Does Kia (Now) Last Longer Than A Toyota?

Kia has been targeting Toyota and Lexus when it comes to reliability, but if you're wondering where those brands stand then this is the video for you. Seriously, I even jump on these cars to test them out!
If you're buying a new car and you're considering a Toyota or Kia, this will help you choose. The most reliable car can be had, but let's find out together how these two companies compare.
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[@theconservativechristian]

My Sportage is a 2016 and my car has 170,000 miles or 273,500 kilometers on it and it's still driving like its brand new!! I Love my KIA Sportage!

[@ECPP]

Wow that is a good run

[@AcuraintegratypeS]

We have a 2013 Kia Sorento fully loaded with 110,000 Miles And it runs beautiful. Haven't had any major problems just normal maintenance

[@jliefer2484]

have a 19 no issues at all, just got a 23, best value out there and they have great warranties

[@becausehelivesministryintl6841]

My wife bought a 2016 KiA Soul new. 8 years later it's still like new NO Issues WE do keep up with normal maintenance. 70,000 miles. So far a great little car.

[@markkrispin6944]

Kia being more reliable than Toyota???LOL. No effing way ever!

[@ECPP]

Haha, Kia really has had some big issues recently

[@maga6319]

@@ECPP So does toyota. Let's stop the clickbait scotty.

[@Slamjam88]

Kia's products have gotten a lot better over the last couple decades but I still wouldn't buy one or a Hyundai product for that matter. It's either a Toyota or a Lexus for me.

[@maga6319]

@@Slamjam88 why you can't afford one?

[@Slamjam88]

@@maga6319 no I'd rather drive my Avalon as a daily driver in the winter because it's been trouble-free ever since I bought it brand new. And I'd rather drive my lc500 in the summer. I'm pretty sure I can afford it buds. Korean cars are just trash period! I'm sorry you own one.

[@RedEyeC]

I can't verify for Toyota, but can for Kia - I bought a new 2010 Kia Soul+ in June 2009, and owned it for 10 years - zero (0) issues, one battery, one set of tires - 136K miles - general maintenance. Traded for a 2019 Kia Forte LXS that has lasted 4 years now - one car battery and zero issues. Can't complain.

[@newchannel1220]

My mom had a 2016 Kia Optima and the engine caught fire on the highway driving to p.a from nyc and they told her it was her they couldn’t pay cuz it was to much damage to determine where the fire started even tho that engine was recalled and they gave it back to her a few weeks before saying it was fine

[@RedEyeC]

@@newchannel1220 - Optima had that terrible 2.4L engine. Only the 2.0L and 1.6T have good trouble-free records.

[@datacipher]

@@newchannel1220keep in mind this guy also claimed to have an trouble free Elantra - hey he’s and them all! Trouble free! And he’s “verifying” lol. You’re always going to get the silly anecdotal accounts on any video… well MY Hyundai pony ran 3 billion miles and I never even put oil in! Hyuk!

[@cyu601]

For every Kia or Hyundai that made it to 200K, there are 50 more Toyotas that did it also.

[@gshaeffergs]

@@Swdiy not even, lol. My aunts crapped out at 70k

[@LivingInAnInverseReality]

Fact

[@nubreaks2]

How about thousands more?

[@anthonymitchell4487]

I have an 2003 Avalon XLS I use for my work car 332,000 miles the previous owner told me timing belt was done 80,000 miles ago so I'm getting close for another timein job see can it make it to 500,000 I do know it's a Lexus LS 400 1995 model in Southern California over 500,000 still going

[@MVRWC]

Kia is new to the game compared to Toyota. Give the Koreans time while you watch your LG TV, watch this video on your SAMSUNG phone, wash your clothes on your LG washer and dryer, and cook your meals on your SAMSUNG appliances.

[@RamBo-uu9so]

I can't complain. 06 Highlander AWD limited 335k. 07 Tundra SR5 5.7 287k. Both still rocking!!

[@tonyarcoraci1336]

I had a 99 Camry bought used with 75k miles. Drove it to around 250K doing basic oil changes and brakes, and it was finally killed by a young inattentive driver who ran into her side. Currently own an 06 Avalon, Bought it used with 132K on it. 5 years on, now with around 230k, still running strong. Maintenance performed since owning it: oil changes, brakes, coolant flush and new water pump. Those two vehicles were purchased as my daily drivers. In between them, after the Camry was totaled, I leased a 2014 Hyundai Sonata SE 2.0T. Drove it out of the lot, got home. Started it up the next morning, and heard a rod knock. Returned it to the dealer the next day, and to make a long story short, it got its engine replaced (Known problem with those engines at that time). I will NEVER buy another Hyundai/Kia/Genesis for as long as I live; same as VW/Audi/Porsche and Ford.

[@gilbertortiz1967]

Another great program! Good stuff as always !

[@A2theStil]

I work at a kia dealership in the service department and I’ll be the first to say kia is nowhere near Toyota . If you don’t believe me try it with your money😊

[@ECPP]

That’s fair

[@A2theStil]

@@ECPP I watch every vid you post keep it up

[@maga4813]

@@A2theStil most service workers are inexperience mechanics. A smart person wouldn't listen to you lies.

[@aasamspb967]

@@maga4813 Kias and Hyundais suck though.

[@maga4813]

@@aasamspb967 says a jealous torll.

[@christophemorichon4592]

Excellent video, pls continue the good work.

[@CelestialTrieye]

He softly caressed the Toyota and absolutely manhandled the Kia 🤣

[@maga6319]

LMAO

[@maga4813]

That's what jealous people do when they rent a kia.

[@moeanthony9308]

With reason

[@tocreatee3585]

KIA BOIZ!!!!!!!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂

[@maga4813]

@@tocreatee3585 TROLL

[@nubreaks2]

Forte vs Corolla and Optima vs Camry would've been better comparisons.

[@paro4life1]

I thought the same thing.👍

[@mychief]

Why?

[@mitsuevo8mr]

​@@mychiefbecause the forte is more economical small sedan like the Corolla while the optima and K5 direct competitor to the Camry and Accord!

[@davidvit]

That’s 100% correct!

[@LeprechaunSeeker]

​@@mitsuevo8mr- true, but then Toyota would have completely obliterated Kia. He did not want to do that 😂

[@YoPhocFays]

Love the channel as always. Mac / marks

[@michaela1655]

Dream on Kia. I am glad some company aspires to make high quality cars. But this endeavor will take a lot of effort and a lot of time. And Toyota is not going to stop raising the bar. But honestly, any car company that is not trying hard to improve the reliability of their vehicles will go out of business.

[@ECPP]

True these companies need to continually innovate and improve otherwise become extinct

[@brokeboy87]

Looked at a 2022 Kia Telluride and they are still using old problematic engine designs in modern SUVs. Despite this, it ranked fairly high in predicted reliability.

[@blackvulcan100]

Goodbye Land Rover then LOL !! I have one, just 22,700 miles has broken down twice, both times while travelling in Europe.

[@dark6c159]

I'm currently in a dispute with Kia. The audacity they have, to tell me the problem is due to lack of maintenance, is disgusting.

[@subaruamazon]

@@shawnkemp6550 07 camry 140k i was afraid of that. how have they slipped?

[@victorsiu-chong4045]

My family have and still own a Kia Sorento 2011, Kia Sportage 2013, Kia Optima 2017, Kia Forte 2019. Absolutely no problems or issues that were mentioned. Only normal maintenance and replacement of brakes, shocks etc. I’ve always looked at Toyota, but I found them cheaply made, not as solid, and compared driving ability, but always ended up with a Kia. Will go with a company like Kia who backs their cars with a 10 yr warranty than a company that only backs up their vehicles with only 5 yrs. That alone tells you something. Everything is exaggerated and a lot of misinformation is made over the internet. Please compare a Camry to an Optima.

[@ECPP]

Thank you for sharing the comment and watching

[@ronnato162]

Obviously Toyota wins. But if you're comparing Honda and Kia I think that's becoming a closer competition. I think Kia is slowly becoming what Honda USED to be in their glory days.

[@victorsiu-chong4045]

@@ronnato162 Totally agree.

[@FranciscoGarcia-bf5rp]

No hate towards Corollas! I’m proud to be seen driving my reliable money saver!

[@leecowell8165]

How about the Kia Soul? The 2024 is a really nice basic vehicle. It even has a spare tire.

[@RTXRetroGo]

I still see 90s Lexus and Toyoters rolling around which says alot.

[@careXfree1]

Well Kia’s reliability was notably shit in the 90s and early 2000s so 😂😂

[@nickgrant42]

My wife and I just bought a 2023 Toyota Venza. We love it! That should last many years!

[@ECPP]

Absolutely great vehicles

[@mikebreslaw9651]

That is a nice vehicle..hope you dont choke on the payments 😅

[@papaagidi2838]

Good luck with that hydrid Replacemet

[@LivingInAnInverseReality]

@@papaagidi2838 what are you talking about? Those batteries and systems last a long time before need replacing. Engine is super reliable and battery last 15 years now.

[@papaagidi2838]

@@LivingInAnInverseReality yes any hybrid car battery can last 15yrs if you drive 2000 miles per year . I’m talking from experience , 2010 Camry battery died at 119K miles

[@corashields9007]

I have a 2011 Kia Soul. 262,000 miles.....Its been great.

[@m83kid]

Kia always have electrical problems. Wiring with the brake lights and headlights. Best bet is a Toyota Camry.

[@richardouellette1672]

Great video but seem to me that it would have made more sense to compare the Forte with the Corolla.

[@saxyvi]

Exactly. And compare the Sonata to the Camry.

[@gabrielhuin]

I don’t believe Kia or any company for that fact will knock Toyota off their throne. Toyota has ideals and philosophies that 99% of company’s will never follow because of greed.

[@ECPP]

I believe you r totally right on that

[@maga4813]

Toyota quality control is worst than Kia.

[@gabrielhuin]

@@maga4813 i disagree

[@maga4813]

@@gabrielhuin no it's true. I'm an ex toyota owner. Feels cheaper than kia. Sorry for the truth hurting your feelings.

[@gabrielhuin]

@@maga4813 we will see which cars are on the road in 15 years.

[@rogerayala6878]

I mean, one is 27k car, the other is a 19k car... So the fact that they are comparing them means the 19k car must be doing something good, thats 8k difference between the two, idk man! I think the KIA can make a compelling case here!

[@hoomanhajiabadi3420]

the noise imitation at 12:54 killed me 😄

[@jessg.9368]

I bought my wife a 2016 Kia Optima with 62k, it was a steal because of a minor rear fender bender, for 10k .. it has a recall and I have to top off the oil. Haha So I take EXTRA good care. everything you can think of.. It drives nice! Lol I’m really grateful my wife and son have a nice ride. I have a 2017 Corolla, and I like both to be honest!!! I hope KIA keeps doing well..

[@ECPP]

Very nice!

[@richardmurray6519]

Hey ya Mark. I live in New Zealand and follow you on You tube. I'm thinking of buying either a Toyota Camry, or a Lexus Sedan or a SUV. Can I pick your brain and ask you what would be the best to buy, and what year would be the most reliable. Your input would be much appreciate thanks Mark. It doesn't mean I will buy the make you suggest, but it's always good to get an outside input. Thanks again.

[@flavapuff69]

Had a 2018 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.4 and i loved it! After last oil change I did (changed every 3k miles with Pennzoil Platinum) I burned over 3qts of oil at 35k miles total on vehicle. Needless to say I traded it for a Honda. Kia/Hyundai have amazing looking vehicles but reliability is very underwhelming. Sad thing was I was looking at the Santa Cruz as my next purchase. Maybe one day...?

[@Tingtong-gg5oe]

2.4 GDI is the brands most problematic engine.

[@johnl3230]

Toyota car care nut did a review on one and wasn't impressed with the quality. Ya might wanna check it out.

[@aasamspb967]

@@johnl3230 will be better than a Hyundai and a Kia anytime.

[@Tingtong-gg5oe]

Would you say the kia and hyundais made in korea are slightly better than US made ones ? I have seen the european and korean made kia and hyundais be super reliable.

[@DJust_Me]

Don't buy Kia cars. Those are garbage.

[@johnl3230]

Yeah, the ones made their tend to be better.

[@ronnato162]

Yes. The Korean ones are noticeably better

[@eddiepalacios451]

Can't wait to see a Toyota Vs Nissan comparison. Nice video.

[@justinbelk89]

I’ve heard about the stolen car issue, due to no immobilizer in the key & ignition, every Kia my daughter & I have purchased has been push button to start. Lessons learned by Kia.

[@ECPP]

So r have and others dont

[@xcmskim4]

Cars in Canada are required to have immobilizers. Its not required in the US so the ones getting stolen are the models without the push button start

[@chandlerchhem2128]

2014 Kia forte5 EX 2.0L NU GDI. 147k been very reliable.

[@Eli-rj9xq]

I had a 2006 kia sorento 290,000 V6.. mileage ZERO issues. Had it for 14 years. No problems

[@_Lassic_]

That's actually amazing.

[@stockey]

Same with my Borrego, great cars.

[@clarence0075]

I absolutely love my Kia on my second Kia Sorento first one had over 200,000 I just did everything the owner manuals told me to do thats it...

[@ECPP]

Thanks for sharing

[@adriaanmartina8777]

It is true I have a 2013 hyundai so far it has been very good for me kia and hyundai are good cars

[@jaimecastruita4291]

Would you be so kind of made a video of 2014 Ford F-150 with a 3.5 EcoBoost twin-turbo place thank you

[@trevorsutherland5263]

Yes, but only if you include two engine out replacements during the 10 year warranty.

[@ECPP]

Exactly

[@ErichH68]

Lol 😂

[@dfsdh432v9]

Hyundai easy to break, easy to steal , easy to catch fire. what a innovation😀

[@targetguy777]

I have almost 300000 on my prius and the car is still going strong with no major problems. I am told around 350000 i may have to replace the battery but that is a lot of miles for the money.

[@tomtom1541]

You can use a scan tool to see how much life is left in the batteries.

[@jeancadet5862]

Depends how well you take care of it

[@batfury9319]

Forget it. My friend has the very same Kia that you are showing and has taken it in to the dealership about four times already due to electrical problems the dealership says they repaired. He’s made up his mind to finally get rid of it. He said he’ll get either a Toyota or Honda.

[@mikefoehr235]

Good idea

[@mathewscott9453]

Electrical issues on the forte? I’ve done lots of looking into this car and have yet to find anything like that

[@raffiolivo3245]

The Camry does not carry a CVT transmission unless is Hybrid. The camry has an 8 speed automatic transmission. Not sure where he gets that CVT from but, who I am to judge.

[@jswong8200]

Camrys do come with CVT gearboxes in some markets, e.g. 2-liter Dynamic Force engine paired to a direct-shift CVT that has a physical first gear. That same powertrain is used in the Venza/Harrier and RAV4 in the Asian markets including Japan.

[@travisseabrooks2739]

I thought I was the only one

[@Chris-Someguy]

Probably because the corolla are cvt, still good info. I know the gas camry is 8 speed but I haven't looked at all the models and there is alot of them lol

[@itchytoes4412]

My 2013 KIA Optima Hybrid - manufactured in Korea. 2013,000 and still rolling smoothly.

[@ronnato162]

Because it's made in Korea. The ones made in the west have most of the problem.

[@markhall3434]

I think a lot of issues have to do with direct injection.. Use the high octane, get a couple MPG better, but enjoy the much improved smoothness and quietness. Regular gas is so close to detonation with these high compression GDI.. works superbly on my Kia Carnival 3.5 V6. Kia's BEST Drivetrain under the Hood. Dual Injection both GDI and Port on this one. The Big Block these days.. No Turbo Req'd..

[@ECPP]

Thanks Mark. Yes that is an issue with direct injection and turbos can add stress too. Oddly some Lexus/Toyotas rock direct and port so the carbon thing does not become an issue

[@osuk1]

I bought a 2017 GDI sportage brand new regretted it in about 2 months. When I did my first oil change it was like draining gas out of my oil reservoir. It gradually lost power and I traded it in for a 4runner. Never Kia!

[@TheOn3LeftBehind]

I have a 2018 Optima and it's been fine. My dad has had more issues with his Honda. They just told him his 2018 Accord crapped out and they want at a minimum $5400 to fix it and at a max $14,000 if it's the engine. He has $11,000 left on the car. Seriously?! I got a good one for sure. I'm just making sure I take care of my car. Car washes, engine oil and fuel system treatments, only synthetic oil, etc. and it's been fine for me at 95,000 miles.

[@Rohoactr]

I believe you. My brother works for Honda over 30 yrs. He tells me the newer Accords and CR-V are always having engine troubles.

[@Sp33dyStallion]

Interesting to compare the Camry with the forte. They're not in the same weight devision. The Kia competitor to the camry would be the K5 - or from Hyundai, the sonata. The kia forte is over $10k cheaper.

[@Jay-qn1cs]

I traded in my Kia Sorento for a Highlander and it's no comparison. You can tell the Highlander can go anywhere but with the Kia I wouldn't want to drive it across the country. My Sorento had 210k miles on it so they aren't bad.

[@stevep4182]

Great review and hit on many of the Kia issues. I do not believe this engine in the Forte, MPI is a large threat from rod bearing failures though.

[@inquizative44]

My 2021Forte cost nothing. Tires rotated, change the oil, filters nothing else. Brakes, nothing for the past 2 years, plenty meat on the shoes. Transmission fine, so far.

[@ariesmight6978]

Hi Mark, Will you please make a Kia vs Mazda video? Thank You.

[@mv55555]

100% agree on your Audi comment. I know, from experience. Low Km engine rebuild required.

[@ECPP]

Yikes

[@AndrewGray1987]

I would agree they had a big increase in quality if it wasn't for the massive Theta II engine, DCT transmission, and theft problems (selling cars without immobilizers - the "Kia boys"). My 2017 Sonata burns about a quart of oil every thousand miles. Toyota would never release an engine that bad or if they did they wouldn't keep selling it after knowing it was bad (or they would just fix it's design problems). Although that being said... My first Sonata (2003) lasted 325,000 miles on the original engine and transmission with minimal problems. My 2017 Sonata has been 100% reliable for 100k miles outside of the engine that will eventually fail.

[@chiiiiweeeee]

if you live in canada, there is no such thing as the kia boys. kias and hyundais have immobilizers because canada requires all cars to have them unlike the US

[@chefsumeerkhan]

Having a kia niro 2023 done50k miles driving for uber awesome and people like it 48mpg❤❤

[@ECPP]

Thanks

[@markrobby7136]

I have the diezel 1.6l 2008 Kia Cee'd here in Europe. The engine never disappointed me. Wake in the morning and it's ready to take me everywhere. First Turbo replacement at 262.299km (162miles), today it's 272.532km, and the engine is still strong. The only down side is the suspensions and the a bit loud engine and the horrible horn sound, unlike the German and French double horns that sound sharp and louder. 

[@jaesuck]

you can change out the horns for the doubles horns youre talking about from genesis parts

[@newyork7625]

Well I have a lxs Kia forte 2020 so far so good no complaints ..I had hondas corollas,bmws,and elantras.. Personal opinion my Forte runs very good for now.. Having a reliable car is questioned around all vehicles brands..from tranx problems to engine problems..we get lucky if we buy one of any brand that won't give us mechanical problems...making money pits😂😂 Hello anywhere from Puerto Rico blessings

[@quancao8531]

Did you heard about insurance company denied insure for Kia ? 😂

[@thomasward00]

Our 2019 Toyota CHR bought new in 2020, Transmission started going out at 67K miles... Toyota wanted $10,500 to replace... we rushed and sold it to CarMax. Will never buy a Toyota or any vehicle with CVT transmission vehicles.

[@jeffu.8053]

The graphic you showed @1:32 has "GDI" on it, which stands for gasoline direct injection. Then ten seconds later you said the engine is not direct injection. It can't be both ways.

[@markhall3434]

93 octane solves the problem w/those 12,5 compression ratio direct injection issues. Try it, knock may go away. Also try a thicker Oil.. 0W20W is darned darned thin, I'd give 5w 20 or 30 a shot, and be sure the oil filter you use has a One Way valve that should get quicker oil pressure at startup. Ford had this issue with their early Modular DOHC 4.6 engines. Oil pressure chain tensioner issue.

[@patrickgowar2234]

My 2012 Civic 2.2 iDtec (diesel) sounds quieter than the Kia on startup. A manual transmission on any car will be more reliable than a CVT So that will solve any of those problems. My Civic transmission (manual)is still as smooth and quiet as it was when new and still on the original clutch.

[@Sunnysunshine208]

Is Kia Soul a good car I love the paint color.

[@rickuyeda4818]

Kia and Hyundai consider 1 quart between oil changes as normal. Toyota doesn't use any oil between changes.

[@tomtom1541]

​​@@Hello-fd7ttthat's what happens when you use cheap metals for engine parts. They wear out much faster and need more protection. Your piston rings are probably due to be changed.

[@palebeachbum]

Actually, Toyota went through a period of several years where their engines were consuming massive amounts of oil before 100k miles. This affected many of their models. Corolla, Camry, Rav4, etc.

[@davidvit]

Buy a Kia or Hyundai built in Korea not the US. The major problems have all been on cars assembled in the US. My 2014 Forte bought new has 70000 miles and never had one single issue. Just keep up on the maintenance as with any vehicle

[@donlarsenjr2332]

NOPE. Toyota also considers a quart every 1000 miles normal oil consumption. Toyota has some engines that burn a crap ton of oil.

[@amrjihad]

Ex Kia user, Now Toyota Fortuner 2023, Never ever Kia again and would never recommend it to anyone, after the first 100K huge suffering from low quality plastic breaking all over the interior to Major malfunctioning of Air compressor , ABS break leakage, engine leak , expensive repairs & spare parts that are not available, NO MORE KIA/ HYUNDAI never !!!

[@bgodwin5333]

Mark, your the man! You’ve owned and covered from BMWs, Jags, Lamborghinis to Toyota. Very knowledgeable and relatable. Helped me save plenty of dollars 💵 ! 😎

[@JCorLC]

The regular Camry SE doesn't have CVT transmissions. Only the hybrid does

[@adrianhenryk5965]

The older the car the better results, I drive 21 years old Pontiac grad prix 100 k and I pay 800$ for maintenance a year....😊

[@DavidWeinberg-cm9xd]

In the late 80's, the Hyundia Excel was one of the cheapest cars new, like $6K. It was one of the biggest P.O.S.'s known to man, besides the Yogo? I have never seen one go past 55K. They would be in the junk yard at less than 60K. My father bought a 05" Santa Fe. It was geared so bad, it would get less than 14 miles per gallon. No a very reliable car. I told him not to buy it, but he found out the hard way. Again, told him not to buy the 02" Honda Civic Hybrid, cause it was the first year, and he had tons of trouble with it? The trans. failed at 50K and lots of other things were failing. Not a fan of imports, am a master mechanic, and have had nothing but expensive nightmares with brand new cars from Nissan. Bought a new 96" Altima, what a P.O.S.?

[@maga4813]

toyota ain't any better.

[@familyman247]

Yeah they were junk back then! Big turnaround.

[@telcobilly]

I had a '88 Hyundai Excel...it was a dog. I'd have to turn off the AC to pass someone..gutless. the 5spd manual didn't let it up much either..

[@aasamspb967]

@@maga4813 yes it is. It is the best.

[@aasamspb967]

@@familyman247 they didn't come far.

[@davea4037]

Theres also the small detail about the quality of the nearby dealerships, more specifically the service departments. I dont remember seeing u do one yet, but a side by side for the telluride vs. The palisade may b fun. Love the quality tests you've added to your videos. Thanks for sharing.

[@ECPP]

Thank you very much, yes I think the quality experience is a great way to bring a very close perspective on details.

[@kd6gs]

Forte is a competitor to corolla not camyr but it still held up well anyway.😊

[@ECPP]

Indeed

[@doe22us]

Oh men love my Toyota Corolla its been great to me, i will upgrade to an Acura TLX 2021 tech package soon though...

[@declanbrowning9395]

I don't think the Kia Forte and the Toyota Camry were meant to compete against each other. The Forte is much more similar to the Corolla, and the Camry is more similar to the Kia Optima or K5.....

[@PLATINUM2U]

Jumping on the trunk 😅😂😂😂

[@ECPP]

The real test lol

[@kerrybaral9241]

May be engine and transmissions on some models are okay! for example in 2012 Kia Forte..but a lot of other parts keep breaking every other month

[@bigmacmach1185]

We have had 3 kias, a soul, sorento and now a forte gt. Have been great cars especially for the money. The forte gt has a ton of features and a dct 7 speed for 26k. I do change the oil every 5k miles or less per recs I've read. Also the 1.6 turbo has been a lot of fun to drive and hopefully will continue to be. Ive seen the 1.6 to be a more reliable engine? Will see i guess.... Gas mileage is fantastic and has a shocking amount of room for being a compact car. Appreciate the video. Will def keep an eye out.

[@Tingtong-gg5oe]

their 1.6 turbo is well made, its the 2.0 and 2.4 GDI that is problematic

[@KayAye-ol7vb]

The 1.6 with no turbo is the least problematic, but they can still die, the only turbo cars with great reliability is Volvo, everyone else might be hit n miss. With that said Hondas make the best engine but they can be bad cars too, little annoying electronics issues on Hondas.

[@tocreatee3585]

Friend has a 2012 Sonata that caught on fire while her mechanic was driving it after a maintenance schedule.

[@subaruamazon]

@@tocreatee3585 uggghhh.

[@know916bound]

​​@@KayAye-ol7vbmazda turbos are super reliable. Plenty of cx9 turbos (2.5t skyactiv they us in everything) in the 300k mile range still going strong.

[@edmacon3264]

I have a 2016 Kia sportage with 250,000 miles on it. It was very reliable until the engine seized at 233,000 miles and Kia gave me a new engine no charge. Even though it runs great now I want to get rid of it.

[@arditsadiku8474]

Tbf you do have 250k miles on it so it lasted pretty well

[@Rockrewls]

The Camry has an 8 speed Automatic transmission, you stated its a CVT.

[@robinstahlbaum9813]

does the kia come with a complimentary fire extinguisher???

[@gjm456]

Were the sticker prices on the two cars similar ?

[@japekto2138]

When did a Camry SE AWD move to a CVT transmission? I thought it still has the 8-speed conventional automatic transmission. The Hybrid Camry might have a CVT.

[@ECPP]

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[@johnfranklin5277]

My 17 Elantra I bought new, just turned 98.000 miles with 0 repairs, 0 issues. It has the same engine you see here, but has a 6 speed automatic transmission. It runs like new, uses no oil. Transmission shifts like new also. Car has been super reliable. Only things replaced on the car is 1 battery, and 1 set of tires, and air filters. It has all the goodies on it also, and they all work fine !

[@MEN101]

But it’s Huyndai 💇‍♀️

[@johnfranklin5277]

@@MEN101 Yes , why do you think it has done 98.000 miles with 0 repairs??

[@tomtom1541]

​@@johnfranklin5277that's hardly anything though, Toyota vehicles are made to last atleast 400k.

[@johnfranklin5277]

@@tomtom1541 I doubt you'll find any Toyota, that has gone 100.000 miles, without 1 SINGLE REPAIR . Even the brake pads are all original, and I had them checked 2 months ago, I was told, they are getting there, but still don't need replacing. New tires, and 1 new battery. THATS ALL.

[@tomtom1541]

@@johnfranklin5277 I'm not taking about consumables like brake pads, light bulbs or spark plugs. Was referring to the engine, transmission or differential. The major items which cost thousands each if they fail.

[@kd6gs]

Moves the sunroof cover gently in toyota, smashes it in kia.

[@ECPP]

Right? Thought it was not noticable

[@kd6gs]

@@ECPP haha no problem love you

[@kd6gs]

My 2018 sportage still runs like new after 100k miles. Nothing went wrong so far. 2020 version is also so reliable if you treat it right.

[@fredr5698]

I liked your points but your comparison should be the corolla ana Forte...or K5 to Camry. I think they're catching up but aren't there yet. Toyota has been making cars a lot longer.

[@markhall3434]

2024 Kia Carnival w/3.5L V6 w/dual injection. High hopes, so far so good. Quality is way up there.

[@telcobilly]

One just had to see all of the recalls, fires & engine failures in the US to see that they have a long way to go to pass Toyota..

[@Jonathan-ns8is]

Life is too short? It's the longest experience we have 😂😂😂

[@ECPP]

well

[@Jonathan-ns8is]

@@ECPP well what?

[@johngarcia6876]

2018 Hyundai Sonata....Bought new...70k miles. Very good so far.

[@ep2223]

Just bought a 2007 Rav4 with140K miles. Runs so smooth with lots of power. Wouldn't even consider a Kia. Who you trying to kid!

[@ECPP]

Nice

[@KaiPonte]

It has been a long time since I bought a Kia/Hyundai. However, I found in my experience that they just aren't manufactured to last beyond two years.

[@charlesjackson1700]

👍💯..Five to seven years is Max life span for a Kia...😮 Many start having major repairs after 2 years.

[@Okoro17]

Now you and I both know that you have no experience whatsoever with Kia or Hyundai products. Which begs the question why did you come here to lie about that?

[@KaiPonte]

@@Okoro17 Really? I owned a Sedona until I finally got rid of it. My mom still owns a Sportage. Fortunately, she barely drives, being 80. I know Kia/Huyndai and the quality is crap.

[@Okoro17]

@@KaiPonte And we bought a Spectra in 2009. That thing has over 200,000 miles and my brother drives it to this day. My sister got a Soul in 2018. It has between 60,000 to 70,000 miles and she hasn't had any problems with it in 5 years of ownership. So I really question your claim. Your mother has the Sportage, probably an old one. Clearly it has not broken down in 2 years.

[@KaiPonte]

@@Okoro17 i am happy your cars are not falling apart. My mom's Sportage has 84,000 miles. She just put a few thousand dollars into it for the transmission, which was falling apart. She did so because she doesn't want to spend $20 or more on a new vehicle, which will not be driven. I'm glad you have decent vehicles. I stand by my comments and will not purchase a Kia/Hyundai ever again.

[@codygibson3765]

Aren’t Kias and Hyundais going up in flames with the hitches? Also Kia corporate is supposedly a nightmare to deal with.

[@maga4813]

2016 news. We're in 2023 kid.

[@codygibson3765]

@@maga4813 uuuuh the wiring harnesses in the hitches isn’t 2016 news tool. Get a life goof

[@satvinderbasran2273]

Excellent Review

[@BologneseJones]

They just recalled like 500000 kias because they catch on fire

[@Okoro17]

Toyota also did a recall two years ago for the same engine fire issue.

[@Scorpion54092]

Thinking about getting a Stinger Gt2 🤔 if not that I'm also considering a k900. Kia has really stepped their game up considering the fact i would've never thought to own one until recently. Looking at it as a best bang for the buck considering if i went the bmw route it would be around 20-30k more for the same features lol

[@BigBoss-tk6lh]

I've owned cars with cvt and others with regular automatic ,,,i can say cvts can't give you the punch when kick down the throttle,,not sporty like the normal automatic,,but i can say cvts are much smoother when shifting and fuel economy is better that's it,, As for kia vs Toyota i think kia will improve the quality in the future they are on the right way ..

[@kennywhite-gq1zm]

Recently German auto take out oil dipstick which make worse to check oil if have been change or not. Recently I heard bmw dealership didn’t change oil while customer paid for service which is bad since you cannot tell if they did or not without oil dipstick you cannot check to see if your oil clean or dirty did they change it or not which cause damage to your car. also computer check oil engine level if something happen it reading is fault. Which can lead engine to damage.

[@nubreaks2]

Didn't those engine problems also affect Genesis?

[@ECPP]

Well….

[@rollinchevys6134]

2017 Kia Forte is most definitely the most reliable and well made year of all Kia Fortes in my opinion. The 2.0 LU engines with the 6 speed IVT transmissions are well put together and can compete with Toyotas any day of the week they are truly Toyotas and Hondas competitors. The only way we will truly know is time as time passes us we will know which Kia is most reliable.

[@ECPP]

Thanks for sharing

[@Jan96106]

I prefer cars that don't catch on fire.

[@ECPP]

I agree

[@charleslulz6579]

I think they're the same level. I'm driving '13 Rio with 330K km on it wigh biggest issue was 1 of 4 ignition coil. Timing chain, clutch, any suspension part - they're all the same since my Kia left the factory. I also own 2.0 Kia Optima with 110K km on it, no issue at all.

[@user-hx2wl3iv3z]

It's good that kia car brands are being compared with the best brand in the maket ❤❤ That in itself is a success for kia

[@ECPP]

Thanks for sharing

[@jblaze600]

I have a 2012 Toyota Camry 100k miles which I know will last a long time. I want a Kia K5 within the next two years tho.

[@ECPP]

Nice