All 50+ of the Empire's Superships!

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Corey's Datapad

Corey's Datapad

7 ай бұрын

Super star Destroyers are a big deal in the Empire, but how many did they have?
Edited by MarMarBunBun
Two fleet renders by @mrpuertorican
Additional renders by ConnerJB
ISD models and textures by evilbobthebob
Vengeance model by Terribul, Oseritzel
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Mandator models by Farshot
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@CoreysDatapad
@CoreysDatapad 7 ай бұрын
Special thanks to MarMAr for editing, and MrPuertorican and ConnerJB for some of the still-image renders. List of what I forgot so far: - 2 SSDs that were part of Black fleet (I thought for some reason they weren' confirmed as battlecruisers or SSDs, so I left them out, but Before the Storm does say all 3 are Super-class)
@Steve-em4tb
@Steve-em4tb 7 ай бұрын
I think they weren't Executors (Intimidator was the only one) but other Star Dreadnoughts, like the Vengeance, Mandator or Bellator.
@robinblagg6132
@robinblagg6132 7 ай бұрын
another one you've missed, the SSD Vengeance from the X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter Balance of Power campaign(s)
@JonarusDraconius
@JonarusDraconius 7 ай бұрын
What about that one-off Imperial invasion ship from 'Jedi Knight 2'...? Or was that not big enough to meet the 7km requirement?
@thedatatreader
@thedatatreader 7 ай бұрын
@JonarusDraconius You mean the Doomgiver? That was only 1,600 meters according to wookiepedia.
@JonarusDraconius
@JonarusDraconius 7 ай бұрын
@@thedatatreader Really? The same length as a basic ISD? Seemed *way* more special than that! Lets see... Ahh! Wookieepedia say ">1600m" - So Greater than, or, to be fair, 'not less than' might be a better way to say it. So yeah, it was at the very LEAST 1600m, but could have been longer. And it is mentioned that it was definitely 'taller' than an ISD, so even if the length IS the same, the overall 'bulk' would be greater.
@Drave_Jr.
@Drave_Jr. 7 ай бұрын
How most of the Imperial Dreadnoughts were destroyed/taken out: Way too easy to sabotage.
@daralcampbell2171
@daralcampbell2171 7 ай бұрын
Makes sense it’d be a resource drain without the bottomless bit of the Empire
@kR-qj7rw
@kR-qj7rw 7 ай бұрын
@@daralcampbell2171 it makes zero sense people just wanted their characters in stories beat the odds but everyone did it constantly lmao Boy I sure hope like 5 guys don't break in and destroy this unbelievable expensive massive ship like it is taking a freighter and sabotaging it
@kR-qj7rw
@kR-qj7rw 7 ай бұрын
@@nnnn11112 that's not so much a plot armour thing as much of a scale thing I have no issues where the super ships get sabotaged I like when imperial nerds cry (it's funny) Its the scale that bothers me like you need way more coordination and probably people to get one of these things crippled. Like you can't steer these obnoxiously large thing like a one person piloting it And being fair it's not even a Jedi thing plenty of other time it's just operatives
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 7 ай бұрын
@@nnnn11112 Jedi are kind of designed to be 1 man wrecking machines lol
@ssn2186
@ssn2186 7 ай бұрын
Don’t even need to be a Jedi, with plot armor R2-D2 destroyed an eclipse and became a planet killer along the way
@tTaseric
@tTaseric 7 ай бұрын
I have to respect just how many unique images of Executors you have.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 7 ай бұрын
16:28 SPECIFICALLY R2 was the one who crashed the eclipse into the GGun and destroyed Byss. Chopper seethes in jealousy at Legends R2's killcount.
@enisra_bowman
@enisra_bowman 7 ай бұрын
Imagine Chooper and R2 have an "competition" like Gimli and Legolas
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 7 ай бұрын
@@enisra_bowman Legends R2>Chopper>Disney R2 well, I guess it depends on how much chopper actually got done in the Clone Wars.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 7 ай бұрын
Shocking how karma hasn't set in against him during the Legacy era, although a certain distant future Tales comic involving a decrepit Threepio may have finally done it.
@Speedster___
@Speedster___ 7 ай бұрын
killed DS1 too if you think about it. droid probably has most tonnage killed
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 7 ай бұрын
@Speedster___ R2 was fried partway through the DS1 fight, remember. He can't get the usual credit while unconscious for the killshot. He did carry the plans though...
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 7 ай бұрын
If I had a decicred for every time a Star Dreadnought rammed a Torpedo Sphere, I would have two decicreds, which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
@CoreysDatapad
@CoreysDatapad 7 ай бұрын
That we *know* of.
@matthewturner5178
@matthewturner5178 7 ай бұрын
They want to pop the big balloon. Wouldn’t you?
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 7 ай бұрын
So, that leaves, what, only one Torp Sphere remaining as of the Yuuzhan Vong War?
@seanholland1947
@seanholland1947 7 ай бұрын
What are torpedo spheres
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 7 ай бұрын
@@seanholland1947 Corey might have a video on it already but they're massive almost spheres (They used to be like a third or quarter the length of a SSD and far thicker but they didn't get scaled up when the Executor went from 8km to 19.) They're loaded with torpedoes to nuke down part of a planetary shield so the generator or projector below can be blasted with turbolasers.
@BoonThran2
@BoonThran2 7 ай бұрын
such a shame that these beautiful ships were destroyed so easily
@weldonwin
@weldonwin 7 ай бұрын
I do like the Vengeance class, with it's razor thin, dagger like shape
@Etaukan
@Etaukan 7 ай бұрын
The opposite of plot armor; the more powerful a bad guy's ship is, the more fragile and vulnerable it is.
@a_tree5793
@a_tree5793 7 ай бұрын
Yeah well that's what happens when your writing staff has a combined IQ of 6
@iamblight707
@iamblight707 7 ай бұрын
Many took down entire fleets or decimated entire worlds before being destroyed.
@yourstruly4817
@yourstruly4817 6 ай бұрын
And by rebel scum
@mattwilson8298
@mattwilson8298 7 ай бұрын
Apparently the bigger the ship, the easier it is for 2 people to sneak on board and wreak a bit of havoc.
@NeSeeger
@NeSeeger 7 ай бұрын
The imperial "shyness" away from automation and droids, from fear spread after the clone wars, led to such ships have WAY too much crew then needed.
@archaean2331
@archaean2331 7 ай бұрын
@@papapalps2415 Both canon and legends agree on 280,000 crew with canon also stating 38,000 troops and support. That's like a five second check my guy, come on now.
@archaean2331
@archaean2331 7 ай бұрын
@@papapalps2415 Sorry I should've finished.... Versus a Subjugator class the crew of which consists of 23,350 for a ship roughly a quarter of the size and less advanced, and apparently can have a minimum crew of 900 which is a tad obscene in the opposite direction, but the point still stands.
@archaean2331
@archaean2331 7 ай бұрын
@@papapalps2415 My point is that a ship with that is very comparable, literally a quarter the size, can be operated with an 1/8th the crew. So yes, the Executor class specifically as well as most star dreadnoughts are excessively inefficient with crew complements. To the point even as is stated in the video that zero command was incapable of crewing their star dreadnoughts, signifying an extreme lack of automation, versus other, older ships. See my point yet? Also, yes, scale is indeed comical in star wars. The GAR was.... not even comically, obscenely or absurdly but some combination of all 3 combined, undersized for the conflict and enemy they faced. That doesn't excuse other obvious failures in scaling when on other occasions scaling is properly achieved.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 7 ай бұрын
I had figured the unnamed executor at Fondor was meant to be the Terror's replacement. Given it was being built with a cloak.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 7 ай бұрын
Still a waste, though at least the vessel was made with Muggle accessibility in mind. (Sorry not sorry, Stealth-X.)
@Reverenz88-14
@Reverenz88-14 7 ай бұрын
I'm just loving this whole business with "a group of rebels board and steal/destroy an Executor". Like, I can just picture - a quiet day at Wilhelmshaven, the anchorage of the Imperial Navy. A group of dudes on dinghies sneak in, board a dreadnought... and take it out to sea... and actually get away.. It reaches new heights of ridiculous so much so that it's cool😅
@iratepirate3896
@iratepirate3896 6 ай бұрын
St Nazaire Raid...
@josesanchezrodriguez1783
@josesanchezrodriguez1783 7 ай бұрын
Something interesting about the Night Hammer is that it shares it's name with the 18th Sector Army which was also headquartered on Eriadu. It's name likely comes from this and not from Delvarus' lover.
@ExecutiveSonda
@ExecutiveSonda 7 ай бұрын
*Delvarus' hammer, haha.
@Speedster___
@Speedster___ 7 ай бұрын
lmao@@ExecutiveSonda
@hanifloka130
@hanifloka130 7 ай бұрын
If I had a nickel for every time an SSD rams into something, I'd have 4 nickles. Which to be fair, isn't a lot but losing those SSDs must've hurt... a lot.
@nicohahnel8239
@nicohahnel8239 7 ай бұрын
The Lusankya destroyed a Vong World Ship (the first every destroyed) and its commander, the father of the military leader of all Vong und creator of the Vong war doctrin. The lost of the World Ship shocked the Vong thinking these ships can't be destroyed which buyed enough time for the Galactic forces to reorganise and beat the Vong.
@ericzaiz8358
@ericzaiz8358 7 ай бұрын
Out of tge four... Lucy was the best use of the Ramming since it had massive Stragetic and tactical ramifications making it worth it. The Eclipse 2... is a far second since she got a collateral on Byss. But since that was done by Artoo assuming control and not willingly be the crew kinda doesn't count when compare to the other 3. More of an enemy action deal.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 7 ай бұрын
​@nicohahnel8239 Not the first destroyed. There were a couple of small worldships destroyed via weird nonsense on the ice planet in Vector Prime. And Kyp aborted one. Borleias was just the first time we saw one destroyed in a space battle.
@Theology.101
@Theology.101 7 ай бұрын
There is just something so visceral about the Bellator’s narrow frame, ya feel?
@projectblackwing2510
@projectblackwing2510 7 ай бұрын
I feel ya
@TheTrytix
@TheTrytix 7 ай бұрын
Same can be said about the Vengeance and it's even narrower frame.
@InvictusMatrix
@InvictusMatrix 7 ай бұрын
Or the Arc Hammer and it's even even narrower frame.
@Theology.101
@Theology.101 7 ай бұрын
@@TheTrytix yeah but it lacks the hump. That sorta mishapen look really speaks to me
@andrevivier3783
@andrevivier3783 7 ай бұрын
Gotta love the party-sized space Doritos
@TheKingofbrooklin
@TheKingofbrooklin 7 ай бұрын
Dalaa clearly didn't know that in naval tradition renaming a warship brings bad luck.
@nomar5spaulding
@nomar5spaulding 7 ай бұрын
You're making me want to play more EAWX. Warlords Period is definitely my favorite thing in Star Wars (Legends or Canon).
@TheEventHorizon909
@TheEventHorizon909 7 ай бұрын
He is literally the lead developer of the EAWX mods, Thrawns revenge (the one set post endor) included
@matthewturner5178
@matthewturner5178 7 ай бұрын
This is what we call “marketing”
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 7 ай бұрын
@@matthewturner5178 Technically since he can't get payed for the mod, the mod is marketing for the channel
@TheEventHorizon909
@TheEventHorizon909 7 ай бұрын
@@DIEGhostfish he can get paid for the ads on this video tho lol, also Patreon
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 7 ай бұрын
@TheEventHorizon909 I know, the channel and patreon are the money makers, so the mod is an advertisement for the channel was the joke.
@Cerran032
@Cerran032 7 ай бұрын
I would love to have seen the Terror decloak during a losing a battle, single-handedly turning the tide
@tuscan9617
@tuscan9617 6 ай бұрын
There’s a Fanfiction where this happens in the closing moments of the battle of Endor. Akbar was stunned to find a trap inside of a trap.
@dixieslav1274
@dixieslav1274 5 ай бұрын
​@@tuscan9617sounds interesting. Can you direct me to it?
@tuscan9617
@tuscan9617 5 ай бұрын
@@dixieslav1274 Dauntless - Imperial Officer SI (Star Wars) By BlackDragon98 on Spacebattles
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 7 ай бұрын
Imperials and Yevetha just throwing down those uno reverse cards.
@chjeremy6538
@chjeremy6538 7 ай бұрын
Schrodinger's Super stardestroyer, simultaneously need million of troopers to operate and get taken over by a few saboteur
@eccosong
@eccosong 7 ай бұрын
50+..huh yeah that sounds like enough for every Imperial Remnant to have been able to pull an SSD out of their ass. Seriously felt like those things got passed out like candy after the Empire fell.
@mill2712
@mill2712 7 ай бұрын
I mean, it is the galactic empire. 50 actually seems kind of short when you think about it.
@egoalter1276
@egoalter1276 7 ай бұрын
The british wmpire had 32 dereadnought battleships in service in 1917, with 4 more on the stocks, and twice as many pre dreadnoughts. These are their equivalent in SW. 50 of them for a power that controls significantly more than half of the inhabited area seems low if anything.
@eccosong
@eccosong 7 ай бұрын
Oh i'm sure the Empire had a whole lot more, even if SSD's were probably the most expensive thing they built short of the two deathstars, though the real question there is what happened to all of those.
@eccosong
@eccosong 7 ай бұрын
@@papapalps2415 True, though i'm mostly talking about things around an Executor's size, of which i doubt they had one for all 1000 or so sectors, though with the amount that crawled out of the woodwork post Endor, maybe they did. lol
@alexanderzippel8809
@alexanderzippel8809 Ай бұрын
There are 25.000 ISDs. There is roughly 1 SSD for 500 ISDs…. A ratio way smaller than anything you can find in real life
@brandonrooney5106
@brandonrooney5106 7 ай бұрын
Corey, god bless you for this long form content. It’s all so high quality. I’ve gotten so much cleaning done listening to your longer videos in the background lately.
@nerdwatch1017
@nerdwatch1017 7 ай бұрын
The one thing I loved about the first order’s Supremacy Star dreadnought was that is was used to build there star destroyers and service them. That’s something that definitely I’d want put into my SSD ships.
@NeSeeger
@NeSeeger 7 ай бұрын
The Supremacy might have to be re-classed as something bigger. Im not sure what tho. Supremacy class Starbase Dreadnought?
@nerdwatch1017
@nerdwatch1017 7 ай бұрын
@@NeSeeger that works
@nerdwatch1017
@nerdwatch1017 7 ай бұрын
@@NeSeeger or SSF Super Star Fortress
@NeSeeger
@NeSeeger 7 ай бұрын
@@nerdwatch1017 That sounds perfect, SSF
@nerdwatch1017
@nerdwatch1017 7 ай бұрын
@@NeSeeger I wonder if Dave Filoni has plans for more of those eye of scion rings to do a Outbound Flight type story idea down the line
@violetlight1548
@violetlight1548 7 ай бұрын
As impractical as ships like these are, you can't deny they're cool (and Rule of Cool is what half the tech in SW operates on). I've come up with my own class of Super Star Destroyer for my Empire of the Hand AU: Renaissance-class Super Star Destroyer (about 12 km long) Built: Kuat Drive Yard’s Spiral Shipyards, Nirauan system. Officially finished construction in 21 ABY, but Admiral Parck would occasionally make use of its incomplete state before then. The Renaissance class is a shorter, wider, heavier-set, ship than the more familiar Executor-class SSDs from the old Galactic Empire, taking several design features from the prototype Eclipse class, including integrated interdiction technology, a complement of over 400 TIE Defender fighters, and a superlaser capable of cracking a planetary crust (or a Yuuzhan Vong world ship). Like other Empire of the Hand designs, the Renaissance-class’ bridge is not located in an exposed tower, but rather deep inside the ship, with cameras and a powerful sensor suite compensating for the lack of viewports. Borrowing from Mon Calamari designs, the Renaissance-class also utilizes overlapping shield technology. As well as standard Imperial weaponry like turbolasers, tractor beams and ion cannons, the Renaissance -class also utilizes Chiss Ascendency weaponry such as Plasma ball launchers and breacher missiles. The main difference from the earlier class (and, the "selling point" that convinced then-Grand Moff Xelarra to sign off on its creation) is the ability of the Renaissance-class to carry up to five Imperial or Spiral- class Star Destroyers on the hull itself, with the smaller (but still capital sized) ships docking on five triangular recesses on the main hull, 3 on top of the superstructure, two below. The Renaissance-class can thus act as a mobile repair station as well as the command ship. Its main hanger bay can internally carry ships up to 300 m in length (i.e. the size of an Arquitens-class light cruiser or an Explorer-class research/scout vessel). The Renaissance also has integrated Interdictor technology, and is equipped with several cloaking devices (necessary because of the ship’s size). These two systems cannot normally be used at the same time, though Grand Admiral Thrawn remembers a few tricks learned earlier in his career to get around this limitation. As cloaking devices are double-blind - they protect a ship from detection, but said ship also cannot see outside of it when activated through conventional means, the cloak is most effectively used with the cooperation of an Imperial Knight, who can use the Force to sense outside the cloak. However, with proper timing and practice the cloaks can be used without the assistance of Force-users. As the Empire of the Hand did not sign the Pellaeon-Gavrisom Treaty, they are not prohibited from using cloaking devices. Known vessels in the class: SSD Renaissance CO: Fleet Admiral Voss Parck (19-28 ABY), Grand Admiral Thrawn (28 ABY +)XO: Commodore Eli Vanto (28 ABY+) Starfighter commander: Colonel Jagged Fel (28 ABY +) Flagship of the Navy of the Hand. Displays the same Paccosh signil as the ISD Chimaera on its hull. Commissioned by Fleet Admiral Parck, in anticipation of Grand Admiral Thrawn’s rumoured return in 19 ABY. Thrawn (actually his clone, known as ‘Raw’nuru’ until he was ready to retake the mantle of Grand Admiral) did not take command until the beginning of the Yuuzhan Vong invasion, after the Evacuation of Lysatra.
@NeSeeger
@NeSeeger 7 ай бұрын
Their overall failure is partially the same as to why the Imperial class failed. Imperial starfighter doctrine was terrible considering only about 10% of pilots actually passed the training. The TIE/ln fighter is ok but its shortcomings fail it overall.
@NeSeeger
@NeSeeger 7 ай бұрын
@@papapalps2415 Imperial-classes (both 1 and 2) failed to win the war for the Empire. This was mostly due to naval doctrine. The lack of proper fighter support left the large vessels vulnerable. My opinion is based off of what we are shown over the games, books, comics, shows, and movies. However large, numerous, or deadly these ships were they lost. Because they, like most of the Imperial military, are shown to be VERY incompetent. Around a dozen are destroyed in the rebels series alone costing over 37K ship personnel plus complement which accounts for around 47K. TLDR: Yes they, ISD1 and ISD2, were wildly produced and were very powerful, but they are more often then not shown to be not very successful in what they were designed to do, and a big part of that failure is their starfighter complement.
@merafirewing6591
@merafirewing6591 7 ай бұрын
​@@NeSeeger but those two classes did served long after the Galactic Empire's fall.
@matejkar
@matejkar 7 ай бұрын
A fan ship i would like to see some lore created for is the Wyvern of the Abyss by Jamison Cunningham. By looks alone it appears to be the largest super star destroyer in comparison to the ISDs in the preview animation.
@m2ndgigdh543
@m2ndgigdh543 7 ай бұрын
I remember one massive Imperial ship from the game Jedi Knight 2, I can't probably remember the name more but I think it was calld "Doomviga" or something like that.
@CoreysDatapad
@CoreysDatapad 7 ай бұрын
Doomgiver, yeah. Its size is unclear but even the larger possible estimates wouldn't tend to get it into the SSD size class.
@NeidalRuekk
@NeidalRuekk 7 ай бұрын
By the end of the Yuuzhan Vong War, only one DEFINITELY remained, the Guardian. There was talk of a 'Super Star Destroyer' in the Imperial Remnant's hands, POSSIBLY the Megador, but it was only seen once and linking the two is guesswork at best.
@CoreysDatapad
@CoreysDatapad 7 ай бұрын
The Megador was seen repeatedly, it played a big role in the following books.
@NeidalRuekk
@NeidalRuekk 7 ай бұрын
@@CoreysDatapad Beyond the Swarm War I didn't read much
@AlexeyPiet
@AlexeyPiet 7 ай бұрын
As an Historian for Imperial naval Developments and Warfare you can provide the sources for all the data you have here, right? (Just a joke) Yeah, the Datapad with it's clean presentation of informations is my top Star Wars - Nerd Channel! There is nothing like the smell of Turbolaser trails that crushed local planetary Rebel cells in the morning!
@23GreyFox
@23GreyFox 7 ай бұрын
I like the Mandator 2 and the Bellator-class much more than the Executor-class. In all the games it looks like a smaller ship with the same firepower, so that it is easier to bring all your firepower on one point.
@zaleost
@zaleost 6 ай бұрын
Honestly I much prefer those two designs as well (both in general and in game). Often I find that it works far better to have a fleet with one reasonably large ship that has a smaller enough cost that you can deploy it alongside a larger number of capital ships, rather than a single big ship that practically has to be deployed on its own.
@TheAns51
@TheAns51 6 ай бұрын
imo bellator is my favourite ssd class. It's design is so cool and it looks like it could easily take any other ship ever build (without any superweapons).
@jabcreations
@jabcreations 2 ай бұрын
16:11 "luckily for Palpatine he just had to hop in to a new clone body." Because? Because fuck Episode VI.
@davepeters1311
@davepeters1311 7 ай бұрын
cory i love you thank you for doing this. most SSD lists only include executor-types, so thanks for bringing the rest of the SSDs to the limelight
@cptjoseph13
@cptjoseph13 7 ай бұрын
very happy you made this, i would like to see a list video for lesser imperial warlords if possible as i hadn't heard of some of the ones in this video
@intruder313
@intruder313 7 ай бұрын
I bet 'Destroyed by 2 Jedi' is part of the Construction Timeline for these :)
@JaxonHaze1994
@JaxonHaze1994 7 ай бұрын
Great stuff! I'm looking forward to the wacky super weapons video!
@fernandoqueirozpopovic7024
@fernandoqueirozpopovic7024 6 ай бұрын
Finally some star wars lore i can actually get behind.
@Littlemilkjug533
@Littlemilkjug533 7 ай бұрын
My favorite is the Arcadia class in the mod it just looks so awesome
@evanhenderson1760
@evanhenderson1760 7 ай бұрын
Aramadia?
@Littlemilkjug533
@Littlemilkjug533 7 ай бұрын
@@evanhenderson1760 which ever is the one used by the yavetha leader
@evanhenderson1760
@evanhenderson1760 7 ай бұрын
@@Littlemilkjug533 yeah the aramadia
@louischerik4557
@louischerik4557 7 ай бұрын
The Arcadia is definitely an awesome ship, but it's from the wrong franchise 😂
@peterkallend5012
@peterkallend5012 4 ай бұрын
All we really learn here is that if you make a really big ship, it'll attract a lot of attention. Most of the largest warships in history were sunk after having little to no effect in battles in their respective theater or war (Bismark, Tirpitz, Yamato, Arizona, Oklahoma to name a few). It also reminds me of one of Murphy's combat laws, don't be conspicuous because it draws enemy fire.
@thegreenmanofnorwich
@thegreenmanofnorwich 7 ай бұрын
I prefer the Eclipse to the Eclipse II. I just think it's got a more interesting design amd looks kind of gnarly and mysterious.
@drumsofberk
@drumsofberk 7 ай бұрын
Scrolling past my recommended, I read the title in the thumbnail as, "The Empire's Doughnuts."
@NeSeeger
@NeSeeger 7 ай бұрын
Those would be the torpedo spheres
@omganotherun
@omganotherun 7 ай бұрын
FYI - Many of these are modded into "Starsector" and are quite playable. Slow as fck, outrageously expensive, inefficient and tough as nails. It will give you a wonderful opportunity to experience these massive ships in the environment they were meant to be in; slow and gigantic fleet battles where it lumbers into into the enemy, daring anyone to enter its weapons range.
@MusicalBoarder
@MusicalBoarder 2 ай бұрын
What is this game you speak of?
@omganotherun
@omganotherun 2 ай бұрын
@@MusicalBoarder Just put "starsector star wars mod" into KZbin. "Starsector" is the pc game and there is a giant up-to-date Star Wars mod bringing a vast menagerie of SW ships and planets into it. They went way too hard in adding every obscure fighter craft SW has to offer.
@clonebin0
@clonebin0 7 ай бұрын
As someone who's a big fan of the novels, great job with this video!
@artyfartblast3289
@artyfartblast3289 6 ай бұрын
RTD, you know exactly how to press the buttons of old fans. And I love you for it! Thank you for these beautiful moments. ❤
@yoshi5920
@yoshi5920 7 ай бұрын
Is it ever explained how they simply “hid” the lusankya under Coruscant’s surface?
@andrewbutton2039
@andrewbutton2039 7 ай бұрын
Been a while, but I think they disguised it as a skyscraper.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 7 ай бұрын
@andrewbutton2039 It ran under the city, the city was rebuilt atop it, and all witnesses mindwiped by Palpatine possibly with Inquisitorial assistance. Until a later source said it was built at Kuat, one theory was that it literally got built in-place by the droids that demolish and rebuild coruscant.
@Ethan0433
@Ethan0433 7 ай бұрын
That comes from X-Wing: The Krytos Trap. As far as hiding it, the Empire literally razed a 100km area of the city, landed the ship on a massive repulsorlift platform, then rebuilt the city over it. It wasn't hiding so much as buried. It shot it's way out and killed millions, then punched a hole through a 2 layer planetary shield to get out. There's a section where Wedge was wondering if the Emperor was able to use the dark side to wipe everyone's memory of that to keep it secret, since the alternative is they simply killed all the witnesses.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 7 ай бұрын
@Ethan0433 Krytos Trap itself wasn't clear how it got there, just a selection of theories. And *technically* they lowered the shields before Isard had finished shooting her way out of the bottom one. The alternative waa her turning the guns on the city to force them to drop it.
@Ethan0433
@Ethan0433 7 ай бұрын
@@DIEGhostfish So yes, those are theories, but given I haven't found other info on it, I figured the book where it leaves was probably a decent source. And yes, it absolutely shot it's way out of the shields. Once it breached the lower shield, forward guns focused the upper ones while the mid-ship and rear ones kept the lower hole open. The ship then engages one of the Golan defense platforms, which manages to break the SSD's shields, and they jettison the lift cradle to block fire while they escape.
@genesiswan4018
@genesiswan4018 5 ай бұрын
Sure enough…most fans doesn’t know SSD Vengeance… the task force vengeance led into Airam Sector and the SSD was destroyed by Rogue Squadron but the campaign was a draw where the Rebellion could not establish a shipyard in the sector while Imperial could not eliminate the Rebel forces and loss their SSD
@egoalter1276
@egoalter1276 7 ай бұрын
The merits of mahanism in a monopolar world are perhaps somewhat questionable, but its not like the Uas suddenly decommisionaed its CABGs at the end of the cold war. Star dreadnoughts are the capital ships of SW and are the ultimate tools of sea (well, space) control. Their importance and power is sufficient as evidenced by the waelords era, to single handedly turn the outcomes of entire campigns. You may be able to build tgojsands of snubfighters for the cost of a single executor, but they will not win you a campaign to conquer a major core world. A star dreadnought might.
@shadowhenge7118
@shadowhenge7118 7 ай бұрын
Such a cool design.
@frozarburst6350
@frozarburst6350 7 ай бұрын
Seeing how many get destroyed, as Vader would say, "All too easy"
@rottenroads1982
@rottenroads1982 2 ай бұрын
The Vengeance Class Super Star Destroyers should 100% be added into Star Wars Canon.
@achiltsompanos447
@achiltsompanos447 7 ай бұрын
The honour of having the thickest plot armour in every franchise, by far, goes to the rebels, hand down. I mean one regular SSD should be enough to wreak havoc on any rebel fleet and their rickety, outdated ships. And yet the rebels have managed to destroy, death stars, SSD and the likes.
@CCCCC40
@CCCCC40 7 ай бұрын
Great video thank you
@gbadspcps2
@gbadspcps2 7 ай бұрын
I don't care how impractical they are, I love Super-Star Destroyers and the ridiculous size and firepower they have.
@nickraupp6104
@nickraupp6104 7 ай бұрын
Honestly more than anything these videos keep me coming back to EaW Thrawn's Revenge and that's perfectly okay with me
@michaelwhitefgguocv4713
@michaelwhitefgguocv4713 7 ай бұрын
Love the watercolors 😊
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 7 ай бұрын
The other option for the Mystery Super Ship in Destiny's Way is a Vengeance, and one of the two ships (Most fans seem to agree with you guys rhe Dominion is "only" a Bellator, but often make the Megador thr same mystery ship from Destiny's Way, and a Vengeance or Executor with a different engine count from custom work)
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 7 ай бұрын
Either way, hope the authors solve this mystery themselves.
@NightshadeDE
@NightshadeDE 7 ай бұрын
Didn’t the guardian end up over mon Cal during the Vong war? I might be mixing up my large triangles
@NightshadeDE
@NightshadeDE 7 ай бұрын
Not trying to um actually here just wondering if I am remembering that right. Great video as always Corey, especially the Night Hammer line almost spit out my coffee.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 7 ай бұрын
Guardian was at Mon Cal for the final battle there yes, IIRC could not repair and refit and get across the dovin basal mines in time to make it to thr recapture of Coruscant.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 7 ай бұрын
I always wonder if the Eclipse 2 was put together from a sovereign at the last minute.
@bellidrael7457
@bellidrael7457 5 ай бұрын
I love how time and time again officers used these ships as their flagships. Meanwhile the mortality rate of officers using these ships as their flagships-
@Marinealver
@Marinealver 7 ай бұрын
0:41 the best TCG out there
@LibertyandFreedom4
@LibertyandFreedom4 7 ай бұрын
Ok, wait, wait, wait. Will NOT be talking about any ships UNDER 7km, just think about that. That is 4.35 MILES long, currently the largest ship EVER built was the Seawise Giant, an oil supertanker that was a staggering 1504 ft/458.45m with a total tonnage of 260,941. The largest moving object built on earth and yet it is comparable to only a 418 Arrestor/Imperial Class II Frigate/Vakbeor-class cargo frigate, just, FYI.
@George_M_
@George_M_ 5 ай бұрын
I do love Dark Empire blobs ^^
@ccghidorah1
@ccghidorah1 5 ай бұрын
I don't know why, but I've always headcanoned the Dominion as a Vengeance class SSD. There's no basis for it... it just clicked in my head like that.
@jayburn00
@jayburn00 7 ай бұрын
"How rich and core they were." Describes the source of half of the political discord in the star wars universe.
@lek1223
@lek1223 7 ай бұрын
The Bellator and Allegiance Class battlecruiser are my two favorites, any bigger than that and they just become pointless.
@NeSeeger
@NeSeeger 7 ай бұрын
The superweapon focus would be cool. Seeing the Tarkin and Darksaber
@abt7560
@abt7560 4 ай бұрын
This is the first video I watched in 2024
@andrew3203
@andrew3203 5 ай бұрын
Can't help but notice that 99% of the Jedi/Rebellion/Republic/Rebels strategy was not to build up a proper military to engage the enemy, but send one or two people to deal with the enemy army/fleet/galactic invasion/superweapon and hope they manage to save them. This spans over centuries of galactic history and dozens of games/books/comics so it is something very appreciated by the public. Even worse, the Rule of Two has the Sith do the same (when they are not in power at least, but often even if they are) Still, the Sith are the ones who build armies/fleets/large ships and superweapons , which makes them the more rational ones in comparison with Jedi.
@tupe444
@tupe444 7 ай бұрын
moral of the story: don't let your self destruct button be so exposed
@gundam116
@gundam116 7 ай бұрын
These things are so huge they should literally have millions of turbo lasers? Don’t know how they couldn’t kill any other ship.
@KamenRiderGumo
@KamenRiderGumo 7 ай бұрын
I was hoping my man Jerec would get mentioned here.
@palious13
@palious13 7 ай бұрын
I had a character in the d20 Star Wars roleplaying game who was tricked by Vader and the Emperor into believing the rebellion had killed the woman he loved and so he became a Sith and 8 years after Endor he launched an attack against the New Republic with three identical Executor class destroyers, each captained by one of three female triplet sisters. His goal was to convince the New Republic he had developed a new super hyper drive so that they had to spread forces out to defend several systems and when the attack came, he would overwhelm the defenses with his fleet. He also design asnd built a huge ship, almost 50 KM long, that contained a black hole generator as a primary weapon.
@NobleNathan55
@NobleNathan55 7 ай бұрын
Where did that clip of the ssd rising over it looked like sullust come from?
@shadowedcypher537
@shadowedcypher537 7 ай бұрын
Star Wars Battlefront (2015)
@lach3v
@lach3v 4 ай бұрын
Which game(s) have you taken the footage around 4:59? Is it Empire At War: Forces of Corruption, or another one?
@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462
@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462 6 ай бұрын
The Vengeance and Eclipse 2 are my favorites.
@Wolfen443
@Wolfen443 7 ай бұрын
Nah, the problem with that big Star Wars ships and designs is that they trapped by the plot armor trap where they are used to highlight the triumph of the underdogs. they should not be taken seriously as actual effective ships, By contrast Babylon 5 does consider its larger ships far more seriously, especially the massive bombardment platforms.
@darthvail1
@darthvail1 2 ай бұрын
The old canon is so great
@otakurt1149
@otakurt1149 7 ай бұрын
for a ship with that much raw firepower it sure has some insanely flimsy internal security/defense
@grantponciano9386
@grantponciano9386 4 ай бұрын
As much as I see the oversized ships being an allegory for giant ships being destroyed in real history, a part of me wishes that we got to see the super star destroyers unleash some damage before their destruction. Even the death star got to fire at least once... Lol
@grandadmiralm7117
@grandadmiralm7117 7 ай бұрын
I was just wondering how many of these were in existence
@kristopherruiz7644
@kristopherruiz7644 6 ай бұрын
2:43 ultimately it was destroyed by the weight of Wedge Antilles TITANIC STRATEGIC GENIUS
@leviwalpole7288
@leviwalpole7288 7 ай бұрын
Was the Aramadia class mentioned?
@DDayJayke
@DDayJayke 2 ай бұрын
Super Star Destroyers ARE worth it Corey! And I'll show you why, when I defeat Rey Palpatine and her friends for the glory of the Sontaran Empire!!! Also, they just keep having them get sabotaged cause they are too lazy to write them off in an epic battle
@mightvedroppedjury5324
@mightvedroppedjury5324 4 ай бұрын
Are these in game what’s the mod pack fr especially the mandator 3 ssd
@sheilaolfieway1885
@sheilaolfieway1885 7 ай бұрын
wish we had more info on the ARC hammer considering you actually go inside it in Dark forces.
@d-man9921
@d-man9921 7 ай бұрын
What about Darth Jar Jar's 69km long superheavy interceptor dreadnought?
@toddkurzbard
@toddkurzbard 7 ай бұрын
MORAL OF THE STORY: If you're the Empire, don't let Jedi anywhere near your Super Star Destroyers.
@Anstras1_431
@Anstras1_431 7 ай бұрын
Got to Love how know one knows what the fuck Megador is. Like, they don’t tell us in ANY of the series they show her in. Like you would have thought Legacy of the force would have given us Something but NO
@dcaf94
@dcaf94 7 ай бұрын
7:59 cracked me up lol
@jiyuhong5853
@jiyuhong5853 7 ай бұрын
1:28 where is this shot from?
@Sephiroth144
@Sephiroth144 7 ай бұрын
I refuse to call it the Executor (like the lawyer); she's the Executor (the variant of Executioner) and always will be. (Seriously, what's heading Death Squadron- a lawyer or a killer?)
@iratepirate3896
@iratepirate3896 6 ай бұрын
You dont have to be a lawyer to act as an Executor. It is anyone that deals with the process of distributing assets and cash in line with a will or intestacy law.
@Sephiroth144
@Sephiroth144 6 ай бұрын
​@@iratepirate3896 And does that like the flagship of Death Squadron would be named after? Or would an archaic version of Executioner be more in line...?
@mykaela7726
@mykaela7726 5 ай бұрын
Was there not the Executor class SSD Vengeance from the game X-Wing vs Tie Fighter 2: Balance of Power?
@maddlarkin
@maddlarkin 5 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking
@justinhess2747
@justinhess2747 7 ай бұрын
Would a battlecruiser video be on the horizon? Redemption for the Praetor..
@NeSeeger
@NeSeeger 7 ай бұрын
The allegiance and some others.
@davidtaylor9593
@davidtaylor9593 6 ай бұрын
Stupid question, but where does all this backstory come from? I know there are a lot of STEU novels
@J_Ferriss
@J_Ferriss 7 ай бұрын
Capital ships are so easy to take out. C3PO can single handedly take out a Deathstar.
@roguenine9LU
@roguenine9LU 6 ай бұрын
I might have missed you talking about them, but I don't think you mentioned the Executor Class Vengence from X-Wing vs TIE Fighter: Balance of Power.
@ThomasMusings
@ThomasMusings 6 ай бұрын
It's mentioned in passing (or at least its image is)
@Zagoreni02A
@Zagoreni02A 7 ай бұрын
I would say that Intimitador was either destroyed by Chiss, some other unkown but powerful race or Yuzong Wong.
@samfromportadown
@samfromportadown 6 ай бұрын
This video started to get comical half way through, when it was up to like the fifth or sixth ship destroyed by a small band of rebels sneaking on board and sabotaging it.
@jonathanmarsh8119
@jonathanmarsh8119 7 ай бұрын
I really don't think having ships this big really helps any space faring empire. It can only be in one place at a time, if it goes down you lose a lot, and the resources to keep them running is extreme. I would think it would be a lot better to have a ton of smaller ships available for use, especially if you can have some staging planets with the resources for the crews until they need to get deployed. Then you can also put them into skeleton mode at a dock, and if one goes down, no worries. Plus, if anything in Star Wars, you see that smaller ships beat the bigger ones. Though with a ton of medium sized cruisers you can setup them up as with capital ship killers, gunboats, or faster attack ships for running down pirates.
@jonathanmarsh8119
@jonathanmarsh8119 7 ай бұрын
@@papapalps2415 you humble me sir ... I am sorry I voiced an opinion.
@jonathanmarsh8119
@jonathanmarsh8119 7 ай бұрын
@@papapalps2415 Goddamn bro ... did your one of your moms forget to buy you the dino nuggies that you wanted?
@onlypeaceindeath
@onlypeaceindeath 5 ай бұрын
They controlled an entire galaxy. The cost of even losing a thousand of them would be minimal. The first Death Star was by volume hundreds of thousands of times larger than any Executor-class, and was built on a secret budget. I would say that the Empire had more than enough resources to have all types of warships. What I find interesting is that Han Solo did say that the Empire had a lot of them. Like they where not rare at all. "Oh don't get jittery Luke, there are a lot of command ships", or something like that. That to me suggests that Star Wars fans has completely underestimated the size of the Imperial Starfleet to a pretty large extent. We know it's large enough to have more firepower than the Death Star, based on A New Hope, which would suggest that the Imperial Starfleet must be absolutely astronomical in size. "Plus, if anything in Star Wars, you see that smaller ships beat the bigger ones" In the movies, smaller ships always struggles against larger ships. Capital ships are pretty much impervious to Starfighters. It's always luck that allows fighters and and other small ships to take out larger ones. And usually during the presence of friendly capital ships.
@Speedster___
@Speedster___ 7 ай бұрын
11:19 where is that from
@stephenhuntsucker2790
@stephenhuntsucker2790 5 ай бұрын
So basically they were just a huge target that was easily defeated.
@elominsha2336
@elominsha2336 7 ай бұрын
Did you miss the SSD from X-Wing vs TIE Fighter: Balance of Power expansion, that was rammed with a blockade runner?
@rickforespring4834
@rickforespring4834 7 ай бұрын
in eve a dread can't even defend itself depending on the fit. haws for subcaps and cap fit for caps. no drones, no other fitting for smaller ships defense, so any dread has to have a fleet around it to defend it. star wars had it right!
@silverthorngoodtree5533
@silverthorngoodtree5533 7 ай бұрын
X wing Vs Tie fighter Executor was cannon, not mentioned. Many times are incorrect, given before Battle of Endor, when far far after. Mandator 1, 2, 3 all have official information.
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