BSJ smurfs and faces mega creeps!

[@Tacosoncrack]

"What could you guys possibly ask for more than a disadvamtage than this?" Next video: BSJ smurfs underwater

[@juliusrendon5936]

hahahahahaha

[@julesvetter3326]

My favourite Educational Smurf video so far. The clowny "against all odds" vibe was very entertaining.

[@kodokraksasa6564]

Most smurfs are nowhere as good as BSJ, however they will often use extremely cheesy tactics that will only work in low rank. BSJ only showcases good fundamentals and discipline whereas smurfs will always try to exploit skill differences as hard as they can, which is borderline impossible to counter if you're a lower rank. They will "play on the edge" instead of playing with discipline as you would against an equal or stronger opponent, as they know the skill difference will reward instead of punish any greedy plays they made. For example, a few days ago I met a smurf lastpicking mid MoM travels orchid ursa, which rolled my team hard (I imagine doing this against a rank 500 player would get you reported). A friend of mine once met a 30 winstreak NP rushing bloodthorne, which also rolled his team. Can you make an educational smurf video explaining how these cheese builds work and how to counter them while using one yourself?

[@BigDBrian]

they're just clown builds to have fun at the expense of others tbh

[@swordmeow3041]

dispel items like bkb, lotus, manta, satanic remove orchid/bloodthorne's silence and many other ability effects and low mmr players do not buy or use these items against them because they don't understand when to use it

[@kodokraksasa6564]

@@swordmeow3041 yes, we do not buy them because we do not have money (stomped VERY hard) when facing these smurfs. All the items you mention cost around 4000 gold, not to mention that they are plain useless without the inclusion of a damage item (except manta) You think smurfs will play nice like BSJ does? They will hunt you down everywhere, always trying to force fights and skirmishes. We are not that stupid. This is a 4Head solution that's about as useful as "just tp"

[@JifuChan]

At its fundamental, DOTA is an information game where the more you have the more likely you win. These smurf builds wins because they move across the map where they should be at the right moment. They exploint positioning, objectives, plays etc based on the information they have and move accordingly. It's more of since they know more about the game, they think ahead of time about what to do like item builds, match up, laning, timing, power spikes etc. so they know what to do while in game.

[@user-if6qp1lw2b]

im pretty sure they are building those items to have fun stomping noobs

[@ginnoji.]

"Magnus farming for next game?" "GG Magnus farmville(delete items and run at enemy)" "(Pugna follow Magnus and afk suck XP, and steals the camps that Magnus is farming)" "(Antimage contests the camps that Magnus is farming)"

[@BJlaughs]

46:30 Absolutely insane duel prediction! Watching you play from a deficit like this really makes me appreciate how intense you are.

[@runanargis239]

But HOW did he predict that one tho, he didnt see legion before she blinked in. Also looks like he manta'd frame-to -frame the exact second lc blinked. Im just confused...

[@phunweng962]

@@runanargis239 Because that's the only thing that legion as a hero want to do in the late game.

[@tomekbozza]

Spider sense at 46:30, actually insane

[@Thesinistereyes1]

That's experience for you get when you play enough carry. When you see no one in the map hold your finger over manta or bkb when you approach a wave cause chances are the wave is a bait.

[@mohammadmaaz31]

i would've used satanic and get the kill. the odds of lc coming to gank bottom were 100% so yea get the kill

[@Thesinistereyes1]

@@mohammadmaaz31 that would work if he was completely alone but what if he's not. Then you just threw the game. You dont see anyone on the map chances are they are all there.

[@akifimran9780]

Bro I can’t even… how did he react that fast or just pushed as he was backing off?

[@johndejesusAAB]

That pay to lose item of CM at 32:30 lol

[@devverma144]

i kinda feel like opponents should not be able to see that.

[@fabianngo1959]

rubick's arcana is pretty similar, but it does worth it :D

[@WoobertAIO]

@@devverma144 Luckily there's an alternate style for it that's just the cape without the dog

[@bendixtrinity]

i remember when you can see PL shard achievement, which makes you stand out from other illusions. 🤣🤣

[@stroggs]

Best education series. Tho I think the only thing that’s missing are the usual griefers. This lobby are volunteers from your community so pretty well behaved despite some feeding. Like when your were pushing T2 bot and the enemy were at T3 top, normal pubs wouldve been over the top tilted. Even if you muted them, they would sabotage the game one way or another. 😢

[@mfpisces3623]

Exactly someone should start randomly talking shit and then on top of that randomly die doing tormentor. This is like a neutered pub game

[@zeusfingers2266]

Often true, but you can't make it perfect without actually going into pubs and actually smurfing. Besides, in pubs every person on one team shouldn't be 1000 mmr higher than every other person on the other team, so this is tougher than pubs in some respects.

[@hehenoelo4858]

@@zeusfingers2266 Its absolutely not tougher than some pubs. Its tougher than most pubs for smurf, but some are just unwinnable. often you are like 20:3 before 15 minute and you just cant win that stomp, no matter what mmr you would be.

[@rodineiavion1734]

Most of games enemy is farming your base near t3 and the fucking idiot AM is pushing t2, allright it was you

[@finalform6667]

@@zeusfingers2266 He could tell every player to act exactly like they would in pubs, without fear of getting kicked from future games or the like, that would do it.

[@MyWatermelonz]

Best one yet really nice to see how you can make a bad game work with the right moves

[@DESPISEDIC0N]

You did exactly what I mentioned on the last video with 1k mmr difference! Great content man this was awesome!

[@sirrob0t]

Damn that was a great game, cant wait for the replay analysis

[@AR272fhdodne]

This is every game I’ve ever had with an AM on my team

[@samirranjanmajhi]

Thank you BSJ. I find this video where you are behind way more useful than when you're stomping while smurfing. Most of the games I would like help on are these kinds where nothing is going right and we're getting stomped. So how to win despite that is extremely useful

[@Green13Gaming]

I gotta say as support right now the not dying thing is difficult, because every other patch before said who cares if you die you are the support, but now it's every death no matter what role matters because it gives so much gold my issue right now is simply getting out of the mindset of it's fine if I die, I'm pos 5

[@Green13Gaming]

although sometimes it is still fine

[@phunweng962]

it is fine, but make killing you take a lot of effort.

[@adpop750]

If you play like this in actual 1.5k ranked, you get 4 reports. Next match that will happen again and the match after that too. After some time MM will make sure you wil only get animals as teammates.

[@deinmiltrochivasky7103]

Skill issue

[@daevo4905]

u won't need to because you don't keep getting 2500 mmr players vs 1500mmr teammates. so you can relax and blame being hardstuck on other things :)

[@adpop750]

@@deinmiltrochivasky7103 Absolutely a skill issue. If you are skilled as 4k, 5k, or even 9k you will just will win anyway despite having animals as teammates. But if your 2k skilled player, you will not be able to and you will stay at 1.5k or even go down.

[@ginnoji.]

In sea if you farm as 3 at 20 min your cores will delete their items and run at enemy!!!

[@nonocheng3043]

BSJ you know you can draw aggro by a clicking on the hero profile at the top if you have vision of them

[@murraymcgregor7829]

so you A click their portrait?

[@Jebu911]

never thought of that actually and ive been playing for over a decade. Usually i just quickly click on a dude thats showing on another lane especially when im playing axe.

[@ToxylTV]

AY YO 46:30 THAT WAS INSANE MAN. I love these videos, learning a lot.

[@PrivilegeYT]

49:00 game ending DD rune

[@MrPian0Mann]

ehh lc was dead regardless, DD came at the right time though

[@Nostrum19]

thumbnail be like "where's my banana"

[@lassejuha7194]

Guys im no smurf but one way or an advance and semi unknown way to drag creep aggro is just by A-left click the hero portrait on the top side of the screen on any hero that you have vision of. That way you dont have to move you vision to idk jungle or midlane and you can jusf keep camera on your hero.

[@leonardoandreae6143]

This video was exceptional! Keep it up BSJ!

[@lukeskywalker6641]

Every single game I get 5 smurfs on enemy team

[@arscissus1580]

Close game. Was fun to watch.

[@MrPian0Mann]

wew that manta before LC dueled you, we had the same reaction going 'wewwwwwwww'

[@husseinhachouche9135]

The come back is real

[@Tonydota2]

legion threw at 47-48 minutes, not fighting or picking duel target. Basically letting ursa die

[@jojo.s]

can someone guide me how exactly was BSJ prepared to avoid this duel at 46:29 ? Because he used manta before LC even showed up on screen and it was only a millisecond that she came on the minimap. So my guess is that he was expecting it, and ALREADY had both his eyes on the minimap and his hand on the hotkey for diffusal?

[@YungBapacito]

you start to get a gamesense of where the enemy is or "should be". hes probably watching his hero closely and seeing any slight change, has his manta ready to go. he 100% expected to get ganked

[@DarkRahl69]

All heros were missing, he showed on the map the furthest down a lane, so he was the clear gank target, therefore he was just hitting creep wave, manta and out, just synced up with the blink in by LC because LC was even closer than expected, imo

[@jojo.s]

@@DarkRahl69 yes I was thinking that maybe it was a preemptive manta but I just thought why a preemptive manta and not straight silver edge. So I guess it was to escape and have the illusions push the lane as well

[@rinserofwinds]

@@jojo.s nah, i think it was reaction to minimap. he did not push lanes with illusions during the rest of the game. magnus is no medusa, manta was there as reaction to lc and stat item, that provides dispel, not to push lanes with illusions.

[@TheNeXuS131313]

You are really helping with Late Game Confusion

[@internerperson23473]

OMG what a comeback, BSJ is my religion

[@Sharpov1997]

All hail our lord and saviour BSJ

[@gihirons1]

This kind of video is really cool. Im learning a lot with you. Thanks

[@jasonevans2178]

I too am a universal hero enjoyer.

[@MrCokewithice]

oh man they banned my windranger, thats okay i'll just pick any other busted universal hero lul

[@jasonevans2178]

So true... No windranger, go Mag. No Mag, go Void Spirit. No Void Spirit, go Marci...

[@Shin-iv6yc]

Do I get some of her mechanics wrong or isnt Aeon Disk on Legion Commander a insanely stupid pick? Cuz it could prevent her of winning a duel. Not to mention that there're so many other items she would need instead.

[@Rasea611]

Yeah, not sure why she bought it. Magnus was clearly the biggest worry, even once AM got farmed. She needed Blademail in order to deal enough damage to him during Duel and to deal with his Satanic. Maybe, at some point, they decided that they needed to instead be more tanky than damage and rely more on Ursa carrying.

[@forbiddenDRAIN]

this AM was so tilted you can tell lol

[@elciddoto]

Best educational series

[@hey_how_are_ya]

What an incredible game

[@j0nasbs]

Mag with casual the 800 damage while building mostly stats. :D

[@oliveranderson7962]

what the hell did I just watch!? nicely played omg

[@Azzurite]

This was such a good game

[@aminferdowsi9971]

this one was much better,make the rest of the smurf series more like this,more MMR adv for enemy team for better balance expriance

[@emmanuelwilliamquinton9152]

I would love to have a music change after mega too.

[@buddy4768]

the fucking music let's good

[@Heatedchaos117]

Great comeback

[@drhughied]

Satanic felt underused. Perhaps an AC would have been better (it'd mitigate a lot of damage for you and your team while giving more AS and lowering their defences). Otherwise solid map movement and item choices.

[@bramhell1]

Now this was entertaining

[@carriedmoreanimals]

Why not halberd vs legion ursa

[@MolonyProductions]

How long does it take 3 waves of megas to destroy a completely full throne to zero? If I knew that much I'd be able to estimate

[@hassanzahoor6556]

Ursa was clearly not just 2.5k

[@SuperrrSid]

I can tell he has quick cast at least on Skewer. Nice! I'm beginning to use quick cast now.

[@gorancavar6636]

quickcast is such a great quality of life option. you certainly trade a bit of precision but it makes the game so much easier

[@parham1023]

​@Goran Cavar depends on the hero, and the person. I use quick cast for arc and meepo, but not for other heroes.

[@Alttoviulu92]

Halberd being not an item on high rank minds it seems. Have to start playing high physical melees just for that

[@EldritchBladesgaming]

Hard to beat a late game AM

[@rightclick5729]

How did you perfectly time the manta against duel at 46 mins

[@lukupaolo85]

Yep , thats what i feel when im smurfing with my friends , the guardians , crusaders and even archon ..they dont know the crucial objectives ...they dont know what the meaning of "reset" ..they dont know when the enemy stomped us so hard ...the enemy team are in advantages ...while my teammates always blame me for my "reset" , "play safe" , "no need to rush" ...its funny when u r a divine player ...but the bunch of guardog friends cant listen u

[@HuffmanSam]

How come creeps are hitting backdoor protection in the thumbnail? 🤔wouldn't the presence of creeps preclude the possibility of backdoor protection?

[@lem0321]

0:48 2k mmr diff

[@rodineiavion1734]

45:00 actually think you guys commite a mistake not getting mega on mid, you not force buyback because throne rush, just bc they commite another mistake not insta bb after lc die, due to facility to end game after mega on mid

[@hlibizi2612]

insane one

[@WoobertAIO]

Absolutely deranged gameplay from BSJ and Co.

[@1samsnow1]

that was really cool

[@ikirachen]

when i reach 2k mmr will join there

[@Andrew-yq9ic]

What was that Abaddon doing bro...

[@airbornesnow4541]

It’s 1.5k MMR lol don’t blame him

[@AuraXars]

50:14 didn't you lose a QoP game in the old smurf series?

[@lxrd5238]

except that was ranked

[@oddmunch2643]

I was nervous for him 🎉🎉🎉 wd!

[@nicocastillo2099]

That Manta dodge for the Duel was insane! kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGSmf5SuptF_jqM

[@Glories333]

Hey bsj, great as usual

[@Tortellini-kf3ru]

use pig pole for your farming patterns

[@arisgangsta44]

did 59 dogs pulled your hair? rofl

[@cornedenecker1636]

How do you pull creep agro like that with an enemy hero

[@damonruetama8126]

You are awesome! 👌

[@fuzbukhari]

whats the music pack bsj is using?

[@krisarsov76]

24:40 you respawn 3 seconds before AM and if that was me i would've wait 2 seconds give him Empower than skewer to farm ... idk why you didn't do that...it is like playing with my friends...i have to tell them every time to give me empower , they never do... That ninja neutral item... i didnt see you use it once...

[@tarunmascarenhas3141]

is the average taken including bsj or is it of the other 4 team mates

[@airbornesnow4541]

It’s just the 4 other teammates. BSJ alone is 9k mmr lol

[@nltiro3387]

Offlane = batrider/axe/magnus/timbersaw Universal ancient stack farmer

[@mikailkreuzer1202]

Holy shit epic game 😂

[@itstomis]

Great game. Insane that for a 9k player, they still have hard-to-break muscle memory (in this case str treads) for a hero they dont even play. If anything I default to agi tread farming on str heroes by accident.

[@arielperez3434]

I'm actually surprised about this. Even on Str heroes, once you do enough dmg agi treads' attack speed should be better than the damage.

[@cadaruz8769]

Why does he drop items and pick them back up?

[@munteanualexandru9173]

how is this best educational when he picked pos 3 and farmed all game

[@markperalta4831]

Hype as usual

[@sumfitguy451]

What music pack is this

[@nepri_dymal]

What is his music pack yall? It slaps

[@bgrtlyrics151]

best game ever

[@bobo0100]

next time 1k difference where their mmr's arent this low. like 3k vs 4k

[@gabrielabiak6225]

10 minutes into the game and you have 230 damage. Isn't that OP? You have good early farm though...

[@Sushii132]

pls show pos 5 in high bracket

[@joshualaster9779]

Cant wait until universal heroes are nerfed...😊

[@TokiSamurai]

Does it count if he uses voice

[@davidschneide5422]

Me want cookie yum.

[@Valkorn367]

I was wondering, is Dota Plus assistant worth it when it comes to itemization, picking heroes, leveling abilities etc?

[@mdlsvensson]

Very much not. It’s very very bad

[@msgdeletdbymod4471]

the only useful thing is that it shows you the % of damage magic / pure / physical done to you so you can better itemize against the enemies but you can also see this in the death sunmary it just takes longer to read

[@zanido9073]

16:30 I don't believe that. If you afk farm in 5k+ while your team gets run over, the enemy will just group and take all your towers.

[@sh3nnanigans79]

I think disperser would have been the item to buy for dispel. Gives stats and damage. Plus ursa has a small mana pool already with am as well. Not to mention being unslowable against 4 heroes with slows.

[@juliusrendon5936]

nah

[@YoutubesaysimCyberbully]

such a clickbait cmon i thought throne at least'd be as low hp as preview...

[@mikeilagan6487]

Such a click bait thumbnail 😂 excellent gameplay

[@hmallard173]

ok bsj

[@ashemrus]

What more can we ask for? Well, here we go: Minimal option: Equal teams in MMR. So now you have 1500*4+12000=18000MMR on your side and 5*2500=12500 MMR on the other side. Trust me, any of your subscribers can win game with such big difference in MMR. So if you have 1500 MMR players on your side, then other side should have average of 18000/5=3600 MMR Typical option: Minimal option (above) + your allies are typical low elo players - 4 carry picks, double mid, if you go side way and take any creep or let your lanemate die he starts whining and feeding on purpose. Also you can't communicate and have to play from different acc so they wouldn't know you are smurf and not someone else. Whiny option aka option people whine about: Typical option (above) + enemy team is a premade of smurfs with 7k MMR each. Now those would be fun games to watch

[@giovannilemuel6911]

niceeee

[@Jamal20910]

pango game pls

[@Youmu_Konpaku_]

Wierd game, but farm to victory as always

[@lul5592]

😮

[@YoutubesaysimCyberbully]

10 guys fully commited to play dota , dont think ive seen a single chat message or anything , theyre like robots , thats so fuckin creepy

[@DanKaschel]

Nope, just one blind viewer. There were chat messages.

[@YoutubesaysimCyberbully]

@@DanKaschel doesnt matter , it didnt feel like i watched an avg pub game

[@spysideways7824]

Ursa is rt

[@kylestertz261]

I wish you and only you could do pub smurfing. id like to see the BSJ climb from herald to Immortal. I would approve. I need to see someone climb from 0 to 5k on video.