Educational Smurfing but... BSJ is COACHING!?!?

[@Catfish3000]

Bro BSJ - we need you to coach one team and the other team has to be coached by Jenkins.

[@dnrevan778]

A video edited to show both sides of the comms would be so sick!

[@jackblack5907]

I needs this

[@seim6654]

Or it could be Speed in the other team.

[@seeker530]

Yeah jenkins and bsj would be hype

[@akribraouf5663]

Keep liking this comment guys

[@angelostarick]

BJS = ˜Communicate as u usually do in a pub˜. Someone say ˜Can we do tormentor?˜. Also BSJ = *Pause game* ˜Can u stop communicating as u usually do in a pub?˜

[@horse-4598]

That part was hilarious he actually paused the game to tell them not to have any ideas 😂

[@feist__]

To be fair he mentioned that they shouldn't suggest it - SAY you're gonna do it

[@MrSamu85]

"Play your own game boys, I'm just here to tell you about runes and stuff" precedes to micro manage 5 players every movement 😂. Very entertaining indeed. Wp BSJ

[@junojuno3745]

tbf they would've lost so bad had he not been there to tell them what to do, and maybe without the Hoodwink's plays.

[@naprimjer6593]

​@@junojuno3745i'd rather lose than play and win in this game

[@samuelelias5115]

@@naprimjer6593 well, the purpose is to learn. This is a lobby with exactly 0 on the line and they were up against some pretty meta picks. Dire team had one of strongest drafts. Two of the strongest supports (dazzel and venge) one of the 3 strongest carry (gyro, others are sven and PA), the mid and offlane were kinda swapped but dawnbreaker and earthspirit are both pretty broken heroes this patch. I think dope that they won and hope they learned in the process

[@Петърчо]

Came to say exactly that. 😂🤣

[@loveluclins]

@@samuelelias5115 Honestly a bit disappointed they went this tryhardy in a friendly scrim.

[@ThePopey13]

Zeus barely keeping his cool at being told to do stuff he literally can't do, poor guy xD

[@BangaWangaTschanga]

He was so important for pushing 😅 I felt for him too

[@Sieursweb]

I feel that without coaching radiant would have lost in 30 minutes. Really nice showcase of how strategic of a game Dota really is. I would definitely try to put more thought on how to win fights like that. Also Hoodwink plays were really impressive, good job dude!

[@holohulolo]

Im not convinced. I want dire players to play radiant and each side using exactly the same hero, as in radiant using the heroes radiant using now and vice versa. Then have bsj to coach the dire instead. Both would have some experience like the dire would now know bsj is going to tell radiant to aim their dazzle, but radiant would also know to go on dazzle first and how important it is and probably more committed to it, because that am didn't seem to understand. it until maybe the last maybe 15min. The only other factor is just how well each player know those heroes because they are playing heroes they are familiar with.

[@loveluclins]

@@holohulolo No, dire would win so incredibly hard. They've got an infinitely better draft than radiant and the coaching is probably the only reason they lasted at all. It's kinda sad they pulled out such a tryhardy draft for a scrim tbh.

[@Jebu911]

@@loveluclins I mean dire didnt have a coach so i think them having more meta heros evened things out pretty well. I mean this match was damn long i havent had a match go over 60minutes in 5 years.

[@SinisterMJ]

The amount of micromanagement was surprising. Also, this was, from a legend players point of view, the most tenacious team when it comes to trying to kill me. That was the main difference I felt that they were insanely focused on killing me as Dazzle, way more than I usually feel in pubs.

[@MrRipYourHeadOff]

I'm surprised BSJ didn't recommend aeon disk for your dazzle. I would've opted for aeon disk+aether lens and staying out of vision to keep myself alive as long as possible

[@unproffessionelll9103]

@@MrRipYourHeadOff Night Stalker got nullifier, so the aeon would've only helped a little. Staying out of vision more would have been the play, although its hard to play that way and save teammates

[@MrRipYourHeadOff]

@@unproffessionelll9103 Yeah true but for the first half of the game where he didn't/couldn't have nullifier it's still very useful

[@AziDama]

enemy of the state

[@sergzsantiago505]

I think glimmer and forcestaff on either support would have been the way to go. No chance they'll have vision from having to kite. Especially late when nightstalker doesn't have inventory for dust. Also they won't go in unless you're out of position and as weird as it is. They wouldn't go on u if you were in between to your team. That would not be kiting. You could also just bait yourself into having nightstalker over extend like he did many times. But really y'all lost the last fight because you didn't know where the enemy was coming from and jumped for free. I always have a ward for fights only or where I think the fight is going to happen next. It's still tough playing dazzle when other team knows to kill you. It is what it is brother lol

[@DanielCodyBloedow]

This is bar none, the best educational content you've ever released Brian. Fucking hell man. More of these please. I learnt so much by watching this. So good. 100/10

[@kjyu]

The video was much better than what i thought it would be about from the title, this is super interesting and I'm gonna work to be at least in part this aware of the overall gameplan in the future!

[@Azzurite]

Really good editing, not overdone and exactly at the points where it was most impact. Also, love the timestamps.

[@spudnic5849]

Hoodwink was easily the best player in this game. Some of those catches were brilliant.

[@marularch]

BSJ: I'm not gonna micro manage you guys. /5 minutes later/ BSJ: Zeus TP mid and send your illusions down the lane!!

[@sakalamlangsakalam2173]

well he needed to step up more as a coach as a game not that easy its improvising at its finest

[@surdeus.]

bro his coaching for the team not just for 1 person that action change a lot if zues ddnt do it. so I guess its the correct way

[@KiesStaminho]

@@surdeus. He is referring to the TP zues didnt have. DUDE TP MID NOW

[@connorbrown952]

"I'm not going to micromanage"... proceeds to micromanage the whole game. You just can't help yourself

[@DissarayJay]

Let's be honest we all knew that was a lie the moment he said it

[@ZachisSublime]

Dude I loved this video! Hoodwink was playing EXTREMELY well! He had some really clutch bushwhacks.

[@dnrevan778]

As a long time viewer of bsj on KZbin and twitch, this was by far some of my most favorite content he has put out. Thank you sir!

[@berryesseen]

Imagine BSJ micromanaging every single thing in the game. It would be madness.

[@soldieroftruth77]

35:39 “Do I have to tell you to join team fights?” Haha yes, yes you do. Peak pub experience.

[@dudebro4089]

this is way better than when you play because when the players dont understand you kind of explain shit. love to see it man

[@rub3l]

No microing turned into full microing it seems

[@zaxcord]

Felt so bad for rhe Zeus getting yelled at about tp (especially at 1:01:00 when he legit didn't have it!)

[@XenomorphgamerBR]

Yeah, kinda sad

[@meffzchannel]

I always ping or say "x second cd". That would've been understandable. I dont feel bad at all for him. He had a very bad attitude toward his supports on earlygame only to not show in crucial teamfights in midgame. He should just play support if he's not happy with how his supports play.

[@soldieroftruth77]

He had it coming.

[@Aeliasson]

Yeah, I think BSJ was looking at illusion inventory

[@JS-tm1gq]

36:12 I would pay $100 for this as a chat wheel voiceline

[@Proper-G]

This might be my favourite educational smurf video.

[@aminferdowsi9971]

awesome content,i loved the tptptptp parts(also u guys forget to check the replay and show the zeus he had the TP on that moment)

[@Sinergy.yt.]

I didn't have TP at that moment XD it was on cooldown kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGith4mAhr-YrNksi=q0LejT6PV3447WYU&t=3656

[@troykimball2011]

Hood carried so hard

[@RealChadR]

Hoodwink with god tier bushwhack

[@Raphael.P.]

BSJ: you can farm this small camp am, youre fine AM: farms 1 creep, dies while running away🤣🤣🤣

[@makanfaraji5250]

god tier thumbnail though🤣

[@ez_guess]

The level difference between players is actually insane. On one side Zeus and AM goofing around and reacting frustratingly slowly, and on the other hand ES and Hoodwink true gigachads with God tier stuns. Cores vs supports difference? Is it actually harder to gain MMR as support?

[@jamiecoleman773]

and Zeus use of E and showing on lane all the time was driving me up the wall.

[@aivi8142]

Zeus on that 10 APM gameplay

[@ktreadsruns]

Hahahaha 200 ping

[@naturalselection802]

I loved this! If you do more of this in the future maybe invite the team that did not get coaching to come back into the next game to be coached instead of flipping a coin and just keep it going that way.

[@kagametzu]

Then the rank is just gonna keep going up since the team now that got coached is lower than the dire. And next the dire will be coached but the new enemy team have to be a higher mmr than the dire and its just gonna keep going up

[@loust1264]

"all my homies hate dazzle" so true

[@satyam168]

Let's hate someone cuz they better than us. - Every loser ever

[@SK3564]

I thought I wouldn't be able to watch this video in one go but it was too much fun so I did :p Please make more content like this! Sometimes also as a player we wish for the game to look a certain way but you noticed you had to micro people to be able to make your vision happen. It would be interesting to see how you'd adapt your calls if you couldn't micro as much.

[@imbalizzardguy9450]

This is the greatest. We need these weekly! Helps a lot

[@KristophJeffers]

This is really helpful for teaching us how to call shots and map movements if the team needs a captain

[@---we8bx]

That AM and zues are herald.

[@jacoboconnor249]

I feel like this was the perfect example of dota being a bunch of little tasks to complete that all push the ultimate goal of winning the game. Was a great watch and a great learning experience!

[@progressivegeoff]

This is the best content I've seen in a while. PERIODT.

[@jasonevans2178]

Just when you think educational smurf couldn't get better... boom BSJ blows your mind

[@quaweds]

Dude lost his shid when you said you liked his hw KEKW @1:26:42

[@arielvillarruel6281]

This was amazing, it just exceeded everyone's expectations both from the players and BSJ himself, anything could've happened but I think the video idea is great.

[@DissarayJay]

Finally a proper long video i was atarting to get sick of all this short form content lately 1h+ vids are the best kind

[@brynharper3231]

Great video and we are getting a different kind of education from this video to the normal smurf game which i think is more beneficial for players at the lower levels for game timing and fight timings appreciate all you do BSJ

[@flannn6]

for Odin's sake that zeus wasting his 3rd aggressively then dying every single engagement is so harsh to watch

[@secretninja35]

Zeus being 100% correct about tp on cooldown and continuing to play in this 80 minute abomination is a mental fortitude I lack.

[@TheSurrealWolf]

Awesome video! And fair play to the team. Was a very hard draft to make work and some of those fights were crisp!

[@Meyveda]

This video would be so fun for this Dazzle player to watch))))

[@Destroytheleft]

Poor zeus had 2 secs on the tp when you got mad man 😂

[@24.k.g.f.97]

Really enjoyed this type of content @BSJ best wishes

[@zanido9073]

the problem with this kind of stuff is it's basically a 5.5 vs 5. Having one player who can devote their entire attention to watching the map without having to control a hero is just such a huge advantage.

[@TheCorneliuscheck]

thank you for the good content BSJ, watching this match reduced my life expectation by 3 years ;)

[@iamfdoonut2745]

Hoodwink godly man

[@maykl_tlkn]

Amazing content, I enjoyed it so much. I would love to see more like this in the future)

[@alexsukhanov7918]

Great content! Best type of smurf series, imho.

[@yamasan83]

this is awsome. A lot of things to think about it. Looking for more this kind of stuff.

[@ronfoster6963]

easily BSJ's cutest thumbnail to date

[@quaweds]

Is this the first time Zeus has ever played right click zues? XD rough 1

[@T_Vk1327]

What should have been the losing team had a higher chance based on Bsj seeing where they can fight which was around the ulti timings of NS and Zeus. Creating a unison mindset on when to fight and when not to. Practicing consistency of gank mode to farm mode as a team. Ganking as a team is an objective where its winnable because the entire team are a kite team even into meta heros. WP bsj

[@Mord314]

Man if I was that balanar getting ks'd.

[@bslsk.o]

Very good content. Both educational and entertaining as it was some intense game!! Well played all!!

[@NoobofArchon]

hard to win this draft without such deep strategic insights being provided by the coach.

[@Meyveda]

Great video! I like this one better then when BSJ plays vs his viewers himself. Learned a lot. The radiant team would have lost at 30isj minutes without coaching.

[@jackwalker6475]

AM was frustrating the hell out of me blinking in and almost never using his ult

[@Necropheliac]

Ultimately they made this way harder than it needed to be, by making bad choices in the draft. Specifically picking AM is fine, picking NS is fine, but picking them both for this team was a bad call because it left them kind of limp in team fights vs the dawn breaker, earth spirit combo. If they would have had a tanky initiator, it would have made things way easier.

[@goldentramps]

I love how you were beefing the Zeus so much XD

[@kaleidoscope942]

that zeus was playing so bad Zeus is a mid game powerhouse but he kept jumping in with leap and getting killed for no reason

[@PhysHow42]

He had a real issue with reacting to instructions, though tbf it seemed like he genuinely couldn't hear a lot of the time. If there weren't several slow responses/weird plays before the "I didn't have TP" moment then it probably wouldn't have been an argument. Dude seemed kind of set in the standard mid mindset of aggressively farming top and bottom, and hoping to jump into a team fight halfway through to dump a ton of damage on the enemy. On the other hand, NS seemed like he kind of struggled with the coaching at first, but really quickly started reacting to what was being said in a less brainless way. After the first fuck up where he left his team behind in the smoke and threw the fight, he learned from his mistake and was more mindful to them. Really nice to see.

[@nathanaels9605]

Man as a support player I really felt the pain of BSJ asking them to kill the dazzle 20x times. I play almost exclusively backline support type heros and no matter how much mobility our cores have, so often it is impossible to persuade people to focus targets; Dazzle in particular comes up A LOT. It is always frustrating watching their key backliners live through a near 60 second fight after we jump on their hardest heroes heroes to kill (here dire has 3 tanky AF frontliners). All in all, really enjoyed the change of format and hope to see more Edu Smurfs in the future!

[@jackzickrick1654]

Dazzle needed Shadowblade to go invs vs nullifier. Make AM or NS lose a slot to carry dust

[@SinisterMJ]

I didn't know that Shadow Blade works vs Nullifier. I thought Nullifiers disables absolutely every save I can get.

[@jackzickrick1654]

@SinisterMJ I know so did I! Until I watched Dream league and saw a SD buy it late game to save. Idk why but it doesn't get purged

[@medouke]

@@jackzickrick1654 you can disjoint the nullifier projectile, if you use it after getting nuli'd it still goes away

[@jackzickrick1654]

@medouke this is only true of glimmer cape, both shadow amulet and shadow blade keep their buff and invisibility even when hit by nullifier.

[@medouke]

u rite sb broken@@jackzickrick1654

[@peterdelossantos8381]

😂😂 that AM though. haha if BSJ did not micro manage the zeus properly they would have pushed the bottom lane after that skirmish. And instant GG hahaha

[@ramihana9284]

Ty bsj for all your effort. It was amazing.

[@mc.wildchild]

"I'm not gonna micro." Proceeds to micro and shut them down immediately.

[@rub3l]

Yeah true, that's exactly what i started thinking, so i came to the comment section to see if anyone else talking about it 😂😂

[@satyam168]

​@@rub3lI mean they were useless to begin with. No wonder micro was needed to begin with.

[@rub3l]

@@satyam168 i understand but bsj said he won't micro manage

[@markclynch]

This was fantastic to watch! More content like this!

[@user-gv7jp7lu5x]

you should have a coach that is the same mmr as the teams coaching the other team. It'd make for a better experiment.

[@Jebu911]

Pretty exiting game! Too bad we didn't get to see the scoreboard in the end. I have never seen those last tier neutral items in action because no game goes this late in my bracket. All of them seem so op one would think the game ends pretty fast at that point.

[@rafaelmalate7938]

Love this as a series man.

[@motchness]

lol opposition team went 5 meta heroes

[@kramking6600]

"I'm not gonna tell you to do this and buy this." Moments later did the same thing. What a joke.

[@zarf4219]

This is so good tbh ! I learnt soo much .. that AM had a bit of a bad game tbh

[@spacebarwasd9782]

1:01:00 who's right

[@Maskenken]

BSJ was wrong. You can see the scroll counting down.

[@MrAnanthajith]

Uhuh. Zeus didn't have it until right that moment.

[@Azzurite]

Zeus of course ;) BSJs communication with Zeus wasn't very good this game. BSJ had a lot of implicit knowledge about what's important, which Zeus unfortunately didn't. But BSJ was too slow to realize that and made calls that Zeus couldn't handle like BSJ wanted him to. The problem was that Zeus playing in a certain way was really important in this game, which BSJ understood, but the players' natural playstyle wasn't like this, so Zeus had to learn in-game what this playstyle was, which obviously is really fucking hard. Big respect to the Zeus.

[@dbo3akrowdy]

The am was so had at dodging dawn ulties

[@peterkirk8510]

The AM was really bad in general, but to be fair they're the role where their mistakes will show the most in a team comp like this. Having to play frontline for a kiting comp without free pathing or being able to dash in/out like earth spirit is pretty hard I was so frustrated at him not basically spamming counterspell, there were so many times it was off cd and would've been very nice, and just a few general serious misunderstandings of what he could do (he had to be told to blink TP a bunch). This comes off as a player that knows how to farm pretty well, but has basically no idea of how to teamfight properly, very used to a-moving into the enemy team with a gold advantage and hoping it works out. Looked very uncomfortable doing anything other than jumping and bursting 1 target

[@DissarayJay]

He's the classic gold warrior that is only used to fight with an overwhelming advantage, you can tell the moment there's more to do than just A move in he loses his cool

[@sinakiasalari2302]

I saw the length of the video and didn't watch it first But now I think it's totally great content ❤

[@arquloc0893]

This was very awesome! Learned a lot :D

[@f0rgotteng0st]

Great video! I learned a lot just by watching. Will we ever see more of the Countering Heroes series? I've rewatched them a few times now but there are a lot of heroes I struggle with as a newbie.

[@Renvyr]

Amazing content, very clear & practical

[@sakalamlangsakalam2173]

i suggest bsj coach both teams same picks after ewch games so both teams know what to do and see if that would makes it better and makes big difference and makes them better who aggree?

[@mioszbaca2770]

My eyes hurts soooo much seeing this AM .... I put my trust in that guy to blink on supports more often

[@jamestait7214]

poor zeus man😭😭

[@isengate]

It's frustrating seeing NS not utilizing his 3rd and hard commiting when he shouldn't.

[@user-gv7jp7lu5x]

MORE OF THESE VIDEOS

[@karmakaz1]

1hr 20min for an AM to come online is par for the course...

[@satyam168]

😂

[@edafade]

More of these please.

[@EmersonCloud]

Really fun stuff. thanks for doing this

[@Mord314]

The amount of emphasis on killing dazzle all game

[@asatruvakning]

lol... i want this guy to coach all my matches. he sounds like me when i'm trying to captain my solo-queue pubs... lol. except no one ever listens to me, and he's a hell of a lot smarter/better at the game.

[@mirceskiandrej]

1:01:09 Let the record show that Zeus didn't have TP. NOOBSJ

[@tylercousens3467]

there was a solid 2 seconds he could have tp'd earlier

[@mirceskiandrej]

"solid 2 seconds" is exactly 0.9 seconds. He probably would've tped earlier if he wasn't screamed at and had to explain himself.

[@JackIsNotInTheBox]

More of this please!

[@michaelangelobrinez1321]

the Night stalker keeps repeating the same mistake of overextending

[@maximusaurelius610]

This was a awesome video

[@lorentzen.montoya]

Awesome video, love it! more pls

[@aminferdowsi9971]

im always here if u dont want them to feel singled out

[@KiesStaminho]

1:00:55 Haha, his TP indeed was on cooldown xD

[@igorcastroz]

you are overcommunicating, let me do the talking LOOOOL

[@bran440]

The "mind-refreshing pause" segment has me questioning how useful this exercise really is for the players. I think it would be more useful instead of just saying "Don't make these macro suggestions," to say "Let me explain why these macro suggestions are good or bad in the moment."

[@connorbrown952]

dont be fooled, these videos simply exist to fuel his humongous ego

[@MrRipYourHeadOff]

You're right in theory but I think that was stemming from BSJ just not having the brain RAM to factor in everyone's ideas and then keep them on the same page. I've had a similar issue in battlecup and coaching where if you're trying to synthesize 5 people's gameplans at once it can be super overwhelming and confusing. So that was for the content and BSJ's benefit, not the individual players.

[@kaleidoscope942]

So you think these guys should coach themselves instead of an immortal player. Ok.