I Bought the Cheapest Flying Surf Board on the Internet

When I first found out about E Foiling I quickly realized the boards cost a small fortune so I decided to buy the cheapest electric E Foil , (flying motorized surfboard) on the Internet and put it to the test! 
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[@EdwinOlding]

New video testing THE BEST flying surfboard on the internet kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpnFZ4adaap9fdU

[@jdmbandarelos1310]

Giving it a Chrom painting would make you to the silver surfer on water :D:D

[@user-oe1mb9hu9i]

where the mast attaches to the board sticks out .... "losing quite a bit of efficiency". Not so. That part of the board isn't in the water.

[@clayisland]

Glad to hear you are stoked on foiling. I've heard from friends that their "cheap" efoil ends up being junk. Then they buy the reputable brand and are super stoked on the quality. A way to save money is to build one diy with quality components. There is an e-foil forum of homebuilders. Friends tell me diy is about 1/3 the cost of retail.

[@gerritraupach9059]

Great, but I'm retail much to expansive..do you have the name of the DIY forum? Thanks, Gerrit

[@WhiteSliceMedia]

Hello mate, It looks like you might've put the bolts and nuts connecting the foil to the board upside down! I've never rigged an efoil but I do a lot of other foil sports. We use the same bolt-and-nut track setup to attach the foil to the board. You're supposed to put the nuts into the track, and then bolt through the foil into them. This allows to forwards and backwards movement of the foil to control lift and it's really easy to do.

[@nirodper]

But the nuts are heaxagonal and the bolts have a square head that goes in the rail, I don't see how it can be upside down

[@krazed0451]

@@nirodper If it's the right sized hex it will still run in the slot on 2 of the 6 sides.

[@northernadventurer160]

It's possible it was designed upside down?

[@demetri1651]

@@nirodper 😂😂😂😂

[@hale2thed]

I looked at that and thought the same thing.

[@gideonking3667]

I tried e-foiling but ended up going with wing foiling instead - much cheaper to get into and lower ongoing costs, and IMHO it's more fun using the wind to power you

[@sammadison1172]

I would try efoiling but throwing on flip flops and cruising around town on my new triumph t120 reminded me of what 12k should get you

[@OldmanCrypto100]

its not a poor mans sport@@sammadison1172

[@chancemccool]

Great video Edwin! Congrats on jumping in. I bought a Fliteboard 2 years ago and I love it. No regrets. I sprung for a second battery right away so I can stay out for 3-4 hours. Also have made lots of vids if anyone wants a pilot perspective. Start up cost is high but it's about value and I love this ride more than any boat or motorcycle that I have owned. Waterproof jawbone headphones top off the experience.

[@stokedforsuccess100]

Very nice video. Stoked you took the plunge. I did the same thing myself about 3 years ago.. and I’ve been addicted to e-foiling, and other types of foiling, ever since. It is an AMAZING sport.

[@zero00tolerance]

Hey just wondering which one do you have ? where to buy please ?

[@stokedforsuccess100]

@@zero00tolerance I’m riding the 4’9 lift v3 efoil. However, I started on the waydoo.

[@Mikefestiva]

That’s awesome! I’m glad you took a gamble and got one that works good for you. 45 minutes isn’t that bad, definitely longer battery life then I would have thought. Thanks for sharing your experience with us 😊👍

[@Brian2124]

This is just awesome. Glad you followed "the bug" and found a way to make it happen. Enjoyed this video; discovering new sports is one of life's pure joys. Thanks again.

[@livinginmiamianthonyspitaleri]

Great vid, Edwin. Fliteboard and Lift you get support as well as other features. My Fliteboard mast didn't seat correctly and they replaced it for me same day. The largest battery they produce lasts about 2.5 hours and you're right, when you are getting into it 30-40 minutes is all you need! Have you considered taking off the prop guard?

[@alexander2576]

Thank you for sharing your experience! Very inspiring! ❤

[@BurtReynoldstash]

You should try wing foiling, same deal but with a wing. No batteries, not a lot of wind needed to get going

[@SwagMaster-fq8qg]

Yeah but 100x harder lol

[@anthonynapoli9253]

You guys have the literally the most chill background music it's so nostalgic for me after the years

[@user-wj9xl8bp4n]

I just saw this in a different video so I googled what is it. You've done an excellent job explaining everything, thanks

[@drewfisher4413]

The fact that you could stand up, let and get off the water on your first session is very impressive.

[@OldmanCrypto100]

he said it took a few sessions before he was able to use his go pro

[@wel0ud996]

This was the best review of any efoil thats out there! Hope youll make a lot of money on this vid so you can test a high end Efoil!

[@ONYXRCR73]

You are making this look so much easier than it is. Nice Job man wow, your rocking it. I tried for 5 hours and suck bad. Grats man !

[@retrophonicbotique]

It is easy

[@jollyjellyfish1688]

I think I might know why the shipping took so long-if you bought it in 2022, China was having some unexpected hardcore lockdown then, due to Covid. People were grounded at home from 2 weeks to 2 months randomly, depend on where they were at that time. Maybe that’s reason why it took so many months for them to get to you. No one can go to the factory to made them at all. And even the Efoil was already sitting in warehouse, it couldn’t just jump out the shelf and packed itself up and even it can, the delivery people were forbidden to leave their home as well😂 So maybe the shipping will be faster now, idk

[@camdynkellett6782]

Such a cool video dude! You captured your progression really well and nice to see your reasons for buying this one in particular haha. I recognised the lake there and Iv'e had the chance to kiteboard there during a crazy storm while I was traveling in the USA two years ago! Once you get the hand of Efoiling a bit, you should definitely try Wingfoiling! Its very similar but completely silent, which is so peaceful and still lets you get out onto the water when it's too windy to Efoil! I've got a friend who lives by the lake who would be stoked to get you going on the wing! Greetings from South Africa.

[@kathypardun7543]

Love your videos, man keep it up.

[@jimmymcjimjim5610]

It’s good to hear your opinion bro, I’ve not tried yet but wondered if it would become my favorite thing too. Cost is gnarly, but also too many options - don’t want to get the wrong setup. Great vid thanks

[@NatGreenOnline]

Those look super cool. I first tried using an Air Chair behind a boat like 25'ish years ago and I remember how much of a trip it was learning to glide out of the water. Leaning forward shot your back and vice versa but when you could control the hover it was so smooth and effortless so I could see how much fun riding one of these would be. Definitely want to get one as I can afford it.

[@iainfindlay8628]

Great video. Very impressive improvising to get on board video. I saw one of these for the first time like 4 yrs ago on the Amalfi coast and was just like WHAT??? So cool...

[@zippythinginvention]

Back when the Hacksmith made a motorized surf board, I commented that they should make one of these. Imagine my surprise when he personally replied to tell me it was impossible‽

[@jiml4987]

I bought a board and went the DIY route right after they did that video. 13k sounds like a lot, the battery sells for 5k. You can build a pack for a lot less and use your own connectors. I professionally void warranties, I did not care about that.

[@timt1346]

I think form a product repeatability, reliability, and overall quality stand point, the reason you pay "more" for a product is the higher chance of it working. Not just out of the gates, but several years down the road. R&D burns through some capital and has to be be recouped along with a profit. I think eventually COTS stuff will allow for more mixing and matching and overall prices will come down through life cycle improvements. But we're still talking about a what? 2-4 year old industry in 2023? Add to it the competition for batteries means its likely more than a decade away before a sub $5k-$8k system will be possible.

[@GrindHardPlumbingCo]

Woah how long ago was that?

[@zippythinginvention]

@@GrindHardPlumbingCo two years ago. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGqvhIt5ZadpZ9U

[@SueBrady-li7tt]

@@timt1346 and you completely missed the point of DIY. If you need a safety net of warranty, comfort, and reliability then go pay a premium.

[@krispewkrem3]

I foil surf every day and it is by far the most difficult yet rewarding sport I have ever done. It will often take MONTHS before you can consistently ride wave and often times even more time before you can pump and connect waves. The coolest thing is simply the potential. Guys are using them to ride wind swell from one Hawaiian island to the next. They are using bungees to tie to a bridge and foil in a river. There is guys using them in pools and lazy rivers. They can be used at Teahupoo in huuuuge swells and ride it a solid minute before a surf could even tow-in or paddle for it. It’s the best invention within the past century, in my eyes. Fun fact: the Navy actually had the fastest ship ever and it used hydrofoils. It was too costly and had no real use, but it reached speeds no other ship has.

[@messybench]

Dude! Great post. I can't believe you can get in that water without a hood! I get brain freeze. Thanks for bringing this sport forward.

[@braws]

So happy to find out you have a personal channel, shout out ghpc

[@S.V.TeFiti]

thanks for the review...

[@charlesw.3245]

I'm sure with an example on hand, the GHP crew could re-engineer the design to make better, faster, more user friendly to repair one. It would make a good series, with plenty of room for colabs.

[@AkSeapilot]

Cool Video.. love that you are enjoying foiling. I have been learning to wing since 2019 fall.. so really since 2020 since i only got a few days in. If you live near a windy area you should look into that as well.. like a trip to the columbia river gorge. Might change your life.

[@JMGENTERPRISES]

Great video! Thanks!

[@johnmacmillan627]

Great info. Thx!

[@odieostrich7718]

good on you for rolling the dice. Looks a touch under-powered off the plane, which is not surprising. However, assessing the water inside the controller compartment is worth a look for reducing weight. While it might be there for 'cooling,' doesn't it just drain out once you're up on the foil? Because if so, you may not need it so could drop serious weight by sealing the compartment. I know, everyone's an expert, but worth a look...🤙

[@jkenney5190]

Heard your comment that efoiling is your favorite thing to do! Try snow biking! I have been snowboarding for 20 years but started Snow Bike 5 years ago and it is amazing. Next is efoiling for me.

[@paddleboarddog]

Great production quality on this. Around how much volume does the board have as it has to compensate for that heavy battery and such?

[@Stanton_High]

Danm it dude. I'm looking at getting into foiling as well and now I see someone I trust talking about it, I HAVE TO! I'm hesitant on the efoil, that's alot of money. I'm looking at surf and sail setup since I'm on the coast and all the locals use sails.

[@hackjealousy]

I’ll include a link to your channel when I buy my board. I wasn’t going to get one, but now I have to. You bastard. ;)

[@surfn-]

I've been kite foiling for a few years now. It's wicked difficult to learn, but so gratifying when you're ripping around & carving. My recommendation is you need to progress to wing foiling if foiling is your jam. E-foiling is just a no wind solution to the sport in general.

[@ottobass4860]

What he said. I prefer kite foiling as gear is much lighter and you can foil in less wind

[@kippywylie]

​@@ottobass4860 Same. Been kitefoiling for 8 years and decided to purchase a Lift efoil last year for no wind days. Fun for a few months but now I'll sell it as it's feeling boring. Maybe if I lived in a place with predictable daily swell I'd enjoy it more, but flat water riding get dull quickly

[@jasonq111]

Thx for the video, Edwin. I’m def doing this after watching u but I’ll get a Lift bc, well, I can afford it. Looks sick!

[@BradleyJH]

This is exactly the sport I’m looking for. Great video. New sub

[@Fluterra]

Let me get this straight: you spent nearly $5000 for a no name board, after waiting months and spending lots of time validating and finding suppliers? Had you spent $10,000 for a brand new Fliteboard, you could have sold it for $8000-9000 if you needed to. This Chinese copy, in addition to being dangerous, is now nearly worthless. You could have also bought a well used Fliteboard or Lift for about $5000. And this would not have depreciated at all. At least this video is very helpful - hopefully to others!

[@shable1436]

Yes exactly 😂, same with any electric toys, you will pay for the quality even if it's Chinese, those wheels especially

[@andreas11735]

What an absolutely stupid comment.

[@AxelDayton]

That's it! I'll have to try building one myself, that looks like too much fun!

[@toolate6971]

Ha, it worked. Great JOB!

[@kriscsandli2147]

Great video thanks for sharing. I got a Waydoo e-foil in the US for $5k. Great product

[@EdwinOlding]

How long does it take to get?

[@michaelschultz342]

Having to "Cut, Drill, Trim, Modify, etc.." is NOT a good sign when assembling a "RTR"(Ready to Run) Product(of ANY kind...). That being said, you should have immediately replaced the bolts with rounded (semi-flush) bolts or even flat bolts(1/16th-1/32nd thickness head or thinner, depend on needed strength) and put the nuts INSIDE the Board, it doesn't reduce the Drag you were concerned about, it practically eliminates it. Small, simple, effective changes can have profound or even massive results to a End Product.

[@MikeOrkid]

I love how passionate you are with the electric powered toys. Especially compared to what Grind Hard is usually working on.

[@sfuchs]

Who is Grind Hard, how are we supposed to know him?

[@francksob9936]

@@sfuchs grindhardplumbing i highly recommand to you great content

[@Qwertinoo]

you should try windsurfing :) or winging. Prob you figured it out already, the back foot creates lift to the foil, while the front brings it down and gives control

[@francoisgrimard5816]

Thanks for making this

[@gregrankin8073]

Great tutorial buddy 👍

[@leomora6817]

I was waiting for a review like this

[@raycar1165]

Looks like lots of fun!

[@StefanMailey]

Try a stand-up jetski! You'll be hooked ;). Great video!

[@ajm2193]

Very cool and I recognize the location I have been wingfoiling there for about 4 years awesome lake. You should try wingfoiling next, plenty of used gear for sale, maybe see you on the lake.

[@bodiewane2294]

So cool to see u on your own channel first one i watched...let's go bro

[@EdwinOlding]

Thanks!

[@xtalviper]

Can we appreciate the camera guy who is on one as well and doing all that not looking where he's going while keeping dude in frame?

[@empireprotege]

He was filming himself with a 360 camera. No second cameraman.

[@OldmanCrypto100]

lol....cameraman

[@psalm2forliberty577]

​@@empireprotege How's that 360 camera work as I saw no selfie stick ? Looked like a separate camera guy - aside from it keeping perfect spacing from the subject.

[@gregwaters8480]

100 percent the funnest sport I’ve done!!!! I’m very interested in a Flight Board - scooter model! Sooo expensive but simply the fastest and most stable of every model I’ve tried!!!

[@WhiteSiroi]

looks awesome, ty

[@frankstrobel4350]

bolts re upside down as mentioned. also.don't worry bout the drag. once on foil, it is out of water. I do a lot of win foiling...same setup.

[@nicks9795]

The recent search of hello kitty lipgloss has me worried 😂

[@saladitakiteschool7644]

I am obsessede over foil everything! I mostly wing foil and pump over flat water but getting better a prone surfing and downwinders. You should come to La Ventana, Baja California Sur and I will be stocke to teach you wingfoiling and the other disciplines!

[@browntrousersmoment]

Very cool video dudski!

[@BLEKSIDE]

Really hope these will get more affordable in the near future

[@ozawashere]

Yeah I totally get that new tech cost a lot. Hopefully e foils / e unicycles and all the other cool new stuff that cost alot now becomes mainstream in a few years and is actually accessible to the normal person that wants to have fun

[@acamilop]

My friend bought two of the getFoil boards. Kind of the cheapest basic board. Had a blast learning over the course of two seasons. I think it is much harder than it looks.

[@joesolo-op6jh]

You RULE Thank U!

[@mikekrodose123]

Looks fun AF!!!

[@ernestgreen6821]

Nice review! 👍👍👍

[@Pete_R63]

I'm waiting on one from an Indiegogo deal. It is called Xfoil. They have one around $3800 and I bought the $4699 kit. I also spent About $1800 extra for travel bags for the board and foil, a few extra parts, and a spare extended battery. Then, they hit me with shipping of $921 from Fremont, CA to the Atlanta, GA area. The batteries and charger came last week and I am still waiting on the board. I have been wanting one for about 4 years but when I saw a LIFT brand was $12K, I thought it was a pretty obscene price for what amounted to 75 lbs of board, foil, and battery. They claim that once this fundraiser is fulfilled, my unit will run $14K. We'll see. Cheers

[@drio420]

I haven't put down money yet, but I'm considering it. Why hasn't anyone posted a review yet on them? (aside from Xfoil created vids) I'm in love with the multiple configuration options.

[@hamidlabbaci7429]

Hello could advise regarding me X foil Did u tried it please let me know

[@johnny8dog1]

Hyped for you bud!

[@gurkenfisch63]

Dude that looks so cool

[@dukie1616]

Reminds me when snowboarding first hit the scene, actually before. There was this article in Boys Life magazine that showed these guys riding this thing (Burton) with a rope tied to the front of it leading up to the forward hand. So I made one modifying a single water ski and took it up to our local mountain (mt. Hood) which of course they didn’t let me on the lifts, so I walk up. It worked like crap but I had a blast. It wouldn’t be for another 10 years before snowboards started showing up at our local resort. And they still didn’t let them on the lifts😂 It would take a bit for them to catch on. I should tell you about being the first rollerblader on Venice Beach, but that’s a story for another day, and I’m starting to sound like Forrest Gump;) Anyway have fun trail blazing your new sport at your local lake, and thank you for the video. So cool!👏

[@everettstormy]

Lol, i was the first to comment on this video back in the 20s

[@its_dirtnasty]

shii sound like I have you to thank for a dope childhood. grow up in Cali in the 90s and rollerblading was a big part of sports where I'm from. and from my time round your mountain, mt hood, i can't imagine what itd be like without boards

[@dukie1616]

It was winter of 85 and I picked up a pair of rollerblades at the only place that carried them, at an ice-skating rink, and they were very obscure even there because all the ice skaters thought they were really stupid so none of them bought any. I rode up and down the boardwalk at Venice Beach for a couple years before I saw another rollerblader. I was a vert skater at the time (skateboard) So the first time I showed up to this backyard half pipe with rollerblades my friends laughed at me and strangers hated. Which ironically several years before that was the exact same experience I had at mt. hood with my homemade snowboard. Friends laughed strangers hated. Anyway the rest is history. Thanks for the interest down memory lane. Take care

[@its_dirtnasty]

@@dukie1616 that's fuckin tight! had some great times ridin vert on blades. and homemade things make the best rides. my first 'snowboard' was duct tape on a skateboard with some sleeping bag straps as bindings. fun as hell. stay up! thanks for the inspirations

[@garyfritz4709]

@Dukie I had one of those boards in the 60’s! It was called a “Snurfer.” I had a blast with it! www.jwkash.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Snurfer.jpg

[@tmonster2247]

AWESOME VIDEO EDWIN

[@Canmx120]

They must have crazy margins on these... like 60-80%. A surron ultra bee electric motorcycle is like $8k Canadian. $5-6k less than one of these premium efoils and would have an order of magnitude more R&D and technology in it than on of these boards. Looks super fun but the early adopter tax is wild and these companies just get to name their price until a company actually comes out and prices one of these reasonably. The ali-express option should be less than a thousand and a premium one should be what you paid for your ali-express or less. Guess I'll check back on these things in 5 years and hope there was enough demand to bring some more competition to the market :(

[@tomaruba]

Hi, awesome to see that the things actually works. How is the performance after 4 months?

[@stoker20]

Jumping clear on a get off is the right move. You see everyone trying to save it, land on the foil. You'll pick up the WingFoiling fast now you can control the foil.

[@nenadvojinovic3834]

Great Video! How did you mount that Camera?

[@Oldjohn52]

My legs are cramping up just watching you.

[@joshuac673]

look into a nicer cell brand battery to upgrade too. Also changing the speed controller will help with efficiency. Its the same basic principles for electric scooters.

[@Mustardturd]

The Lacroix Vortex is probably the best cheap option to get in to it.

[@P8FPV]

That looks super cool

[@AdamOpheim]

You are on a youtube makers channel. You all should make one! Doesnt look super complex. Glad it worked for you!

[@EdwinOlding]

We agree!

[@dcmotive]

Cant believe they still cost so much. They were renting them like 6 years ago when I was passing through Singapore.

[@eucaryptus]

what type of camera are you using while you were on the efoil? gopro?

[@kevinwillard4443]

Great video, what 360 camera are you using? Looks good

[@charlesrg]

Great video. Will help promote the sport.

[@foobar1013]

You really should try wing foiling. Using the power of the wind to foil is just so much fun. Of course you cannot do it everyday like with the efoil.

[@CDW98]

Awesome video man! I’d highly highly suggest taking off that ankle leash. Once you really get going up to speed and fall you’ll end up experiencing a pretty serious lash back effect and that can seriously injure the rider. Just good for thought! Stay safe partner and have fun

[@cmed9680]

Honest nice report, I like that you were honest about not recording the first 2 sessions. I remember the first session I had with my foil / wave surfing, I came out with a bloody forehead

[@PalThingb]

I tried this in Fuerteventura recently just to get into wingfoiling, and I got completely hooked within 30 minutes. Too expensive yet though.

[@brodiewilkinson9738]

Thanks for biting the bullet and buying an Alibaba efoil. I’ve been dreaming of one ever since I first saw them.

[@howardoconnor1019]

great video thanks

[@NDKY67]

I would recommend buying a good balance board to get your core muscles trained up, just a few minutes a day on a balance board will make your actual riding time out on the water so much easier and enjoyable.

[@gerrylambertii]

Thank you sid

[@songbill9287]

Great content! Despite the diff in the looking, are you familiar with jetsurfing board? 😊

[@adamthemustache5975]

Thoughts on making one, you can buy complete lower units from 80lb trolling motors for $300. And the controller and battery are well in the norm for you guys

[@DIYjetboards]

The trolling motor won’t work. Too heavy and not enough power. Also they have to be attached to the mast . You need a brushless motor that’s sealed and has a low enough rpm that it won’t spin the prop too fast and cause cavitation. You will also need a good quality speed controller that’s waterproof. You will need a good quality battery pack that can safely deliver the amp draw that your board needs without over heating the battery pack, speed controller or the motor windings. To control it all you will need a waterproof remote control. The motor will set you back $400-$1000,speed controller $300-$1000. Battery pack $400-1400 and the remote actually costs about $250 and they kinda need to,be opened up and potted to make them properly waterproof. Virus has a video on waterproofing your waterproof remote. Personally I buy a skateboard remote for $35.00 and put it into a balloon then tie a knot in the balloon works great and if you do kill the remote you can pick ‘em up,off eBay all day long for$25 to about $45 for one that inductively charges the remote . If anyone is interested in a step by step diy build look up pacificmeister on KZbin and see his build

[@yamabiru4553]

Good job

[@waynepanui8232]

You should look into getting a Lift foil with a foil drive motor those things have pretty good power and you just buy extra batteries to stay out longer.

[@tannerd2091]

Yeah this looks like fun.

[@bungalowfeuhler1541]

It seems like the best part of this thing is being the center of attention on the lake.

[@sapconsulting4451]

You mentioned your bought a less expensive model, & plenty of discussions above. Are you able to share the name of the board & which e-store was used? Much appreciated. Tony

[@ryansfunland]

Change those mast bolts that attach the board to torx screws, will make it much easier to assemble.