Edge Wanted Gangrel at Wrestlemania 39

[@CVVCLIPS]

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[@JoeChillton]

For a guy who never won a belt in there, Gangrel is an iconic gimmick. Right place and right time.

[@SparkyTakedown]

Agreed

[@philliphernandez2649]

Absolutely!

[@evilstarlegacy]

People do remember, and even if you fear people not reacting, it's Wrestlemania. The people who travel to Wrestlemania know. Anything that happened in the attitude era, people remember.

[@FR5DDY]

Brother...the general public actually struggled to recognize Cena's Dr. of Thuganomics when it first came back.

[@Zackuloid]

@@FR5DDY this is straight cope

[@alanguages]

@@Zackuloid Not exactly. It was likely Edge's Brood entrance in 2022 against the Miz. There was no reaction from the crowd. With that said, WrestleMania would likely be different as, the longtime fans would have watched it.

[@MachoGaming12345]

Dang, that would have been awesome. Wrestlemania 39 was my very first Wrestlemania. Edges entrance was awesome, and it would have been GOATED with Gangrel. Oh well. Maybe someday in AEW.

[@rkstevenson5448]

Heh, talk about a timely comment there...

[@maevethefox5912]

Oh, I woulda lost it. I've not been the closest follower of WWE for the last 10 years but hot dang, that older stuff will live in my brain forever.

[@callamastia]

we have internet. even people who weren’t alive during their run know who they are.

[@akillisjones5265]

you can never forget gangrel theme and entrance.

[@SwiftyDeejay]

“Wrestling fans want to be rewarded for remembering”. What a guy Edge is. Pure class.

[@TexasWreckShop]

I was EXTREMELY disappointed there was no Gangrel. It made so much sense

[@KRANative]

Gangrel had one of the best entrance during attitude

[@jpdafranchise]

Well, AEW just did it and Gangrel got a nice ovation for his return to help Adam Copeland (Edge) win...WWE had 1 job smh

[@Jinx_Me77]

Now it's definitely a possibility in AEW. Maybe during his entrance in the Double or Nothing barbed wire match against Malakai.

[@ricoexclusivo]

Gangrel’s theme is so underrated

[@TERRELL_GASKINS]

There's still hope Edge make it happen in AEW

[@thebunnygod1605]

Do they own the entrance?

[@JayBurris100]

Most likely will Aew has already brought Gangrel back for The Hardys

[@Bls-of1ld]

​@@thebunnygod1605No

[@intothedeepstate7491]

Cope.

[@ashtonhaggitt216]

Lmfaooooooo

[@werewolflover8636]

You’re a good man Adam.

[@ThunderForce2000]

I do remember The New Day doing a parody of The Brood on SmackDown and it didn’t get much of a reaction.

[@bellicoso]

and thats the point, for me it was great but the reaction was painfull

[@McCheeseincakes]

That's one location. If you've ever watched a WWE show from Corpus Christi TX then you know sometimes the crowds just inherently suck.

[@coreyortiz9913]

@@McCheeseincakes true I think hardcore cities like New York, Philadelphia, Chicago etc would get much better reception

[@gantashiro978]

Some crowds just suck that's all

[@lylaznboi01]

It really does depend on the crowd. If it was in front of a hardcore wrestling crowd, whether it be casual or legitimately hardcore fan base, I think more people would have reacted to the cosplay.

[@chrisdobbin5834]

Gangrel is the legit vampire of wwe

[@desmondscoby1943]

We remember EVERYTHING Think we don't You don't know wrestling

[@BillyBeenFishing]

Great idea!

[@truezalexander4010]

Bro the 3 were inconic. Vampires I remember. Same with the big boss man being hung by undertaker. Best years of wrestling

[@drewdrewson1384]

such an out of touch thought to think "no body remembers". I'm pretty sure wrestling is still as big as it is because of the entire nostalgia industry that thrives to this day. First from wrestlers making comebacks, then the conventions, and now the seemingly endless amount of podcasts about the business, especially the 90's era.

[@710moose8]

Gangrel is so underrated it’s fucking sad.

[@kenpachizaraki8509]

No he not he was cool that’s it ..never was a good worker stop the 🧢

[@notjpegmafia9690]

Overrated? He was a great character and nothing more? Tf did you expect at the peak of the attitude era? Gangrel to beat stone cold or the rock? Overrated is such a misused word by wrestling fans these days

[@QuattroSG]

Nah the other guy is right, his gimmick was great but that’s about it. Nothing against him I really liked the character and the brood faction, but Im not going to pretend he had unrecognized potential, it’s pretty well known he didn’t really put much effort into his work in the wwf.

[@WrestlingXVIII]

So we're just going disrespect Gangrel moveset as a wrestler. Gangrel can wrestle thats all that matters ​@@QuattroSG

[@ajreese846]

He really tried for us. shout out edge

[@TransfixusNonMortuus]

I love a good call back

[@KareemTaylor]

I loved The Brood however I don’t think WWE has done enough reminding / promoting of the group since 1998. Probably a hard sell. I’m a fan so I’d love it but WWE should include The Brood in their promo packages and stuff to remind folks how good the group was and how much fans enjoyed it.

[@IfYouWantBlood1]

Nostalgia is always good no matter what it’s in, wrestling or anything else.

[@ScottFree-GB]

It's good as long as you don't always live in the past

[@almightytowerdiveking4636]

I always go crazy when I hear the most badass theme song ever created for WWE. How could you forget The Brood?

[@DementedNun121]

Fans do remember, from Gangrel and Luna to may young flashing the audience too bertha fay and harvey we remember it all.

[@cjdebord7310]

I mean maybe some younger fans who aren’t as familiar with the Attitude Era wouldn’t have remembered, but I think many fans would have and it would have gotten an reaction

[@Ok.I.Pull.Up.420]

That last line is super profound about the sandbox

[@_NutcasE_]

"wrestling fans will remember" not always, Not even most of the time. in internet it might seem like it but when we have a huge collab of moments WWE brought people back but the crowd didnt either know or remember they were. It's very plausible that Gangrel would have met dead silence.

[@JACQUEZ23]

Not it's not

[@joaopedroribaslyraloes]

I agree with you to a degree, I think most people don’t remember but it’s also a case of knowing when to do something like this, it has to be in front of a more hardcore crowd, and wrestlemania probably is the case.

[@_NutcasE_]

@@JACQUEZ23 "NO ITS NOT MY EMOTIONS DENY IT!" thats not how this works.

[@_NutcasE_]

@@joaopedroribaslyraloes I would agree with you but, the demographic of the people going into these shows get younger. Like night 1 of Wrestlemania 40 was almost dead. crowds like France Backlash are very rare. Like no kidding the french made philly look tame. You are relying that A. People who were around when the returning star was active are in the crowd, B. There is enough of them to give a shit. C.That the crowd is interacting with what is happening at all. We have had legends return to WWE to dead silent crowds. People might carry on cheering for A returning legend if the momentum is on. But given that we have had PPV's with dead crowds. and recently had Half of WM and Royal Rumble both have very silent ones. I wouldnt say that just the occasion would have people expecting it.

[@spudashley]

Sid

[@MM.MischiefManaged]

And now AEW did it! Huge missed opportunity by WWE since imo they did do The Brood entrance kinda better, but missing the key ingredients, Gangrel & Christian.

[@CaliforniaDreamin.]

People DEF would have remembered. I’m 33 and grew up with the Brood. WWE has some odd lines of thinking… wouldn’t Triple H know the fans would remember Gangrel?

[@refinedsugar]

Longtime wrestling fans will remember. The live audience ... not so much.

[@kingkem_113]

Who’s here after he did it in aew ?

[@prasithoudomvilay8454]

I remembered gangrel when he was with edge and remembered he betrayed undertaker in 2004! It happened on aew that he appeared

[@jasongkelly]

Cope here is talking about how he couldn't get a Gangrel cameo at Wrestlemania 39 knowing full well at Double or Nothing he was gonna get a Gangrel cameo and kept a straight face.

[@TheSlamSociety]

I'm so sick of that attitude. Trust me. So many people would have gone nuts for Gangrel.

[@cappy2282]

Gangrel was cool 😎

[@theelusiveman9706]

I’m so glad this happened in AEW, maybe when Adam returns we will get a New Brood.

[@Raven-HQ]

Well guy is at AEW now and we have seen Gangrel on AEW television already. Now they did the blood bath so might as well call Dave man.

[@Brandonohio]

Ironically it happened

[@aurelionsolph]

Edge Christian gangrel needs to be the main highlight of Villian the next ministry of darkness .... I love edge Christian & gangrel ❤

[@geneanthony3421]

People remember guys who make an impression, Gangrel to me made an impression.

[@kronvlat]

i hope everybody that said "nobody remembers" saw the pop Gangrel got at double or nothing.

[@michaellobo4354]

Edge gets it

[@kenterminateddq5311]

It's sad that even The New Day dressed up as The Brood had little reaction from the WWE Universe. Maybe that's another reason WWE didn't want to bring back Gangrel.

[@lamelama22]

It's even more ridiculous that it wouldn't really cost anything. I think it's simply moreso that in recent years, WWE, for better or worse, doesn't want to bring in "outsiders" for one-off special appearances, unless they're under a WWE legends contract & exclusive to WWE (& have to be big enough). Pros and cons. Edge didn't get Gangrel in his Brood entrance at WM39. Cody didn't get Cardona or, more importantly, Dustin / Goldust at WM40. WWE would prefer to use their legends, like sweatpants Taker, rather than tell the best story, which, in some ways, makes sense, especially for the casual fan. Bring out all the big past names for the finale of Wrestlemania. Cardona 100% would have done it and was in town (possibly backstage), but he's been very clear he doesn't want to be exclusive & wants to keep doing indies, TNA, etc. As for Goldust, previously AEW had basically offered to let WWE use a person, but didn't want $, all they wanted was a passing shout-out on air, like "but he wrestles in AEW" and that was a hard no for HHH. Robbed us of the best ending. But it makes sense in some ways business wise.

[@anthonythompson4110]

That could have been an awesome match

[@zacharyscott6779]

I think what makes WWE nervous about fans "not remembering" - ill never forget when Sid Vicious showed up about a decade ago (give or take a few years) and it was SILENT. No pop, no cheer/boo, nothing. Same thing when Evolution got back together against the Shield. The Evolution theme is playing, its great to see those 3 together again, no reaction. Instead the crowd does a "yes" chant wanting Daniel Bryan of all people. There's a big risk bringing back someone whos not legendary status like Austin, Rock, Bret, etc. Nobody wants to go out there and the crowd not react to them.

[@jays447]

Gangrel coming back would've been a great idea and it was turned down. Damn you Vin- Oh wait... we can't blame Vince for unpopular decisions anymore 🤨

[@JOBdOut]

Timeline still fits Kevin Dunn - the king of the "nobody knows who that guy is" argument

[@jays447]

Triple H took over WWE in 2022 and they turned down an appearance by Gangrel in 2023. So that’s on ‘pAPa H’. Do people have posters of Triple H above his bed to signify that he can’t be held accountable for anything that goes wrong in WWE?

[@jays447]

Triple H took over WWE in 2022 and they turned down an appearance by Gangrel in 2023. So that’s on ‘pAPa H’. Do people have posters of Triple H above his bed to signify that he can’t be held accountable for anything that goes wrong in WWE?

[@jays447]

Triple H took over WWE in 2022 and they turned down an appearance by Gangrel in 2023. So that’s on ‘pAPa H’. Do people have posters of Triple H above his bed to signify that he can’t be held accountable for anything that goes wrong in WWE?

[@jays447]

Triple H took over WWE in 2022 and they turned down an appearance by Gangrel in 2023. So that’s on ‘pAPa H’. Do people have posters of Triple H above his bed to signify that he can’t be held accountable for anything that goes wrong in WWE?

[@StayInYourPlace]

Maybe because Christian wasnt there... maybe they want them all to be remembered as a trios.

[@KeldorTheWhite]

Gangrel gets two pops for this moment if it happened. The first, from the fans that remember, the second because he looks cool and had "it". Simple as that.

[@SmokeyRobbinson]

They wouldn’t bring in Gangrel because “no one would remember” but they bring in The headbangers bruh wtf 😂😂😂😂

[@BIGDOGGG62]

Who’s here after double or nothing?

[@AlphaRG224]

I mean having him wouldn't have taken away from the entrance especially since edge starting use the brood theme again. If gangrel went out there and got no reaction at least you know it didn't work rather than thinking it wasn't going to work. Didn't wwe also think the rock was gonna get cheered straight after cody said he ain't fight roman until he got booed heavily the next raw and had to change plans

[@NoahSmith-Tahle1217]

Fans would remember are you kidding me. People loved the Broód. I would of paid money just for that one match,. Gangrel is so underrated. Of course I know how they are with blood,

[@May9k]

weird that they would say no one will remember when wwe (at least used to) heavily rely on bringing back older wrestlers without giving them a story.

[@AsadKhan-lu8kx]

If someone living in a ghost town in Pakistan still remembers and plays their theme music on long drives, there's a chance people in California might not confuse them with the Headbangers! PS: Kulachi is the name of the town ;)

[@nelsonortiz9295]

gangrel hasn't been seen on wwe tv in like 25 years i dont blame wwe for this

[@coreyortiz9913]

I was about say has it really been that long since gambrel was in WWE then I realized the last time he was there was on smackdown in 2004 so abut 20 years now

[@hardcorenativextreme]

He obviously done something to either piss someone off or to think he is not worthy enough.

[@CactusJack252]

Oh I remember!

[@exactinmidget92]

No one remembers? It's pretty hard to forget a vampire. Then again New Day did the brood entrance and you could hear crickets.

[@DrLynch2009]

And it happened...

[@TrussMEonthis]

Hunters in charge now can make it happen

[@joe77750]

He seems the type to hate the nostalgia pop, last 2 rumbles have sucked for me due to no legends returning

[@cryptokingdom78]

Makes no sense Gangrel entertaining and a good overall wrestler

[@chriswinter8511]

They prob said no for 2 reasons.... 1. Gangrel has directed porn movies, 2. Gangrel is character from some sorta card game and WWE have to buy the licence to use it on TV.

[@deikbeck]

I kinda agree with you partially but not on the porn directing. He did that seperate from the Gangrel character so it's likely not a big factor. The issue lies with WWE never owning the rights to the name Gangrel. I remember the credits or Raw always mentioned Gangrel being the property of White Wolf productions. They would likely gouge the price for them to use the name, damn I would do it too if I owned the name. I'm guessing Vince was glad to be rid of him once he realized they were paying another company for his name. 🤷🏻

[@chriswinter8511]

@@deikbeck He did the porn directing with the theme of Gangrel. That 6ft 8 woman they had like 14 years ago (Aloise?) goit released early as they found out about her adult work under a different name, I think.

[@MrRabiddogg]

a lot of things WWE does doesn't make sense.

[@MPHswayze]

True, but a lot of things wrestlers want don't make sense and Edge is one of the worst culprits

[@JACQUEZ23]

​@@MPHswayzerespect edge

[@anon-rf5sx]

So if they said no to Gangrel because no one remembers anymore, why did they say yes to the Brood theme? If there's anyone who remembers the Brood, they will remember Gangrel, Edge and Christian as the three of them.

[@bashcrash9148]

Not only would we have remembered but we also would’ve popped for it.

[@coreyortiz9913]

well you're not 90% of the crowd smh

[@bashcrash9148]

@@coreyortiz9913 Oh. Okay. WWE: Remember the Brood? You remember the Brood. Also WWE: You don’t remember Gangrel.

[@undertheskysoblue5477]

I think this is a little misconstrued to WWE Exec's probable view, and I dont think it was intentional on Edge's part in saying it. I doubt WWE execs were saying that no one remembers the history. They were saying they didn't believe people remembered the Brood outside a niche audience. Remember, during this return run of Edge's, they had Edge and Angle skits, Edge and Rey callbacks, Cena and Edge had interaction, Edge and Christian had a Rumble moment, Edge and Orton got their moments, etc. I think they worried the Brood was too niche for their majority audience. Which would mean Gangrel may not be worth the money for them to bring in.

[@pinkbeatle2012]

it would of been epic

[@kirkisthabombliketictic]

That’s an insult to the wrestling community. We absolutely remember. It was a huge part of the attitude era.

[@hessiankyojin]

What about Alter Bridge playing Metallingus live?😊

[@rkstevenson5448]

This sounds an awful lot like Triple H or someone just not liking Gangrel, because there's no good reason not to bring him in on something like that. We don't remember? Horseshit. Of *course* we remember. At least AEW was smart enough to take advantage and do what WWE should have done.

[@thebatmanwhoposts9600]

When he came out to the Brood theme the crowd didn't react much.

[@XTR02]

I mean, I can’t blame them for thinking fans don’t remember. It probably true. Edge can make it happen in AEW but what, in front of a small crowd? Better leave the past in the past.

[@intothedeepstate7491]

Vince really was right about everything.

[@xTruthxWithinx]

WWE is wrong for that

[@ParticleLarry]

Was it because of the bangin ?

[@karrr1573]

IWC isn't the entire fan base. Grand Master Sexay returned after just 10 years in 2011 to a pin drop silence from the crowd. Gangrel is at least 20 years in the rear view mirror.

[@AlanJ1993]

Yeah i mean sadly it is a different audience, like when Divas comeback they barely get a reaction, when Mickey James would wrestle she would get no reaction what chances are there for Gangrel? maybe the WM Crowd would have been right its hard to say.

[@ApricotGaming774]

First to like. We needed Gangrel what a missed opportunity

[@FaridArcade]

Yea. WWE always Hit and Miss on certain occasions. Well, He's in the Indes now. He can help young talent and test out his creative ideas

[@coreyortiz9913]

well WWE was right because when new day did a brood tribute on Halloween the crowd was dead

[@dtester]

Not sure about that logic as why would they remember "Brood" Edge then? The real reason was they didn't want to pay for him. ^_^

[@thet3504]

I Was hoping for The Brood.. Just like I hoped Golddust came to help Cody and NOT Undertaker

[@morningstarlux]

Shame. Gangrel is the nicest wrestler ive met. He deserved a moment

[@jaredjds2011]

Bro people would have remembered him. That’s a BS excuse lol. Him rising outta the fire with his sunglasses, the crowd would have loved that.

[@ahmedchowdhury8012]

This is why Cm Punk left in 2012 for this type of nonsense from WWE until everything had changed now he made his return.

[@JanLoDuca]

Gangrel to turn up at his match against Malakai Black

[@alternative7586]

"No one remembers" Definitely Kevin Dunn who said that. Good riddance to that Buck teethed nightmare

[@TodaysNHLaction]

Hahahah remember when he did just that again

[@liquiddookie7526]

Judging by the reaction the Brood theme got, seems it was a good idea to shut it down.

[@chopkix]

The reason being no one would remember is a cop out wtf

[@mclovinu69]

It's because Gangrel had a history in the porn industry. Same reason Chyna was benoit'd for WWE until she died.

[@AbrahamRomero316]

I remembered and I was Exited and thought he was really gonna come out

[@Smackattackk]

you need some rest Adam.

[@user-qe9pk7sm4i]

would've been cool, but it wasn't necessary

[@seano79]

Too bad that would have been cool.

[@MPHswayze]

Edge has a lot of terrible ideas and this was one of them. "'Member these references?" isnt a good enough reason to do every dumb idea