ETHICAL ISSUES CLONING The island

[@jamiete-whau595]

3:24 - 3:29 “You’re like the replacement engines on their Bentley’s. They’re not gonna care. They don’t care. They’re gonna care?!” Mack outlines human nature here in one go.

[@completebilingual]

My favorite line is when the original Lincoln calls up the cloning company and exclaims, Tell me what my insurance is doing sitting on my f-ing sofa! So heartless. So real.

[@mattstorm360]

I would be pissed too if i was told my insurance is a vegetable floating in the facility. Waiting for me to need a new heart and then find it breaking into my house.

[@completebilingual]

@@mattstorm360 Yeah, but those clones have souls.

[@goddessmanbo5374]

“Just because people get the burger doesn’t mean they want to meet the cow”

[@tomedy_official]

That's very true, a very good reason why no one Suspects.

[@aligmal5031]

except ppl do meet the cow and they don't care cause that burger is tasty

[@jackdull5699]

I like that Steve Beusemi's character is keeping it real, even though he's talking to a couple of clones.

[@mojoriley4712]

Steve Buscemi cracks me the hell up in this profound scene

[@zirkalda9502]

This is the kind of movie that, if it was a book, would be required reading material in colleges and high schools for humanities and ethics courses. Heck, I HAD a professor who used clips from this movie in several lectures.

[@marvelfan2.059]

Well he must've been a cool professor then. From what you have just told.

[@CC-mq7ei]

My ethics teacher is making us watch this movie

[@HeIsAnAli]

The part where Khrushchev tells Obi-Wan and Black Widow they're clones.

[@ethaneveraldo]

One issue with this movie is it spreads the false idea that clones aren’t humans or real people. In fact chances are you’ve met a few clones in real life, that’s what twins are. Their DNA is identical. What’s important to keep in mind is there’s a lot more to a person than just their DNA.

[@marvelfan2.059]

I rember watching this the first time when I was a teen back in School. I was probably 14 to 15 watching this for the first time. It was my first taste or learning about how greed and materialism can at times be bad. There are two types of greed, positive greed and negative greed. And with what I saw in this film, really shows the latter`s a lot.

[@stefanopau4063]

One of my favourite scenes ever... Steve Buscemi is SO great!

[@stephiandsweet-ish_skyler8142]

Best cloneing movie ever so real cause this is happening rn i kn

[@cameronohare4000]

How do you know

[@Dmoskians]

I like the movie but the comment section to each vid if filled with fried conspiracy theorists... jesus.

[@R.Lennartz]

@Cian MacGana Yeah because nobody has ever lived to that age naturally, sure dude. My great-grandma was 92 when she died, and she wasn't the Queen of anything, she didn't have access to the best medical care in the world and still she lived that long.

[@Dammlee]

@@R.Lennartz my great grandmother died at age 98, just a few years back, so yeah

[@tutin4090]

Lmao if you say so Stephi on KZbin

[@richardjackson9584]

I love this movie. idk why it's so low on rotten tomatoes...

[@curlyhairdudeify]

The movie is for intellectuals, and not for Marvel dummies.

[@spirittammyk]

@@curlyhairdudeify It's because Michael Bay directed it, and for some reason the critics loath Michael Bay.

[@Veritech2011]

Probably because this movie stole its plot from Parts: The Clonus Horror; Never heard of it? Go watch it, Mystery Science Theater 3000 riffed on it a long time ago.

[@SecretAsianManOO7]

predictive programming, maybe it exposes something about our world too. One thing this movie brings up is organ harvesting... it can be unsettling because the person must be living when the organ is harvested, it's not just in movies. I think a lot of movies that get you to think about the world, even in the form of a parable or analogy, get rotten tomatoes just so people distract themselves with something else. An unthinking population makes iniquity profitable***.

[@andywatson7994]

I really enjoyed this movie!!!!!!!!! I think Steve Bushemi (spell?) had the best lines.

[@rogelioproa559]

+Andy Watson steve buscemi

[@markusschultz4637]

steve busashimi

[@RsNutella]

If there was 12 differents stories for their past, wouldn't they talk with eachother about their memories and find out they have the same story which would set an alarm that something is wrong?

[@sidearmsalpha]

Their education is limited so they probably don't question it very much. Plus, the guards that patrol the facility where they are break up any acts of disobedience or resistance immediately. Lincoln is the main one that really starts to question what's going on and rebels. He manages to escape and takes Jordan with him.

[@Dmoskians]

@@sidearmsalpha Well the stories are switched around but he has a point. People relate alot through memory for commonalities and to relate to one another. So those guards would be getting paid a fortune if they have to seperate people before they get into in depth conversation. For the record i don't think they do. They seem to have only chimed in when they notice the clones getting intimate or having emotional outbursts. They keep them busy so they probably don't get to go that deep.

[@aliancer]

They don't... until Echo generation "messed it up"

[@DrumToTheBassWoop]

Greed & Materialism seems to be biggest pandemic to humanity's progress of enlightenment 😐

[@MrJustonemorevoice]

And oddly enough, a potent catalyst

[@MikeKollin]

Remember that Massive Airline that went Missing in Indonesia... the black box suddenly turned off magically! And they couldn't find any debris? Because it was rerouted to another place. Body Parts People! Body Parts!

[@bindmedia2852]

This was one of the better parts of the movie.

[@WolfofKaos]

Not gonna lie, this scene, and Mac's character as a whole, made me a fan of Steven Buscemi. One of his most underrated roles And whenever I think of this scene, I always recall a bit of Roger Ebert's review of the movie as written on Wikipedia, wherein one of his few critiques was how the movie how it "didn't use the future to criticize the present". But does this scene not demonstrate that, with everything Mack explained? Sure, yeah, the rich and elite aren't using clones to keep themselves alive and healthy. But there's no doubt that the moment cloning is perfected, the ultra-rich will have clones of themselves created in order to have replacement parts for themselves (usually a consequence of their lavish lifestyle), or even just to look younger, and the only thing they'll care about is the legal ramifications for taking part in this sort of practice. And people like Merrick would take advantage of that drive to make themselves even richer and powerful, no matter the ethical and moral costs. But even then, this sort of thing is something many rich and powerful have done and still do to this day; doing the most unethical shit to get one step ahead of everyone else. And just as Mac said, the only thing the rich care about is the legal ramifications and worldwide backlash they'd receive; otherwise, they wouldn't give a shit about something they otherwise benefit from, no matter the suffering it brings to others

[@kristynbramble2657]

Yeah this is something the spiritual con artists should watch.

[@XRPXLM]

The devil is in the details

[@callofdutyguy9]

Reminds me of Blade Runner replicants .

[@AlexSmith-fs6ro]

He delivers the lines perfectly.

[@malibustacy3606]

There should have been at least a hundred Sarah Jordan copies...I mean I may be old but I'm not blind.

[@a.demifemiflapo5795]

Who's watching a film set in 2019 in 2019 😂

[@KeltonTitan]

Oh my God! The movie set in 2019? I better watch it soon.

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

2021

[@Dmoskians]

I've been watching it every year since 2016/2017

[@a.demifemiflapo5795]

@@Dmoskians I first saw it in 2006

[@MikeKollin]

This would freak me out....

[@jonathangreen2064]

vrill project exsist and they just showed ya the truth through their majic in movie making GOD WILL HAVE THE LAST LAUGH

[@waspanimations7037]

Ok

[@thec5875]

God will definitely have the last laugh Amen

[@geoboy700]

@@thec5875how so?

[@TheKal1f]

simple and clear

[@khloegl7051]

Anyone have a link to the full movie ?

[@tomedy_official]

You can rent off KZbin

[@Tianarobegege]

2025 future time line

[@jonathanlippe]

Re-watch the scene as if Steve Buschemi is explaining reality to us -- that we are the clones.

[@kilroy987]

I'm sure many of us would love to think this life is some mistake concocted by people given too much control by people who have no control. But it's the real thing. No dress rehearsal. Everyone has a common line of humanity they want to go on, a heartsong they want to answer. What will you do with your time? We can't waste our time thinking someone will come along and clean things up to make things easier for us so we can have the real life again - or even entertain that notion to show certain others we refuse to make a decision for a while.

[@Sk8boardpsych0]

@@kilroy987 How was that response relevant to his comment?

[@kilroy987]

Someone wants us to think we're the clones so they can be the ones with the minds. We have a choice. You can ruminate in your room and live in movie magic, or walk your line.

[@tomedy_official]

Live forever, you mean cheating death.

[@Tianarobegege]

Future 2024

[@jonathanrice352]

July 19th 2019 is coming up which the time period for this movie

[@Dead-Ball-Situation]

Does anyone here believe that clones of people are actually being made in real life?

[@kumarinayakaratne5451]

Yes... read Donald Marshall

[@tomedy_official]

Well they're trying but they've had so many failures, but you want to know the real truth. Instead of clothing people they will kidnap innocent bystanders and take their organs. Why do you think so many people go missing and never found. When you have enough money you could almost get away with anything.

[@waspanimations7037]

They could exist be but not for this

[@scholaroftheworldalternatehist]

No. They do harvest organs in China, North Korea and a few other countries to sell on black market.

[@ladyelainefairchilde4632]

No Santa ? 😢

[@victorsalisbury3554]

Thanks mac don't want look like live jar

[@davidlohan1675]

Happening right now

[@Tianarobegege]

🐈😺

[@nyerus]

What year did this movie come out? I searched The Island but I'm not about to find this movie. Please help?

[@MarkyMarc89]

This was released in 2005

[@Tianarobegege]

🐈

[@cryptobagz]

Bellow ground is Area__ ???

[@Tianarobegege]

2025 eco jenracein

[@echoskelet]

I kept looking for the movie but i forgot the name of it.

[@Tianarobegege]

Clone

[@haamishmcgarry]

We are all clones

[@Tianarobegege]

What are

[@--ag]

I haven't seen this movie

[@atrealdino6667]

🙈🙉🙊

[@medalgear654]

the only good movie Micahel Bay has done

[@juliakamman]

2020~ buscemi’s character is Martin #FlatEarthBritish

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

they dont care! theyre gonna care? lmfao

[@petealwayslovesu]

brave new world any1?

[@lisaroberge9344]

Shode up

[@Tianarobegege]

?

[@emilienmideze9643]

Cours d’anglais tu connais mdr

[@austriantruther485]

2019!

[@lisaroberge9344]

Sad 3 lives

[@johnivanoplimo5172]

I'd love to have a Scarlet clone, pre-surgery. For those cold, lonely nights, among other things. Nah, just kidding, people. This movie is disgusting, in a way. >:(

[@nirvarene25us]

Sheesh

[@tarden132]

🤣🤣🤣

[@aliancer]

6 Echo means he already died maybe 4 times in 3 years, 6 million worthy 2 Delta means she already died maybe 3 times in 4 years, 2 million worthy Man... female is surely meant to live longer i guess...

[@aliancer]

Oh wait nvm, i just realized after watching the whole movie that 6 means california and 2 means seattle

[@lisaroberge9344]

Same

[@lisaroberge9344]

Cooking

[@lisaroberge9344]

Clon

[@CJ-tr4gl]

yes

[@zeus-odinchiefs6737]

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[@user-yb1sp4ih8k]

@@CJ-tr4gl lmao

[@lisaroberge9344]

Live

[@lisaroberge9344]

What are we

[@lisaroberge9344]

What way

[@lisaroberge9344]

Like me

[@lisaroberge9344]

It never happened bike

[@lisaroberge9344]

Hashtd

[@lisaroberge9344]

I have a mother

[@manuelemariani8188]

Stop eating and mutilaning ANIMALS

[@olegd3860]

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