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Review of the new $70 Miniware DT71 LCR Tweezers, is it any good?
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00:00 - Introduction
04:24 - Tweezer design
06:28 - In use
08:58 - Downsides compared to the SmartTweezers
11:53 - Dodgy Readings!
13:14 - Automatic mode 2nd parameter measurement
14:48 - Scope Measurements
17:38 - LED measurements
18:53 - More measurements
20:00 - Calibration Mode
21:24 - Voltage Measurement
23:13 - Charging
25:43 - The problem with the charge lead
27:46 - Conclusion
TLDR; It's not very accurate, doesn't have much resolution, limited ranges, accuracy issues between Auto and Manual modes, can't be used while charging, lose the custom charge lead and you are screwed, tilt head detection has a bit of an alignment issue, LED testing is limited, and the secondary measurements basically don't work.
But for $70 it's very handy and nothing else can touch it, and the probe design is gorgeous.
Absolutely no match for the much more expensive SmartTweezers.
Maybe they can fix some stuff in firmware to improve it.
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[@EEVblog]

TLDR; It's not very accurate, limited resolution, limited ranges, accuracy issues between Auto and Manual modes, non-standard test frequencies, can't be used while charging, lose the custom charge lead and you are screwed, tilt head detection has a bit of an alignment issue, LED testing is limited, and the secondary measurements basically don't work. But for $70 it's very handy and nothing else can touch it, and the probe design is gorgeous. Absolutely no match for the much more expensive SmartTweezers. Maybe they can fix some stuff in firmware to improve it.

[@Spector_NS5_RD]

Jeez Dave, are there any downsides? 🤣 Dave would make the worst car salesman ever!...😂😂

[@TestECull]

For 70 bucks and it doesn't have good accuracy, resolution, range, accuracy, can't be used while charging, proprietary charge lead? Yeah it can jog on. I'll stick to the bulkier LCR meter that doesn't have those same flaws. Also hate hate hate hate that sort of one-button interface nonsense. I'd honestly rather see them just release those pincers as a lead for traditional meters.

[@EEVblog]

@@Spector_NS5_RD But it's seventy bucks! :->

[@EEVblog]

@@TestECull I did get used to the touch button interface, it's ok. I'd certainly buy the leads on their own with banana plug interface.

[@FennecTECH]

It looks like most of the wok has gone into those tweezers! And the explicable heads is GENIOUS Meaning upgraded heads can just be stop and swapped! Plus a banana plug adapter is totally in the woks! As for wear and tear on the connector its TRS. Already really really robust and long lasting. TRS is about as solid as it gets!

[@miniware]

Thank you for your review. We will continue to improve the firmware and products, In the DT71 configuration file, you can choose left and right hand mode and turn off screen rotation, Accurate calibration, we made an excel file, only need to fill in the measured value according to the prompts to accurately calibrate. Thank you again for your comments, we will fix the BUG in the new firmware.

[@simontay4851]

If you can add capacitor ESR measurement in a firmware update, i will buy one.

[@cheryldroffner443]

MINIWARE I just ordered one but I and very interested in being able to measure cap ESRs in circuit. I hope you add that feature!

[@kwpctek9190]

@@cheryldroffner443 In circuit? I think that would require both polarity reversals and frequency sweeps to analyze, approximate and subtract from the results. Check-out YT video *Peak Atlas ESR70 plus in circuit* for a better look, because this process is difficult. BTW, don't buy it on Amazon, buy it direct using the Atlas discount code on EEVblog. Search the forum for "Special Offer to EEVblog Forum Members" (I think it's only about $20 more than this rubbish).

[@TommyScrew]

So is it fixed yet? Looking to buy one right now

[@Sir_Uncle_Ned]

Using magnets in place of springs is pure genius! They've put a whole crapload of thought into this thing

[@plemli]

"but then I'd have to bodge up a lead" Great procrastination there. I'm gonna steal it.

[@JWH3]

Just my anecdotal experience but to the age of 8 with two kids plugging and unplugging headphones from their tablets sometimes a few times a day over the cours of years, I have had many cables fail, but never once had a connector fail.

[@victortitov1740]

It is quite common to see sockets ripped off boards: sometimes solder fails, sometimes pads get lifted, sometimes pins break off. And i hate the plugs for diy with leaf terminals, they are pressed together and become loose with use. Other than that, TRS connectors are usually very robust, indeed.

[@JWH3]

@@victortitov1740 some people are animals with them. They do have their limits :) I mean they're not supposed to be rescue tethers for dropping your phone and not infrequently serve that purpose, in some cases succeeding.

[@kjamison5951]

For what I need in work, this is perfect. We have a single LCR meter for the entire factory and despite its shortcomings, this would be ideal for quick measurements. If they seemed off, we get the proper meter but at a glance readings, seems perfect.

[@KeenanTims]

As a hobbyist I really hate products that have high standby current like that and rechargeable batteries. I'm only likely to pick it up once in a while, and when I do it's inevitably dead and needs charging before use. Then after a few cycles of overdischarge like this, the battery itself is basically toast. My 1990s HP DMM has a soft power button and it lasts for years on standby, why is this so hard :|

[@MetalheadAndNerd]

Same problem for me. I had to buy 3 digital calipers to find one that doesn't drain it's battery between two usages. The well known open source component tester is also such an offender. Fortunately there was enough space for a switch in the case.

[@Retep4565]

@@MetalheadAndNerd Interesting, I've got one of these open source component testers as well and use a rechargeable 9V battery to power it. I don't use it often (the electronics hobby has been on the backburner last couple of years) so standby current for my battery powered equipment is rather important for me. I only have to recharge the battery of my mostly dormant component tester once a year or so, most likely because of self-discharge characteristics these batteries have. This component tester uses a transistor to cut power to its entire circuit when it is powered down, i.e. it doesn't rely on the sleep mode of the AVR microcontroller to keep the standby current low.

[@MetalheadAndNerd]

@@Retep4565 I use mine with non-rechargeable 9V batteries amd before the power switch mod it took 2 months of non-usage to completely drain a fresh battery.

[@user-uk5bx1kz2k]

@@MetalheadAndNerd I have 2 devices. 1 drains and other not. never compared schematics, but think they are similar, so it's probably a software issue

[@spakecdk]

I actually love the charging LED thing. So many indicator LEDs are way too bright...

[@somanyfnbananas2774]

@@Okurka. Definitely enough ^^

[@TheDefpom]

I think the 3.5mm connector will last ok, I plug headphones into my iPhone 2 or 3 times a day and have done for a few years, still going fine, I’m pretty sure it’s not an issue in general.

[@SidneyCritic]

I actually like it polarised for LEDs, because I always forget which side is +/- lol. Top heavy would sux because it would want to flip back over your hand.

[@victortitov1740]

exactly, most of the time i need to probe a led is in order to find out the polarity.

[@RLKD8DNS]

Good review! I bought one, and I’m somewhat happy with it. I knew what I was getting when I purchased it. For me, it comes in handy for quick testing on boards and hunting for blown fuses and caps. I have compared it to my NIST traceable LCR lcr meter, and would never depend on it for accuracy. You did a great job with this review.

[@wphanoo]

The charging system is pretty ridiculous, they could put the USB port directly on the device, maybe the body would be 5mm longer but still better than that dongle-thing

[@villesyrjala3354]

I also don't really understand the point of that extra length of cable on the dongle. Wonder why it isn't just a rigid single piece?

[@EEVblog]

@@villesyrjala3354 Yep.

[@piotrchec8156]

Why not to charge through the tweezers? Simple adapter and replaceable by any clips in case of need.

[@piotrchec8156]

@@Okurka. Who said directly to mains?! 5V like it actually is, but not through 3.5mm jacks, nor through USB but by putting the tweezers into a two holes custom socket.

[@simontay4851]

Piotr Chec because it can measure voltage. How would it know if you wanted to measure a voltage or charge it.

[@kevincozens6837]

@5:40 "Caliberation". :) Someone was really thinking when they made it auto switch the display orientation when switching which hand is holding the device.

[@gblargg]

Sounds like it might double as a tool for the gun range.

[@TheTarkovish]

Thanks for the review. I bought one of those Multi-Function Tester (square beige box) and it has be serviceable, using a tweezers insert for smd. Also: I really like when the timeline of the video can be seen, thx!

[@stevetobias4890]

Good review, agree with the comments about a bigger head / screen, this should also allow for better resolution having more space for circuitry.

[@EEVblog]

Making it too small and simple and cheap was probably a mistake. It really could have been a good competitor to the Smart Tweezers.

[@stevetobias4890]

@@EEVblog totally agree, wouldn't have taken too much to put the extra touches in either. Even if they made it better at $100-$120 it would have been a super competitor.

[@tiny_toilet]

Those are some amazing tweezers. If they fix some firmware issues, it's a real winner. I see the same company has a mini logic analyzer and power supply now that look great, too.

[@lost4468yt]

The little powered screwdriver they have is great as well, Marco Reps has a video going over both versions of it. And they sell a mini hotplate, that again Marco Reps shows partially in a recent video. I love the company, they make brilliant things, and their designs are amazing, the products always feel super high quality. It's nice that we're starting to see China put out more and more high quality products like this. Especially while still keeping such a cheap price. Imagine if the TS80 or this was designed in the EU or US, it would cost a fuck ton.

[@NICK-uy3nl]

To summarize: 9 out of 10 for the mechanical design, 5 out of 10 for the functional design. Wait for the next generation to work the bugs out (hopefully)

[@DerAlbi]

The moment you accept that your 22nF ceramic capacitor has 300Ohm ESR and just continue on..... (10:30)

[@EEVblog]

Err, yeah, totally missed that.

[@DerAlbi]

@@EEVblog The real question is: is it repeatable? Maybe the ultra low ESR or the nature of the loss (tan delta) is confusing the LCR meter permanently.. that would be interesting!

[@MBrulla]

Soon as I saw the Miniware logo I knew this was going to be good. Damn, this is tempting.

[@DIY-valvular]

It would have been a fantastic practical tool if it were existed in my years of audio and video serviceman in the 1990's. It is not that accurate as a bench instrument, but in field work conditions it is very handy. The signal generation function you find it almost useless, but measuring components plus signal tracing/injecting in a single small instrument is a winner formula in field repair service! Dave, best regards from Buenos Aires. Waiting for springtime :-)

[@groovejet33]

I like how you put in some time to go into good detail for these tweezers. Look great and nice modern display. Good video, just like your older video's you used to do. My favourites were the Oscilloscope reviews. Fromwatching the vid's my choice if i were to get one would be the Rigol DS1000Z , price is great and it seems to do alot for the money. If these videos hadnt been made, i wouldnt be any wiser about the choices i should make.

[@si98justme1]

To be very fair TRS style 3.5mm jacks have been tested to be pretty darn reliable... We has them in walkmans, cd players, amplifiers, laptops etc from way back when till now, and they seem pretty (and I'd argue proven) robust over the years, more so than micro USB even... That being said, I don't agree with the solution of a proprietary cable, that if you lose it, you're hooped. I would have selected a more ubiquitous connector on the head for comms and charging, probably not USB C (for size constraints due to extra circuitry required for negotiating the standard). That cable was probably selected because people would have bleeted to no end, if it didn't have USB C, and that was the only way they could use that type and keep the form factor. I completely disagree with a replaceable AAA or any other disposable battery for that matter, and the main reason is that they all leak if left unused in the device for a while, and would have made it unbearably top heavy. As with most, if not, all Miniware products they are open source as well as STM32 based and can probably be tweaked to display the other measurements such as ECR for inductors etc in addition to the rating. The biggest issue I have is with the fact that it can't test transistors (other than 2 legs at a time in diode setting), that is one thing those DIY $7 jobs will do.

[@ibrahimabukharmeh489]

Dont turn it on, take it apart :(

[@gblargg]

He does at 3:43. /s

[@12346798Mann]

Not bad for a quick measurement. When I was doing incoming goods inspection for SMD parts we had a 5U monstrosity (pretty old but still very accurate).

[@JerryBiehler]

I have a old ESI 296 I paid $25 for at the Tek store. Took it to work and checked it out and it works perfectly darned near 45 years later.

[@AissaAzzaz]

Awesome I love the enthusiasm man

[@hgbugalou]

Thanks for sharing this is perfect for my amateur lab.

[@gblargg]

At first I thought the connector for the head was a bad idea due to possible poor connection, but it provides infinite rotation to give the best viewing angle, without wires inside to get twisted up or wear out. The display flipping seems to lack hysteresis. Seems common for these kinds of things. EDIT: Also makes it easy to replace the probes and built-in battery without having to replace the main display unit.

[@EEVblog]

Yes, it's clever.

[@svampebob007]

I think you could do it with a simple spring loaded pins and a magnet, where the 4 tracks are just concentric circles on one part and the pins aligned on 4 "corners". I really don't understand why magnetic connectors aren't more of a thing especially in equipment that require constant unplugging like phones, watches and misc electronic devices. If there's one thing that electronics manufacturer should have copied apple on is those god damn mag chargers! it took for ever for others to "copy" them and yet we are still dependent on a flimsy USB connection on our phones. /rant

[@Tobi-xj8xw]

@@svampebob007 at least most new phones use the more durable and revisable usb c

[@MrDoneboy]

As always...Thanks, Dave!

[@MrCarGuy]

Noticed these last week. I'd wait for the future generations.

[@sirflimflam]

Pretty neat little device. It's nice to see so many cheap *and* decent items showing up on the market through ali, especially for the hobbyist scene. Might not be the most accurate thing around, but for $70 I can't see you going wrong if you're not doing super accuracy critical work.

[@PHamster]

Can’t wait for EEVBlog1337

[@russwilliams8274]

Just ordered one (to be my first/only LCR meter)... :)

[@mrpetit2]

Miniware should make/sell the tweezerbit as a separate unit with leads to use with a stand alone lcr meter. The tweezerdesign with the magnets is the best part of this device, the rest is meh.

[@Duglum666]

Yeah, or they could just include (or sell) some 4mm plug leads to use the tweezers with a normal multimeter. That would be nice. :) Hm.. actually, since the plug looks like a normal 3.5mm 4-pin plug.. maybe making one yourself would be easy.

[@gregfeneis609]

For best results, keep in mind that the user's hands and other nearby objects can affect accuracy from measurement to measurement. I recommend that when performing calibration or zero, hold the tweezers a certain and comfortable way, as they would be held during use, perform the zero or calibration, then continue holding the tool the same way. If planning to probe narrow objects, check/correct calibration using a narrow object, and vise versa. They appear to have nicely designed everything except the plug-in electronics module. The great thing is, the tweezers mechanism is a platform upon which they can market better and better electronic packages.

[@acoustic61]

I'll wait 'til the price drops!

[@Sharklops]

The nice thing with the modular way they've designed it is that they could come out with a larger display unit that just plugs into the tweezer body

[@tonyquinn7479]

"A bad day with murphy" rofl love it thanks mate :-)

[@JWH3]

Those gimmicky modes you're talking about there would actually be pretty handy for a hobbyist on the cheap that has to limit their budget on tools, nothing to write home about for sure but it'll do in a pinch.

[@vhm14u2c]

Cheers and thanks for sharing!

[@lasersbee]

I just placed a pre-order on BangGood for one of these. It is supposed to ship by Sept 20. Paid $63.91 USD Shipped to Canada.

[@Mr.Leeroy]

23:52 That light pipe is awesome! Always hated when LED is so much brighter pointed directly in your face. And this one is installed on the same side as display. Not sure if this is intentional, but I recon it is, judging how everything else mechanical was engineered. It really only sucks in software and simplistic circuit.

[@uzaiyaro]

The important thing with Miniware is that the firmware tends to be open source. There's an open source firmware for the TS-100 that gives it loads of extra features, it's actually really nice. So just wait until someone does their own firmware for this. I think this product really has potential, and I'm absolutely going to be buying one.

[@xDevscom_EE]

Caliberation? :) Metrologist in me died a little...

[@thegoodhen]

You mean the meteorologist.

[@Hagledesperado]

Meteorologist? The motorist in me died a little.

[@yeet1337]

@@thegoodhen Very big oof

[@Kirillissimus]

A metrologist? Are you one of the guys who draws all the underground metro station diagrams or something?

[@xDevscom_EE]

Jee, people :) Metrology = science of measurement. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrology

[@Arek_R.]

You can display two lines of text on that screen, probably dual parameters will come in custom firmwares. Though older audience wouldn't be able to read that.

[@aldob5681]

For hobby it seem better a 7$ device with the leads shortly shown in the video

[@jessicav2031]

I was really just hoping for a teardown. It is pretty small...does it do everything with MCU GPIOs? Or is there extra circuitry? If so it must be nice and small and I'm a sucker for that :)

[@markg735]

Sometimes I just need to know order of magnitude of a component. This seems really handy for those times. To be honest not having yet another set of leads on my bench is the real win here.

[@arcrad]

Make an adapter so you can plug the tweezer front end into a nicer LCR meter. Best of both worlds and a nice mobile fallback if needed!

[@electronicsNmore]

I think it's nice having no wires to get in your way or snagged.

[@jpsimas2]

14:02 if the test frequency is 100kHz then when when R goes from 100k to 200k and C is 6.7pf then the reactance starts being greater than the resistance

[@andydelle4509]

One solution to the 3.5mm jack life issue might be to make or find a short male to female rigid coupler. This would put the stress non the replaceable coupler. But after watching this I think I'll wait and buy the good one for $300. Cheap tools are no bargin no matter what it is.

[@TheAmmoniacal]

I'll wait for a second revision.. I hope this is the TS100 and there's a TS80 coming.

[@qzorn4440]

i like fluke equipment and other hi-$ brands... but for home, i really-really like cheap hobby test-equipment that does almost as well at a fraction of the price... great video as always, thanks...:)

[@allthegearnoidea6752]

Looks good, If I didn’t already have more stuff than I can ever use I would get one.

[@kwpctek9190]

The Atlas ESR70 is $20 more with the "Special Offer to EEVblog Forum Members" they posted, and.. it will test in circuit and it's made in Derbyshire.. ;-)

[@jaideep1337]

Teardown Pls, Wanna see what's generating those AC signals

[@carlfranz6805]

As for Wave Form Output... Why not, it already has to do something of the sort for Capacitance and Inductance measurement. If its Microprocessor run, its not like its more then a few dozen lines of code.

[@CezaryAkakios]

Instead of the head coming off for charging, I'd design it as a docking station. When you're done you plop it down in a vertical holder which keeps it out of the way and prevents the tips from poking things as it rolls around. Design it so the tips naturally fall into two contacts so you don't have that awful TRRS connector, and work out a signaling system to do the charging through those contacts. Put the USB port on the dock so that the tweezers themselves are free from extra connectors. You could even do fancy stuff like have the dock offer banana plugs that bring out the tip connectors so you could do measurements of through-hole components with alligator leads. (You might need a physical switch or button for that so that it doesn't interfere with charging.)

[@arnauddurand127]

No teardown? Please, another episode with teardown.

[@EEVblog]

Yep. Manual says you won't be able to get it back together, so it will likely be destructive.

[@Audio_Simon]

@@EEVblog Even better, a challenge! Leave it on the healing bench for a few weeks before you re-assemble that'll help.

[@WacKEDmaN]

i noticed it was showing a resistance when you where holding the "silver" plastic bits and touching one of the probe legs with your finger!..i bet the silver plastic bits are conductive.. that would explain the resistance..aswell as the weird readings when taking measurements (due to the silver bit touching your hand)..doesnt seem like the best design when it comes to the electonics side of it of it... it does look nice tho.. ....looks like its time to "take it apart" Dave! :P

[@n0madfernan257]

hope they improve the accuracy. ill get that bad boy after the fix.

[@Jackpkmn]

What about the idea of making an adapter to use the probes with a regular meter?

[@SilverGreen93]

Can you measure in-circuit caps and ESR? Also, where can you get firmware updates from?

[@swp466]

12:24 "Caliberation" LOL

[@redtex]

Lyiberation.

[@cmulder002]

Dave could you check if you can make a adaptor lead to use the tweezer part with a proper meter?

[@markg735]

It would be too costly for safety and certification reasons but to me the ideal charge connector would be shoving the tweezer ends into our already dodgy plugs we have here in the USA.

[@hernancoronel]

NOOOOOOOO! Not another cable to loose! Like the device but would have liked to just have a female usb-c connector on the top along with a real physical button and may be even a button near the tip to have some functions handy when testing. Thank you for the video Dave and keep up the great content!

[@NeutronicalGaming]

Looks cooler than it is, as with most things these days.

[@Audio_Simon]

I nearly jumped to buy these before you got to the negatives!

[@CliveTrezona]

Wait till Ralim starts to work on the software re write on this like he has done for the TS100 TS80 and TS80P

[@delightful-ish]

All I want an LCR meter for is checking for bad caps on old consumer electronics. $70 sounds much more reasonable for this than the meters I've been looking at. Will this do the job? I think the only time ESR was mentioned was when it showed up randomly on the inductor.

[@electronic7979]

Nice product

[@OneBiOzZ]

i would not allow a user to plug it in and use it at the same time, some idiot will plug it in to a laptop and probe a shunt resistor on a live power supply, my LCR meter has an optically isolated RS232 connection on it i assume for that reason also im sure the TRRS jack is fine, i have plugged and unplugged headphones in to my phone multiple times a day for years without any issue watching this i dont think i will get a pair, but i do now want to get a tweezer adapter for my LCR meter and start sorting my cup of lost SMD parts

[@AngDavies]

Seems like there's a spike/ringing/glitchiness on your scope when it transitions into the resistance measurement section? Could that be what's throwing off the auto resistance measurement?.would only have to be a few percent total, might be worth zooming in on that transition a little more?

[@TrevorsBench]

Why wouldn't they gold plate the 3.5mm plug?

[@Masterpj555]

What about checking non smd inductors? larger inductors.. is this usable?

[@jenzbrettschneider8838]

Hello Dave ans EVVblog thx vor testing this small LCR Meter. Looks like and for the Price it is very fine. Ist this Meter allso Open Source?

[@wong4243]

Chinese hardware engineers can use multimeter probes like chopsticks

[@NeutronicalGaming]

they can and they do, and you should too.

[@wong4243]

@Mai Mariarti Before measuring,take your probe at a good angle,and there is no need to grind down the finger guards

[@wong4243]

@Mai Mariarti 2:02 in kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZpyoapdjqrB_qa8

[@Kirillissimus]

The only thing I want to know is do they sell just the tweezers part separate from all the meter head and cable gerbage and if so then for how much. They mechanics and overall design look so nice that I would happily pay 10 or maybe even 20 bucks just to crack them open and run a coax with a banana jack adapter right through the 3.5mm socket hole directly connected in place of its original guts and then use them as a premium multimeter SMD adapter.

[@dahobbs9]

Cool Beans!

[@TMS5100]

@12:24 "Caliberation". What caliber I wonder? 🤔

[@IceNein763]

What are you doing with your leads that you're always flicking off parts?

[@rfmonkey4942]

PHUCKING brilliant !

[@janbrittenson210]

They should put that tweezer probe sans battery at the end of a pair of banana leads. I'd buy it in a heartbeat!

[@kennarnett8220]

Hey Dave Peak Atlas in the UK has a tweezer electrodes for their LCR meter.

[@EEVblog]

Yeah, not the same thing though.

[@EitriBrokkr]

Should just make a tweezer style probe that plugs into your LCR meter. Or a tweezer style holder that you can stick your existing probes inside of

[@sebrassino]

What about an adapter for the bigger one with tweezers that plugs in that device like normal. Then the problem is solved.

[@MrCapacitator]

No thanks, I will stick with the DER EE DE5000 proper LCR meter which is only 30 buck more and way more useful.

[@yveslesage8525]

I definitely agree with you but I had to buy the leads (tweezer & alligator) , grand total was 130€ from Japan eBay

[@s8wc3]

Needs a "flip lock", like on your phone, or hysteresis on the rotation (so you can go slightly past TDC without it flipping). Since you can easily flash firmware onto this thing, I'd put some coin on there being a much better 3rd party firmware available in the near future

[@andymouse]

Hopefully Ralim will write new firmware.

[@MrTomasssh]

They've included such cool ideas like the magnets instead of springs and the autorotation of the screen. Then why did they not use the OBVIOUS BIG PADS IN THE FRONT for charging this thing? It'd be great if they made a cradle where you can just stick the device in, and it charges!

[@combin8or]

Contrary to most comments, I think it should have no screen at all. Only analog goodness, ADC, microcontroller/BTLE transceiver, battery, and charge port. That way, you get all the data displayed on a phone or whatever, the battery lasts longer, and it might even be nicer to handle.

[@braddeleon6118]

Any improvements with the firmware updates in the past couple of years? Owners, what is your opinion after some time with them? Thanks

[@simontay4851]

If they can get capacitor ESR measurement working properly in a firmware update, i will buy one of these.

[@TravisPickle]

im gonna hold out til then, i was really wanting it for ESR

[@pagannova3621]

ya sold me on the ambidextrous ability..if i had a use for this item.

[@davidmcnash4295]

Wonder if you could make an adapter cable to allow the tweezer part to be used with a standard LCR meter (ie TRS to banana plugs)? That plus the ability to use the portable head could be attractive. I really hate the cheapo tweezer adapters.

[@jaro6985]

Definitely would be possible. If its TRRS then + lead, - lead, battery +, battery -, something like that.

[@EEVblog]

I'm sure you could, but you wouldn't pay that much for just the tweezers

[@PeetHobby]

But do any handheld LCR meters ever agree about the readings?

[@VorpalGun]

Why don't they just integrate a good LCR meter in a multimeter? Seems like there would be a market for it, and it would be convenient. With modern small ICs I can't imagine it would make the device much larger...

[@FurEngel]

I have a pair of the LCR tweezers from the Canadian company that makes them. But I wonder if I should get one of these for a backup?

[@jugularSignal]

For $70, I'd give it a whirl, but I'm paranoid, so I like to have a backup on all my stuff 😅

[@EEVblog]

I wouldn't bother. The SmartTweezers is better in almost every way.

[@Emerson1]

I use the SmartTweezers from Canadian company... very reliable

[@kintag4459]

Thank you M.r

[@userou-ig1ze]

is it useful to debug broken caps on a pcb? How bad a tool is it for that job, considering noob level experience?