EFAP #51 - Welcome back - I forgot what we were saying. Rag's's, what were we saying?

[@electricbayonet2]

I'm very pleased that "Quick! Play Ackbar's theme!" has made it into the EFAP meme archive.

[@scottski02]

I still want "Rags has had 3 beers" to become one

[@unpopularopinions7407]

same, that’s been my favorite meme since the day of recording

[@rollrcoastrbacon2725]

electricbayonet2 it took us all by the hand

[@punishedbearzerker5400]

An EFAP that's under 30 hours? #ShortManBad

[@MrSuperultramegaguy]

I feel ripped off.

[@zachgilbert3815]

Yeah, what the hell gives (in my subjective)????

[@someguy4405]

This comes up when you click that hashtag kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zniqd2OZgMdjl7c

[@Thromaz]

@Zach 😄 Not using the word opinion

[@zachgilbert3815]

@@Thromaz The word "opinion" was implied - Bilseph Andergins

[@dusky5535]

The massive mad lad actually renamed it, may The Don bless you Long Man. -Bigideas B. Baggins 2019AD

[@chazfu]

Jay is more meme than man at this point. 🦏🥛

[@Roescoe]

Hi MC knowledge is almost as good as mine. We need an MC nerd chat.

[@prkr07]

Milky and evil

[@amanibob1416]

"Gentlemen, we can rebuild him."

[@rollrcoastrbacon2725]

Tex Mechs now we just need his son to show him the light side of the Geode

[@gub4941]

Tex Mechs jay exci: efap manager, rhino milker, geode enthusiast.

[@asumjessen2013]

"EFAP is hated by most KZbin critics and reviewers because you've called them out for being lazy. They've been able to get by on lazy arguments and hiding behind subjectivity for ages. Now, you guys are going through every one of their video essays and showing how they've been lazy, and they hate you for it." - The subjective opinion of Bimbo Boggins

[@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster]

it's ironic

[@YahliAtzmon]

Of Bigideas baggins FTFY

[@bulbousbungleton8691]

Ah my close cousin bimbo boggins.

[@gub4941]

Party Almsivi perfect

[@rocklemillion8041]

Who actually said it

[@Retrohale288]

this efap is under 8 hours so I am suing for not telling me the secret of what makes good rat.

[@OutsideTheTargetDemographic]

What about the secret to Mario's jump? I'm still waiting with baited breath for that one.

[@Retrohale288]

I literally just rewatched that efap on saturday while I was at work and that's what got me to make this comment

[@Namons]

doesn't matter Browntable would have just had the answer taken down

[@Retrohale288]

yeah he would! he would say it's sexual harassment and then threaten to vaporize me by making sound effects while pointing his fist at me......... must be based off of some unknown superhero or something

[@Pdro-gw7lu]

The secret of what makes good rat is the same as what makes rat good. It’s subversively hidden inside the ludo-meta-sub-quasinarrative themes.

[@Amberstorm1999]

a reminder that fatmanfalling's RWBY volume 3 review is 2 and a half hours, so him doing the longman bad is just... odd, to say the least

[@wingdinggasterfyoutubeforthis]

Perhaps he was infected by the brood...

[@TOONYBOY]

What's really going to bake your noodle later is is it weird...or strange?

[@challengingyou212]

​@@TOONYBOYit's the opposite of even that's for sure

[@cryptonaut1435]

Rags and Jay: *Having an interesting theological discussion Me: *Starts listening intently MauLer: *Plays Akbar's theme Dammit MauLer

[@JehovahsThicness]

If one is omnipotent, that would necessarily mean the ability to defy logic and be contradictory.

[@flippedturtle4739]

And further I would add that Rag’s kinda make a potentially assumption that God or god or gods could not defy logic inherently as a facet of it/they/He existing.@@JehovahsThicness

[@insulttothehumanrace3807]

Thank you for braving the domain of the Toxic Brood, Celtic Phoenix! It was fun having you on!

[@ergoth154]

I'm still chugging my way through EFAP #50... I've just made it to the middle and... oh god... it doesn't end, the middle it just keeps going... *objectively shudders*

[@FemboyMisa]

There are no beginnings or endings. There is only the middle.

[@scottofcanes]

@@FemboyMisa That's just because you don't appreciate the themes, in my opinion.

[@FemboyMisa]

@@scottofcanes I have given the thematic importance of the meta-narrative due consideration and have deemed it to be in accordance with Alan's theory of the eternal middle.

[@emergenciest]

@@FemboyMisa Sounds like a work of massive importance.

[@FemboyMisa]

@@emergenciest Apex massive importance. It's mass is greater than Goliath's and has the Tywin Lannister seal of approval.

[@SouthpawLP]

I unwittingly uploaded a video that has received the regular EFAP treatment. Who da thunk it?

[@smurfsareoppressed9584]

And a great video at that.

[@Party_Almsivi]

You did us a great service, friend.

[@Doncergio]

A truly blessèd paw

[@rollrcoastrbacon2725]

Blessed Southpaw you’re going places!

[@DlaGraphical]

I expect all of the EFAP archives to have a quote of the day from now on haha

[@hardromeo436]

I will ship Rags stones using my loudest stamps

[@rollrcoastrbacon2725]

DogeWhistle I ship Rags with every EFAP guest in bishonen form

[@Party_Almsivi]

FatmanFalling kinda...forgot about his talk with MauLer...

[@thedapperegg689]

In this episode Jay finally defeats the Ragman, elevating himself into the higher echelongs of the intellectual gayming community.

[@unpopularopinions7407]

fool, jay by default loses every contest he enters on account of being jay

[@jebalitabb8228]

Unpopular Opinions I’d argue subjectively as manager Jay by default has the higher ground than a mere guest, Rag’s’s

[@occultnightingale1106]

@@jebalitabb8228 That means he's punching down, and therefore loses anyway

[@TheSlammurai]

I'm not sure if "echelongs" was a mistake, but I love it regardless.

[@lordkonzilla7890]

@@unpopularopinions7407 then how do you justify efap 85

[@Erebus_the_trustworthy]

Elevator music segments will forever be gold.

[@willconway6176]

MauLer, I am a published author of fantasy novels. I find your critiques very useful. That already proves Taxxon wrong.

[@daftpunkfan1209]

Got any tips for getting published?

[@reader111089]

I dont want to say you're -watching movies- writing stories wrong, but you're -watching movies- writing stories wrong. Lol.

[@willconway6176]

@@daftpunkfan1209 Honestly, the best advice I have is to keep going. I got impatient with trying to find an agent so I decided to use Amazon for my most recent novel. I'm really only doing it for myself anyway, so if I don't make any money off of it, it's no big deal.

[@willconway6176]

@@reader111089 I mean, as part of the toxic brood, that's what we do.

[@Adorni]

Will Conway Well that’s just like, your opinion, man.

[@C0RVIN]

Quick, play Ackbar’s theme!

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

That meme needs to blow up more. That sentence can be put in everywhere when things get heated and it will subvert expectations every time xD

[@ENIGMVTIK]

Play Ackbar's theme?!

[@scottski02]

"Who the fuck are you?" --scottski02 to The Nectarine Guy, 2019

[@Muck006]

Someone should go to the red carpet opening for Episode IX and play Ocean Man on a ghetto blaster when Rian Johnson and/or Jar Jar Abrams get there ... they (and everyone else) will have no clue what this is about ...

[@HerohammerStudios]

@@Muck006 that just sounds disruptive and annoying. Not really that funny

[@southwardfaun9008]

I want to watch a football game in a little bit, so I made sure to put my stormtrooper helmet on and stream minecraft first.

[@TMTVL]

"An EFAP that isn't twenty four hours is not an EFAP." -Greek Philosopher Βιγιδεας Βαγγινς

[@emergenciest]

ογκώδης

[@zachgilbert3815]

αλλά ούτως ή άλλως παιδιά

[@Neo2266.]

Wiggie Wangis? that;s actually a lovely name XD

[@rollrcoastrbacon2725]

Tim Van den Langenbergh This short! -BilBag

[@Party_Almsivi]

Phoenix seems like how I would be if I got brought on EFAP. Like a mortal brought to mount Olympus to settle an argument among the gods.

[@JayExci]

the gods, and also Jay

[@doughyjoey_8742]

@@JayExci I'd be massively giddy too methinks. Actually probably not massively, maybe I'd just be Big giddyus! 🐔☀️

[@Party_Almsivi]

Jay Exci One of them noticed me! GODS BE PRAISED

[@Party_Almsivi]

Jay Exci Thinking about it, you can still be one of the gods. Maybe Mercury or something.

[@HerohammerStudios]

This is unbelievably cringy

[@winkles2314]

I said this on the unlisted video as well, but it bears repeating. As an author, fairly well reviewed, your perspective on media has absolutely been helpful.

[@MFChickenFlipper]

Heh, "bears"

[@Eli-Green]

agreement

[@Adorni]

Iron Bear Milk Yes well, then Patrick Star Taxxon can just dismiss you as a bad author, so you don’t count. CHECKMATE, ATHEISTS!!

[@JarPanda]

I approve of repeating bears

[@massivetism]

I said in chat that Phoenix looks like Jack Saint and i want to apologise because he actually sounds like a very smart guy and doesn't deserve being compared to the biggest massive ever. Have him back on again

[@michaeldorsey9231]

His only real flaw is that he thinks My Hero Academia is a good show; other than that he’s pretty cool.

[@sammydray5919]

@@michaeldorsey9231 MHA while not a pioneer in writing does not deserve the hate a lot of people have for it. Seriously its a leagues better anime than most anime that are produced on a regular basis (cough Boruto cough) and gained popularity due to its fun characters and nice story. Seriously why all the hate??

[@michaeldorsey9231]

@@sammydray5919 Most of the characters are one-dimensional, the villains come off as incompetent if not non-threatening, the school setting leads to formulaic situations and fake tension, and several unforgivable moments of plot contrivance. I don't think it's a bad show, nowhere near the bottom hundred, it's just mediocre and basic.

[@CelticPhoenix]

I appreciate the apology on the appearance XD As for MHA, there's a reason I've compared it to RWBY; similar premises, similarly large casts, etc. They both demonstrate the best and worst of the genre and both demonstrate what passion can bring to a project that would otherwise be unremarkable (or in RWBY's case, horrifyingly bad). MHA still has passion and energy, and people who want a nice, simple story for a good time, it's a solid show to watch. A popcorn series, not a treatise on the human condition. It touches on heavy subject matters from time to time, but it doesn't dive into them too deeply. RWBY, meanwhile, doesn't know how to balance any of that out or how to make up for it's flaws. It takes itself too seriously during parts it should be having fun with itself, and makes jokes at the most inappropriate moments. It's cast is somehow less than one-dimensional on the whole. The passion that drove the project also died out slowly after the passing of Monty Oum (rest his soul). This leaves a show that had just as much potential and energy as MHA (maybe even more ability to dive into darker subject matter) but stumbles and falls. The two are an interesting dichotomy and it makes one REALLY appreciate MHA's more... relaxed? casual? storytelling.

[@michaeldorsey9231]

@@CelticPhoenix That's fair, MHA is miles better than RWBY. Bakugo still a terrible character, and I don't get how anyone could like him.

[@Gakusangi]

I loved CelticPhoenix's face that entire conversation. Holy shit, I got more and more pissed off listening to FatMan as he went on. He strikes me as a D-average guy, happy just to make a passing grade and not at all interested in trying to do/be anything better. I always ask these guys making the, "art is subjective" argument to go into an actual, college level art class, and just listen to the teacher tell you how dog shit your work is and try to argue with them how that's just their opinion.

[@Ragnarok222R]

Gakusangi I believe almost all of them have English degrees. At the very least I know Phoenix and Fatman do because they regularly lord them over the writers of pretty much the only show Fatman does anything for. It’s really fucking weird, over the last two years or so Fatman has just gone off a cliff negativity wise and it’s affected everything about his content. It went from being a tongue in cheek imitation of Mr. Plinkett to genuine anger and spite because the object of his attention wasn’t changing to suit him. I’d say he’s Rooster Teeth’s incel if his friend TheFloofArtist didn’t already hold the title in my mind. He’s focused on Rooster Teeth and its failings in his eyes so much it has twisted and broken something inside of him. Though, thinking about it I think part of his shift also started around the time Mauler became known. I’ve wondered for a while if his repeated spats with Mauler on Twitter were from jealousy and that’s sounding firmer now. He and Mauler do similar content, or at least did, and yet Mauler is so much bigger audience wise. Their superficial similarity in content styles makes everything he’s saying in this video even more enraging to me. It’s like he’s shitting on his own entire body of work without realizing it. I tried to watch this video before I saw they had an EFAP on it and couldn’t get through the first 90 seconds without stopping it to just try and wrap my head around what he was saying.

[@LSDOvideos]

@@Ragnarok222R Fatman really did fall off. His RWBY reviews were actually entertaining to watch. He clearly has talent for editing videos comedically. Yet he doesn't even do that now, even though that's what defined his channel.

[@LTDLetsPlays]

@@LSDOvideos watched his most recent rwby vid and yeah he really stopped doing it :/ he has fallen to the abyss

[@Le-cp9tr]

This is the hangover stream. 50 was the party where you wake up in an alleyway

[@JarPanda]

They took my kidneys. ):

[@TokyoPOPjunkie]

Every time Hello Greedo videos appear, the crew gets distracted. How hilarious would it be if he appeared as a guest and they kept forgetting he was even there to argue about ship designs or argue semantics about something. EDIT: Shoulda kept watching, Rags went and said this himself. Fuckin aye.

[@lieutenantnomad9198]

Only 7 hours?! Come on MauLer, what do you think we're paying you for?!

[@MrSuperultramegaguy]

Lazy ass hole.

[@grizzlymelon8376]

Title is a thing of beauty, if i could impregnate it i would.

[@artilyon]

Or uterus (s)

[@corruptangel6793]

Give me ten good men. ;)

[@doughyjoey_8742]

10 good men... Heh.... I get reference. I saw it and recognised it. I saw it and i clapped!

[@rollrcoastrbacon2725]

Grizzly Melon impregnate Jay

[@crashschwarzen4642]

The minecraft discussion was my favourite part

[@doughyjoey_8742]

The greedo supeechat. That was my favourite part. Art is rAt 🤖

[@koyjosh94]

This is my favorite part

[@Bilbosilius_Zwackelbaggins]

It was great, but pretty early on and not in the middle, so I don't really know how to feel about it

[@anthonyaguirre7143]

Almost caught up on all EFAPs, except ironically several from middle. I gotta say i like how normie-proof the memes are.

[@ZombieLicorice]

Qualitative: Tom is taller than Steve. Quantitative: Tom is 5 inches taller than Steve

[@winkles2314]

Subjective: Steve’s bigger in my opinion.

[@ZombieLicorice]

@@winkles2314 for sure, and you may not be subjectively wrong (subjectively incorrect is effectively lying i think). If I put my hand between my eyes and the moon my hand is subjectively bigger than the moon.

[@ConspiracyNuts]

Tom could need to duck under door-frames and still be objectively smaller than Steve who is pinned to the couch by his giant fat bubble.

[@onnixcarmichele3911]

Iron Bear Milk Objective: Steve is Steve.

[@owainglyndwrlastprinceofwa2486]

Jay Are that’s just your opinion

[@lorddolamite6141]

They'll roll your eyes over that blood pentagram comment, Mauler. It was quite a delightful image.

[@ergoth154]

"I don't want to debate MauLer because he's setting the terms for what's correct" ...and you're not fat boy? By claiming everything is subjective you are setting the terms for what is correct. The correct statement being "everything is subjective". You can tell when a person has never been challenge on their ideas because they seem to gravitate towards philosophies were they are always right. Which is what they think EFAP does, just as Just Write said "Ironic".

[@TheShadowOfHumanity]

I miss Wolf. His angry rants were always the best.

[@mikeoxlong1395]

@LeadFaun Will he,? HE seemed to have nuked his channel for good.

[@unpopularopinions7407]

Mike Oxlong Not his channel, but the plan is for him to still be on EFAP

[@mikeoxlong1395]

@@unpopularopinions7407 I'll take it. Too bad, though. He had good content.

[@Muck006]

He was also the initiator of the Ackbar meme ...

[@voicingdragoon7]

I have watched Fatmanfallings parodies on RWBY and it's funny how they actually point out objective flaws of the show, yet here he is saying there is no such thing as objectivity in media. The irony.

[@Ragnarok222R]

Yeah, he is so similar to Mauler in content and yet here he is now essentially throwing away everything he’s EVER said to spite Mauler. Because for some reason he has a feud with the guy and keeps sniping at him on Twitter and getting surprised when their shared audience gets the word to Mauler and he actually has to try and defend what he’s written.

[@UnkaD013]

Watching in 2024 after The Acolyte and coming up to this line by Jay: "Stone doesn't burn."

[@hue_jazz59]

😂😂😂😂 I thought of that immediately

[@christo-gj1qk]

Lol 34:22 he mentioned me on hellogreedo live Stream yes! Love you mauler. By the way I was the one who sent you the pic of the puppy goliath on Twitter.

[@Lukas-ix7ir]

My favourite Jamaican gays are back!

[@Bam_Bizzler]

I did a sextism. I Read this as my favorite jamaican gays are black.

[@rollrcoastrbacon2725]

Jamaican us all gay here!

[@gub4941]

DeathInCarn 8000 Jamaican me wanna shoot myself

[@johnneyface]

Jay is the king of meme creating

[@smurfsareoppressed9584]

He’s EFAP’s manager for a reason.

[@TrajGreekFire]

The Chat: "ask Celtic Pheonix about the most inconsistent character in ep. IX" (including me, because i have to report to Lafreakshow as I'm his informator/2nd in command in the lore) MauLer: I'll just look at the chattism later I guess MauLer in the future: I should have asked Celtic Pheonix.

[@TrajGreekFire]

kick jay

[@MauLerYT]

I'm trying to save the question for episode guests rather than all cameos, it kinda gets real flismy when we open it up to anyone/everyone.

[@Avarn388]

MauLer That’s fair. It establishes a nice tradition on EFAP and I can agree with that.

[@Scorn0027]

@MauLer thank you for the explanation.

[@callmemim3007]

if you interested in keeping the tally,he said Finn in this comment section

[@KingKamor2]

That'll be a yikes from me. I actually had a pretty positive opinion of Fatmanfalling, since I enjoyed his videos where he tears apart Bad Web Show RWBY. In those, he went scene-by-scene explaining why it was bad. He even drew little battlefield maps to objectively show character/terrain position between shots to help illustrate that nothing in that show made any fucking sense. Seeing him saying that objectively judging artistic worth of media is somehow antithetical to his own views is mind-boggling. CelticPhoenix still seems cool, though, so good for him.

[@dustyfilmsgaming1983]

I found this channel because Shad showed a clip of it when he was reviewing the fight scenes in Mulan. This is now one of my favorite channels. I will now share it to every human in the galaxy.

[@davidgallego1652]

5:36:11 “Everyone pull out your jingle jangs” - MauLer (2019)

[@thaynedye1292]

At 2:38:30, the question of whether "God" is possible is dependent on what you mean by "possible". Most people mean it in the epistemic sense, i.e. "I can imagine a scenario in which God exists given what I know". This is different from the factual sense, where you are asserting something is definite about reality. One is an idea, the other is a statement. Also, if omnipotence means one can do anything, that means one can defy logic. Ergo one can make a married bachelor. Define your terms, Rags's's's.

[@Adorni]

Thayne Dye that’s a good take. I’ve encountered the “can God make a boulder so heavy he can’t lift it,” and my take on it is usually either “he could, but why would he?” Or “he could, I would assume, but maybe he made it so that only he, specifically can’t lift it, but I could.” The concept of Omnipotence is such a tricky principle that I can see where it would cause issues, on both sides. But I don’t think the existence of the “rock paradox” is solid proof against the concept. I mean, if God exists, then surely he would exist outside of what we puny little things perceive as “reality,” so trying to imagine what his limits are would drive you crazy.

[@cryptonaut1435]

@@Adorni So THAT'S what's causing my headache!!

[@jonathanhili7104]

That's true. For some theological schools of Islam (and a few in Christianity), God can do things that are logically impossible. If that's the case, then the omnipotence paradox fades away as a problem. Can God create a stone He cannot lift? Yes, but He can lift it too. However, most theologians think God cannot do the logically impossible because such states cannot be instantiated by their very nature.

[@jodanger37]

If God can defy logic, why would he have created logic like that in the first place? His goal and his desires would shape the way he makes the world, so making rules that he necessarily has to break in order to do what he wants makes no sense. Additionally, the idea that Gods character is difficult to decipher I think actually gives credence to the idea he does exist, rather than vice versa. If God was almost or totally able to be cognitively grasped, then it would make more sense that he is a human creation rather than a real supreme being, and even so, what would inspire me to worship this “god” that isn’t even that complicated or unique? God having attributes that are hard to understand makes sense, cuz he’s GOD. We won’t be able to fully grasp the inner mechanisms of a supreme being far beyond our understanding. As long as there is no contradiction, the idea of divine complexity in no way disproves Gods existence.

[@amanibob1416]

"Winter's coming!" Bilbo-spider-Adam... Ps: Great to see Unbridled Rage(s) are still a-coming... *It's free real estate*

[@ToastGamingNCrew]

Bigtidius Bilspooderadam - 2019

[@Thaxannadrote]

Unbridled Rags'?

[@amanibob1416]

Thaxannadrote I second that motion, one point two-(wait for it) *BIIIIIILLLIIIOOONNN!!!*

[@johnellisbushbush]

Quick play ackbar’s theme! ocean man, take me by the hand

[@shaecouture7480]

@MauLer You can reverse the Super car/Regular car analogy on them anyway. A manufacturer has to make a single engine that will be used in a regular car and a supercar. The $ will come from the regular car market. Take a 1500 horsepower engine, and strap the same engine in a super car and a regular car. The engine won't work properly in the regular car (console). The tires spin out, it runs out of gas instantly, it wrecks the other components. So the manufacturer then makes an engine suitable for the regular car instead, and what extra time they have goes into letting the supercar use the engine more, though it will not compare to the 1st. Console developed games will target a minimum of a 30hz refresh to the entire game engine. If a mechanic is too taxing to maintain this, it will be cut. If the map is too large/complex, it will be shrunk down. The lowest common denominator (the base xbox one this generation) is the lowest denominator, and all multiplatform games are forced to target minimum 30hz on that hardware limitation. A great example of this is Shadow of Mordor. I don't even need PC to make this point. PS4 and Xbox One, the game has the full nemesis scripting. Where it tracks all the orcs, their interactions with you, eachother and the world. (PS4/XBOX ONE 30PFS) On the Xbox 360 and The PS3 the game runs at the same 30fps as the ps4/xbone, but the entire nemesis scripting that the game is built on is completely gutted to be able to maintain that 30HZ. Now pretend the Xbone/PS4 didnt exist at this time at it was PS3/360/PC only, the smaller market on the PC would cause the devs to ONLY make the version of the game with the GUTTED mechanics. You can use console - console generation arguments to make the same point and there are provable references of this being a problem. Ubisofts entire (DOWNGRADE) history is from showing early PC only demo builds then realizing they had to cut the game down to create their multiplatform version. Watch Dogs, Division, etc.

[@Muck006]

tl;dr #abolishConsoles

[@ZeroRaider]

The HelloGreedo Effect is truly a weapon of mass distraction.

[@amanibob1416]

Him doing a Bane impression: "You think vagueness is your ally? *breathing intensifying* I was born in it, molded by it."

[@someguy8428]

Watching 2 guys debate omnipotence and god while Ocean Man played in the background was one of the most confusing and amazing moments I’ve seen in a long while

[@jgamer2228]

Nearly 4 years later and Mauler’s game of thrones episode 6 video still hasn’t been made

[@magicianofd8434]

Okay so first off, a big salute to CelticPhoenix for being the first fan to be able to get on EFAP. Cause dude, you're living out the dreams most of us will never achieve. In other words, good on you man. Second off, we need to give Jay an even bigger salute for the chessboard question. That was high art, and I'm going to very sad if it doesn't join the ranks of the herpes water question in future streams. Anything questionable Jay has ever said has been immediately revoked henceforth, as it means nothing in the face of such verbal artistry.

[@thewickerman5121]

Magician of D Wasn’t James Moore the first fan to be on EFAP?

[@magicianofd8434]

@@thewickerman5121 Okay, I'll admit that I forgot about that, but Moore's appearance was more like a cameo than a full on guest appearance.

[@alexanderrichard8842]

@@magicianofd8434 What about Theo and Southpaw?

[@magicianofd8434]

​@@alexanderrichard8842 Ah shoot, I also forgot about Theo (though I didn't know about Southpaw). I do have this to say though, them watching & enjoying EFAP prior to coming on doesn't necessarily make them fans per se. As far as I can recall, they haven't acted in a manner that is normally indicative of a fan. So unless they've explicitly said they are in the past, I think I still have some ground to stand on here.

[@TheGamingAngel18]

Don’t forget ThatStarWarsGirl appearing on Efap 50, she was always a huge fan of Efap.

[@s.s.ofthetoxicbrood2869]

Did someone break Fatman's neck, and he just never got it fixed? Also I'm so glad I don't have permanent creep face.

[@samuel5591]

I suspect that whole look is just designed to be edgy but he went too far and landed on creepy instead.

[@pakornwattanavrangkul2550]

In SW BF1 original, there was an AT-ST that spawns for the empire in Mos Eisley if they captures the space port. You rarely see it since it is pretty hard to cap and usually the game ends before the vehicle spawns. There is also an AAT there when you play separatists, though the AI has no idea what to do with a vehicle on that map so it never leaves the rear exit of the space port.

[@assaultspoon4925]

I was spamming this in the chat. But no one saw me.

[@jeremylandry858]

I would love to respectfully debate Rag’s on theology.

[@bittern4464]

Thank god I have EFAP to keep me sane

[@NovaDysnomia]

You guys talking about Tonald toward the beginning reminded me of something I learned recently: I was playing Smash Ultimate with my friend, and we were looking through different characters movesets. Interestingly, one of Link's moves is called Downward Thrust. I'm sure some people are aware of this, but I wanted to make it known.

[@thoughtfulpug1333]

Rag's's's's's's's's's's's's's needs to do a full vocal cover of Ocean Man now

[@tuskinradar8688]

I adore Empire at War, and am a dedicated EFAPer, how on earth did I just now realize that the Tie MAULER looks like a SKULL ON WHEELS, my mind is obliterated right now

[@Epsilon191]

MauLer's wearing a wolf badge on his suit😄 Edit: also Finn isn't a contradiction. He just knows where the breaker room is because he cleaned it and he and Rose had the knowledge of how trackers worked. leading to their plan

[@assaultspoon4925]

@@drzaious8136 But who was raped? The teacher, or the apprentice?

[@Epsilon191]

@@assaultspoon4925 oh my

[@ashdam9561]

It's a contradiction cause 10 minutes before he says he know where it is he is shocked the first order have a tracker at all

[@Epsilon191]

@@ashdam9561 when did he say he knows where the tracker is? They find the power room and try to get rid of that

[@Party_Almsivi]

I would say “it’s not necessarily a contradiction”, because Rian’s tismy writing makes me think it could go either way.

[@davidwilson6577]

I would say that the majority of objective claims MauLer makes are binary e.g. a movie either fails to form a coherent thread in its narrative or it succeeds. I would argue that binary data are quantitative as their scale is consistent, there is a clearly defined boundary between one value and the next. Often they are viewed as qualitative because types of analysis used for quantitative data don't apply, and maybe there are examples of non-coherent binary scales but I can't think of any that aren't inherently flawed. Although come to think of it, analyses of whether a character is treated faithfully for example are surely qualitative, as the scale of character faithfulness is not discrete, continuous or binary.

[@autismisuncontrollable4925]

I can't believe you actually went through with Jay's stupid title, god I hate him, hi Jay.

[@Doncergio]

Hi AiU

[@WilliamRAguilar]

Mauler has endorsed my Mormon Church the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I am happy! Lol

[@Bam_Bizzler]

Rag's is one of those "it has to look nice" kinda guys in minecraft. Its about RESULTS not the PROCESS, gotta get those stonks

[@Rags]

@Victor Kurske Yea, we aren't barbarians here.

[@Her_Sisko]

@@Rags I use the 2 by 2 stair case to get to bedrock as efficiently as possible so I can strip mine, it's not for like your house imo. Underground as long as I can get in and out asap, idc.

[@Handsy_McGee]

The spiral staircase is not meant to be a freestanding object, hence how he messed it up and originally thought it didn't work. If you subtractively create it, digging it out of stone, it's pretty obvious.

[@johnnyfroggo7361]

@@Handsy_McGee It's also useful for mining the tall jungle trees.

[@creeperboom8635]

What a Jamaican title

[@Necrow_Productions]

Years later, and I still have never forgotten this episode where Rags only had bad Minecraft takes

[@CupCakeUnleashed]

People always say GRRM is the new Tolkein. He's not. He really is an anti-Tolkein. Brandon sanderson is the new Robert Jordan who is the new tolkein.

[@dragonknightleader1]

And I would say Luo Guanzhong is better at being anti-Tolkein because he finished his book. Will GRRM finish his story? Who knows?

[@SantosAl]

@@dragonknightleader1 that's what makes him the anti Tolkien, he doesn't finish his work :P

[@YourLastSandman]

2010, the Minecraft world expanded from a 1024x1024 flat world to a procedurally generated world, zombies were added, then the slew of other mobs. In highschool, I had a class learning Java script and made a dog mod before the wolf mob was added to the game. Ladders were in as the world went procedurally generated. It was a pain to make the dogs path on ladders, so staircases were still used for the dog mod. Love your content 🐕 (rag'ss)

[@crimsonpotemkin]

I know this sounds harsh or "like an attack" on certain people, but I'm starting to think that the people that hate Mauler so much (and can't grasp the concept of an objective opinion) are just very bad at abstract thinking or something like that. It doesn't seem that difficult to understand for people who enjoy this content, but maybe it's too difficult for the "detractors" (idk what else to call them tbh). It's kinda weird, but it doesn't seem like they put much thought into any of it and instead just stay content with their surface level conclusions and resort to sniping on twitter (often in their safe space behind the block button wall).

[@gueton5200]

It could be interesting if anyone in the EFAP crew could make a video just explaining that sort of stuff so people who aren't very knowledgeable can learn about it, could make discussion a whole lot easier

[@MuraCasardis]

@@gueton5200 Mauler already made a separate video that cuts and isolate exactly that explanation from his TFA Critique part 1. It has examples, references and counters.

[@gueton5200]

@@MuraCasardis forget about it i'am just stupid

[@Dunmerdog]

Unironically this. The people who detract from MauLer's work just seem to have an extremely limited grasp of the concept of objectivity. They've cognitively intertwined objective quality with objective value. JW is the best example I have, where he says that the quality of art is relative to its themes and how it delivers them, rather than how it actually delivers its story

[@guy3480]

Rags DESTROYED with facts and logic! Except unironically and Rags tried to not act mad but he was. Kinda cute tbh

[@baconcatbug]

All EFAP need a pithy quote in the title now

[@Kernwadi]

I love the title of this episode.

[@thoughtfulpug1333]

3:41:11 - 4:11:38 Best guest to ever show up on EFAP. Please make mai boi Raymond a regular.

[@Necrow_Productions]

He was only on for a half hour and made quite the impression, we really should get him back on

[@tickleson8661]

I miss kitty0706, his Gmods were so full of energy and had great timing. He'd be best known for his magnum opus "Team Fabulous 2" - Godspeed, you magnificent Massive -_-7

[@yagamifire7861]

The more massive retreat? Fatmanfalling from Mauler? Or Fatmanfalling's hairline from his forehead?

[@barbatoslupusrex8712]

Rags is a beautiful massive

[@ABonafideSkeleton]

*Rag's's's's's's's's's's's's's's's's's's's's

[@lordofthepizzapie9319]

He's a bbd.

[@carmandirda]

A lot of art communities online are subjective based, and as someone who went to art school (I know, play the violins of regret lol) it frustrates me to no end. Hell, even before I went to college for it I was very into the science behind it for lack of better words and improving. You try to give people a helpful critique, no matter how polite, and you will be ganged up on by people defending them and their bad art.

[@L337N1NJ4L1NK]

I swear I need to check more than half the time that I didn't accidentally start the video half way into it. Rag's just has this uncanny ability to make me question my sanity.

[@davidgallego1652]

2:23:33 origin of the “chessboard question”

[@MassiveiusBiggus]

"Kommentare sind subjektiv." -Bilbo Baggins

[@Kernwadi]

Yes.

[@OutsideTheTargetDemographic]

Rag's has keyboard to in his mouth. Like. 👍

[@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09]

That explains the quality of this scripts

[@OutsideTheTargetDemographic]

@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 Clearly, he's very precise with his tongue. 😏

[@MassiveiusBiggus]

Alles ist subjektiv... Bis es nicht mehr so ist.

[@jodanger37]

6:51:27 Unironically my name is John and I’m listening to this at work lol

[@Cloud_Seeker]

I really hate how they debated the "can God create something so big he can't lift it" argument. You do not solve the problem by saying you can only do what is logically possible. That means God can't stray outside of his own limitations but still get to be called All-Powerful. If this is the definition we go with then humans are All-Powerful as well as we can only do things within our own limitations. We can do everything we can do, therefore we are omnipotent. It makes no sense. It means there are limits to how big God can create something and how big things can be before he can't lift it.

[@jonathanhili7104]

I think the real point is that God can't do what is logically impossible because such a state can't be instantiated by its very nature. It has nothing to do with how powerful someone is. Placing contradictory concepts next to each other in a sentence doesn't suddenly make them meaningful. God, for instance, can no more make a stone He cannot lift, than make dimensionless space, a square triangle or a married bachelor.

[@Cloud_Seeker]

@@jonathanhili7104 "than make dimensionless space" - That isn't actually a problem. God created earth and the universe without form and it was void. However an ocean did exist in this formless and empty void of a earth. In a way, god did create a dimensionless space. The problem with that is that a married bachelor is not a adequate example. The married bachelor is a problem that comes from definition, it is a singular problem. This problem is a twofold problem. The claim is that god can create anything, but he can also do anything. What is claimed is that god hold a spear that can pierce any shield, and have a shield that nothing can pierce. The contradiction does not lie in a single part of the claim (like the married bachelor), but in the combination of two claims. To make the married bachelor a adequate example to compare with you are required to make the claim you can be both married and a bachelor at the same time. But back to the problem. So god claims to have a spear that can pierce any shield, and a shield that nothing can pierce. Which of them is true as both can not be true at the same time? God claims he can create anything, but he also create he have no limits to what he can do. One of them or both must be wrong. This is a contradiction and not a logically impossibility. It is only logically impossibility if you assume both are true in some way. If anyone tried to sell you the spear and shield you will recognize the problem right away and see that I am just bluffing. But when I talk about god you believe me to some extent without questioning. This is a problem that comes from the fact Judaism used to be a polytheistic religion and not monotheistic. They went from a pantheon of several gods with several roles to play in the universe to a single god that had to do everything. This problem does not show up with Shiva. He can create anything even if he can't lift it. Shiva isn't all powerful. The god of abrahamic religions have to fulfill ever role every other god had in order to make him the only god in the religion. Saying he can do anything and create anything is a simple solution, but it creates massive problems. This problem is perfectly logical if you treat god as fiction and not real while looking at its evolution. The problem is not logical if you treat god as real and these as his abilities. However there is another thing. Can god kill himself? If god can't then I can do something he can't.

[@jonathanhili9926]

@@Cloud_Seeker Hi Cloud Seeker, thanks for the thoughts. I'm not sure that an ocean existing in a formless earth is a "dimensionless space". Dimension implies something has length, width, and depth, and space by its nature is extended. Dimensionless space would be equivalent to "something that is extended but has no length, width, and depth", which seems to be contradictory. As for the married bachelor, I see what you're getting at, but it's the same idea really. "Married = not being a bachelor" + "Bachelor = unmarried", so to combine the two into one is a self-contradiction. Likewise, "omnipotent implies lift anything" + "A stone that can't be lifted means it can't be lifted" and so you are putting together two contradictory terms. It's the same with the shield and spear example. They can't both be true at the same time since they contradict each other. As for God, He is limited by what is logically possible. Very few theologians think that God's omnipotence means He can do anything, only that He can do anything that is logically possible. Augustine, Aquinas and countless others have addressed this issue many times. Whether the idea of a monotheistic God comes from a once-polytheistic religion is irrelevant to the conceptual understanding of what God would be like. Even in Hinduism, Shiva or Brahma or Vishnu are not ultimate reality but only manifestations of Brahman. However, Hindus also believe that Brahman is beyond logic (much in the same way as some Islamic theologians believe Allah is beyond logic). Again, you assert: "Saying he [God] can do anything and create anything is a simple solution, but it creates massive problems." However, very few people actually claim this. "Can god kill himself? If god can't then I can do something he can't." Since God is a necessary being, has aseity and is immortal by nature, He can't kill Himself because that would be to negate a perfection. Negating a perfection or a good isn't a positive act. See, for instance, Aquinas in Summa Theologica, Book I, Question 25, Article 3, where he deals with this question and whether God can sin too.

[@Cloud_Seeker]

@@jonathanhili9926 "I'm not sure that an ocean existing in a formless earth is a "dimensionless space". ...." - Well. Explain how an ocean can be without form and void. A ocean has a form and it is by definition not void (completely empty). What god had created was something that was void, but wasn't void. I think this just draw inspiration from the Egyptian creation myth. The water is clearly the water of Nu. The water that existed before creation. "As for the married bachelor, I see what you're getting at, but it's the same idea really. ...." - It really isn't. The problem that comes from omnipotence is two questions that are asked separately. How did god create the mountain? He is omnipotent. Hod did god make the flowers grow? God is omnipotent. How did god create the universe? He is omnipotent. Is there something god can't do? No, god is the most powerful being and is omnipotent. Can god lift that mountain. Yes, god is omnipotent. Can god create a rock? Yes god can, he is omnipotent. Can god create a rock so big he can't lift it? A married bachelor is a semantic wordplay not intended to be serious, while the ability to be omnipotent is taken seriously. Yes. Creating a stone that you can't lift while being able to do everything is a contradiction. Just like with the spear and the shield. This is why in Asia this spear and shield story have literally their origin for the word contradiction. When you face a contradiction one claim or both have to give, but when it comes to god no such thing is allowed to happen. "As for God, He is limited by what is logically possible. ...." - This is nonsense. If god is limited what is logically possible then I can claim I am omnipotent. It isn't logically possible for me to fly, so I am omnipotent because I can only do what I can do. The very fact god is claimed to work outside of space and time while operating inside of it is logically impossible so this is just a case of special pleading. If you get to the logical endpoint of this reason will end it will end with that god is omnipotent while not being able to do everything. Which is literally not what omnipotence is. If god can be omnipotent while not being able to do everything I am omnipotent as well. Either god can create anything and can't physically lift what he have created. Or he can only create things large enough so he can lift it. *I also wants to point out that you have not provided any proof this is ever claimed. Where is the proof that god is claimed to only be able to do what is logically possible? I do not find creating something from nothing logically possible.* "Again, you assert: "Saying he [God] can do anything and create anything is a simple solution, but it creates massive problems." However, very few people actually claim this." - Then how exactly did god create the universe? It is actually you that are wrong because it is standard doctrine to teach that god can do anything. ""Can god kill himself? If god can't then I can do something he can't." Since God is a necessary being, has aseity and is immortal by nature, He can't kill Himself because that would be to negate a perfection." - This is nothing but nonsense. I do not care about his "perfection". Saying this is literally saying something like "there is nothing god can't do because it will negate his perfection". I believe this reasoning is the reason it is standard doctrine that god is omnipotent. But then it is clear. God is not omnipotent because he can't do everything. The claim God is omnipotent is false. That is the whole thing the "can a god create a rock he can't lift" is trying to point out. It means god does not have the omnipotent trait.

[@Kernwadi]

"Comments are subjective." -Bilbo Baggins

[@smashproductions59]

I liked Fatman Falling so it's really sad that he said that shit

[@triela7502]

He had some pretty good RWBY reviews, I'm pretty sure he gave up though. It was a shame cause RWBY kinda REALLY NEEDS more large critiques because the show itself has gone really downhill.

[@thoughtfulpug1333]

@@triela7502 He's still working on part 2 of his Volume 5 review. So, still content coming out in that regard. No idea what the fuck he plans on doing after that though. He put himself into the niche RWBY community for so long, it looks like its harming his ability to have sound opinions on outside media (see his Deathflix review). He made fun of Cosmonaut's take on Deathflix, because Cosmonaut is the easiest target one can go for. But I feel he's gonna end up just like him. An absolute lolcow

[@dusky5535]

Luke Freet Oh don’t worry, he plans on making a takedown of Mauler. Because that has always gone well.

[@thoughtfulpug1333]

@@dusky5535 He told me about it himself. I am betting money it will kill his channel

[@ProxyDoug]

Argh, all I wanted was RWBY reviews and the Abridged series. I guess RWBY has gotten so bad lately, there is not even a point in criticizing it anymore.

[@TheHawkeyeful]

Omnipotence isn't the ability to do anything, it's an amount of power. You can't make a contradiction a reality no matter how much power you use.

[@Thereal78lo]

"Are you a Trans Right Nazi" Gold.

[@reddragon2150]

Taking a dump at work and nearly lost my self to hysterical laughter to Ocean Man!

[@ProxyDoug]

I agree with the fact that working with the PC is easier due to it not having as many limitations, but on consoles, you can be sure that your product will always run properly for every single user.

[@LunaProtege]

You know, I think the debate an hour in about Ladders vs stairs is forgetting the all important fact that you should NEVER DIG STRAIGHT DOWN! To make ladders work for digging downwards, you have to dig straight down, with stairs, you're digging slightly forwards

[@samuel5591]

Everyone knows you dig 2 vertical shafts next to each other - one to stand on while you dig and place the ladder on the other. That's just rookie shit.

[@yivo648]

Strange is like "huh that's out for character" like but weird is confirmed to be strange? If Mauler heard somebody else say that he would rip into it.

[@undeadspycrab4157]

sitting here listening to them talking about how tie's work and non of them know the wings are solar panels, fake nerds

[@thewickerman5121]

Top 3 EFAP viewers: 3. The Meme Repository 2. Zach Gilbert 1. James Moore 0. R A Edit: Anyone Who’s not on here probably doesn’t exist to begin with.

[@stigmaoftherose]

I put down agreements.

[@MFChickenFlipper]

But subjectivily I'm in the top 10

[@jimsaintruth4248]

The only reason I remember oof oof is that he was one of the guys who knows the truth about the orphan problem

[@lieutenantnomad9198]

Where am I?!

[@JarPanda]

Belief IS a choice... You can choose not to believe.

[@0Fingolfin0]

I died when Mauler started playing ocean man

[@michaeldorsey9231]

When I get back down to Key West for a vacation, I’m going to go to the beach, lie back and relax, and blast this song on my phone.

[@0Fingolfin0]

@@michaeldorsey9231 I have been listening to it almost daily since it became an EFAP meme. It is highly addictive

[@zodem3766]

In my subjectively obejectivley guesswork opinion. I jugde Longman is a goodman with plenty of middle

[@BrennanCh06]

"Deeper" meaning is only conveyed by the mechanics of the medium an artist uses. All analysis has to start from the execution and logical before you can assign anything greater to it. Really great art often has the mechanics down so well you dont notice them immediately, just the deeper meaning. But thats rare.

[@jonathanhili7104]

The discussion around the 2 hour 40 minute mark regarding omnipotence was interesting but I wish Jay had commented more as he was on the right track, it seemed. The "omnipotence paradox" (God creating a stone He can't lift) is something one deals with in junior high school and doesn't get any street cred in academia. The reason for this is that most theologians have always agreed that God can't do the logically impossible. One good example here is Thomas Aquinas, who wrote (ST, Book I, Q. 25, Art. 3): "If... we consider the matter aright, since power is said in reference to possible things, this phrase, 'God can do all things,' is rightly understood to mean that God can do all things that are possible; and for this reason He is said to be omnipotent." The omnipotence paradox is usually formulated in a way that is logically contradictory. For instance, "Can God create a stone He cannot lift". What this means is: "Can X (where X = a being that can lift anything) create a Y (where Y = a stone He cannot lift)." Since we have just defined God as X, then the number of items in class Y is zero. So, we are really asking: "Can God create a nothing?", which is obviously contradictory and logically impossible. The challenge, then, ceases to be meaningful.

[@gameboyterrorysta6307]

VR is incredibly useful in simracing, where it really shines. This is where immersion it gives meets realism in games like Assetto Corsa, it blends borders between vidyagamez and reality. And there are peole IRL driving rally cars without their 'real' legs or arms. There is even a mad lad who drives rally car only with his legs. Being disabled isn't reason to ignore VR at all.

[@whitehorsedown6499]

Jay is a Meme God. Son of Alex Jones?

[@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09]

Jay Jones sounds like a movie character from a buddy cop movie.

[@souvikmitra6161]

@warystatue33 Bilbo baggins disapproved

[@assaultspoon4925]

Alex Jones and rookie cop, Jay Jones, investigate a city full of Interdimensional Rhino Milk Smugglers. Jay then meets the love of his life, Rags, who distracts him from the duties of his job, and Alex is captured by the globalists because of it. Feeling guilt for abandoning his partner, Jay goes full Dirty Harry, stops playing by the rules, and tosses his badge into a river. Eventually he finds Alex in Roman Polanski's satanic basement, and the two, now reunited against evil, put Epstein away once and for all. The only reason this will never be put to film is Hollywood's hatred of money

[@commander392]

So thats why Maulers eyes are red, they're a biproduct of his deal with satan