Edinburgh's New Trams - Ride Behind the Driver Over the Complete Route.

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Timsvideochannel1

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@georgegraham3342
@georgegraham3342 8 жыл бұрын
I chanced across this video - thanks for providing me with an opportunity to indulge in nostalgia. I remember as a child the old double decker trams in the early 1950's. I came to Australia with my parents in 1961 - my last day in Edinburgh was spent roaming the city and climbing the Scott Monument - so good to see in in the video. The memories came back when I saw a bus turn right into Queensferry Road at the west end - I remember Boots the Chemist used to be on the corner. I lived in Blackhall and frequently walked into the city centre in the 1950's.The tram continued on - somewhere it passed the end of Grosvenor Road, where I was born.Many thanks, George
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
+George Graham Hi George, I read your comment with interest, Edinburgh city center must still be much as it was when you left, a beautiful city even in January. Trams have gone and come back again. I made another video whilst visiting the city that may interest you ... to watch it, click on this link .... kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZyWcoGknpeGnqc .... Thanks for taking time to comment, it is appreciated .... Tim.
@britboy2883
@britboy2883 9 ай бұрын
I rode on the double decker trams in the 1950’s when I was a little boy, so good to see trams running again in Edinburgh.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 9 ай бұрын
Great memories to have and after a difficult start it is good to see the trams back.
@DWtrainsNZ
@DWtrainsNZ 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers for that Tim. The route looks really interesting. One day I'll ride it, when I eventually get over there.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 5 жыл бұрын
Edinburgh is a beautiful city, I'm sure you'll enjoy taking a good look around, there is plenty to see and a ride on the tram is a real bonus.
@sawdoctor0
@sawdoctor0 7 жыл бұрын
I've ridden it twice. It is so slow! So many 90º turns with no superelevation of the track. You can hear so much metal being torn off the flanges. Long waits at each stop too. Try Croydon tram - always packed, 15 seconds to get on and off and pretty fierce acceleration.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 7 жыл бұрын
Croydon trams to take over running the Ffestiniog railway, That would make a great April fools spoof.
@diegohurwitz
@diegohurwitz 9 жыл бұрын
Great video Tim, borings back lots of memories of my childhood in EDI. Thanks for posting it.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 9 жыл бұрын
Your're welcome, has Edinburgh changed much since your childhood?
@diegohurwitz
@diegohurwitz 9 жыл бұрын
Timsvideochannel1 Actually not too much. Last time we went for a holiday in 2010 and it some ways I looked very similar but in others a world of difference. Unfortunately the tram wasn't open yet. Hope to ride it soon though :)
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 9 жыл бұрын
Waverley Station has been restored to its former glory, a great way to arrive in the city.
@diegohurwitz
@diegohurwitz 9 жыл бұрын
Timsvideochannel1 one of the most beautiful stations I have ever been. My great uncle used to work for BR, I remember him showing me a Deltic engine in 1971, just prior to our trip to Kings Cross.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 9 жыл бұрын
1971 was a great year, I had just discovered girls and for a few years even trains had to take second place, but not for too long. One of my first holidays as a married man was too Scotland, I can still remember watching the Advanced Passenger Train speeding through the Lune Gorge on its way to Glasgow passing a Deltic that had been diverted to the West Coast Main Line due to the Penmanshiel Tunnel collapse, how I wish I had caught that moment on film.
@MartinFarrell1972
@MartinFarrell1972 2 жыл бұрын
Video is awesome at double the speed. Planning to travel over to Edinburgh next month. A tram ride is on the cards!
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 2 жыл бұрын
Edinburgh is a lovely city and the tram is a relaxing way to see the route between the busy city center and the airport, I hope you enjoy your visit.
@protectorofillinois3
@protectorofillinois3 7 жыл бұрын
When I first came across this awesome vid, I was looking forward to hearing the sounds of the tram & people talking, but I'm extremely disappointed that this boring music was added. For me, it totally ruins the vid.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm sorry you didn't like the music, unfortunately modern trams are reasonably quiet and most of the sound picked up by the camera on this trip was people's personal conversations. I try to leave the original sound in wherever I can, but I don't think it is fair to broadcast private conversation on You Tube, hence the music. I hope you understand where I am coming from. Tim.
@WorldOfTransit
@WorldOfTransit 6 жыл бұрын
I've filmed the route without music - if you're interested search my channel.
@Scaw
@Scaw 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It's why I dismounted at 2.00, and gave a thumbs down.
@davidshaw7105
@davidshaw7105 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏 for a good 😊 days viewing.nice to see old Scotland in a. New way. Thanks 🙏
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed watching.
@pega17pl
@pega17pl 8 жыл бұрын
The tram (Urbos 3 by CAF) has simple but efficient chassis construction. Short segmens as well as the two heads have 2 fixed axes (4 wheels) each and work similar to bogies. Long segments are bridge constructions between them. By this there are two main advantages: no troubles of trains at tight corners together with smaller structure gauge and modular structure of train adapted to needs.
@froggie6608
@froggie6608 8 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video, thanks for posting. Edinburgh looks like a really nice city, would love to visit one day.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
+froggie6608 Thank you, Edinburgh is a beautiful city well worth visiting.
@Silver_Turtle
@Silver_Turtle 8 жыл бұрын
Just came across this video. My "2 pence" worth is: The music was relaxing and enjoyable, and I rather enjoyed the trip. Thank you for taking the time to make it.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
+Silver Turtle Thank you for taking time to comment, I really appreciate your "2 pence" worth.
@sharbee8033
@sharbee8033 5 жыл бұрын
Tae me this is mental lol I know things don't stay the same forever! But by haven't things changed. My place of birth, my heart will always belong there. Thank you for sharing much appreciated.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 5 жыл бұрын
Its a beautiful city, I've visited regularly since the early 1970's, some things have changed almost past recognition, but the best parts are just as they were on my first visit. My daughter recently moved to Edinburgh, so I'm likely to be visiting again in the near future.
@nedseagoon2826
@nedseagoon2826 7 жыл бұрын
These trams exact copy or reverse Sydney's Light rail. I didn't realise they were going anywhere in particular until airport stop. Thanks for great video. I will get information from Google for comparison tomorrow.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, Sydney's tramways were partly completed when I last visited, just in time to ride the monorail before it was dismantled. I look forward to riding the light-rail/trams on my next visit. The Edinburgh tramways were to have been more extensive, but problems during construction lead to the system that exists today, hopefully as the trams prove their worth the system will grow.
@nedseagoon2826
@nedseagoon2826 7 жыл бұрын
Looks like Sydney have committed to establishing the old eastern suburban tram routes that were abandoned back in early 1960s. Even this is going to cost heaps at the billion dollar mark. Most of the system will have own right of way except for George Street in CBD. Our and Edinburgh trams look very similar, very comfortable and regular. I am going to start new Facebook Group for Light Rail but my existing existing general purpose Group is Fred Nurk. Also have Public Transport in and around Sydney- History. I might put your information in this . Thanks for your videos particular on Switzerland.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, it sounds as though there are interesting times ahead for Sydney. In much of Mainland Europe the tram and trolley bus systems survived the culls of the 50's and 60's especially Eastern Europe. Here in the UK we are paying a high price for short sighted decisions made in the past, especially with regard to inner city rail routes that were closed. Now the parallel roads are grid locked and trips that took 10 minutes by train, now take up to 2 hours by car. In many cases the formation is in tacked except for the odd supermarket. Imagine how those motorists must long to be given the choice to use the train again. Manchester is a good example for using existing heavy rail routes to get to the city, then utilising street running to deliver passengers closer to their intended destinations. Funny how history repeats itself, it's a shame that so called forward thinking academics seem incapable of learning from the past, maybe what we really need is a cull of forward thinking academics. Switzerland offers a blueprint for others to study with regard to integrated public transport. I will be interested in your new Facebook venture, as public transport is entering a new phase where it is back in vogue again with plenty of positive ventures around the world to report on. When your Facebook page is up and running I would like to sign up.
@neilforbes416
@neilforbes416 7 жыл бұрын
Ned, Those in Sydney are NOT "Light Rail", They are TRAMS running on a TRAMWAY! Light Rail is a third and altogether DIFFERENT type of rail system with narrow-gauge tracks and motor/carriage combinations a-half-to-a-third the size of a typical tram. Google "Ravenglass" and you'll see what I'm talking about.
@bobmarshall3700
@bobmarshall3700 5 жыл бұрын
They'll stop ant Manly and Bondi if you ride them long enough!
@jeankensit9694
@jeankensit9694 8 жыл бұрын
Now I need to find out the fare schedule and other stuff -So glad , Edinburgh you have managed to make it work - I know there was construction HELL in your downtown for some time but now it has finally come to fruition :-)) ExPat now a Cowtowner
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
+Jean Kensit Hi Jean, to find fare and timetable information , please click on the following links .... edinburghtrams.com/tickets/ticket-options ..... edinburghtrams.com/plan-a-journey/timetables
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS 8 жыл бұрын
Well it took a long time to get the tramway going and on various visits to Edinburgh I remember seeing construction as the main line train passed alongside it. Great cab type ride mate. Thank you
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
+SMILEVIDEOTRAINS Cheers Keith.
@mariaud999
@mariaud999 8 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed the trip and as for the music, I loved it all 😊 Glad you've put the track listing at the end 😊
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
+mariaud999 Thanks a lot, I am really pleased you enjoyed it ... Tim :-)
@Milnoc
@Milnoc 8 жыл бұрын
Noted, Edinburgh has proper mass transportation from the airport. I'll add Edinburgh to my list of accessible cities to visit some day.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
The tram to the city center, is very accessible, wheelchair provision in Edinburgh appeared to be way above average, although only someone who has used one to get around the city can really confirm that.
@Milnoc
@Milnoc 8 жыл бұрын
Timsvideochannel1 I don't have any accessibility issues. However, I do have issues with often overpriced private transportation companies such as taxis and private buses. For me, public transportation is frequently the most accessible, most practical and most affordable option for traveling to and from the airport as well as traveling within the city itself. A city's public transportation options can be instrumental in my decision to visit a particular city or not.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
Oops sorry about that. I am with you on the cost of public transport, I avoid London if I can because of the cost of getting around. I live on the South Coast of England where the cost of using the trains on the few days when they are not affected by strike action or over running engineering work, is eye watering unless you are travelling to London, a journey that can cost as little as £5 each way if you book online in advance. The busses are even dearer, unless you live in and around Brighton. My wife uses the train to get around, but can't remember when her last trip was trouble free. The Brighton to Southampton route is an absolute nightmare, the trains are always late if they are running at all. Politicians should be forced to travel by train, at their own expense, second class, during the rush hour from the South Coast to London. They need to experience the problems the electorate face everyday, then they might understand why people are up in arms about "Southern Railway". I found the cost of public transport in Italy to be very reasonable, especially all day or all week tickets to make as many trips as you wish along the Italian Cinque Terre coastal railway. Are there any places you have visited where the public transport is good and reasonably priced?
@shrubbie1
@shrubbie1 8 жыл бұрын
great vid...I 'filled my boots' with £9 all day ticket and rode back and forth along whole route 3 times, with a shufty round the airport, trip on bus down to ocean terminal (included in ticket price) from york place and a break at edinburgh park station for a dose of krispy kreme...an anorak's day out! Hope to see the network expand, but obviously with a much better control over budget and schedule...
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it. You certainly made the best of your ticket, I didn't realise the ticket covered the bus trip to the Ocean terminal, that's worth knowing. I hope the system is expanded and I am sure a lot of lessons will have been learned from the problems experienced with the first phase.
@rohnerw
@rohnerw 8 жыл бұрын
Very nice video, Tim. The music accompaniment was very nice as well. Love the Jazz. Overall, a very nice ride and relaxing time. :)
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
+rohnerw Hi, I am glad you enjoyed the ride, your comment is really appreciated :)
@potkettle8185
@potkettle8185 8 жыл бұрын
QUESTION: at a final cost of nearly £1billion pounds for 8.5miles is this the most expensive tram line per mile?
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
I tried to find the answer, Edinburgh's trams did feature when I Googled "the most expensive tram line per km in the world", this article showed up - publictransport.about.com/od/Transit_Projects/a/How-Much-Do-Rail-Transit-Projects-Cost-To-Build-And-Operate.htm - it would appear that most modern tram systems are expensive to build, but I am sure "Cross rail" and "HS2" will take the spotlight off Edinburgh's trams.
@K-o-R
@K-o-R 7 жыл бұрын
I don't think, even if I procured trains and stations made of solid gold, could I come close to the figure quoted for how much HS2 is supposed to cost.
@PILLOCKHEAD
@PILLOCKHEAD 7 жыл бұрын
If this Tramway was so expensive why did they do away with the original system,I know that money was tight in the immediate postwar years and this is the stock answer to this question,but and there is always a but why did Blackpool manage to keep their Trams running,they were just as straped for cash as the rest of the U.K
@tropicalscot
@tropicalscot 7 жыл бұрын
Buses replaced nearly all tram networks in the UK (at one point there was something like 150 separate tram networks). Many of these disappeared between WW1 and WW2, but some of them survived until the 1950s. The main reasons for using buses were: lower capital expenditure, lower maintenance costs, more flexibility (easier to change/add/extend routes). Some also argued the buses had a smoother ride and were quieter. That may have been true at the time...modern trams are a lot smoother/quieter. Blackpool trams probably survived because it was a relatively small network (single route) and was beneficial to Blackpool's main reason for existence (a holiday destination). Like the Blackpool Tower, the old historic trams are a big draw for visitors. Although I think there are also modern trams on the main route.
@hatfieldmain
@hatfieldmain 6 жыл бұрын
I agree how many Council Houses could they have built with that? I had a look around it, inside and out, all I can say is there was something amiss going on in its planning and construction.
@soo5jon1
@soo5jon1 7 жыл бұрын
Well Done Tim, fantastic piece of videoing, good music too. I`m looking for more like this.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Susan, I really appreciate your comment, hopefully you will enjoy watching more videos on this channel.
@macsteed01
@macsteed01 7 жыл бұрын
This was informative to see how Edinburgh Implemented a modern tram system.. Running from the airport to the downtown was a good decision. I have some questions. Why is the airport station in the outdoors. The Scots are able to handle it but it is a first impression. I hope some one imagined what it was like taking luggage (wheeled version) outside and out towards the train. Recently I flew out of Vancouver BC. The Skytrain (Canadaline) connects right to the terminal and it is inside. Your climate is also variable. There is room to grow on the line in the area where you could have stations.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, I arrived at Denver Airport station yesterday where I was able to catch the train with ease, although the actual station is just outside the terminal buildings, it would have been possible to stay undercover in poor weather. The Edinburgh tram system suffered from cost overruns which caused some elements to be dropped in favour of getting the system up and running, I am sure that as the system proves it's value to both the airport and the city some of the elements left out will be included in future.
@PriestmanCub
@PriestmanCub 9 жыл бұрын
I liked your video, to be quite honest I had no idea Edinburgh had trams. I have to say the trams themselves look beautiful. I really enjoyed the ride. Thanks for posting..
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 9 жыл бұрын
+PriestmanCub Thanks for the comment, the tram system is new, although it had a few critics in the early days, I think it is becoming a real asset to Edinburgh.
@PriestmanCub
@PriestmanCub 9 жыл бұрын
Yes, Manchester's trams had a similar start but now they're always packed.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 9 жыл бұрын
PriestmanCub I often wonder what Britain's city tram systems would look like today had they not been ripped up. Only Blackpool's system survived to become part of the modern tram renaissance.
@urbanviii6557
@urbanviii6557 8 жыл бұрын
Nice video. What time of day is this? Edinburgh seems a bit of a sleepy town.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
+Urban VIII The trip was made around 10 in the morning.
@azzalanche7091
@azzalanche7091 8 жыл бұрын
+Urban VIII Probably still in Bed from the night before.
@STEVEHARLEY1956
@STEVEHARLEY1956 9 жыл бұрын
Interesting Trip Tim...very good....Don't think i could do that job...i would get bored on the same journey all the time....Best wishes...Steve.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 9 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, the drivers all seemed happy enough, then Edinburgh is a beautiful city and the system has not been open that long. I wonder whether or not the drivers also drive buses as the company runs"Lothian Buses" as well, both being part of "Transport for Edinburgh" Group.
@STEVEHARLEY1956
@STEVEHARLEY1956 9 жыл бұрын
Hmm i wonder !
@davidshaw7105
@davidshaw7105 7 жыл бұрын
👋 thanks for the great videos of my favourite place on the planet 🌎 new Scotland trams 🚋 ways
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@Justin10000
@Justin10000 8 жыл бұрын
I'm also amazed buses and vehicles are allowed to share the track ROW! Wow!
@potkettle8185
@potkettle8185 8 жыл бұрын
You'll find that the tram was built on the main bus route through the city centre As a result causes a lot of hidden pollution and increased bus journey times
@hiramlofton9464
@hiramlofton9464 6 жыл бұрын
Another clean city. Almost spotless. Dreery Scotland. Damp and cloudy. Trams and busses. Plethora of busses. Almost no private cars. Around my city its cars to the horizon. America and our cars. Hell we are far from perfect. Liked the background music Tim. Next time more cow bell! Maybe bagpipes would make folks happier. Rap music perhaps? No not in Scotland. Ireland maybe. My mother's family was Irish. Damn out of control Irish. Mom was a rebel.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 6 жыл бұрын
This was taken on a cold damp winters day, probably the best time to visit Edinburgh, all the tourist attractions are open, but there are no queues. If the public transport is good and reasonably priced, people will us it, leaving their cars either at home or in out of town car parks. I recently visited Denver where I was pleasantly surprised by the high quality, sensibly priced public transport. The town was almost car free just electric buses providing free transport. The roads around the outskirts were busy, but it shows what a well designed town center with good public transport can achieve even in the USA. I'm glad you liked the music, as you probably noticed it is not always appreciated, especially by those who feel I have deprived them of natural sounds, quite why anyone would want to hear an embarrassing conversation between two people who are still sobering up from the night before beats me. Bagpipes might well have been the answer.
@hiramlofton9464
@hiramlofton9464 6 жыл бұрын
As we say here in the deep South. Dang Tim! You be one funny guy! Bagpipes...strictly southern. Hell, half the southern U S is Irish or Scots.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 6 жыл бұрын
I live in the South of England and we only hear Bagpipes at Hogmanay. I'd love to visit the Southern USA one day.
@hiramlofton9464
@hiramlofton9464 6 жыл бұрын
The only thing wrong with the southern US is there are too many people just like me. But come on down. Always room for more friends.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I look forward to visiting.
@mohammedsharif9416
@mohammedsharif9416 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent keep going good luck with your service
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@steves2694
@steves2694 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting that the final switch point at the airport is a spring switch. You can see it lined against the tram as it crosses over and moves into the station.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 4 жыл бұрын
The sprung switches make life easier, as trams leaving the station will always take the same route under normal operating conditions
@mgsee
@mgsee 7 жыл бұрын
Great video and I actually liked the music! Like most trams and train fans I would normally want to hear the natural sounds of the machines and the environment. However the audio quality was also very good, so I was using it to ‘tune’ my hi-fi system while watching the video :)
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael, I'm glad you enjoyed it. I prefer to use natural sounds where ever possible because it makes editing videos a lot easier, but sometimes for various reasons I can't use the original soundtrack. The music has proved unpopular with some people, so it's nice to know you liked it.
@lawrencekeesler7369
@lawrencekeesler7369 9 жыл бұрын
Lovely trip. I understand your use of music, and it's enjoyable, though I'd like to hear how quietly the tram operates. It's good to see a return to rail-based transit including street operation, especially with such elegant rolling stock. The U.S. has begun to return systems to many cities that trashed streetcars in the ’50s or earlier. Progress is slow, however, and automobile drivers are not always adjusting to the shared roadway very well. Thanks for the fine video. Oh, it would appear that jaywalking is common. Is this a problem for tram operation?
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 9 жыл бұрын
+Lawrence Keesler Thanks for commenting, Edinburgh's tram system suffered a painful birth, but it quickly become an accepted part of the city, now there are plans for extensions. I have recently posted videos of the Bern tram system, where public transport is taken to a whole new level, resulting in quiet suburbs with almost no queuing traffic. Modern trams are quiet and comfortable, like you I noticed people crossing the road in front of trams both in the UK and across Europe. I suppose a tram is going to take a more predictable line, whereas a motorist may turn into a side street. I am very wary when crossing the road in front of a stationary tram as they start so quietly without warning. When I took my driving test, there were no regular trams, so I am not sure of the rules, I just look at the size of a tram knowing that I will always come out second best in the event of a collision and drive accordingly. I have noticed videos showing emerging American tram systems, I guess it will take a while for motorists to get used to having trams around again.
@lawrencekeesler7369
@lawrencekeesler7369 9 жыл бұрын
My first experience with a modern quiet tram was strolling an auto-free mall in Melbourne some fifteen years ago. Suddenly two clangs of that inimitable bell made me realize a silent tram was bearing down on me. I had to develop a new skill quickly. I was last in Edinburgh before there was any evidence of the present system. I'm happy to see it is doing so well. Attracting development along rural stretches is exactly what caused streetcars in the U.S. to thrive early last century. I hope you find that to be true now. We are continuing to find that Americans will ride trams, L.R.V.s or streetcars who wouldn't think of using a bus. Convincing those who hold the developers' purse strings is another matter.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 9 жыл бұрын
+Lawrence Keesler Developers will do things if their is a profit in it. The growth of London Metropolitan Railway into the suburbs makes interesting reading. Developers and investors purchased farmland around London 150 years ago at agricultural rates, then extended the railways into these areas and developed the area for suburban housing, making a profit and extending the lines without costing the taxpayer. The Melbourne tram system is impressive and I love riding the old trams used on the tourist routes.
@lawrencekeesler7369
@lawrencekeesler7369 9 жыл бұрын
We had a late dinner on the beautiful maroon Tram #1 in Melbourne. Excellent food, and delightful to be in a city with extensive street trackage to allow such a trip. Our stay in Australia was rail-oriented. Toronto is another rare fairly complete street system. And they're upgrading their rolling stock with European style articulated trams. May even be changing over from trolley poles to pantographs. Many U.S. towns and small cities ran trolley lines to "Electric Parks"-amusement centers in rural settings to bolster business on weekends. A few still exist. Come to thing of it, Melbourne's Luna Park may be such an example in Oz. Off topic: Manhattan's streetcars had no rooftop current collectors since overhead was not permitted. The entire system was plow-in-conduit, and must have been a major mess in heavy snows with brine running into the vaults. Some remnants may still be seen in side streets.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 9 жыл бұрын
+Lawrence Keesler Dinner on a tram, what a wonderful way to spend an evening, I've seen that on the Trams in Christchurch (New Zealand) and though that is something I must do. My wife and I arrived in Toronto on a cold January day to catch the "Canadian" to Vancouver, I was not aware of the tram system before my visit, The snow was a foot or so deep, but it didn't seem to bother the trams. I tried to book a table in the revolving restaurant in the CN Tower, but our hotel said "no chance, not this late in the day", so we made our way there anyway hoping to go up an see the view. As I bought a ticket to go up the tower I mentioned that I had hoped to have a meal at the top, the lady selling the ticket said "hang on, I'll ask", she returned and said there are a few spare tables, so we had dinner looking out over the city, lit up on a clear night, what a wonderful way to start a Canadian adventure. I must visit the USA, as there is so much to do and see. Through You Tube I have learnt a lot about public transport in American cities, from old street cars and trolleys to modern tram systems, trouble is a lifetime isn't long enough to see the whole world, but I'll give a go.
@garyrafiq9561
@garyrafiq9561 4 жыл бұрын
Do the trams have a bell or chime to alert pedestrians crossing the streets? What about a strobe light for those who are hard of hearing?
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 4 жыл бұрын
I believe they have a warning horn, although I've never heard it.
@arishzida1548
@arishzida1548 5 жыл бұрын
I love Edinburgh and Scotland I will move to there soon as possible 🌺🌺🌸 💐
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 5 жыл бұрын
It's a nice place, a bit chilly in winter.
@Bobrogers99
@Bobrogers99 5 жыл бұрын
Ambient sounds would have been much more enjoyable that the music - which I shut off. I'm not sure what those disjointed snippets were before we started at York Place. But otherwise, an interesting tram ride!
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, the snippets at the beginning were to show the outside and inside of the tram along with some shots of the route just to give an overall impression. I would love to have left the sound in, but I'm not sure many people would have appreciated the colourful language and politically incorrect sentiments expressed by the two people sitting next to the camera.
@Bobrogers99
@Bobrogers99 5 жыл бұрын
Timsvideochannel1 - Thanks for the explanation. Considering the language I hear in US public transportation, I can understand the difficulty in trying to edit it out!
@joaogoncalves1097
@joaogoncalves1097 9 жыл бұрын
We'd like to hear the sounds of tram running instead of this bloody music Really awful and so boring....
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 9 жыл бұрын
+Joao Goncalves Hi, I'm sorry you didn't like the music, unfortunately modern trams are reasonably quiet and most of the sound picked up by the camera on this trip was people's personal conversations. I try to leave the original sound in wherever I can, but I don't think it is fair to broadcast private conversation on You Tube, hence the music. I hope you understand where I am coming from. Tim.
@danielkinely7299
@danielkinely7299 8 жыл бұрын
+Timsvideochannel1 I was a bit annoyed at the music but now that I see you're reasoning, I support your decision!
@sciflyernineteensixtynine6950
@sciflyernineteensixtynine6950 5 жыл бұрын
@@Timsvideochannel1 I like the music, it really adds to the ambience.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 5 жыл бұрын
@@sciflyernineteensixtynine6950 Thanks, it's nice to know somebody likes the music.
@WorldOfTransit
@WorldOfTransit 5 жыл бұрын
I've filmed the route without music - if you're interested search my channel.
@therealandrewstrains
@therealandrewstrains 9 жыл бұрын
Tim; thanks again for more tram videos. How do you manage to go to all of these wonderful places? I am envious of your travels. Thanks for the video.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 9 жыл бұрын
Cheers, January's a good time to see Edinburgh, cheap hotels, cheap train travel and no queues for the tourist attractions.
@rodhard688
@rodhard688 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video, but I am amazed how many people cross in front of an on coming train. They trip and it's splat, flat as a pancake. Those things can't stop on a dime!
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 7 жыл бұрын
When I am visiting central European cities where people are used to trams running along the streets, I find it alarming at how many people walk in front of them. It's quite disconcerting just walking in front of a stationary tram, because they make very little noise when they start to move. Although trams are heavy they can stop surprisingly quickly, causing alarm amongst the passengers inside and if the driver hasn't seen the pedestrian it's curtains or at least serious injury. The good folk of Edinburgh are quite well behaved compared with those in some cities in Mainland Europe.
@kennethsim4817
@kennethsim4817 6 жыл бұрын
Timsvideochannel1 just to mention in Scotland if u get caught u get a hefty fine and can be banned from walking down that street and fine for Jay walking
@ajmalshahtravelling7088
@ajmalshahtravelling7088 8 жыл бұрын
beautiful tram
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
+Ajmal shah Edinburgh is an attractive city, with many interesting features, the tram is a good way to get around and see what the city has to offer.
@bobmarshall3700
@bobmarshall3700 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful tram.... Orrible "music".
@chankarathilmathewshaji5906
@chankarathilmathewshaji5906 4 жыл бұрын
Different experience
@neilforbes416
@neilforbes416 7 жыл бұрын
Gotta say it.....! Tim, you've done it again! GREAT VIDEO! The titling font was easier to read too!
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 7 жыл бұрын
Cheers Neil, I'm glad you enjoyed it. It was a beautiful Spring day here in the UK today, so I spent the day with my wife enjoying the surrounding countryside. No trains, but I got some lovely photos of Bluebells in the woods. They don't last long, so it was great to see the blue carpet they create beneath the trees in bright sunlight under a dark threatening sky. Oh well back to work tomorrow, but at least I had a good weekend. Take care. Tim.
@neilforbes416
@neilforbes416 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, Tim. This might interest you, and it relates to Scotland's trams and Edinburgh's in particular. Apparently this is a brand-new system to replace one closed down gradually through the early 1950s, up to November, 1956. I've watched the first half and will watch the second half later. I'll post the link for you in the comments relating to this video after I've seen the second half. Cheers!
@scottsinclair2201
@scottsinclair2201 9 жыл бұрын
Another great video Tim, thanks so much for sharing! My Dad and I took a bus from the airport into town to take a boat tour of the harbor in 2008. This was under construction then, what a beautiful route and you captured it in your usual excellent fashion! I would say you have a good image stabilization on your camera, but the tracks are pretty smooth! Fun to watch people running in front of tram and playing chicken with the buses. Most excellent run. Look forward to seeing the run up to Wick, we took my Da up there to see our castle Sinclair!!
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 9 жыл бұрын
Scott Sinclair Hi Scott, the building of the tram line was a bit of a saga, but now the first part is open and running, I think most people agree it is a real asset to Edinburgh. I am editing the run from Edinburgh to Inverness at the moment through a beautiful snow covered landscape, it should be published by the end of next week.
@josephwong5755
@josephwong5755 9 жыл бұрын
Timsvideochannel1 I second that. I remember all too well all of the controversy. I have always been a supporter of the tram and glad to see it serving Edinburgh well now. I hope the extensions are built (to Leith and south to the Royal Infirmary).
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 9 жыл бұрын
Joseph Wong It would be nice to see the tram route extended, I am sure they will prove their worth over the coming years.
@Bobrogers99
@Bobrogers99 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice. I note that the traffic signals have been programmed to give the trams priority, a good move. I also note that even along the city streets, the stops are quite far apart. That may speed up the trip but it makes the tram impractical for those that aren't able to make a long hike to or from a stop. I turned off the sound for this video.
@tomskupham
@tomskupham 7 жыл бұрын
are they expensive, they did not seem to stop often for passengers
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 7 жыл бұрын
The trams were not too expensive, although it cost a little more to go to the airport.
@petersmith6903
@petersmith6903 5 жыл бұрын
No music please only natural sounds and the view
@WorldOfTransit
@WorldOfTransit 5 жыл бұрын
I've filmed the route without music - if you're interested search my channel.
@ABC_DEF
@ABC_DEF 7 жыл бұрын
This gives a good idea of how incredibly slowly the tram goes. The airport bus from Waverley Bridge is at least ten minutes faster.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 7 жыл бұрын
The tram may not be quick, but it's a nice way to travel.
@shnuggydunks
@shnuggydunks 6 жыл бұрын
ABC DEF ii
@willswomble7274
@willswomble7274 5 жыл бұрын
I flew into EDI and got straight into a super Audi taxi to town and have also used the bus to/from Waverley Station; both far quicker and more comfortable! I have always loved Edinburgh and went to it out of choice for Uni. but the local council is very left-wing and made a crazy waste of money building the stupid tram!
@feliciadavis8485
@feliciadavis8485 8 жыл бұрын
Great video! I hope to visit someday.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I hope you get to visit Edinburgh some day.
@michaelchs
@michaelchs 9 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Greetings from Hong Kong! I wish we can have this flexible trams instead of the frustrating Light Rail here.
@nelsonsilvera8013
@nelsonsilvera8013 9 жыл бұрын
muy limpias las calles,y transito ordenado .;felicito la realizacion de este video
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 9 жыл бұрын
Hi, Edinburgh is a beautiful city, even in the middle of winter it is attractive and well worth a visit, especially the castle.
@ptarmegen
@ptarmegen 7 жыл бұрын
Great thing about this tramway is that Edinburgh used its very first line to link up the airport. In Dublin, after 12 years and several expansions, we remain, to this day, the only European capital city without any type of rail link to it's international airport!
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 7 жыл бұрын
The airport link is both practical and convenient, hopefully Dublin will get there in the end.
@broman178
@broman178 7 жыл бұрын
ptarmegan Dublin isn't the only European capital city without any rail link to its international airport as Luxembourg City, Bern, Belgrade, Bratislava, Zagreb etc don't have any rail links to their international airports either. I think the debate over whether to use a metro line, commuter rail line or tram line along with lack of funding has caused the delay for a rail link to Dublin Airport, but hopefully it'll get there eventually now that the metro line seems to be the most likely option, although it'll have to be without too much controversy as Edinburgh's tram link while useful now, was very controversial during the construction stage. Would love to properly visit Dublin one day, as I stopped over there when flying back home to the UK from holiday last year.
@zedata57
@zedata57 6 жыл бұрын
Great ride. Thanks.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@daryl2510
@daryl2510 9 жыл бұрын
got to smile on the traffic lights for the tram with the 'no U-Turn' signal'! ;) Lovely video though... Thanks :)
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 9 жыл бұрын
Daryl Lees Thank-you, I missed the 'No U-Turn' signal for the trams, I'll have to watch the video again now.
@YPO6
@YPO6 7 жыл бұрын
Nice people walking with their positive shoes on smiling asphalt.
@CraigMcGill
@CraigMcGill 9 жыл бұрын
Tim, I really liked this. Can I use part of it in an animated gif?
@PublicTransportVideo
@PublicTransportVideo 8 жыл бұрын
14:46 Ghost train
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
Oh dear, another victim of a miss-timed video edit, or was it a real ghost train?
@borderreiver3288
@borderreiver3288 4 жыл бұрын
wish they would bring trams back to all large towns and cities...nice views but nothing shown of the trams...
@ChrisH-1952
@ChrisH-1952 9 жыл бұрын
Great vid, thanks.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 9 жыл бұрын
Chris H Cheers
@andrex3954
@andrex3954 6 жыл бұрын
The ride is so nice, the music is nice, but without the natural sounds in the video is lacking lots of glory. Perhaps you could mix the sounds instead of having just music. Also, the front curtain to help you from the sun rays, it is so low and we cannot see easily the nice scenery of the journey. Hopefully next time you'll make it much better. Thank you anyway and a thumb up of myself it will help you to make perfect the next video of yours. Cheers from Trikala, Greece.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, I was only in Edinburgh for a day as I was passing through on my way to the Highlands. I totally agree I would be much better to have left the original soundtrack and taken the trip later in the day when the sun was not so low, but I didn't have the luxury of time on my side and I didn't think viewers would want to hear the politically incorrect conversation the camera picked up. If I get another chance I will allow more time, I will also contact the operator in advance to ask for their help in capturing a good video.
@cathiez9131
@cathiez9131 6 жыл бұрын
THank you -- fascinating!
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I hope you enjoyed it.
@ferrysteam
@ferrysteam 8 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the trams were designed and built in the UK.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
+ferrysteam Hi I wish I could say they were British, but that is not the case, they were built by CAF in Spain .... this link will give more information .... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh_Tram_(vehicle) When I was young,every train I travelled on, in the UK was built in the UK as were many trains around the world. Fortunately my local trains were and are still being built in Britain by Bombardier in Derby. I have visited tram museums around the world, where a high percentage of the trams on display were built in Britain, sadly I don't think we build any nowadays.
@bobmarshall3700
@bobmarshall3700 5 жыл бұрын
Designed and built by Pakitram!
@Сергей-б9о5ь
@Сергей-б9о5ь 6 жыл бұрын
Мне очень понравилась поездка в трамвае по Эдинбургу.Кто это придумал и заснял большая благодарность.Очень интересно и город замечательный.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 6 жыл бұрын
Привет, я рад, что вам понравилась поездка на трамвае. Эдинбург красивый город был интересной историей.
@mca_a1131
@mca_a1131 4 жыл бұрын
This is wonderful, hope you can re upload without the background music, thank you
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 4 жыл бұрын
I'm pleased you enjoyed it, the original sound track was two people having a silly argument, it would be nice to return and shoot the ride again.
@slycat1939
@slycat1939 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Wander if anyone ever got hit by running in front of a train--Hmm. Here in Kansas and few other states that's considered jaywalking and against the law. Hmm. Nice video. I'm enjoying your trips. Wish you would do cities of Norway. Safe travels ahead God bless.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sure people are hit by trams occasionally, roads are dangerous places and some people risk their lives to save a few seconds crossing the road, it is difficult to legislate against stupidity, I am not sure if jaywalking is against the law in Britain, I've never heard of anyone being prosecuted. I glad you enjoy following my travels, hopefully I will get to Norway in the not too distant future.
@SponDooley
@SponDooley 8 жыл бұрын
This is great, Tim, thanks for posting. I lived in Edinburgh from 1951-1954 as a kid, so this has brought back some terrific memories! By the way, do they still have that big, floral clock in the gardens in Princes Street? Thanks again, matey! :-) Love the music, too, very ethereal, nice stuff, very clever too, ol' bean!
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
Hi, really pleased you enjoyed it, and yes they still have the floral clock, even in the depths of winter Edinburgh's still has a lot to offer. We stayed over for a few days on way to the Far North and I made this short video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZyWcoGknpeGnqc - The castle was well worth visiting too, the weather may have been cold, but the welcome was warm. Thanks for taking time to comment ... Tim.
@SponDooley
@SponDooley 8 жыл бұрын
Tim, fantastic! Thanks for the extra KZbin link, really nice video. You've put a lot of work into these and it's not been wasted, at least not on this bloke. Ah, memories of Edinburgh! My younger brother was baptised at St Margaret's Chapel in the Castle grounds. The Scott Monument, so high, that my mother wouldn't permit my Dad to take me up there, ha ha. He'd been posted to the Castle and was an RSM, but my Mum was the Boss! Oh yes, and thanks for telling me about that floral clock, Tim. I'm really glad it's still there. A beautiful machine. By the way, in my day, they used to take the penguins for a walk along the pavement outside the Zoo. I doubt if they do that now, do they? I can remember watching them, entranced. Thanks again, Tim, and keep up the good work! Brilliant!
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
I am pleased to have rekindled some great memories, especially the penguins. I am not sure whether or not they still walk along the pavement outside the zoo, that is something I would love to have seen. I bet the castle is just as you remember it. Although I live on the South Coast of England I have visited Scotland on a good number of occasions, on one of those visits I remember tourists walking next to the soldier on duty at the castle telling jokes in the hope of making him laugh. Those poor soldiers have to put up with a lot, but I bet they have a few tales of their own to tell. Thanks again for taking time to comment. Tim.
@ServisGem
@ServisGem 9 жыл бұрын
The fact that Edinburgh had very excellent trams running from 1871-1956. They aren't a patch on the proper trams with the Pickering P22 trucks Wooden Standards
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 9 жыл бұрын
+servis gem There is something about old trams, they had real character. At least I was lucky enough to ride the old trams at Blackpool before they were replaced by new ones.
@ServisGem
@ServisGem 9 жыл бұрын
+Timsvideochannel1 same here when Ford launched the Ford Mondeo mark 1 in 1993. Rode them along the pier. I love watching this video. Does anyone know what the background music is: news.stv.tv/east-central/102703-name-that-year-the-edinburgh-trams-stop-operating-in-the-city/
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 9 жыл бұрын
+servis gem I bought a Mondeo in 93, it seemed such a modern car way back then. I watched the clip in your last reply, what a lovely piece of nostalgia, I've no idea what the background music is, but it's very pleasant and adds to the atmosphere of days gone by.
@ServisGem
@ServisGem 9 жыл бұрын
Yes we enjoyed using it too. Ours was a hired car. Recently was applying for a job at the depot. But unfortunately got through the siphoned stage. But didn't pass the aptitude test. But hopefully can manage it next time round as had a lot on that week
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 9 жыл бұрын
+servis gem Good luck the next time round.
@dariowiter3078
@dariowiter3078 6 жыл бұрын
Are the diamond-shaped signs with the numbers on them the speed limit for the trams? 🚋 😃
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 6 жыл бұрын
www.edinburghtrams.info/building_phase_1a/road_signs www.theukrules.co.uk/rules/driving/highway-code/tram-signs.html Hi, I wasn't sure of the answer, so I looked it up. Diamond shaped signs apply to tram drivers only and the sign you mention is a speed limit. I don't live near a tram system, so to be honest I have never learned about tram/road signs, because back in the day when I took my driving test the only trams in the UK were the Blackpool trams. I've learnt something new today.
@paulmccluskey2993
@paulmccluskey2993 7 жыл бұрын
I loved both the video and the nice music - where do you get the music from?
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm pleased you enjoyed it. The music and it's source is listed at the end of the video. Most of the music used in this video was purchased from Smartsound. SmartSound music is a little expensive and it's prone to copyright claims although they are usually released quickly when disputed through KZbin. Some of the music I use comes with the editing software I use. The best value royalty free music I use only costs $9.99 per album, it's available from Jewelbeat.com and as a bonus it is almost free of copyright claims. KZbin also offer a good range of free royalty free music through KZbin.
@paulmccluskey2993
@paulmccluskey2993 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thank you for your useful reply
@neilforbes416
@neilforbes416 2 жыл бұрын
Spoiler Alert! Those ghost instances at 3:08 and 5:37 are achieved with a "Fade" transition effect.
@neilforbes416
@neilforbes416 2 жыл бұрын
5:37 Yikes! Another ghost! That lady just vanished into thin air! Spoo-oo-oo-ooky!
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 2 жыл бұрын
That's one way to reduce population density to more sustainable levels.
@neilforbes416
@neilforbes416 2 жыл бұрын
@@Timsvideochannel1 Yes indeed!
@mfrancisridley53
@mfrancisridley53 3 жыл бұрын
Why did Manchester not opt for this style Tram.
@madtrainspottermacrae6744
@madtrainspottermacrae6744 8 жыл бұрын
Can I use my bus pass on the trams????
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
+douglas MacRae Hi Douglas, I did not know the answer, so I used Google to find out more and it appears to depend on where your bus pass was issued. I have included this link as it gave the clearest answer I could find .... edinburghtrams.com/tickets/scottish-concession-cards
@ds-cx5yo
@ds-cx5yo 2 жыл бұрын
could this tram kill me at top speed what do ya reckon fellas
@ds-cx5yo
@ds-cx5yo 2 жыл бұрын
proper depressed like
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 2 жыл бұрын
@@ds-cx5yo No, these trams are way too slow, they'll stop before they hit you.
@baronlocal8569
@baronlocal8569 7 жыл бұрын
interessant bridge 18:01 Maybe sometime it will be lawn, between the railroad, and in Britain as it has been done for decades in France.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 7 жыл бұрын
I have seen many tram-lines throughout Europe with grass between the tracks, I am not sure why it is not common in the UK, maybe it is because concrete is easier to maintain, although grass looks a lot nicer.
@baronlocal8569
@baronlocal8569 7 жыл бұрын
at min 27:07 and 26:14 Who has forced the builder and administrator of this railroad to grass between the tracks ? Probably to put grass between the tracks for not to affect the landscape, not to reduce Noise and air pollution . Looks a little shocking first time at min 27:07 = 2 large vehicles run one next to each other at a small distance on a field where no road can be seen. Gorgeous looks a neighborhood at min 21:32 But it is most worthwhile showing the mayors from all over the world, the railway bridge from min 18:01 In few places in the world the railroad climbs and descends above the roads. Every day, millions of cars go up and down the railroad, which running only a few trains a day. The minority of trains must respect the majority road vehicles.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 7 жыл бұрын
Some of the route used by the trams was originally a guided bus-way. In places the tram line looks more like a branch line railway as it passes through open countryside. The trams have helped to regenerate areas away from the city by making access quicker and more convenient. I like to see grass between the tracks, it looks much nicer than concrete. I live on the south coast of England where busy railways are crossed by busy roads, I wish these crossings could be replaced by bridges, because I have to allow 10 minutes extra for my journeys in case I have to wait for a train.
@monicablima22
@monicablima22 8 жыл бұрын
From hay market tram line has no sense for me.Idea of tram is to be as closest as possible to living places.Thers lots of areas in Edinburgh where is many flats and tram simply missed them it's like they build this line as a tourist attraction.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
+M Lima Hi, I understand what you are saying, the line also serves Edinburgh airport. I believe one of the reasons the tram takes the route it does, is to encourage development in these areas, rather like early London Underground lines were built to serve open countryside. Once the lines were built development took place along their routes relieving pressure on the town centres. As the tram is accepted I think the system will be extended as has happened in many British towns and cities.
@IDowney1988
@IDowney1988 7 жыл бұрын
what type of tram is this?
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 7 жыл бұрын
The trams were built by CAF, for more information please click on this link - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh_Tram_(vehicle)
@bobmarshall3700
@bobmarshall3700 5 жыл бұрын
It's an Edinburgh tram.....
@Woottontrams
@Woottontrams 7 жыл бұрын
Grat video, just spoiled by the silly music, in my opinion.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, sorry about the music.
@rosscampbell5199
@rosscampbell5199 6 жыл бұрын
Cost far more than the original budget and yet only built a quarter of the original plan. Hmm...
@mikegross6107
@mikegross6107 6 жыл бұрын
I would have liked to hear the noise of the tram and street sounds instead of that music!
@alasdairwright6677
@alasdairwright6677 8 жыл бұрын
The Spires seen at 35:58,look oddly reminiscent of The First Church in Dunedin, Otago
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
+Alasdair Wright I'll have to dig out my photos of Dunedin now.
@ChinaAl
@ChinaAl 9 жыл бұрын
Great video but maybe it would have been nice to listen to the ambient sounds instead of the music.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 9 жыл бұрын
ChinaAl Hi, thanks for commenting. Part of this video was taken using a GoPro camera, it is not very good for sound, but it does pick up peoples private conversations and have to respect their privacy, hence the use of music. Where the sound is good I try to leave it in.
@WorldOfTransit
@WorldOfTransit 5 жыл бұрын
I've filmed the route without music - if you're interested search my channel.
@Justin10000
@Justin10000 8 жыл бұрын
I'm with the rest of the commentors. The music wasn't necessary. The best driver POV video is with the natural sound and background noise. The addition of music takes away from that. Good video, would be better without the music.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
+Justin Bernard Hi Julian, I wish I didn't have to use music, as it is much easier to just leave the sound as it is, but what you are not hearing, is a conversation that would have caused embarrassment to the couple concerned and offence to many listening. I try to leave as much of the original sound as possible, but when I use a GoPro camera people forget it is there or don't know it records sound. I always take note of feed back as it helps me to improve my videos. Thanks for taking time to comment ... Tim.
@Joe90V
@Joe90V 9 жыл бұрын
I am an enthusiastic supporter of public transport and coming from Belgium I especially love trams. However, I followed the course on the map and I really cannot understand why they routed the tramline in this direction. The airport is already bypassed by railway on two sides and it would have been a much smaller task to reroute one or both mainlines under the terminals (like Schiphol, Amsterdam). The tram line seems to duplicate railway for much of its journey although it did deviate slightly to the Gyle Centre where there was one particular point at 24:15 that grated on my engineering sensibilities. The terrible alignment of the track for that underpass - whoever designed that ....?! It's a great video but it seems to sum up everything that is bad about the UK approach to building public transport; i.e.. fit it around everything else. It also seems like another opportunity lost, where they could have served different parts of Edinburgh not covered by mainline. Good public transport needs to be direct, speedy and more convenient than travelling by car, just like the Dutch have envisaged. But as I said, a lovely video, well shot.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 9 жыл бұрын
+Joe90V Hi, it's good to read observations from a country where trams are not a new thing. I am not sure whether the intention was to distribute passengers arriving at Waverley station or to serve the airport. The trams do a good job distributing passengers arriving at Edinburgh Waverly station and I think some of the reasoning behind serving the airport might be to encourage development along the tram route rather than to serve the airport, as much of it is still green fields. I don't know if an airport station is a prospect for the near future. Travelling around the world has highlighted to me the lack of foresight exercised by British politician's in the second half of the twentieth century when scrapping city tram and trolley bus systems. I have recently returned from a holiday to Switzerland where public transport serves it purpose well. Thanks for your comment ... Tim.
@larryital
@larryital 9 жыл бұрын
Blackpool one next???
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 9 жыл бұрын
lawrence cairns Good Idea.
@Gordon669
@Gordon669 7 жыл бұрын
Can anyone remember, before the new tram, they started building a weird bus lane type thing ? I worked in Edinburgh at the time ( around 1995). I assume it was abandoned. It was the same route as the tram
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 7 жыл бұрын
This is new to me, I Googled it without any success, if anyone reading this knows the answer, please let us know.
@Gordon669
@Gordon669 7 жыл бұрын
Timsvideochannel1 it ran along from the stenhouse area to around Edinburgh park area. it was like a dedicated single lane made of concrete that just fitted a bus width wise. please someone remember it I'm sure I'm not imagining it
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Gordon, I tried Googling "Edinburugh guided bus way". This time I had some success, these links give more information about the guided bus way - kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYvZaJh_q9qKpdU commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/West_Edinburgh_Busway en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_guided_busways_and_BRT_systems_in_the_United_Kingdom
@Gordon669
@Gordon669 7 жыл бұрын
Timsvideochannel1 that's the very thing thanks for that. yes the buses were fitted with sort of buffer wheels so it didn't hit the side. it was a strange set up. the tramway now sits exactly where it was. it was being constructed in 94 - 95 when I commuted from west Lothian to kings stables road daily with the then Lothian regional council. cheers
@pega17pl
@pega17pl 8 жыл бұрын
(32:32) The famous magic flower stops each train.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
+pega17pl It wasn't famous, but it is now !!!!
@stuartadair
@stuartadair 3 жыл бұрын
Would have been great but completely ruined by the needless music overlay. The noise adds nothing and ruins everything !
@garythomas2396
@garythomas2396 9 жыл бұрын
great vid , shame about the elevator music .
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 9 жыл бұрын
gary thomas Cheers Gary, sorry about the music .... Tim.
@ReprievedSoul
@ReprievedSoul 9 жыл бұрын
+Timsvideochannel1 just turn it down... or play something appropriate... mebbe Silver Rails frae Jack Bruce, or Apple Cider Reconstitution frae Al Stewart
@ozwzrd
@ozwzrd 7 жыл бұрын
gary thomas Elevators go up and down. This stuff just goes 'round and ' round like how water swirls when you flush the toilet. Thank goodness it can be turned off.
@SteveBuchananArt
@SteveBuchananArt 7 жыл бұрын
I stopped watching - music was driving me crazy - totally inappropriate for the subject matter. Could have overdubbed soundtrack without the passenger conversations.
@douglasmcarthur2314
@douglasmcarthur2314 6 жыл бұрын
to bad you didn't just turn off the music Steve, you missed a great video
@underwaterbubbles
@underwaterbubbles 4 жыл бұрын
Natural sound not music.
@mrivantchernegovski3869
@mrivantchernegovski3869 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry man the music kills it ,just have natural sound of the tram,music is subjective to each person but video and its sound is universal
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 2 жыл бұрын
The natural sound was a drunk couple swearing at each other, not the kind of soundtrack people really want to hear, hence the music. I agree with you and I use the original sounds wherever possible.
@bryqn9503
@bryqn9503 9 жыл бұрын
Isn't £776 million a little too pricey? That's like 1 billion EUR or almost 1.2 billion USD. For one line! Trams are sustainable and they do add charm to a city (see Budapest, Vienna, Amsterdam, Zurich, Prague, Milan, Lisbon), but £776 million was way to much. It's too late now, of course, but let's see what else could have been done with that money to improve Edinburgh's transportation. The new London Routemaster costs £354,500. For seven hundred million you could have developed a new double decker bus from scratch even with the most expensive japanese or european technology, COMPLETELY ELECTRIC, within a price range from £500,000 to £1 million per bus, enough to have 1000 electric buses to replace all the internal combustion buses of Lothian and First, or you could have a minimum of 500 electric buses, and that would be just 500 million, so with the rest of the money you could have built a network of stations around the city where buses exchange empty batteries for charged ones when needed, and you would still have money to invest in a wind farm, or some other green technologies to power the network in the future. I live in Edinburgh and there are too many buses on the street, and they are VERY VERY LOUD and POLLUTING, so they could still be on the street, but wouldn't it be better if they were quiet and emission free?
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 9 жыл бұрын
+BRYQN I have trouble imagining that sum of money, your comment is thought provoking. I watched capacitor buses in Shanghai, they charge up every time they call at a bus stop from an overhead supply. This was at the same time as London was building more internal combustion engine buses and the Mayor was telling us how environmentally friendly the were !!!!!. Most of the major cities I visit use trolley buses, take a look at the Bern tram videos I have uploaded, a city where public transport really works. There did seem to be an awful lot of buses on Edinburgh's roads, but the traffic was moving without too much trouble, maybe that was because I visited in January. Hopefully Edinburgh's trams will prove there worth and Edinburgh will teach London a thing or two and introduce capacitor buses in the city and a hybrid version for journeys into the suburbs. The main advantage of a capacitor is the time required for charging. By the way, you live in a beautiful city.
@bryqn9503
@bryqn9503 8 жыл бұрын
Timsvideochannel1 It really is a beautiful city indeed. It's not very congested, but the traffic can be very sluggish. The tram is doing good and has a growing ridership, but it's not improving the traffic flow of the city as it just shares the road with other traffic participants in the city centre. So if they didn't create a lighter, faster, more fluid traffic, then what was the point? Creating green transportation? Minimum 500 high tech fully electric double deckers, that's green. Trams are green too, but not when it's just one line built for so many hundreds of billions of pounds. I like your videos, and Bern seems like a great place, but then, it's Switzerland, and it's not just Switzerland but also quite a few other places in Europe that take smarter decisions than Britain when it comes to transportation, from cycling to high speed trains. Oh, if a city has it's tram network for a while now, that's great, but opening new tram lines or trolley lines that go through the city centre might add one element that can be unpleasant, cables. If they were there the hole time, it's fine, but if a wealthy and touristy city like Edinburgh doesn't have suspended cables of any kind through the city, I think it's a shame to add them. But anyways, it's a shame, I think with the money spent well they could have even built two underground lines with that money haha
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
+BRYQN Thank you, I read your comment with interest and certainly agree that most large European cities have far more cohesive transport policies - now an Edinburgh underground system - that would provoke a lively debate. Although I live on the South Coast of England, I love Scotland and visit whenever I can as the scenery is beautiful and the people very friendly. The one down side is that the trains to the far North and Fort William are short and overcrowded often requiring far too many people to stand for much of the journey, not the best way to marvel at the wonderful landscape. I would love to see Scotrail introduce new purpose built tourist trains such as those in Switzerland. Rail holidays are a fast growing sector of the market and they may not cover their entire cost from fares, but they will bring new tourists and their spending money, benefiting Scotland as a whole, maybe this is an initiative Scotland's political leaders could look into, should an initiative like this ever be taken, I would love to be one of the first passengers. Best Wishes and Seasons Greetings ... Tim.
@pega17pl
@pega17pl 8 жыл бұрын
+BRYQN Starting within 90's Bilfinger & Berger (now Bilfinger) is known to calculate too low costs to get the job. After construction began they to use every little change to increase costs step by step to the level they had internal calculated before. They 'know' the customer has no choice. That's Mafia method but not "That's German construction and engineering" former German politician (!) and now former CEO Koch said. I'm angry about such stupid managers being an offence to German reliable engineering. I'm angry, too, about incompetent politicians disputing about increasing costs instead to have the balls to say "No!" and explain to the public why they stop construction and/or to let inhabitants vote about.
@neilforbes416
@neilforbes416 7 жыл бұрын
Where I live, here in Australia, the nearest city to me is Newcastle. The NSW state government recently committed the greatest TREASON by ripping up a perfectly good rail line between Wickham and Newcastle terminus and they want to put a tramway in, that they keep erroneously calling "Light Rail". Trouble is, Newcastle's layout means there's going to be a hell of a lot of irate motorists driving east along Hunter Street, especially where it splits into Scott Street where it narrows considerably. The trams will likely only run at 10 Km/H in a designated 50 Km/H area, slowing to 40 Km/H as you pass Market Street going east toward Watt Street. As for "Light Rail", yes, I've seen what it is and there's a perfect example of it running between Ravenglass and Eskdale in England: Small locos(half or third-scale locos and small carriages that are boarded or alighted from as if getting into or out of a car). Tim, I probably think you'll have seen them for yourself, even got them on video. Ravenglass-Eskdale isn't the only light rail system in England, there are others and you can see them on KZbin videos, they're fascinating! And they perfectly exemplify what is "Light Rail".
@JBernert52
@JBernert52 7 жыл бұрын
the shade blocks the view.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 7 жыл бұрын
It would have liked to place the camera on the inside of the windscreen, but sadly it was not possible on this occasion, maybe next time.
@neilforbes416
@neilforbes416 2 жыл бұрын
3:08 Gasp! St. Andrew Square is *Haunted!* Did you see those cars appear out of nowhere?.... Like g-g-g-g-ghosts! LOL
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 2 жыл бұрын
Don't you just love video fades, imagine how we could improve the world if we could use video fades to get rid of all the greedy, selfish politicians, we could make nice people apear to replace them.
@neilforbes416
@neilforbes416 2 жыл бұрын
@@Timsvideochannel1 LOL, yeah!
@rossmorgan834
@rossmorgan834 7 жыл бұрын
I echo the previous comments in that the music is irritating. Irrespective if modern trams are quiet or not there's no need for that music.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 7 жыл бұрын
Imagine you have a personal and embarrassing conversation broadcast for all to hear because someone happened to be filming and the camera picked it up. The music was used to avoid just such a situation.
@rizwantariq5246
@rizwantariq5246 7 жыл бұрын
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@rizwantariq5246
@rizwantariq5246 7 жыл бұрын
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@unhban
@unhban 9 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but didn't like the music - had to mute it. What was wrong with the ambient sounds, they're part of the tram and experience. Otherwise OK.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 9 жыл бұрын
unhban Hi, sorry you didn't like the music, I was using a GoPro camera, they are not very good for sound, most of which was conversation and I assume people don't want their personal conversations broadcast on KZbin. I do try to use the original sound as long as it is of acceptable quality and conversation is not too audible. Thanks for taking time to comment. Tim.
@trainrover
@trainrover 8 жыл бұрын
Muzic ruins watching the footage .. oh well .. next!
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
Hi, I prefer to use the ambient sound, but the camera picked up an argument between a man and his wife, I didn't think it was fair to broadcast it to the world. It is really difficult to find royalty free music that everyone likes, maybe I'll get it right next time. Thanks for the feedback.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
Oh dear, music does get me into trouble, what with erroneous copyright content ID claims, some people liking it, whilst others really hate it. I have just finished editing another video with a lot of music content, I've gone back through it to see if I have overdone it, imagining the future comments "don't do it, leave the music out" or "I love the choice of music". Fortunately I am thick skinned and generally enjoy all replies although a few Glaswegians might take exception to your comparison with the folk from Edinburgh.
@neilforbes416
@neilforbes416 7 жыл бұрын
Music copyright claims are the bane of a KZbinr's existence, Tim. I even got caught out using a SOUND EFFECT of all things. It doesn't matter that you're trying to chase down royalty-free music for your videos, and I fully understand your reasons for doing so, pity other comments clearly don't understand those reasons. But with KZbin it seems you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't as KZbin seems unable to tell copyrighted music apart from royalty-free music. With my fingers well and truly burned, I won't use music OR sound effects now!
@xrphellcat981
@xrphellcat981 8 жыл бұрын
at 26:34 its Gogarburn not Cogarburn
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 8 жыл бұрын
+Steven Carruthers Hi, thanks for that, I cannot remove my error, but I have added a caption with the correct spelling.
@xrphellcat981
@xrphellcat981 8 жыл бұрын
+Timsvideochannel1 some nice views along the route
@jeankensit9694
@jeankensit9694 8 жыл бұрын
To the music hater - Hit the Mute button already !
@alanmorr3635
@alanmorr3635 8 жыл бұрын
+Jean Kensit I like this video very much BUT it would have been better just hearing the sounds of the tram and any passengers than that music, I also mute it while watching.
@jeankensit9694
@jeankensit9694 8 жыл бұрын
+Jean Kensit I love it too, and am fascinated by the wonderful permitted jay walking- I live in a regimented society where pedestrians are not allowed to cross wherever - consequently they Mosey, dawdle and are complete idiots around cars & trains ! Try watching the Melbourne Oz train Love their Architecture from the day. Balconies made from Ships ballast !! Look for the Adelaide U bahn - Brilliant thinking ( German, natch)
@WorldOfTransit
@WorldOfTransit 6 жыл бұрын
I've filmed the route without music - if you're interested search my channel.
@bobmarshall3700
@bobmarshall3700 5 жыл бұрын
People shouldn't have to mute videos to enjoy them!
@donaldelliot240
@donaldelliot240 Жыл бұрын
The music is abysmal! Tram-route looks good though.
@Timsvideochannel1
@Timsvideochannel1 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I try hard to avoid using music in my later videos, sadly the original soundtrack for this one was spoiled by two people swearing at each other.
@fredwilson8326
@fredwilson8326 6 жыл бұрын
painfully slow trams the city I lived in a while ago the trams were twice as fast.
@squeaksvids5886
@squeaksvids5886 5 жыл бұрын
Gave up watching this because of the bloody music!
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