulgated a lot of bad proportions, all these ISDs are ludicously narrow and triangular. The real ISD filming model has a 40 degree wedge angle is practically a diamond shape. He's Flanderized it nearly as bad as the Executor which has been getting pointier and poitier the more people exagerate the length. This consistent patern for ships to be make sharper and more knife like is really anoying as artists think it make the ship look 'meaner' or 'faster' or some nonsense.

[@drlca6601]

this is why the Titan model in Absolute Chaos my favourite. EaWR's is way too angular comparatively. The booty of AC's Titan--wherever that model is derived-- is so beautiful with the curves. My favourite ship in EaW.@@kennethferland5579

[@tyrionlannister4920]

they should make a Empire at War 2 with all those modders... i want an up to date game like Awakening of the Rebellion with remake graphics and thrawn's revenge campaign gameplay... and way more factions and campaigns to go silly like in yoden

[@Moon_Cricket_Stinks]

This is just on space combat: I think thrawns revenge does the best job at handling massive space battles due to design choices. No way you can get the economy of scale with the other mods without severe lag and crashing. I give corey Loses the win for allowing such massive battles to run so smoothly. Remake feels the most logical since its the only mod where you can clearly see the ISD fire small laser cannons on top of turbolasers. Also i love their VSD missile choice the most. Also fighter/bomber partical effects look the most clean. Love seeing how the torpedoes look. AOTR seems to have the most diverse weapon systems and performances in game, and also a high number of weapon systems that arent tacked to a hardppint, allowong you to get more out of your ships than nothing, or hardly nothing. So it really depends on your playstyle, if you like massive scale battles withiut killing the game and your computer Thawns revenge, if you like seeing a beautiful peartical/lighting Remake, if you like seeing the diversity of different weapons being used Awakening ifnthe rebellion. I play all 3 when i have a certain itch to scratch. Almost 3k hours and this game never gets boring 😂

[@DanY-mj4gl]

idk who the hell told you it's a sensor dome, but it's actually an external bridge deflector shield generator.

[@eemilmiettunen697]

Just a reminder that you can use Reshade to get that remake cinematic look to any mod!

[@Delta2357]

TBH, I'd prefer a comparison in mechanics than models. It's funny to see how ISDs work in different mods, how a few make it stronger or specialized in range...

[@SuperExtremeTNT]

i might be completely wrong however when you were talking about the remake ploy count in blender you showed the ISD for remake before it was updated to a much more detailed one

[@CthulhusMonocle]

Love Empire at War, but I find I get huge frame drops with mods like Thrawns Revenge and ReMake.

[@revan7455]

Same but so far it’s still playable

[@StarBornMichael]

You should go into Sub mods design as well. Hell Cooler sub-mod has its own Galactic class Star Destroyer model.

[@snfR44]

The Remake model you're showing in Blender during "Details & Model differences" section is the older one than what is used in the gameplay footage.

[@jbingfa]

Awakening guys in Moddb say their 2.8 version is unstable , in truth is not runnable , you need to buy the game in steam in order to download the latest 2.11 mod. Frankly i am not thrilled , remake is cool and thrawn seems decent. I am also messing with Ultimate Empire mod which looks more like nuts compare to these behemoths. BUT as soon as the awakening dudes upload new versions i will try it. Nice vid.

[@DarkJedireaper]

As a long time Star Wars fan and a fellow Brit I am disappoined to hear you call it the Exec-utor. The ship was named by Vader the Exe-cu-tor! Because it executes his enemies.

[@dovahkiindaddy4556]

AOTR is best mod

[@carls7201]

Do you have a personal favorite EAW mod in terms of looks?

[@KeyCeh]

Nice video! Has somebody a quick answear to me, which Mod is JUST offering Star Wars LEGENDS content? I played Remake but theres too much Disney´s Star Wars content for me to fully enjoy. I´m new to the Scene :D

[@EcksToo]

TR & AotR does focus on Legends content only! - Charlie

[@arandomperson7713]

yeah the devs from Remake also hate disnep, they mostly add that stuff as a meme, putting puns in the description of most of those heroes

[@KeyCeh]

@@arandomperson7713 well, is there a way to play remake without any disney content? nice to hear the true star wars fans are united with their hate on what disney did :)

[@herbivorethecarnivore8447]

I wish I could play these mods but it lags far too badly for me to be playable

[@SoutherStacker007]

Great video bud

[@Miktro980]

Remake is the only mod that's feel real, the others have goofy animations. I don't know why the other mods do not have this feature.

[@aresnir2725]

10:59 This is called normal mapping.

[@buzznugget]

I just want vanilla game with improved graphics. I'm not a good strategy gamer, but vanilla EAW seems to be manageable at my skill level. All mods add a bunch of complexity that isn't my cup of tea. I get all of you love those changes, but is it any harmful to just have them optional?

[@nugget-sh7bn]

how do i get the yoden mod? i think yoden took it down. if not please link it for me thanks!

[@Supervhizor]

0:24 video summary

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

Aotr: all over the place. At times it looks like many ship mods kitbashed together. Some look super awesome, others... dont. Less spammy effects, perhaps to sedated and at times the projectiles look oddly huuge. best ground dakka feels. Tr: most solidily sleek and cohesive ship looks, everything looks like it came from the same creator. A bit spammi on the guns perhaps. In fact, looks a bit cartoonish. The missiles in particular. Remake: looks solidly homogenized, best feel in space overall. Ground is terrible, i hope it drops dead and stays buried. Bonus points for the Trump speech about the Sith interdictor Cruiser. Right in the reactor indeed. Also Vader tooltip.

[@emperorkaido8539]

lets agree that they all did good job

[@aresnir2725]

Can you please make same video about Venator models in different mods?

[@Optimusprime240]

How do you actually use the cinematic camera ingame?

[@cmdrpanorpa8631]

Unfortunately my PC cant seem to handle the remake mod despite being able to run modern games really well, I presume its the CPU threading problem and maybe the fact I don't have integrated graphics. I can run everything else fine though, just a strange problem.

How did you import them in blender?

[@the_only_lonely]

Thrawns revenge is the one for me

[@thec2126]

is the remake galatic civil war?

[@kennethferland5579]

What I think is more intersting is that ALL of these ISD models are too narrow, the ISD filming model has a 40 degree angle to it's wedge and is practically a diamond shape. But this has been 'Flanderized' into the narrow triangle shape over the years by repeatedy slopy depictions of the ship which lacked proper references to the original models.

[@gwynlordofcinder6316]

Next Venator

[@Kolonol1]

It doesn't have anything to do with the graphics power now vs then because the game altogether uses so little graphical power vs other games...my laptop from 2014 (which oddly there haven't been any huge advancements in processing power and graphical power since then and my laptop is still considered a very high end high dollar computer...that shouldn't be....) Had less graphical power than my desktop from 2010. I had dual NVIDIA GTX style GPUs SLId together. And now it seems like almost everything has gone to laptops....we have effectively gone backwards when it comes to computers...

[@WeedmanSkirr]

you gorgot the corners isd 1 is triang,e isd2 is triangle with coners

[@macwelch8599]

Cool

[@james8449100]

Are there any mods that make the game use more than 4gh of ram

[@aresnir2725]

Game engine is not optimized for modern CPU and use only single core.

[@bioboy1819]

This was just promotion for EAWX over the other mods... didn't even use any negatives when referring to the TR model, even though it is a definitively worse model.

[@BaseyMiC]

Remake wipes the floor with every other mod

[@portman8909]

In all but performance.

[@aperson3280]

@@portman8909a worthy sacrifice

[@headhunter5363]

What's a name of this warship 1:45 ?

[@andrewa700]

looks likes a Procursator-class Star Destroyer

[@headhunter5363]

@@andrewa700 Thanks man so much! May the force be with you

[@typhonplume9374]

Realism in Remake.... noting the steam comments on the mod.. yea folks are going to very much disagree with that one.. remake wound up being a joke when 4.0 came out... doubt anyone takes it seriously anymore.

[@matthewtempleton222]

Which company would you trust to do EAW 3?

[@sourballs1248]

EAW 3? Let’s decide who makes the second one first…

[@phantomwraith1984]

Remake is the best eaw mod

[@7DeadlyJinxs]

I'm getting dizzy from the way you rotate the camera during cinematic view 🤢

[@bradhedgehog12]

There still dangerous

[@flowerpower2067]

you did like 4 mods here, and you spend like 3-4 mins on each, how bout instead of padding for the only mods you play why dont you instead do what you titled and do *All Star Destroyers* ofc thats a hard job but i didn't title the video.

[@EcksToo]

That’s a fair enough comment. But the video was looking at the differences in the single Imperial Star Destroyer across 4 different EAW mods. Not all ships in the Star Destroyer line. We HAVE covered videos about the strongest Star Destroyers in EAW mods though if you’re looking for a variation of SD & SSD’s! - Charlie

[@flowerpower2067]

Thanks for the reply, i do love your content to be sure, so ill be sure to check that video

[@kennethferland5579]

@@EcksToo Then you really should not have had all thouse shots of Victory Star Destroyers in the first half of the video, it had me thinking they were going to be covered and then they just disapeared with only ISD being shown after a certain point, once I realized ISD was the only thing that was actually going to be examined it made it look like the video and audio had no connection to each other.