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WARNING: One unit has been found to have been dangerously mis-wired:
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Dave reviews one of the cheapest hot air rework stations on the market, the Atten Instruments AT858D+ how does it stack up?
Also known as the Saike 858D+
Looks like it's designed for the Asian market only?
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@TheCod3r
@TheCod3r 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else being recommended this 9 years late 🤣
@saeidyazdani
@saeidyazdani 3 жыл бұрын
I just bough one ripoff version of this based on this video. 42€ delivered :) I have to open it up and see if it has similar construction
@stevenA44
@stevenA44 3 жыл бұрын
Did you get one already? From what I have seen about the knock-offs is that they have some wiring issues. The live (hot) isn't going through the fuse like it should. They have it wired (maybe not on all of them) so that the neutral is going through the fuse and that leaves a live going to the circuit and that could be dangerous. See this video to see where this guy took one apart and check it all out. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYHcaouPfKmgjbM I'm going to get one and I'm going to check it out and make sure it's safe before I use it. I bought a 937D+ soldering station and watch a similar video on it where someone took it apart and it too had issues, especially with the ground not being connected right. I fixed the slight issues with it and it is working great. I just wished I could switch the temp to F instead of C.
@Kristoferroz
@Kristoferroz 3 жыл бұрын
haha, I am using it from over a year time, just wanted to find a review to recommend it to friend of mine.
@neayt9952
@neayt9952 2 жыл бұрын
Nope 11 years
@eliasbasri5832
@eliasbasri5832 9 ай бұрын
Nope 12 years
@randomkitty2555
@randomkitty2555 6 жыл бұрын
"How tough are you" "How tough am ?! I removed an IC chip" "So" "Using a soldering iron" "My apologies, you may enter"
@geovani60624
@geovani60624 4 жыл бұрын
i've done it multiple times when I had no soldering station xD
@WWFYMN
@WWFYMN Ай бұрын
you gotta be tough when you are a poor student.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 13 жыл бұрын
@leosedf Sure, if you are doing advanced professional reworking you'd get a proper pre-heater, advanced tips for the exact part you are removing, better airflow etc. But for general everyday use this unit is perfectly capable. That board in the video is fully lead free, worked just fine.
@lifecycled6218
@lifecycled6218 10 жыл бұрын
I have already commented on the ATTEN 8586. I had a faulty Dell D630 Laptop. Recently the device would freeze and give nasty vertical discoloured lines through out on Boot. Got quickly worse and worse, first failing after an hour of use. I read that the nVidia Graphics card is either faulty, or the Heat Sink is compromised or perhaps it needs a Reflow. Tried the clean and repaste on the Heat Sink. Not fixed. Applied the ATTEN 8586 Reflow after briefly testing it removing some SMD devices on a scrap board to get a feel for the capacity of the device. I used some old Hard Disk-Drive Discs to place a barrier around the nVidia chip and gave it a buzz at near full heat for about 70 seconds. Allowed to cool and I am fixed. This was a dramatic change from near useless Dell to fully working. Thanks EEV for excellent tips on the Reflow process. You have upgraded my old Weller soldering skills developed on Playmaster amplifier kits from the 70's!
@anil1svnit
@anil1svnit 7 жыл бұрын
I know its Too late . But at 9:25 the butchered part are screw holds of the fan. they were removed to make it fit.
@stanburton6224
@stanburton6224 4 жыл бұрын
Were it me, i probably would have taken some adhesive foil tape and covered the holes.
@anil1svnit
@anil1svnit 4 жыл бұрын
@@stanburton6224 Yeah, I am not saying I did it. Just saying they did it that way. Where it up to me too I would have got proper BOM part or in fact remolded the gun as this is an additional step that can cause issues and loss of part (destroyed fan etc). Also I did buy this Hot air station, am a hobbyist so do not use it as often as a professional will. but till now it has been working fine. It has seen over 15 hours of overall usage in 3 years by me.
@lefteristhebuilder6159
@lefteristhebuilder6159 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a cheap Yihua 858D rework station and had to change the fan. Mine didn't have screw holds or butchered parts. I don't know why but I couldn't find the same so I bought a generic blower and used my dremel aswell...
@slap_my_hand
@slap_my_hand 7 жыл бұрын
Louis Rossmann should try to do a board repair with this.
@chiil034
@chiil034 5 жыл бұрын
I just purchased a variant of this one.... but yes, if Louis did a review, that would be great. For most hobbyists like myself, I can't justify spending $700+ on air and iron workstations.
@GeorgeGeorge-xj2bc
@GeorgeGeorge-xj2bc 5 жыл бұрын
Personally i spent 1500+ today euro/dollars in the year 1997 to buy a weller station for solder sucking and hot air pencil.And took separately for 250 euro the adjustable soldering iron itself.
@BillAnt
@BillAnt 5 жыл бұрын
I have the Yihua 858D version, in fact got two of them for a total of $100 bucks (it was cheap enough to have a spare;) There are two issue I've noticed with these devices. One, when changing temperature often, it's inconvenient holding the digital button down till it reaches the desired number. They should have used the same analog knob like for the fan speed (but still connected to the digital readout). Two, the Reed switch is only on one side of the handle, so if you lay it back the wrong way it won't turn the heater off. Other than that, they work like a champ.
@stanburton6224
@stanburton6224 4 жыл бұрын
It is quite funny to compare this review with the Yihua $16 Hakko clone soldering station review. Dave, i love ya brother, but you do need to step back a bit and remember that not everybody has the money to spend on high quality tools and test equipment. Some of us have this bad addiction to eating. Im actually quite pleased how much more forgiving you were in this review, compared to the soldering station one.
@Afrotechmods
@Afrotechmods 13 жыл бұрын
Nice teardown!
@RR2BOX46
@RR2BOX46 4 жыл бұрын
Louis Rossman is screaming - USE MOAR FLUX!
@jeriellsworth
@jeriellsworth 13 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I like how the unit can turn on when you pull the hand off the holder. What if you forget to turn the main unit off and the wand falls off the holder while unattended?
@ElderAEShelton
@ElderAEShelton 3 жыл бұрын
Call fire marshal Bill
@irishguy200007
@irishguy200007 3 жыл бұрын
Simply turn off maintain switch always once not in use. Never rely on sensors.
@mirkomueller3412
@mirkomueller3412 8 жыл бұрын
Now you get these for less than 30 Bucks on Ebay - Shipping Free !!! - what a bargain! Ordered mine immediately !!!
@koyaanisqatsiuk
@koyaanisqatsiuk 9 жыл бұрын
It's worth checking the connection from the earth wire of the mains cable goes anywhere since NONE of the ones that I have seen that are appearing in the UK have had any connection to the front, rear, and enclose metalwork. They all failed PAT testing and had to be modified with separate bonded earthing added.
@AmirKhan-qx2lr
@AmirKhan-qx2lr 9 жыл бұрын
Can you give details on how to do this please?
@koyaanisqatsiuk
@koyaanisqatsiuk 9 жыл бұрын
Amir Khan In all honesty if you do not know how to do this modification without being told how then this is NOT a modification you should even consider attempting as your life may depend on you getting it correct The modification requires that you have a working knowledge of basic electronic safety and can use test meters to measure and check earth continutity. If you don't have this knowledge then DO NOT ATTEMPT ANY WORK ON ANY MAINS POWER CABLING.
@koyaanisqatsiuk
@koyaanisqatsiuk 9 жыл бұрын
koyaanisqatsiuk There was another reply which NOW appears to have now been removed but to comment on that, this modification does NOT involve the moving of a wire from the fuse holder IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER!!!. The earth modification does not involve the fuse holder - period.
@AmirKhan-qx2lr
@AmirKhan-qx2lr 9 жыл бұрын
koyaanisqatsiuk what?... "It's worth checking the connection from the earth wire of the mains cable goes anywhere since NONE of the ones that I have seen that are appearing in the UK have had any connection to the front, rear, and enclose metalwork." LOL...well i'll just follow that video, he does the fuse mod AND the earth mod.
@koyaanisqatsiuk
@koyaanisqatsiuk 9 жыл бұрын
Amir Khan That is your choice but I merely pointed out that every one of these I have had pass through my hands has had NO earth connection from the IEC to ANY exposed (ie case/front/etc) metal work. I have come across none of the mains 'live wire' mis-wirings mentioned, only missing safety earth wiring. That is why I was commissioned by a UK importer to see that all of these were modified and then tested to comply with UK PAT recommendations afterwards. Before then, NONE of them passed as there were no earth connections to the case - a legal UK requirement.
@DrCrazyAzz
@DrCrazyAzz 5 жыл бұрын
Just used one to replace a HDMI port on a PS4. Great unit! Great video!
@Random_4400
@Random_4400 Жыл бұрын
funny how you can now get this for as low as 20$ 🤣
@lemagreengreen
@lemagreengreen 8 ай бұрын
It is improved these days too, or maybe just endlessly cloned but all the '858' hot air stations seem to have a removable hand piece now.
@CyberlightFG
@CyberlightFG 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your review. Still available in 2018. I would never have bought anything for that price even for hobby use. You saved me a lot of money. If someone is buying this, too: There is something to do before plugging it in in this price range. Make sure, everything is grounded and all connections are tight. And always replace the mains fuse. Just do your own quality control.
@josverstraten4133
@josverstraten4133 3 жыл бұрын
Read my extensive test of the 858D hot air station: chinese-electronics-products-tested.blogspot.com/p/858d-hot-air-station-tested.html
@rx1834
@rx1834 2 жыл бұрын
Nice website, that is very impressive work.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 13 жыл бұрын
@netcore2k I just added a link the the main Chinese Atten site which has it when you search, so genuine product, but possibly designed for the Asian market only? The English link takes you to the attenelectronics site which does not list it.
@enginerdy
@enginerdy 13 жыл бұрын
Pro tip: put something down with a high heat resistance, or something that will indicate before it starts scorching (like heavy poster paper). After I got a brand new ESD workbench, the first thing I did was blister the surface while trying to remove a big SMD linear regulator with hot air. Not a huge deal, but wasn't super happy about it!
@MintyLoveDMT
@MintyLoveDMT 3 жыл бұрын
What a truly lovely channel and a brilliantly light hearted and yet devastatingly informative video. Watching this hyped me with enough confidence buy one and have a go at fixing both my own and my good lady Wife's tablets (dodgy card reader and faulty USB socket). Result - two working, good-as-new tablets and exactly like you say - Bob's your Uncle! I know this video was published ages ago, but it's still very relevant. Many thanks!
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 13 жыл бұрын
@enginerdy The ESD mat I'm using is a special one that can survive high temperature and direct soldering iron contact.
@ArnoWelzel
@ArnoWelzel 9 ай бұрын
Meanwhile there is an improved version - the Atten 8800D. 800 watts and an LCD with an indicator how much power the heater draws. The air speed is set using a jog dial and you can store three profiles with heat and air speed together. In fact the same features like "big" stations just in a smaller form factor and the same hand piece as the old 885D.
@chrilla1980
@chrilla1980 11 жыл бұрын
Yes it will remove the GPU without problems as i have done it on around 4 with this rework station alread.You actually don´t have to use that nozzle to remove the GPU at all but if you have a stand and a nozzle it might be easier depending on how much experience you have had earlier.Just don´t forget to preheat the board.Temp is kind of hard to say because i am assuming you would use some kind of preheater first but without a nozzle 3-310degrees celsius is fine.Send me a pm if you want more info
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 13 жыл бұрын
@fourier2020 Yeah, I something clearly needed trimming off on either side. Maybe mounting supports or something? Cheaper to do that than order a custom version without the extra bits?
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 13 жыл бұрын
@netcore2k Yeah, not sure what the deal is with the model not being on their site, they only have the older Hakko look-alike units. I now note it only seems to be sold in 240V version? Latest PDF catalog on their site appears to be 2009?
@gtperez1050
@gtperez1050 10 жыл бұрын
Though this is not a item I am looking into purchasing, just listening to Dave give details about it makes me feel more educated and aware of what to look for on another device. Thanks Dave, you make a difference in this world.
@GarryMobi
@GarryMobi 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review ... I'm starting to get into some SMD development and checked into affordable hobby-quality devices ... the 858 seems to be available under at least half a dozen brand names, at least on Amazon.de as well as on the typical Chinese online stores ... assume they are pretty much identical ...
@theguvnor2081
@theguvnor2081 7 жыл бұрын
YOUYUE 858D+ cost me $40 on eBay. Would have been OK if the metal chassis had been earthed.
@slavric
@slavric 10 жыл бұрын
I own one of theese. It works really great and it can be compared to higher priced brands. I actually love the handle with built in fan. It is simple, lightweight and very useful. The noise is low, It doesn't bother me when I'm using it. Definitely worth buying.
@dumle29
@dumle29 12 жыл бұрын
How long have you had it running?
@fredcooper5236
@fredcooper5236 2 жыл бұрын
...... Bought one!!! Just a tiny 'heads-up' , with mine, the handle earth lead, ( around 8:15 in the video } was just stuffed up the sleeve, & the bare wire was wedged in between the metal sleeve, and the elements mica insulation!! just pull it, & the earth lead comes out!!! Yours looks the same, Dave.. On a cold ohm check, the metal sleeve reads grounded, but, its only held in by friction. . I secured mine onto the sleeve with a small nut bolt. Hope that's useful, Guys!!
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 13 жыл бұрын
@LinuxGalore They have dropped in price on ebay since I bought it over a month ago. I have not seen on one that cheap. What about postage to Auastralia?
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 13 жыл бұрын
@lordchavo I would get too excited about a cheap soldering iron combo. Tips can be problematic. Much better off getting an $80 Hakko, and more versatile with two separate units.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 13 жыл бұрын
@jeriellsworth Good point. Same thing with a soldering iron too, but I guess they are usually better supported in the holder. These things I only tend to leave on when actually using them, which isn't very often. YMMV.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 13 жыл бұрын
@detectiveinspekta Those attachments are nice, but you need one for every size device you work with. You can also get similar attachments for soldering irons.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 13 жыл бұрын
@fivefishdiy Can't add links here, but google Okay ESD Mat
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 13 жыл бұрын
@fivefishdiy Can't add links here, but google Okay ESD Mat
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 13 жыл бұрын
@fivefishdiy Can't add links here, but google Okay ESD Mat
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 13 жыл бұрын
@joshstube Just buy the proper 120V version under a different brand, link in the text.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 13 жыл бұрын
@Bracerjack The chips are designed to survive a certain temperature for a certain time. So they usually survive. Really not much different to reflow soldering temps.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 13 жыл бұрын
@Wolfcritic64 It doesn't feel big at all, and is easy to use IMO. YMMV
@l3chevalier
@l3chevalier 6 жыл бұрын
Funny enough...none of the components of the hot air station board are SMD! XD
@Andybaby
@Andybaby 10 жыл бұрын
Q: Does this mean Atten is a MUCH better brand than a Yihua? - ie considering how unimpressed Dave was with Yihua's 936 'imitation Hakko'?
@vaffangool9196
@vaffangool9196 10 жыл бұрын
*I've just been* researching this product. Atten, Dingke, Saike, Scotle, W.E.P., and Yihua all sell identical products called 858D+. *So as far* as _this model_ is concerned, there is no difference in quality-the Yihua- and Atten units are identical. *Edit:* ASA, Ansai, BiDiKe, Bozan, Gaoyue, Handskit, Hanba, Huayu, JY, JFTOOIS, LK, Quick, SET, SKD, Senuo, Sugon, Sunkko, TNI, Taiko, Tian Mu, XHX, and Youyue also sell identical 858D+ product. It's like everyone who works at the factory gets his own faceplate.
@SONOFAZOMBIE2025
@SONOFAZOMBIE2025 9 жыл бұрын
Vaff angool lol. OMG "Yeee Haaar" strikes again. This one also needed to be punished. It was like a rocking chair sitting on the flat table. UNBELIEVABLE!
@Namejjvkkr
@Namejjvkkr 9 жыл бұрын
Vaff angool The end of your comment just made my entire day! How did you find all of those brands? Just by looking at station after station after station on ebay?
@vaffangool9196
@vaffangool9196 9 жыл бұрын
Patrik Carlsson *Nuh-uh.* At first, I was just looking for the cheapest price on the Yihua unit and happened upon some Chinese-language wholesalers' listing of five- or six vendors, including the common eBay brands. *Later,* as I was commenting on this video, I went back and copy-pasted _all_ of the previous results into (what I assumed to be) the search box, whereupon it regurgitated page after page of ostensible manufacturers offering identical Model 858D+ rework stations. *I've flushed* my history since then-otherwise I'd find the URL for you. I'm afraid didn't anticipate any use for a bookmark.
@colinyuan5404
@colinyuan5404 9 жыл бұрын
+Andybaby as a Chinese engineer, Atten is MUCH better than Yihua, because i never heard Yihua before seeing Dave's video. for hot-air station, if you don't care much about price, buy a good and expensive one; or Chinese brands are always your best choice.
@pH03N1xM
@pH03N1xM 12 жыл бұрын
Those holes on the fan are not for air/pressure related stuff: they just simply chopped the original holder parts of the fan (it had two plastic tabs with holes to secure the fan) and simply did a bad job. Nice little stuff, anyway, thanks for the review!
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 13 жыл бұрын
@randomgarfield Yeah, the big bench units with the pumps are pretty darn loud, really quite annoying in a quiet lab.
@Dan-TechAndMusic
@Dan-TechAndMusic 6 жыл бұрын
I got one €30 shipped from Germany to the Netherlands, which meant fast shipping. I mean, for that little money, can one _really_ complain?
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 13 жыл бұрын
@leosedf Yes. As always, it's horses for courses. You trade off some thermal capacity for lower noise, cost, and portability.
@sleary7878
@sleary7878 8 жыл бұрын
I got one of these in 2011 and its still going.
@LordAnubis0909
@LordAnubis0909 8 жыл бұрын
ty. just looking to get one :)
@TomaszWota
@TomaszWota 8 жыл бұрын
Chech out the description.
@DrakkarCalethiel
@DrakkarCalethiel 7 жыл бұрын
Where did you buy it. Seems decent for home use.
@DrakkarCalethiel
@DrakkarCalethiel 7 жыл бұрын
GG64du02 Since I'm from Austria that would be great. Thanks let's see if there's one on ebay.
@xflow79
@xflow79 7 жыл бұрын
Try this one amzn.to/2nQ1AYG got also a soldering iron on board.
@MinisterPrimus
@MinisterPrimus 12 жыл бұрын
Hi, Dave! Is the 858D still functioning 1 year since the review?
@Petertronic
@Petertronic 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this after buying an almost identical unit in 2022
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 13 жыл бұрын
@Artemisgoldfish Yeah, I can imagine the heater life would be improved if you let it cool down slowly.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 13 жыл бұрын
@dazaro3 Yeah, as usual it looks like I bought in too early! Had it for a month or so. $55 is crazy cheap.
@gamerpaddy
@gamerpaddy 8 жыл бұрын
just got the atten 852d, first thing i do is measuring conductivity between plug and iron/airgun. it was like 55 euros new.
@1kuhny
@1kuhny 8 жыл бұрын
now you can get a soldering station AND a hot air station in one unit for $60
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 13 жыл бұрын
@Shaunakde You can buy them in my EEVblog Merch store on my site.
@technochow
@technochow 10 жыл бұрын
Nice Review am planning to be Part of the game i have a few Videos i make. but i didn't have 858D yet thanks for the review
@ianmacdonald6350
@ianmacdonald6350 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is an excellent tool from China, for a very reasonable price. Couple of points I'd note is that mine was way off cal at the low end, being more like 150C when set to 100C. This can matter when you're heat-shrinking as other plastic can be melted. Other thing is, there doesn't appear to be any overheat cutout, so things could get a mite hazardous (like, hot enough to set fire to something) if the temp controller were to fail. Therefore I'd advise not leaving it switched on unattended. I was wondering about fitting a thermal fuse.
@BillAnt
@BillAnt 5 жыл бұрын
I have the Yihua 858D version, in fact got two of them for a total of $100 bucks (it was cheap enough to have a spare;) There are two issue I've noticed with these devices. One, when changing temperature often, it's inconvenient holding the digital button down till it reaches the desired number. They should have used the same analog knob like for the fan speed (but still connected to the digital readout). Two, the Reed switch is only on one side of the handle, so if you lay it back the wrong way it won't turn the heater off. Other than that, they work like a champ.
@serdar-ors
@serdar-ors Жыл бұрын
do u use for professional work. i am not sure i need quick 861w or yihua 959d+ . i will use for hobby for smd generally.
@BillAnt
@BillAnt Жыл бұрын
@@serdar-ors - I use it at my phone repair shop, that's why I got two to have a backup. For hobby use anything should work for you.
@serdar-ors
@serdar-ors Жыл бұрын
@@BillAnt if u use for phone repair, it is already sufficient for hobby. I thought it maybe not enough for big soldered chips or big mainboards.
@BillAnt
@BillAnt Жыл бұрын
​@@serdar-ors - It's fine for most jobs using different nozzles. the temperature range is from 100-500 C with plenty of air blowing (also adjustable).
@dazaro3
@dazaro3 13 жыл бұрын
Hi Cool video ,i can buy this on Ebay for £36 that's only $55 Australian Dollars ! and that's delivered to my door. What a bargain.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 13 жыл бұрын
@lordchavo The Saike 858D+ has a 110V version.
@NaokisRC
@NaokisRC 10 жыл бұрын
I have a proper BGA rework station but sometimes these smaller things just work better as you don't have to protect the other components and it's not such a hassle to setup
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 13 жыл бұрын
@yanava That's because it is the same board...
@nguyenvanduongchannel9719
@nguyenvanduongchannel9719 2 жыл бұрын
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@ronchinoy
@ronchinoy 4 жыл бұрын
I got the Indian Version of this for like 50$ USD. That 10K trim pot will fail in a few months. Replace it with a quality 10 turn pot and have finer control on the airflow.
@LePianisteMasque
@LePianisteMasque 13 жыл бұрын
I just received mine. I am really happy with it. I was able to remove small smd and big ones with many legs (more than 80 for the bigest i tried). Impresive. Some months ago I tried the same with a iron, a pump... Without success. I tried with desoldering "wire" and it was ok but quite difficult. With this air gun, it was very easy ! REALLY EASY ! So thank you again for this review Dave. ;-)
@RespawnRestricted
@RespawnRestricted 5 жыл бұрын
How come when you take apart something you bought you don't talk massive shit on every tiny lol thing like when you open up other stuff lmao
@xxDrain
@xxDrain 5 жыл бұрын
Aliexpress is full of knock-offs of this model. Not manufactured by Atten but look exactly the same. Anyone got one of those?
@mikaras
@mikaras 5 жыл бұрын
I just bought one of these. I wonder how it would fare in a eevblog review today. @eevblog you should do re-reviews.
@voltare2amstereo
@voltare2amstereo 12 жыл бұрын
the two holes are because the fan would have had screw down wings and they've just taken those off to make the fan fit. .
@surgingcircuits6955
@surgingcircuits6955 7 жыл бұрын
www.dropbox.com/s/wwgqoj06jl1plhs/SMD%20Tool%20Maybe.png?dl=0 Just received one of these 858D units. Verified ground is good. But, it came with a little too that I think must be for SMD removal or reflow - but, not sure. So, humbly including a link above to see if some can tell me what it is (for). Thanks!
@bert2192
@bert2192 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks :) Bought one now because of the review ...
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 13 жыл бұрын
@axel1973w Ah, it's designed to do that...
@Swenser
@Swenser 4 жыл бұрын
She'a awright big maxxy. I've had mine awhile. Full power. 500c Mid way air flow for everything i do. One setting fixes all. Go for it.
@monkeytrident
@monkeytrident Жыл бұрын
@EEVblog Awesome video very informative keep up the good work, do you know of any device like this which includes a soldering iron with control variable, I will be using it for wires and lights for rc hobby.
@a68k_de
@a68k_de 3 жыл бұрын
just bought this Hot Air, 30 Euro in 2021 absolut ok for hobby
@PinBallReviewerRepairs
@PinBallReviewerRepairs 12 жыл бұрын
I need to stop watching these vlogs. xD I keep seeing things I want but don't have a lot of money to get them. Eventually I will get all this lab stuff.;)
@michaelgamble296
@michaelgamble296 6 жыл бұрын
Watching them is Free Great Entertainment!!
@mullaccount4015
@mullaccount4015 6 ай бұрын
Very nice Video. Although it's quiet aged, it has all information i needed. Moreover the information regarding false wiring is essential for me. I ordered one this morning and i will check all wires. Thank's
@guitarvalvo
@guitarvalvo 10 жыл бұрын
I bought the Tenma hot air rework station, which is supposed to be identical to the one in this video. It's a POS and doesn't work. once the desired temperature is reached, the unit freaks out and makes my lights flicker. The airflow is low. At high temperatures, the plastic will melt and smoke from the top. total waste of money.
@billypreston12
@billypreston12 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like the blower housing on the handheld unit is broken, you showed it quick then cut the video, you’ll have to patch that broken area with RTV sealant or something, poor quality control:) Old video but still a good one, thanks for sharing.
@jimngugk4741
@jimngugk4741 3 жыл бұрын
I got one of this just arrive not long time ago , but the air flow cannot be controlled , mine was 850D+ , and there is no SLP show up too after I place it back on the holder , just show - - - thats it , looks like I got the faulty unit .......
@Greywolf74
@Greywolf74 10 жыл бұрын
I have a W.E.P. 2008D which is just another Chinese clone thats very very similar to that one...It works great for no more than I use it. :) I dont believe mine has the holes in the blower fan.
@bcastromusic
@bcastromusic 4 жыл бұрын
They still sell the 858's under dozens of different names.. check amazon.. they're $50US. They even come with decent quality solder sucker, tweezers, and cutters. In fact the current generation we have branded Toolour & Noevsbig are better than what Dave has here. They have double-sided FR4 boards and use ATmega8a's. They're well designed inside an use lot of insulated sleeving and good connectors. Also, the fan is not botched it fits properly. They work good for most stuff. I end up using mine more than my expensive Pace unit just because it's easy to use.
@Aeduo
@Aeduo 13 жыл бұрын
Should I be worried about the high heat damaging components that need to be taken off but still might be good, or even neighboring components?
@anthonydacko51
@anthonydacko51 13 жыл бұрын
People wanting a 110 Volt version can order the SAIKE 858D+ SMD Hot Air Rework Station Solder 110V 700W. Look on the USA ebay site.
@untrust2033
@untrust2033 4 жыл бұрын
I found a clone of this (exact same except for brand name) on eBay for £25 (Great British Pound). Should I get it? The images for the listing were very crusty and had lots of plastered on emojis
@megasmart1337
@megasmart1337 13 жыл бұрын
nice:D
@IvanPradofodera
@IvanPradofodera 8 жыл бұрын
helo i am brazi, hello friends ask help guys if anyone had a similar case. when I turn on the station, will regulate and the resistance looking into the tube gets reddish, portato is heating up, but after reaching the temperature on the display it flashes the point and vjo she purges and sometimes gets all cleared, but I feel it's hot, I can not drop Components with it since I bought it is and it's a couple of years, wanted to know if the guys when set temperature it keeps red and not off, or if anyone has any tips or link trying to fix, thank you thank you!
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@תתתתתתתתתתתתתתתתתתתתתתתתתת-ט3ד 5 жыл бұрын
you serious? that thing doesn't worth that much! in fact it is much cheaper! around 120RMB from taobao.com
@Satchmoeddie
@Satchmoeddie 12 жыл бұрын
Wow $50 US, but shipping is probably more. $50 is disposable! Will the hood nozzles fit on this? My shop has 120 and 240 VAC single phase, but had I got a house 100 yards north I'd have 3 phase. These don't come in 120 VAC. Not so far as I have seen! I am guessing that the 220 VAC allows use of less copper in supply wiring. Who knows what the deal is. I'd have to lop off the plug and put a NEMA USA 240 volt plug on it. That also uses limited outlet space for the 240 that is on my bench.
@Satchmoeddie
@Satchmoeddie 12 жыл бұрын
So that is like $129 US Dollars? By the end of next month $179 USD? Would forced air over some surplus toaster elements, and a temp sensor work? You'd be surprised at the work I have seen done with irons. Now for the best questions: Can you replace the heating element? Is the temp accurate? You can drop a few thousand dollars on a good SMD air / tweezer-pencil, and vacuum. rework station
@LePianisteMasque
@LePianisteMasque 13 жыл бұрын
@MetalPhreakAU : I agree. Finding the right power cord will not be a problem at all. The only issue is the "hot air gun". If it breaks soldering a new one to the board should not be a big problem but... good luck to find it ! :-( I saw another station using the same gun but its one had a connector. If shit happens, it will be the occasion to add a female connector to the 858D+ before buying this new part.
@videofreakcologne
@videofreakcologne 8 жыл бұрын
Now i have too this, well a clone, solder station :) Take it apart to check if somthing wrong with the Ground Connection etc.... was AOK and did my first go with Hot Air deSolder with ah Dimm Ram module....it worked wonderful, but im a newbie in soldering and not really sure how mutch heat the IC and PCB can Take without damage. Ife seen how PCB's got soldered in a Reflow oven .... i think the heat is OK but the IC and PCB was Reaaaaly Hot but touchable afte few seconds..... Is there a rough rule of thumb ?
@hhdago
@hhdago 13 жыл бұрын
I already scrolled to the comment box after you popped the first two chips off with a screwdriver(?) but then decided to watch the end first. Tweezers are much better if you plan to use either the component (you can pull them off vertically instead of lifting them from one side) or the board (slip with the screwdriver, scratch through a trace) afterwards.
@technoguy3542
@technoguy3542 13 жыл бұрын
Why would you ever need a soldering iron if this hot air gun can melt solder?
@telmobrandao5062
@telmobrandao5062 8 жыл бұрын
I've bought a HUAYU H898+, rework station, Which looks basically the same, and the soldering on the pcb his absolutely awful, even some of the plastic connectors were burnt !! I wish i could show you the pictures,
@pierpa_76pierpaolo
@pierpa_76pierpaolo 5 жыл бұрын
I also bought this mini hot air station a few months ago and it has never been used before. I turn on and starting clearly from the minimum I immediately see smoke .... . The little fan they inserted really sucks and then as well as it is unusable . Wow and now how do I desolder the smd components?
@JosefdeJoanelli
@JosefdeJoanelli 13 жыл бұрын
just bought one of these on eBay for 99 cents lol but 58 bucks postage so its not quite like I robbed them so much. hopefully its the real deal. I also love that t shirt, did u get that custom screened urself or did u actually find it somewhere for sale?
@BersekViking
@BersekViking 13 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure about the safety of that thing. It seems to have a 220v heater, and is rated at 700W. That make it use 3A! Now look how thin the wires are in the tool (when Dave removes the fan), and how poorly the 220v is separated from the low voltage parts!
@KozmykJ
@KozmykJ 13 жыл бұрын
@Knaeckebrotsaege But you can't tell by looking at a video. I've come across stuff, securing components, that 'looked' like hot glue only to find that it was rubbery and wouldn't melt, most likely silicone rubber compound.
@Darieee
@Darieee 6 жыл бұрын
I got a combo one, hot air and soldering iron in one ... late 2017 ... seems quite a timeless design
@ryujiyamazaki583
@ryujiyamazaki583 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review and loved the way how you made the video. Keep the job bro ;-)
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