EcoFlow Delta 3 Plus - How Did This Happen?

[@TheSolarLab]

🛒 EcoFlow Delta 3 Plus: • Shop Solar: shopsolarkits.... • Use Code: THESOLARLAB25 for $25 Off Your Order • EcoFlow: shrsl.com/4pv5a • Use Code: THESOLARLAB05 for 5% Off Your Order 🛒 We Also Recommend Shopping at: • Signature Solar: signaturesolar... • Use Code: THESOLARLAB50 for $50 Off Your Order ☀️Get a Free Solar Estimate for Your Home: www.solar-esti... 🔔 Subscribe to our KZbin Channel: @TheSolarLab 0:00 - Intro 1:20 - Spec Teardown 1:30 - 2 Minute Spec Teardown 3:41 - Testing 7:28 - What We Like 10:04 - What We Don't Like... 12:40 - Summary The EcoFlow Delta 3 Plus is a new portable power station that EcoFlow just released. We were super excited to get this thing, and it performed really well. However, there was one big thing that we didn't like about this unit and we hope that EcoFlow addresses it ASAP. Regardless, we think the unit is a great option for either portable power or emergency back up situations. ⚡️ FOLLOW US:  / thesolarlab  / thesolarlab 👨🏼‍💻 The Solar Lab: www.thesolarla... We maintain an affiliate relationship with some of the products reviewed, which means we get a small percentage of a sale if you click our links, at no cost to our viewers.

[@danieltimisan6820]

it’s crazy that from all the hundreds of youtubers who got these units for free to fake review them …you are the only one to point this problem

[@bigtom4709]

That's why I trust him. 👍🏽

[@turner02]

they are all fake. this vid is fake as well.

[@earpig]

@@turner02everything really is

[@sk6056]

I'm w/ you. Really made me lose faith in several of those youtubers (for me, seeing J.R. bought and paid for was especially painful). And most of the youtube's also go on about the useless App. AND these guys talk frankly about Ecoflow's having almost predatory pricing on their solar panels.

[@riakata]

The unit is probably broken not a systemic problem it seems like the pwm fan control is backwards somehow.

[@eldorripu]

bro please just get a headlamp these things dont need lights on them.

[@pingmeep]

No if it's portable a light is not an unreasonable ask and he only gives it a bonus point for having one anyways. I just got a smaller Anker Solix DC to charge phones at 140 watts and the light was the deciding factor. Let there be light even a small one!

[@0x80O0oOverfl0w]

For real, if there was a light on it then half the people would be complaining that it sucks. Who''s gonna be lugging this 115 lbs beast around anyways?

[@ThanksForTheLaugh]

@@0x80O0oOverfl0w wrong delta weight plus you didn’t watch video obviously

[@mr.c6674]

​@@ThanksForTheLaugh, yep. Wrong unit, BUT, people would complain like they always do even if it included the stupid light he always complains about

[@mr.c6674]

Agreed!

[@Locke99GS]

About the dual solar inputs that you can't understand, consider that not everybody has the space or means or desire to combine all their solar panels into one mega array. Some people have panels that can't combine without risking damage to them. Some people might have one array on one side and another one with different voltages on another side to catch sun at different angles. Maybe somebody is using one port for solar, and the other port for a 12v car power to xt60 to charge their battery. Maybe one port they're using for solar, and the other port their have connected to a micro hydro generator. Maybe they've connected a small generator to a stationary bike or treadmill and they're using that to exercise while filling their battery with one port, and the other for some other source. There are so many reasons somebody may want dual solar inputs. The X-Boost "fake news" stuff is really just you not understanding that other people do different things than you do. Not everybody needs to use their battery to charge laptops and phones and stuff. Some people use this to run well and sump pumps during emergencies, or run power tools out on a job site or when they just don't want to run cables across their yard while building a shed or whatever. Some people might want to power an hot plate while simultaneously making coffee while camping. If you don't want to use the features, then don't use them. But that doesn't mean other people won't find those features incredibly useful. Don't be so simple minded.

[@derrickboatman1560]

I would find chastising the only person that I've seen point out a serious problem with the device. Simple minded. You are right. But there's a wrong way to be right.

[@Locke99GS]

@@derrickboatman1560 I'm not sure what him rightfully pointing out an overheating issue has to do with him also being too simple to understand that some people use features of this device in ways that he can't comprehend.

[@michaelmorrison5280]

Yup. Dual input suits my needs more than a single input of identical wattage would. I live near many exceptionally large pine trees and sun is spotty in the mornings/evenings/winter. A single large array would produce less for me than multiple smaller arrays due to shading. If I lived somewhere else with the space and sunlight to set up a 1000-1200 watt array, the single port would be more convenient. The dual inputs is part of what sold me on Ecoflow compared to the other competing brands.

[@nathancampbell516]

As much as I miss seeing you work on your cars and fabricating some of the nicest cars on KZbin, I have found that I just enjoy watching you doing my whatever you do! I love solar and I love learning all of the small nitty gritty details from you! Happy to see you, and stay committed🫶🏻‼️

[@jakeviolet2195]

The main thing I don't like about this unit is the 40w parasitic draw on the inverter. Several reviewers have tried to dismiss this as standard for that size inverter, but it's not! The Bluetti AC200L 2400w inverter uses 13.5w and the Pecron E3600 3,600w inverter only uses 30w. 40 watts is very high for an 1,800 watt inverter. And paired with the smallish 1kwh battery, it's gonna use up a lot of power on nothing. If you turn on the AC inverter (with nothing plugged in) and leave it 24 hours, it will drain nearly the entire battery.

[@paulywalnuts6042]

whats the normal delta 2's parastic draw at?

[@budmartin3344]

I wish All the Power station makers would publish the parasitic power draw of the inverter. i had to Email Bluetti to find out the value for the AC70, it is 15W.

[@Francoisdp82]

X-boost isn't fake, it's handy for resistive loads.

[@Bobster986]

I paid $550 recently for my Delta 2 and it came with 110w solar panel and a AC/USB power strip. Plus I bought a cool bag for it for $25 on Temu 😊

[@junkerzn7312]

I've noticed overheating issues on several of my power stations and inverters, all different brands... but it seems that vendors prioritize making units quieter rather than making units robust. Heat isn't good for power electronics, even when in-spec. I far prefer that the fans be running all the time at low levels and ramp up and down slowly as needed. Cycling of fans is far more annoying than having a continuous fan. I see this issue on little car inverters, more serious inverters, and several power stations. I have an Oukitel (same OEM as FFPower) P2001 whos fan is very quiet, but doesn't run fast enough at medium loads and the unit overheats and shutsdown (doesn't happen at high loads, the fan is going full blast, but medium loads... it overheats). I have a little "300W" pure sine wave car inverter that lets its internal FETs exceed 100C (212F) before it turns on its fan, which is just plain stupid. And I have a number of WZRELB inverters whos fans aren't variable speed and cycle off and on all the time which is really annoying. I've wound up opening up all of these units and hacking the fans. Either soldering a resistor in parallel with the temperature sensor contacts (3K to 10K depending, which makes the unit think it is hotter than it is and forces it to turn its fan on sooner), or literally locating 12VDC on their circuit boards and adding a super-quiet always-on fan in addition to the existing fans... which does a good job preventing the official fans from cycling on and off. -Matt

[@kincheng]

And here’s anker quietly producing rocket engine C1000…

[@gabriellobo25]

So about the lights. I thing all the plugs should have like a halo around the plugs so you can see wear or how you are plugging in to it.

[@brandonfrancey5592]

Question! You mentioned that you can duel charge this unit with both ac power and solar at the same time which does surprise me. What I want to know is can you program the unit to use ac only under certian conditions. For example if the battery reaches 20% charge, turn on the ac to charge it back up. If over 75%, turn off ac and rely on solar only. Or after sunset, turn on ac to charge the unit or a certian time when power is cheaper?

[@johntate5284]

You can definitely hear the Delta 2 running! It is quite noisy! A good find about the quietness as virtually all the other KZbinrs only test rated power for 15 minutes and thus this problem wouldn't show up!

[@derrickboatman1560]

I like the two separate solar inputs. If you install it in a truck then you can have 500 watts of solar and the alternator hooked up for an additional 200 Watts without having to mess around with it. Having two allows it to have two separate voltages coming in.

[@shawnr771]

Thank you for the review. How long will it power a full sized refrigerator?

[@billquantrill4960]

I ordered one of these along with the alternator charger back on Oct. 1st. Got both for like $850. Hopefully they ship soon, I'm really looking forward to using it yet this year. I also recently purchased their Glacier fridge unit and can already tell its a battery killer. Lol. At 38 degrees in fridge only mode and with no ice making it will run about 34 hours.

[@bigtom4709]

Great deal. If I didn't have to wait until November, I'd have jumped on it too.

[@billquantrill4960]

@@bigtom4709 Yeah, waiting on this stuff to go on sale is not great. Lol.

[@Honcho187]

Can you connect ecoflow alternator to it

[@sk6056]

thanks for the review and thanks especially for pointing out such a key shortcoming that not a single other reviewer (mostly sponsored) has mentioned. Ecoflow's sponsored videos are making me doubt some creators, several of which I'm a long term fan (JR I'm looking at you...). Some go so far as to delete comments that ask even mild questions or maybe ask for matching (perhaps sponsored) videos for Anker or some of the other key players. I've watched the comments disappear and had a couple of mine get deleted. On channels that I thought were honest and straight-forward. Very disappointing. I'm still doubtful of Ecoflow but perhaps my previous experience w/ them is an outlier and their equipment has certainly improved over the years.

[@bigtom4709]

Dude! You've cracked my Top 3! 1. Jasonoid 2. Hobotech 3. YOU Honorable Mention Will Prowse Great Review.

[@rtsrts2317]

too bad will doesn't really do the portable reviews anymore.

[@tilu3303]

I'm with you on having a single solar port so you can run a single lineset from the panel array instead of multiple linesets making the run.

[@heiser_bill]

The fans are undoubtedly required to deal with the heat that’s generated. But they should use quality quiet fans.

[@posteroonie]

If you want LFP batteries, it's going to weigh more. This isn't an EcoFlow problem, it's the price of getting a large cycle count and a good price. The whole industry is going to LFP. I guess buyers want their power stations to have a long life more than they want them to be light. Don't hurt your backs, folks!

[@ThanksForTheLaugh]

So many negative commenters never watch the videos and makes you look foolish. 27 pounds sunshine😂

[@mofiddly]

They don't want them bursting into flames, and burning their house down either. A little extra weight is nothing compared to that.

[@ThanksForTheLaugh]

@@mofiddly Oh the drama, Please share the data on power station fires.

[@s13ef9]

I have our starlink on UPS via the river 3 and computer setup on UPS via the D3+. That way when we have power surge or short term power outages, our stream/internet stays active. For that use, these things are great!

[@s13ef9]

P.S. my computer setup draws about 450 watts and the fans are near silent the entire time I ran it for my two days of testing.

[@chip9177]

I have ordered three of these. The only item received so far is one of free bags they come with which I dont want or need. Tic Toc.....will there be a Delta 3 battery?

[@IwannaGotoGGhouse]

If you have 3 can you link them all together?

[@rtsrts2317]

@@IwannaGotoGGhouse According to hobotech, he says no. Only one unit to an expansion battery.

[@clairem3543]

Love your videos. Thank you from a busy mom that needs this.❤️

[@TheSolarLab]

Thanks for watching!

[@derrickboatman1560]

Xboost is actually useful. Think of it like this. Volts equals speed and amps equals torque. Sometimes you need more torque. Great for tools. Bad for computers

[@shelley131]

Loved the video. I appreciate you pointing out the shortcomings it has and will wait buying it. Anyway I have plenty of first generation and second generation units to keep me going while they fix this. Thank you for sharing your information.

[@stedyone1090]

Where can I get the Sirius 415 watt solar panels you mentioned in video??

[@CrustyWhiteBread]

One thing for sure I can say as an owner of an ecoflow pro and 3 of their bifacial gen 2 foldable panels, is their customer service is horrendous. Awful. Rude. Inefficient. I am also fully deaf in one ear and losing the hearing in my right and refused to provide even the most reasonable accommodations, as the ADA call for, to assist me in the myriad of issues I was having with a 2nd ecoflow pro I had acquired, was bad, had to send back and have since failed to replace.... Just terrible.

[@TheSolarLab]

Sorry to hear about your experience. This is why we sometimes recommend buying EcoFlow units from a distributor like Shop Solar. They have solid customer service & handle any warranty issues.

[@SAMMIEJONESJUNIOR]

I have a delta 2 with extra battery plus a river 2 max. I also have 2x 220 watt panels and 1x110 watt panels for about 3 years total now with good usage and i have had zero issues

[@bobp4036]

Don’t expect this anytime soon if you do purchase directly from Ecoflow. My preorder for one at the end of September stated shipping in early October. Nope. At the time of this comment it’s October 20th. The current listing for a delta 3+ on their site says preorder now for shipping in mid November. If they were meeting the previous orders I could see that getting pushed due to volume with how much they are pushing these things, but looks like we are all going to be waiting on the same shipping containers to show up.

[@johntorrence2195]

Still thinking about this one but 😮Good review other youtubers didn't say nothing about this I have the mega1 and love it

[@gelu88]

60 seconds at 2600w is pretty good. That basically let's you have a microwave and a coffee machine or fridge running simultaneously and most likely not trip. Im looking for something to supplement my ioniq 5 V2L, which trips the instant you touch 1800w. This means I don't need to step up to a big boy unit!

[@rtsrts2317]

The 2 coffee pots and microwave I own need to run for much longer than 60 sec. More like 6 mins for a full pot which the D3+ does fine. I just can't get it to power both before overload kicks in. That's with xboost on.

[@krazywabbit]

The fans come on as a show of love.

[@marcfruchtman9473]

Overall, very good review! To be honest, I prefer to have at least 2 Receptacles in the back as well. Sorry to hear about the over-heating issue. Hopefully they solve it, but, my worry is that in solving it, they possibly lose performance. Please retest soon. I disagree that having the 3 x 2 prong receptacles offers more versatility. Actually, it is LESS versatility, they SHOULD have a ground prong. And there is zero reason not to include one on ALL receptacles. If they need room, they need to add the room, or rotate the receptacles. Anyone can cover all the receptacles with a power-brick that is oversized, so that point is not really useful. Thanks for the review.

[@bigtom4709]

You read my mind. Imma need one 2-prong and one 3-prong in the front ... The rest can be in the back where you won't plug and unplug then as frequently.

[@rtsrts2317]

So buy a couple power strips and plug em in. There. You now have space for the adapters to fit.

[@bigtom4709]

@@rtsrts2317... That's one solution, but for $800 it'd be nice to "keep it neat".

[@Kievlar]

No attached lighting is a valid point, X-boost criticism is not. Yes, it's marketing but they are very clear with the intent of the feature. Heating is a major issue indeed. I'm waiting for the Delta 3 Max if there is in the future for the 2kWH native capacity and two battery ports where PowerStream/alternator charger and an extra battery can be connected at the same time.

[@Electronzap]

Nice review.

[@Nottawrx-Justa2.5i]

Bro so this is where you went 😢 I miss your car channel so much please come back

[@tdr9204]

"Modern look"?? Ecoflow look like my Dell desktop from the 1990's.

[@chumanji9]

I wonder if the fan issue is what kill my Delta mini's inverter. I was using it in 90deg weather. It overheat. I let it cool down and use it again. It overheated. the third time it just die and inverter won't turn on again.

[@slime-loc1992]

20 mins again I had to watch this as soon as I seen it 799 is better then 12 hundred dollars 0:49

[@kincheng]

Sealed battery pack and no vent holes down low… not sure how much software can fix that

[@larrybelton5489]

I have a lot of confidence in Ecoflow , they’ve been around a lot longer than this podcast

[@thekidthatshoots]

Thank you for mentioning the missing backup battery 😂😂😂😂

[@rosalieroku3818]

Is there any way to use an EG4LL as an expansion battery? I always hate being held hostage in a proprietary ecosystem. Thanks. Great review, as always. 🙂

[@bigtom4709]

Yes, Jasonoid and Hobotech show how pretty well.

[@rosalieroku3818]

@@bigtom4709 but isn't that just to fill up the internal battery through the solar DC in? I'm really leaning to the EG4 3K inverter and the LL battery. It's heavy, but can work with any combo of solar panels/ battery/ inverter

[@bigtom4709]

Sounds like you're looking to set up a system with the EG4 ... not using the EG4 as an expansion. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@rosalieroku3818]

@@bigtom4709 it just seems like the 5kW server rack batteries are a good standard to build on. They are portable at 100lbs and the prices are great. I just want to focus on building battery capacity over time- with 5kW server rack LFPs. And then use them in different flexible systems. So I then need flexible (not proprietary) inputs like solar, alternator, generator etc, and flexible output with an inverter that's compatible with the 5kW battery. I like the small form factor of some of the power stations, but I'd really like to just Daisy chain my 5kW LFP for extra capacity. Say, for camping. Thanks for the feedback.

[@bigtom4709]

@@rosalieroku3818... The power stations like the Delta 3 are kinda all inclusive (i.e. inverter, charge controller etc.) They just have relatively small capacity. Pairing with a 5KW server rack battery definitely makes them phenomenal. I mean it's FIVE times the battery capacity ... and exchangable. Run your 1800 watt invertered 6 KW system while your second 5KW battery is off some where else charging or hell charging through your power station whenever you've got shore power.

[@SAMMIEJONESJUNIOR]

I can tell you right now the ecoflow panels can actually produce the amount power that is rated for. The rest on the market wont.

[@garymcgowan4057]

I appreciate you are truthful and not shilling for Ecoflow here, but I think you got a defective unit as others don't seem to have the same issue. Maybe they just aren't being truthful. But either way, that's a manufacturer and quality control issue. Not good.

[@JAYFEATHERBOONDOCKS]

I wish this would have come with a second port for two extra batteries or a wave 2 and extra battery.

[@Annon89]

Yeah hopefullly the fan is a software problem and not a hardware problem

[@JOESRQFLUSA]

Am I wrong? Are the eco flow BATTERIES, way more expensive than the 3+ unit…. So BUY multiple 3+ units 😮

[@texasgrillchef8581]

I prefer two… why? Because I run solar on one…. And a 12 to 48 500 watt converter…. That allows me to charge from my battery and still have the extra battery plugged in as well.

[@wrbsloat]

I wish it had more usb ports. Too many ac plugs not enough usb

[@linnmagic]

I’ll wait for the Delta 2 below $400 got mine for $411

[@kalebdaark100]

Is "beating on the unit" a euphemism for something?

[@MauriceL1980]

It's not fix yet

[@ModernSurvivalSense]

"For a tiny, small, little unit..." 🤣 I'm not a ecoflow fanboy by any stretch(0 products owned), but if the unit can supply more watts through xboost, how is that fake?

[@insidelectronics]

Xboost lowers the voltage to increase the wattage output, so it's not true output wattage and can't power sensitive devices

[@davef.2329]

@@insidelectronics Trading altitude for airspeed, or vice-versa.

[@ModernSurvivalSense]

@@insidelectronics Wattage is the power. If the item can handle the voltage drop, you have more watts to power things.

[@insidelectronics]

@@ModernSurvivalSense yes can work for heaters or resistive / inductive loads not so well on computers or other more sensitive electronics.

[@rtsrts2317]

@@insidelectronics anything with an heating element, it works fine. Just don't plug in TV or computer with it on.

[@riakata]

You sure the unit isnt broken because other reviewers do full load tests and dont see the same issue.

[@FJRyder]

I think you've got a defective unit. And multiple I don't think that's indicative of all Delta 3s

[@BackToTheGame.98]

It looks like a G4 Mac

[@udedmario]

Me... This guy looks like robbie... Wait a second... Will this battery bankk fit my EG 😂😂😂, sup Robbie still rocking my commited crew eg sticker on my water bottle 🔥

[@Probonoman]

None of the "discount codes" worked. >

[@texasgrillchef8581]

Wow $800 I only paid $600 for mime

[@davef.2329]

Get a small table fan, 9 in. or so, plug it in to one of the "tiny-baby" outlets on the front and direct it at the air intake grille if you already have one of these and/or can't get them to update the wares. Comfort Zone CZHV9B from Amazon, or Walmart works for me on some other electronic equipment. What in the world is that meme on your whiteboard behind you there?? Brgrds.

[@thefrankperspective4247]

#47 baby lol

[@Mkultra711]

Dude you too picky about internal lights backup batteries are good enough to light anything you throw at it if you camp you must have external lights that are good enough to use with this battery machine come on men give these people a break if you want make your own battery machine with internal lights or RGB lights or whatever you want on it. You always complaining about the internal lights if it doesn’t have it it won’t have it.

[@tiredofeverythingnew]

What’s with the cussing. Not needed.

[@randomshotsbyks]

Seem u not got it for free lol that’s why

[@Unit13FREMSLT]

Annoying Disney chipmunks music makes this video unwatchable.

[@bizzfo]

It’s not $799

[@jerrydavis3462]

If I don't hear about something other than eco flo I'm going to throw up I guess they have bought everyone!!!!

[@reeeek2017]

Ive been tuning into these vids for some time now. I had to cash in and subscribe 🫡