ECOBOOST WETBELT REPLACEMENT AT ONLY 37K MILES BUT DUE ON AGE... IS IT REALLY WORTH TAKING THE RISK?

[@Finglesham]

You make it look so easy! I cannot accept that a £2 K maintenance job is acceptable even every ten years. I have a 150 TDCi Focus so in two years will need a new rubber band even though my mileage is 45K from new. Keep these vids coming.

[@andybt3989]

Neighbour is a driving instructor and has had 4 ecoboost engined cars. They’re very high mileage when he changes and he’s never had a problem! Well serviced!

[@David-fj5lz]

The next owner will have to do this then add this to the buying cost like an new battery in an EV

[@davidlewis4399]

@David-fj5lz What the 12 V battery or the HV battery ?

[@tonyc2837]

@David-fj5lzNowhere near the cost of a new battery in a EV car.🤦‍♂️😂

[@malcolmstarkey1062]

I had a 62 plate covered 65,000 miles serviced every year including an engine flush got rid in 2019.

[@andybt3989]

@@malcolmstarkey1062 you’re not supposed to flush them!

[@scotspie501douglas7]

as always just back in from meal with my sons birthday meal my wife is downstairs watching downtown abbey on catch up and i,m watching you up stairs what a life with a beer loving your content......lol

[@JohnPilka]

Bought our 12 year old eco-boom this year on 26K - immediately had the wetbelt done!!

[@georgegalyer8224]

Changed wetbelts on wife's 2015 fiesta last Feb. Had only done about 45k but it was 9 then so preventative rather than wait for a failure. Always serviced properly with right oil etc and when it came apart. I was impressed how clean it all looked inside!

[@yamfz6]

Nice vid and enjoying the channel.. Why no chain conversions for WB engines yet? 🎯

[@jaheengerauto]

love your videos great work im in the trade myself i think you do a fantastic job my friend keep it up

[@stevemainwaring7598]

Wow Baz a lot work to change those belts, i mean who ever thought of those wet belts? when we have always been told oil and belts do not mix? like the little music overlay 😄keep warm lad.

[@blrh9463]

Great vid baz, My 1.0L fiesta ecoboost went timing belt snapped after 10 years and cost me £1900 for a new block and rebuild.

[@sthillarys52]

Great job Baz as usual in decidedly chilly conditions, my fingers would have been numb within minutes 😂.

[@mrautoservices7354]

Amazing work as always baz

[@bazmeredith]

Cheers pal 🤙

[@MarzNet256]

Conceptually, I take issue with a required service costing as much as a major repair. My engine has a timing chain and has over 227,000 miles, now that makes sense to me.

[@TomF1-25]

I've got a little 1.4 crdi and she is on 178,000 miles so far, I'm hoping to get 200k out of her

[@Mk2GolfNut]

I agree. Just did the timing chain recently on my sprinter at 400k miles as it was getting a bit rattly. Lucky I caught it just in time as a few of the teeth on the camshaft sprockets were "pointless". I'm seriously impressed with the OM651 2.2 engine in this van.

[@TomF1-25]

@@Mk2GolfNut I used to work on fleet vehicles and we regularly had sprinters come in with 500k on the clock, highest I saw was one with 545k but others said they had seen higher than that before.

[@leeroysilk]

@@Mk2GolfNut - My 05 313 Sprinter hasn't quite hit 100k. Like a new van... :)

[@peterarries7879]

Top job as usual Baz 👏🏿 👌

[@tomcurran65]

Nice to see one of these again Baz!

[@derekgb3780]

Glad to hear you have a proper lunch - pasty and hot chocolate and not something like a salad and green tea! 🙂

[@PAL01823]

The wife’s is a 2015, done about 45,000miles, it’s getting done next week by our local Ford dealer.

[@andrewmooreandrewrmoore7615]

I know that's a wet belt but it set my teeth on edge when you lubed the belt up! Nice clean engine and underside on the car though.

[@Doctor00-786]

Cracking job as usual Baz and have a good weekend mate.

[@bazmeredith]

@@Doctor00-786 cheers buddy 🤙

[@stuartelliott1933]

It would be interesting to know what the service record was like as I’m guessing the car has been looked after and the correct oil used. From memory Ford originally had a much longer replacement time for the belt and it’s use of the wrong oil the degrades the rubber and blocks the pickup.

[@stephenk0nig252]

You have to use Ford Castrol 05W20. Other oils have additives that degrade the belt.

[@markaddy53]

great job again lad keep up the great work

[@thornscoop2]

My son recently bought a low milage Fiesta 2016 with 13500 miles on. Very little belt debris on the latest oil change, this gives me confidence it should be ok fingers crossed!

[@japfourme381]

Get it changed, it’s not worth the risk!!

[@Mk2GolfNut]

Keep up the oil changes with the proper oil. Even if you change it every 5K it still cheaper than doing this Job over the lifetime of the car. As the engine oil gets old, it smells more and more like petrol and fumes. It's a well known fact that petrol degrades rubber. In my opinion, this is probably the main contributing factor of why these belts degrade so much. Even the recommended service schedule is probably too long as the manufacturer doesn't want your car to last forever!

[@YZJB]

Change the belt

[@stephenreed1080]

You don't really get it in the oil as its all been sucked up and stuck on the oil pick up.

[@GrahamNewman-mq7gr]

I will GUARANTEE the belt ha degraded. You do not see the debri it get sucked into the oil pump strainer. Not only the CAM DRIVE WET BELT, THE OIL PUMP HAS A WET BELT to drive it. You must change both. £1000/ 1500 job. This man has done the job correctly.Apaling design why belt makers went along with this stupidity .Now FORD have gone back to Chain. Oil pump still belt !!.

[@thomascoyne157]

Great video liken the cover protector would be one for fiesta 👍👍👍👍👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🙋‍♂️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@ronaldroberts9556]

As usual a top job? What is a ballpark cost of this job. We have a 17plate Fiesta which needs one! Diolch o galon👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@neilmunro8622]

Just done a cylinder head job on the 2ltr transit wet belt was poor at starting up warm or cold but ran ok once running. It's cracked the head gasket between cylinder 1/2 the joys mate heh 👌🏻👨🏼‍🔧

[@oceandrive7283]

Just goes to show, if you have a well looked after car, that is serviced at least yearly, using the correct grade oil, then it doesn't have to be another internet horror show!!

[@S35CANAVERAL]

True, half the world seems to hate these engines, I serviced mine regularly and after 10 years my pickup tube looked exactly as in the video, so my personal experience is : great engine!

[@michaelc6325]

Yea my 2015 eco boost is still going strong over 100000 thousand miles covered no issues at all

[@kerbsidemobilemechanic]

You got a part number for the cardboard bolt holder pal? Good bit of kit that

[@bazmeredith]

@@kerbsidemobilemechanic Box.it.pack.it 5 x small cardboard mailing packaging boxes - Size 6x4x4", Brown,one size amzn.eu/d/aRAUoTW One better, there's the link you know me I don't like to keep the good stuff to myself 🤙🤙

[@kerbsidemobilemechanic]

@@bazmeredithlegend, any discount codes available?

[@jussih1147]

Perfect Job again 🤙🏻👌🏻

[@fill7t1]

Love the cars face mask! Bet you can do these in your sleep!

[@bazmeredith]

It's bad when you know ever single torque settings 😂😂😂

[@StevenWalker-y8v]

Life has become scary. (Like having to put our "real life" data into almost every website to get stuff.) Now I am looking at bits of engines which I would think you'd really rather not expose to the daylight, but rather leave "sealed from the factory" - cranks, cams, all the very bones - not that I'd think you'd drop a chunk o' pasty in there . . . but heavens it makes me a bit wobbly at the very thought. Oh well. Price of progress I suppose.

[@laser4398]

A great engine but very sensitive to correct maintenance. If you want a Fiesta that you can abuse then buy one with the old 4 cylinder engine. However if you want an economical, but powerful car with great handling because the engine is light then buy an eco boost 123hp. A warm hatch that can do over 50mpg and 0-60 in less than 10secs. It does need good maintenance though. Oil changes more than once a year and it has to be exactly the correct oil, and change it at intervals less than the handbook 10,000 miles. It's a complicated engine and the cam belt has to be changed at 10 years or less. My 2013, 135,000 mile Fiesta does 52 mpg on the motorway and yet I have a power to weight ratio of well over a 100 bhp per ton. On any other engine I'd be needing a third dry belt, as it is I've only recently fitted a replacement belt. The cost would be equivalent but I've got probably another 10 years before I need to bother again.

[@YZJB]

On Ford’s engines with dry belts, the interval is 10 years/240,000km. You wouldn’t be on your third belt.

[@Mk2GolfNut]

Cornish pasty is my absolute favorite 😋

[@richie674]

That’s the original belt as it has a 15 at the start of the long number just to the left of the Ford emblem , mine had a 14 at the start as it’s a 2014 & now it’s a 22 replaced in 2022 , 18mm from a 16mm also pump belt had a 14 on it now it’s a 21 also replaced in 2022 at same time 👍🤙

[@wackey3455]

nice one and i like your music

[@bazmeredith]

Cheers buddy 🤙

[@Calos-o3k]

Great video

[@Pete-in-Essex]

Good stuff as usual..

[@Jack_JJS]

Great video Baz 🤙

[@bazmeredith]

Cheers buddy 🤙

[@oj4249]

Goals bro. Wish I could be on your level one day with how seamless you do your job 🔥. I know you don’t do “how to” videos but if possible can you do a video on how to change coolant on a car that has a surge tank and no radiator cap. Like how to bleed the system after changing coolant. Maybe you can just answer my question alternatively lol 😅. I have a 2011 Chevrolet Aveo 1.6. I’m wanna change coolant but unsure how to bleed system after changing the coolant. T.i.a

[@volt8684]

My neighbour been advised by mechanic fiesta 10 yrs old 79k don’t do belt - if goes scrap it. Better than spending 2k.

[@bazmeredith]

Good mechanic he is, sounds like he just wants to fit brake pads all day

[@johnrscossy]

I do it in a day 250 plus 250 parts Who charges 2000?

[@Burntsmell]

Great content and well explained as always. Would definitely drive the distance from down south to change the belt with you when it's time ⏲️

[@brandywell44]

I was shocked at how slack the oil pump drive belt is yet that must be how they are supposed to be.

[@bazmeredith]

At the end where I spin it??? They meant to be like that until you torque the crank bolt up, then it goes tight

[@brandywell44]

@@bazmeredith Aah, I understand now. Thankyou Baz

[@Ro32da72]

On these low-milers, is there any benefit in looking at the oil pick-up as an indication of the belt condition, before pulling the engine apart? Do the belts just break randomly, or do they always shed bits into the oil first? 1250 4-pot ftw! 🤪

[@larryrichmond8929]

So hope my mechanic can sort out my bus I left with him, fired up this morning, but when I turned off, engine continued to run, even took the key out. had to put it into 4th gear and stall.to kill the engine. What's that all about?

[@bazmeredith]

Could be anything, poor ignition switch ??

[@finchywasere]

Hello, I recently bought a ford focus ecoboost 1.0, it had a new engine fitted at 70k miles, i bought the car when it was at 109.500k, it also had a new service just before sale, I've clocked the milage to 110.500k, how many more miles until I should look at getting the wet belt replaced. One garage advised getting it replaced after another 10k

[@bazmeredith]

I wouldn't like to say buddy if you unsure get it replaced or ask the garage who fitted the engine

[@brianholland8290]

I own a 2017 nissan quashqai 1.5dci just done 40000 mls do you think the belt needs changing baz or would you wait until the recomended 60000mls ?

[@bazmeredith]

Any doubt change it, I wouldn't like to say yes or no

[@brianholland8290]

Ok baz thanks for the reply keep up the good work love watching your videos you make it look so easy and its nothing but easy all the best wish i lived closer you would have my custom 👍👌

[@bazmeredith]

@brianholland8290 cheers buddy appreciate it, I'd love to say yes it will be fine or not won't, it is always advisable to get them done early

[@straightup1234]

Hi baz understand cam shafts & crank, flywheel needs locking with correct tools, is there any marks on the cam shaft pullys & crank shaft pully like some other cars dont want to be 180° out or will locking tools only lock one way?

[@bazmeredith]

Locking tools will only fit one way buddy

[@straightup1234]

@bazmeredith Great thanks , great videos & advice 👍

[@xxl531]

Did a wetbelt tuesday the car had 24000 kilometers on it pick up was not spotless and belt had cracks 😮 strange engines , i think they had the wrong oil in it? What you think mate ?

[@bazmeredith]

If it's the original belt it's done well, and could be

[@Lawrencebrunt]

I had the wet belts changed on my 10 years old Focus last month. Car is serviced every year and only done 21500 miles. Old belts were still like new. I think a lotvof issues are down to lack of maintenance and wrong oil

[@stevewaghorn2029]

I feel sorry for the 1st car buyers, there are very few "cheap" to run cars left. ...

[@Mk2GolfNut]

My sister owns a 2015 Fiat 500 1.2 8v. She had it since new and it's just touched 100k. I did the cam belt at 60k and a service every 10k. It had a clutch at 80k (she cooked it lol) but nothing special and easy to do aside from having to remove the front bumper!? Other than the door handles being fragile, this car has wanted for nothing else. Super easy to work on, super cheap for parts and economical. I would recommend these cars to anyone.

[@joeykil92]

Still plenty of choice mate. Second hand they can go for Skoda fabia, seat Ibiza, VW polo,Hyundai i10/i20, Toyota aygo etc. Brand new they can go for any of the PSA group 1.2’s or Ford eco boosts as the wet belts won’t be a problem in the warranty period. For a new driver I’d recommend one of the VAG small cars with the 3 cylinder 1.0tsi great little engine IMO.

[@Ro32da72]

You're right, pretty much any modern car can have an expensive repair just round the corner, especially if you can't fix it yourself. My recommendation (because I own one...) would be a mk7 Fiesta with the 1.25 lump. Simple, reliable and easy to repair.

[@jeremylister89]

So, 37k and 10 years, so that's an oil change every 3,700 miles assuming servicing once a year. Interesting. Baz, do you think even slight eccentricity in the cam gears or another gear could cause unwanted vibration and start wet belt degradation? Wish you were nearby, I've 2016 C-Max at 66k

[@bazmeredith]

@@jeremylister89 you could do 2500 miles a year but never get the engine hot enough... Short trips can ruin oil... Any wear in any pulley or gear can cause premature wear on any belt wet or dry....

[@jeremylister89]

​@@bazmeredith I was thinking eccentricity due to a factory or subcontractor quality control issue. Honda had this problem with some CBX550 cam gears in the 1980's. Yo Yo gears!😁

[@-DC-]

VW amongst others actually design in eccentric cam drive pulleys in some applications.

[@hamzaesmail5229]

Would you recommend getting the water pump changed with this too?

[@YZJB]

@@-DC-yep, and the EcoBoost is the same! They’re eccentric by design

[@derekdavies4885]

Have a ford focus 1.0 eco boost, its a 2015 and has only done 19000 . Currently looking around Mold area for garage that can do the wet belt , any suggestions ?

[@Davidlongstreet]

What could i be expected to pay to have my camchain etc replaced in my AUDI A5 2010 2.0T SPORTBACK.

[@seanm9109]

Great job, excellent description Baz. Has ford scrapped the wet belt in the new models

[@bazmeredith]

@@seanm9109 yes and no, they use a timing chain, but oil pump is still driven by a rubber belt, and they fail

[@seanm9109]

@@bazmeredith 👍 same old crap so

[@ANDY-we7mr]

OMG ALL THAT CARRY ON 😳 JUST TO CHANGE A CAMBELT OR WETBELT CARNT YOU DROP THE SIDE COVER OFF AND LEAVE THE BOTTOM ONE ON 😊

[@davidlewis4399]

Thats why they started using chains again VAG junk is every 5 years unreal.

[@YZJB]

No, because you can’t change the oil pump belt or clean the pickup with the sump on

[@stephenreed1080]

​@YZJByou can change the belt by leaving the sump on. Can also check the pick up buy dumping the oil and putting a camera up the sump plug hole

[@Gneeznow]

I had the timing belt fail in an old Renault Megane years ago, not because of the mileage but because the belt was ancient and had rotted away over time, I think it had about 40k on it but it was 11 years old

[@Philunited]

2018 Dacia Sandro starter motor replacement anyone done one before right at front off engine

[@trevorwenham6179]

How long do these take you now?

[@colinblythe3710]

Could I ask - How long does this job take in real life ?? thanks

[@steveharrod6911]

the peugeot design is the more preferable it would seem as you dont need to remove the front timing cover?

[@bazmeredith]

@@steveharrod6911 PSA are a much better design

[@steveharrod6911]

@@bazmeredith would be very interesting to see one of the new chain conversion kits fitted

[@-DC-]

Ford Engine was never designed with the expectation the belt would have to be changed in service is why​@@bazmeredith

[@bazasulli4975]

How much do you generally charge for the wet belt replacement Baz. My fiesta needs one but local I've been quoted between eleven hundred to fifteen hundred. I dont mind traveling if it means being cheaper.

[@bazmeredith]

That's about right tbh

[@ashercohen4739]

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[@COLLSWORK]

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[@MartinVeen]

Hi Baz, great to see this video. At kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppu8gaGVebprq9k, you show us the sealant on the timing cover, but am I missing sealant around the two holes where the special bolts are fitted? I thought you applied it in previous videos.

[@MartinVeen]

In this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnqkiqZ3ZZt-eJI, the mechanic does it the way you did in the past. Is it necessary, or does it not make a difference?

[@bazmeredith]

My bad I did put sealant on the two holes I just missed it out on the video... They do need sealant 100%

[@iandalton3839]

It's not so much the timing belt, but the oil pump belt that causes problems on these engines. Why on earth they opted for this stupid design is beyond me. There is a chain conversion for the timing, but you keep the wet oill pump drive belt, which leaves it a smoking gun. Idiotic design.

[@greggbutler9344]

Great job baz , shite engine ❤

[@davidlewis4399]

My wifes vw Polo had a shite engine turbo went after 4 years and 26K miles FSH, every Fors I have owned better than her VW shitboxes.

[@alanoliver2197]

Mosst owners do between 8-9000 miles so every 10 years would be right better safe than sorry

[@hamzaesmail5229]

Would you recommend getting your water pump changed at the same time @baz meredith

[@bazmeredith]

It doesn't need doing but it's best practice