Ecler WARM4 Rotary Mixer Review | Beatsource Tech

[@RobAlahn]

The Ecler Warm 4 sounds like the SAAB 900 Turbo of boutique rotary mixers. 😊 I loved my SAAB because it was quirky. Quirky doesn’t mean poorly designed or incapable. Quite the contrary with that car and this mixer. And while the sub harmonic feature probably isn’t something I’d use I’m super keen on hearing well into my late 80’s so split cue is a must for me. Great review as always @mojaxx! ✊🏽

[@dubdjnelson]

I think your review of the sub harmonic feature was very interesting and it's great to have gear educating us about gear of the past and reintroducing it. It might not be for everyone but it's really nice to see different features coming out on mixers. As rotary's are becoming popular Ecler has something brought something new to offer DJs as well as a great price. Thanks for the great reviews and insights.

[@welcometomymidlife]

Mojaxx gets my vote for the BEST reviewer of DJ gear! Keep it up!

[@derekgodbout4919]

that sub harmonic feature is epic! what a tool. old records obviously lack that sub end we're used to now. In the right hands, this is a gamechanger!

[@DocFUNKist]

The layout of this mixer is "Perfect"

[@thefunkydeep446]

Finally 4 frickin phono inputs

[@mojorises]

@@thefunkydeep446 How about Omnitronic TRM-402 for 4 phono inputs albeit in not as quite a high end but still a very capable mixer?

[@willpolr]

@@mojorisessadly omnitronic is not well made kit in my experience.

[@audioel]

Great review. Only other dj mixers I've seen a subharmonic processor on were made by Furman, back in the 80s. Very nice, simple and good quality mixers for the time. Far outclassed in features by this one.

[@herbalpudding]

My road mixer is an Ecler Nuo5 and my home mixer is a Rane MP2016 with a DBX 500 Subharmonic Synthesizer. It’s like the folks at Ecler are micro targeting me with this mixer.

[@jouraba]

I had the Nuo 5 and sold it two weeks later. I didn't like it because of a subtle but present background noise. I still have the Nuo 2 and will never part with it.

[@phunky_drussholland]

I miss kill switches and punch buttons! I was terrible with them but very fun. Another wicked review, the split cue is a huge miss for me. One of my regular house gigs has below par monitoring and split cue is a life saver, I spend all night mixing on IEMs. I may just diy a solution with an external small audio mixer and grab one anyway. I covet thou rotary!

[@pepedlux]

I can't say with any certainty, but I believe that the +12dB switch on the Master and Booth Outputs is a response to a major complaint about the Nuo series mixers, which was that they had a quite low master output by design. They were intended to he routed to a house mixer, and therefore kept the signal output low so as to not overdrive the mic preamps and require attenuation. If you were connecting directly to speakers however, the output was underwhelming and needed a lot of amplification. Very glad to have the option to boost output on these new models!

[@chuycalderon3268]

Lovely mixer reminds me of the 2015 from Rane but this has better ISO’s placement !

[@juicythedj750]

It's exactly what the 2015 should/could've been! Fully analog, more straight forward routing & fx implementation.

[@SonareDJ]

First thing I thought of when you were demoing the Isolator on/off switch was it could be used as a talkover. Set the Isolators accordingly and engage them when you speak.

[@stewartmacdonald601]

The DB4's filter EQ's were awesome. My favourite bit of quirk...

[@thefunkydeep446]

The subharmonic synth is amazing, so many records I have have varying bass levels, that I wish had more umph

[@andrewwatkins9273]

Still use a Ecler Hak 380 and to me its still one of the best battle scratch mixers , the scratch cue system enabling you to dail im the scratching on the crossfader in your hear phones was genius, plus the Eternal crossfader was as good as it gets for a scratch dj and a shame it only goes in a few of there mixers ....great reviews

[@nuttycommuter3718]

Having had an Ecler Nuo4.0, if I was still dj-ing I would be getting this. It looks amazing. Almost enough to make me want to go back to it!

[@nooneuno8879]

Well done Mo. I thoroughly enjoyed the review and demonstration of the Warm 4 features and audio output. This is a serious competitor for my money in the near future! Thank you and Cheers!

[@D.E.E.P.Y.]

Such a great mixer. If they are quirky then I wish they slap a filter in the next iteration 😊

[@Vinyl_Trooper]

Real dope! You said I should probably get the WARM2, I might skip, and get the WARM4. Thanks man! 🙏🏾

[@alanmodimages]

Oddest but best feature I used on a DJ Mixer was on my old Numark PPD 1950. It has an Aphex Aural Exciter. Really gave life and sparkle to older records.

[@bondi5000]

I use a an Aphex aural exciter rack format for my dj setup. It also has big bottom bass for extra fat bass. It’s an amazing bit of gear and esp useful when playing vinyl.

[@DasJav]

The Electrix line of products was pretty cool back in the day. I had the EQ Killers and loved them!

[@MyAlteredSoul]

I think putting a filter in the place of the sub synth would have been a way better use of that space. Otherwise, super excited to play on the Warm4 in the future.

[@Trynmliminatm]

Every mixer on the planet has a filter! Fuck em off.

[@pablospace]

Totally agree

[@ozoneau]

Favorite quirky mixer feature: Tascam X9 Parametric EQ dual knobs and Q settings. Would love to see a modern implementation of that feature

[@cowboyhank456]

The Freevox DJ Club actually had a similar harmonic synthesizer knob called Disco Sound. Though there's very little documentation on this and I've rarely read about experiences, I got the impression it's an excellent piece of equipment

[@mumblety96]

Excellent review Sir, thanks!! is there an external FX device that can replicate the sub-harmonic synth? They should do a Warm2 Mk II that has metal pots and the sub-harmonic synth. That would be an ideal replacement for my dearly missed Rane Empath rotary.

[@seanpumfrett6265]

Great review, why no split cue, doesn’t make any sense not having it.

[@Bronstorph1]

I’m bold enough to say I don’t really understand the tech of that feature but ordered the mixer. Any additional advice is greatly appreciated. I started with an Omnitronic rotary and love it and the sound. This is a step up for me so I don’t want to ruin my gear. Thanks fellow DJs

[@fantomejack]

Already ordering in pre ordor fantastic mixer ... thanks DJcityTV my DJ name is AcSpin I will see you regularly on your live thanks moojaxx

[@Mojaxx]

Big up! #twitchfam

[@jonathanhill1483]

Use a Peavey Kosmos Sub Harmonic Generator and it totally transforms the sound. Absolutely love it

[@mumblety96]

Very cool device - thanks!

[@nvp-music]

Totally agree. Looks like a great mixer. But as a soundengineer that works alot of festivals and clubs that bass synth is my worst nightmare.

[@Willmcgill999]

Why is that? Is it just because people might get carried away with it?

[@MAMP]

We don’t even know if this person is speaking from experience or from the arse.

[@sudeepk.6960]

I have the MasterSounds blue Radius 2 Which is perfect for my home set up but this warm 4 would be perfect for taking out

[@craxxysum1264]

I love the subharmonics, it's a bit like the A&H 42 full analog version where you could add a bit of harmonics just by turning the filter ON but not filtering the signal through, I use it all the time to ad some energy or sparkle in the mix and I kind of am really curious how will it behave when you can actually have some control over that circuit...

[@MAMP]

Yes the Xone 42 filter does this too. It’s dope :)

[@rafael_andaluz]

waiting for the RDM40 review

[@Reticuli]

Having dealt with the insides of Ecler gear before and seeing the oversights on this thing above, what we really need is an Audio Innovate AEM-400R built to very high standards.

[@MrOnesource5]

Excellent review man, thanks for that.

[@ricekrispie7138]

Think this sub bass feature is fantastic and can very useful when mixing house with 70s disco with thiner bass

[@Mojaxx]

Absolutely! That’s definitely what it’s meant for.

[@JonMurray]

Nice one, brilliant video mate. I remember the one you did on the 2, I loved it but wished it had a couple more channels! Sounds superb and personally I think it’s absolutely stunning. First class build quality, love the features, want one. You can’t afford not to buy one at that price too. I mean, I can’t afford to buy one at the moment, but it’s extremely well priced!

[@nicholassteinepreis4429]

Awesome review. I'm thinking of transitioning into the rotary mixer market. I've played around with one before and think it's super fun nailing those long mixes. I've been tempted by a Xone 92. Wondering what your thoughts are. I am very much a home dj and enjoy the smoother longer mixes without any fancy effects or play around. Would love some expert opinions from people in the comments, you all sound extremely knowledgeable. Cheers

[@make725daily1]

Your tenacity is inspiring! 💪 -- "Don't watch the clock; do what it does.. Keep going.."

[@mjdub]

That subharmonic synth 🤯

[@distantcomets]

Beautiful mixer in terms of looks and sound, but that subharmonic synth idea takes it to the moon...

[@nt_demon_au9250]

Well after watching dozens of 4 channel mixer videos you have me sold Mojaxx time to order a Warm 4

[@ripsniff9742]

One send per channel. That's awesome

[@QRS365]

mojax i think is one of the best guys who review product. for me, 2 good DJ product reviewers are mojax & DJ digital tips. btw,,,, can this mixer work with djpro software?

[@audiospanner7868]

Great review, excellent explanation of the sub harmonic feature. I’ve had a vestax PMC-37pro for 15+ years and I love it but it’s starting to feel old particularly the pots. I’m struggling to see what is the new equivalent. I’d like 3 phono inputs plus mic, assignable send/return and adjustable (not selectable) crossover curve. Any suggestions appreciated. I can’t afford a master sound Valve 4!

[@roncoo6679]

Once again bro great review thanks. As a longtime fan. If you don't mind me asking how did you lose all that weight.

[@Mojaxx]

Keto diet and (later) lots of exercise!

[@djalexgee]

Good job Mo

[@timmydiesel]

Awesome video, waiting for mine to arrive in the next couple weeks! How can I check to make sure my Yamaha 8-inch speakers OK for subharmonic synth usage? Don’t want to damage anything. Thanks a bunch, one new subscriber after this video!

[@yamaforever]

Lovely mixer.

[@Judasz696]

Direct outs for all channels would be super handy.

[@AuftragSound]

One of these guys who installs or specs mixers in big venues. I would never use the Warm 4. The subharmonic synth has definitely a place with Disco and early NY Garage and, to an extent, even with early House Music. But with everything modern, read as sub heavy, DJs will slowly cook the drivers without realising it. Will soon do a video about it. Great feature for those "world music rare groove folks" not so much for anyone else. 🙂

[@moket123]

Would big venues not have limiters / some kind of system in place anyway to protect the sound system?

[@AuftragSound]

@@moket123 yes they have, but it is like a rev limiter in a car. If you drive your car constantly in the rev limiter it will break. Two types of damage can occur driving a speaker too hard, and too much short-term power will result in torn drivers. The other is too much heat because too much power over a long period of time. This will cook the driver and the voice coil will melt. If you want to produce a lot more very low bass, the system has to work a lot harder, up to 10 times more electrical power is needed. Even with the proper limiters in place, chances are super high that DJs will blow drivers. All that is even worse on horn-loaded sound systems.

[@moket123]

@@AuftragSound very interesting and well explained. Thanks

[@AuftragSound]

@@moket123 no worries. Love to talk about audio.

[@HouseMusicDefined]

I’ve worked over the years in various area’s of event production. I also have a friend who’s dad worked with the wall of sound Phil Specter. Installed sound into Electric Lady Studios. He was also one of several sound engineers for Grateful Dead. I also was in Nyc clubs in the early 90’s with sound guys who were assistants to Alex Rosner and Richard Long. So from that standpoint A proper sound system is running at no more than 30% capacity. That is what the original club installs were set to. That means even the most extreme spikes, 4 pole 24db filters and any sub-harmonic effect has plenty of headroom. If you are not into that level of discipline, Stay away. If you understand that, you have entered the masterclass level.

[@frederikjacob1985]

I think that my trusty old Omnitric trm 202 mk2 has to find a new home. I really want one! It's this one or the mastersounds radius 4v mk2 for me...

[@martinzen]

Fantastic review, maybe your best to date!

[@LucaSchiavoni79]

Thanks so much Mojaxx! Wondering if you have a view on how this Warm 4 compares with the first version of the MS Radius 4 V? That's the one I have at the moment, which is great - although the layout of the Warm 4 looks appealing and I really like Ecler... Thanks

[@alexholding46]

I remember them Newmark mixers that's going back a bit now

[@nvp-music]

An interesting comparison would be the TAULA 4 MR from can electric. Its basically the same but without the bass synth within the same price range.

[@juicythedj750]

I love my Taula 4 (the original with 2 band eq), but the Ecler has a lot going for it! - Standard size like the Pioneer DJM, Xone:96 - Full kill channel EQ's (so basically they're subtle isolators too) - More versatile metering system - That subharmonic synth!! - Better IO, especially the mic inputs, phono preamp on every channel (Taula's channel 4 is line level only) - Fx send pre/post switch - Built-in power supply (the Taula has a bulky external AC adapter)

[@umbertogiannini]

really good review, 1 quick question, you mentioned an effects unit during the review, what effects unit are you using?

[@djsubculture2111]

Seems like the "sub harmonic" is a feature for vinyl DJs.

[@djtouchdown]

As always very good review! Will this send/return loop work with RMX 1000 as an insert effector without any "feedback” problems that I get on the 92/96 if u try to use the s/r pr without the master insert.

[@Mojaxx]

Nope. You will always need a master insert (or an insert style FX loop) for the RMX. That’s why I sold my RMX years ago, and still use the ancient EFX-500 instead. The RMX just doesn’t work with enough mixers!

[@djtouchdown]

Thank you for the answer! I was afraid of that. I have had mine 2 RMX for over 10 year now. I use one for each player to work around this. Or just on the master insert on our 96 in the studio. Hope Pioneer release a new RMX generation soon we’re we can choose.

[@JustinAzeiMusic]

​@@Mojaxxwhat thats mean? I have rmx 1000 and xone 92 but i dont understand. Blue effect doesnt work, else work but sometimes generate so big noise and kinda strange work.

[@adamcrafts3645]

That Subharmonic synth is a bit special. Would be so so dope for sampling

[@djbobrokk723]

Heya! ..just from tiny 'Blue Monday' music excerpts here and in your MS4Vmk2 review it seem Warm4 bass freq are more tight and sturdy, similar to straight powerful Xone 96 (monster) ones.. could be? question: which FX delay do you play with, it's 'in time' without any tapping :)

[@DanielleKingdjdinosaur]

iit would be nice to have the synth feature on other mixers,

[@Mythinpaperwings]

Love using Subharmonic synths, have one in my PA to help fill in the lows, they are really an awesome tool to dial in the sound... not sure if it belongs on a DJ mixer tho, at least one that can be adjusted. I've always wondered if Pioneer has a sub harmonic synth in the V10 to give it the extra low in punch it seems to have...?

[@arend3669]

V10 doesn't have one as far as I know

[@Mythinpaperwings]

I guess I meant deep inside the processing that pioneer doesn’t tell us an about. My V10 just has extra low end I don’t find in my other mixers (iso420, mp2015, ms radius). Warm 4 looks good tho 👍👍

[@PAVEL--JAKL]

Nice mixer..👌

[@ACCOUNTANTB]

best analog mixer i ever used in my life is Stanton VRM-10 with valves

[@make725daily1]

This video is a hidden treasure I've been longing to find! Subscribed, and I'm already inspired! -- "Value the journey; it molds you into something extraordinary.."

[@coleberggren1346]

This is a killer.... Any idea when this will be on the commercial market? I can't find it as being sold anywhere...

[@aounms]

Summer 2024 😉

[@bondi5000]

If any one watching this likes the idea of the harmonic synth feature then do yourselves a favour and hunt down a now deleted Aphex Aural Exciter and Big Bottom rack - without doubt my favourite piece of dj add on gear. It uses same harmonic frequency fill ins for thicker fatter bass but also for the high end frequencies - adding a glorious sparkle for those tracks needing it (think dulled / poorly produced vinyl etc). In fact the tech was first used by Fleetwood Mac back in the 70s to add sparkle to tapes that were being worn out during studio recordings.

[@albinekb]

Which model do you recommend Of the Aphex and Bottom rack?

[@danwild2672]

Strange with the isolator on off. Would be much better to be able to use it as a performance tool.

[@TheSubziMr]

I had a Xone DB2 for a while which also had a sub harmonic add thing. On old records it sounded really nice used sparsely. But I really didn't like the overall menu structure and way of handeling effects. Great sound though.

[@djthatguysmitty]

I always thought the way the filter was designed on my A&H Xone 32 was quirky. It sounded great…but, it has a slider instead of a rotary for the filter cutoff as well as a syncable LFO w/tap tempo, and transmutate buttons for the crossfader. Awesome 3 channel mixer though. I recently converted it into a rotary.

[@slaterbreaker]

When you say the unity is at 3.... What do you mean by that? I've had my mp2015 for 4 years and have used it for hundred of hours and have always been running the channels at around full once the blend is complete....

[@LucaSchiavoni79]

Thanks for raising this - I was going to comment about it. Most rotary mixers have a "sweet spot" where you have to land with the volume of each channel, called "unity gain" (i.e. where input equals output). The thing is, these mixers don't have a gain pot so you need to reach this unity gain point on the main pot of a channel. For most rotaries, this is indeed around 3PM or 7-8/10. However, this Warm 4 mixer (like the Mastersounds Radius 4 Valve) has gain pots on each channel. Mastersounds explicitly says you just set the gain and then turn the main channel pot to the max. I expect it to be the same for this mixer too. So essentially you treat each channel like those of a linear faders mixer - set the gain and then turn the fader up to the max. I hope this makes sense - I think I've explained it in a somewhat convoluted way! Oh - and thanks @Mojaxx for another great review. Who knows I might take the plunge on this now :)

[@slaterbreaker]

@@LucaSchiavoni79 okay yes I understand, thank you! The mp2015 has gains for each channel so I set them when I load a track

[@phononerd6947]

There's a fair bit of ringing on the sub filter tho.

[@danield_sounds]

I miss the vu meter per channel on the warm2 😢

[@juicythedj750]

Any idea what's the curve on the channel volume potentiometers? I've heard mixed comments about the curves on the 2 channel version. I'd prefer an exponential curve like on the DJR, Condesa...

[@ripsniff9742]

This is a good mixer.

[@Simjeon]

Ecler Warm 4 vs. Omnitronic TRM 422? 🤔 and the new Headliner R4 😅

[@dogwalk3]

the delayed iso button, i think, wouldn't be an issue if you can get a feel of the timing & plan micro-ahead accordingly. this is pretty sweet as a whole! been looking to go rotary for a while to replace my xone 43 & i might try to pick this up. thanks as always 🙏 edit: i ended up getting a union audio orbit 4! truly loving it, but still wish i could try this.

[@ripsniff9742]

It sounds nice.

[@Judasz696]

Pitty no master insert for external master effects

[@alanmodimages]

I noticed that too. Otherwise it would have been a perfect swap out for my Xone.

[@florian9220]

Soo: EQs dont change the phase when there in their default position while isolators do. I think that is the reason why they did not put an switsch to the EQs. Edit: It apears that the channel EQs are acutally Channel Isoltaers wich then change the phase...

[@ripsniff9742]

How useful is the subharmonic synth? Just one aux right?

[@gwsound]

Sound wise how would it compare with the play differently mixer?

[@NYCDJQuixotic]

How is the summing compared to the Henderson and Resor ?

[@JustinAzeiMusic]

But EQ switches doesnt kill sound to 0. Only then you touch bellow big buttons on isolator i gues. Only then bass gets killed to 0. I dont understand who i would play with it? Is it gets like 4 eq? Like with xone? I love xone and im afraid to to change to 3 buttons eq.

[@fredbissnette3104]

That's a beast

[@JYMBO]

3 rotary mixer videos in a month???

[@Mojaxx]

It’s rotary season (apparently)!

[@frederikjacob1985]

​@@Mojaxxi'm happy about that thow 😉

[@ItsWesSmithYo]

Just wait until all the motorized platters start coming…I love them too ;)

[@MrZiadT]

Hi. What isolator is better , this or the one on the mastersounds?

[@djzest74]

Knobs have still the problem, that they reflect in the lights in the Club and its a problem to have a Quick overview. I even wrote eclerdj, asking for alternative knobs ... there are none...

[@thabodlamini495]

would this be an upgrade or downgrade from an allen and heath xone 96?🤔

[@itimmy101]

That isolator sound like it has a slight delay! Is the mixer full anolog or both digital & anolog?

[@Mojaxx]

The isolator on/off switch has a delay (by design) but not the isolator itself. The mixer is fully analogue.

[@itimmy101]

@@Mojaxx i see, thnk mojaxx!😃👍

[@lucid272]

When will there finally be a dj controller with rotarys ?

[@aounms]

Must have 0 latency for that 😉

[@TheDjtricks]

❤

[@jonathanherrera6862]

Those Apex mixers had "quirky" efx on them.

[@umbertogiannini]

apologies, you did say efx 500.

[@emmanueljoya]

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@geraldivonnet9583]

So I didn't see a high/low pass filter on this. Did I miss something?

[@VoyageOne1]

The Subharmonic synthesizer feels like a gimmick. I usually run my gear to a seperate PA mixer and feed subs via an aux send.

[@Simjeon]

Can somebody please tell me what's that blue monday remix? :)

[@Mojaxx]

It's a cover version by Safety First, released on DJcity Records.

[@suni304]

Hi Moojaxx! First of all, thank you for the great review and the great work you have done. My question is: do you feel that the pots / knobs are a loose? like loose potentiometers? or are they firmly secure and stable? It´s because I have read and seen videos of some Warm2 owners "complaining" about that issue. Here´s a YT link to explain better: kzbin.infoQ3L_2rqLW-g?si=Gbepm-Pgh-cIolNM Thank you. Cheers!

[@joebloggs1583]

Nice😎👍

[@djLovelyTime]

Only one S/R circuit. Such a shame.