WAIT...New BMWs Are Now More Reliable Than a Honda???

Some new information on the market tell us that in fact, a BMW is more reliable than a Honda today. That means if you pit Honda vs BMW, you might now want to buy a BMW and you might find that a BMW is worth it over a Honda. At least, that's some of the information we're getting today, but let me take you through why that's true in some cases, but not in all. We'll walk through lots of BMW and Honda comparisons and the different failures and problems you might see with these great cars.
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[@MonadTransformer]

I don't think people were ever complaining *new* BMWs were unreliable. They are complaining that several years *old* BMWs are unreliable.

[@ECPP]

Thanks

[@leiflillandt1488]

In Sweden about 80 % of BMW sold are bought by companies! They lease the cars for 3-4 years and the employees drive maximum 100-120,000 km with the cars... Do they have any problems? No, what so ever. The reliability and the costs are a problem for the next owner/owners. Then the costs of the unreasonable pricey spare parts fall in the pockets of those who are "forced" to have insurances. I think the insurance companies keep the carmakers afloat, at the end!!! The car industry is an enormous waste of natural resources, without that anyone is blaming! Maybe it's, at least, a step forward when we talk about reliability!?

[@yakamofishing8267]

Yes don't buy old bmws

[@wrldofgrace999]

There’s still garbage IT ALL DEPENDS WHERE THEY WERE ASSEMBLED

[@prodbykaioken]

@@ECPP my aunt has a honda with over 300,000 miles. Im afraid people think reliability is driving a car to 100,000 miles with minor issue. Who can complain a 2020+ model BMW is unreliable when the car has yet to reach decent milage? Theres no proof, all you can show is your new BMW hasnt had problems yet

[@MikeyBadabingBadaboom]

I bought a 2019 BMW X3 in October 2022 with 60,000 miles (higher mileage) for nothing and other than finding a battery replacement and oil fluid replacement, I've had no issues with it. Its solid and feels strong and peppy.

[@kmarei]

There is a reason their engines put out so much power, they are complex engines, and if you don't maintain them, yeah you'll have issues .

[@RS-xx9ve]

Even if you do, their reliab wont be anything like say Japanese, or bigger simpler engines that aren't overtuned the way Beamers are.

[@briank3754]

Exactly, you want a boring and mundane car that has an awful transmission and drivetrain or do you want a car that has been tuned and engineered to inspire a driver? I know what I like and I couldn't care less if somebodies Corolla made it to 300K miles. I've seen plenty of BMWs over 200K miles.

[@RS-xx9ve]

@@briank3754 I used to LOVE BMWs, my favourite manufacturer. But they went from good cars to just a good profitmaking company. A car doesn't have to be boring to be fast and exciting AND reliable. And those 200k Beamers tend to be new ones that had many expensive repair bills. My last one died at just 83k, meticulously looked after by a main dealer. Overtuning is a way of having a cheap, unsuitable engine have more performance squeezed out, then sold at a higher price. I think the best all round - quality and performance in this price bracket is prob Lexus. Expect the upwardly mobile Japanese/Koreans to follow, inc some Mazdas. Originally Lexus were BMW/Merc ripoffs. Now they have their own style and qualities. I want to believe in BMW but I think they are p1sstaking their customers.

[@johnclarkbarbasa8370]

I heard a lot of good things about b58 engine. Thats why i bought a 2023 x3 m40i and im loving it, freaking fast and a lot of people doesn't know that im driving a fast suv.

[@3mr136]

Will the 2024 x5 have the b58 engine?

[@arturs3047]

@@3mr136 yes, sir

[@jahudini]

I drove a M340xi for 4 years. Chicago and back to NE Penn several times, DC, Vermont, and am a very hard driver on my cars. The only problem that I had was break pad replacement and my moon roof opening by itself the first 3 month I bought the car, that was resolved and no problem till I traded it in last month. You drive a car long enough, you can tell it has a bullet proof engine...think they over did it.

[@SCraig-Handsome]

Good choice… although I think the B48 is just as good. More power than most people need too

[@davepaturno4290]

​@@jahudiniToyota had a hand in ensuring the B58 would meet their standards for the GR Supra.

[@SSY86374]

I owned my 2018 bmw f36 440i gran coupe for nearly 6 yrs, it was flawless and reliable as my Toyota prius.

[@anjdog2003]

Honda's and Toyota's if you need a power nap while you're driving these are the cars for you.

[@joannkhan5701]

Man I hope they switch the gearbox finally and put it so that shifting up is to upshift and down to downshift(up=+, down=-) instead of upshift by shifting down (down=+,up=-)

[@ECPP]

Well….not sure the change is coming

[@Tyler-b7j6h]

Only issue I have is turn signal. For some reason it’s not there. Must be a upgrade package or something. 😏

[@phatmeow7764]

well i've heard many good stuff about the B57/58 petrol/diesels of the current gen BMW engines

[@gregoryh4601]

What do you think if BMW would get those Turbo away from the Engine and get the Firehose from The old Aeroquip then cover your rubber hose to make them Last a lot long

[@ECPP]

Yes get turbo heat away and swap many plastic parts out for a more robust design of parts

[@rickhitman]

The best thing Bmw ever did was team up with Toyota to make the b58. Now they have the looks and the Reliable Toyota put them on the right track.

[@DMCarReviews]

Toyota never participated in the engineering of the B58. It's a 100% BMW made engine. Toyota just has a license to use it.

[@rickhitman]

@@DMCarReviews so the article I have read must be wrong then? I highly doubt that tho. There's even a few KZbin videos about it.

[@ADVShadow]

@@DMCarReviews false… BMW did the engine with major flaws… then Toyota fixed all the way.

[@DMCarReviews]

@@ADVShadow Toyota has done no changes to the B58 engine. It was made 100% by BMW, and Toyota acquired a license to use it in their cars. Go educate yourself.

[@miskamakkonen2401]

Wrong ​@@DMCarReviews

[@Jimbo1268]

Dude, that’s bullshit and we all know it. The plastic crap, turbos, gasket and coolant leaks make BMW similar or below industry average. When it comes to cost of repairs it will always near the bottom of the list. Many of the rankings reflect only the first year or two of ownership. Good luck with a 7 year old BMW

[@ECPP]

Thanks

[@cecilotto504]

Do some videos on pickup trucks

[@ECPP]

Yes indeed

[@waichoi]

The new BMW X series don’t have oil leading problems anymore

[@urluelhurl]

Can we really trust a car company that intentionally made it harder to replace parts so they can upcharge labor cost? Why did BMW choose to flip the belts and water pump inward?

[@ECPP]

Totally agreed, what a mess

[@lariyo9122]

Never buying a BMW again. I have learnt my lesson. To be fair, my first 2 BMWs had good reliability but the last one was really bad.

[@ECPP]

What kind was bad?

[@lariyo9122]

E87N... timing chain issues at 50k miles. Coil packs, low Oil pressure (not just faulty sensor), cam sensors, you name it. It was also my first petrol engine in many years... never had issues with BMW diesel. Drove one till 170k and without problems

[@fabiusmaximuscunctator7390]

I have 60k miles on my F30 318d now. I changed the oil after every 6k to 7k miles as you said in an old video. The car is 5 years old now. Which kind of maintenance would you suggest? Flushing the transmission and changing the oil? Changing the coolant? Changing the oil of the rear axle differential? Do you think I can go another 60k with it?

[@AmitojdeepSinghBrar]

Change the trans fluid at 60-80k. Good job servicing it!

[@fabiusmaximuscunctator7390]

Thx mate!

[@sebasromero2505]

Change all the fluids, brake fluid, transmission, rear differential, coolant. (If you haven’t done it already).

[@fabiusmaximuscunctator7390]

@@sebasromero2505 thx

[@lacistec]

My Toyota and Lexus is still on top as they should be so I am not worried.☺

[@labornurse]

Same here. I don't want to waste anymore of my life bringing a car back to be fixed over and over. Some brands just wear you out...

[@AvengerAngel]

Yup, simplicity and sticking to what works. That's Toyota. A 2022 Tacoma TRD Sport and a new Rav4. We traded-in a VW Passat and Nissan Roque (still trying to figure out what possessed us to buy a Nissan!)

[@gous5649]

Same... I've always generally loved American brands due to their V8's, power and styling but man, not reliable. (Trucks and v8 cars). We have since switched to Lexus and toyota and our vehicles have been flawless... I think going fwd that's the only brands we will keep buying.

[@Cakewalk.]

lol.. ToyoTAXI Lexus got away with a measly $180M fine instead of $1.2b fine, they paid their way to reliability, and blind ToyoTAXI fartboys are just blatantly uninformed about it, ToyoTAXI has been caught concealing safety defects, ToyoTAXI users are just CULT users programmed that they are the most reliable but they are not😂

[@gous5649]

@cake Walk interesting.. is there proof of this, like an article or something? I'd be interested in reading. Regardless though, from my personal experience I've seen toyota, honda and lexus last, with minimal breakdowns. Had a 07 civic beater and that thing ran trouble free from the time I owned it from 220k kms to 330k when I sold it. Only did brakes and fluids. Friend of mine has 600k kms on his 4runner. He's had minimal failures. Mainly fluid changes, brakes etc. I also work with a guy who was doing deliveries for the oil sands on parts for refineries and pipelines and he logged 500k plus. Got rid of his tundra only cuz he hit a deer

[@sayefmahmudsuzan2506]

I am thinking to get the 2024 x3 m40i which has the b58 I believe, do u guys think it’s a wise decision to have that in terms of reliability. I heard good stuff on that engine, I obviously can’t buy a car and then switch to another after few years so I am planning to keep it at least for 10 years or so. I am interested in German cars not on Toyota or Lexus or any other brands. Any suggestions would be appreciated

[@allaboutcash439]

Life is too short to drive unreliable cars.

[@ECPP]

That’s true too

[@mickill2]

Honda reliability has dropped over the past few years,the 1.5ltr engine has issues Oil Dilution Problems Owners allege that model year 2019-2021 CR-V, Civic and 2018-2021 Accord vehicles are experiencing fuel contamination of the engine oil. Also known as crankcase dilution, it is a process where fuel is leaked into engine oil when it travels towards the crankcase.

[@SCraig-Handsome]

Yes… I have a 2020 CRV EX-L. 80K and no oil dilution issues. Runs better on high octane gas. Honda had an air/fuel mixture issue with the new turbo which they didn’t notice at first. My 2016 was the 2.4L non-turbo, but the Touring trim had the turbo, but not enough people bought it for them to notice an issue, it wasn’t until they rolled it out in a higher volume of cars. They were essentially cooling it too much to protect the engine getting too hot. Apparently a lot of US Drivers don’t go past 2,500 RPM

[@ck8048]

We have had mercs and bmw the BMW's are lot better without a doubt the mercs are like the Chinese made rubbish 4wd system crabbing which wear out tyres in 6 months diff humming never again if you want quality buy a BMW or a Lexus absolute awesome cars

[@ECPP]

Totally agree

[@johnf1441]

I came across this video trying to figure out the 2017 x3 with the 2.8 turbo 4 cylinder I found one super affordable ..I’m curious what your thoughts are of that vehicle be gentle lol I’m a family man I don’t need a race car lol and I wish I could drive a none boring care like yourself maybe one day 😂

[@jonnymadrid1]

I think BMW paid you to say this , It is the worst car on the planet , I have 2023 BMW X6M and it is worthless and I put it on sale to get rid of it .”I will never buy a BMW again “. If those idiots at BMW are listening,I was a diehard fan and had every model in the 80’s,90’s and early 2000 and now I have my revenge by not buying your cars.

[@ECPP]

Thanks for sharing. What sort of issues are you having?

[@jonnymadrid1]

@@ECPP electronics , poor gas mileage, poor fit and finish ( for such an expensive vehicle),low quality leather, rough ride and …….. Good Bye BMW ,,,,

[@TeXasDadBod]

Why do you think Toyota uses all BMW parts in the Supra 😅!

[@ECPP]

Well…..

[@neilquinn]

Are there any particular years you'd aim for w/ the 340i / B58? 2018 sufficient to play it safe giving them 3years to make tweaks? Newer is pretty expensive.

[@davepaturno4290]

I believe those made after Toyota's collaboration with BMW would be preferable. The Toyota GR Supra came out in late 2019 as a 2020.

[@neilquinn]

@@davepaturno4290 Right the next gen of it is probably even better, just more expensive. I still worry about the rest of the car, electronics, plastics in engine bay, etc though.

[@azmike3572]

They still use too many plastic parts (cheaper than steel) for smaller hoses, etc., which crack and/or leak over time due to engine-area heat.

[@TheOmei]

Everyone does.

[@gurp1116]

Like all domestics? 😂 like fiat?

[@matthewgrayson8]

Nothing more than Porsche or Mercedes’ uses

[@tego5370]

​​@@TheOmei everyone except Toyota and mazda. All the vehicles mentioned below Mercedes, Porsche and Domestic are all unreliable vehicles.

[@redlightning4857]

Agreed. Just about every german manufacturer uses plastic in their engine compartments. It’s to keep cost down so they can sell at a lower price point. If one manufacturer, say Audi, we’re to use all aluminum parts in their engine, their reliability would go up yes, but their car would be 3k more than the competitors, losing market. Since all of them use plastic, they’re all prone to failure. Solution: notice which parts are prone to failure and buy OEM+ aluminum parts👍

[@WREKLOC]

When i think of reliability i think of cars past 120k miles. Thats the bottom line i think every car should be able to go without any issues. If a car doesnt need major repairs from 120k to 300k miles, i consider that solid and reliable engine. I find it pointless when people brag about their cars being reliable and have less than 120k miles. I would hope you havent had problems! Thats practically new to me still! Just my opinion.

[@JoiceVaderd]

Facts. I owned a 2016 Malibu Limited LTZ for a little less than 3 years. Drove it from 60k miles to 160k miles and needed no major repairs. Got into an accident and my insurance deemed it totaled. They gave me $12k for it. I bought it for just under $11k. Have also owned a 2001 330i and currently a 2010 328i. My 330i was at 230k miles, when I sold it. I wish I didn't. Didn't do any major repairs on it, per se. It had a vacuum leak and I just replaced the entire CCV system just because everything was like $50. My 328i is at 210k miles. I drive it daily, unlike I did fro my 330i. Biggest repair I had to do was replace the ECU and engine harnesses. They got water damaged. Besides that, nothing major. Engine has been very solid. M54 and N52 treated me very well.

[@dcode1000]

there are many bmws that go past 120k just saying(i drive a 170k e46 325ci)

[@WREKLOC]

@@dcode1000 i was talking about any car in general.

[@Mario-tq9pi]

@@dcode1000 dude i drive a 2004 330ci zhp with 210000 on the dash perfectly fine lol

[@antwelacato7045]

2012 with 205,000 miles. It started giving me problems after 180,000 miles. Looking for a new car now.

[@laurat1129]

So the question is: Will you be buying a new BMW or wait-and-see? It would be interesting to compare reliability vs your new Toyota over the next few years.

[@r2dad282]

No, because I want another 328d wagon partly because of the 2.0L Diesel engine which has been a peach. Currently at 110K miles, will hold to 200K miles. I don't want a gas engine, an electric car/SUV. The UK gets new diesel wagons but I guess Americans aren't worthy.

[@henrytang2203]

BMW 1 and 3 series are pretty reliable for the first few years - my 135i was owned for 6 years and only needed an exhaust replacement under warranty and a new gasket cover ($400). But I won't buy a 5 series or above just yet.

[@GhezzyVids]

My 2018 X1 has had 0 problems with 52k miles. Just regular maintenance. I selected mine almost bare bones. No sunroof, no fancy extra packages. I figure the simpler it is, less things break down in the long run.

[@petewick8627]

2009: 335i- 115,000k zero problems. 2011: 335i-160,000k. Zero problems. 2014 Audi Q5 TDI- 320,000k. Zero problems

[@Maplecook]

"simpler it is, less things break down": You sound like like a true blue Toyota man. haha

[@steven5509]

@@Maplecook facts. Since he got an X1, he probably got it for the badge. Like at that price point, I’d rather get a fully loaded CX-5😭.

[@noobwow2009]

The problem is BMW engine has too much plastic components, which fail after 7-8 years. Unfortunately Honda 1.5T has relatively more plastic compared to the old 1.8L NA engine.

[@Brianuwu622]

52k miles is such a milestone🤣

[@neilquinn]

The b58 and trans look super appealing to me. While they are showing lots of reliability over the last 6 years or so, I'm still nervous to see what happens on years 7-12 or so. Looking at 340i's. I don't count newer models with high mileage either because lots of highway miles is VERY different than 7-10yrs of city driving + plastic and rubber degradation. The timing components on the back of the engine vs. front also feels scary.

[@PHenry-wn3li]

I've had both makes and I can say with certainty that BMW's newer than 2015 are much more reliable than Honda's. That's probably why Toyota is now using BMW engines in their most exclusive high-end models.

[@muffin4600]

Bmw engine is only used in the Supra, to my knowledge, and that's because the Supra is a reskinned z4

[@briank3754]

@@muffin4600 Its literally a Z4 with some design tweaks and some engine tuning.

[@muffin4600]

@@briank3754 yes. That's what I said

[@davepaturno4290]

​@@briank3754Not according to Car & Driver magazine writers. They stated that the GR (Gazoo Racing) Supra is a superior track car compared to the Z4, which is more of a grand touring car. So no, the Z4 is not a GR Supra that has been reskinned.

[@whereistheaccountability7353]

Last video I watched with this guy, he was complaining why he would never buy another BMW again. And he has many more videos stating how bad BMWs are using plastic parts. Now he’s comparing BMW reliability to Hondas. I am a BMW person and they are too unreliable and expensive for their cost. I wish it were different but that’s just BMWs current reality. Hondas styling generally suck but they are generally very reliable. BMW will need a decade or more of producing reliable cars before anyone should trust in their reliability or ownership.

[@mr.edwards.jackson79]

Toyota has started using their engines..enough said.

[@germanengineering204]

Facts

[@scottwinton-py9nd]

Ive owned 3bmw's 2014 328D never a single issue, then2017 m240i with the b58 engine, great car never in the shop for the 5-1/2 years i owned it, now have 2022 x3 3.0 owned for 18 months so far and no issues so far

[@jameskazanegras6270]

I had a 2006 Honda for 14 years. That’s nothing.

[@cp4512]

I’ve had a 2 high mileage BMWs over the last 5 years and they’ve both been brilliant. Just bought a new X1 and it’s superb. Fingers crossed it stays reliable 🤞

[@azmedz]

Right on my 2011, 328 I was super rocksolid. From 131K to 179K I basically i just replace the radiator which was cheap at Amazon and connecting hose that broke big deal. It was cheap everyone says expensive but really it was a Amazon and cheap. One of the best Cars I’ve ever owned better than my stupid 13 Cadillac CTS 73k. The GM has sensor issues everywhere. I never had a single sensor go out on my BMW.

[@2A5X4A]

@@azmedzn52 is reliable as fuck! And parts are real cheap for that car! I just upgraded from 2008 328i manual to a 2019 x5 40i, trying to learn about the b58 motor now!

[@ngw1976]

My family (based in Germany) has owned several Bimmers over the years - a 1999 E38 (imho the best looking 7 Series to date), a 2011 E84 (1st gen X1), a 2014 F25 (2nd gen X3), and a 2016 F48 (2nd gen X1). All had at least 150,000km on the clock, the E38 had 250,000km on the clock when we sold the respective vehicles. Never encountered any major problems, but we did all the required maintenance and some extra service e.g. changing the transmission oil every 80,000-100,000 km, which extended the lifespan of the respective transmissions. Providing the cars with all this service was not a cheap endeavour, though, as one can imagine, that's the downside of owning a Bimmer, sort of like having a very demanding girlfriend. 😐😉

[@kjhnsn7296]

Yes, even though BMW says its "lifetime", im looking to change out transmission oil and filter at 60k on my 535 as per ZF the maker of the transmission. Dealer wants $1200 to do this. Robbery. The kit including ZF fluid can be had for $300. Looking at other options.

[@chrislim7976]

Very demanding girlfriend indeed. You can't even just keep it in the garage. It will start needing attention just sitting there.

[@ngw1976]

​ @kjhnsn7296 We were lucky, my father was on good terms with one of our local BMW dealers and an independent garage owner in our neighbourhood, which meant we got acceptable discounts. 😁 I'm afraid 1,200$ is rather the norm for this kind of maintenance, last year I had a transmission fluid change done on my Audi SQ7 at an independent local garage, which set me back 1,100€. 😐

[@ngw1976]

​@@chrislim7976 But the Bimmers have given me more pleasure than any girlfriend I was together with. 😆

[@chrislim7976]

@@ngw1976 Unfortunately I have come to the same conclusion.

[@yakamofishing8267]

Been telling you I have had mine for a while they are reliable. Most people that have issues are buying old bmws that have been driven hard. O but I just traded in my x1 git 25k for it apparently they hold there value

[@ECPP]

Maintenance is so important

[@davidbasil6060]

Scotty would have a heart attack if he heard this😂

[@ECPP]

Ouch

[@khangkt1721]

Things will eventually change sooner or later. He just need to accept it :/

[@billnye5183]

2015 650i N63TU 98K miles and still outshines majority of everything on the road no issues but regular 5K oil changes 🤷🏾‍♂️ getting an m6 in a few years

[@ECPP]

That’s good news for sure

[@abriyahyasha-rahla2656]

SWEET ❣️

[@mohammedalaskary342]

I'm sticking with Japanese forever. All my cars have 17 years old atleast. I attempted top speed on almost all of them. Drifted when I could etc etc. My least reliable was my 350z it did 240km/h and was still pushing. I like German but with this economy I really don't see what's so special. If I get a sedan than maybe I'll consider a 335i if I can't find a Japanese equivalent.

[@davepaturno4290]

Get a GR Supra with B58. I did, and I love it.

[@mohammedalaskary342]

@@davepaturno4290 in a couple of years when the price drops Z or supra might be a good idea 💡 Otherwise I'm happy with something a bit older.

[@davepaturno4290]

@@mohammedalaskary342 Unfortunately, many new Supra buyers ignore the breakin requirement, potentially leading to higher oil consumption. That's why I bought my car, new.

[@marlonsalds2228]

I had my BMW, the only issue is signal light won't function sometimes 😏

[@oozie1795]

whats a signal light

[@Krakondack]

Hang on a second - Consumer Reports rates cars that are fairly new. You need to see the 10+ year old ones, with 150,000 miles holding up, before making that kind of claim.

[@mr.edwards.jackson79]

True..which is what gave toyota and honda their reputation...

[@Krakondack]

@@mr.edwards.jackson79 exactly. It takes a long time to earn, or regain, a good reputation in car manufacturing.

[@Niles-Guy]

I rely upon advice of actual mechanics who have to work on cars. Everyone of them from all walks of life have stated to me BMW is extremely unreliable and prone to frequent breakdowns and expensive to repair . Stay away from them is what was told . No way on long term is BMW just as good as a Honda. Straight up Bologne Sandwich

[@anjdog2003]

I leased a brand new 2019 Honda Accord, you know car of the year. The air compressor went out after 5k miles.

[@andreajackson5293]

Awesome to hear! I plan on pushing one in the next 2 years!

[@marlonjeffers5269]

BMW more reliable than HONDA!? Now that is a laughable statement. HONDA to date have sold the most engines in the world, beating all automotive makers hands down.

[@markkrispin6944]

I agree. Very laughable indeed. BMW still has a long way to go as for being reliable in every model they have

[@germanengineering204]

You know better than the people testing them, JD power, and consumer reports lol! You must be a genius, and just know it all!😆🤡

[@richboutin4044]

@@germanengineering204 it’s pretty well known that JD power awards are bought, not earned. And consumer reports is the laughing stock of the auto review world.

[@ontarioman6301]

The 1.5 turbo engine from Honda has oil dilution problem. 2019 to 2021

[@markkrispin6944]

@@ontarioman6301 that is true, but Honda corrected that problem

[@neotemana]

Though the B58 is super reliable, I still smell something fishy about that high reliability ranking

[@tego5370]

I agree. The auto issue this year still have realibity as average

[@velvetblue2285]

The B58 and S58 both engines they are incorporating in a lot of their cars/suv's right now.

[@E.Z.Walker3693]

After seven years then I’ll start believing

[@neotemana]

@@E.Z.Walker3693 Exactly!...We have yet to see proper high mileage examples

[@velvetblue2285]

@@neotemana there are many high mileage B58 engines as it is on a lot of their cars especially since 2016. Toyota even put that I6 in their new Supra and if Toyota did that then they know the potential of that engine which is reliable. But regardless you can see the stats of that engine and how amazing it is. Until you try and put extra crazy horsepower on it yeah you may need to replace parts on them especially better parts which is what what goes for any engine since it was made for a specific area but a STOCK engine is all around amazing.

[@thelight3062]

BMW is indeed very reliable and high-performing, especially at the time when they need to quite F1.

[@ECPP]

Cheers

[@ShashankKatiyar0]

BMW boss to engineers: What is this reliability BS I am hearing about us? BMW Marketing: Oh, that's because we are going subscription model. BMW boss: I am so proud of you boys.

[@vintagetriplex3728]

Reliability or not, Hondas are boring.

[@majood245]

Yes Hondas are boring and can last over a hundreds a thousands of kilometers and it doesn’t break much On the other hand BMW are excited cars and endless money pits as they age and more problems and more expensive to repair and so excited to break down frequently 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@vintagetriplex3728]

@@majood245 they are unreliable to you just cause they cost more to maintain and you average joes can't afford them. I've seen BMWs last 200k miles and more. They just require more preventative maintenance. But regardless, I'll never be in a Honda again. They don't look appealing, they are slow and they understeer.

[@germanengineering204]

​@@vintagetriplex3728 clueless people just don't get It! Times have changed lol!

[@booblam6919]

They said the same thing about Toyota

[@eye-g3485]

I own a 2015 Lexus ES 350 that has 210K mikes and runs like new . Mostly freeway but still . Changed transmission fluid 4 times and breaks 3 times and oil every 5000 miles and coolant one time nothing else never seen a leak . I still have original spark plugs inside . 2grfe by Toyota is hands down the most reliable engine ever .

[@Guivalv]

Are those miles or KM?

[@ArielAlvarez-f8w]

The same spark plugs after 210.000 miles. I dont believe it

[@sunshadow9704]

But its Lexus. Boring, not sticking to the road, soft, body rolls. Outdated tech. Nothing comes even close to German’s vehicles. 🚗

[@anjdog2003]

With zero excitement driving it.

[@ryans3552]

After warranty, that’s when problems start, I reckon. If you have the funds or you do your own maintenance, you’ll be fine. But for us peasants who can’t DIY these engines, it will be a big money waster in the long run. 😆

[@venc3907]

Yes let’s go BMW fan boys love this content. Me being one😂

[@abovethecage422]

The BMW’s that do last are usually well kept, driven by a more mature group, and wasn’t breaking 120mph on a daily basis.

[@chiefearnest1450]

Well said, thank you!

[@bimsetre]

If you drive a BMW as you would drive a Toyota/Lexus, the BMW would outlast the T/L easily, especially when rust is regarded. And in the mean time you would enjoy very nice electronics, brakes that will never let you down, engines as smooth as lambswool, handling second to none, interior quality beyond the most, and on top "Freude beim fahren". ZF transmissions are unsurpassed, and have always been so. ZF = Zahnrad Fabrik. T/L has always been a "Near Death Experience", therefor T/L owners drive slowly or stay home. At least that´s what seems to be in my country.

[@germanengineering204]

People that haven't owned one just don't get how great these cars get down the road!👍

[@Selector21]

@@germanengineering204 most people commenting here can't afford (or don't want to pay) BMW maintenance prices. They just want to drive it for 300,000 miles (yep, there's a guy in comments who said if an engine can't run for 300k miles without issues, it's not reliable) like a Camry and expect nothing to ever break. And it'd be ok... but you see, Honda/Toyota owners always feel like their opinion re: BMW/Porsche/MB/Audi means so much they MUST express it :)

[@germanengineering204]

@@Selector21 I forgot my audience at times, and have to remember I'm commenting on KZbin!😄

[@dcruzaggie]

B58 💪🏾

[@Kwaminho]

Fantastic engine! ✊🏾

[@DMCarReviews]

When Toyota uses a BMW engine for their sports car, you know BMW nailed it💪

[@ECPP]

It certainly inspires a little confidence.

[@tyleraguilar2474]

As he said at the start of the summer. Life is too short to drive boring cars. So keep your Toyota and Lexus and I will enjoy my life and plan just in case of a issue the same way I would with any one other car

[@johnsambo9379]

Had a Honda Civic 2016. Hated it. The touch screen constantly blinked and the brakes sucked

[@ibrahimalmotawa967]

I don't believe BMW at all they are lies. They are still using plastic for engine that's mean still had same issues.

[@dmanatan]

Reliability and dependability are based on all problems. It doesn’t rank order the severity and potential cost of those problems. My Honda can have three problems for every one problem that my Porsche has but it doesn’t matter if the one Porsche problem costs more than my three Honda problems.

[@tupapisoyyo676]

Id like to give an update on my 19 x7 x40i. No issues whatsoever on engine.only 2 issues so far have been transfer case issue having bad fluid from factory and headunit faulty. Other than that,its been a beauty. Hope this helps any x7 owners out there 😊😊

[@youngmonaco2039]

My dad has a 2014 428 and it has given him zero problems. It has about 100k on it.

[@Priestitude]

I bought a Honda CRV and the fuel pump failed me 4 times - towed to workshop and stranded in my workplace. Fk honda, sold it and go BMWins.

[@ECPP]

Th yea have had issues like that plus weak trannies

[@nikospapageorgiou1636]

In Greece with a population of about 10M during 2022 Toyota sold 14.000 cars, BMW+MINI about 7.000 and Honda only 300 cars ! Honda is out of market with their new ultra expensive hybrid models.

[@ECPP]

Thanks for sharing. Yes cars are getting way too pricey

[@labornurse]

He probably daily drives a BMW, so wishful thinking.

[@azmedz]

My 328i with the none turbo 3.0 was rock solid and it was 12 years old with 179k before it was stolen: the only thing I did, in 50,000 miles from 131 to 179 was replace the radiator because It did crack. It was old and a hose connected to the radiator. Since then I’ve got a 2013 Cadillac CTS with 73k it is generally a piece of shit with GM sensor failure everywhere. My BMW has not one single sensor from 2011 before the n20 was rock solid.

[@azmedz]

And by the way, everyone says their pipes and hoses are expensive, but I went to Amazon and they were generally cheap. Maybe not as cheap as my Dodge charger but those are generally just garbage anyways, of course everything on a dodge chargers cheap because it’s crap.

[@AvengerAngel]

Re-engineering to address the issue with plastics is an admirable step by BMW. Almost all new vehicles are using more plastics for fuel economy (and cost cutting in production), so no fault of BMW applying EPA standards. The last BMW we owned was a 2017 330i, we bought new and was rear-ended so rather than suffer diminished value, we traded it in. Sorry folks, but I like the new grill design on BMW's.

[@germanengineering204]

BMW reliability, and build quality has gotten a lot better! Hopefully people will see they are a different breed nowadays!

[@thisisCHOPZZ]

New grill reminds me of a pig's snout 😅 but perhaps it'll grow on me over time

[@madhunter6420]

doesnt look like bmw anymore

[@hyuggie]

thanks BMW rep

[@germanengineering204]

@@hyuggie Welcome! BMW ranked number 1 in consumer reports out of all brands again this year! Spectacular cars buy one if you can!!😄

[@davidholmes1771]

Massive knowledge drop by Mark, here today. My guy drops it like its Hot. Make no mistake. I Love it when this man gets to Speaking on bimmers.

[@lukewalker1051]

Thanks for being the messenger on automobile reliability. The public is grossly ignorant about automobiles in part because they are wealthy enough to not have to be knowledgeable. If you own an aging BMW out of warranty, better have an uncle or brother who is a BMW tech or there goes little Johnny's college fund. One thing you stated in your video which resonates with me an automotive engineer is...the more complex the vehicle aka higher end BMW's with greater engine and driveline complexity, the more failures you will have. In engineering parlance this is called reliability cost. A radio knob will always be more reliable than a Rolex mechanical movement which is highly engineered. Probability of failure is proportional to number of moving parts. Keep up the good work.

[@ECPP]

100 percent and thank you very much for the great comment. Hope you have a great weekend.

[@BlitzGeist]

Considering Toyota teamed up with BMW on the B58 engine, I'm not surprised at all with its high reliability. I absolutely love my 2022 X6 w/B58.

[@chiefr31]

BMW is still up to the same BS a car lasting till its just out of warranty. We are paying upwards of 50k-100k for cars that cannot last 5 years! Im over it. I will not buy another. Im heading over to Lexus.

[@ECPP]

Sounds like a bad experience. Which model did you drive?

[@chiefr31]

My first was a 525xi and now I’m in an X5 both have been headaches. While the Camry I purchased in 08 ran up to 300k miles with not one leak or major repair. Seems like paying a premium price buys premium problems

[@JRZ67]

We are picking up my wife’s ‘23 X3 today! She bought the 7 year 100k extended warranty because she keeps her cars till they die. Crossing my fingers on the reliability based on this model’s high reliability in recent years. I also just bought a certified ‘22 330i XDrive.

[@mikelowry5012]

Congratulations!

[@SavageBunny1]

Congrats, but to be honest, BMW's like to break down after 10 years, mileage doesn't really matter, if you drive 300k miles in 5 years, they usually don't break, it's age that kills them.

[@SABRTNDX1]

Did she get the x30i or the M40i?

[@tonyfontana8222]

My wife has a 2021 X3 hopefully last for at least ten years!

[@JRZ67]

@@SABRTNDX1 x30i with the M Sport package.

[@stevesoto6731]

Better reliability than a Honda is b.s ,that chart was paid bye Berlin.

[@scott331]

Answer: When BMW designed the Toyota Supra, Toyota tested the B58 motor and found a few flaws in reliability, they shared their findings and BMW then started replicating the same to all other engines. Answered 😊

[@germanengineering204]

B58 was better than anything Toyota could create on their own lol! Toyota got the best engine in the current market end of story!😄🤡

[@rousseau327]

@@germanengineering204 Now that's a silly comment, considering the vast number of incredible engines from Toyota in the past decades, from previous Supras, F car V8s, LFAs. Come on, you gotta try harder.

[@germanengineering204]

@@rousseau327 I just feel the B58 is an incredible engine, and sick of the hate from people that don't understand this level of refinement, smooth power delivery, and even excellent fuel economy., Also capable of huge power gains with simple mods! Enough said!

[@germanengineering204]

@@rousseau327this channel has a lot of kids, and people not that well off constantly complaining about BMW's all the time! Not sure I should bother returning to the nonsense I constantly read in these comments lmao!

[@anjdog2003]

I have a 2021 M235 what a great car.

[@benjaminvmarder6519]

I went with IS over 3series (CPO) because I still question long term reliability. Now leasing is a totally different animal

[@smarty432]

But if BMW does not lower the repair and maintenance costs that are infamous for their brand, I will forever stick with the Japanese brands that will not break the bank in the long term.

[@ECPP]

That’s fair

[@Tyler-b7j6h]

There are more and more Euro specific mechanics popping up. The issue is a lot of the euro brands require so much training and knowledge a lot of places don’t want to do it. As more companies realize there is a market for it more will start popping up

[@ahmadalghunaim2467]

i have an n54 335is for more than 10 years. pushing +150 extra hp making it around 470 hp and to be honest i have not get any issues with the engine just a leak in the radiator it is truly one of the most underrated engine with serious cappability to modification but with remember with great power comes great responsibility

[@lightsfansofthewest481]

The N54 was one of BMW's most problematic engines they ever made. Either you overmaintain yours, or you got extremely lucky.

[@drewk8601]

Would be interested to hear your take on the new S68 engine vs the N63 TU3 / S63, especially with the change to electronic VANOS

[@ECPP]

That is a great conversation and for another videonindeed

[@chriscoffman8340]

73k miles on my 2018 540i with the B58. No issues so far and it’s a blast to drive.

[@yousefa4573]

I have the same and it’s amazing engine. I have only 30k miles with no issues at all.

[@bhavyajain2427]

How much did it cost u back in 2018 (after all taxes and insurance)?

[@bhavyajain2427]

@@yousefa4573 how much did that car cost u??

[@yousefa4573]

@@bhavyajain2427 70k US dollar

[@livinglegacy8429]

@@salvationbygracethroughfaiththat doesn’t sound like grace or faith.

[@livinglegacy8429]

Hey comment section What is the oldest bmw would you get? This video convinced me to get the B58 but is a 2016 B58 worth it or is he just referring to 2020+ BMWs?

[@zanelancaster2007]

I used to own a Toyota LandCruiser Prado from 2014. The paint came off in sheets and the frame started to rust at an alarming rate! I now don't own a car because I am saving up for an F30 320i from 2017.

[@stephenlozano2816]

I’ve had my 2015 M235i N55 for 8 years and the only issue I’ve had was the trunk locking mechanism went out. I bought one from ECS Tuning for around $180.00 and replaced it myself. You do need to keep an eye on the plastic parts under the hood though. I replaced my coolant expansion hose around 45k miles as preventative maintenance because I knew they were prone to breakage.

[@tigerstorm2248]

Just curious, and to get some real world data out here, roughly what did the coolant expansion hose replacement run?

[@prettytraveller7196]

Can you fix mine too?

[@johnp4248]

The problem is people that are buying these cars can’t afford it or even maintaining it, 1: buying it from a private person, 2: having the wrong mechanic, 3: have no common sense of maintaining basic maintenance such as oil change, coolant flush etc and there the first to post bmws are crap!! lol 😂. I am not a fan of bmws v8s inline six is the way to go.

[@cheezybread7783]

can u actually get metal parts for most of the plastic crap for BMW??

[@stephenlozano2816]

@@cheezybread7783 you can find aftermarket parts to replace most of the brittle plastic parts that are prone to breakage, such as the charge pipe and a lot of the turbo & intercooler piping.

[@pb3]

The 128i is bulletproof pretty much , speaking from personal experience

[@lion3014]

It sucks that the 640i didn’t get the b58 treatment

[@livinglegacy8429]

Factssss that's why I'm looking at the 440i GC since the 640i GC isn't reliable

[@johnp4248]

No doubt 🎉, for a high end luxury car that have the reliability as the Japanese which now Toyota supras are Bmws which you get the best of both world: styling, technology, luxury, performance and reliability you can’t argue that. Personally I would rather the b58 engines over the 4 and 8 cylinder which I think Bmws inline six are second to Porsche.

[@SCraig-Handsome]

BMW is very practical too… not just for the luxury car buyers

[@abdellkinaniassign3014]

Ahhh ,I am truck driver .I see BRAND NEW BMW AND MERCEDES on the side off interstates everyday. .sometimes 15 years honda whith flat tire

[@chrisa1844]

💯The Best unbiase Review about Bmw hands down with great levels of detail i have every heard. 👍 Great Job brother 👏 You just increased their sales and customer Confidence.....Bmw should pay you for this segment 🤗. Thank you Btw, i have owned several 18, Bmw's from 1995-740il to 2006-650i and now my 💥2012 535i Msport still looks and drives like new with 300k miles on it. Carbon Black w cinnamon red. Great cars....✅The best Car.

[@livinglegacy8429]

I was thinking of getting a 2015 535i Xdrive. What are some tips for maintenance and to keep running as long as you did?

[@elonmusk8667]

I still wouldn’t get one

[@Hahahahadavee]

Should i get bmw 440i 2017 or s5 2017 can’t decide between both of these cars , my priority is reliability fun and social status also drive on uk weather

[@nycupperes]

Definitely the 440i with the B58 will be reliable and fast. I have a 430xi convertible with the B48 and it gets significantly better MPG (27 to 28) than my 740 (22 mpg).

[@HyperVegitoDBZ]

Comparing BMW and Honda isn't even worth it. For what the germans want for average BMW you could buy 2 fully geared honda's often. But the cutting costs with plastic under the hood, never ended.

[@jim2950]

Honda since the 1990's cheaped their cars to the point they are unreliable. My 1997 Honda Del Sol Si has 215,000 miles. I am the original owner. The car is very reliable. In my opinion the Honda The Civic on which my car is based has been horribly cheapened. I have a single overhead Vtec motor with multipoint fuel injection. My car has double wishbone suspension front and rear. with front and rear sway bars. My car has a five-speed manual transmission. My var weighs 2400 pounds. The car is small so it is easy to park and is very maneuverable. Todays Civic is a four door medium car. It has a turbocharged motor. Which stresses the motor. it won't last even 100,000 miles, forget 200,000 miles. It has direct fuel injections which have caused massive problems. Honda has copied BMW in using plastic in the motors. The valve cover is plastic, internal parts are plastic. Hose connectors are plastic. After 5 or six years all this plastic gets brittle due to the heat of the engine. The parts crack break and fail. All the cheapening of the Civic and other Honda cars will show up soon. I do not think Sochiro Honda would be happy.

[@Opium64]

All brands that switched to turbos even Toyota is less reliable

[@ECPP]

It takes a toll

[@shotimethecomedian]

BMW clickbait is always reliable for KZbin car reviewers!

[@ECPP]

Sometimes, but its legit

[@Kenny-bj2zq]

BMW = Bring Me your Wallet $$$....repair bills.........:(

[@ECPP]

Yes

[@mikefoehr235]

I just watched TRUCK KING and they reviewed a $170 000 CAD RANGE ROVER...it is powered by the TT 4.4 L V8 made by BMW. Now that is the marriage of two super unreliable brands. If I had to choose between BMW and Honda...I would take a Honda. BMWs are too expensive to maintain. Honda is much more affordable.

[@JXiong-zo8ig]

2020+ bmw are absolutely reliable 3 series that is

[@ECPP]

Better with the turbo 4 and 6 engines