New Suba Engineering PCB Microscope - Tagarno Killer?

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@ElmerFuddGun
@ElmerFuddGun 6 жыл бұрын
They only sell it with the monitor? Seems silly and would add greatly to the shipping costs if you are half way around the world. They must sell it without but just don't have the price listed...
@leestrickland
@leestrickland 6 жыл бұрын
That is impressive even before factoring in the working distance. Might need to scoot the Amscope/HDMI camera setup over for one of these!
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 6 жыл бұрын
I was impressed by the working distance of the focus, my Tagarno just isn't capable of tilting boards like that (especially at zoom) as it's focus range is limited. Let alone the focus zone feature.
@rasz
@rasz 6 жыл бұрын
all designed and manufactured in Australia, except -monitor -actual camera module -actual lens module -actual linux SoC module
@KX36
@KX36 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but they put it in a black case with their logo on it so that's got to be worth $1000
@voltlog
@voltlog 6 жыл бұрын
that is impressive, it seems like they looked at the tagarno microscope and said, f*ck that, we can make a better one for half the price and so they did!
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 6 жыл бұрын
They literally did, I spoke to the owner about it.
@p_mouse8676
@p_mouse8676 6 жыл бұрын
VoltLog. Wonderful in a production line, but there are many ways to get similar quality for 1/10 to 1/2 of this price even. Asking just a little bit of creativity.
@voltlog
@voltlog 6 жыл бұрын
Do you know any off the shelve camera + software that can do that zone of interest auto-focus thing? And is compatible with off the shelve magnification optics? I am not aware of such a setup existing..
@p_mouse8676
@p_mouse8676 6 жыл бұрын
Not out of my head, but I have seen and worked with plenty of setups with macro camera's, lenses etc that worked just fine to find defects on PCB's Nowadays there is even a lot possible with just a decent smartphone. Maybe not the ultra "crisp and sharp" super HD quality, but more than good enough to work with. (and a smart person can probably make it equally good even) Just saying it for people or companies that don't have such a budget. Keep in mind that 1080 isn't that much to brag about anymore these days.
@rasz
@rasz 6 жыл бұрын
its not re-autofocusing, its following center box focus. this is ~50 lines with OpenCV. Checking for blurriness can be as trivial as compressing image and comparing size - less blurr = more detail = more information = bigger size. Or do it properly and run fft/laplacian. Its all basic stuff nowadays.
@Psi105
@Psi105 6 жыл бұрын
Sell the tagarno immediately before the secondhand market crashes
@bengrant4724
@bengrant4724 6 жыл бұрын
Too late, this video is already out there..
@zaprodk
@zaprodk 6 жыл бұрын
Wow. That's insanely impressive!
@3Dparallax
@3Dparallax 6 жыл бұрын
Love that definable focus point, that alone is incredible. Really nice scope and awesome they are packing it as a RTF of sorts, just unpack and use. Awesome!
@willyarma_uk
@willyarma_uk 6 жыл бұрын
Wow its crystal clear! Impressed
@markharwood
@markharwood 6 жыл бұрын
Get it Dave! And then a full review!
@sefarkas0
@sefarkas0 6 жыл бұрын
Does it go out of focus when you stick your soldering iron in?
@oambrosia
@oambrosia 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, and to think because of you Dave I told the boss I needed a Tagarno. I guess now I need one of these! I'm pretty sure we spent about $10k for our Tagarno because of options/software. This is very impressive. You don't even need to qualify it with "for the money".
@DrakkarCalethiel
@DrakkarCalethiel 6 жыл бұрын
That picture looks unreal, and with that price for only 1.8 grand this is a nobrainer if you want a high quallity PCB microscope. If it has a high longevity it will wipe the floor with the tagarno. Louis would love this one for sure!
@artisankatstudios7902
@artisankatstudios7902 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I do very small carvings and this could be a great alternative to a stereo microscope. Really enjoying this second channel.
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 6 жыл бұрын
The 100 working distance might be plenty. But for curving type work I'd say look at the Mantis optical scope, no microscope eye or posture fatigue.
@userPrehistoricman
@userPrehistoricman 6 жыл бұрын
Louis Rossmann would tell you that stereo microscopes are far better than mono or digital because you can tell depth. The purpose for a digital microscope is different to that of an optical one.
@rodrigomaero
@rodrigomaero 6 жыл бұрын
That's really cool, but for rework you really need a binocular microscope so you can maintain hand-eye coordination and get the depth perception
@Drew-Dastardly
@Drew-Dastardly 6 жыл бұрын
This is not the case for those of us with amblyopia. I think the lag is the biggest problem when dealing with microscopes to digital video, which is perhaps why specific monitors are provided with this kit?
@Sixta16
@Sixta16 6 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly impressive. Me impressed too!
@MatthewSuffidy
@MatthewSuffidy 6 жыл бұрын
So what exactly is that tube thing in the lower middle at 1:50? Looks like maybe some sort of inductor?
@Gonras
@Gonras 6 жыл бұрын
I want to know that too ! 😄
@alexiekola
@alexiekola 6 жыл бұрын
question is did dave order one?
@Hasitier
@Hasitier 6 жыл бұрын
Nice. Full review and teardown next week?
@agurdel
@agurdel 6 жыл бұрын
Does it come with an excuse for the wife why you need it?
@bacphan7582
@bacphan7582 6 жыл бұрын
I need it to see my Dong, honey
@ickipoo
@ickipoo 6 жыл бұрын
It's for checking the superior quality of her cross-stitch, of course.
@bengrant4724
@bengrant4724 6 жыл бұрын
That would be my restriction aswell...
@tablatronix
@tablatronix 6 жыл бұрын
wow thats fast focus
@ppdan
@ppdan 6 жыл бұрын
The quick focus is a nice feature for inspecting boards but wouldn't it be annoying when you start working in that area?
@userPrehistoricman
@userPrehistoricman 6 жыл бұрын
When you zoom out, the depth of field will increase so no refocusing would occur
@The_Paya
@The_Paya 6 жыл бұрын
What would be the price without the monitor? Or it's an all-in-one and needs to 'come as a pair'?
@timthompson468
@timthompson468 6 жыл бұрын
I want one! Strange, I couldn’t find it on their website. Is it that new?
@mcconkeyb
@mcconkeyb 6 жыл бұрын
I agree, I want one too!
@MedSou
@MedSou 6 жыл бұрын
Really impressive 👍👍👍👍👍
@avejst
@avejst 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing😀👍
@BersekViking
@BersekViking 6 жыл бұрын
Can it do focus stacking?
@magnifikus3
@magnifikus3 6 жыл бұрын
One has to admit that tagarno was pretty solo in the field of mid range microscopes until today, so they could set the price! 1. i want a euro distributor for this thing! 2. expect tagarno to drop abit soon :)
@valerionappi7839
@valerionappi7839 6 жыл бұрын
The andonstar adsm302 might not be so advanced in the features like this one but the image quality is just as good, and it's sold for a sixth of that price. May be worth to check it out. Sadly it doesn't have autofocus
@ToumalRakesh
@ToumalRakesh 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I just got the adsm302 myself and it's absolutely fantastic for the price, you can mount it in a close and a far position while the focus ring is still usable, and while it obviously doesn't have autofocus, the image quality is absolutely fantastic.
@sydmichel
@sydmichel 6 жыл бұрын
Dave, was there much latency on these scopes?
@mc_cpu
@mc_cpu 6 жыл бұрын
Must admit it's better than my $30 USB one.😁 Can they lend you one?
@TheDefpom
@TheDefpom 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, I have been thinking about getting a high quality microscope, I am so tempted ! Nothing on their site about it though, I wonder if they can sell direct to me in NZ... or send me a review unit 😉
@Okurka.
@Okurka. 6 жыл бұрын
But how much does it cost?
@rkan2
@rkan2 6 жыл бұрын
Louis sworns by oculars for soldering though.
@dismayer666
@dismayer666 6 жыл бұрын
Why they add a 4k monitor to 1080p capable microscope? :)
@userPrehistoricman
@userPrehistoricman 6 жыл бұрын
yeah lol
@oambrosia
@oambrosia 6 жыл бұрын
Marketing LOL!
@bengrant4724
@bengrant4724 6 жыл бұрын
$1800 are you kidding me! That's amazing!!!!
@oswaldjh
@oswaldjh 6 жыл бұрын
So new it isn't even listed on their Web Site.
@KennethRosenstroem
@KennethRosenstroem 6 жыл бұрын
4K monitor for 1080P???? Why....
@sebrassino
@sebrassino 6 жыл бұрын
For all the other things you can use a pc screen. I would buy it if I had the need for it.
@Limeayy
@Limeayy 6 жыл бұрын
I don't get it, whats the difference between this and what Louis RossmanGroup's sells AmScope 7X-45X Simul-Focal Stereo Lockable Zoom Microscope on Dual Arm Boom Stand?
@Gameboygenius
@Gameboygenius 6 жыл бұрын
Don't know how serious the question was but some people prefer a purely optical microscope because it improves their hand eye coordination compared to looking at a screen.
@Limeayy
@Limeayy 6 жыл бұрын
oh okay, sorry. I'm not using sarcasm or trying to sell anything. I was really interested in whats better. The microscope purely would be the AmScope correct and the handeye coordination using a screen would be the Suba... because i feel like you have that mistaken that or i'm mistaken.
@Gameboygenius
@Gameboygenius 6 жыл бұрын
@@Limeayy the argument Louis used for an optical microscope (one where you look into an eyepiece) is that it's distraction free and that your field of vision is fixed, so it "feels" more like you're looking directly at the work you're doing.
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 6 жыл бұрын
Optical microscope are different to digital, they have different uses. This one is purely digital and has massive optical zoom and focus range for deep objects.
@Limeayy
@Limeayy 6 жыл бұрын
oh okay, thanks.
@anthonycarrollfixingstuff5424
@anthonycarrollfixingstuff5424 6 жыл бұрын
its got no listing on there website?
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 6 жыл бұрын
Doesn't seem to be, it's brand new.
@sefarkas0
@sefarkas0 6 жыл бұрын
Pat the high price to be at a trade show and not list it at all?
@Limeayy
@Limeayy 6 жыл бұрын
You have to purchase the monitor too? A HP junk?
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 6 жыл бұрын
No, it's included, 4K.
@Limeayy
@Limeayy 6 жыл бұрын
4k Res or 4k Cash
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 6 жыл бұрын
4K res, AU$1800 total for the lot.
@andygock
@andygock 6 жыл бұрын
EEVblog2 I have one, for $1800+GST, it comes with a standard range Asus 1080p Full HD IPS panel monitor, not a 4K monitor! I forget the size, it's around 22 inch or something. $1500+GST option for no monitor. The captured images and movies are also 1080p.
@timmgiles
@timmgiles 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing. Just wish I didn't have so much import tax to pay
@Mr.Unacceptable
@Mr.Unacceptable 6 жыл бұрын
The monitored scopes are horrible to work with for repairing or building up PCB's. Messes with hand coordination. I can see where they are better at some things. Like taking pictures. A DSLR with macro and a tripod does just as good and it's under 300.
@sokolum
@sokolum 6 жыл бұрын
Rossmann could use this...
@Trent-tr2nx
@Trent-tr2nx 6 жыл бұрын
I've got a strong urge for Dave to get this and then tear the Tagano apart....
@dipakbhalodia7155
@dipakbhalodia7155 6 жыл бұрын
This function are full videos to be load in detail
@zaprodk
@zaprodk 6 жыл бұрын
huh?
@canningpark
@canningpark 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I bought that suba 200x scope and believe it or not I can even see my sperm swimming.
@francoisp3625
@francoisp3625 6 жыл бұрын
ho ? very nice & impressive material ... very much more efficiant than "chinese" usb microscopes :)
@jhoughjr1
@jhoughjr1 6 жыл бұрын
I'm legally blind. I'd love one of these for soldering. Much better than the Ibis or iPhone in a panavise I use now.
@WacKEDmaN
@WacKEDmaN 6 жыл бұрын
sell the Tagarno and Mantis and replace them with the Suba!
@EEVblog2
@EEVblog2 6 жыл бұрын
No way I've giving up my Mantis. It's camera is completely useless but the optics cannot be beat.
@Okurka.
@Okurka. 6 жыл бұрын
Is that why you use $5 reading glasses to do your soldering?
@NivagSwerdna
@NivagSwerdna 6 жыл бұрын
ooooooo. Nice.
@sefarkas0
@sefarkas0 6 жыл бұрын
So new, it’s not on their web site.
@mdmaxx6243
@mdmaxx6243 6 жыл бұрын
Nice but you can't not solder if you must look monitor. Must use microscope.
@e4r281
@e4r281 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing. Give me that toy !
@SproutyPottedPlant
@SproutyPottedPlant 6 жыл бұрын
I want one!!!!
@danielaustin7643
@danielaustin7643 6 жыл бұрын
so that costs less than £1000, crazy
@Peter_S_
@Peter_S_ 6 жыл бұрын
I want one.....
@mikeissweet
@mikeissweet 6 жыл бұрын
Bobby dazzler!
@CrashPilot1000
@CrashPilot1000 6 жыл бұрын
Anybody using oldschool binocular stereo microscope? I got some russian brand with unreadable manual but with Zeiss optics for under 100€ ... from a backyard sale ... and I didn't ask questions, it was new :)
@MrSnoots
@MrSnoots 6 жыл бұрын
Take my money!
@OmarMekkawy
@OmarMekkawy 6 жыл бұрын
WOW its overkill really, now Tagarno must do serious job. You can get one of these and give me the Tagarno hhhhhhh :D
@SupremeRuleroftheWorld
@SupremeRuleroftheWorld 6 жыл бұрын
somsone give it to louis rossman.
@Spector_NS5_RD
@Spector_NS5_RD 6 жыл бұрын
Buy one.
@Thirsty_Fox
@Thirsty_Fox 6 жыл бұрын
They should do a Louis Rossman signature edition. 😎
@spakecdk
@spakecdk 6 жыл бұрын
does everything have to be dubbed ***** killer? really?
@aerishfaith592
@aerishfaith592 2 жыл бұрын
this is china made, they just put modified the external looks.
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