Eevee Vs Cycles in Blender 2.8 - Which is best?

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@loop5720
@loop5720 4 жыл бұрын
Eevee looks like the actual game's gameplay, while Cycles look like the game's cinematic trailer
@_valued_4479
@_valued_4479 4 жыл бұрын
fr
@AndersonChan
@AndersonChan 4 жыл бұрын
Loop that’s probably exactly what they do
@kappa4153
@kappa4153 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@denierdev9723
@denierdev9723 3 жыл бұрын
There's a reason for that...
@David_Logr
@David_Logr 3 жыл бұрын
because that's basically the difference between the two renderers. (rasterization vs path tracing)
@caldercockatoo2234
@caldercockatoo2234 4 жыл бұрын
Eevee: Faster rendering but less accurate lighting. Cycles: Slower rendering but more accurate lighting + extra features.
@ipga13
@ipga13 3 жыл бұрын
eevee: makes my pc hot cycles: makes my pc liquid
@hashirabdullah8291
@hashirabdullah8291 3 жыл бұрын
When i render in 8k or 4k in cycle it took too long and give noice how i solve it
@gigiharungbumi9249
@gigiharungbumi9249 3 жыл бұрын
@@hashirabdullah8291 there is denoise feature. cmiiw
@PewshiX
@PewshiX 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to export my first project, i tried cycles and i have to wait one hour! I cancelled and changed to evee it took my a couple of seconds, I know cycle is better but my pc weak asf
@caldercockatoo2234
@caldercockatoo2234 2 жыл бұрын
@@PewshiX Were you using Cycles or Cycles X? Because apparently X is faster.
@TheAndrejP
@TheAndrejP 5 жыл бұрын
Eevee is also great if you're using Blender as a modeling tool for game assets for example, it's close to what you'll get from the game engine anyway since any real time engine will be using similar tricks to fake global illumination, transparency, shadows etc.
@OllAxe
@OllAxe 4 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly! Eevee uses rasterization to cheat realism, just like games do, while Cycles uses path-tracing to simulate realism
@denierdev9723
@denierdev9723 3 жыл бұрын
@@OllAxe certain games, not all games in general
@OllAxe
@OllAxe 3 жыл бұрын
@@denierdev9723 I didn't say "all games". It was a generalization. Nearly all modern 3D games use rasterization because it's very fast and it's what modern GPUs are optimized for. Even RTX-games use rasterization as part of their rendering pipeline, because path-tracing a scene in real-time on consumer hardware with reasonable speed and quality is still unrealistic (even on the most high-end RTX cards), though combining noisy ray-traced lighting data with rasterized rendering methods and a good denoiser can get very close
@denierdev9723
@denierdev9723 3 жыл бұрын
@@OllAxe Could you give examples of such games?
@OllAxe
@OllAxe 3 жыл бұрын
@@denierdev9723 I can, but I don't really see the point, since rasterization is the foundation of real-time 3D computer graphics. Instead, check out the first 20-30 minutes or so of nvidias RTX launch event, which has some great info on rasterization vs ray-tracing and how RTX implements a hybrid of the two. I also know there's a presentation from DICE about the rendering pipeline of Battlefield V and their implementation of RTX. There's an example! Some more if you need them are Minecraft, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Portal 2, any game made in a commercial game engine such as Unity or Unreal, I could go on for a ridiculous amount of time. Even Teardown uses rasterization as part of its rendering pipeline, a game with its very own non-RTX ray-tracing implementation. Either way, there probably are some very specific games that don't use rasterization for one reason or another (simple ray-tracing demos or games that implement non-euclidian geometry for example) but they're the exception and that's my point. Not utilizing rasterization in your real-time rendering pipeline is leaving preformance on the table, therefore all modern commercial games do, and RTX does too, as Jensen Huang states during the RTX launch event. And as someone who's studying advanced computer graphics and shader programming right now, I can with confidence that he's completely right.
@bopin1083
@bopin1083 4 жыл бұрын
Eevee: the video game Cycles: the video game movie remake
@ipga13
@ipga13 3 жыл бұрын
eevee: makes my pc hot cycles: makes my pc liquid
@jascrandom9855
@jascrandom9855 5 жыл бұрын
Cycles for the Theatrical Movie Eevee for the Tv Series.
@lucutes2936
@lucutes2936 4 жыл бұрын
wat
@PuudingMusic
@PuudingMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Eevee for The Flash and Supergirl XD
@super-awesome-funplanet3704
@super-awesome-funplanet3704 4 жыл бұрын
But Eevee looks worse than cycles so you should not use evee to render a Tv series.
@jascrandom9855
@jascrandom9855 4 жыл бұрын
@@super-awesome-funplanet3704 Tv-Series are time constrained compared to Theatrical movies. So Eevee's realtime rendering can same up so much time for better refining the animation.
@reezlaw
@reezlaw 4 жыл бұрын
@@PuudingMusic That's exactly what I thought hahaha
@middle-earthexplored3923
@middle-earthexplored3923 5 жыл бұрын
with some setup, such as baking indirect light, EEVEE can look really good, especially for interior renders
@digital0785
@digital0785 5 жыл бұрын
Yea if you know the limitations you can definitely work around it very easy.. i mean heck in their example of the light saber you could easily switch the lights for illuminating out of the hilt and such and make it look damn close. That's one of the biggest issues trying to go back and forth for some reason the lighting dont transfer over brightness wise but these are all easy fixes. As far as volumetric i feel like thats kinda a bold face lie i did a fly through with eevee with motion blur depth of field and moving noise mapped volumetrics. And it took 9 seconds per frame. If cycles could do that eevee wouldnt exist.
@csmemarketing
@csmemarketing 5 жыл бұрын
You're quite correct. Most of the time is in the lighting setup for EEVEE. When that's done, I find the renders come out good. I find EEVEE is very good for product design.
@YegorSmirnov
@YegorSmirnov 5 жыл бұрын
Guys, you had Cuda not working:) Gpu is greyed out. Cycles renders this kind of scene lightning fast, actually.
@SalvatoSC
@SalvatoSC 5 жыл бұрын
Up to top you go
@FlippedNormals
@FlippedNormals 5 жыл бұрын
It's because we have issues recording videos at the same time as using Cycles with the GPU. It's a lot faster with the GPU for sure!
@bakedbeings
@bakedbeings 5 жыл бұрын
FlippedNormals The Optix denoiser (via a free blender plugin) can do a pretty strong job on the noise, something which was maybe hammered on a bit in the video. I feel like young artists are going to have a pretty exaggerated impression of Evee’s advantages vs cycles’ offering of gpu accelerated offline renderer easily paired with ai denoiser.
@HAWXLEADER
@HAWXLEADER 5 жыл бұрын
@@bakedbeings Optix is really bad compared to the Intel Denoiser node in blender 2.81 Intel's is way faster and cleaner looking with sharper textures. You've gotta try it! (Don't forget to enable Denoising data in the compositing settings and plug it into the node)
@lucutes2936
@lucutes2936 4 жыл бұрын
tf u talking about
@krysidian
@krysidian 5 жыл бұрын
I love using eevee when doing things like animation and previews since it just so fast! Eevee is also perfect for things like NPR because of the functionality of the Shader to RGB node. When I want to make a single scene, I mostly use cycles for realism and refined details. I agree, it always depends. Both render engines really compliment each other.
@FlippedNormals
@FlippedNormals 5 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed! It's not about which is the best - but rather which one is best for the specific tasks. They are both great.
@krysidian
@krysidian 5 жыл бұрын
@@FlippedNormals I'm so glad that they made almost all the materials etc. universal for both engines since that always used to be a problem with the blender internal engine. Now we can always switch inbetween!
@angeld7849
@angeld7849 3 жыл бұрын
There's no any "what is better?" Both are useful!
@ipga13
@ipga13 3 жыл бұрын
cycles especially as an alternative to a space heater concidering my pc will be dying
@AyushBakshi
@AyushBakshi 5 жыл бұрын
I don't even use Blender (been a Max,Maya guy).. But still watching coz I find this channel informative. I like your production centered views. Keep up!
@Nova-sama420
@Nova-sama420 5 жыл бұрын
same but the other way around, i use only Blender and watch those zbrush, maya videos
@FlippedNormals
@FlippedNormals 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! We really appreciate that.
@AyushBakshi
@AyushBakshi 5 жыл бұрын
@@Nova-sama420 🤣
@ArthurDalvig
@ArthurDalvig 5 жыл бұрын
I am not sure if I understood you guys right, but doing lookdev approximation in Eevee and switching over to another renderer later on is by no means the correct approach. You can perhaps do it for personal hobby projects if you don't care about realism, but once you enter a production environment or have to match realism, then you wouldn't want to switch between render engines. The differences in rasterization and path tracing are enormous and you would have to redo the majority of your shaders and ligthing from scratch. What initially seemed like a shortcut, would just come back and bite you in the butt in the other end. The lookdev should ALWAYS be done in the renderer you finalize your shot in. It doesn't matter if its Eevee or Cycles, but switching between them won't save you any time. Atleast not if you work towards a realistic look.
@GrianTalamonti
@GrianTalamonti 5 жыл бұрын
If you try the latest experimental build 2.81 volumes in Eevee are almost realtime. For me was a game changer. I still use cycles for a realistic render, I totally agree with everything said in the video.
@OutOfNamesToChoose
@OutOfNamesToChoose 5 жыл бұрын
How much of an improvement is 2.81 over 2.80? Is there any meaningful difference?
@GrianTalamonti
@GrianTalamonti 5 жыл бұрын
@@OutOfNamesToChoose think about 2.81 as the stable 2.80. It is just faster, if you ever had tiny problems, crashes, bugs and or lags in 2.80, well in 2.81 they're all probably gone forever.
@OutOfNamesToChoose
@OutOfNamesToChoose 5 жыл бұрын
@@GrianTalamonti That's fantastic news! I might go ahead and install it
@digital0785
@digital0785 5 жыл бұрын
@@GrianTalamonti ive been meaning to get get 2.81 for the new eevee stuff and the cycles denoiser may make me use eevee less which feels crazy even thinking that. A low-med sample denoised cycle render would probably work for many of my arch viz projects and take marginally longer than eevee and waaay quicker then vray in max which is what i normally use
@GrianTalamonti
@GrianTalamonti 5 жыл бұрын
@@digital0785 cycles denoiser is really awesome, it gives you a slight "artistic" look if it doesn't have enough samples, which can even be pleasant for some projects. Still eevee has unbeatable speed and you always have the option to bake light and reflections. In future would be awesome if we could have both eevee and cycles working simultaneously, kinda rtx style on unreal.
@xox8717
@xox8717 5 жыл бұрын
Well someone already have used Eevee for Production in the EMMYs twice , they rendered the Awards Motion graphic with it even when it was in Alpha version lol crasy people out there ;)
@mohamedharsha9344
@mohamedharsha9344 5 жыл бұрын
Any link?
@L7vanmatre
@L7vanmatre 5 жыл бұрын
Who?
@captainpawpawchannel
@captainpawpawchannel 5 жыл бұрын
it was used for the EMMY Awards background images: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5WpmYV8Z6eXrc0 www.blender.org/user-stories/emmys-house-looks/
@rbettsx
@rbettsx 5 жыл бұрын
Apart from anything else, you need a rasterising renderer in a general 3D application so you're not fighting a physically-based path-tracer and firing millions of rays around to achieve non-photorealistic effects. The EEVEE 'Shader to RGB' node is really important, to do things like half-toning, which would take all kinds of weird baking and multiple passes to do in Cycles. Don't forget NPR! Creativity doesn't stop at trying to simulate photography.
@aliancemd
@aliancemd 4 жыл бұрын
Blender 2.81 Eevee changes is almost everything about shadows :)
@lol-ws6po
@lol-ws6po 4 жыл бұрын
I made a fortnite thumbnail and it renders with Eevee because I got a low end pc and it crashes my blender but it's rendering stuff in purple
@loop5720
@loop5720 4 жыл бұрын
Is 2.81 Eevee really that good? I actually haven't seen that Blender update yet, so I don't know...
@softwarelivre2389
@softwarelivre2389 4 жыл бұрын
@@loop5720 not as good as Blender 2.83 LTS Eevee
@dissonanceparadiddle
@dissonanceparadiddle 4 жыл бұрын
@@softwarelivre2389 which is good news really
@klatchabobby
@klatchabobby 3 жыл бұрын
Still worse. I never, ever use Eevee. Everytime I switch to Eevee for fun after working in Cycles I cringe and thank my lucky stars I didn't use it from the start.
@Rossilaz58
@Rossilaz58 4 жыл бұрын
I rewatched your intro so many times... It's so satisfying!
@creedolala6918
@creedolala6918 5 жыл бұрын
Love your videos and you're great at explaining things. That said, I think you can do better than to just grab the last thing you happened to be working on, to demonstrate these differences. It's just one limited example, and a somewhat uncommon case (with that extreme neon glow). I would have liked to see a variety of scenes and surfaces. What does eevee skin look like vs. cycles skin with SSS? How about water and glass? Fog/mist/cloud/smoke? Could you get away with eevee for architectural renders? Rocky landscapes? Fabric?
@Imran7jr
@Imran7jr 4 жыл бұрын
*Eevee* : The Video Game *Cycles* : Trailer for the Video Game
@fivetopoint
@fivetopoint 3 жыл бұрын
stolen comment 👀
@droson8712
@droson8712 3 жыл бұрын
stolen comment 👀 xd
@angeld7849
@angeld7849 3 жыл бұрын
stolen comment 👀 xd xd
@gunwise7079
@gunwise7079 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your content!! Im really progressing in Blender and falling in love with it! You guys rock!
@FlippedNormals
@FlippedNormals 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers! Blender is amazing and we particularly love rendering in it.
@heddywood
@heddywood 4 жыл бұрын
you guys are peaceful to listen to and I thought to myself, hey these guys sound like they would make amazing podcasts to listen to while I work. To my delight I discovered you do indeed have one.
@FlippedNormals
@FlippedNormals 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Heddy!
@BlenderBurst
@BlenderBurst 5 жыл бұрын
CONGRATS ON 100K!
@FlippedNormals
@FlippedNormals 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :D
@MathiasJ89
@MathiasJ89 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with the Eevee for pre-viz and Cycles for production thing. So nice to just switch back and forth between them easily and get some quick feedback when doing textures, lighting etc. Am currently testing Eevee for a personal VFX project where I am making a background with DOF for a greenscreen scene, to see if I can save render time compared to a pathtracer engine. Early tests seem fine, but haven't comped it together yet.
@Asurilm
@Asurilm 2 жыл бұрын
I think (I'm still learning), that Eevee is also a good renderer if you're trying to go for a cartoony or plastic-y look.
@oby1
@oby1 5 жыл бұрын
Enable Contact shadows for Eevee, ad an irradiance box for light bounces, and maybe a cube map. - enable soft shaddows. you can get it to match the cycles renderer
@oby1
@oby1 5 жыл бұрын
also enable AO and Screenspace reflections yo?
@oby1
@oby1 5 жыл бұрын
holup... you guys did some of those.... but still missing sum refinements
@ricky107_
@ricky107_ 5 жыл бұрын
I just love the easy bloom option in eevee
@luna010
@luna010 4 жыл бұрын
you can do the same thing in the compositor , but yeah the bloom tick box in the render tab is useful.
@klatchabobby
@klatchabobby 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone using eevee would because they obviously don't care about actual compositing....
@ninthjake
@ninthjake 5 жыл бұрын
I modeled and shaded that exact lightsaber a couple of months ago for the purpose of trying out 2.8 and eevee. I was confused for a second because I was wondering how you got hold of my scene :P
@KillinSmallz
@KillinSmallz 5 жыл бұрын
Love your guy's videos. Love that you've been spending a lot of time talking about blender.
@FlippedNormals
@FlippedNormals 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@KillinSmallz
@KillinSmallz 5 жыл бұрын
@@FlippedNormals No thank you!
@watermalone1681
@watermalone1681 5 жыл бұрын
Seeing vray and octane having renderers available for blender I'd be interested to hear you guys talk about the rendering options available, contrasting and comparing different path traced renderers, and why someone might choose one or another.l I don't have much experience with renderers but Octane seems like a really attractive choice right now?
@gower1973
@gower1973 5 жыл бұрын
Diarmaid Malone luxcore render is better than cycles it does proper dispersion with caustics, I’ve being waiting to try it out with 2.8
@watermalone1681
@watermalone1681 5 жыл бұрын
@@gower1973 nice! It'd be an interesting comparison of luxcore Vs octane Vs vray Vs cycles in blender
@AnjarGaluh
@AnjarGaluh 5 жыл бұрын
@@watermalone1681 luxcore is way better and faster than cycles n octane in blender. But e-cycles is way faster than luxcore n octane.
@GaryParris
@GaryParris 5 жыл бұрын
@@gower1973 agreed i love luxcore its just been a bit slow, but i do enjoy cycles and EEVEE as well for different things, hopefully the linux luxcore for 2,8 arrives soon as they finish it, i'm still using 2.79 for luxcore..
@RuthwikRao
@RuthwikRao 5 жыл бұрын
I've talked to someone over at OTOY about the lack of videos on Octane for Blender and they promised they're gonna be making a small intro series soon :)
@blenderoffender9004
@blenderoffender9004 4 жыл бұрын
Can/should I use a combination of Cycles and Eevee layers in the compositor? Example: Volumetric clouds in Eevee are superfast. Rendered with a transparent background and used with an alpha over node?
@needthistool
@needthistool 3 жыл бұрын
If you're comfortable with compositing, using both engines for their strengths is pretty straightforward. I did this for a small project in 2.79 using Cycles and the default renderer. The same ought to be possible in 2.8+ with Eevee. The approach I used was the one described here: urchn.org/post/combining-blender-internal-and-cycles-in-one-render
@Ziiio
@Ziiio 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer cycles because it make things look cinematic. Idk, just my opinion.
@therealfilmnerd
@therealfilmnerd 2 жыл бұрын
Does a project exported with cycles take more storage?
@ogcontraband
@ogcontraband 4 жыл бұрын
I rendered my robots in their spaceship in eevee and wow it's way more crisp, less noise, reflections look flawless. I can't even believe, it was 10x faster only using 1 gpu. However, it's very buggy and crashes every 5 minutes and I had to render from the command prompt to get it to work at all.
@vincev4630
@vincev4630 5 жыл бұрын
render out cycles render image, then mimic the cycles render using eevee. I actually saved a VFX scene doing so. Also, makesure to add a slight bokeh blur for the final render to really blend the scene together. I thought I was doomed when cycles would take around a week to render just one scene, eevee is an absolute life saver and completely capable of being on par with cycles with a bit of elbow grease and trickery.
@albertjackinson
@albertjackinson 5 жыл бұрын
One scene took a week to render?! Holy cow!
@vincev4630
@vincev4630 5 жыл бұрын
@@albertjackinson - Well, I only have a single Titain X GPU. The more GPUs you have, the lesser the time it takes to render. You have to also consider the sample quality and the amount of detail that was put into the render. Most usually rent a renderfarm or buy a bucket full of of GPUs to get their renders out faster. Eevee is great for the mean time.
@imbroke6354
@imbroke6354 3 жыл бұрын
When i using eevee: my computer is screaming When I using cycle: my computer is blows up
@jamesp.sullivan1654
@jamesp.sullivan1654 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like if you fixed it up a bit, the eevee can be made really close to the cycles. Maybe if the shadows were stronger, like more ambient occlusion or contact shadows. Eevee can be a perfect a alternative if you just work around it. How about upping the contrast?
@pablolopez6721
@pablolopez6721 5 жыл бұрын
Can I work solely on eevee and then, if necesary, render on cycles? If so, how should I set up eevee workflow to aproximate the result to cycles so that it doesn't change drastically on render? Would that be a waste of time?
@FlippedNormals
@FlippedNormals 5 жыл бұрын
In that case I would advice sticking to cycles. There are differences in reflections and the way light behaves. Even though they're close, it's not exact
@pablolopez6721
@pablolopez6721 5 жыл бұрын
@@FlippedNormals Oh, thanks for the advice! and the fast reply, really appreciate it!!
@Stellarspace95
@Stellarspace95 2 жыл бұрын
So basically do the best you can with Eevee and flip a coin, cross your fingers and hope Cycles will gift you something spectacular
@nlbadguy
@nlbadguy 5 жыл бұрын
I just love your videos. Explained simple and enough intriguing for beginners like myself to explore more. Thank you! :)
@Ash_18037
@Ash_18037 2 жыл бұрын
Also in this series of videos: Oven Vs Microwave - Which is best? ;)
@kira_15_R3D
@kira_15_R3D 4 жыл бұрын
ok cycles is slower and it takes some time, but I would love to know what are the specs your PC has, so that I have a reference for the time it would take on other systems like my potent but modest PC or the battleships at the Studio I work in.
@mrburakgok
@mrburakgok 5 жыл бұрын
Eevee ligth's exponent value is not right.That s why there is big red light on light saber on eevee render. Comparison is not right.
@RuthwikRao
@RuthwikRao 5 жыл бұрын
that just looks like the infamous bloom is set too high, FN was probably in a Michael Bay/JJ Abrams mood when they made this video XD
@cbdesign2657
@cbdesign2657 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome discussion. I need to start rendering in cycles but evee render times are just so nice
@thiogarces
@thiogarces 5 жыл бұрын
Well my men you have to play a little bit more with the settings in evee render as you mentioned before is not 100% path tracing but I can tell you that it works properly with reflection in the other way try to check your GPU with cycles you had it in Gray color the difference when you turn it on will be 10 times more faster.
@GaryParris
@GaryParris 5 жыл бұрын
agreed, i do often feel like they are too quick to point stuff out without taking more time to research others who are showing things that can be done, but i understand why they are and that its still very new for them, but it does sometimes make the videos a little miss informing in some minor ways, but their focus is mainly Pro audiences and crossovers, so i dont like to be too harsh, they are advocating for blender at least instead of outright ignoring it! takes time!
@FlippedNormals
@FlippedNormals 5 жыл бұрын
We want to try our best to bring Blender to a larger community, there are sometimes things we'll have to skip over or don't find to be as relevant as other aspects. Appreciate the feedback, and we'll definitely keep improving as we move along with Blender :)
@presidualist4587
@presidualist4587 10 ай бұрын
So if i had a not so good laptop could i just render in eevee and use an editing software to add realistic texture like shading and exc?
@aegisgfx
@aegisgfx 5 жыл бұрын
You know what Id like? I'd like the ability to set a render engine separately from the viewport renderer. I want to select eevee for viewport, but when I hit render I want that to be in another renderer automatically (usually cycles) without having to switch it. Blender should give me 2 buttons, one to select viewport engine, and one for render engine, then Id have the option to set them both to the same if I want, or to different ones. Honestly Im literally never going to render something in eevee, for me its a great tool for fast visualisation and for shaders, but when I want to see a final products its nearly always going to be cycles I'll use.
@Unknown-oc1kt
@Unknown-oc1kt 5 жыл бұрын
just select cycles. Lookdev uses eevee by default. you can also tell lookdev to use world lights
@SalvatoSC
@SalvatoSC 5 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I am wrong, but lookdev uses a bit of a constrained version of eevee. You actually have tick a couple of features such as scene lights to get the full eevee experience
@armandsfreibergs4069
@armandsfreibergs4069 5 жыл бұрын
@@SalvatoSC you have to enable scene lights for look dev and you got it
@awesomeiram
@awesomeiram 3 жыл бұрын
For Animation (WINDOWS 10 USER) I Use Cycles And HIGHLY Recommend It.
@dachi4657
@dachi4657 5 жыл бұрын
More sculpting in blender videos please.
@22scorpman
@22scorpman 5 жыл бұрын
Have you completely switched from maya to blender?
@pstuddy
@pstuddy 5 жыл бұрын
blender is da foocha my friend
@bakedbeings
@bakedbeings 5 жыл бұрын
Blender has had a lot of trouble exporting to major engines (partly to do with fbx support). Late last year that was still the case, don’t know how it is now.
@22scorpman
@22scorpman 5 жыл бұрын
I am a fan of Maya and that's why I subscribe to the channel. And I'm just wondering why Flippednormals switched to Blender. Maybe just because of more viewing on KZbin))
@7_of_1
@7_of_1 5 жыл бұрын
ToonTank me also, if they have switched then at least have the decency to tell people so they don't have their Feds littered by videos they don't want.
@HAWXLEADER
@HAWXLEADER 5 жыл бұрын
@@bakedbeings actually using blender and unity is just so seamless. I do level design on blender, i save, it updates on unity. I just wish shaders would transfer
@thexrman
@thexrman 3 жыл бұрын
I have a large exterior environment with HRDI for lighting. My Eevee renders in a few seconds and looks half decent, however, when I switch to Cycles I only render a black screen. Any idea why?
@super117knight
@super117knight 5 жыл бұрын
coming from maya i love the cycles renderer, specially the denoise filter in it
@kneel.downnn
@kneel.downnn 5 жыл бұрын
Please review opensource luxcore renderer for 2.8
@Wampert
@Wampert 5 жыл бұрын
looking forward to the 2.81 supercharged blender video!!!
@TaylorStine
@TaylorStine 4 жыл бұрын
How is it possible that every time I have a question on blender/zbrush you have a video with literally the same title as my question?
@jazzlehazzle
@jazzlehazzle 3 жыл бұрын
How can you use EEVEE for lookdev when shaders look COMPLETELY different in Cycles??
@artmosphereID
@artmosphereID 4 жыл бұрын
if i make a 1 minute animation, i go eevee, but if just an image i go cycles
@muhammadbilalmemon271
@muhammadbilalmemon271 4 жыл бұрын
depth, details and quality of cycles is the best but timing is a huge scoring point of EEVEE.
@user-np5es9hc8p
@user-np5es9hc8p 5 жыл бұрын
I currently use the demo version of Redshift for look dev, then switch shaders and lighting over to Vray...works well
@keithprice1950
@keithprice1950 2 жыл бұрын
The difference is that Cycles makes my GPU melt and Eevee just makes it sweat.
@GaryParris
@GaryParris 5 жыл бұрын
Rtx is not realtime raytracing its also using trickery, but as you say they all have their specific uses and ways to use them. also RTX is still prohibitive price wise but well done on this video, It would be a shame for the industry to pass off opportunities to use EEVEE and blender in their work flow in my opinion, but those people and studios have to make the changes they didnt see before. Even if the mainstream doesnt take that opportunity so many will and that is a win for blender regardless of who uses it!
@RuthwikRao
@RuthwikRao 5 жыл бұрын
Yep. RTX is essentially just Hybrid Rendering (Raster+Raytracing) which invests much of the weight into Denoising. This kind of solution, although not entirely the same is kind of already available for Blender as part of Radeon Prorender from AMD where they call it Full Spectrum Rendering
@skilllanoodle
@skilllanoodle 5 жыл бұрын
Hey I really didnt know where to go to ask this, I figured here might be a good place. been using Blender for five years but just switched to PC, I'm stuck rotating around the cursor, tried clicking every button, reinstalling, and everything else I could think of. I'm absolutely stuck unable to access any other buttons and shortcuts. It's like I'm stuck in a rotating view mode and cant get out no matter what. I really need to crank out a big render asap so any help would be greatly appreciated!
@skilllanoodle
@skilllanoodle 5 жыл бұрын
NVM my bad, just opened up in video editing so I wasn't in viewport and realized somehow I messed up and set rotating to just using the mouse. Sorry about that but if anybody has the same problem they can refer here ig.
@JakobScheidt
@JakobScheidt 5 жыл бұрын
Are you going to do a presentation at the Blender Conference?
@wojt3d415
@wojt3d415 4 жыл бұрын
both are the best but for other things! good vid! :)
@arianullah6257
@arianullah6257 5 жыл бұрын
I was wondering, is Cycles fast enough to be used in industry?
@erik....
@erik.... 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. And the money you save from a 3ds max or whatever subscription can be used to make it even faster.
@FlippedNormals
@FlippedNormals 5 жыл бұрын
Yes and now, for now it seems like it's not handling larger scenes that well. If you compare it to something like Arnold for example. Arnold was made in a production environment, so it can be a bit tricky to compare. Cycles is getting there for sure!
@RuthwikRao
@RuthwikRao 5 жыл бұрын
something like E-cycles is significantly faster than normal Cycles that Blender comes with, so as someone else mentioned in the replies, saving the money on more expensive graphic cards and other pricey renderers, you can speed up the already decent rendering speed in Cycles by investing in solutions like these. And the creator of E-Cycles has said that some of his patches will be submitted to the main Blender team in 2020 to integrate into main Blender branch (or trunk in this case) which shall essentially make Cycles faster for everyone! More so, when RTX cards become a lot cheaper in the future, users can shift from CUDA to Optix and get even faster results, it's already being demonstrated.
@durenhesten4820
@durenhesten4820 3 жыл бұрын
2019: People getting surprised by Ray traced Minecraft 2021: How I destroyed my PC with Minecraft RTX
@micemincer
@micemincer 5 жыл бұрын
it's like comapring oranges and tomatoes - which one is best?
@DUAJISIN
@DUAJISIN 5 жыл бұрын
The fastest is the best.
@mrslow4826
@mrslow4826 4 жыл бұрын
So rendering stylized project with eevee is fine?
@bukachell
@bukachell 4 жыл бұрын
I use eevee for most of the process then I use cycles to touch up lighting and render
@FlippedNormals
@FlippedNormals 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent way to go about it
@lazylegitplays6275
@lazylegitplays6275 3 жыл бұрын
Bro I have low end pc which I should evee or cycles
@pstuddy
@pstuddy 5 жыл бұрын
Bruh, I'm obsessed with eevee!!!😹👍
@Gio-mi3hd
@Gio-mi3hd 4 жыл бұрын
can someone explain to me, why on cycle the device option GPU font turn into grey color?
@abtuly
@abtuly 5 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to have an eevee engine on 2.79 ?
@justjake9047
@justjake9047 5 жыл бұрын
Abtuly M no
@saftschinken2353
@saftschinken2353 4 жыл бұрын
I really want to have the Cycles rendered image as Wallpaper.
@scottlee38
@scottlee38 5 жыл бұрын
I will be building a youtube channel after i finish coding an addon to address so many misconception about Blender.. Lol In a nutshell. Cycles is king. It has photorealistic features that people don't even know about yet. Very few engines can output the power of cycles with a small input.
@FlippedNormals
@FlippedNormals 5 жыл бұрын
Cycles is really fantastic! We're so impressed with it.
@scottlee38
@scottlee38 5 жыл бұрын
@@FlippedNormals Do you guys use photoshop with your pipeline? If not. Definitely give it a go. Cycles and Photoshop are like Bro and Sis
@leecaste
@leecaste 5 жыл бұрын
scott lee what photorealistic features are you talking about?
@scottlee38
@scottlee38 5 жыл бұрын
@@leecaste So the way cycles mix nodes work are like photoshop. I won't give too much away, but if you apply your texture maps to your shaders the same way you use "blend modes" in photoshop, you can get detail that syncs perfectly with any organic textures on your object!
@leecaste
@leecaste 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds interesting...does cycles render deepexr?
@archcast5550
@archcast5550 4 жыл бұрын
Optix denoiser?
@alexjay8867
@alexjay8867 3 жыл бұрын
4 words. Screen space global illumination
@klatchabobby
@klatchabobby 3 жыл бұрын
6 words. Looks like shit out of frame kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHXLY4acZdCZbZI
@comradejames7813
@comradejames7813 4 жыл бұрын
Wasn't Cars the first animated movie to be entirely ray traced?
@klatchabobby
@klatchabobby 3 жыл бұрын
Most likely.
@denizcarta6805
@denizcarta6805 3 жыл бұрын
eevee didnt even had a shadow catcher
@ogcontraband
@ogcontraband 4 жыл бұрын
I found almost the opposite result as you describe where eevee looked beautiful, way more like a pixar
@klatchabobby
@klatchabobby 3 жыл бұрын
Literally every Pixar movie since 2006 has been rendered with ray tracing like in Cycles.
@AIRpursuit
@AIRpursuit 5 жыл бұрын
I like eevee. There are issues with light leaks. When i did the light saber the red light is getting everywhere but it looks good in this case. But what's annoying is that the boarders gwts leaks as well.
@GaryParris
@GaryParris 5 жыл бұрын
watch Andrew Price's (blender GURU) and others who have talked about the light leak and show you how to resolve that and there are multiple ways out there to tweak EEVEE and cycles, dont assume until you go look for the solution, it could already be out there. i think this is where the difference comes with these video's it can miss things other blender people already are aware of and/or know how to tweak and change things.
@AIRpursuit
@AIRpursuit 5 жыл бұрын
@@GaryParris I did watch Blender Guru and I did not assume.......look at the comparison of the two images in this video. Look at the tip of the light saber, where the red light is. In cycles, the light is contained within the cylinder where as in eevee, the cylinder glows red. I modeled and rendered this myself with the right settings and the same result comes out. The glow works in this case as it adds some drama to it but this is the issue of eevee render.
@GaryParris
@GaryParris 5 жыл бұрын
@@AIRpursuit that's good you checked that out, not everyone does, I've seen a couple of videos including Andrews, there are definitely others finding ways, that's just a general tip for anyone coming to blender following videos on 2.80 re: my reference to assumption, apologies if it came across as I was singling you out. I can't remember the others I watched who addressed this issue. 🤔 I'll post it if see it again.
@Worstplayer
@Worstplayer 5 жыл бұрын
Eevee will get a new shadowing technique that eliminates most light leaks in 2.81.
@GaryParris
@GaryParris 5 жыл бұрын
@@Worstplayer i missed that small but important news :O)
@klohithkumar9378
@klohithkumar9378 4 жыл бұрын
Cycles is fast for bcz u have expensive hardware fkr bcz normally it take time to render preview and u say that it's also fast as eevee that's not fare
@Nightmare-iq9tb
@Nightmare-iq9tb 2 жыл бұрын
i wanna create that light saber but i can't buy the tutorial :(
@FlippedNormals
@FlippedNormals 2 жыл бұрын
The light saber course is free on YT :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKLZZHV6pLedjsU
@Nightmare-iq9tb
@Nightmare-iq9tb 2 жыл бұрын
@@FlippedNormals yeah , but this one without the laser and the design is sick as hell can't compare this masterpiece to that So sorry i thought it would be very easy and simple , but i actually do it it's very nice and i learned a lesson . don"t judge a tutorial bu it's thumbnail . lmao
@eriuz
@eriuz 5 жыл бұрын
add one more vs luxcore 2.2
@GaryParris
@GaryParris 5 жыл бұрын
yes im waiting for this to be fully stable and linux, i love the quality difference to cycles, but i love all of the renderers for different reasons.
@RuthwikRao
@RuthwikRao 5 жыл бұрын
@@GaryParris you mean Luxcore is better than Cycles quality wise?
@GaryParris
@GaryParris 5 жыл бұрын
@@RuthwikRao in some aspects definitely, especially with caustics. but i'll happily use cycles for most stuff and EEVEE for previs or low poly building. its all got their respective places.
@HAWXLEADER
@HAWXLEADER 5 жыл бұрын
@@RuthwikRao lighting is way more realistic
@HELIX1
@HELIX1 5 жыл бұрын
Wtf that are 2 Guys o.O xD
@henriklarsen8193
@henriklarsen8193 2 жыл бұрын
Why is EEVEE near real time in the viewport but takes 5 seconds to render??
@mussadiqzainal4142
@mussadiqzainal4142 5 жыл бұрын
It's Comparing To A Viper And Jet Engine Car :D
@ZachA-T
@ZachA-T 3 жыл бұрын
My laptop is making it pretty clear to me that it likes Eevee more...
@naoremedisonsingh6035
@naoremedisonsingh6035 3 жыл бұрын
the hair shader in blender are not working well in eevee
@SaschaUncia
@SaschaUncia 5 жыл бұрын
♥ Blender
@ahmedjameel9295
@ahmedjameel9295 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, guys, awesome video thank you for your tutorials please can you do video for HAIR plz thank you again :)
@davidmendoza4521
@davidmendoza4521 3 жыл бұрын
Just work with eevee and render with cycles
@toluwah
@toluwah 4 жыл бұрын
cycles isn't fast. your PC is
@satyanarayandebbarma2089
@satyanarayandebbarma2089 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, Cycle rendering came out with lots of noise in compare to eeveeeee may i no why!!!
@luna010
@luna010 4 жыл бұрын
increase sample count(will dramatically increase render times) and/or go to compositor and add a denoising node. for even better results turn on denoising data and plug the extra thing in.
@vorklan
@vorklan 4 жыл бұрын
Evee = Xbox One Cycles = PS4
@soupxasy4323
@soupxasy4323 4 жыл бұрын
cycles kill my laptop
@ilhamakbar5689
@ilhamakbar5689 4 жыл бұрын
U shouldn't render on laptop
@YourGoodLuck..
@YourGoodLuck.. 4 жыл бұрын
cycles doesn't have any challange
@delusional9646
@delusional9646 3 жыл бұрын
I've been clickbaited by the title XD
@jorge69696
@jorge69696 5 жыл бұрын
At the moment, eevee is terrible for transparency. If the focus of your scene is a glass window, forget about eevee.
@jakobleitner1966
@jakobleitner1966 5 жыл бұрын
jorge69696 will be fixed in 2.81 i think.
@pstuddy
@pstuddy 5 жыл бұрын
realistic looking glass is achievable in eevee if you're good with blender.
@smolcaleb
@smolcaleb 3 жыл бұрын
my computer cant handle cycles so i always use eevee
@DenerWitt
@DenerWitt 5 жыл бұрын
cycles = better but takes forever eevee = -pokemon- less better; doesnt take forever
@fkstudios469
@fkstudios469 4 жыл бұрын
Bullshiet. With that lightsaber it was not better becouse you didnt set the settings
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