Edward Snowden: The Contractor

Edward Snowden’s activities beginning in June of 2013 are very well known-from the first leak of classified information to his stay in Russia. But his motivations, the system vulnerabilities that enabled him to access highly classified information, and his stated goals are continuing points of heated discussion.
Hailed as a hero or decried as a traitor, his actions have reopened the issue of privacy for people and for nations. Dr. Mary Manjikian, Associate Dean of the Robertson School of Government, Regent University, and author of Threat Talk: The Comparative Politics of Internet Addiction will reveal how her research into organizations offers a new way of looking at Snowden and all those leakers/whistleblowers/heroes/ traitors who came before.
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[@MgtowRubicon]

"Sometimes, one must betray their government to save their country." - John le Carré

[@joachim5080]

I doubt that this includes being a kreml propaganda mascot … he’s rather the same type of fool as lee oswald

[@carolynfogel6546]

Now that is saying something.

[@faustinae3927]

Betrayal or exposing 😉🫣🇺🇸

[@tatianalyulkin410]

Your bloody arrogance truly never ceases to amaze me. Considering you know bubkes about Russia, Ukraine or even the CIA. If I ask you who Jonna Mendez or Jason Hanson are would you be able to answer me? Why do you assume that we NEED the Russian propaganda to come to our conclusions? Why such disdain for the intellectual prowess of the people you don't even know? I don't " steal " ideas from my friends or my enemies- they " steal " the ideas from me. What the hell were you doing during your 4 or 6 years in college if you don't see that say yours truly and Oleg Tsarev can come to the same conclusions quite independently of each other? " Studying " basketweaving and your proper personal pronouns? Your " argument " that everyone who dares to disagree with the Blake Association ( I almost wrote " assassination "- but I can be forgiven, I am a Tsareva after all ) is shilling for or somehow connected with Putin and the FSB is not even " Junior High ". It's kindergarten.

[@twosongs7396]

When did it become a crime to tell the Truth? Specifically when it’s telling the Truth on crimes being committed?

[@tatianalyulkin410]

From the moment America got into bed with the Blake Association.

[@VerticalMulchOfAMan]

Smart lady whose voice is like an icepick

[@ilikethisnamebetter]

This woman has really perfected the art of talking without saying anything.

[@davidcorner4507]

Yeez, you could not have said it better. Does she or anybody in the audience can actually extract anything of value from her endless stream of jibberish?

[@filianablanxart8305]

( As semantic exactitude , Capital T Treason is defined narrowly in the Constitution . Lower t treason usually involves various statutes regarding handling and disclosure of Classified Information , and espionage outside of the Constitutional definition .) But looking beyond Snowden specifically , she does present several different perspectives . Taking them in total would be way over the top , but broken down , some of them are useful generally . The wholesale shift from exclusively Career Employees to large numbers of Contractors is a big thing . Less institutional loyalty to specific agencies and missions. More frequent turnover , which is a factor in both more required vetting , with finite resources for background investigations . As noted , it's not sustainable to spend 1-2yrs doing investigations on contractors filling a 2-3yr contract . And Millennials are different than previous generations . If nothing else , they have been brainwashed their entire education that rather than the US being a positive force in the world , we are at best routinely venal and self- interested , and at worst actively evil .

[@99gypsies]

@@davidcorner4507 I think her main point was: "If you don't want your employees to tell the world that you are illegally spying on everyone, you should do a better a job of illegally spying on them before you hire them."

[@bravofighter]

99gypsies Yeah, that’s the long and short of it. I have family in that same line of work, and the mental gymnastics they go through to justify his would-be prosecution...they could try him in absentia, but haven’t because they can’t make it stick because he didn’t actually commit treason...are laughable. I come back to the fact that he had discovered that the federal government was illegally spying on the American people and then sifting that data for intelligence that might be useful. Well, clearly, the federal government has ZERO control over the CIA and in point of fact, it’s quite the opposite. I submit to everyone that it’s highly likely that this program is building dossiers on everyone that would come against it. Congressmen? Senators? Hacktivists? Journalists trying to expose it?

[@baobo67]

Agree. If you close your eyes you could be in a supermarket que.

[@twosongs7396]

Treason is NOT Snowden’s “crime” now, “is it, REALLY?”

[@flymarkfly]

90% of this video has nothing to due with Snowden. The title is misleading. Listening to the squeaky voice of the presenter for an hour rambling about nothing and hoping to hear about Snowden was extremely painful. Don't waste your time on this video.

[@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633]

to do

[@tonygibbs9339]

but within a series about "Whistleblowers, Leakers or Traitors?" then I think that it is in context.

[@Ticklestein]

37:01 - She’s the one that’s confused on what can and what can’t be classified. Waterboarding is a criminal act, the law says criminal acts like that cannot be classified.

[@tomg5187]

Thank you!

[@baobo67]

Disappointed in this talk and did not get a lot out of it unfortunately. Not up to the usual high standard of the ISM productions.Cheers.

[@a1diemus]

Too bad she didn't explain why hong Kong. Such a disappointing presentation!!!!

[@granskare]

I believe he worked for the same group that was never investigated. I was a very low level helper in the USAF in Turkey in the late 1950s.

[@louisvarre2197]

Do you think the ‘Feds’ will forward Snowden’s $1200 stimulus check to his Russian address? 🤣🤣🤣

[@Davidka1978Xoroshiy]

Omg. True.

[@michaelfuchs1467]

I would volunteer to bring it to him in person... Plus a well aimed 'bonus'.

[@MrOccamsChainsaw]

We're not progressing to the point of *no* anonymity online, but rather a point where anonymity becomes the express burden of end-users.

[@rexcorso7122]

Very humbling, very cool!

[@PaulHenning84]

The first questioner asked what Snowdens clearance was and the speaker didn't know. I do. It's a Top Secret - Sensitive Compartmentalized Information clearance. It's one of the two known "above top secret" clearances. The other being ECI which we only learned about a few year ago and know nothing about. Just an acronym and it's meaning. More here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitive_Compartmented_Information

[@elizabethdiane3679]

They should be thanking him!

[@ninirema4532]

very good lecturing interaction talk programme . All you great gentle🐷🐂🐃🐐🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🌋🏔🌏🌎🏕🏝🌍

[@rebeccamunoz1645]

She stayed in the the meaning/significance...and rolled with it forever

[@kathrynludrick4821]

Great presentation.

[@CJinsoo]

Around 22:00, she comments “at the risk of beating this horse to death”. Really? And then she proceeds to bring out the jack-hammer. This talk sucks!

[@stevelenores5637]

CIA lady is covering the agency's tail for something they shouldn't have done in the first place.

[@towedarray7217]

She did a good job of reading Wikipedia entries in the sing-song tone of Peter’s coworker Nina from Office Space. "Corporate accounts payable, Nina speaking. Just a moment." "Corporate accounts payable, Nina speaking. Just a moment." "Corporate accounts payable, Nina speaking. Just a moment."

[@robbienorton9522]

oh wow that's why her voice was so annoying! Good catch!

[@towedarray7217]

@@robbienorton9522 Hang on a sec... is it the same Woman? kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJSth6qkdryHppI

[@anng.4542]

Judging from many of the comments here, Snowden seems to be a hero to lots of young leftists who wish they could escape to an authoritarian country but aren't impulsive enough to try.

[@kqschwarz]

An important presentation, but VERY difficult to listen to in part due to how the speaker's voice is recorded (clipping and echo artifacts that accentuate the speaker's frequent high-frequency speech peaks). I did get though the whole thing, but boy was it painful. It is worthwhile to take some time to get the recording right so as to accommodate and mitigate the speaker's speech patterns in the best possible way. Using a 32-bit audio recorder and a condenser microphone with pop-shield would be a good first steps. Just my 2 cents. Thank you.

[@toma5153]

Agreed. One of the technical sins of many KZbin channels - crappy audio. I do notice the irony of supposedly technically adept channels or organizations sometimes having the worst audio and visuals for a speaker giving a presentation. Usually, folks are over obsessed about the camera's video resolution, etc. and audio quality is a distant second.

[@sandraward2336]

The lady who kept insisting upon all those definitions hijacked the last 15 minutes of the talk, which I did not appreciate. And people who could not be bothered to ask their questions using the microphone, their questions were lost to us.

[@tatianalyulkin410]

No. Definitely not a traitor.

[@fellowcitizen]

"boundary-violators" like invading Iraq?

[@trissloan2340]

Any gripes you have or people that have gripes that you have, you never put your money where your mouth is. Move to Russia, N. Korea or Cuba and go enjoy their respective gov'ts. You have never sacrificed or put your life on the line for anyone or anything, nor would you.

[@fellowcitizen]

@@trissloan2340 Irrelevant, invading Iraq was an act of terrorism which left ME+US worse off, and destroyed thousands of lives + families in America. I have put my life on the line, and those three countries are not only totally different, but need to be understood in terms of forces they must offset in order to survive.

[@99gypsies]

@@trissloan2340 You know nothing about Fellow Citizen -- argue the points, don't attack the messenger. As a deep-rooted patriot through and through, I protested the so-called "War in Iraq," which was never a war, but an illegal invasion and occupation. It hurt our country. It increased terrorism. It cost US taxpayers 8 trillion dollars . . . it killed millions of people in the Middle East. It destroyed a country that never did us any harm. It destroyed the very oldest civilizations (Mesopotamia) that spawned our own Western and Christian culture. And it was based on a lie. 20 years later, we are still paying the price and Iraq is much worse off than it was before we started. I despise China, North Korea, what has become of Venezuela, Cuba -- but when my country kills millions of innocent people, I am afraid we are acting too much like those totalitarian fascist regimes. WE should be better. Our Founding Fathers were nationalists not warmongers; not imperialists. In America, we are free to disagree with one another. A true American appreciates diversity and respects his neighbor's viewpoints even if they are not his own. We are free --so we do not have to support every decision our government makes and we certainly do not have to support our NSA when they spy on us -- without our permission -- breaking our laws. I believe in our Constitution and I think it is a very grave crime to tread on it. Don't you dare question my patriotism sir.

[@jayvdb]

USA is in an arms race with itself, creating more/bigger problems overseas, selling its old arms to crazies, and creates new arms that it (and its allies) now need, and constantly needing more/deeper spying everywhere to detect threats, and its allies need to accept the spying (and other bad bilateral treaties) to avoid those ever greater threats.

[@icarustheother8591]

Obviously not present but the ironic part is I'm watching this on an electronic device I can't turn it off otherwise I couldn't hear it. LOL moving forward haha

[@LivingDead53]

Schism. It doesn't mean I don't desire it. When communication comes again... we'll just say it. Unless we grow.

[@twosongs7396]

Traitor? For telling on the government’s CRIMES AGAINST THE PEOPLE? Sentenced? Why would he be sentenced? For telling the TRUTH? Why is he being discredited? Could it be to draw the spotlight AWAY from your government’s CRIMES AGAINST THEIR PEOPLE?

[@anng.4542]

Maybe because he just happened to "tell it to" an enemy nation. In other words, acting out a leftist fantasy in a sketchy manner. He decided that he ought to reinvent the rules to suit his own sense of right and wrong.

[@PaulHenning84]

Someone else asked how he as a system administrator got access to these files he couldn't see. The press have said how already, he asked a supervisor for his login credentials and used them. With his position alone he couldn't have read all this.

[@PaulHenning84]

*****​ here's my source mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE9A703020131108

[@turboruk]

+kwnyupstate I guess apple system nor intel has issue to what really matter like a system does ; isn't it? L.A.M.P

[@myriaddsystems]

So where's the part that actually deals with Snowden?

[@CJinsoo]

28;30 Of Strawmen arguments to then knock down when she finally gets to Snowden.....

[@DHorse]

This woman is the traitor. He is the patriot.

[@amylebeau2490]

What???

[@davidbuckby4389]

the whats and why for were does the truth lie?

[@americanpro6980]

Totally enjoyed this woman's presentation, very cool !!!

[@rongrongism]

Despicable, terrible human being, who thinks it's terrible that anyone would want to not be tracked online.

[@jashickey]

LOL... Hero !!

[@tightcamper]

On a general level I do not agree that the UNIX super users or "root" cannot access everything. Only encrypted data is secure.

[@jerzykaltenberg298]

ditto for dba access. What these people don't know about admin access would fill the yankee stadium. As root or sudo root you can own every bit in such a system. /as sysdba or oper you can dump the contents of the schema. As root & sysdba you can own the .dbf or the transaction logs or just log what sql is being thrown. As above, only encrypted data is reasonably safe, and that's only as good as the encryption and key mgmt. ( viz. borrowing your supervisors passwd) The problem lies with non-technical decisionmakers needing a non-technical analogy or executive summary in order to make personnel decisions with very technical consequences. The cusp of technical and old style humint _is_ where the problem happens. Also, ( and I obviously have no experience of the particular US alphabet security environment ) While a field operator / officer can be promoted to manage others ( and from watching these videos, i gather this occasionally happens) thus bringing their ability to judge character & motivation to the org, this very rarely happens in tech organizations. Management is mostly clueless. If they were any good at the tech stuff, they'd never become managers. Furthermore,. when (rarely) a competent technician transitions to managing his erstwhile peers, he quickly becomes useless as an engineer, while maintaining the delusion that he still has his chops. They're the worst. This is a completely different skillset & mindset, and I'd add that engineers / techs will generally treat restrictions placed on their access to what they see as their due, as something to be avoided, elided & worked around. Not out of any contrariness, but because they're a pain in the arse for folks trying yo get their work done & being evaluated on performance, whole being shackled with 'security' measures wholely spurious if you just keep access to critical assets off the fucking internet.

[@patrickwalsh467]

Right? Right? Right?…..

[@icarustheother8591]

So being a traitor and Judas being that trader. I would have to ask you at this point. Somerset B. Says something like. Debate is necessary. Argument is tolerated. However TREASON is the death sentence. I don't believe that to be the exact quote but I think you get the point thanks and tell Jonna Mendez and her old man I said hello world! 🇺🇸🥰🌹💯💯🏁

[@davidking3936]

Alright who sped the audio up on this by 1.5

[@Michelle-tf2td]

i didn't enjoy this speaker

[@carthagedye6291]

This is a very interesting subject. However, this woman is too annoying and rattles on without saying anything

[@notsocrates9529]

"Traitor" HA.

[@tatianalyulkin410]

I'm bored to tears. I'm outta here.

[@eugeneobrien6693]

Very informative.

[@THEtruthISoutTHEREufoOFFICIAL0]

22:58 ''people with sense of dissatisfaction,disillusionment,depression and defeat at losers..'' nope my obese karen friend, its not like this!

[@JeffScottLP]

Her snarky comment about John Kiriakou caused me to shut it off. The amoral midgetry in this is pretty striking.

[@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633]

Absolutely. Kiriakou blew the whistle on torture by the CIA.It is a crime.He ended up in jail for30 months.

[@darleneprice3492]

Can't get past her screeching into the mic.

[@igorzum1925]

it's a debate nothing else

[@michaelmazowiecki9195]

Comrade Snowden now openly one of Putin's trolls.

[@anng.4542]

I think he's now a naturalized Russian citizen?

[@LivingDead53]

Dominated by the pure. Yes, that's annoying. I'm split from my desire, or I was before brain soup.

[@THEtruthISoutTHEREufoOFFICIAL0]

MEATBALL!!!!!!

[@awblenderpersonalprojects]

I'm 36 mins in and can't watch any more of this. Treason is the highest of high crimes. It's not ethical or moral deviance. It's a crime that gets service men and women killed. It isn't "the normal kind of betrayal", it's the most severe kind. Anyone who does this knows precisely what they're doing. Why would you let this woman speak at your museum? Shrill and disingenuous. Better vetting next time please.

[@DHorse]

What is the current half-life of secrets in 2020?

[@DHorse]

I guess she hasn't that the liberal arts have been eliminated in US universities. Where's the profit.

[@DHorse]

9:20 Again? A crime of disloyalty? How Orwellian we are.

[@DHorse]

10:00 This is just bizzare. In a list of 10 items only two are actual crimes. The rest? Thought crimes?

[@DHorse]

10:25 Good lord we have more Jesus, Hell and Judas. Weird.

[@MrSdoubtfire975]

Snowden is a true hero.

[@lovelight9261]

Would these apply to Donald J. Trump? Seems like it. He always thinks he needs money. He has always been a malcontent.

[@h.766]

They shouldn't had Q&A sections. Great lecture. But horrible Q&A section.

[@marciareeves2179]

I wonder if we would have heard this lady had Ed Snowden not done something. No doubt she would have found another dead horse's coattails to jump on. I would like to hear about her profile. Why is she so angry and upset if he is nothing as she is trying to have us believe? What did he do to her? Has she written any books?

[@FreeThinking999]

Question. How many hundreds of times did this person say aah or um during her talk.

[@paulmanoli5175]

Did Snowden's father own , work or associated with Zebra Technologies ?

[@FreeThinking999]

aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah aaah and aaah and aah ah ah. Good basic aah speaking skills.

[@oceanspat]

Verbal Crap is the only description I have for her

[@DeathDad]

Perhaps we can beam her voice and lecture on tapped phone lines as an oversignal to lull enemies from listening. But it might be considered a war crime?

[@MaryMacElveen]

I'm not impressed by this speaker. Don't go into the psychology so much. Speak of his actions.

[@LivingDead53]

If you were nice to me for thirty seconds back then, I would love you to death. You're my new best friend.

[@philipcobbin3172]

A bit of a click bait headline. Sure weren't your best content.

[@AishaA-su4hg]

someone who wants to make a change or contribute to "leveling the playing field " is considered "Narcissistic?" Lol

[@igorzum1925]

+aisha a you're so right too many labels too little work

[@AishaA-su4hg]

Igor Zum​ 😈👍

[@trissloan2340]

"Leveling the playing field??????😵😵😵😵😵Your mind cannot comprehend what is at stake. You never served or could attain a high level security clearance. You are clueless and aimless; driftwood washed upon the shore.

[@trissloan2340]

@@igorzum1925 Shit, you are as clueless as she is. Did you investigate the Jon Benet Ramsey case???

[@parrotraiser6541]

Taking State Department information home and putting it on your private server? Who could she be talking about? What is the situation if the organisation itself is "deviant", operating illegally, or in opposition to its supposed purpose?

[@rauldempaire5330]

Hillar.......

[@alswann2702]

Lotsa whiney wannabe traitors commenting here.

[@jerzykaltenberg298]

it's the russian cheering section. "Sekcja specjalna zawsze lojalna"

[@Katmandu29]

Bless Edward Snowden ❤

[@timeWaster76]

Hell NO!

[@waynethorpe9384]

Blah blah blah and this woman doss not take a breath for an hour and says nothing of value

[@robertsmuggles6871]

Embarrassing lecture. They need to take this down from youtube. The speaker is an academic windbag with no speaking skills. The talk has no structure, no purpose, nothing you can take away. It doesn't go anywhere. She fails to explore the concept of betrayal - especially the betrayal of an idea - once you believed in 'the agency', 'the truth' etc - now you are loyal to a different idea - money, the excitement of doing something forbidden etc etc I was surprised she wasn't heckled - I guess everyone was asleep in the end.

[@robertbrown4872]

You don't like women very much, do you?

[@robertsmuggles6871]

you must be kidding - some of the best speakers at the spy museum are female agency people who plug away at something for years. Sandra Grimes on Aldrich Ames for example. Compared to stuff like that - the Manjikian lecture is just painful.

[@towedarray7217]

Robert Brown it doesn’t have anything to do with that. She read from Wikipedia and used google images to phone-in her lecture. Then delivered it like it was a mind-blowing presentation. Her gender has absolutely nothing to do with it.

[@pjpredhomme7699]

obviously you are not alone - a lot of negative comments , i get where that is coming from - aside from the style -she is putting presenting some well considered ideas. at least as counterintelligence is concerned . She is saying a lot of the assumptions about people who will engage in espionage have not changed to the modern work paradigm that is built around computer / networking . she has some very good points certainly the title does not fit , she is not a very skilled , dynamic speaker - that doesn't mean what she is saying is not very thoughtful and well considered . What is funny to me is some of the points that i have seen people make on this board are actually confirming the point she is making

[@erpthompsonqueen9130]

This presentation is not up to the standards I have usually seen here.

[@luligi7177]

the most boring speech ever

[@alexomar7464]

Edward Snowden - The Teacher, the guide from Darkness to Light. God Bless him.

[@eyeservantez]

Let’s put a liar on the podium to tell the truth.

[@Piotrek1985]

Out of all the presentations I’ve watched so far that one is the most annoying…

[@sherylnelson6094]

What kind of name is Manijikian? She must be some kind of foreign spy. The kind in cahoots with our own spy grid.

[@sherylnelson6094]

After watching this piece from IntlSpyMuseum, I can't even so much as risk stomaching one more of their pieces let alone get on their Facebook. We must part ways after this one brief unpleasant encounter!

[@trissloan2340]

That is your privilege. You will miss the excellent lectures.

[@andrews527]

Empty procedural stuff with relation to Snowden only tangential and suppositional. Really any point in calling him a narcissist?

[@StorytellingHeadshots]

FYI: Titled “Edward Snowden” Video: Literally, not about Edward Snowden

[@juusohamalainen7507]

Terrible voice this woman has and the content of her story is BS. Snowden is a hero above any other. He fights against criminal government activity. Doing this is always legal.

[@CJinsoo]

18 minutes in and still just annoying platitudes. Terrible talk so far, hopefully it improves. But you should at least skip the first 20 minutes.

[@00000000000101010]

This woman is betraying the ideals of her country, I wonder if there a special ring of hell for that?

[@LivingDead53]

You're going to have to deal with us who have liberal degrees/classes. Not only was I not raised to be loyal to the US, I was told how horrible it was, like the stuff they did. I hate myself. I liked the way the Russians worked together and how they had such a love for their nation, which is something I could not even feel now. I'm kind of stupid (no offense to myself). However, I did not deserve all the attention from Putin, nor your selfie culture of spies whose eyes burn against me. I'm damaged goods, and I want a nice life on Hideaway street with the five million dollars (after taxes). I know I was wrong, and I'm sorry (as I can be). I still, again, did not deserve all of that.

[@tomg5187]

Kaela Creighton I don’t get it, are you saying you’re Edward snowden lol

[@ArtLoopED]

Terrible speaker. Got me angry as soon as 30 seconds in. Her screeching voice doesn't help.

[@ramiali9593]

The only good thing about her is how hot she was in the 80s

[@faustinae3927]

She seems to know nothing about Snowden 😉🙄😎🫤.

[@dexterdextrow7248]

Lol wtf is this? Moral philosophy? I was hoping for something of substance.

[@LivingDead53]

Snowden has a God-complex. He's speshal like a snowflake and a hero, thinks he's special when just speshal.

[@MgtowRubicon]

"When exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, you are being ruled by criminals!" - Edward Snowden

[@TheScottEF]

If that's all that Snowden had done, he would be a worthy individual. What no one has ever justified is why he [1] never tried to go through established channels within the US (his statements to the contrary have always been denied by the folks he cites, and he never provided any evidence of attempting such); [2] needed to expose & endanger the lives of US intelligence assets in Hong Kong, China and threats from al Qaeda, Iran, North Korea, etc.; and [3] never made any attempt to cull information exposing domestic surveillance programs from legitimate foreign intelligence programs and methods. Look at the country he now calls home: the world's first major criminal state. That speaks volumes about the man.