Ed Sheeran plays guitar on the stand in his copyright trial

[@ThatFaceMelter94]

Imagine if rappers started suing each other for having similar beats. It would kill the genre.

[@tre43210]

The genre is already dead millennial

[@abc123fhdi]

rappers sample other music all the time and don't get permission.

[@jae6220]

@@abc123fhdi they get sued too

[@titan8084]

@@tre43210 My G, do you live under a cave?

[@tre43210]

@@titan8084 no I live in new york the birthplace of hip hop moron

[@davidleo9612]

You can’t copyright a widely used progression of chords. It would stifle creativity in the music industry.

[@whydopeoplealwayssayuhm]

imagine if paint artists began to sue others at this level for using colors and brush strokes in similar ways(chords/progression/styles) art is art. whats to come has come already.

[@napoleonmoscosa9353]

Agree, not only the most common but no copyright all chord progressions. These are basic musical tools and limited depends on what mood you want for your music

[@kennetharvinrodriguez]

The plaintiffs don't know anything about creating music. They're just after the money.

[@iMatti00]

🖼🎼 ~ I don’t know anything about music but an example that came to my mind is a painting. If one person paints a landscape can you copyright that picture for every other landscape created around the world? Or same thing with a portrait of a human. But that’s take it a step further, if you use the color green in your painting of a person based on their clothes, can nobody else use the color green in any type of painting even on a completely different subject? Just because you use green because someone was wearing a green coat, now nobody else can paint a painting of a greenhouse or the grass? And I say this because, As I remember, there’s only 12 individual notes that are mixed up in different orders to make songs. Well there’s not many more than 12 individual colors.f

[@alexkibe4179]

Do you play music??

[@varminttank]

I’m a musician. I have played guitar for over 20 years . And I can tell you that I can use the same 4 chords to play over 30 different songs. There’s only so many chords you can play . So you got to be creative with the rhythm

[@easypeasy2938]

The lawsuit isnt about the chord progression its about the arrangement. Same bpm. Lifted 1/2 step. Bass, drums and pads are almost identical. Sheeran's a goner

[@simonjames1604]

@@easypeasy2938 he has also stupidly sang lets get it on live in the middle of thinking out loud more than once, he basically invited this lawsuit and is going to have a hard time winning .

[@davis70140]

Im shock little richard family ain't suing many music artist listen to little richard songs your see how many music artist have stolen from him elvis presly stole from little richard and when little richard finely met elvis he wrote little richard a check and little richard went whooo I love elvis he's so sweet and went shut up when interviewed about it also marven gay stole from little richard compare the songs

[@user-dm1sq5hk6w]

@@easypeasy2938 it’s a common Motown drum beat. It was around before Marvin Gaye’s song. So, who’s copying

[@o_m8717]

​@@simonjames1604 Is there something wrong with singing the song? And how does singing the song correlate with the lawsuit?

[@Celtilad]

My mother is a musician and growing up she always said as long as you learn these 4 Chords you can pretty much play anything. These people are reaching and quite sad.

[@jilpok1074]

Yes. But… one of the way intellectual property monetizes is through infringement (and subsequent lawsuits). They are just doing what they right to do. People who don’t have a whole lot of $ are not going to be getting sued because they target people who have have had great success monetizing their intellectual property.

[@thomasdickson35]

@@jilpok1074 Do you mean that it's only worth suing rich people for copying music or that sucessful people are worth suing because they have money?

[@jilpok1074]

@@thomasdickson35 Both. If you have someone that capitalized on your idea but they are broke, there is little point in suing unless you like wasting money. They won’t be able to pay out once you win your case. And if they have money, but didn’t make much money using your idea then there is also little reason to sue since since your claim is not very large and you won’t be able to get your hands on their money. You want someone with money that was successful making a lot of money on your idea for a lawsuit to be worth it.

[@PTRRanger951]

Axis of Awesome - Four Chord Song.

[@anthonydalebarroga]

I’m a musician. Those chords are very common among chord progressions. It’s up to you how to create a certain melody or rhythm to it.

[@mlmbeliever]

I said the same thing about chords as a nonprofessional musician. I remember when Prince put an arpeggio prominently throughout a song. I thought he was a brilliant musician!

[@daviddreyton8586]

@@P.90.603 Van Morrison- crazy love: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXrEfKxnq7JsntU Eric Clapton- Easy Now: kzbin.info/www/bejne/paO5h4yij5iijck Wii Golf Menu: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXjUlnuHrrCsaMk To name just three Also it's worth pointing out that Ed Townsend's estate's lawyers don't even believe in their own BS Arguments otherwise they'd be paying for this songs use: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6qUmJmPmNWLd5Y to these artists: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHvGeJxqYtOSj9k/

[@JohnStockton7459]

You're not a musician, you're a wanna be. I actually am one

[@AishawithanEye]

I looked up the chords: D, G, A.... literally the most used chords in all of music history.

[@DubLubb]

Well if you throw out the locrian chord of any key because it's not useful really you're down to a six sided die to roll....the vocal arrangement is nowhere near similar...get this frivolous nonsense outta here....

[@davis70140]

Im shock little richard family ain't suing many music artist listen to little richard songs your see how many music artist have stolen from him elvis presly stole from little richard and when little richard finely met elvis he wrote little richard a check and little richard went whooo I love elvis he's so sweet and went shut up when interviewed about it also marven gay stole from little richard compare the songs

[@jilpok1074]

It’s not the chords. He copied the entire sheet music. He could have just changed a couple of notes in order to avoid infringing.

[@jilpok1074]

@@daveitferris Nope. The sheet music is the same and that is grounds for winning a copyright suit. They may have thrown out the case for other reasons, but that does not make my statement incorrect at all.

[@bpxl53yewz29]

@@jilpok1074 They don’t even have a copyright on the final song, just the deposit copy. - which doesn’t not even include the drum rhythm and bass guitar line they are accusing him of “stealing”

[@LunaticEdit]

The fact that they played the axis of awesome's 4 chord song in an actual US courtroom validates everything they have every done, and now I can die a happy man.

[@leoworrall9449]

Axis of awesome was the first thing I thought of when I heard about this law suit

[@kingofflamingos1578]

Love this for you!! 😍

[@aarongarciagaytan5678]

I watched that Axis of Awesome video for the first time three days ago and thought the same thing. Then busted out laughing when I saw they used it cause it’s such a funny video.

[@keln7804]

From Melbourne, Australia.. am beyond blown away for these guys! Who'd have thought a decade and a half later!

[@steveshow-tos5394]

My law school played this video for us during a property law class. My mind was blown! Great stuff!

[@boss7229]

It's about money, that's all it is. Money hungry people.

[@gennaterra]

I would say money hungry attorneys

[@alexloik3979]

Higgas my bro, they always like that

[@MikeJones-e3m]

Yes-money hungry new songwriters ripping off classic original songs for sure!

[@jae6220]

@@alexloik3979 just another white man stealing black man’s music.

[@titan8084]

@@MikeJones-e3m You sir, are an ignorant!

[@BaktaBak3]

The "Thinking Out Loud" singer argued that the trial was a threat to all musicians who create their own music. As a singer / songwriter myself.... YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ED ! This lawsuit (to put it mildly) is DUMB ! Glad you won the case! Thank YOU for your talent ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !!

[@ghgh2403]

Exactly!!!! Well put 👏🏻

[@KentLandZoo]

Love me some Marvin Gaye but yeah his family is on some serious bullshit.... They got The Roots like that for that Blurred Lines song....and actually won the case....the only thing similar was the aesthetic of the track other than that...case was closed for me.... Again love me some Marvin and I'm sure if he were alive this wouldn't be an issue to him....glad they didn't get to put Ed in the same trick bag

[@lsad705]

I'm not sure what kind of artist you think that you are, but I can hear it.

[@jilpok1074]

@@KentLandZoo That’s just the way the law works. One of the way intellectual property monetizes is through infringement (and suing). It is very lucrative and can make way more money than you ever did with a lifetime of writing songs. It is no surprised that the songs that make the most money get sued more. But another way to look at it is that these people are making a whole lot of money from copying something from the little guy. Would you like it if someone went on to make millions of dollars from copying the music or the words or the design associated with a song you wrote without paying you anything? It’s not a great system, but it is a system that goes both ways.

[@redshift8302]

@@jilpok1074 Here it goes beyond that, the family of the songwriter saw Sheeran as a cash cow, and were likely scouring the radio to get hold of a suitable prey, that is one famous enough and ready to settle outside courts to avoid bad publicity. I'm glad Sheeran kept his cool because the songs are not similar even in a remote way. Bad luck, maybe next time they will reel a big fish.

[@christopherparsons3224]

There are so many chords, so many notes and so many patterns of them that are pleasing to the ear. It is bound to happen. I always loved the lyric where Pink Floyd said, "...and When the band you're in starts playing different tunes, I'll see you on the dark side of the moon." Also, as someone who can hear different songs, when I hear a song, I have never heard Marvin Gaye once when I have listened to that song. To me, they are completely different.

[@jb45119]

They have a jury who doesn’t know about sound deciding the future of music. Cases like this one are insane. I hope Ed wins.

[@netflixandchinchilla]

They are deciding on information presented in court. Any outside knowledge can actually be detrimental because you would have your own ideas and opinions that may not relate to the trial at hand. That's why they get experts to come in and only speak to the jury on specifics related to the case. Most jurors probably don't know anything about killing someone in a murder trial either.

[@rofoltofol]

@@netflixandchinchilla Sorry but this is literally about the creativity and future of music vs the money grubbing hands of a family and their lawyers. I don't even know why there is a jury in this case. Why has the estate of Robert Johnson not sued literally every single blues, rock, and metal musician who has existed in the last 80 years? Where does it stop?

[@netflixandchinchilla]

@@rofoltofol There is a jury because that is how the judicial system works. But hey look, Ed Sheeran will probably win this lawsuit because you need more than 4 chords to claim copyright infringement. Melody, instrumentation, and musical structure are also important and in this case those other components are not the same.

[@TTCanadaJapan]

@@netflixandchinchilla considering they gay estate won against blurred lines, you're underestimating jus how stupid they are sometimes

[@joshuajuarez9930]

He won!

[@HiThereFaceHere]

I feel for Ed on this one. A bunch of people who aren't musicians and know absolutely nothing about writing music trying to tell you (a professional musician) how music works. I would lose my damn mind. There are only so many time signatures and so many chords and scales. Almost every song on earth is inspired by another song

[@Marta1Buck]

It's like copyrighting words in the dictionary.

[@matthewrammig]

The problem is that it’s up to the jury to decide

[@electramessin5497]

@@matthewrammig yeah the main problem is the "jury system". I was sued back years ago for something I genuinely did not do and the girl blatently lied on the witness stand along with her friend. I HONESTLY was innocent BUT truth doesn't prevail it's literallly whatever idiot is on the jury that just makes the final decision even if it's completely wrong and unfair. I ended up losing the case and had to pay money even though I sware I was innocent. This was 20 years ago. I really hope Justice will prevail in the end it's up to God in the end these "jury's" are not God and should not be making decisions that can destroy someone's life just based on their personal inaccurate opinion that probably they could care less about they just had to serve "jury duty" .

[@maybememory1]

He even showed how one of Ed Townsend’s song For Your Love is much more similar to Earth Angel by The Penguins. So, if they think Ed ripped off Let’s Get It On, then that means their father did the exact same thing. You can’t copyright a vibe.

[@electramessin5497]

@@maybememory1 Thankfully Ed won! If you could sue just because one phrase sounds slightly similar at one section in the song that would result in endless lawsuits as I'm sure there are many songs with similar musical phrases but not identical, like you already pointed out. To be honest I'm familiar with both songs and after all the times I listened to Ed's song I never once even thought of Marvin's "Let's get it on" song being similar until this law suit came up.

[@kimhuff]

This is crazy. "Thinking Out Loud" sounds nothing like "Let's Get It On." Take a look at Megan Trainor's song "Dear Future Husband" and Olly Murs song "Dance with Me Tonight." You can practically play the sheet music for either one of those songs and sing the words to either one and they fit perfectly. No one took the other to court and their songs are very close. Marvin Gaye's song, "Let's Get It On," which I've listened to since I was a little kid, and Ed Sheeran's song, "Thinking Out Loud," which has never ONCE made me think of "Let's Get It On," are both songs on my top favorites the moment I heard them. It sure seems like someone is trying to make some money off of someone else's work.

[@simonjames1604]

ed has sung lets get it on live in the past in the middle of playing "thinking out loud" he brought this on himself .

[@davis70140]

Im shock little richard family ain't suing many music artist listen to little richard songs your see how many music artist have stolen from him elvis presly stole from little richard and when little richard finely met elvis he wrote little richard a check and little richard went whooo I love elvis he's so sweet and went shut up when interviewed about it also marven gay stole from little richard compare the songs

[@simonjames1604]

@@davis70140 his publisher did sue ccr and won

[@davis70140]

@@simonjames1604 who's ccr

[@simonjames1604]

@@davis70140 creedance clearwater revival they were sued for "travelin band" which perrimans publishers claimed was just two little richard songs added together

[@beenarboy]

Congratulations, Ed Sheeran a well-deserved win!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@eisernfront8549]

This is a win for every artists and up and coming artists. If this have passed, the music industry wouod have been f-ed

[@stevenmotchan2048]

Nobody has ever gotten a copyright for a chord progression. You can copyright melody and lyrics but not chords.

[@easypeasy2938]

You can copyright arrangement, which is what this suit is about.

[@simonjames1604]

the blurred lines case has changed a lot of things in the world of copyright

[@davis70140]

Im shock little richard family ain't suing many music artist listen to little richard songs your see how many music artist have stolen from him elvis presly stole from little richard and when little richard finely met elvis he wrote little richard a check and little richard went whooo I love elvis he's so sweet and went shut up when interviewed about it also marven gay stole from little richard compare the songs

[@thesadarsenalfan3319]

Unfortunally this same pathetic family, made a law suit against Pharell that changed the game. Soon we are not allowed to use any rythm used before. Its going to be impossible to make music in the future with greedy pathetic heirings like this. Gaye like Elvis was heavy inspired and even copied little Richard.

[@simonjames1604]

@@thesadarsenalfan3319 no they didnt, this is the family of ed townsend who have nothing to do with the pharell case as townsend isnt a writer of that song

[@patriciagoss1809]

Ed Sheeran is literally the last person to take the heart out of music. That is what I love about him! His songs have meaning! ❤️❤️❤️

[@ojerico6097]

That's the case for a lot of singers lol

[@juliansandoval8022]

i dislike his music, but i dont think he was copying Gaye.

[@juliansandoval8022]

@Nothing Mate I never said I hate his music, i just dont like it. As soon as I hear it on the radio, i turn it off. But again, i dont think he was copying it

[@leviwatson8120]

this man plays his guitar at every chance

[@sweettea527]

He is good at it. I'm not mad at him.

[@berto3745]

I read a comment earlier on this.... “you can play both songs at the same time for the next 10 years and they still aren’t the same”

[@IemonandIime]

whoever wrote twinkle twinkle little star should sue whoever wrote the ABC song

[@walterblair1085]

And they both should sue baa baa black sheep 😂

[@juleshiggins-ellicott2222]

such an excellent point!! @lemonandlime

[@gogakushayemi]

There is a classic called "Ah vous dirai-je Maman" with the same sound, too.

[@davisperron4260]

I love how Ed just starts doing a whole music theory lesson in court. It’s just stupid to me that this is even a lawsuit 😂 One, the songs don’t sound that similar and two, there are tons of songs that sound super similar and there’s not always lawsuits for those. Go Ed!

[@azlyn1533]

Easy money 😂

[@Lyndaalicia]

Agree

[@nmg1909]

The tempo is the same but different lyrics.

[@nineowands]

Hahahahahaha❤❤❤

[@josephdahdouh2725]

The family only want to rip Ed of his money. Really shade and disrespectful of the musician they are claiming to defend.

[@rachaelkras2386]

It's because Ed Sheeran is one of the biggest artists in the world and they want money.

[@newmankidman5763]

Monipenny007, to your point, street musicians play other people's songs, as well as their own version of them, every day, while getting tips, basically getting paid, and nobody is suing them. Copyright of certain things should have an expiration date, after which they would become public domain

[@kikio-rq9kx]

Elvis did the same thing.

[@easypeasy2938]

@@newmankidman5763 They do. Songs enter the public domain after 96 years. As for cover musicians, if a cover tune is played in any venue, the venue pays a royalty to the performance rights company that monitors that particular song (BMI, ASCAP or SESAC). As for street musicians...not it a venue, so it doesn't apply (not to mention, really shallow pockets).

[@newmankidman5763]

@@easypeasy2938, thanks for the info. What I find ridiculous is KZbinrs filming on the streets often having to edit out or replace the sound due to copyright music playing in the background. In such cases as music in the background on the streets, copyright should not be in effect

[@rainkatt]

Monipenny007 spot on!

[@Chriskellah]

this lawsuit is just stupid of an idea to say the least, over a chord progression that almost everyone has used really? wow ed better win this

[@RayMak]

Their ears are eternally blessed

[@rhinoknife]

What a foolish and frivolous lawsuit

[@kuxica]

Shame on that family that’s going on a vigilante crusade to find any music that remotely resembles something they think their father or grandfather wrote- similar is not the same as copying. They’ve already got something for Blurred Lines but that’s because Pharrell was an idiot saying he could read music. He screwed up big time and may have been the cause for all this bs going on with Marvin Gaye and his co-writer , et Al….. Shame on these plaintiffs for going on their witch-hunt. They’re just greedy folk who need to quit with their secret and dirty habits just to make a buck off of something that they didn’t work hard on.

[@brahmanjnananithya7913]

It is time to change the copyrightt laws so that only living artists can engage in such lawsuits. No Corporations or greedy descendants. It will save the pop music genre.

[@simonjames1604]

you are entirely wrong, the gaye family has nothing to do with this case, its the family of singer ed townsends family who are suing.

[@simonjames1604]

@@brahmanjnananithya7913 that wont ever happen, copyright is a valuable property that is sold and bequeathed like any other thing of value, its like saying once you die your family cant have your house because they are greedy, utterly brainless thing to say

[@iamkaedahara]

@@simonjames1604 STUPID ! BRAIN CELL PERSON COMMENTING DEFENDING TOWNSEND. Y'ALL ROT IN THE DEEPEST PARTS OF HELL WITH THAT TOWNSEND FAMILY.

[@myshepspud1]

Talentless shmucks

[@kathyhelm5998]

Just listened to both songs. Both great. Neither song makes me think of the other.

[@brain8484]

why are you here commenting then ?

[@mickeywebb6850]

​@@brain8484 your comment isn't necessary. *Get a life* .

[@ljsims13]

The same beat

[@jacobwest2358]

​@@brain8484 same reason u are, because he watched this video

[@musicpoetry9812]

@@brain8484 your name is brain but u got non

[@temple134]

it’s not even in the same key, and this progression is used literally 10’s of thousands of times 😂 it’s funny hearing news reporters contemplate the philosophy behind music theory

[@kristenkillen]

I love the fact that they played the four cord song by axis of awesome. I use to use that to show my friends how easy it was to play once you know some basic chords; it convinced some to follow through with learning to play guitar

[@kamilzabiegala1649]

give the guy a break....

[@MikeJones-e3m]

For what-getting rich ripping off other artists hard earned actual genius songwriting? It is a total ripoff

[@freddyjisp9420]

@@MikeJones-e3m Ah, no it's not. Learn something about music before you rip heads off and come across like a yahoo. This is a greedy cash grab driven by a group of heirs who have an insane burn rate. They got lucky with 'Blurred Lines', but I guess they spent that windfall. I wonder what Marvin Gaye thought of his heirs? I bet he had a low opinion of their cash-hunting ways.

[@RobertMatlock]

@@MikeJones-e3m 4 chords and the most basic drum grove possible is not genius songwriting. The only part of both songs that made them great was the vocal, which they are nothing alike. Furthermore, this copyright claim literally only applies to the verses, the rest of the song isn't even the same chords.

[@804MRMAN]

@@RobertMatlock GOOFY THAT SAME EXACT SONG LOL

[@unbotheredchico]

From the second I heard this song when it was released I've been saying he copied Marvin's song.

[@davelarson6682]

Ed is the red headed step son that everyone always wanted

[@davis70140]

Im shock little richard family ain't suing many music artist listen to little richard songs your see how many music artist have stolen from him elvis presly stole from little richard and when little richard finely met elvis he wrote little richard a check and little richard went whooo I love elvis he's so sweet and went shut up when interviewed about it also marven gay stole from little richard compare the songs

[@Rodolka]

Who? Just.. Shut up...

[@yangerjamir0906]

Douglas Davis, stop spamming.

[@davis70140]

@@yangerjamir0906 so you know a dead secret behind peanuts 🥜 and dogs ride moter bikes at night time

[@boss290t]

Yeh nah that’s Prince Harry 😅

[@estebanrivera1227]

These 4 cords were being used in music before Marvin Gaye. This lawsuit is going to go no where.

[@easypeasy2938]

It's not just the chords. If you're curious, Beato has a great video on the similarities. Sheeran may have written the song on the guitar without trying to copy Marvin's song, but his producer used almost the exact bass line, drums and pad. Sheeran will lose.

[@ErinMar]

@@easypeasy2938 Sheeran will not lose. I’ll come back to rub it in your ignorant face

[@polasbeatz]

@@easypeasy2938 As a music producer and with my honest judgement, I don't think Ed copied anything, Chord progressions are copied day in day out, provided he even did, nobody on this earth owns a chord progression, if the artist doesn't exactly sample or copy your lyrics or rhythm, there's is no infringement if I used the same chord progression and modified it. Listening to the two songs in contest, all I heard were two different vocals or lyrics with different rhythms on a chord progression which doesn't call for a any copyright.✍

[@simonjames1604]

ed has stupidly sang "lets get it on " live a few times, this case is going to be a loss for him

[@estebanrivera1227]

@@polasbeatz these two guys obviously don't know anything about music.

[@jbranche8024]

Same, same, but different. Ed doesn't need to intentionally copy someone, he is seriously talented on his own.

[@pennycolbourne7994]

❤

[@mirandacamp4222]

So talented. Team Ed ❤️

[@youtubeisstoopid]

First of all, Chord Progressions are NOT copyrightable, nor are rhythm patterns.

[@TheOriginalFayari]

There are 17 root notes on a guitar. So at most, it'd be only 17^4 = 83521 unique ways to make a four-chord progression, even counting progressions where it's just the same note four times. There are around 1.6 million songs produced every single year.

[@BashoStrikes]

Well, I'll tell ya folks, my wife was seventeen when we met and Lets "Get ot On" was very much still being played and of course it was somewhat a theme song for young lovers. Now that we are almost 70 years of age, together for most of our lives, Eds song is very appropriate to us. Are they similar - yes, as many songs are. The difference is they are collective in a beautiful sequence representing lovers, from beginning to end, who experience that wonderful longevity most will never get to understand.

[@davis70140]

Im shock little richard family ain't suing many music artist listen to little richard songs your see how many music artist have stolen from him elvis presly stole from little richard and when little richard finely met elvis he wrote little richard a check and little richard went whooo I love elvis he's so sweet and went shut up when interviewed about it also marven gay stole from little richard compare the songs

[@primercaballero9990]

That is beautiful. You are right there is nothing wrong with a song reminding you another song. ❤ music is so powerful but the real message is the meaning of it and the real stories of love. I'm honored just to know a glimpse of your life love story

[@ryanhernandez6002]

He’s getting sued because this song was a hit and made a ton of money and is vaguely similar to let’s get it on… There are tons of other songs, not as popular with the same for progressions that will never get looked at because they didn’t make millions

[@GhostlyVisage04]

It's all about money at the end of the day.

[@mariyam1511]

Exactly :

[@KrazyKats39]

doesnt sound anything like Marvin Gaye

[@MikeJones-e3m]

You are clueless-obvious rip off!

[@bishdizzle67]

It doesn't.

[@timothymumba99]

It does, it's the same chords

[@therealtyjr]

That's cap it definitely does. I don't think he copied it but it's similar there's even video footage of him singing let's get it over his version

[@KrazyKats39]

@@therealtyjr so every rap song is liable for copyright infringement then.

[@MarkG-f7v]

Ed was on a show explaining that with 4 chords he could play basically any song that fell into that category and that was before this trial...!! Mark G Dublin Ireland !!

[@lrish14]

4:48 Classic argument, can't escape it these days. Always must have something to do with skin color right? Can it ever just be humans doing human things?

[@YoursUntruly]

Of COURSE they made it about race 😂 Unbelievably shallow and baseless last ditch effort to squeeze some more money of out their dead cash cow. But ED’s THE DISRESPECTFUL ONE

[@lrish14]

@@YoursUntruly It's ironic because the music that literally samples the most from one another is hip-hop and rap. The same music that is considered "black music" and any white person that comes into the genre is "stealing their culture". In reality, everyone is stealing from everyone, it's called influence; unless of course people of different skin colors are involved, then it's racism 🤡🤣

[@brahmanjnananithya7913]

Ed Townsend's family has been profiting to the tune of several million dollars by suing musicians for copyright infringement. This suit would give them 100 million dollars for a clear win and 1 to 10 million for a partial win. I believe this is an income stream that should be put to rest in order to assure the future of pop music.

[@MikeJones-e3m]

and Townsend's songs that he was blessed to write are getting ripped off by mediocre talented new performers that know the public is too low iq to notice!

[@finjibuns]

​@@MikeJones-e3m good one. 🙄

[@freemagicfun]

Money hungry nobodies trying to cash in on their ancestor's talent - and tarnishing his image at the same time.

[@brahmanjnananithya7913]

@@freemagicfun I think it is time to change the copyright laws so claims can only be made by living artists. It will keep the music alive and free up the courts for real issues.

[@brahmanjnananithya7913]

@@MikeJones-e3m I believe that only living artists should be able to sue for copyright violation, not their greedy descendants

[@jayhendee4018]

If there are only 12 chords in music then there is only 2401 possible 4 chord progressions. I have over 400 songs on my phone. If every song had a different progression then I would have 1/6 of the world's songs. I'm sure Marvin Gaye copied the 4 chord progression from someone else

[@notyourmanicpixie]

they're going to end up soiling Gaye's name in the end if they sue everyone that makes any music with any of the same chords.

[@freemagicfun]

They do not care about Townsend's or Gaye's name. They are just money hungry nobodies making frivolous lawsuits.

[@brahmanjnananithya7913]

There's a saying in legal circles " Where there's a hit there's a writ." Its time to change the laws so that only living artists can sue each other. They probably won' bother.

[@sasanyadawson6313]

Marvin is a legend what are you?

[@Kaywaprince]

​@@sasanyadawson6313 what are you ?. She makes a point you make no sense

[@jonathanmayberrydesigns]

they already did. and they brought race in to it. despicable. and they wonder why people are racist

[@lamper2]

This wasn't unique-John Fogerty successfully did this years ago 4:09 this is a poor defense since there are only 26 letters in our alphabet yet you can never get away with lifting an already published story. 4:35 Racism accusations-always an unwelcome technique. didn't work this time but it won't go away!

[@chelseaalwell6443]

This is just a baseless accusation, the songs sound nothing alike and chord progressions are repeated all the time in music

[@wayneriley5292]

This whole thing, as most people know is completely ridiculous. Each artist presents their own song in such a unique and meaningful way. Marvin and Ed are both very good at what they do and wonderful performers. That should be their legacy. This just appears to be another example of only in America and a money grab from some very greedy people, or people with SOOO much money they simply have nothing better to do, which is very sad, considering how many people are starving and suffering across the globe.

[@eire3215]

Very true and that snake krump is always in the middle of it when people are looking to be compensated..

[@pavlovdogs1178]

Spot on.

[@escamunicha4276]

Sheeran's best defense is show songs with the same chord progression and drum beats that precede Marvin Gay's songs. There are plenty.

[@polasbeatz]

As a music producer and with my honest judgement, I don't think Ed copied anything, Chord progressions are copied day in day out, provided he even did, nobody on this earth owns a chord progression, if the artist doesn't exactly sample or copy your lyrics or rhythm, there's is no infringement if I used the same chord progression and modified it. Listening to the two songs in contest, all I heard were two different vocals or lyrics with different rhythms on a chord progression which doesn't call for a any copyright.✍

[@simonjames1604]

you are unaware of the blurred lines case? sheeran cant pilfer someone elses arrangement and he has, and he will most likely lose the case, a case he has hurt tremendously by singing lets get it on live in the middle of thinking out loud quite a number of times

[@ckatheman]

@@simonjames1604 sorry but the Blurred Lines case was a severe legal error, to say the least and I expect at some point it will be overturned or the effects of it limited to the defendants and plaintiffs. In other words, not allowed to be treated as case law.

[@simonjames1604]

@@ckatheman maybe it was , but its the legal standard for now and ed isnt in the future trying this case is he?

[@ckatheman]

@@simonjames1604 Again, it is NOT the legal standard. The law has NOT changed.

[@simonjames1604]

@@ckatheman again you are WRONG the case went through the appeals process and the blurred gang still LOST. its the new standard for now, you are just incorrect and dont understand how legal cases change the parameters of cases.

[@KevinTumlinson]

This was a thing? They based this on a four-chord progression? That puts practically every musician on Earth in a copyright dispute.

[@vanartin]

This is a joke. There’s a limited number of musical combinations. It’s inevitable before someone copies another’s work coincidentally or intentionally. It’s the same with other art forms. It’s cool that Damien Riehl and Noah Rubin have been working on making certain melodies free for public use.

[@shad0wCh8ser]

This song came out and blew up 9 years ago, why just now? If you felt like someone "copied" you, one would have known immediately -especially if it was a song so popular that it was played everywhere including a grocery store. just sayin... timing is a little weird.

[@chrysallis317]

OMG, Ed can't catch a break. I would never confuse these songs, as a non-musician, well I learned the recorder for 6 years as a kid😂, I can see they both have a relaxed vibe, but otherwise, no.

[@simonjames1604]

ed didnt help himself by quite often singing "lets get it on" live in the middle of performing his song, thats going to be a part of the court case he aint gonna look good in

[@chrysallis317]

@@simonjames1604 Oh, ok. As I said, I've never confused them. In visual art you basically have to copy something stroke by stroke, to win a copyright suit. You can change something 10% and you are sadly good to go. I don't know with this. He lost a copyright suit with photograph (another song was so similar). Won another case with Shape of you. To be fair, that case was ridiculous, two beats in common.

[@simonjames1604]

@@chrysallis317 this is a coin flip case, i could see ed winning., i could see him losing.

[@chrysallis317]

@@simonjames1604 Marvin Gaye is amazing by the way. Has the same kind of Legacy as Aretha Franklin or Bob Dylan. Their music is inter-twined with the civil rights, anti-war, anti-violence movements of the time. 'What's going on' is brilliant, and captured that feeling.

[@simonjames1604]

@@chrysallis317 marvin was into ecological rights before it was cool too but later on he had his issues

[@roberttorrance731]

Rick Beato did a great review and analysis. The beat / rhythm is very similar, and there may have been some influence, but they are different melody’s and songs.

[@auronterry8138]

Can’t copyright a chord progression. Besides, it’s how it’s played that matters. This case has gotten ridiculous. I hope he wins

[@TrymYoutubeMainChannel]

no one owns notes on a fretboard of a guitar or whatever instrument for example if I strum along to Em, Am and G chords sure tons of songs use those in songs but that doesn't mean it's a copy of someone, ffs let musicians express themselfs through their art

[@naycnay]

Gaye's song is a I iii IV V progression. Ed's is a I I6 IV V. Sure the I6 is like a play on the iii. But so many major progressions start on the I and end on the V for that smooth resolution. IV leading into V is always super common. The inclusion of a minor adds character and the iii sits right on the major third of the key and being the prime choice, but rather than stick to convention he spiced it up with a I6, D/F#. I don't have any problem with the progression. But it's timing of the chord changes are equally on point. So it's fundamentally the same chords played in the same timing. Not an uncommon timing though. However, that's just the underlying progression of the verses and everything else is uniquely different. This case is pretty frivolous.

[@sundownpass-mateiconstantin]

What about the bassline, exactly the same, same timing? What about the kick, same pattern ? The hi-hats, same? And the arrangement? It's not that Ed took the sheet music and copied it, but probably had the Gaye song in his mind without realising it...

[@Aidan_Smith84]

@@sundownpass-mateiconstantin and Marvin Gaye undoubtedly had other songs in his subconscious when he wrote too... does Ed owe THEM money too? Do we just all owe Bach?! Whole thing is ridiculous.. note it's not Marvin Gaye's estate making the claim, it's the estate of the co-writer who don't sound like they have a musical bone in their collective bodies and are just out for a quick buck. Let's hope the court makes the best decision for music and throws the case out promptly.

[@sundownpass-mateiconstantin]

@@Aidan_Smith84 Your answer doesn't make any sense

[@Aidan_Smith84]

Does to me, which bit you struggling with?

[@sundownpass-mateiconstantin]

@@Aidan_Smith84 None actually; but you’re going from Sheeran to Bach pretty fast. I have a lot of love and respect for Ed and his music; unfortunately in this case the instrumental part of the song is the same as Marvin Gaye’s. The courts will decide

[@Kwaician]

Next rappers will be suing for similar lyrical cadences. Pre hook isn't the same, The overall feel isn't the same, the message isn't the same, the melody isn't the same and the instrumentation isn't unique to Marvin's music in the first place. This is really sad, praying for both parties though. Court is hard on all sides.

[@nathanchohany8169]

They have always used similar cadences. I do hope you are joking that u dont know who marvin gaye is i can see ed townsen but not really marvin

[@desmondhoneycutt4434]

​@Simulation K Marvin Gaye have more hit records than Ed will ever have he's a legend, and the first time I listened to thinking out loud I knew it was MG music

[@brahmanjnananithya7913]

@Simulation K Marvin Gaye and his co-writer Ed Townsend are both dead. Gaye died before Sheeran was born if I am not mistaken and Townsend in 2004. It is Townsends greedy relatives who are suing Ed Sheeran. If Ed Sheeran did not write hits they would not bother. Time to change the copyright law to save the music.

[@simonjames1604]

@@brahmanjnananithya7913 they will toughen copyright laws rather than weaken them, you seem to like the idea of folks not making money of the hard work of their families , i take it you are ok if your family legally isnt entitled to any inheritance from you? i dont feel you have thought this through in the least

[@dyer3808]

The sound of money

[@davis70140]

Im shock little richard family ain't suing many music artist listen to little richard songs your see how many music artist have stolen from him elvis presly stole from little richard and when little richard finely met elvis he wrote little richard a check and little richard went whooo I love elvis he's so sweet and went shut up when interviewed about it also marven gay stole from little richard compare the songs

[@debbieapostol7783]

I agree and how sad.

[@BarracusObamus]

@@davis70140 stop copying and pasting this comment all over the comment section. No one wants to see it a million times

[@davis70140]

@@BarracusObamus so you know a dead secret behind peanuts 🥜 and dogs ride moter bikes at night time

[@davis70140]

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[@BreakerFamily]

How are these are even close to being the same?

[@lancelotchapman4977]

That 4 chord progression goes back to King Solomon. So everybody should be sued for using that progression.

[@6thwatergateplumber]

current copyright laws in today's music world are as outdated as the 16 lifeboats on the Titanic. All the chords and sounds are out there. It's nearly impossible to come up with a song today that does not have the same chord progressions that were "invented" in all those prior years.

[@EmilyJBunny]

I think Marvin would be embarrassed by this silliness

[@brendakipkemoi2738]

Reminiscent of Margaret Keane, the "Big Eyes" painter, who painted in court to prove the works were hers. If you're talented it will always show. Godspeed Ed Sheeran.

[@chasenuuhiwa]

It's usually people that don't really know music are the ones that accuse others of stealing chord progression.

[@gregkocis]

You can't copywrite chord progressions. The lyrics and Melody are the only things you can copywrite.

[@michellestegner9245]

That's why in country music, it is said all you need for a song is "four chords and the truth" in other words, there will always be "similarities"

[@abc123fhdi]

they don't sound the same at all

[@simonjames1604]

ed has sung lets get it on live in middle of thinking out loud a few times, so you are wrong.\

[@sasanyadawson6313]

​@@simonjames1604 i swear these people don't know music😂

[@simonjames1604]

@@sasanyadawson6313 i am old so i know both songs lol but ed singing lets get it on to his own song is gonna hurt him in this case

[@lukewalker4813]

The 4 chord song! Axis of Awesome. Soo good.

[@simonjames1604]

different chords and honestly not what the suit is about

[@ervin570]

Somehow I am not surprised that someone tried to tie this situation to racism

[@deanmignonelli9316]

come on em g d c most popular songs have these chords (and easiest to play) not that ed has that problem

[@2BFrank2BFair]

Just an audience. Not a musician. I hate copying too. But I don’t think Ed’s song is similar to Marvin’s song at all. So, no ones say anything when they hear it. They love the song right away without hesitation.

[@adrianticsay4183]

l always thought they have the same beat and same genre, but never came to my mind that they are the same and obviously not. They have different melody. If Ed lose ow well the music industry is an ATM for those who need money from the present huge artists. I hope he wins.

[@johnnygavin3654]

Let the kid play. He didn't even sample the song like so many do. I never once thought of let's get it on when I heard thinking out loud.

[@treasurepoem]

I thought that chord progression wasn't copyrightable?

[@antlou123]

G, D, D7, C... this is the most common cord used by musicians. They can change the rhythm or progression, it is still the same cords. That's the beauty of music.

[@Dorodigital]

Every musician alive is aware of the process of music creation...this is only an issue because of MONEY and not because of the art.

[@DS_Infinity]

i love the part where they show us him playing the guitar

[@mightmave]

hahaa right?? wasted my time for nothing

[@mariyam1511]

Ikrr !! I came here to hear him playing it ✨ !! But was a clickbait sadly !!

[@lilpoohbear653]

ridiculous that a chord progression is owned by anybody...Ed is innocent

[@lilpoohbear653]

annnnddd...alll this race crap is PLAYED OUT

[@simonjames1604]

he somewhat foolishly took to singing "lets get it on" as a medley with "thinking out loud" and brought this case on himself,. how innocent he is ? who the hell knows? the vers sounds an awful lot like lets get it on and even ed has pretty much acknowledged that,

[@user-dm1sq5hk6w]

@@simonjames1604 maybe because that groove was around before Marvin Gaye’s song?

[@simonjames1604]

@@user-dm1sq5hk6wand? its still basically the same feel, not saying townsends family will win but they got a case

[@iamkaedahara]

@@simonjames1604 You clearly don't know about music so better live and get back to your menial dimbo life

[@lisamarie6611]

Imagine if yes is not yes and no is not no! A beat now on the board of law is stupid! This is now too much! I will never stand silent!

[@DocDisguise]

“Do It To Me” by Lionel Richie uses the same four chords pattern and same syncopated rhythm. Better take legal action against him too.

[@brianallthetime]

It's the beat! The chord progression is common. The groove of that beat cannot be copyrighted. They will be used, get over it. With the thousands of possibilities, we are always going to be crossing these bridges.

[@stevep6317]

It's the exact same progression, just a 1/2 step up. That said, there are only so many notes to write music with. Ideas will repeat over history. Look up Cannon in D, or 3 chord songs, or 4 chord songs. It's a petty lawsuit and should be thrown out.

[@easypeasy2938]

It's not the progression....it's the arrangement. The melody is totally different, but the bass line and drums are almost note for note. Same bpm. Sheeran's gonna lose

[@simonjames1604]

ed singing lets get it on live in concert as a medley with his song is gonna hurt him

[@josephinerawley6683]

No way do they sound the same

[@MikeJones-e3m]

LOl not if you listen to this clip the paid shills of the media played of the chorus of the Gaye song and the verse of Sheeran's obviously ripped off song-You have no clue-it is a total infringement and needs to be addressed!

[@sobeliever1638]

The chord progress are the same not the melodies. Still think it is ridiculous.

[@davidmeyers8474]

@@sobeliever1638 not the exact same cords. and Townsend was not the first to use the four cord progression

[@blitzinstripes3788]

Copyrighting a common chord progression in music is like trying to copyright the name "John". Get over yourselves, people. There only exists so many notes and chords in music. Literally millions of songs share common chord progressions.

[@ewonubaripaul7960]

Marvin Gaye qnd Ed Sheeran, two of the most respected artist in their days. Ed Sheeran is a talented singer and truly came up with his beat. Let this issue be settled amicably. Love Ed ❤

[@boss290t]

Marvin Gay is outdated , nobody listens to his music anymore. Real music is Barry White .

[@A87CHE]

We want ED Sheeran, Tiesto, 50 Cent, Jean Michel Jarre, Shakira and Moby in the Paris 2024 Olympic Games Opening Scene

[@andrewambriz6784]

Next thing you know, they're gonna be suing for using a snare in a song... "see look!! I used my snare on the 2 and 4 beat and so are they!! Whaaa!! I'm suing!"

[@BuIIet]

How did this case ever make it to trial? I feel like Sheeran doesn't even have to show up to win this.

[@mariastewart8810]

He should have settled it😏

[@topsykretts2264]

You can’t copyright a common 4 chord progression and tempo of 80bpm. Come one now. This was a cash grab attempt.

[@kman8749]

Glad Ed won this. This case was insane to bring forward and a waste of time and money. The songs aren't that similar. You can't sue somebody for using common guitar chords in music.

[@kerr6627]

This music is a master piece i remember this first release of thinking out loud when i was 10 years old now I'm 19 years old what a beautiful masterpiece ❤

[@mindywilliams1225]

Marvin Gaye's people are always suing people🤣 They must of run out of money again!

[@simonjames1604]

its not marvins people at all

[@remidemeere7894]

This is nuts. He writes a great song and now somebody wants a piece of it

[@RockMike-kl4li]

Hi how are you doing

[@MackDaddyVic]

I’m very familiar with both songs, and when I hear Thinking Out Loud, I don’t even remotely think of Marvin Gaye’s song in the slightest. This is just a micromanage if I’ve ever heard one. And why did it take Marvin all these years to say something about it anyways? Susss

[@AaronAirstrike]

Not speaking on this situation but in general I've noticed that if liberals like someone the liberal media will speak of them in kind regard but if they don't like or agree with someone especially if they have conservative or republican views then they speak negatively of them and will demonize them.

[@rustyspoonzzz]

That family is so money hungry, they try and sue everyone.

[@ingaanna1]

They are jealous! Because Ed Sheeran made what nobody made before! He is our singer! He is from street! He is not like those "stars" We love you ❤️ Ed! Dont give up!!!

[@RockMike-kl4li]

Hi how are you doing

[@accutronitisthe2nd95]

Ed's is in a different Key! no case!

[@MikeJones-e3m]

lol yeah sure non genius. songs are a half step apart and has nothing to do with anything-but you are obviously clueless that this song was def ripped off!

[@joshsanchez4342]

"Credit where credit is due"??? But $100m?? No! You want money! Thank god Ed Sheeran won the case. And rightfully so!

[@joeylammin5160]

So sad and pathetic that these people are doing this … money grabbing… really feel for ed