Polycultures and Guilds - Episode 1 - Apples -n- more!

[@hhwippedcream]

Thank you for the fabulous explanations and insight. We love our "packed" forest system. A lot can be learned from memories of cheap buffets of yore. They always put the big-ticket foods towards the end of the line. The same goes with repelling pest damage. Offering one's prized planting out with no sides or garnishes ensures it will be enjoyed by the first hungry critter to come along. It is easy to forget that pruning can accomplish much in a small space. Thanks again for sharing your experience and insight!

[@tophercIaus]

Please make more of these! Polyculture is the area I'm most interested in at the moment. This would be great.

[@edibleacres]

I plan to make a number of these videos as we get back into spring. For now, you may want to subscribe to get the newest videos. Thanks for your comments!

[@wilsondeshawn6847]

I realize it's kinda off topic but do anybody know a good place to watch new movies online?

[@mycedarridge]

Right now my (very young) Orchard is just mulch and trees! This was VERY informative and I can't wait to begin planting under the trees!

[@TheVigilantStewards]

Thanks for talking about rhizome barriers and deer deflectors etc. I love the idea of learning about designing polyculture guild cells

[@rachelgucker4238]

Another vote to continue these videos! I'd love to see what DIDN'T work also.

[@sintodomatria]

Please make more of everything!!! Thank you! I think I’m forming an obsession to this way of life you’re so inspiring.

[@SkotColacicco]

What an incredible video! Very well described. Please bring us more!!! I know that not all of these plants work so well in my zone 9a (Coastal Central CA), but the more I watch polycultures like this, my instincts seem to improve. Thank you!!!

[@edibleacres]

That was the whole point of these series... Rather than showing specific plantings that I think people should do, it's about getting patterns and concepts moving forward. The structure, relationships and thinking are what really matter...

[@SkotColacicco]

Indeed! It took a while to change my mindset from rows, to spirals and waves. And then another little while for interactive-relationships to really click. But once it does, Nature just takes over and things get really fun!!! I really appreciate your description of hedging your bets (punny....hehe) with the three trees. That was something that I have not come across in the many good books of this genre. Maybe it's so simple that no one thinks to include it? It certainly gave me an 'aha' moment with a particular plant grouping I'm dealing with right now.

[@PermacultureHomestead]

ahhhh yes i love guild building. have multiple guilds on site, honing the herbaceous ground covers now for my zone.

[@rianajansevanrensburg2444]

I just stumbled on guilds and found your video and loved it. Thanks for sharing and continously sharing what you have learned. I started gardening with no knowledge and learn from people like you

[@PermaPen]

I love polycultures and guilds! I've just started an allotment, deliberately planting things every which way to see what happens. I'm very much of the view that it's production-per-metre not production-per-plant that counts. So, yes, more please.....

[@monicad33]

I would like to see more in this series. Thank you for taking the time!

[@edibleacres]

kzbin.info/aero/PLihFHKqj6Jer0TiNed-yZ_grWwzEzCuGC - Heres a playlist of polycultures for you!

[@JoeyMeans]

Please make more of these! Thank you!

[@CuriousinNY]

Yes. I hope you are continuing to make films like these. I am going to go through your play list and see how many of these type of videos you have and watch them all.

[@edibleacres]

kzbin.info/aero/PLihFHKqj6Jer0TiNed-yZ_grWwzEzCuGC - A playlist I put together that groups all the videos we have that discuss inter-relationships with perennial plants. Hope you find it useful!

[@petercramer4019]

Yes please, add more! These are great and inspiring. Thank you!

[@elainegranzow9755]

Please do more. Polyculture and guild building are what I need to learn most of all !

[@alicepettit164]

Yes individual polycultures please. Planning and planting guilds right now.

[@ladylrbnaturelife]

So it’s 6 years later 😊 you mentioned an update on these polycultures, i would love to see how close your predictions were!

[@CanadianFarmGirl1]

Absolutely love this video!

[@charlesbale8376]

I really enjoyed the video and appreciated the information.

[@olgakuchukov6981]

So helpful! Kudos! Hooray! Already I’m thinking differently.

[@scottcomella2264]

I recommend burdock as an addition. The young leaf stems are absolutely delicious par boiled then fried in a fritter batter like you'd do with elder berry flowers. The more mature plant provides shade, the deep taproot pulls up nutrients and is medicinal in nature when harvested.

[@studioEARL]

Sean, I was in Ithaca last weekend and didn't think until after that we left that I should have visited... next time for sure... love the video. keep them coming.

[@TylerScotPK]

You are a great communicator.

[@edibleacres]

I appreciate that very much

[@TheNdoodly]

Great series, I was making notes and easily filled many pages so much info. How do you talk without sounding breathless . Awesome job. Will be using as much ideas in our future guilds, planning to plant fruits on our brook banks. Keep doing, thanks

[@elysejoseph]

Very interested to see more as well!

[@hadleyjack]

Yes, want to see more. So inspiring. Thank you.

[@alicepettit164]

So surprised at your mentioning the trees could survive that close together. I can't imagine but I'm following.

[@squirefergus]

More Please! There seems to be so little on actual polycultural guilds I really appreciate and enjoy this sort of thing as it's what I'm working on here in Kentucky with pawpaw, apple, peach and pear - so far ;). Also i gotta say I really found your P-skills presentations thought provoking, informative and inspiring. Thanks and yes! more please.

[@edibleacres]

Thanks for the kind words. It's been my pleasure to share the things I'm picking up as I go along. I'll be sure to add more videos soon!

[@refkenc]

Yes, do more

[@clairekrauss4202]

this is wonderful. I have subscribed and look forward to watching more!

[@harriettejensen479]

Yes, lots of ideas!

[@chfermetteaneyork4179]

definitly want to see more of them!

[@Warrior-In-the-Garden]

Definitely would like more videos like this. Thanks.

[@lillianbarke890]

YES! MORE!

[@latishamom2eight127]

YES MORE VIDEOS!!! 😊

[@shanemwebb84]

More please! About to watch part 2.

[@dandingo168]

Yes I would like to see more of these videos

[@hopegap9508]

Thank you so much for all this information about the poly cultures, I really am gaining great knowledge about how to set these up for success!

[@edibleacres]

Thats awesome. I like to share these so I'll keep doing them.

[@gregsumner3991]

Yes, please. I am using your video tips to develop my kailyaird.

[@indigoashleyartist]

Please do more of these!! :) I'm planting my first apple tree guilds right now. Thank you!

[@edibleacres]

Glad you find it useful:)

[@bot-ip1lu]

such a good video thank you

[@jonathanaylward886]

Would definitely like to see more of those!

[@kyleyoung8707]

Awesome stuff

[@samerazar]

Nice system! can we use all the space in the orchard? Since I saw huge empty spaces. Also can we use miyawaki practice? I am thinking about the abundancy of food

[@willmcmanus1413]

Hi - thanks very much for your videos, they're really keeping me going through a grey english winter! Love what your covering and love your delivery. I'd be interested to know when you planted the persimmon and pawpaw. They're much smaller than the apple, so did they go in a year or two afterwards?

[@edibleacres]

They did. Both went in I believe either one or two years after the apple. That, and they are on the north of the apple so that slows them down, and just a little slower in general. But the nice thing is they can sneak up slowly and steadily and be ready to take over if needed or just push outward if thats the way fate determines...

[@willmcmanus1413]

thanks for the reply. I guess the approach should mean that, whichever tree does win out, it's strong and well suited to that site. It'll be interesting to come back to this trio in a year or two!

[@marklewis4793]

yes,.please...thank you,

[@dwills135]

Yes I would like to see more.

[@KudosMagazine]

Loved this video!!! Planning to plant an apple tree, think I will being adding currant and a very other goodies! Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I subscribed to your channel and plan to watch more!

[@finnkelcher5558]

Marvelous series keep it up! Does anyone know of plants that repel wild goats from fruit trees? the goats round here try to eat most things. i am planting my bigger trees into existing Gorse bushes which stops the possums and usually slows the goats a bit but its soo prickly.

[@jpkrushat]

Do MORE!!!!

[@edibleacres]

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[@jessicajansson1203]

I would love to see follow ups on your guilds.

[@edibleacres]

Definitely plan to do a bunch this year.

[@oOSabianOo]

I just subbed in the hope that you will do more of these. Thank you

[@robertharcourt7650]

Yes, please bring moreof this type of video ;)

[@Ghost2743]

More!

[@slamallama2385]

More! Even better, write a book about it!

[@kirstenwhitworth8079]

This video was the one that made me subscribe to your channel last year. Now I am watching it again because I am creating my own apple guilds, and wanted to revisit your placement for comfrey and rhubarb. Here's the thing. My guilds are slightly different based on available plant propagules. One species in two varieties that I am adding is Lupinus for several reasons, N-fixation being one. The thing is, they need full- or mostly sunny locations. I'm worried that if I plant them on the south side they'll be smothered by either comfrey, rhubarb or both. Do you have any thoughts? I'm also planning to add Monarda didyma and possibly Echinacea as pollinator attractors, though these can be further to the west or east of the apple.

[@edibleacres]

Glad you came back to it! You may want to have the lupine have more space between comfrey and rhubarb, or plan to plant them near but intend to manage the comfrey and rhubarb to cut them back / harvest / chop and drop to keep the lupin in the game. I think you can manage that trio to keep them balanced while getting yields. Or consider a lupine side that is it's own (it's a strong contender as rhizome barrier I'd think?) and have comfrey and rhubarb in their own blocks. bee balm/ech/etc. could hang out between the big bombers on the edges and the tree I'd think.

[@kirstenwhitworth8079]

Thanks! I'll play around with the guilds around each tree - they weren't ever going to be the same for each tree anyway. Your comments are ever so appreciated.

[@BioGartenReich]

Hi, I love your videos - you're a great inspiration. I have one question - I planted an apple tree and I would like to plant something bigger behind it to the north side so you can't see through it anymore. What do you recommend? I planted hazel but I've been told that that is not a good idea. Now I was thinking elder berry. What do you think? Thanks

[@edibleacres]

You want a privacy barrier? How tall do you want the northern element to get overall? I would encourage you thinking about a Nitrogen Fixing or support plant to help nourish the apple, like an Autumn Olive or a Goumi or Silverberry...

[@BioGartenReich]

Great, I also thought about the Autumn Olive although it is not as common here in Germany. I will plant one. Thank you so much for your answer! Love your videos and hope to see many more of your inspirations. Not really a pricacy barrier, but I want to create different rooms in the garden - it was only lawn before and it is a long piece of land.

[@ImproveYourMagic]

Post more please!

[@GriffenNaif]

1) Can you give your thoughts on the EGW tree planting method. Ellen G White. Seems like a ton of work. I get the rock / rocks. The tube would help store CO2 for later release... watching many videos and see no good reviews. What method do you use to plant trees in your climate? Story Presently I'm in SF area and had to plant right on clay/ bedrock. Took me 8 hours of air hammering to get down 3.5 feet to plant a redwood. 4 trees and it cost me 32 hours plus planting time. This was all 20 years ago. Azomite and my wide deep hole has seen my redwoods grow 3x the rate of neighbors. But ohhh the cost.

[@edibleacres]

I don't know about that planting method so I can't say. I wonder why you'd need to dig so deep to plant a tree? I'd suggest strongly looking into much smaller trees that require much smaller holes. You can plant so many more for your time and cost and they will find their own way through the soil as they generally do!

[@DrJohn89]

awesome stuff - please do share more :) very infromative

[@DrJohn89]

and a pond update :D

[@edibleacres]

Bone dry :) No video needed... We're in drought right now. But for real, I'll offer some updates later in the season. They are tiny and leaky and mainly act as batteries to store big rain events...

[@joydavis4087]

Thanks for this vid. I am wondering about paw paw pollination. How many trees do you need for pollination and what insect does this job. Thanks.

[@edibleacres]

The house fly does most of the pollination and you'd want at least 3-5 in an area for good effect.

[@martijnheeroma5492]

Great video, please teach me more to listen more carefully to nature.

[@hp4546]

6 years later... how goes the peach!? Also did the apple, pawpaw and persimmon all lean out or did something else happen?

[@edibleacres]

Time for an update it seems! Quick answer is the peach is winding down pretty thoroughly but the other characters are doing OK :)

[@hp4546]

@@edibleacres Only found your channel a few months ago so I get to see your initial ideas and follow them through over the years of recording. It's almost like a time capsule for us. Your channel is very motivating. Thanks heaps from Australia

[@MrBsmurfy]

have you tried bone sauce? if so thoughts?? planted approx 300 trees and at least half are ruined by hares/ rabbits....frustrating

[@edibleacres]

I plan to revisit bone sauce in the fall... Tried it a bit, but wasn't thorough in the process, not sure the quality was good. Looking forward to learning more about it. With rabbits there are a lot of thick growing perennial herbaceous plants that have helped me a lot... bee balm, anise hyssop, garlic, anything hardy and stinky!

[@PerimeterPermaculture]

So what are your thoughts on the supposed dynamic accumulator "myth" or that it is unsubstantiated?

[@edibleacres]

I'm not sure I know what you are referring to.

[@PerimeterPermaculture]

permaculturenews.org/2015/04/10/the-facts-about-dynamic-accumulators/

[@johnstonj92]

Despite the fact that (dynamic accumulators) may or may not bring extra nutrients up from the sub soil.. they do infact create deep pathways and aggregates in the soil allowing more oxygen for roots and microbial life and allowing more nematode like critters to dig down and eat up all the microbes .. in a way it is adding space in the soil for root growth and soil life to create nutrition for the plants around. Deep rooted plants will help leek all those sugars further into the soil ..sooo dynamic accumulators are helpful indeed.

[@dustinhoover3437]

Ever built guilds with figs?

[@edibleacres]

I haven't. They are super marginal in hardiness for our area. Some folks love working with them and trying to get them to produce where we are, but I just don't feel it's worth it. I focus on the plants that can blast through every winter and grow...

[@Soldier957]

Would be great to see rhis 10 years on.

[@edibleacres]

I should do an update video, would probably be 4-5 years later at least :). I plan on doing a lot more guild tour videos once plants green up this growing season.

[@gregsanderson2470]

After 6 years how's it going?

[@edibleacres]

Great question... Overall quite well, a good nudge to consider coming back to these series and making some actual updates!

[@gregsanderson2470]

@@edibleacres nudge nudge ah PUSH !! The real reason I've asked issss my trees and shrubs have been ordered and I'm planning the guilds. Also a mini greenhouse for propagation and starts is going up. So again how's it going??

[@travisdavis1042]

Do you offer any consulting services? I’d love to bend your ear about my food forest if you ever were able/wanted to.

[@edibleacres]

Feel free to email sean @ edibleacres.org and we can figure something out :)

[@JodyFrancisWall]

Paw paw takes years??? Surely we are thinking of two different plants. Please do share. I think our paw paw is your papaya.

[@edibleacres]

Asimina Triloba is who I'm talking about.

[@fernbutler8630]

Moar!

[@gelwood99]

This has been my biggest conundrum, why does man not learn from God's garden? He gave us food before we started cultivating. In simple ways, we should also mimic God's work which is what you have done here and what you continue to do!

[@humbllbug]

Yahshua - you know Him as Jesus - was born to a virgin, turned water to wine, taught, healed the sick, raised the dead, casted out demons, walked on water, calmed the storm, and fed a crowd of thousands with a few fish and a few loaves of bread on two separate occasions, among many other things. He was killed on the cross as payment for the sins of all mankind, three days later He rose from the dead. Forty days later He ascended into heaven where He sits at the right hand of the Father. He is returning very soon, but before He does, Satan, the devil, is coming to pretend to be Jesus/God (2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 and Revelation 2:10). Satan is an angel, and he will have certain supernatural powers with which to try to fool everyone. He will, for example, be able to make fire come down from heaven in the sight of men. He will only be on earth a short time before the real King of Kings, Jesus Christ, God in the flesh, returns. When the real Jesus comes we will all be transformed into our spiritual bodies at the same moment. Jesus came in the flesh to offer forgiveness of sins and eternal life to anyone who believes and calls on His precious name! if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. - Romans 10:9 KJV Now when Jesus was in Bethany, in the house of Simon the leper, There came unto him a woman having an alabaster box of very precious ointment, and poured it on his head, as he sat at meat. But when his disciples saw it, they had indignation, saying, To what purpose is this waste? For this ointment might have been sold for much, and given to the poor. When Jesus understood it, he said unto them, Why trouble ye the woman? for she hath wrought a good work upon me. For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always. For in that she hath poured this ointment on my body, she did it for my burial. Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached in the whole world, there shall also this, that this woman hath done, be told for a memorial of her. - Matthew 26:6-13 KJV Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh. To anoint your self, the sick, or a building for spiritual protection: Get a small bottle of olive oil and pour off a small amount into a smaller vessel like a vial or baby food jar. Use the rest of the bottle for cooking. Ask the Lord to bless your vial of oil in Jesus name. Anoint yourself with the oil by placing a dab of oil on tip of finger and touch it to your forehead, and ask the Lord to bless you/heal you. To anoint your home or other building: place a dab of oil on your finger and anoint the door posts and order all negativity and evil out of the house, and order that nothing negative or evil can enter into your home including piggybacking on a person entering, order it to be so in the name of Jesus. Anoint all potential entrances to your home. To anoint the sick: place oil on tip of finger and touch it to the head of the sick and say a prayer of healing over them in Jesus name. See James Chapter 5:14-15. For the word of the LORD is right; and all his works are done in truth. He loveth righteousness and judgment: the earth is full of the goodness of the LORD. Let all the earth fear the LORD: let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him. For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast.,

[@krisbrubaker4245]

Yes. Please. I am very interested in your experience with guilds.

[@katherinetaylor5323]

Yes I would like to see more.