Edge Banding Trimmer

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John Heisz - I Build It

John Heisz - I Build It

Күн бұрын

A jig for trimming the excess off an edge banded panel.
Build details here:
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@shawnfogle6096
@shawnfogle6096 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, after watching all of your newer videos and coming back and watching this one, I can say you’ve come a long way man in the quality of your videos!
@MisterSoul99
@MisterSoul99 12 жыл бұрын
That vid brought a tear to my eyes..... my first trimmer was a makita, it was stolen on a job and I have gone through three more, none as simple and comfy as that one.
@givreycham
@givreycham 10 жыл бұрын
John this is a brilliant idea and I have started making one. I have a spare router that I am going to set up semi-permanently. The only problem is that I cannot source a long enough ¼" flush trim cutter, the longest (in the UK) seem to be about 32mm. So I am trying it without the second fence and using the pivoting part as the fence. I have put an extra lock / clamp on it and it seems to work ok. Thanks for the realistic videos. Geoff
@JohnHeisz
@JohnHeisz 12 жыл бұрын
It would be an awkward operation on a router table, especially for larger panels. This is more of a very specific tool that is best suited for edge banding and has the adjustability needed for very close cuts.
@nathanaelmarcel5455
@nathanaelmarcel5455 3 жыл бұрын
Instablaster...
@JohnHeisz
@JohnHeisz 12 жыл бұрын
Dust collection can add quite a bit of complexity to a project but is certainly worth the effort. For something like this, that mostly spits out chips, I would just clean up afterwards, if it is a small run. Otherwise, a 2-1/2" hose could be attached to collect the chips just above the cutter - this should be very effective.
@JohnHeisz
@JohnHeisz 12 жыл бұрын
For the sake of simplicity, I went with the cam. The cam pre-lifts the arm to the approximate height, so that when the work is pushed through, it doesn't take much effort to push it. This also reduces wear at the pivot point, as the range of motion is reduced. A more elaborate machine could have a larger roller in place of the cam, in the place you suggest - this would make it fully self adjusting.
@deezynar
@deezynar 12 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought. Thanks for making that clear. That feature and the use of a trim bit on the opposite side of the table is what makes this unit so good.
@JohnHeisz
@JohnHeisz 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I don't think I can claim "invention" on this - there are probably very similar machines available to do this, but in a large production version, for cabinet making shops.
@arkledun
@arkledun 11 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent idea. I think that the reason for the edge banding sometimes not to be perfectly flashed could be that, if you have banding on both (opposite) sides of the board at the same time, the unrouted banding that is away from the router will lift the board causing the side at the router to be slanted downwards.and the edge away from the cutter. Once both sides are trimmed, a second pass should correct the problem. Thanks for sharing John.
@OwLoLz
@OwLoLz 10 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be easier to edge band one side, trim if off, then to edge the other side.
@tomwags4238
@tomwags4238 10 жыл бұрын
OwLoLz I believe what he means is..when you put an edge on one edge of the board, the flash overhangs the top and bottom of that edge. Perhaps a small groove the flash could :"ride in" would eliminate the problem. Lots cheaper then the $50,000 edgebander I had in my shop :) .....
@linkinprk1981
@linkinprk1981 10 жыл бұрын
Tom Wags Or just put your panel on top of a secondary flat surface that would run on top of the table, almost like a sled, then the edges would hange over those and not cause it to be unlevel while going through the cutting head.
@jdhannan
@jdhannan 10 жыл бұрын
Tom Wags you mean like the one in this video?
@frameriteairdrie578
@frameriteairdrie578 6 жыл бұрын
Just a simple watch of the video will show that the white platform does not reach all the way to the fence. This leaves a hollow trench that the bottom overhang will ride through, without touching anything.
@JohnHeisz
@JohnHeisz 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I often take some details for granted - I should have mentioned it in the video. The table is about 3/4" from the fence to allow for the uncut edge of the panel, so that the panel can sit flat on the table. The gap between the fence and table needs to be wider than the thickest edge banding that will be trimmed.
@toddbailey5198
@toddbailey5198 10 жыл бұрын
Very slick! I''m going to have to try and make one of these. The only thing I might change is the cam. Personally, I find a round disk with an off centre hole easier to make and the pressure is in a straight line between the bolt and the support so it is less likely to slip. Again very well thought out device.
@bencook9267
@bencook9267 7 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see u make an adjustable hinge jig that I could take to my job sights. love ur work
@seanfagan3107
@seanfagan3107 5 жыл бұрын
Just made this trimmer in a couple hours. Works great! Thank you for sharing!
@JohnHeisz
@JohnHeisz 12 жыл бұрын
I swear I didn't take it! ;-) I generally don't have much to complain about, where Makita tools are concerned. I've used and owned many of them, as well as other well known brands. I've found they have the best balance between affordability, reliability, longevity and usability of the mid-priced tools.
@markspears1167
@markspears1167 6 жыл бұрын
Wow!! Great trimmer. It appears to work very well. I need one of those.
@DavidTermini
@DavidTermini 10 жыл бұрын
This is a great system and will make one next time I do a lot .Thanks for sharing
@clifffarion7448
@clifffarion7448 5 жыл бұрын
Thank You - Makes me think about why I getting poor results from free handing the trimmer.
@JohnHeisz
@JohnHeisz 11 жыл бұрын
The spring and gravity. The cam only sets the router close to where it needs to be for the cut.
@JohnHeisz
@JohnHeisz 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks and thanks for watching.
@JanJan-yt3hs
@JanJan-yt3hs 4 жыл бұрын
very good and clear explanation and demonstration... thanks
@LiloUkulele
@LiloUkulele 4 жыл бұрын
Great video...Thanks so much....sharing the build details is very kind...Kudos plus!!!
@GlassImpressions
@GlassImpressions 12 жыл бұрын
You should design dust collection into your projects! that would take them to the next level
@ksp1278
@ksp1278 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the idea. I would like to do similar, but I've just thought of a design change, and was wondering what your thoughts are. Instead of having the router bit riding on top of the wood, could you instead have it below. You could then use a standard straight-bit, rather than a flush trim bit (which will only ever be as accurate as the bearing is to the blade). The platform your workpiece rests on would be adjustable with screws so you can make sure it's perfectly aligned to the router bit. With the router underneath, the thickness of the workpiece you are cutting doesn't matter.
@ksp1278
@ksp1278 8 жыл бұрын
Actually, just thinking, probably easier to adjust the router height rather than making the platform adjustable. But still, I would be interested in your thoughts on having the router underneath the workpiece.
@johnjrgensen8877
@johnjrgensen8877 8 жыл бұрын
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@WV591
@WV591 11 жыл бұрын
Very clever on leaving that gap between fence and table
@bretjohnston6725
@bretjohnston6725 8 жыл бұрын
Hi John really good idea, I have ordered the same router and will build as per your idea. Thank you
@ww55d
@ww55d 11 жыл бұрын
this would also work well for rabbets with a rabbeting bit or a slot cutting bits.. excellent..
@MULALIC101
@MULALIC101 7 жыл бұрын
Šta ljudi nece sve smisliti . dobra ideja i pomoc pri radu . ...
@deezynar
@deezynar 12 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! I've never seen anything like it before. Very original. You didn't say anything about it, and the view of it isn't great, but it seems there's a gap w/ a gutter between the table edge and the fence. That's a pretty critical design feature for this tool. Can you elaborate on that a bit? Again, great idea!
@deezynar
@deezynar 12 жыл бұрын
To do this on a regular router table or a horizontal router table, you'd need a false fence w/ a gap. See my comment below. That wouldn't be hard to make or put on when you need it. However, this setup he has here is pretty easy to make & doesn't take up much room. He says he does a lot of this type of work so it's worth making one.
@reunioncommittee3726
@reunioncommittee3726 5 жыл бұрын
why do you need a cam? why dont you just free play it since the router bit bearing will automatically follow the thickness of the ply. great idea though
@niklasschenck8486
@niklasschenck8486 10 жыл бұрын
Install the router fixed at the same height as the white board and use a router bit without bearing. It can also be done on any sharper or router table. Or simply just buy a lipping planer. Lamello, Hofmann or Virutex.
@walterrider9600
@walterrider9600 8 жыл бұрын
thank you the ideas you come up with stagger my Imagination
@Mr2at
@Mr2at 12 жыл бұрын
not seen anything like that before, great idea
@velcroman11
@velcroman11 12 жыл бұрын
Rather than the manually adjusted height cam, could the cam be moved to just before the router cutting bit so that as the work was introduced to the router bit the adjustment cam lifted the cutter to the correct height?
@abdullahsoud7031
@abdullahsoud7031 11 жыл бұрын
Hi...its SAM from Kuwait .. its grate idea but instead of using MDF use plastic transparent and instead of nail use scroll with nut and shave it ! good luck
@Pantorouter
@Pantorouter 12 жыл бұрын
very nice idea!!! i think i can try this idea on my hybrid pantorouter.thanx for sharing.
@VipinKumar-fw9wn
@VipinKumar-fw9wn 4 жыл бұрын
very good machine
@JohnHeisz
@JohnHeisz 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@remi0321
@remi0321 4 жыл бұрын
nice build
@paul9813
@paul9813 9 жыл бұрын
Very clever jig!
@emintivo
@emintivo 10 жыл бұрын
Nice. Great idea John
@JohnHeisz
@JohnHeisz 12 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@realprojecttools3543
@realprojecttools3543 5 ай бұрын
do you have video how to make that edge bander trimmer jig?
@stringmanipulator
@stringmanipulator 10 жыл бұрын
Very clever idea!! I've learned a lot from your videos. Thanks for sharing your knowledge! Are you happy with that router? I'm fixing to buy 2 new routers, a small laminate router like the one you have in the video, and a bigger 1/2" router.. can't afford to go crasy with it so .. :) no festool for me.. hehehe
@patrickberry1596
@patrickberry1596 10 жыл бұрын
Nice job sir!
@mrabimohammad9280
@mrabimohammad9280 3 жыл бұрын
Really nice
@Yevgen6R
@Yevgen6R 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome tutorial! Thank you very much!
@Woodentoolcompany2
@Woodentoolcompany2 11 жыл бұрын
Nice. I built something like this a few years ago.
@tomwags4238
@tomwags4238 10 жыл бұрын
Very ingenious.
@sidwiavh7472
@sidwiavh7472 10 жыл бұрын
What grade of plywood do you use, that you want to cover up the material you're using?
@carlossilva2640
@carlossilva2640 9 жыл бұрын
Muito engenhoso e bem feito amigo! Parabéns e gostava de saber k material leva e os passos a dar p montar!
@LiloUkulele
@LiloUkulele 11 жыл бұрын
So, it is the spring tension that keeps the bearing in contact with the work and not the cam?
@JonJon-gu7xy
@JonJon-gu7xy 12 жыл бұрын
how do u run the uneven edge banding along the fence on an ordinary router table? You just gonna use no fence and run it on its end? kinda hard to balance that way... I NEED A ROUTER TABLE!
@lunhil12
@lunhil12 12 жыл бұрын
Cool setup.
@owenjennings8575
@owenjennings8575 6 жыл бұрын
Simply brilliant.
@kundanlalahirwar3764
@kundanlalahirwar3764 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea
@Noeman2009
@Noeman2009 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome...I need to build this one..
@SawyersMusic
@SawyersMusic 10 жыл бұрын
Hey john I built one of these pretty much the same as yours. I'm having trouble getting it to cut close enough without taking of the plywood veneer. Any tips?
@luciocarrozzo6738
@luciocarrozzo6738 10 жыл бұрын
Apply tape on the veneer side that way will keep the cutter .010mm above veneer and with light sand should make it perfect
@SawyersMusic
@SawyersMusic 10 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you that's a great tip!! Thank you
@luciocarrozzo6738
@luciocarrozzo6738 10 жыл бұрын
you welcome
@JohnHeisz
@JohnHeisz 10 жыл бұрын
The router is supposed to be tilted up at the back slightly - that's the 2 degrees thing in the plans and article.
@SawyersMusic
@SawyersMusic 10 жыл бұрын
Yes I have the 2 degree bevel you are talking about I got it to work a long time ago thanks for your guys help
@datngophanduy4516
@datngophanduy4516 9 жыл бұрын
can you help to advise for router blade , video show how router blade cutting
@Jcvicente18
@Jcvicente18 3 жыл бұрын
Good Morning! I not found de dimentions sheet, I only found a 3D model. Can you help me? I lake make one for me...Thanks very much!
@JohnHeisz
@JohnHeisz 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks again!
@ColtWorks100
@ColtWorks100 5 жыл бұрын
do you get any chipping with the veneered edgebanding?
@RichardDrempt
@RichardDrempt 9 жыл бұрын
Wow, nice jig!
@luciocarrozzo6738
@luciocarrozzo6738 10 жыл бұрын
Hi John, was just wondering why you would need the cam, as having the bearing on the flush bit would in essence act as a self adjusting cam at the same time.
@oluyemiogunjimi549
@oluyemiogunjimi549 10 жыл бұрын
I thought so too. The spring pulls the router down and the bearing ensures the cutting distance. The cam actually reduces the adaptability of the system to any size of plywood.
@JohnHeisz
@JohnHeisz 10 жыл бұрын
That question was asked before and the answer is in the other comments. Basically, it pre-sets the height.
@RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse
@RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse 10 жыл бұрын
The cam relieves stress from the router bit. I imagine that whole setup with the plywood, the mashine itself plus the spring will put quite a bit of shearing forces to the bit. I can't imagine that would be desirable... or healthy... or sane. Using the cam to preset the thickness should help there.
@paul9813
@paul9813 9 жыл бұрын
Lucio Carrozzo Imagine if there wasn't a cam...as the work piece entered it would bang into the bearing. the cam sets the bearing height so it's just below the work piece surface allowing the bearing to ride up on it easily. the cam should not be making contact during the cutting operation.
@calebbrady1606
@calebbrady1606 9 жыл бұрын
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@ineedtwo5360
@ineedtwo5360 3 жыл бұрын
What bits you used?
@OneManBandWoodworks
@OneManBandWoodworks 10 жыл бұрын
Awesome, you are a genius
@okimike100
@okimike100 10 жыл бұрын
Good job!
@andrewchow9453
@andrewchow9453 11 жыл бұрын
maybe adding a port for attaching the shop vac.?
@kickstein
@kickstein 6 жыл бұрын
Good video editing.
@738polarbear
@738polarbear 8 жыл бұрын
Sorry but I do not see the advantage of this over the. router bit in a router table. The purpose of the bearing is to limit the amount the blade removes isn't it?
@bigandy1982
@bigandy1982 6 жыл бұрын
Good work lad.
@Gnomenome
@Gnomenome 10 жыл бұрын
perfect job
@DIYModernTwins
@DIYModernTwins 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@andregross7420
@andregross7420 12 жыл бұрын
Very nice!
@woodstoney
@woodstoney 12 жыл бұрын
Great demonstration but this is basically a horizontal router table. With all due respect, couldn't you accomplish the same thing if you used an ordinary router table?
@Jcvicente18
@Jcvicente18 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry! my ask is about "Making An Edge Banding Trimmer Attachment"
@deezynar
@deezynar 12 жыл бұрын
BTW, liked, favorited, and shared on Facebook.
@us410
@us410 9 жыл бұрын
Band-it paintable edging
@chincw1215
@chincw1215 8 жыл бұрын
very good
@DmitriyKucenko
@DmitriyKucenko 10 жыл бұрын
Очень интересно !
@RGplayer101
@RGplayer101 12 жыл бұрын
nice
@Fernanderas2011
@Fernanderas2011 7 жыл бұрын
This trimmer is great, thank you for the video, I have a few questions for you, may I have an email please ...thank you for your time
@1124chichi
@1124chichi 7 жыл бұрын
fymm
@dostonqodirov9088
@dostonqodirov9088 3 жыл бұрын
Yosun
@julungwangi3440
@julungwangi3440 7 жыл бұрын
inspirasi i..
@deevansingh3896
@deevansingh3896 7 жыл бұрын
wawan Supriyady.
@adrianadonis852
@adrianadonis852 10 жыл бұрын
Hi guys I live in Philadelphia Pa and have lots of PVC Edgebanding rolls i want to sell if anyone interested, send me a message.
@suzanneprotin4686
@suzanneprotin4686 6 жыл бұрын
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@الشيخ-ع6ب
@الشيخ-ع6ب 6 жыл бұрын
سخيف
@АлександрЛогачев-р6б
@АлександрЛогачев-р6б 3 жыл бұрын
Пустозвон.
@Benzknees
@Benzknees 9 жыл бұрын
Or you could use a plane and sandpaper.
@JohnHeisz
@JohnHeisz 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@andrewchow9453
@andrewchow9453 11 жыл бұрын
great idea!!
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