Education Crisis & Reform In Asia’s Schools: A Look At Indonesia, China, India | Shifting Horizons

[@t4nw31l1]

Teacher from Indonesia here, There are so many things going on with our education system. I'm one of the lucky teachers to teach at a school with international curriculum and perhaps this might give everyone a few insights on what's going on. The competence tests for the teachers were not even assessed correctly. The makers of the tests often give the wrong answers but surprisingly national schools got higher scores compared to the private schools. We all know this is the opposite of the reality. The app in the report is a hassle, the teacher you talked to has already prepared this interview and she needs to talk good about it. If you go beyond this, you can ask most teachers don't have time to do the things in the app, all the good comments were just formality to increase the participation of their school or else the school will get marked and won't have good score. The teachers are experiencing burnt out and with so little pay and time, the government is not to be blamed? Are you kidding me?

[@ryerye9019]

Corruption and nepotism are also part of the problem. Incompetence starts at the top and trickles down through the organization. The schools are often poorly managed. Sending good teachers to bad school managers/directors only makes the good teachers quit and leave the education sector. The primary change needs to happen with leadership. I speak for a lot of teachers here.

[@t4nw31l1]

@ryerye9019 Yes, I totally agree. The ministry is full of incompetent people who only deliver orders but at the same time confusing schools with the system adopted.

[@gabrielgkabelen4780]

Best one Bro.

[@ilhamrj2599]

sejak kapan sekolah swasta puny skor lebih rendah dari sekolah negeri. Secara rata-rata sekolah swasta tetap lebih tinggi dari sekolah negeri. Kalau ada satu dua sekolah negeri yang punya skor jauh di atas swasta ya wajar lah. Kalau populasi sample nya gede, udh. pasti bakal ada top 1%. Jadi kalau mau buat perbandingan ya harus populasi vs populasi. Jangan sembarangan membandingkan sample vs sample. Lagipula in term of enrollment, sekolah negeri yang top1% itu punya seleksi penerimaan yang sering kali lebih kompetitif dari sekolah swasta. Tapi kan tetep aja top1% ya top 1% dia ga bisa mengerek rata-rata sekolah negeri jadi di atas swasta juga.

[@gehemehe6056]

They're the one who makes the regulations, zonation just the worst nightmare even the curriculum that's ingrain fully with online type assignment just dumbstruck, we really need specific minister with experience teaching from elementary to high school, we don't need someone from Harvard or conglomerate with ton of title but mess up planning 😢

[@drneeraj9061]

in India private school teachers get paid very less and they really teach well. government school teachers get paid high and they don't teach

[@amadeus0123]

I had my children go to private school. It is criminal how low paid the teachers are. The carwash and maids working multiple homes in a residential complex would make more money.

[@bibliophile5700]

Government school teachers are just enjoying high salaries and sleeping in principle's office

[@Sinfonia.de.suenos]

Frfr

[@libra9381]

it's the same case in Indonesia 😅

[@moglie123]

In govt school, these teachers have to do miscellaneous duty like election duty, census duty,BLO Duty and similar other duties. So most of time they are busy with these clerical job, not teaching students. In private school, teachers can focus only on work rather than govt teachers

[@Bomber_Fish]

An Indonesian college graduate here, I have a feeling the development of internet actually somewhat worsen the the student's ability to think for themselves. I was in college when one of the educators ask us our opinion on certain issues like the law and why technology is always developing, she was asking each of us to form our opinion but pretty much everyone other than me and a few others reaches to their phone and have to look for the "correct" answer on google. The funny part is the educator herself just let this happen and not call them out. At that point i was convinced that our ability to get high grades is constantly improving but our ability to actually think for ourselves and form our own opinion is just going down the drain. We just dont know how to actually understands an information, we just learn to read it and memorize it at face value. I think as a nation we still dont know how to adapt our education system with the internet.

[@roryasrorri701]

Spot on. Haha. Back when I was a college student, I found myself representing my campus at a speech competition. There we two sessions. In the first one we were given the topics days ahead. So everyone did their best. The angles we took varied from one another. It was good. Then came the second one. The topic here was given right on the spot. It was about education. We only had like 10 minutes to prepare our speech. As I had a bad luck going first, I just blurted out what was on my mind. I critised the goverment and our education system by saying something along the line of " ... we don't go to school to learn how to think. it is all given to us. this is right. that is wrong. we become sheep. herd mentality is something we cherish and celebrate. something has to change or else we will be a laughing stock in the future." Lo and behold... every parcipant after me chose the exact same angle. We had sooo many problems in our education system. How could you all copy me? Why? They were all sheeps. Unable to think for themselves. Safe to say I didn't win the competition. But I got a good chuckle every time I am reminded of it.

[@KellyNight-qk6os]

Some are actually just using AI

[@intrinsical]

Singapore's education back in the 1980s was also highly focused on memorizing facts and figures. Yet look at Singapore today. My point is that while memorizing may not be the best or ideal way to learn, students can still learn through memorizing. Do not discount it completely, as it is not the cause of poor education

[@gretziesuzan198]

So true

[@irmawatiidris6797]

Im from Indonesia,education in Indonesia kwi quality decreases when the internet enters, it is spoiled by ease so that the process of achieving knowledge is not so effective

[@owl6218]

In india, education has gone down the drain in the name of preparing for engineering 'entrance exams'. Instead of making sure that most students obtain a good overall grasp of the basic principles of science, they have tried to cram all kinds of formulae and "problems", with an eye on the entrance exams. Just the entrance exams, their concerns do not even extend to creating an awareness of actual engineering disciplines.....Class 11 and 12 textbooks now cram the science that we (actually) learnt in the 3 year college degree program. Students turn into zombies. They could all easily learn the principles of science, if they were not unwisely ambitious.. Students lose their ability to learn anything well, on their own....they believe they can only survive the system. Reading, writing, speaking skills in india have gone down drastically, across all languages, not just english. Young people have become inartriculate in their own languages, while not acquiring any degree of comfort in english. Not able to express any idea with any nuance...

[@amadeus0123]

Very insightful!

[@1ownp3opl3]

Is this just for CBSE or all education systems in India?

[@M.e.h..]

The education system is obsolete which is interested in making students corporate clerks.

[@1ownp3opl3]

@@M.e.h.. So... it is both then?

[@RahulKumar-lg8vj]

True. Wonder if our past generation were more articulate and had better grasp over basic science! Ofcourse language skills and nuance understanding of language has decreased.

[@-Osiris-]

I don't disagree with the premise but you see what happens in India when you educate everyone and don't have anywhere near enough graduate level jobs. It's probably better to increase education slowly until the number of jobs increases

[@LuciThomasHardylover-qx6ts]

And yet touting AI as an answer just takes another huge slice of the job market out. And a slice that requires a well educated population to fill it. Just like what we're doing to our own environment, we're choosing to create our own doom🤦

[@firstpostcommenter8078]

I guess education here is also about primary and secondary level and not just tertiary level

[@yajatsen2657]

Well, I'd like to humbly disagree here, as an Indian myself I think the greatest blunder of India has been absolutely no priority for primary education, today india suffers from a huge skill deficit in its youth workforce, that's a major issue which has been fueling unemployment, the correct approach should be to skill the workforce and to unleash the entrepreneurial spirit of the youth. The very fact that today south east and east asia are ahead of us is due to their focus on educating the masses, no society can prosper until all the people have a reasonably good literacy level. So the day we have skills we will have more jobs.

[@wanrazul]

The government concentrates too much on tertiary education (unis, IITs and such), not enough on primary and secondary.

[@ceasar8679]

Due to poor education and human capital, no companies shifted to India bro... it's the other way of your thinking

[@rafsaki]

What a sharp point of view, as parent of Indonesian student, I hope all children around the world develop growth mindset, don't limit yourself by score,challenge yourself with new experience,try new thing,and prepare yourself for AI era

[@SilverScarletSpider]

Indonesia 🇮🇩 will rise if all students learn English Chinese Japanese Spanish and German

[@vennsim71]

Children have to learn and understand the basics of all necessary subjects. Then, it will be good for them to develop other areas of ‘interest’ or ‘expertise’ armed with the basic knowledge and skills learnt earlier

[@daripada2152]

@@vennsim71Fantastic...! touch base on the basic requirement of all necessary subjects and go higher during the time of self-development achieving the dream and desire. Good one, i am with you.

[@satriaamiluhur622]

I live in a small town in indonesia where a lot of kids were raised with android gadgets because their parents are gadget addicts themselves. They go to school just to fulfill the attendance but they barely pay attention to their teachers. They're middle school kids but can't even do simple multiplications, even they struggle to mention our provinces and capital cities. Our education really went backward during the last decade

[@eddyr1041]

And to remember you can do modern science and engineering without calculus 😅

[@bibliophile5700]

But they can chant every single line of Qur'an in Arabic

[@roryasrorri701]

​@@bibliophile5700 But only a few knows the meaning of it. Just like in the video, we don't have any problem in reading. We just don't understand it, let it comprehend it.

[@maccomplex]

@@bibliophile5700 why is this always a quip as if it makes you smart. you can walk and chew gum at the same time.

[@saber1885]

Parents wanted a comfortable life for us but gave us the wrong kind of comfortable life

[@IzzaSaidatus-bw8nr]

I think education in Indonesia also depends on residents' perceptions about education. Some residents don't think education is important. They think education isn't essential because it doesn't earn much money. They say, 'We need insiders and luck more than education.' What do you think if this perspective comes from a teacher candidate? So, they just study in college for the certificate.

[@sontoloyo-zo9er]

wrong... it is because their past and previous govt insist to use only their national language at the basic level of education to boost national pride including their teachers... moreover their govt annual budget for education is not enough to cover all their kids.. they have to reboot their education system from bottom to top but unfortunately their govt seems dont care about this matter and the results as you can see today

[@abdulwahidmdtahir3660]

We cannot blame them for having such perceptions. It was because the education system in Indonesia is still under the category of "education to find jobs". They should move towards "education to create jobs".

[@JojoJoget]

That’s everywhere, if said education doesn’t bring in money, why bother.

[@DianaTrisnawati-xx4zu]

Being sucses in Indonesia. 1. The power of orang dalam 2. The power of money buat suap 3. The power of privilage 4. Yang sukses di indonesia cuma koruptor.

[@abdulwahidmdtahir3660]

@@DianaTrisnawati-xx4zu , I like your point no.2. To get jobs they have to "suap" (bribe). After getting the jobs they themselves have to take bribe to cover what they have spent to get the jobs. The process will go on.

[@AnnJoyce241]

You work for 42yrs to have $2m in your retirement, Meanwhile some people are putting just $20k in a meme coin for just few months and now they are multi millionaires I pray that anyone who reads this will be successful in life...

[@carolerobertson282]

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[@Nishss-p4q]

I have been seeing so many recommendations about Mrs Scarlett, she must be really good.

[@Samantha-s3v6k]

How ..? Am a newbie in crypto investment, please can you guide me through on how you made profit?

[@Derek-h5u5r]

I'm glad to write her tay I do hope she will help handle my paycheck properly

[@Derek-h5u5r]

Can I start with as low as $1000

[@RoyFJ65]

Don't put China and its education system along with the other two, different league altogether.

[@wsmithe2209]

One is muslim always first everything else is second. The other is always think of themselves better than others even if in a sheet hole.

[@hanoimuathu123]

One that is very close to reaching World Bank's High-Income status, has GNI per capita similar to the like of Malaysia, Russia and Turkey. The other stays at the lowest of the Lower-Middle-Income bracket along the like of Laos and Cambodia.

[@hanoimuathu123]

However, the Indian diaspora is doing pretty well in the West, many with Indian degrees, so they must have done something right with the education, haven't they?

[@Shivam-f1r2d]

Nope, Chinese aren't exception from this.

[@wsmithe2209]

@@hanoimuathu123 - There is a difference between people with degrees making good living vs people with degrees moving the country up. For India, the smart ones are overthere, the not so smart ones are at home.

[@interactsupervisor]

"Ada Indonesia coy" Yes, we're that Indonesian that majority are illiterate but not of choices but forced to be this way. Even non-profit organization who try to give accessible library is intimidated by local government (book stolen, attacked by buzzer/bots digitally, and even disallowed the permit). Thank you CNA for shedding some light on the dark future of our (read: Indonesia) democracy.

[@roryasrorri701]

Our goverment much prefer us to be as dumb as possible. Better that way for them. They hate criticism. They hate transparancy. It will all backfire. Our bonus demographic will bite them back in a near future. Just imagine millions upon millions of zombies. You can herd them easily as long as their bellies are full. But once they are hungry, they will eat you with no hesitation. They've never heard the saying 'don't bite the hand that feeds you'. They're too dumb to understand it. And who's fault is that?

[@interactsupervisor]

38:33 Yeah another consultant, it's already a public secret that it's just a 3rd party that government hire to take the blame when things went wrong. This Platform Merdeka Belajar (PMM) she talked about is dismissed (and even hated) by teacher because how impractical they are. CNA do a great job here by also showing how the platform works and potential "fake" response on the module uploaded by Al-Azhar teacher.

[@interactsupervisor]

45:09 Very interesting comment. "Top-down goals". I think all of us 3 have the same problem, centralized policy and less practical approach or user experience feedback. It always the same, the government did what would be additional burden for the rest of the society.

[@dr.feelgood9104]

ini guru sotoy dan belagu banget... terlalu open ke org asing, dasar mental londo..

[@Indonesian1749]

Mayoritas 😂 Lu aja kali keluarga lu di sekitaran lu aja aja kali goblok makanya ngomong gitu

[@aldamayopanadjam7504]

I'm an Indonesian. All these noises about Indonesia Emas 2045 are truly concerning. Our bonus demography has grown and turned into a major segment of population not ready for the future. This nation needs to build its people first, empower the population, educate them, make them prosper at the most basic level, pay teachers respectable wages, create a favourable tax environment for the middle class. Only by then will quality investments come and truly elevate this so-called G20 country. Enough gimmicks, we need more quality human resources.

[@roryasrorri701]

The goverment: "Best we can do is taxing the heck out of you."

[@witchmomorency297]

​@@roryasrorri701yeahh the sad true our government is really delusional with the situation then bam in next day 2025 we get our first slap PPN 12 percent , WTF.

[@ПобедавРоссии]

No no you guys never achieve that because you guys supporting those hamas killing my fellow russian in israel

[@theminecrafted8211]

​@@roryasrorri701ppn 12%💀

[@Weekend_Papi]

I'm Indonesian work in palm oil plantation as a field admin and only little people i know high school graduate and i can count in two hand for university graduate, most people i met not even have education or only elementary school, this happen because there's a believe long ago among the parents that their kid only need to know reading, writing and basic math, anything else is useless, because in that time there's already so hard to get a good job

[@dr.feelgood9104]

ini guru sotoy dan belagu banget... terlalu open ke org asing, dasar mental londo..

[@urfavchickenlegs8797]

that must be the older generation, in my school, it's the opposite, most high school graduates enroll to university and only few are taking gap year, so few you can count them with your hand. and if you work in a palm oil plantation, you can not expect someone to be highly educated as it is a hard physical labour. which educated people would become a palm oil plantation worker, isnt it? so, you're having a wrong logic for your explanation.

[@Weekend_Papi]

@urfavchickenlegs8797 The topic of the video is "education crisis", I'm not talking about high school graduate or anything, I'm talking about the Irony of people of this day and age still have no education or finish atleast elementary school. The people I'm talking about is mostly teen from java, looking for work because there's no work in their region, the thing is, this happen for very long time for generation they only go to work to their own field and no improvement in their life even their fellow villager, the educated one struggling to look for work, because of this there's the believe among villagers that even the smartest and educated one among us is struggling what the need of education anyway, we only need to learn writing and basic math from elementary school and done and that believe going on to this day.

[@Weekend_Papi]

The topic of the video is about "education crisis" I'm not talking about urban company recruiting highschool and University graduate, I'm talking about the Irony of this time and age there's still people not graduate from even elementary school. The people that come to work mostly teen from java not older generation, there's no work in their region other than working in their own little paddy field and there's no improvement in their life, the thing is this already happen for long time, that's why there's believe that education is useless other than reading, writing and basic math, especially when they witness even the highly educated fellow villager also struggling looking for work, this believe then going on until this generation that the only necessary part is about learning to read, write and basic math, that's why many of the worker not even have education, the thing is they can't even write or read properly and basic math, most only know addition up to two digit, I met hundreds people like this (including worker from others and the nearby illegal settlers)

[@Weekend_Papi]

Also in palm oil plantation afdeling (500- 1000 ha) you need one Manager per afdeling with 5 to 10 Assistant manager, this assistant manager need 1 or 2 overseer/Assistan manager, 3 administrator, all of them of in the real life need to be educated in Agriculture and Economy and business for the cash administrator. In my case, the plantation I work (1000+ hectare), the only only one with Agriculture (SP) background is the Manager and the manager already change there time and the last one is Business graduate (title; MBA, Singaporean Chinese, owner family), from the 5 assistant manager 2 of them high school graduate, the other one Sociology graduate and two other I don't know about their education but atleast they're from prestigious university in the province and only one cash admin that Economy graduate (SE) and he always complain about how low his salary compare to his education (I think he just jealous because his peers only highschool but can have same position as him), the other overseers and admins (10 overseers, 1 head administrator, 23 administrator) all highschool graduate and some like my self crawl themselves from regular worker to this position, the other lower positions like inventory clerk, guard/security, truck drivers, cook mostly not finish highschool, all of the lower positions first day paid by minimum wage and from then on the salary goes up per years they're working. From this you can see Palm plantation is even more hectic than regular factory in the city, in theory they need even more University graduate than even urban small company, not all about heavy work and all you think about, but the reality the company seeing the worker loyalty and hard work than their education, that's why even highschool graduate can became assistant manager with big salary, I even once met with middle school graduate that work as a manager in a middle size plantation with 500 ha+

[@muhammadhanif4113]

The quality of education in Indonesia is stuck if not regressing from soeharto era.

[@FictionalMarine]

And it's even worse with the new curriculum

[@zapahlevigumay]

Era bapak lo jokodok

[@kenzobram3679]

​@@FictionalMarineya bastard Gojek owner ruined it

[@lui2271]

the year can be 2054 and the education system will not be resolved in Indonesia. The root cause of a failed education starts from home.

[@dr.feelgood9104]

ini guru sotoy dan belagu banget... terlalu open ke org asing, dasar mental londo..

[@goldenfreddy256]

Honestly as an Indonesian student myself, i feel like one of the few problems with the education in Indonesia is that there are too many subjects to learn in school. With the addition of subjects like religion, ppkn, and history it will be very hard for us to focus on the main subjects like maths, biology, geography and so on. Although yes, i do believe that subjects like religion and ppkn are important but it should not be teached from kindergarten until UNIVERSITY... Asside from that, the many subjects provided by the school cause us students to always be tired when going to school because school starts from 7am-3pm maybe even until 5pm just so that the school can cover all the subjects so we almost have no time to rest in addition with amount of homework that we have to finish on the day it was given and submitted the next day. So how do they expect us to stay energized and motivated when we're always tired and exhausted everyday???

[@MrKakaedu]

look at cram school in korea, japan or china.. they study for about 12-15 hours a day.. you're still lucky just studying for 8 hours a day..

[@ProfessorLester]

I'm in America and ppkn sounds great. I wish we had something like that for high school at least

[@arthurfleck1554]

For secondary education 13 or more subject for first and second class, are completely normal. In the Netherlands at least! With at least 3 European languages, not including Dutch.

[@Lstvee13]

Rasanya sejarah itu penting deh dipelajari. Ppkn juga. Dan zaman saya waktu masih ada jurusan dan kurikulum 2013 kita bisa mendalami pelajaran mana yang mau dipake, entah IPS, IPA atau Bahasa dan pelajaran lain itu basic dan wajib. Emang sih "too much" tapi ngerasa pada akhirnya cukup bermanfaat. Nggak semuanya tapi ya cukup lah. PPKn malah membangun diri untuk lebih nasionalis meski sayangnya ya banyak juga yang masih nggak gitu. Karena sekolah cuma dateng ke sekolah doang. Apalagi anak sekarang yang daya tangkapnya kedistract sama ponsel. Contoh kecil ya adik saya dan ponakan-ponakan saya yang lebih banyak ngabisin waktu buat push rank atau scroll tiktok.

[@laoaisymu8771]

the problem of indonesian is your pride...best esport country? without international winnings? hahahaha you truly are functionally illiterate hahaha

[@andriy1958]

Politics are mostly high factor for Indonesian education, like he told when new appointed minister always change system they didnt want to pass the baton from previous. Also when Soeharto era books can be pass down to new student until it hit 5 years, now every year they change the book.

[@yajatsen2657]

Im very grateful that cna brought this very important but often non priority issue, ultimately education is the backbone of a prosperous and peaceful society.

[@lenzalafonso9508]

India needs more factories, more manufacturing / production than education. It has more coaching centers than jobs.

[@yqweqwun7390]

what if factories,manufacturing,production ---like factory workers get replaced by AI,robots? Where wud the poor ppl who cud be employed to these kinds of tasks that require not intellect but physique, go?

[@Beheldtothesun]

​@@yqweqwun7390 honestly, you can't really have that be viable for the long run. People need money to buy things, cutting costs will temporarily get you richer but in the long run its just gonna make people poorer and unable to buy things. such is the work of capitalism, it sucks.

[@Shivam-f1r2d]

​@@yqweqwun7390 it will create the worst inequality in income in the human history . Not everyone can afford to be einstein.

[@doujinflip]

In the Smiling Curve model, manufacturing is the least value-added, most price-sensitive, and most substitutable stage of the production process, compared to R&D (IP development) in the beginning and Sales & Services (branding and aftermarket support) at the end. This explains why the middle-income trap exists for those who fail to independently develop disruptively creative industries (such as post-Zero-COVID China).

[@gamba4605]

​@@doujinflip you clearly doesn't fully understand the smiling curve model. The model was introduced by a Taiwanese to show what value/how much value is being created in contract manufacturing service especially in Taiwan. He explain that the value being created by this EMS is pretty small. But what he shares couldn't represent the entire manufacturing sector of east Asia. Manufacturing company like Sony for example create more value than Foxconn. Why? But both of them are manufacturing companies, so why? It bcus unlike Foxconn that only assembling a product company like Sony perform the entire process. Starting from R&D to Manufacturing to sales and marketing. Here you are putting down manufacturing industry bcus of that theory which you interpreted wrongly.

[@growtocycle6992]

Youth unemployment is not a learning crisis, and it's not an "Asia problem."... Young people face unemployment across the world in Europe, Oceania, south America and even the USA

[@arianugroho]

bro... US$615/month is considered as BIG salary in indonesia. it can buys 6,4 grams of 24K gold. it can buys 200 BicMac and the average meal price in indonesia is just around US$0,92... you can get around 600 meals with that salary.... more than enough for 1 family eat in a month...

[@arshad-zaidi]

Its an average including private and gov teachers not all gonna get 615

[@t.s.d.1376]

Regarding India, "Similar to the 1930s, the ex- pansion of higher education remained severely skewed towards the liberal arts while neglecting the hard sciences and vocational training. As stated in the sixth Five Year Plan (FYP) of 1980-85: “There has been an undesirable growth of facil- ities for general higher education, especially at the undergraduate stage in arts, commerce, and humanities, and in the consequent increase in the incidence of unemployment among the educated.”" - THE MAKING OF CHINA AND INDIA IN THE 21ST CENTURY: LONG-RUN HUMAN CAPITAL ACCUMULATION FROM 1900 TO 2020. Indian elites have always prioritized creating a cadre of parasitic left liberal class who now fill their urban ranks than serving the nation(The early leaders themselves where accidental nationalists who furthered their class interest instead of the national interest). The above quote is from the study conducted by Bharati and Yang and is just the most visible example of this. Industrial Manufacturing Development requires a workforce that is literate(primary and secondart edu) AND specializes in vocational skills. India followed the anglosaxon model of liberal elitism at tge expense if its national needs. Ironically enough it was regional leftwing parties that actually fuelled mass technical education for the purposes if generating employment(DMK in Tamil Nadu ia an example).

[@kzm-cb5mr]

Philippines also has an astoundingly bad education system, even worse than Indonesia, it would have been nice to see a discussion about it.

[@jamesleeborgonia222]

weee😂

[@akimawari7]

They analyze this education system through the pisa ranking which is unfair because most of the student here in the philippines see this test as a joke or as unimportant exam that's why student don't focus on answering the test. But if you'll look on other characteristics of education you can see the differences/growth of our education system, as the time goes by Matatag curriculum is being operational nationally and this curriculum not just help our teachers but also the student. Why? Because this project is to summarize or to lessen the lessons that are irrelevant on the module, it makes the teaching lesson more convenient because students will not have multiple activities or reading time on those big book, now look at the modules its more lightweight just like the module in china. It is just one of the reason's why our education system are still improving.

[@sontoloyo-zo9er]

if you have several or even hundreds of discussion but without action to tackle the problem... well its just totally waste of time

[@laplue]

true.

[@melvincarbonel964]

Dinamay mo pa. Sila nga na topic eh

[@maafremsayablong]

In Indonesia almost half third grader still cant read/write, even there's cases up to seventh grade, it's crazy.

[@povmasss5171]

In germany it ist the same

[@juanritanjaya6254]

I truly appreciate the objective journalism here. The fact that these problems can be discussed openly shows progress in the societies

[@kampoengbatoe2699]

1. India produces lots of MBAs and PhDs, but most them are jobless. Many of them eventually have to downgrade and apply for clerical jobs. 2. There is a huge number of educational institutions, but all fake. They all produce unemployable graduates. Half of Indian youth are jobless (about 400 millions). The whole educational system is a joke. 3. India doesn't have enough formal jobs. The number of available formal jobs in private sector is very small. So literally everyone is dreaming of getting a government job. They either have to bribe or to constantly look for government exam leaks.

[@ArjunVB666]

400 million thats fake! More like under 100 million 😂😂

[@kampoengbatoe2699]

@@ArjunVB666 Are you still jobless bro? 🤣🤣

[@ArjunVB666]

@@kampoengbatoe2699 like you? No bro i am in college and have my own start up!

[@FizzyGajing]

400 million is insane. You need to check your numbers bro​@@kampoengbatoe2699

[@aash4688]

​@@ArjunVB666 he said True , u can't said that Giving tuition to Neighbour Kids is a Job .

[@Amjuun]

Even when I was a high schooler I thought Indonesia's education system is so messed up. I spent all my 12 years in national school. When I just got into elementary school, the curriculum changed after a semester. There was a programme called RSBI (Rintisan Sekolah Berstandar Internasional), where school was put on a phase to be upgraded to International Standard (cmiiw). After I graduated elementary school, the curricullum changed and that programme got canceled for my elementary school. At the same time in my middle school the bilingual classes and the student exchange programme got canceled for the same reason. It felt so bad when I tried hard to get into the best national school in the city for those benefits but only to got canceled by the government as the curriculum change. That's not all actually. We actually have 6-days school, and suddenly not long after I got into high school the education ministry introduced 5-days school! It was so tiring to had to go through lesson from 7am-3pm(or even 4pm) when usually 7am-2pm at most... Then the computerized national exam. I really felt it was cheated by someone (I might a bit delutional but whatever). How could no one at the school got 100? Our high school is the best in the city. My most confident subject (that felt easy when I did the exam) only got 70-ish score. Those who I thought smarter than me also had 70-ish scores. Only a few got 80-ish score (and it's only for one or two subject). I cried so hard and complained to the school but nothing. There's no proof. I was so angry that I never pick up my national exam certificate. Sorry for the rant...

[@extracheese1450]

(Dont worry girly/buddy this isthe comment section lol) (Now let me rant too) I was nearing the end of my middle school year(public school) when I propose the idea of entering a private high school to my father, he said will consider when i achive the highest *rank* in my class. But it was during Kurikulum 2013 so theres no ranking system. And after kidsplaining this to him he said education isnt that important at HS level, and that there's no difference between public vs private schools (he went to private christian school all his life from kindergarten to college) (Also the homeroom teacher of our school give back rapports in the order of grades from highest to low, and in my class mine was called first for 3 year straight, not that he was ever there to see it but he just dismissed that ever happened) The worst thing is i knew he would give that kind of opportunity to my brother because he(my brother) is known to be the smartest child. Which is crazy because he only got rank 1 once in his early year of elementary school, my mom is so good at painting images for people oml that the idea is still stuck to this day even after she's gone from the picture

[@anandsharma7430]

Quite surprising. Even the uncommon step of constitutionally mandating a high percentage of national budget to be allocated to education does not guarantee quality education! Asia is a messed up place due to its various ancient cultures - inflexible, unyielding and quick to revert to medieval social order. Very unlike Western systems where oligarchs and conservative think tanks and politicians have to conspire and actively plan and fund regressive policies. This seems to be a fundamental difference between the West and the East. The East with all its spirituality and high culture, cannot adapt, improve or change. PS: I'd also like to appreciate China being one of the first countries to mass deploy AI teachers - they are testing out the dream for mass education. Of course, it cannot replace good teachers, but it can do a lot of the heavy lifting that frees up teachers to focus on important tasks like monitoring, evaluation and suggesting improvements to individual students. Group discussion with a teacher guiding the discussion still remains superior though.

[@ZainKhan-sm8gr]

I really support your analysis. I find it interesting that academics and commentators completely shy away from touching the subject of culture/religion/tradition and it's impact on education within these societies. I think they play a profound role..

[@hi_rrama]

i once lost a spelling bee competition during elementary school bcs the judges (english teachers) can't pronounce basic english words correctly, he's right, most english teachers in indonesia can't even speak english

[@aash4688]

But they can Read Arabic very Well . May you get a Job in Qatar as a Labourer 😂

[@daripada2152]

Thank you very much CNA Insider, it is very eyes opening you mention this issue.

[@nulliusinverba3529]

650 USD a month? not sure where you get the data from, but that is way higher than in reality, bad reporting 6:10

[@Anonymous-8080]

My mother is a primary school teacher in UP State of India. She gets $784 per month.

[@greenarmy1982]

How much then?

[@TheJupiteL]

Especially when she said "comparable to retail cashier and call center agent". They're paid around $200-$350, and that's assuming they're in Jakarta with the highest minimum wage.

[@Noone-lh5rv]

As an Indonesian high school student, there is another problem that came from the students themselves. Most of the students here in the public school have a mindset of not wanting to study as long as they can pass into the next grade, where I always heard them saying "belajar & nilai nga penting, yang penting naik kelas"

[@Manusia_biasa88422]

Indonesia should also import lots of foreign teachers so that Indonesian schools are like international schools and result in highly qualified students

[@meerkats1511]

who pays for their salary for imported teacher? most of the middle income families can't afford the fees, hence stuck in the same quality over and over. Our government doesn't really care abt it,

[@MesutOjil78]

The government cant even pay local teachers. How do you expect them to pay expatriates?

[@healthpedia8908]

I am working as a teacher in government school of India. Most of my students belong to underprivileged section of Indian society. They need special attention but unfortunately most of my time is consumed in performing non teaching work. I am saddled with tasks like performing duty as blo, revising electoral rolls, census work and hundreds of other tasks related to data entry. The Indian government and society only rant how bad Indian government schools are but they never understand situation of teachers. In India neither the people not government takes education seriously. They think that teachers sit free so let's give them all sorts of non teaching work forgetting that we government school teachers are the ones who can uplift kids of underprivileged sections.

[@jeremiasintong6803]

Indonesia is very closed society, education for them is not really important. Religion, tribes, culture are more important than education that is the reason why they change every curriculum and they dont get the result because their society is not really open for free mind, free society and inclusive education

[@doujinflip]

Right, Indonesians don't seem all that interested in going beyond what they grew up with. Globally you're many times more likely to encounter a Filipino, Vietnamese, or Thai person even though Indonesia has about as many people as those three countries combined. Even then it's usually a Chinese-Indonesian, who are their economic elite 1% and aren't considered a core pribumi.

[@sayfolman7752]

Sorry To Say This Religion,Tribe And Culture Also Not Important To Indonesia What Important To Them Is Military Might Defend Spending Likes America, Infrastructure And Education Also Like America 😂😂😂😂

[@annacme-fs5gs]

It's not that education is not important, but the education curriculum is treated as an achievement for the Ministry of Education, which is why they always change curriculum based on who the minister/president is rather than whether it is effective (there are a lot of methods used by private schools and an effective problem-solving learning method but it usually in expensive schools or higher class education that even middle-class can't access and government don't care about applying it on their public schools)

[@priscillaferguson267]

What a fascinating insight to the education structure, techniques, and how technology plays a role in the classroom. I truly believe that India, China, and Indonesia will be the future global leaders in the 21st Century. Not just talking about education but actually addressing the problems and challenges it faces with a viable plan and then actually implementing real solutions. It takes vision, openness to accepting new technologies and ideas in order to develop young minds into its country’s future leaders.

[@jimmylam9846]

One shouldn't put China with those two countries in the same level. The literacy, IQ rate and work ethics China is winning in a big margin.

[@priscillaferguson267]

@ Of course it is. I believe that the clip was about the rise of the 3 largest Asian countries and its educational challenges and AI models for development and innovation.

[@GeoSandi]

An independent curriculum, instead of making you free to think and reason, actually makes you free to be stupid. because the human resources are not yet properly prepared and forced to implement them without strengthening the basic fundamentals.

[@zorrokantoi5538]

correct me if I’m wrong. A friend told me that it was a common and acceptable practise for final year university students in Indonesia to enggage a third party (either seniors, lecturers, family members) to prepare their dissertation/thesis

[@radjah736]

The bottom line is the education in Indonesia is not priorities, the goverment more interested with infrastructure. The young generation more difficult to get affordable education to highest level. The more low level generations, the more beneficial for political parties to easily get the votes😢

[@eddyr1041]

Strangely govt. Spending fir education is quite high. Never been higher😅. Quite a far fall.... started from one of best education in Asia africa

[@roryasrorri701]

​@@eddyr1041 Haiyah. Gojek and Tokopedia failed to make profit. Year after year it continues. Even after Tiktok 'bought' them. Nadiem is as guilty as everyone else in our goverment. And now they want us to pay for their incompetence by taxing the heck out of us.

[@imeakdo7]

​​@@eddyr1041they probably are just using it to hire useless personnel instead of actually putting that money to work. Infrastructure gets you votes because you can go there and touch it with your bare hands and stand on it, education does not because you can't touch it with your bare hands

[@EUROSPORTS4TECH]

As a Pakistani I feel our education system is far better 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰

[@Tumanggor-sq2xp]

​@@EUROSPORTS4TECHPakistan more worst Poor country in Asia

[@cdp1253]

Love this documentary, CNA. You never fail to give us a better perspective on the future of Asia and the world. You're channel is a blessing, and I hope I can contribute in your news agency soon ;)

[@kunalvarshney9927]

In India courses like CA CS CMA have become a joke in the the of professionalism

[@smarteveryday1606]

Shriti The journalist is very bold, strong and confident, i really like her personality.

[@MohamedAbdirahman-w4n]

Wow Indonesia is much clean than India, the air looks much fresher

[@Shivam-f1r2d]

It's expected from you that you think delhi and mumbai is India. More than 90% India is clean enough to live other than mumbai and delhi. . There are some problems over there as well but they are much much cleaner

[@SilverScarletSpider]

China 🇨🇳 Indonesia 🇮🇩 Mexico 🇲🇽 Brazil 🇧🇷 Argentina 🇦🇷 will rise

[@concernedcitizens4110]

Yeah if they have technocrats in charge not politicians or strongmen. Unfortunately looking at all of these countries the outlook is still grim.

[@xzyeee]

The sickening tragedy is that the modern global society and all the systems therein (political, economic, health, education, justice/legal) are managed in such a way that children around the world are being submitted to extraordinary social injustices. The society and its systems should be managed to fit the educational, socio-emotional and life management needs of the children as much as possible but the complete opposite exists. It all boils down to ongoing corruption or the entrenched, historical effects of corruption from previous eras.

[@satyam-evajayate438]

It's important to understand that education is knowledge and education is not for job. Utilize the knowledge to differentiate nuances of various skills and what's your passion. By blending the skills and passion, identify your future course journey. It's not easy but take as it evolves without peer pressure!

[@MiftahAthink]

Semenjak zonasi, murid pintar dicampur dengan murid tak pintar di kelas yang sama. Kurikulum merdeka lebih banyak proyek bukannya berfokus pada ujian yang muridnya disuruh mengerjakan soal setiap hari. Presentasi, diskusi dan kerja kelompok lebih dominan di kurikulum merdeka bukannya mengerjakan soal ujian. Itulah kurikulum merdeka di Indonesia yang tidak sinkron dengan penilaian PISA (programe international student assessment)

[@maulanazahrawan5755]

Saya setuju bahwa rata-rata sekolah kita belum siap untuk sistem zonasi. Tapi pendapat terkait proyek dan lainnya, saya justru heran ketika ada yang menganggap strategi pembelajaran seperti ini buruk. Dengan proyek anak dilatih untuk terbiasa menyelesaikan masalah, membangun karakter baik, kemampuan manajemen, kolaborasi dan lain sebagainya. Presentasi dan diskusi pun hanya satu bagian untuk melatih itu. Hanya saja memang, ide-ide bagus dari pusat akan sia-sia manakala sdm di akar rumput tidak sanggup untuk menerapkan dengan baik. Sebenarnya, proyek, diskusi, presentasi, dan strategi-strategi lain yang menekankan pembelajaran berpusat pada siswa sudah ada sejak kurikulum sebelumnya. Ini bukan baru pada Kurikulum Merdeka.

[@MiftahAthink]

@maulanazahrawan5755 dari kurtilas. Cuma kurtilas terpengaruh ujian nasional yang menuntut anak untuk bisa menjawab soal. Tapi kan ted PISA fokusnya menjawab soal seperti ujian nasional. Cuma soal ujian nasional beda sekali dengan soal PISA jadi murid banyak yang kesulitan dan jadinya peringkat PISAnya rendah

[@Alipr30]

3:35 as you can see, this is an everyday and "normal" you have to see, want to know why? the teacher and their parents also do the same thing. It explains everything.

[@amaziakristanto2301]

The quality of Indonesian students is very low😔

[@readyforknowing3009]

Malesia pun sama.

[@sayfolman7752]

Sorry We Rank Higher Then Indonesia

[@TunTeja2707]

​@@readyforknowing3009.. 😅😅😅 Kenapa nk sebut Malaysia?. Apa salah Malaysia kt sini... Singapore lebih lagi maju dan banyak org Cerdik , tapi Malaysia tidak pernah menyalahkan Singapore.. Kalau nak berjaya, Kejayaan org lain jadikanlah semangat, Bukan nyinyir..

[@constantaify]

Teachers should, in my opinion, come together worldwide to share ideas of educational reform in a transforming competitive environment and experiences and approaches of teaching (brainstorming). They might also talk about effective activism for their government. One could call this a transnational movement for education.

[@__Martiandodo]

The reality is India's condition is not worst u can say it is something below to worst in rural settings interms of quality education,and drop rates. Tbh government should shut down the Hindi medium schools not just Hindi but all languages and stick to English, because there is a hierarchy which everyone knows and this inequality is so big that u won't find any youth working in MNC from Hindi or any state board medium,and since they don't have good command on the language;they can't even use the ocean of knowledge, internet for quality education atleast on theory part forget the practical. It should be illegal teaching kids in Hindi or any other regional languages specially for poors and lower middle class.

[@manfreds.6384]

Saar! You are anti-national Saar! India is greatest civilization in the world Saar! You are jealous of India Saar! 🤡 /s

[@pintukumar-ub2hv]

I totally agree with you, childhood discrimination chose language to studies the growth and development of poor people, they are very intelligent but language stuck the carriers development, especially in Bihar 😢

[@Cursor_point234]

BS

[@pch1147]

Giving kids hope and incentivising them to achieve by encouraging a self belief and identifying the true potential within them will serve to build their motivation and enthusiasm to learn. They have to truly feel that their education is vital to their well-being.

[@edhikurniawan]

IMHO the main problem with education is when everyone in the said country isn't even qualified to improve education. Not the teacher, not the parents, not the government, not the friends, it just everyone within the country. Even for instance, importing teacher is like dropping a drop of water in a pond. You highly graduated, then what? Your coworker, your boss, the government, even the costumer you're facing cannot see your value. They still ask you dumb jobs and stupid pays. Even being smart isn't a virtue, either you be a servitude for the others like a slave, or being an outcast of the society. You're weird, you're smartass, etc. You hear something like that often. Also, i want to highlight the food is an integral part of the effort to educate a nation. Take Indonesia for example. While the country is touted to be having the best cuisine in the world. Or what we believe so. It is not nutritional. I read a WHO paper study from an Indian researcher. Our citizen is nutritionally bad, like 80% they eat the same thing over and over. What they eat isn't as diverse as it should. Nasi and lauk pauk combination. The nasi part always in higher proportion. I could only write something like this since i realises the importance of 4 sehat 5 sempurna program back then when I'm in kindergarten. Then i asked, even rebels to my parents and caretaker to comply.

[@TheMinimumPC]

11:40 this is a clear mistranslation. The PhD candidate said the dropout rate was “60% high”. It sounds like she was saying it was 60% higher than the estimate. The journalist heard that and thought it was the dropout rate that was 60%

[@letsparchmentitupyo7566]

the people chosen to interview were fabulous choices. their knowledge and own research! such an interesting doco

[@musamusa990]

I would like to highlight that Nadiem Makarim is an alumnus of Harvard University. However, under his leadership, Indonesia’s education system delivered the worst quality. In my opinion, Indonesia now ranks among the lowest in terms of education quality compared to the other three countries in question. It is particularly concerning that there are junior high school students who remain illiterate, unable to read or write. This raises an important question: how is it possible for students to graduate from elementary school (K-12) yet still lack basic literacy skills?

[@羅皓宇]

This is how China defines youth unemployment 1. You must have been actively looking for a job in the past three months. 2. You must have work experience (which directly excludes all new graduates). 3. You are not “unemployed” if you work one hour a week.

[@Aditav8680]

Do one episode on overpopulation & Family Planning failure! A country capable of feeding 30 crores population is handling 140 crores+ population!

[@icerivers9627]

As the saying goes in Biology's Evolution Theory: "Survival of the fittest, elimination of the unfit." Education now evolves so fast that the unfit students fall by the millions.

[@kiwee4577]

It's really worrying to see when I saw an interview where this generation of high school students HAVE to search the internet when asked for a typical general knowledge question of their OWN country

[@mexicanmomo]

I can see all these countries are facing same problem. Probably Only China is spending more to achieve its objective. Only solution to this problem is 1. Better quality teachers. To retain them gov needs to spend more. 2. Make education interesting. AI can be helpful, but it has its side effects as well. 3. Education should not mean exams only. 4. Let the students enjoy education, let them allow to ask questions.

[@Shivam-f1r2d]

AI is a stupid choice. You should be saying make it more creative and problem solving

[@tcsl6603]

In 1962, during the Sino-Indian Border Self-Defense Counterattack, China assessed the combat strength of the Indian Army. Since China had never fought India before, there was insufficient understanding of the Indian Army's capabilities. Additionally, India claimed to be the "leader of the Non-Aligned Movement" and the "world's third military power," which led to China overestimating India's military strength. After the war, the Chinese military defeated the Indian Army in just one month. Chairman Mao Zedong described the combat ability of the Indian Army as "equivalent to the second-tier troops of the Kuomintang, not on the same level as the five main forces of the Kuomintang."...

[@JA-pn4ji]

You're right that China overestimated Indian combat ability. The Indian army was originally a colonial army serving the British. In the 19th and 20th Century the Indian army (sepoys) gained loads of combat experience over 100 years fighting for the British in the Opium wars, Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia, South Africa, WW1 and WW2. At the end of WW2, the Indian army numbered 900,000 men with British equipment (machine guns, tanks, artillery). India inherited all this at independence and yet by 1962, just 17 years after WW2, they could not defeat China whose army were peasant guerilla fighters. So much for combat experience!

[@burhanuddinsurana2576]

Indian education doesn't provide quality of education.Hence its behind from developed nations.

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[@huychanmealea1144]

In Cambodia the teacher’s salary is even lesser than Indonesia. The education system is completely poor that encourages the private school growth remarkably and parents need to spend a lot of money to pay for their children education.

[@hafizhassan9786]

China is still having big gap between rural and urban students as most urban have pressure from the communities for getting high education, then good jobs afterwards. The pressure suffered by the students are much higher compared to Indonesia and India. Many Chinese parents sending their kids abroad for getting better exposure and qualification to have advantage than local universities qualified students. Meanwhile India and Indonesia have still problem with poverty and the gap between poors and riches are much wider compared to China. However, India have better education system due to English command and Indian students much better in terms of Math and Science compared to Indonesia. In Indonesia only elites can enjoy better education and good English as the system itself emphasis Bahasa Indonesia and lack of skills to compete at international level inclluded high skills work force to attract investors compared to India.

[@thefakewilliam]

The alternate fact of India having better education than China😅

[@livetex-flourish]

China is running in the stage of technology and modernized system. Their system is much better than western countries. Everything is provided for rural or urban areas by government only is that some minor people just ignored by ethnic group for their culture support. Not like a majority of India, Indonesia and others still struggling for digital systems. Those two countries doesn't stand near the bottom of China development.

[@annisasholikhah5372]

the teacher's salary is 650$ in Indonesia???? I don't think so. it depends on their status. The lowest salary for many teachers is 5$-30$ per month. but if they're qualified for P3K or civil servant they'll get around 300$ per month. this is quite small, making it hard for them to upgrade their skills. not to mention their administration's job, too much time on it rather than "teaching". The school did not provide help to do non-stop administrations, so they are working on it for a long time rather than real teaching or researching to improve the lesson.

[@ahm--yf4046]

31:30 why she speaks Chinese when she is an English teacher?? Is it because her school does not want her to say some unsavory things? 10:44 this lady is saying something dangerous against for the party...Hope she is stay safe

[@sigyul2283]

Obviously she is more comfortable and more eloquent speaking in her native tongue, which is Chinese. People who are narrow minded tend to intepret other's words in their own twisted logic. Keep your fake concern to yourself.

[@gardenjoy5223]

Just love the anti-bullying programs! So good to see the teens think about it, and how they get aware that it's stupid behavior. Bullying is a harsh form of torture. You are literally hurting someone on the inside till they are all twisted and broken. It's incredibly mean and detrimental to any well-being. It ought to be banned throughout the world.

[@RifJohnson]

the system failed the society in Indonesia. broken educational system. low salary for teacher results to underqualified teacher.

[@MrJm323]

10:28 ....Well, this problem in China was known for a while now. There was that 1999 movie, that played internationally, and is known in English as "Not One Less" starring real-life people, playing themselves, essentially (as amateur actors), produced by Zhang Yimou; the star was Wei Minzhi, a real life middle school student hired by the rural village mayor to replace the adult teacher, who, in the movie, had to go out of town to attend to family business, The girl who performs as the substitute was dealing with the problem of kids dropping out to find work to support their families. ...A great movie, very moving (touching, that is).

[@concernedcitizens4110]

India, China and Indonesia are literally facing the same problem all thanks to a government that’s more interested in playing politics (in the case of Indonesia and India), imperialism (China) and literal erosion of freedom of expression (applies to all 3).

[@udayviruppal3730]

I'm an Indian. China's is ACTUALLY DOING VERY WELL. It was a friendly destination for investment until 2020 but now it only promotes that in defence and stratégic industries because it's preparing for war.

[@Donadoni-f3j]

I'm from Indonesia. I can say that education in Indonesia regarding mastery of technology is getting worse over time. There are systematic efforts by foreign parties secretly to eliminate several important subjects so that Indonesia cannot progress, be technologically and economically independent, and even lead to stupidity. It is not only related to preventing the control of technology that evil efforts are being made, but there are also efforts to cause moral decadence by changing the curriculum which was originally good to become bad, especially in formal schools. Among other things, by placing people who do not have knowledge & expertise in their fields in important positions in the field of national education.

[@anziar3038]

S'poreans are blessed with a highly educated population, thanks to the first-world PAP govt.👍👍

[@zerochan-tl1ke]

Melayu Singapur segera punah😂😂

[@hasnanhashim4386]

Its a city state 60x40 km wide....duh

[@AB_123_AB]

LoL. 6 million people.

[@jkbc]

we need to disclose how this PISA test ranking was determined though. Which students in Indonesia that are chosen as samples. Indonesia is a vast country, there are big cities and many villages, the students quality in big cities would have big discrepancy compared to students from small villages. If you chose students from good quality schools in Jakarta, Bandung, Surabaya the result would have been higher than if you picked students from the villages or low performance students in the cities I mentioned earlier.

[@owl6218]

teacher training and 'teaching education' does not solve any problem.....if you want to have good science teachers, first find candidates who have studied science well...no amount of 'teacher training' can cover the lack of good first time exposure to the subject. same in language teaching. find people who have acquired good language skills first, who have read enough, who have learnt to compose and comprehend. then a light polishing is all that is need to make them into teachers.

[@maithaiyou]

Thank you for a wonderful production. Insightful. Far reaching. Professional journalism in every way. I feel privileged to see it for free :-)

[@jye7027]

just because cna sent a reporter to interview a few persons, they know everything about a country education system. I call this garbage journalism

[@George-f8h]

Eye opening report.

[@myramx]

at least choose indonesian kids that is excellent in english so when they got interviewed, show em we can also speak english, sighed

[@saritabonita5559]

Then, it won't reflect the said data.

[@sontoloyo-zo9er]

because there is none including their teachers....what a shame

[@yasafebrianuswantoro3610]

The video tried to showcase the problem with education, what's the point with choosing smart students? It's better to show the real average students with their real ability

[@hungaryhusar6567]

yeah only 1% that can speak fluenlty.

[@roryasrorri701]

CNA don't pay their team enough for that hahahahaha badjingan lucu tapi bikin sakit

[@nathannataatmadja3349]

Indonesian here. I was a student in one of the best private school in Jakarta in the 90s. I have noticed a bit of change for the better such as anti bullying. In my time, bullying was encouraged as supposedly to prepare students to survive in a real world (yes, I do think this is bullsh..). But the biggest reason why Indonesia has the lowest score in education internationally: too many mandatory subjects to learn that do not usefull in the real world from unqualified teachers. But please score Indonesian students about religion (especially Islam) internationally, I bet you the country would score number one (beating even the Arabs!). So at least we are good in the afterlife:-)

[@drneeraj9061]

problem in india is castism which affect social and education background

[@villegelifeexplorer]

Lol

[@JuneKafaltiya-y6p]

If you think govt. Don't have problem but this system you are wrong, if govt. "Wishes" things can be bright immediately, let's take an example, look into "why" indore and surat are cleanest city, your mind would be blown that "govt" is even capable of this, Uttarakhand has one of the highest literacy rates in the country, and it's beacuse of early govt. Camps conducted were good and effective, teaching how bad this system is a norm in uttarakhand, and most youngsters don't care, most parents belive you are nothing w/o education, even in mounatins so much walk kilometers of tracking yet schools are full of children!! Minus temp, bad roads yet kids go to schools, early education campaigns helped to create this mindset, if govt. Wishes they can easily get the work done period

[@muhammadshofyan3310]

Masalah utama ny, terkhusus mayoritas di pinggiran kota dan desa, kesenjangan antara pendapatan orang tua dengan biaya pendidikan, jenjang sekolah TK dan SD itu biaya ny sudah membuat orang tua banyak putus asa. Kalau kuliah, jangan di tanya biaya ny. Maka rata pendidikan SMP dan SMA.

[@LuciThomasHardylover-qx6ts]

A very biased report that handing our future over to ai is the panacea for all the problems. A good report should look at all the issues. Especially when you go to China and sit at the table with a government minder while two teachers parrot about how wonderful ai is in the classroom. China...the home of dystopian surveillance!! When the problem is poor teachers,improve your teachers. When children are too poor to go to school, improve their lot. Throwing technology in brings a whole new set of problems. The conversation about the collapse of 'educational apps' didn't actually explore why they failed except to say how things got better when people got free data. Children are still the same little bodies that they were 20 years ago or 200 years ago. They learn by doing. Tapping a screen and learning bad, American full of slang and jargon isn't going to bring out the creative skills and confidence that are really necessary for society. There are only so many calls centre staff or programmers required in the world. Where are the teachers educating the inventors of tomorrow?

[@phillip76]

China is not a bad place compared to any country in planet earth. Bias as f

[@Grason20]

The point is: AI can be powerful in the aid of teaching, when used right. AI cannot be the main focus. It is meant to be supplementary.

[@DipJyotiDeka]

the edtech didn't necessarily fail, but it's management did. During pandemic as physical schools were closed everyone migrated to edtech to keep up with their education. After resumption of physical schools, the investment of resources in edtech was stretched as the demand had already peaked. This is very similar to gaming industry and Netflix.

[@DipJyotiDeka]

The comments give me hope that Indonesia is doing better than what they are showing here. The first step to resolving a problem is to accept that there is a problem.

[@benedictfranches1258]

Singapore media propaganda

[@ryerye9019]

The poor education system has turned ignorance into hostility.

[@hungaryhusar6567]

cope

[@sayfolman7752]

Agree And Disagree,They Make Good Content And Biased Content About Neighbors Country

[@Ken-or1fd]

9 years compulsory education in China is like almost 100% even in rural area cause I am from the rural area of China.

[@redmigeeold1417]

What exactly is it that the students did not get to learn? And which country would be that shiny example that provides wholesome education to their students?

[@arthurfleck1554]

The Netherlands, Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, to name a few .

[@redmigeeold1417]

@@arthurfleck1554 Then why is it that they aren't able to compete after the wholesome education.

[@arthurfleck1554]

@@redmigeeold1417 Compete with what? The manufacturing of cheap consumer goods? They leave that to countries who pay slave wages to their employees or not pay them at all. The countries that I have mentioned have kept the production of precision equipment, expensive medicines, really expensive cars and the most precise machinery you can image (ASML).

[@spicyowl3348]

Number one and only homework for Indonesia on the field of education; GUARANTEE THE PROSPERITY OF THE TEACHERS. ONLY THEN QUALITY FOLLOWS! GOOD TEACHERS ARE COSTLY, BUT BAD TEACHERS COST MORE! Where the money necessary comes, you ask? Cut military and be more Strick on corruption. Everyone knows this, but has no heart to do.

[@BlackTheEngineer]

Is this an issue in Thailand as well or just these 3 countries?

[@izzatfauzimustafa6535]

Nobody is ready to admit that researchers themselves have no idea on what real-life solutions that will slowly help teachers, students and the society in general. As long as schools in all Asian countries are peddling the concept of doing more chores, paperwork and deal with more bureaucracy but with stagnated salaries and increasing burnouts, nothing will ever change for the better. Being on top of the PISA scores mean nothing, because it has become a tool for exam-oriented countries to do "apple polishing" on their edu system by selecting only top-ranking schools in metropolis areas to do the tests. PISA tests don't even measure critical and creative thinking skills. Instead, it has become a way for some countries to compensate for their own economic and political insecurities or weaknesses.

[@chandragupta4171]

Can we learn technical education in Hindi medium in India in the near future?

[@Ananda2973]

In Malaysia, its your background and colour.

[@sayfolman7752]

So You Have Problem With That ,You Don't Want To Abolished Your Great Ancestors Motherland(India) Language And Don't Want To Use National Language But You Want Equal Right Hey Macha If We Malays Lives In India For 200 Year But Don't Want To Speak Tamil,Telugu Etc Will India Give Us Equal 😂😂😂

[@MarselStg-p6v]

THE PROBLEM IS, THE GOVERNMENT WANTS MUSLIMS TO BE FRONTLINED IN EVERYTHING IN INDONESIA 😂

[@veramae4098]

U.S. 1983, "A Nation at Risk". Very few recommendations were followed.

[@williambranch4283]

How can non-Asians judge the literacy of Asians? Orientalism?

[@JBear-in1ql]

Although this video makes valid and informative points, one needs to take into account the GDP per capita of these countries to meaningfully analyze the issues raised. Basically some of these countries are doing not as poorly as this video seems to indicate if one considers that they are developing economies and are at an early stage of developing their education system. It’s a bit surprising that CNA seems to be using developed countries standards to analyze the performance of developing countries. This journalist mentions she taught at graduate level in France-a country with 9 times the GDP per capita of Indonesia. Also if the conclusions are biased by comparing graduate level to primary and secondary level education, this is a flawed thesis.

[@Delllatitude7490]

Education system everywhere is trash, never heard of one person who is praising thier education system, everyone is bashing it all day (including me) the problem maybe is not in the system itself, but the mindset, parents, teachers, children, every single person is a stakeholder in this system, but we just bash the government or parents. But here's the thing, people don't want to change, they like the idea of change, but they don't act, and governments are toooooooooo sloooowww, like if someone is brave enough to try and produce something, it is either outright dissmeseed as regressive or no one cares. This is the reality. When you teach children Money is the way forward to have a better life even at the coast of thier own life, children tend to well.. rebel in thier own way. I have seen people putting so much pressure to pass a single exam that's gonna "decide" thier fate? A single exam to decide the fate of a human? Really? 12-16 hours of grind a day? This is what the "system" is doing to humans, your value is as much as the certificate you own, nothing else matters, no one cares about thier well being, even parents want results. If you say anything, you are told "Diamonds only created at high pressure" but we are humans, not shiny rocks! As long as this mindset doesn't change, so is the so called education system.

[@heiditamba9281]

hope everything will improve in the near future,,

[@erialbar]

Educational not just brain Social educational Emotion educational Humanity educational

[@SelfSustainableCity]

Addressing the education crisis across Asia is crucial for the future of these young generations. As we modernize systems with AI and new technology, it’s essential to also explore ways to bring education back to its roots, grounding students in the value of simplicity, sustainability, and a deeper connection to the environment. A well-rounded approach may inspire future leaders who value balance in both technology and nature. 🌿