WAIT...New BMWs Are Now More Reliable Than a Honda???

[@MonadTransformer]

I don't think people were ever complaining *new* BMWs were unreliable. They are complaining that several years *old* BMWs are unreliable.

[@ECPP]

Thanks

[@leiflillandt1488]

In Sweden about 80 % of BMW sold are bought by companies! They lease the cars for 3-4 years and the employees drive maximum 100-120,000 km with the cars... Do they have any problems? No, what so ever. The reliability and the costs are a problem for the next owner/owners. Then the costs of the unreasonable pricey spare parts fall in the pockets of those who are "forced" to have insurances. I think the insurance companies keep the carmakers afloat, at the end!!! The car industry is an enormous waste of natural resources, without that anyone is blaming! Maybe it's, at least, a step forward when we talk about reliability!?

[@yakamofishing8267]

Yes don't buy old bmws

[@wrldofgrace999]

There’s still garbage IT ALL DEPENDS WHERE THEY WERE ASSEMBLED

[@prodbykaioken]

@@ECPP my aunt has a honda with over 300,000 miles. Im afraid people think reliability is driving a car to 100,000 miles with minor issue. Who can complain a 2020+ model BMW is unreliable when the car has yet to reach decent milage? Theres no proof, all you can show is your new BMW hasnt had problems yet

[@MikeyBadabingBadaboom]

I bought a 2019 BMW X3 in October 2022 with 60,000 miles (higher mileage) for nothing and other than finding a battery replacement and oil fluid replacement, I've had no issues with it. Its solid and feels strong and peppy.

[@cadencehashira]

Still the case?

[@dreamcatcher68-tc4dw]

Good to hear this. Just bought the same yr model with 35k miles last week. Great car

[@azmike3572]

They still use too many plastic parts (cheaper than steel) for smaller hoses, etc., which crack and/or leak over time due to engine-area heat.

[@TheOmei]

Everyone does.

[@gurp1116]

Like all domestics? 😂 like fiat?

[@matthewgrayson8]

Nothing more than Porsche or Mercedes’ uses

[@tego5370]

​​@@TheOmei everyone except Toyota and mazda. All the vehicles mentioned below Mercedes, Porsche and Domestic are all unreliable vehicles.

[@redlightning4857]

Agreed. Just about every german manufacturer uses plastic in their engine compartments. It’s to keep cost down so they can sell at a lower price point. If one manufacturer, say Audi, we’re to use all aluminum parts in their engine, their reliability would go up yes, but their car would be 3k more than the competitors, losing market. Since all of them use plastic, they’re all prone to failure. Solution: notice which parts are prone to failure and buy OEM+ aluminum parts👍

[@WREKLOC]

When i think of reliability i think of cars past 120k miles. Thats the bottom line i think every car should be able to go without any issues. If a car doesnt need major repairs from 120k to 300k miles, i consider that solid and reliable engine. I find it pointless when people brag about their cars being reliable and have less than 120k miles. I would hope you havent had problems! Thats practically new to me still! Just my opinion.

[@JoiceVaderd]

Facts. I owned a 2016 Malibu Limited LTZ for a little less than 3 years. Drove it from 60k miles to 160k miles and needed no major repairs. Got into an accident and my insurance deemed it totaled. They gave me $12k for it. I bought it for just under $11k. Have also owned a 2001 330i and currently a 2010 328i. My 330i was at 230k miles, when I sold it. I wish I didn't. Didn't do any major repairs on it, per se. It had a vacuum leak and I just replaced the entire CCV system just because everything was like $50. My 328i is at 210k miles. I drive it daily, unlike I did fro my 330i. Biggest repair I had to do was replace the ECU and engine harnesses. They got water damaged. Besides that, nothing major. Engine has been very solid. M54 and N52 treated me very well.

[@dcode1000]

there are many bmws that go past 120k just saying(i drive a 170k e46 325ci)

[@WREKLOC]

@@dcode1000 i was talking about any car in general.

[@Mario-tq9pi]

@@dcode1000 dude i drive a 2004 330ci zhp with 210000 on the dash perfectly fine lol

[@antwelacato7045]

2012 with 205,000 miles. It started giving me problems after 180,000 miles. Looking for a new car now.

[@GhezzyVids]

My 2018 X1 has had 0 problems with 52k miles. Just regular maintenance. I selected mine almost bare bones. No sunroof, no fancy extra packages. I figure the simpler it is, less things break down in the long run.

[@petewick8627]

2009: 335i- 115,000k zero problems. 2011: 335i-160,000k. Zero problems. 2014 Audi Q5 TDI- 320,000k. Zero problems

[@Maplecook]

"simpler it is, less things break down": You sound like like a true blue Toyota man. haha

[@steven5509]

@@Maplecook facts. Since he got an X1, he probably got it for the badge. Like at that price point, I’d rather get a fully loaded CX-5😭.

[@noobwow2009]

The problem is BMW engine has too much plastic components, which fail after 7-8 years. Unfortunately Honda 1.5T has relatively more plastic compared to the old 1.8L NA engine.

[@Brianuwu622]

52k miles is such a milestone🤣

[@neilquinn]

The b58 and trans look super appealing to me. While they are showing lots of reliability over the last 6 years or so, I'm still nervous to see what happens on years 7-12 or so. Looking at 340i's. I don't count newer models with high mileage either because lots of highway miles is VERY different than 7-10yrs of city driving + plastic and rubber degradation. The timing components on the back of the engine vs. front also feels scary.

[@kmarei]

There is a reason their engines put out so much power, they are complex engines, and if you don't maintain them, yeah you'll have issues .

[@RS-xx9ve]

Even if you do, their reliab wont be anything like say Japanese, or bigger simpler engines that aren't overtuned the way Beamers are.

[@briank3754]

Exactly, you want a boring and mundane car that has an awful transmission and drivetrain or do you want a car that has been tuned and engineered to inspire a driver? I know what I like and I couldn't care less if somebodies Corolla made it to 300K miles. I've seen plenty of BMWs over 200K miles.

[@RS-xx9ve]

@@briank3754 I used to LOVE BMWs, my favourite manufacturer. But they went from good cars to just a good profitmaking company. A car doesn't have to be boring to be fast and exciting AND reliable. And those 200k Beamers tend to be new ones that had many expensive repair bills. My last one died at just 83k, meticulously looked after by a main dealer. Overtuning is a way of having a cheap, unsuitable engine have more performance squeezed out, then sold at a higher price. I think the best all round - quality and performance in this price bracket is prob Lexus. Expect the upwardly mobile Japanese/Koreans to follow, inc some Mazdas. Originally Lexus were BMW/Merc ripoffs. Now they have their own style and qualities. I want to believe in BMW but I think they are p1sstaking their customers.

[@cp4512]

I’ve had a 2 high mileage BMWs over the last 5 years and they’ve both been brilliant. Just bought a new X1 and it’s superb. Fingers crossed it stays reliable 🤞

[@azmedz]

Right on my 2011, 328 I was super rocksolid. From 131K to 179K I basically i just replace the radiator which was cheap at Amazon and connecting hose that broke big deal. It was cheap everyone says expensive but really it was a Amazon and cheap. One of the best Cars I’ve ever owned better than my stupid 13 Cadillac CTS 73k. The GM has sensor issues everywhere. I never had a single sensor go out on my BMW.

[@2A5X4A]

@@azmedzn52 is reliable as fuck! And parts are real cheap for that car! I just upgraded from 2008 328i manual to a 2019 x5 40i, trying to learn about the b58 motor now!

[@Tombradyjockstrap]

Dude same I’m broke as shit and I’ve owned a 15 year old 3 e90 for 5 years it’s insane reliability for the quality you get

[@scottwinton-py9nd]

Ive owned 3bmw's 2014 328D never a single issue, then2017 m240i with the b58 engine, great car never in the shop for the 5-1/2 years i owned it, now have 2022 x3 3.0 owned for 18 months so far and no issues so far

[@jameskazanegras6270]

I had a 2006 Honda for 14 years. That’s nothing.

[@stephenlozano2816]

I’ve had my 2015 M235i N55 for 8 years and the only issue I’ve had was the trunk locking mechanism went out. I bought one from ECS Tuning for around $180.00 and replaced it myself. You do need to keep an eye on the plastic parts under the hood though. I replaced my coolant expansion hose around 45k miles as preventative maintenance because I knew they were prone to breakage.

[@tigerstorm2248]

Just curious, and to get some real world data out here, roughly what did the coolant expansion hose replacement run?

[@prettytraveller7196]

Can you fix mine too?

[@johnp4248]

The problem is people that are buying these cars can’t afford it or even maintaining it, 1: buying it from a private person, 2: having the wrong mechanic, 3: have no common sense of maintaining basic maintenance such as oil change, coolant flush etc and there the first to post bmws are crap!! lol 😂. I am not a fan of bmws v8s inline six is the way to go.

[@cheezybread7783]

can u actually get metal parts for most of the plastic crap for BMW??

[@stephenlozano2816]

@@cheezybread7783 you can find aftermarket parts to replace most of the brittle plastic parts that are prone to breakage, such as the charge pipe and a lot of the turbo & intercooler piping.

[@chriscoffman8340]

73k miles on my 2018 540i with the B58. No issues so far and it’s a blast to drive.

[@yousefa4573]

I have the same and it’s amazing engine. I have only 30k miles with no issues at all.

[@bhavyajain2427]

How much did it cost u back in 2018 (after all taxes and insurance)?

[@bhavyajain2427]

@@yousefa4573 how much did that car cost u??

[@yousefa4573]

@@bhavyajain2427 70k US dollar

[@livinglegacy8429]

@@salvationbygracethroughfaiththat doesn’t sound like grace or faith.

[@andreajackson5293]

Awesome to hear! I plan on pushing one in the next 2 years!

[@billnye5183]

2015 650i N63TU 98K miles and still outshines majority of everything on the road no issues but regular 5K oil changes 🤷🏾‍♂️ getting an m6 in a few years

[@ECPP]

That’s good news for sure

[@abriyahyasha-rahla2656]

SWEET ❣️

[@henrytang2203]

BMW 1 and 3 series are pretty reliable for the first few years - my 135i was owned for 6 years and only needed an exhaust replacement under warranty and a new gasket cover ($400). But I won't buy a 5 series or above just yet.

[@marlonjeffers5269]

BMW more reliable than HONDA!? Now that is a laughable statement. HONDA to date have sold the most engines in the world, beating all automotive makers hands down.

[@markkrispin6944]

I agree. Very laughable indeed. BMW still has a long way to go as for being reliable in every model they have

[@germanengineering204]

You know better than the people testing them, JD power, and consumer reports lol! You must be a genius, and just know it all!😆🤡

[@richboutin4044]

@@germanengineering204 it’s pretty well known that JD power awards are bought, not earned. And consumer reports is the laughing stock of the auto review world.

[@ontarioman6301]

The 1.5 turbo engine from Honda has oil dilution problem. 2019 to 2021

[@markkrispin6944]

@@ontarioman6301 that is true, but Honda corrected that problem

[@johnclarkbarbasa8370]

I heard a lot of good things about b58 engine. Thats why i bought a 2023 x3 m40i and im loving it, freaking fast and a lot of people doesn't know that im driving a fast suv.

[@3mr136]

Will the 2024 x5 have the b58 engine?

[@arturs3047]

@@3mr136 yes, sir

[@jahudini]

I drove a M340xi for 4 years. Chicago and back to NE Penn several times, DC, Vermont, and am a very hard driver on my cars. The only problem that I had was break pad replacement and my moon roof opening by itself the first 3 month I bought the car, that was resolved and no problem till I traded it in last month. You drive a car long enough, you can tell it has a bullet proof engine...think they over did it.

[@SCraig-Handsome]

Good choice… although I think the B48 is just as good. More power than most people need too

[@davepaturno4290]

​@@jahudiniToyota had a hand in ensuring the B58 would meet their standards for the GR Supra.

[@JRZ67]

We are picking up my wife’s ‘23 X3 today! She bought the 7 year 100k extended warranty because she keeps her cars till they die. Crossing my fingers on the reliability based on this model’s high reliability in recent years. I also just bought a certified ‘22 330i XDrive.

[@mikelowry5012]

Congratulations!

[@SavageBunny1]

Congrats, but to be honest, BMW's like to break down after 10 years, mileage doesn't really matter, if you drive 300k miles in 5 years, they usually don't break, it's age that kills them.

[@SABRTNDX1]

Did she get the x30i or the M40i?

[@tonyfontana8222]

My wife has a 2021 X3 hopefully last for at least ten years!

[@JRZ67]

@@SABRTNDX1 x30i with the M Sport package.

[@eye-g3485]

I own a 2015 Lexus ES 350 that has 210K mikes and runs like new . Mostly freeway but still . Changed transmission fluid 4 times and breaks 3 times and oil every 5000 miles and coolant one time nothing else never seen a leak . I still have original spark plugs inside . 2grfe by Toyota is hands down the most reliable engine ever .

[@Guivalv]

Are those miles or KM?

[@ArielAlvarez-f8w]

The same spark plugs after 210.000 miles. I dont believe it

[@sunshadow9704]

But its Lexus. Boring, not sticking to the road, soft, body rolls. Outdated tech. Nothing comes even close to German’s vehicles. 🚗

[@anjdog2003]

With zero excitement driving it.

[@AshsAutisticAdventures]

I have a 2005 gx, so far nothing but maintenance

[@PHenry-wn3li]

I've had both makes and I can say with certainty that BMW's newer than 2015 are much more reliable than Honda's. That's probably why Toyota is now using BMW engines in their most exclusive high-end models.

[@muffin4600]

Bmw engine is only used in the Supra, to my knowledge, and that's because the Supra is a reskinned z4

[@briank3754]

@@muffin4600 Its literally a Z4 with some design tweaks and some engine tuning.

[@muffin4600]

@@briank3754 yes. That's what I said

[@davepaturno4290]

​@@briank3754Not according to Car & Driver magazine writers. They stated that the GR (Gazoo Racing) Supra is a superior track car compared to the Z4, which is more of a grand touring car. So no, the Z4 is not a GR Supra that has been reskinned.

[@dmanatan]

Reliability and dependability are based on all problems. It doesn’t rank order the severity and potential cost of those problems. My Honda can have three problems for every one problem that my Porsche has but it doesn’t matter if the one Porsche problem costs more than my three Honda problems.

[@Krakondack]

Hang on a second - Consumer Reports rates cars that are fairly new. You need to see the 10+ year old ones, with 150,000 miles holding up, before making that kind of claim.

[@mr.edwards.jackson79]

True..which is what gave toyota and honda their reputation...

[@Krakondack]

@@mr.edwards.jackson79 exactly. It takes a long time to earn, or regain, a good reputation in car manufacturing.

[@yakamofishing8267]

Been telling you I have had mine for a while they are reliable. Most people that have issues are buying old bmws that have been driven hard. O but I just traded in my x1 git 25k for it apparently they hold there value

[@ECPP]

Maintenance is so important

[@DrewMarqX6]

Considering Toyota teamed up with BMW on the B58 engine, I'm not surprised at all with its high reliability. I absolutely love my 2022 X6 w/B58.

[@ahmadalghunaim2467]

i have an n54 335is for more than 10 years. pushing +150 extra hp making it around 470 hp and to be honest i have not get any issues with the engine just a leak in the radiator it is truly one of the most underrated engine with serious cappability to modification but with remember with great power comes great responsibility

[@lightsfansofthewest481]

The N54 was one of BMW's most problematic engines they ever made. Either you overmaintain yours, or you got extremely lucky.

[@marlonsalds2228]

I had my BMW, the only issue is signal light won't function sometimes 😏

[@oozie1795]

whats a signal light

[@davidholmes1771]

Massive knowledge drop by Mark, here today. My guy drops it like its Hot. Make no mistake. I Love it when this man gets to Speaking on bimmers.

[@tupapisoyyo676]

Id like to give an update on my 19 x7 x40i. No issues whatsoever on engine.only 2 issues so far have been transfer case issue having bad fluid from factory and headunit faulty. Other than that,its been a beauty. Hope this helps any x7 owners out there 😊😊

[@mr.edwards.jackson79]

Toyota has started using their engines..enough said.

[@germanengineering204]

Facts

[@Olievlog]

That's all I need

[@EdwardGomez-u8e]

I’m sure they removed the plastic in major areas or altogether.

[@KakistocracySurvivor]

Last video I watched with this guy, he was complaining why he would never buy another BMW again. And he has many more videos stating how bad BMWs are using plastic parts. Now he’s comparing BMW reliability to Hondas. I am a BMW person and they are too unreliable and expensive for their cost. I wish it were different but that’s just BMWs current reality. Hondas styling generally suck but they are generally very reliable. BMW will need a decade or more of producing reliable cars before anyone should trust in their reliability or ownership.

[@ShashankKatiyar0]

BMW boss to engineers: What is this reliability BS I am hearing about us? BMW Marketing: Oh, that's because we are going subscription model. BMW boss: I am so proud of you boys.

[@Chineywhale]

I just bought a new 2022 x5 and the steering column has issues with less that 500 miles on it. They can’t figure it out so my excitement of getting a new car has been dampened because I’m back to driving my old car while they figure it out 😢

[@lukewalker1051]

Thanks for being the messenger on automobile reliability. The public is grossly ignorant about automobiles in part because they are wealthy enough to not have to be knowledgeable. If you own an aging BMW out of warranty, better have an uncle or brother who is a BMW tech or there goes little Johnny's college fund. One thing you stated in your video which resonates with me an automotive engineer is...the more complex the vehicle aka higher end BMW's with greater engine and driveline complexity, the more failures you will have. In engineering parlance this is called reliability cost. A radio knob will always be more reliable than a Rolex mechanical movement which is highly engineered. Probability of failure is proportional to number of moving parts. Keep up the good work.

[@ECPP]

100 percent and thank you very much for the great comment. Hope you have a great weekend.

[@mohammedalaskary342]

I'm sticking with Japanese forever. All my cars have 17 years old atleast. I attempted top speed on almost all of them. Drifted when I could etc etc. My least reliable was my 350z it did 240km/h and was still pushing. I like German but with this economy I really don't see what's so special. If I get a sedan than maybe I'll consider a 335i if I can't find a Japanese equivalent.

[@davepaturno4290]

Get a GR Supra with B58. I did, and I love it.

[@mohammedalaskary342]

@@davepaturno4290 in a couple of years when the price drops Z or supra might be a good idea 💡 Otherwise I'm happy with something a bit older.

[@davepaturno4290]

@@mohammedalaskary342 Unfortunately, many new Supra buyers ignore the breakin requirement, potentially leading to higher oil consumption. That's why I bought my car, new.

[@SSY86374]

I owned my 2018 bmw f36 440i gran coupe for nearly 6 yrs, it was flawless and reliable as my Toyota prius.

[@AvengerAngel]

Re-engineering to address the issue with plastics is an admirable step by BMW. Almost all new vehicles are using more plastics for fuel economy (and cost cutting in production), so no fault of BMW applying EPA standards. The last BMW we owned was a 2017 330i, we bought new and was rear-ended so rather than suffer diminished value, we traded it in. Sorry folks, but I like the new grill design on BMW's.

[@germanengineering204]

BMW reliability, and build quality has gotten a lot better! Hopefully people will see they are a different breed nowadays!

[@thisisCHOPZZ]

New grill reminds me of a pig's snout 😅 but perhaps it'll grow on me over time

[@madhunter6420]

doesnt look like bmw anymore

[@hyuggie]

thanks BMW rep

[@germanengineering204]

@@hyuggie Welcome! BMW ranked number 1 in consumer reports out of all brands again this year! Spectacular cars buy one if you can!!😄

[@youngmonaco2039]

My dad has a 2014 428 and it has given him zero problems. It has about 100k on it.

[@zanelancaster2007]

I used to own a Toyota LandCruiser Prado from 2014. The paint came off in sheets and the frame started to rust at an alarming rate! I now don't own a car because I am saving up for an F30 320i from 2017.

[@johnsambo9379]

Had a Honda Civic 2016. Hated it. The touch screen constantly blinked and the brakes sucked

[@neotemana]

Though the B58 is super reliable, I still smell something fishy about that high reliability ranking

[@tego5370]

I agree. The auto issue this year still have realibity as average

[@velvetblue2285]

The B58 and S58 both engines they are incorporating in a lot of their cars/suv's right now.

[@E.Z.Walker3693]

After seven years then I’ll start believing

[@neotemana]

@@E.Z.Walker3693 Exactly!...We have yet to see proper high mileage examples

[@velvetblue2285]

@@neotemana there are many high mileage B58 engines as it is on a lot of their cars especially since 2016. Toyota even put that I6 in their new Supra and if Toyota did that then they know the potential of that engine which is reliable. But regardless you can see the stats of that engine and how amazing it is. Until you try and put extra crazy horsepower on it yeah you may need to replace parts on them especially better parts which is what what goes for any engine since it was made for a specific area but a STOCK engine is all around amazing.

[@azmedz]

My 328i with the none turbo 3.0 was rock solid and it was 12 years old with 179k before it was stolen: the only thing I did, in 50,000 miles from 131 to 179 was replace the radiator because It did crack. It was old and a hose connected to the radiator. Since then I’ve got a 2013 Cadillac CTS with 73k it is generally a piece of shit with GM sensor failure everywhere. My BMW has not one single sensor from 2011 before the n20 was rock solid.

[@azmedz]

And by the way, everyone says their pipes and hoses are expensive, but I went to Amazon and they were generally cheap. Maybe not as cheap as my Dodge charger but those are generally just garbage anyways, of course everything on a dodge chargers cheap because it’s crap.

[@tyleraguilar2474]

As he said at the start of the summer. Life is too short to drive boring cars. So keep your Toyota and Lexus and I will enjoy my life and plan just in case of a issue the same way I would with any one other car

[@JohnJohnson-dv1ds]

I’ve owned six 5 Series BMW’s. My last a 335i. I loved the cars but grew tired of all the mass. I now have a 230i coupe, and although it’s not a lightweight, I don’t feel like I’m towing something around. Love everything about it especially the new i8 drive.

[@ECPP]

Thanks for sharing m. Some better models these days

[@DarkData100k]

I had a 2004 BMW 3-Series. I stopped counting after the 20th time it was in the shop. Glad they are getting better.

[@ECPP]

Cheers

[@bimsetre]

If you drive a BMW as you would drive a Toyota/Lexus, the BMW would outlast the T/L easily, especially when rust is regarded. And in the mean time you would enjoy very nice electronics, brakes that will never let you down, engines as smooth as lambswool, handling second to none, interior quality beyond the most, and on top "Freude beim fahren". ZF transmissions are unsurpassed, and have always been so. ZF = Zahnrad Fabrik. T/L has always been a "Near Death Experience", therefor T/L owners drive slowly or stay home. At least that´s what seems to be in my country.

[@germanengineering204]

People that haven't owned one just don't get how great these cars get down the road!👍

[@Selector21]

@@germanengineering204 most people commenting here can't afford (or don't want to pay) BMW maintenance prices. They just want to drive it for 300,000 miles (yep, there's a guy in comments who said if an engine can't run for 300k miles without issues, it's not reliable) like a Camry and expect nothing to ever break. And it'd be ok... but you see, Honda/Toyota owners always feel like their opinion re: BMW/Porsche/MB/Audi means so much they MUST express it :)

[@germanengineering204]

@@Selector21 I forgot my audience at times, and have to remember I'm commenting on KZbin!😄

[@ngw1976]

My family (based in Germany) has owned several Bimmers over the years - a 1999 E38 (imho the best looking 7 Series to date), a 2011 E84 (1st gen X1), a 2014 F25 (2nd gen X3), and a 2016 F48 (2nd gen X1). All had at least 150,000km on the clock, the E38 had 250,000km on the clock when we sold the respective vehicles. Never encountered any major problems, but we did all the required maintenance and some extra service e.g. changing the transmission oil every 80,000-100,000 km, which extended the lifespan of the respective transmissions. Providing the cars with all this service was not a cheap endeavour, though, as one can imagine, that's the downside of owning a Bimmer, sort of like having a very demanding girlfriend. 😐😉

[@kjhnsn7296]

Yes, even though BMW says its "lifetime", im looking to change out transmission oil and filter at 60k on my 535 as per ZF the maker of the transmission. Dealer wants $1200 to do this. Robbery. The kit including ZF fluid can be had for $300. Looking at other options.

[@chrislim7976]

Very demanding girlfriend indeed. You can't even just keep it in the garage. It will start needing attention just sitting there.

[@ngw1976]

​ @kjhnsn7296 We were lucky, my father was on good terms with one of our local BMW dealers and an independent garage owner in our neighbourhood, which meant we got acceptable discounts. 😁 I'm afraid 1,200$ is rather the norm for this kind of maintenance, last year I had a transmission fluid change done on my Audi SQ7 at an independent local garage, which set me back 1,100€. 😐

[@ngw1976]

​@@chrislim7976 But the Bimmers have given me more pleasure than any girlfriend I was together with. 😆

[@chrislim7976]

@@ngw1976 Unfortunately I have come to the same conclusion.

[@nortiusmaximus1789]

I feel blessed by the Reliability Genie having owned an M2 (2020), M4(2016), 530i, XM 550i (2022), and now a (2023) XM 760i with only a flat tire on the 530i. Yes, I was OCD about maintenance and preventive repair/replacement and was a Dealer's Unicorn when it came to replacing components before they passed life expectancy. I trusted my Service Advisor and she and the mechanics rewarded me with beautiful well-maintained vehicles that ran perfectly no matter how many dumb things I did to them! My wife basically pushed me into the Driver's seat of the (23) 760 and said it was time for true luxury. I feel comfortable knowing that the Dealership Owner had this car before me. You know it was well-maintained! So, thank-you for your insights!

[@pm7805]

What’s your thoughts on the oil pan of the recent BMW models? I could never understand a leaking base pan that costs owners $1500+

[@atrank]

I was going to give up on BMW after owning and maintaining a 2008 e90 335xi for ten years, but found a 2020 230i with manual transmission and couldn’t help myself. It’s great to know quality has greatly improved. My son is a mechanic at our local mini/bmw dealer and has noticed that the third gen minis (2014-present) are much more reliable than previous generations.

[@belalmohammad3705]

I’ve got a 2023 BMW 330e in Australia (plug in hybrid) and I just love it. It’s my second BMW and I’ve driven nearly 10,000 km without any issues at all. Very reliable, super comfortable and exceptional performance, combined with amazing great customer service from the BMW dealership (Waverley BMW).

[@phatmeow7764]

well i've heard many good stuff about the B57/58 petrol/diesels of the current gen BMW engines

[@drewk8601]

Would be interested to hear your take on the new S68 engine vs the N63 TU3 / S63, especially with the change to electronic VANOS

[@ECPP]

That is a great conversation and for another videonindeed

[@michaelmitchell9612]

I have an 06 Honda Pilot, (17 yr's old). Looks like it just came off the line, doesn't burn or use any oil, (oil & filter change every 4000 mi), A/C still ice cold. Other than tires, battery & brakes have never had ANY problems with it. At 100,000 I did change the timing belt & water pump as suggested at 80,000. Dealership & repair shops wanted 1,500-1,900. I got the belt & water pump for 202 and did it myself. YOU'LL NEVER FIND A NEW OR NEWER BMW THAT CAN GO FOR 17 YEARS WITHOUT MAJOR PROBLEMS.

[@RS-xx9ve]

BMWs are dead at 17 yrs, even on low mileage. My own experience, much as I love the styling and identity of them. The only way around it is if you change the broom's handle AND brush ie mostly new parts far in excess of the scrappage value.

[@anjdog2003]

Like going on the kids ride at an amusement park when driving a Honda.

[@benjaminvmarder6519]

I went with IS over 3series (CPO) because I still question long term reliability. Now leasing is a totally different animal

[@smarty432]

But if BMW does not lower the repair and maintenance costs that are infamous for their brand, I will forever stick with the Japanese brands that will not break the bank in the long term.

[@ECPP]

That’s fair

[@Tyler-b7j6h]

There are more and more Euro specific mechanics popping up. The issue is a lot of the euro brands require so much training and knowledge a lot of places don’t want to do it. As more companies realize there is a market for it more will start popping up

[@mikkaylaleighann9850]

It would help a lot if you denoted when the different engine generations were introduced

[@typicalhouse3301]

16 bmw 435 here. Valve cover gaskets leak at 64k miles replaced. 73k miles and no issues besides that.

[@lion3014]

It sucks that the 640i didn’t get the b58 treatment

[@livinglegacy8429]

Factssss that's why I'm looking at the 440i GC since the 640i GC isn't reliable

[@sykespe]

Would you put mini in the same boat in terms of reliability specifically last and current gen models

[@Niles-Guy]

I rely upon advice of actual mechanics who have to work on cars. Everyone of them from all walks of life have stated to me BMW is extremely unreliable and prone to frequent breakdowns and expensive to repair . Stay away from them is what was told . No way on long term is BMW just as good as a Honda. Straight up Bologne Sandwich

[@muhammadghandura115]

Man! Great video… can you do a video on Mercedes Benz reliability as well? Greatly enjoyed watching this

[@ECPP]

Great suggestion!

[@Tyler-b7j6h]

Only issue I have is turn signal. For some reason it’s not there. Must be a upgrade package or something. 😏

[@sunflowersoul821]

Thank you for alleviating my concerns about investing in a BMW. I am definitely going to purchase the X4 M40i.🥰

[@ECPP]

The X4 is a great choice!

[@pb3]

The 128i is bulletproof pretty much , speaking from personal experience

[@mickill2]

My 2022 X3 30i has had zero issues,runs like smooth butter.

[@DMCarReviews]

2022 X4 M40i - 53K miles💪

[@joannkhan5701]

Man I hope they switch the gearbox finally and put it so that shifting up is to upshift and down to downshift(up=+, down=-) instead of upshift by shifting down (down=+,up=-)

[@ECPP]

Well….not sure the change is coming

[@JonathanMoosey]

Had some issues with misfiring with my 2015 X5 xDrive50i with N63TU V8 but I had plugs, coils, mass air flow sensors, and PCV hoses (under factory warranty) replaced and haven’t had any issues sense. None of those repairs were all that expensive and now it’s running fine.

[@JonathanMoosey]

To add clarity, only the PCV hoses were replaced under BMW warranty. The other repairs were relatively cheap

[@livinglegacy8429]

Hey comment section What is the oldest bmw would you get? This video convinced me to get the B58 but is a 2016 B58 worth it or is he just referring to 2020+ BMWs?

[@gregoryh4601]

What do you think if BMW would get those Turbo away from the Engine and get the Firehose from The old Aeroquip then cover your rubber hose to make them Last a lot long

[@ECPP]

Yes get turbo heat away and swap many plastic parts out for a more robust design of parts

[@ren2704]

I have an 2019 X2, never had any problem. Everything is on point though in city driving the gas mileage is not good at all.

[@lloydbanks6609]

Just came across your video and its very timely, maybe you can offer some advice. My wife and I are interested in used BMW X3/X5 between years 2018-2021, and advice on which year, model, engine type with best reliability would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[@ECPP]

Hi Lloyd great choice and both the X3 and X5 potentially carry BMW s best engine right now, the sweet spot b58 usually labelled ‘40 series. Stay away from the n63 turbo v8 it’s powerful but complex and a little more problematic especially if you plan to keep it for awhile

[@fabiusmaximuscunctator7390]

I have 60k miles on my F30 318d now. I changed the oil after every 6k to 7k miles as you said in an old video. The car is 5 years old now. Which kind of maintenance would you suggest? Flushing the transmission and changing the oil? Changing the coolant? Changing the oil of the rear axle differential? Do you think I can go another 60k with it?

[@AmitojdeepSinghBrar]

Change the trans fluid at 60-80k. Good job servicing it!

[@fabiusmaximuscunctator7390]

Thx mate!

[@sebasromero2505]

Change all the fluids, brake fluid, transmission, rear differential, coolant. (If you haven’t done it already).

[@fabiusmaximuscunctator7390]

@@sebasromero2505 thx

[@Hahahahadavee]

Should i get bmw 440i 2017 or s5 2017 can’t decide between both of these cars , my priority is reliability fun and social status also drive on uk weather

[@nycupperes]

Definitely the 440i with the B58 will be reliable and fast. I have a 430xi convertible with the B48 and it gets significantly better MPG (27 to 28) than my 740 (22 mpg).

[@Maplecook]

As the owner of a (still mint condition) 1991 Honda Civic Si, I take this not so much as evidence of BMW's improvement, but more as a testament to how far modern Honda has fallen. I tried to like the new ones, even going to the dealership to check out the new products. I was horrified at all the cost-cutting designs I found. To sound like an old fart, yeah, they don't make 'em like they used to. Thanks for always having such a great channel, Mark! Cheers! =)

[@ECPP]

Thank you so much. Haha you are right we are from a time when some of the older gen cars were over built and under engineered and that’s why they lasted. Hope you have a great weekend.

[@greymark420]

Well all i am going to say is that i have owned 5 Honda's shortly getting my sixth. Not one has let me down, a few minor issues but reliable and cheap to run. My current car FK8 has 49000 on the clock, set of wiper blades, two tyres and rear pads has been the total cost. So no you don't have to go back to 1991 for reliability.

[@realmac3k]

It’s a testament to Honda engineering that a car from 1991 is still on the road today. Impressive!

[@Maplecook]

@@realmac3k Fist bump!

[@misterchuck6866]

Things changed when Mr. Honda died

[@TinaNguyen-s3d]

I owned BMW 2011 328 x drive still driving smooth with regular maintenance

[@kjhnsn7296]

My 2015 535 fully loaded has no issues at 55k miles. That said, it's not driven like a get away car, garaged and oil changed every 6 months.

[@cormaro13]

Sounds like you don't drive at all , so you don't count lol when that oil is changed every 3 months come talk

[@kjhnsn7296]

@@cormaro13 unless you are tracking the car regularly or its your DD, changing oil every 3 months is a waste.

[@cormaro13]

@K Jhnsn if you're daily obliviously not a garage queen like yours lol every 5k is where I do mine at even with full synthetic

[@rousseau327]

55k miles is barely out of the break in period for the reliability conversation

[@anjdog2003]

I leased a brand new 2019 Honda Accord, you know car of the year. The air compressor went out after 5k miles.

[@nikospapageorgiou1636]

In Greece with a population of about 10M during 2022 Toyota sold 14.000 cars, BMW+MINI about 7.000 and Honda only 300 cars ! Honda is out of market with their new ultra expensive hybrid models.

[@ECPP]

Thanks for sharing. Yes cars are getting way too pricey

[@MissionForward3]

The smart play is a B48 in a JCW Mini Cooper. You get BMW technology at a discount in a cool little package.

[@postalpancho]

I can vouch for the 4cyl b48 performance. I wanted to buy a m240i last year but my BMW dealership could only allocate a 230i for me. I’ve owned a 230i for a little over 6 months and I’ve smoked 370Z, Challanger RT Hemi, Trans Am WS6, STI and V6 Camaros. The B48 is a stout 4 banger that will easily outperform much larger engines. BMW claims 250hp but I suspect 260 at the wheels 280 at the crank and torque has to be over 300 lb because it launches like nobody’s business.

[@nycupperes]

I have the 430xi convertible and the transmission and gear ratios are perfection. I don’t even need sports mode, comfort works well.

[@paganizondasroadster1660]

BMW lie about hp numbers the m5 comp makes over 625 hp and bmw claims 598. The m5 comp is quicker than the e63 which weighs 200kg and has 625hp.

[@ryans3552]

After warranty, that’s when problems start, I reckon. If you have the funds or you do your own maintenance, you’ll be fine. But for us peasants who can’t DIY these engines, it will be a big money waster in the long run. 😆

[@chrisa1844]

💯The Best unbiase Review about Bmw hands down with great levels of detail i have every heard. 👍 Great Job brother 👏 You just increased their sales and customer Confidence.....Bmw should pay you for this segment 🤗. Thank you Btw, i have owned several 18, Bmw's from 1995-740il to 2006-650i and now my 💥2012 535i Msport still looks and drives like new with 300k miles on it. Carbon Black w cinnamon red. Great cars....✅The best Car.

[@livinglegacy8429]

I was thinking of getting a 2015 535i Xdrive. What are some tips for maintenance and to keep running as long as you did?

[@bharadwaj0072002]

Please make a video on most reliable diesel in the German trio

[@ECPP]

Well….

[@cecilotto504]

Do some videos on pickup trucks

[@ECPP]

Yes indeed

[@gregpapagno5683]

I have 90k on my s55. So far so good

[@abdellkinaniassign3014]

Ahhh ,I am truck driver .I see BRAND NEW BMW AND MERCEDES on the side off interstates everyday. .sometimes 15 years honda whith flat tire

[@egx161]

I would never buy a BMW but I am a fan of German engineering and tools. I hope BMW gets their vehicle act together. I’m rooting for them and hope they build great EVs or hybrids in the future.

[@jessebaldwin2661]

If you like German engineering buy a Mercedes. I've had four of them including two SLs and had very few trips to the repair shop.

[@henzo7087]

@@jessebaldwin2661 Yeah Mercedes-Benz is the best

[@Desertduleler_88]

EV's are a non sustainable scam, soon private transport will be a thing of the past.

[@troytruong8246]

They can make reliable cars. Why would they? They need to make money out of poor ignorant people. I used to have 2 used bmws. Biggest mistakes.

[@germanengineering204]

I've had 5 BMW's over the years, and even my M cars have been extremely reliable! People can say, and think whatever they want doesn't bother me one bit!

[@YoPhocFays]

Love the channel as always

[@STONEDECISION]

I love when you get a check and do a complete 180.

[@hloni_saved_by_grace3904]

🤣 you don't trust this news?

[@STONEDECISION]

@@hloni_saved_by_grace3904 sounds like gosiple to me

[@AlanAndalon]

Maserati & Alfa Romero also use ZF Transmissions

[@ECPP]

The tranny is a sturdy unit for sure

[@edwardkheyfets3390]

Have a 2020 x3 on a lease that is up less than a year, not sure if I should keep it or return it, as per reliability

[@blutek8989]

depends if you want to gamble or not. Could work out for you and you know the car was taken care of at least

[@blutek8989]

A good thing to do is just to pretend you're still making monthly payments, and put it aside for repairs.

[@edwardkheyfets3390]

@@blutek8989 one way of looking at it, or just get something new

[@freytheviking]

What about the S58? Any reliability numbers on those? Seems to be partially based on the B58.

[@jahudini]

It is a tuned and modified B58. Personally to really push that engine you need to be on the track...with the manual, you are barely making a dent, as it keep demanding you press metal to metal which is virtually impossible on State high ways. About reliability I reckon is as good as the B58.

[@makipa20021]

I own a used BMW which l bought with 28 k miles and to maintain it is crazy expensive. Therefore l bought a brand new Toyota Rav 4 hybrid and l love it so far …. I added extra 5 year warranty so for 8 years l will enjoy the peace of mind

[@anjdog2003]

Oh boy a Toyota hybrid. Do you try to stay awake driving it?

[@makipa20021]

Toyota hybrid is an excellent commute car over 40 mpg and l owned German cars Mercedes s class and BMW 5 series again you buy a car for a purpose . BMW is plastic water pump plastic , valve cover gasket plastic … it looks like plastic everywhere . Just replaced a valve cover gasket $$2000 with only 80 k miles you don’t have to do that in Toyota . I have family to feed not community to impress

[@makipa20021]

Btw Toyota hybrid has 220 hp is pretty good - again is not meant for racing 😅

[@vdb008]

What about the electric BMW one’s now ?. Should one go for it now ?

[@IR-xy3ij]

I know from my experience with m4s from two generations that the s55 and s58 engines are absolutely bomb proof when used on track

[@rickhitman]

The best thing Bmw ever did was team up with Toyota to make the b58. Now they have the looks and the Reliable Toyota put them on the right track.

[@DMCarReviews]

Toyota never participated in the engineering of the B58. It's a 100% BMW made engine. Toyota just has a license to use it.

[@rickhitman]

@@DMCarReviews so the article I have read must be wrong then? I highly doubt that tho. There's even a few KZbin videos about it.

[@ADVShadow]

@@DMCarReviews false… BMW did the engine with major flaws… then Toyota fixed all the way.

[@DMCarReviews]

@@ADVShadow Toyota has done no changes to the B58 engine. It was made 100% by BMW, and Toyota acquired a license to use it in their cars. Go educate yourself.

[@megis77]

Wrong ​@@DMCarReviews

[@davepaturno4290]

Consumer Reports have shown recently that overall, BMW ranks #1 out of 35 auto manufacturers selling vehicles in the US. This is not strictly for reliability, but in order to reach this level, its reliability must be average or better. Also remember that Toyota worked with BMW on the B58 that is used in the GR Supra. This car has been very reliable after 4+ years of production.

[@Maplecook]

"temperature swings are the enemies of plastics": yeah, and in the old days, they would just make stuff out of metal, and the problem wouldn't exist in the first place. lol

[@ECPP]

Haha, true, I hear that

[@starboard9551]

True, though the main reason for using plastic nowadays is primarily for weight savings and for BMWs in particular it's for helping to balance out the car so that the front end and the rear end weigh close to the same amount. Plastic is also a better insulator than metal so as long as it doesn't get overheated it actually helps keep the engine warmer when the car's off, which means it's actually the main thing that prevents the rapid temperature swings.

[@nycupperes]

I had read that the new B engines hold in heat much longer in the closed deck design, to avoid any sudden temperature changes. If I drive my 740xi in the morning, and go for lunch, the temp gage is not cold.

[@ZDY66666]

Except BMW electronic issues which could cost so much money to even find where the issue is, is still quite costly to maintain even if drivetrain and engine issues no longer plague it

[@ontarioman6301]

Consumers also stated back in the day that Subaru were reliable when the engines were blowing head gaskets. 😂

[@Tsukuyomi8]

What about series 1 and the new m2 ?

[@ECPP]

Fun cars

[@Tsukuyomi8]

Yep I meant, do they gave decent reliability? Thank you